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Speaker 1: I painted myself gold for the interview because I am

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Speaker 1: the gold standard.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to No Donk Skier on the Athletic Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: It's Monday, June twenty third. We just had an incredible

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Speaker 2: seven game series. Can't wait to get into it. I'm

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Speaker 2: tas Mellus with me. It's the man in the middle,

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Speaker 2: Trey Curvey, Hey ay, and the man making the magic happen.

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Speaker 3: As always, it's JD. Hello, what's up JD?

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Speaker 2: No Skeets today he received some unfortunate tragic news yesterday

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Speaker 2: that his father passed away. So send your love to Skeets.

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Speaker 2: We're also sending our love obviously. We will see him

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Speaker 2: very very soon.

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Speaker 3: Love you man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, moving on, moving on to something far, far, far

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Speaker 2: less important. The thunder fans may have their own championship shirts,

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Speaker 2: but we got our own that nobody else has. You know,

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Speaker 2: the back to the pawnshop, no coins for you saying

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Speaker 2: that Nora Skeet's wife came up with.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's on the shirt. Yeah, I know what a sec.

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Speaker 2: It's on sale for now, but for only forty eight

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Speaker 2: hours after the championship. Go to no dunks dot com

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Speaker 2: and it's in that and one type of flavor.

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Speaker 1: Yep, plane faced guy. You know, of course everybody remembers

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Speaker 1: that Brad Miller has a tattoo of the and One

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Speaker 1: faceless basketball player on his arm. So yeah, you got today,

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Speaker 1: you got tomorrow to hit up No Dunks dot com

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Speaker 1: and pick up what I guess we'll call the Nora

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Speaker 1: trash Talk T shirt. I don't know what the name

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Speaker 1: is officially on Breaking Tea, but this would be amazing

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Speaker 1: to have. And this would also be amazing to be

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Speaker 1: flipping through racks at a thrift store and come across

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Speaker 1: this thinking it's a real and one shirt. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're like back to the pawnshop. No coins for you.

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Speaker 1: But if you've seen the show, you know what it means.

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Speaker 1: And if you've seen some of the pregame intros, I

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Speaker 1: guess you know what it means. I mean, so people

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Speaker 1: were asking in the stream, team, are we doing a

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Speaker 1: Thunder inspired championship shirt? This is it? But you you

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Speaker 1: made it seem like you know what it means. I'd

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Speaker 1: still I don't know, didn't Skeet say something like in

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Speaker 1: it must have been the Game six intro. They just

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Speaker 1: it just looked like there was coins floating.

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Speaker 3: Down it did kind of.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how the pawn shop necessarily factors it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of had a streamer look anyways. Also,

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Speaker 2: if you didn't hear our show for it, we did

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Speaker 2: one yesterday on Kevin Durant being dealt to the Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 2: It was an incredible, incredible text that I got. Whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Durant got dealt. Now, I was out in the

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Speaker 2: rural areas here of Georgia enjoying some waterfall. So you

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Speaker 2: guys did it breaking down Kevin Durant being dealt to

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Speaker 2: the Rockets.

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Speaker 3: So go check that out.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we will talk about it on tomorrow's show

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Speaker 2: as well, because it's Kevin der But onto the series.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the Thunder taking care of business in

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Speaker 2: seven games, Tray, I don't know where you want to

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Speaker 2: start with game seven, if you want to go to

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Speaker 2: the injury or not, if you don't want to talk

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Speaker 2: about Tyres because I see some media services putting that

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Speaker 2: up as their first headline. Well, you know, the Thunder

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Speaker 2: did win a championship they had, Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 2: know where you want to start.

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Speaker 1: Look, the Halliburton injury is huge Obviously we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about it, but this was still a

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Speaker 1: memorable game. Seven.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, one of the first memories you'll have is Tyrese

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Speaker 1: Haliburton going down in the first quarter. But let's talk

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Speaker 1: Indiana's resolve after Halliburton went down. They ended up outscoring

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Speaker 1: first quarter. But the championship to me for the Thunder

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Speaker 1: was really one in that third quarter. Okay, see, you

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Speaker 1: outscored Indiana thirty four to twenty, and there was a

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Speaker 1: in a minute, it was a tie game, and then

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Speaker 1: fans were going insane. Though they were going insane the

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Speaker 1: of the quarter. Oka See shot fifty percent in the third,

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Speaker 1: they hit five threes, They forced seven turnovers off Indiana. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: That was a massive run. But still the Pacers never quit.

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Speaker 1: They got it back down tofore. Unfortunately, Indiana then hit

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Speaker 1: See extends their lead. Benedict Mathern just decides I'm driving

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Maybe some tense moments for okay See.

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Speaker 1: I think the Pacers got it down to ten, but

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Speaker 1: they played enough defense got enough scoring down the stretch

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Speaker 1: to win their first title. Definitely going to be a

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Speaker 1: memorable Game seven. Obviously, the Halliburton injury factors into this

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Speaker 1: But the Thunder saw their opportunity in the third quarter

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Speaker 2: Yes, that third quarter obviously super super key. You could

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Speaker 2: Game seven of an NBA Finals for ok See, they

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Speaker 2: didn't look extremely comfortable. We weren't getting a great Jalen

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Speaker 1: We weren't getting a good Chick Holme game.

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Speaker 2: Obviously Shaye missed a ton of shots when we go

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Speaker 2: As you said, so did the Pacers, and you've got

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Speaker 2: us sixty eight win team versus a fifty win team

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Speaker 2: you got the Caruso layup to start it. With three

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Speaker 2: straight buckets to start that thing. And then that Jaln

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Speaker 2: after he did the euro step and his foot.

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Speaker 1: Kind of touched the ground as he let it go

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Speaker 2: My goodness, that is so hard to tell whether or

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Speaker 2: not you should have been just called for a travel.

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Speaker 3: That was tough.

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Speaker 2: I've watched it ten times. I still don't know, and

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Speaker 2: I don't think the referee can make that call.

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Speaker 1: Bang bank calls like that that doesn't ever get brought

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Speaker 1: well earlier in the series on an out of bound save, right,

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Speaker 1: like his foot barely touched but McConnell, right, Yeah, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, McConnell did one of the McConnell saves and

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Speaker 2: everybody's like, well, McConnell wade a save, but then he.

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Speaker 1: His foot touched. Yeah, I thought, how can you watch

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's possible though, but yeah it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was technically a travel on Jalen Williams,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm fine with doing that.

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Speaker 2: And then, as you said, those three shots, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they didn't shoot well in the first half. They shot

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Speaker 2: four of eighteen from three, but then in that third quarter,

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Speaker 2: Shay hit his first three and then there was a steal.

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Speaker 2: Then Chet hit his first three that hadn't been shooting well.

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Speaker 2: Then Jalen hit his first three. So yeah, three guys

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Speaker 2: hit their first threes to go up nine, as you

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Speaker 2: said there, and they shot four of eight from three

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Speaker 2: freaking Pacers team does not stop fighting. Obviously, we just

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Speaker 2: mentioned that guy TG mcconfor someon he did earlier in

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Speaker 2: the series. The McConnell third quarter came back again. Yeah, classic,

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Speaker 2: classic McConnell.

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Speaker 3: What a series.

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Speaker 1: It was good and it was bad. You know, he

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Speaker 1: He was taking it to Case and Wallace once again.

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Speaker 1: They basically let TJ play one on one when they're

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Speaker 1: and that's when you were really feeling the absence of

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Speaker 1: McConnell did what he could, Nemhar did what he could,

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Speaker 2: he did, and that's I'm kind of curious if it

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Speaker 2: and siakon played under forty minutes this game, in the

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Speaker 2: thirteen to one to fifty six of that third quarter

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Speaker 2: he sat nearly five and a half minutes. Now TJ

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Speaker 2: McConnell was picking it up for them offensively, but that's

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Speaker 2: So I just I know this team is all about

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Speaker 1: I feel like Siakam could have had a big time impact.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was so with you.

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Speaker 1: I thought, honestly, probably should have gone the full twenty

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Speaker 1: I would like to see him over forty minutes for sure,

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Speaker 1: But the twenty four minutes just played once. He is

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Speaker 2: It was a fun third quarter to see TJ McConnell

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Speaker 2: we need Caruso out there. So he called Caruso to

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Speaker 2: And that's why this series was was so good, so emotional. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: There to cry.

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Speaker 2: It was crying in the hallway there, and I don't

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Speaker 3: He was just so emotional.

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Speaker 1: Teach McConnell has nice parents.

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Speaker 3: It seems it does.

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Speaker 1: Got good parents.

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Speaker 2: It does, although the broadcasters did know it at some point,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, yeah, which just happens. He's like, I just

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Speaker 1: miss free throws? Dare you? Let's talk about Halliburton though,

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Speaker 1: an all time what if game? Nine points in seven minutes,

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Speaker 2: It was it was seven minutes and he was doing

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Speaker 2: just happened to get to him. It wasn't like he

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Speaker 2: this is my time. It was in the Pacers offense.

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Speaker 2: So I thought he was doing it well. It was

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Speaker 2: incredible to see him splash three threes when he hasn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But I thought I just felt like him playing

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Speaker 3: The first half.

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Speaker 1: It's like the lay Siakham was playing in the first

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Speaker 1: I felt like he was everywhere for the Pacers. In

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Speaker 1: the first half, it seemed like Haliburton had to going.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like Nemhard was gonna be able to play

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Speaker 3: You're thinking it, you're thinking it?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think that we were. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think if Haliburton plays were probably putting this series into

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Speaker 1: the stire. Who knows if that means the Pacers are

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Speaker 2: Yes, and to see how Haliburton was torn up on

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Speaker 2: did you feel it pop? Because you can see him

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Speaker 2: saying I did, I did, I did I did, and

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Speaker 3: Sleeve. That's so hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we got to get rid of the

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Speaker 3: Just get rid of them, because.

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Speaker 2: Quite often you can see the ripple happening through the

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Speaker 2: it now with Haliburton. We saw it a little bit

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Speaker 2: with Damian Lillard earlier this year. We didn't see it

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Speaker 2: those things. And obviously it didn't help that that he

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Speaker 2: wondered maybe that'll help. Didn't help obviously for him to

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Speaker 2: They just know in their heads it's done. Like it's

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Speaker 2: happened with him, It's happened with Ken, Durant's happen with Tatum.

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Speaker 3: Even it's just.

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Speaker 2: Over, it's you get a run going back the other

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Speaker 2: way and okay See's fans are cheering for okay fan

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Speaker 2: Fans getting they were getting ripped apart because they were

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Speaker 2: cheering when Durant went down, but they were cheering, I

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Speaker 2: think for the score, and you could see Lowry and

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Speaker 2: Abaka saying, just shut up. The guy got hurt.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately here for Haliburn, he also got hurt. It sucks

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Speaker 1: this season to Terror's Achilles. Wiseman did it early in

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Speaker 1: a foot turning, it's the one where everybody's like, uh, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what happened, especially the way he reacted slapping

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Speaker 1: the floor. Yes, sad to see him like postgame, greeting

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Speaker 1: all the guys on crutches with his hood up, his

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Speaker 3: Yeah, super bummer.

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Speaker 2: And yes I watched it because unfortunately you have to

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Speaker 2: and Danielle put her eyes up because she's not watching

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like the broadcast showed the replay too

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Speaker 1: many times? I saw that complaint quite a bit on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, came back, especially the complaint was happening, especially in

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Speaker 2: it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was the most important player of the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep. Simply should have been asked.

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Speaker 1: The one guy who knows about this, and we have

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Speaker 2: I do want to note the thunder in the first half.

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Speaker 2: chill out. You know, he wasn't trying to put it

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Speaker 2: that's why he got twelve assists. Now he was settling,

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Speaker 3: A lot of threes.

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Speaker 2: He took a lot of threes, but he was just

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Speaker 2: deag Natt will never get upset like I say, A

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Speaker 2: I was basically called the side out, and everybody's complaining

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Speaker 2: he could be saying, hey, what's going on here? Sent

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Speaker 2: going to our next one. He's calling the next play.

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Speaker 2: So everybody is composed. And even though Jalen Williams I thought,

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Speaker 2: he slowed down first possession to allow Nie Smith to

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Speaker 2: didn't shoot that fade on Pascal Siakam. They stayed with it,

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Speaker 2: Siakam had him going, but he stayed down and was

434
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Speaker 2: able to sort of knock it off Miles Turner and

435
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 2: out of bounds.

436
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Speaker 3: So they stayed with it.

437
00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 2: This team, it's Spurs esque, It's Tim Duncan esque. Where

438
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,880
Speaker 2: they they are so chill. I mean, we will get

439
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 2: into postgame celebrations, but how chill was that postgame celebration?

440
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Speaker 1: People are calling out for not being as excited as

441
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,840
Speaker 1: the Florida Panthers. Just how they react. Okay, they just

442
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,719
Speaker 1: played a tough game, seven game series. It was repetitive

443
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: for I don't know three quarters basically, and there were

444
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: some tense moments in the fourth, but that's just how

445
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,399
Speaker 1: the thunder are. Very low key. I think Shae gilges

446
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: Alexander Worthy Finals MVP. He ended up being the unanimous

447
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,720
Speaker 1: choice for the eleven voters. Average thirty points a game,

448
00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,840
Speaker 1: five rebounds, almost six assists, almost two steals, and a

449
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: block and a half. Incredible performance by Shay, and I

450
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 1: did think he was the best player on the court

451
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 1: in Game seven. I think pretty fitting that he's a

452
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,640
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant acolyte. He went twenty nine points last night,

453
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 1: Shay did on eight of twenty seven field goal shooting

454
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Speaker 1: and eleven for twelve at the free throw line. You

455
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 1: look at Kobe Bryant Game seven, twenty ten, he wins

456
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 1: finals MVP, goes twenty three points on twenty four shots. Obviously,

457
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,479
Speaker 1: the six for twenty four that everybody remembers also went

458
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 1: eleven of fifteen at the free throw line, But the

459
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 1: difference was that the other contributions Kobe made in twenty

460
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 1: ten were rebounding. He had fifteen rebounds in that game,

461
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: but for Shay it was the playmaking twelve assists only

462
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,040
Speaker 1: one turnover, which is pretty awesome. Came back in off

463
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 1: an eight turnover game in game six and just knew

464
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: how to attack the pacers. This time. They weren't pressing

465
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 1: him up as they did in games one through five,

466
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 1: so he said, if you're going to pick me up

467
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 1: a little bit further, I'm going to be more patient

468
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: with the ball. He was really eager to give it

469
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 1: up when somebody was open. I thought he did a

470
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 1: great job of keeping his dribble alive and drawing one

471
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 1: more defender so he'd either dump it off or kick

472
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: it out for a three pointerer. Seven of his twelve

473
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 1: assists were for threes, three of them were for layups

474
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Speaker 1: or dunks, so these were like high value assists from

475
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 1: Shay Gilles Alexander. He just played it perfectly. This was

476
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 1: like one of his better playmaking point guard games. You know,

477
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: Shay's out there to score. For the most part, he

478
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: led the league and scoring, became one of four guys

479
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 1: to win finals, MVP and MVP in a scoring title

480
00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 1: in the same season. But he was just setting the

481
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Speaker 1: table for everybody last night, which is why I think

482
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 1: he saw Jadubb get going in the second half, while

483
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: chet Holmgren had a good game scoring as well being

484
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: aggressive looking for his shot. So that was a perfectly

485
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: played game from Shaya. The shooting percentages not great, but

486
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: that's game seven shooting percentages going eight for twenty seven.

487
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: It happens. You find other ways to contribute, get to

488
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: the line, make plays for your teammates, play defense, and

489
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 1: that's why he got eleven of eleven.

490
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 2: Votes right, and those defensive blocks are key that he

491
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: does it so well, just along the baseline to be

492
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: that guy to help out and do that thing. It

493
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 2: is Kobe like numbers. There's no doubt eight of twenty

494
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 2: seven versus Kobe six of twenty four. But Shaye does

495
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: so much to set his guys up in this one. Yeah,

496
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: I did think that this was the the optimal Shay

497
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 2: game in terms of setting guys up. Obviously, he did

498
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 2: an incredible job for that. He set up as Cruso

499
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: immediately as soon as Caruso came in to.

500
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Speaker 3: His first quarter run.

501
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Speaker 2: While everybody else is not shooting that well, and Cruso

502
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 2: came off two games where he had to combine two points.

503
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 2: Dag Nault said, Cruso, you're in. This play is run

504
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,959
Speaker 2: for you, my man. And if you saw Obi toppin

505
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 2: kind of go down and tag. It was Isaiah Hartenstein

506
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,400
Speaker 2: who's running down the lane and while he's tagging Caruso

507
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 2: is there one pass away. So he lined up a three.

508
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: Then the next possession down, Cruso lined up another three.

509
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: I thought, top and we're pointing the little things did

510
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 2: another tagging down in the post area and left Crusoe

511
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 2: up way too open. So we got two Caruso threes

512
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: just to kind of bounce out again, because that's the

513
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: one guy on this young team who's done it before,

514
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 2: and he sure looked like it coming in and helping

515
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 2: him out.

516
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said he was happy to get his first

517
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 1: real ring. Yes it wasn't a bubble one and can

518
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 1: celebrate with people there. But you could tell that the

519
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: game plan for the Pacers was similar to the one

520
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: they had in Game six. They were collapsing on Shay's drives.

521
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: They were happy to give Caruso outside shots, and he

522
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: knocked down the first two of them. That was massive,

523
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: and you could tell that Shay knew how the help

524
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: was going to be in this game and where his

525
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: passes were going to be. That was big time second

526
00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: star status in this game to me was chet holmgren points,

527
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: eight rebounds, of steal, five blocks, the most in the

528
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: game seven finals history. Pretty cool. I thought he was

529
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: aggressive looking to score. He shot the ball confidently, only

530
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: took two threes, but knocked one of them down. Alex

531
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Speaker 1: Crusoe did get the start in the second half. That's

532
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: the Daignaut go to, we start double big, we go

533
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: to single big at halftime. Check played eighteen of the

534
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: twenty four second half minutes as the only big man

535
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: on the court, and I thought every stint was pretty

536
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: effective blocking shots at the rim is his specialty, but

537
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: he was doing a great job when he was getting

538
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: switched onto a guard and being able to keep his

539
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: feet move and keep them in front or take bumps

540
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: from Siakam, get his hands up and make it tough

541
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: for Pascal to even really get a look. He was

542
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: an incredible defensive player in this game and then brought

543
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: it on the offensive end as well, shooting a couple

544
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: of threes, rolling to the hoop and just timing things

545
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: perfectly around Shay.

546
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Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, another one of those guys that is just

547
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 2: so chill.

548
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 3: I mean, he.

549
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: Could evoked too much emotion, but he was just locked

550
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: in was blocks for monstrous. The way he shut down

551
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: within the restricted area, you couldn't go anywhere around Chet Holmgreen. Yesterday,

552
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 2: I wanted to just point out a couple quick things

553
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: I thought, Cason Wallace out TJ McCall, mcconnald, TJ McConnell,

554
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: like he kind of that beautiful t J McConnell's steal

555
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: on a TJ inbound. Yeah, that was awesome to see

556
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: Caseon Wallace coming and do that. His first three steals

557
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: were more than forty feet from the hoops. That's t

558
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: j Mcconnalll's that's hard to do, man, and so he

559
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: had four steals. Awesome for him, Like these guys came through.

560
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: I thought deagnot actually going no big for two minutes

561
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 2: in the second quarter was a little surprising to go

562
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: to Jalen Williams as the five because they did the

563
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: no big only once in this series. It was the

564
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: last three minutes and twenty four seconds of Game one

565
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: when Tyres halbertn hit that game winning shot. So I

566
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 2: thought they'd never go back to it because it didn't

567
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 2: work all that well. I mean, there was some good

568
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: things because lou Dort was being huge, but at the

569
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: same time, this guy said in Game seven, we're still

570
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: going to do it, So just just fun stuff. I

571
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: thought from coach from the team to really step up

572
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: in this game.

573
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he tried it in the second quarter. I

574
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: didn't think it worked or didn't work for the third.

575
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: It was just kind of it's kind of like it

576
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: didn't kill him, which it did in game one.

577
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: Like we were saying exactly.

578
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: Hartenstein was pretty solid, I thought, even though he got

579
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: the second half bench job, I thought he made some plays.

580
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: Seven points, nine rebounds, He had three offensive rebounds. He

581
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: obviously the good ball mover four assists last night, had

582
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: a steal. He was just doing his part as the

583
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 1: backup big man. Only six minutes in the second half,

584
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: but I thought they were all six pretty good minutes.

585
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: And then you look on the flip side, like Obi

586
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: top and did not have a good game in this one.

587
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: Miles Turner did not have a good finals. That continued

588
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: into Game seven. I think Toppin said that he was

589
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: really affected by Halliburton going out didn't make a shot

590
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: last night. Those are the kind of things that to

591
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: steal a game seven when your best player goes out,

592
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: like you got to get performances from some random guys.

593
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: They got one from McConnell, but outside of that, not

594
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: much else. Juice I didn't think from the Pacers except

595
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: for Mathurn was Mathron was awesome in the fourth quarter.

596
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: He's like, we're losing, I'm going to the rim every

597
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: single time, and they followed him every single time. Went

598
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: ten for ten from the line, finished with twenty four

599
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 1: points thirteen rebounds. This was his best game since the

600
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: twenty seven points in twenty two minutes, but unfortunately too little,

601
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: too late.

602
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I can't wait to see what he becomes

603
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: next year with the Indiana Pacers, if they use him more,

604
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: or how that goes. But yes, the supporting guys maybe

605
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: just didn't do it enough. Even though Miles Turner got

606
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: back and broke up a three on one.

607
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: How did you break up?

608
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: That was vere on one? That was pretty cool?

609
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: Any other basketball e stuff, because there's lots of off

610
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: court random stuff.

611
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 3: I mean there is.

612
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Actually more basketball he stuff we got here. Do you

613
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: want to get into our random stuff?

614
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 3: Well?

615
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: I did think it was impending doom when lou Dort

616
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: hit the fifty foot three from the logo, I mean

617
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: crazy when I do the math, that doesn't make sense.

618
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: It seemed like the thirty footer though, like the shot

619
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: clock was dying out. Yeah, and he shoots his moon

620
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: ball and drains it. It's like, yeah, if they're going

621
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: to get going in the second half, it's going to

622
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: be a problem. And you know, the Thunder scored a

623
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 1: lot better in the second half. But the main thing

624
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: was only eight turnovers for OKC last night, twenty three

625
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: for the Pacers, So eighty seven to seventy was the

626
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: shot difference in favor of OKC. They only shot forty

627
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: percent from the field twenty eight percent from three, and

628
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 1: they still won this thing pretty handily because they were

629
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: able to dominate the possession game. Now, obviously a lot

630
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: of that is missing out on Halliburton thirteen turnovers in

631
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: the second half for the Pacers probably gets cut down

632
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of Halliburton's out there controlling the ball,

633
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: controlling pace. But that's the way the Thunder play. They

634
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: play awesome defense, and then they turned that defense into offense,

635
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: and that was the recipe for them the entire season.

636
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: That was the recipe in the third quarter and the fourth.

637
00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, they started that third quarter again missing on their

638
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: first three possessions and turning one in one of them

639
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 2: into a Dort bomb. I mean, did that did they

640
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: turn it into? I should say just Dort turned it

641
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: into it because Shaye actually had the ball on the

642
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: high post mid post, and he passed out and it

643
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: ended up being in Dort's hands and Dort with just

644
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: that incredible shot, and you could I could have seen

645
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Shae and the ridicule going towards Shae for that, like

646
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: why are you passing out of that?

647
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: And then it ends up being Dort just saving them.

648
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: So awesome. I mean, I can't help.

649
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm just in the mode of

650
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 2: just over watching everything, but even you know, I watched

651
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: Shaye pass out of that. I watched the Tyrese Haliburn

652
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: injury over and over and over again, and wondering if

653
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: Nemhard gives that first pass to Obi Toppin in the corner,

654
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: in the pocket maybe top and just shoots it and

655
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: we see Halburton go down the other way instead of

656
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: it goes back to Halliburton, who injured his calf right

657
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: when he got the ball again.

658
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: So it felt like the exact same move he made

659
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: when he strained his calf the first time, even on

660
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: the same spot, like that left wing going from left

661
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: to right. It was almost identical, and just yeah, it sucked.

662
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: It did suck, obviously, not morech more you can say.

663
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 2: Hopefully, hopefully he makes a short turnaround, a short recovery

664
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: for next season, because the Santanna Pacers team got to

665
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: assume is going to be good again.

666
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to random notes. Random. Oh oh,

667
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: it's fun.

668
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: We got a lot of random notes, we do.

669
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: The boys were locked in last night. Great game for shake,

670
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Giljes Alexander twenty nine points, twelve assists, Finals MVP. He

671
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: earned it. The only thing he's bad at is shooting

672
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: half court shots. Went two for twelve from three last night,

673
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: and his half court shot at the end of the

674
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: second quarter missed by probably fifteen feet way short. So

675
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: his half court shot at the end of the third

676
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: quarter he overcompensates and hits the glass above the square.

677
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: I just feel like maybe the way he shoots the

678
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: ball isn't conducive to deep deep range. That's a good point. Yeah,

679
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: there's no way he can get into his bag and

680
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: shoot a step back from half court, so he's got

681
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: to like just chuck it, and they were way off. Yes,

682
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: it's like his one weakness.

683
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 2: He can't make a half court Maybe that's what he

684
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: has to work on in the summer.

685
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Just more that's what he's getting better at.

686
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, just more of a yokic baseball toss, like just

687
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: chuck it.

688
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

689
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: People say he's at his peak, now he's got one

690
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: more level to go. He doesn't reliable half court shots.

691
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: That's a good point, though.

692
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: I like how you pointed out that he missed two

693
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: of those, so he didn't care about his stats you know, no, no,

694
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: not at all.

695
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: So really he was two of ten.

696
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:41,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, two chucks.

697
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: That's good A right, Moving on to Alex Caruso missing

698
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: this throwback dunk, which would have been enormous if he

699
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: was able to put it down. He grabbed it like

700
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: three feet away from the hoop and tried to have

701
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: a like a thrunk, I mean a Dwight Howard trunk.

702
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: I guess he was sort of pushed a little bit,

703
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: so maybe he would have been closer if he wasn't touched.

704
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: But I thought, watching it again, I thought, did he

705
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: make a mistake? Should if he just tried to lay

706
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: it in like we used to do, highlight that wasn't

707
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: back in our starter's days for plays that didn't end

708
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: up being a highlight. I know, if maybe I'm just

709
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: an Internet kid now internet forty year old man that says,

710
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: come on, come on, man, you should have laid that in.

711
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: But like I was wondering, would that be a highlight

712
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: that wasn't it? Or is it or should be? Should

713
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 2: Alex Caruso be criticized because he didn't lay it in?

714
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: This was overly ambitious. I would say, definitely a highlight

715
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: that was it? Because it was an exciting play it is.

716
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I rank it as highly as Lebron's

717
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: missed dunk in the fourth quarter of Game seven and

718
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, when he gots filed and Draymond Green files him.

719
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: It would have been one of the greatest dunks in

720
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: NBA history. I don't think it's quite at that level.

721
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: I also don't think Caruso was close at all to

722
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: be able to make this. I don't think he had

723
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: the ball above the rim at any point, so he

724
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: shouldn't have even tried to lay it up. He should

725
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: have brought it down and then got into offense or

726
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: put it back up. The one thing that wasn't gonna

727
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: work wasn't Dwight Howard thrunk.

728
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got ambitious, that's for sure. I mean, you

729
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: compare it to the Lebron dunk that wasn't a dunk.

730
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: We could do top five moments of highlights that weren't

731
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: things that were super close best.

732
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Missed dunks and NBA history or NBA Finals history. That's

733
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: a decent short.

734
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we go.

735
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: Moving on to Chet Holmgren winning a jump ball late

736
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. I thought was important because he

737
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: did it with his left hand. Now guys are getting

738
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: into the circle further and further and further. I wouldn't

739
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: be able to officiate how close guys get it.

740
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: It's such a.

741
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: Difficult thing to officiate. But it was also just a

742
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: bad toss there from the referee. Chet Holmgren's got his

743
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: right hand. He is ready to go with his right hand,

744
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: but it gets tossed up over and I don't know

745
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: if Benedict Matheun was really gonna come which at home

746
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: we're in any way, he kind of just stayed on

747
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: the ground, but Chet literally taps it with his left hand.

748
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 3: It's like both his hands are working.

749
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen a guy go for a reverse

750
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: on a jump.

751
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: Ball before, exactly Like, look at the dexterity.

752
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: A spectacular move. Give me the Michael Jordan call from

753
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: Marv Albert over the top of that jump that's a

754
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: weird one.

755
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 3: That was a weird one. Yeah.

756
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, And guys are getting more and more physical, so

757
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: there's gonna be probably more and more of that random

758
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: stuff happening. I don't know how you officiate it, but yeah.

759
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: That's one of the craziest things to watch in NBA. Games.

760
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: Is the jockeying for position during jump balls. I like

761
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: how in like in the NHL, when they're doing a

762
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: face off, right, if the guys get a little too aggressive,

763
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: they're like, you get.

764
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 3: Out of here. Yeah, we got to.

765
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 1: Get these two new guys in here who are clean.

766
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: I don't understand the point of that rule, but it'd

767
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: be funny if the NBA instituted that. They're like, no, no, no, no, no,

768
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 1: you guys have to go stand over there. You can't

769
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: stand next to each other right now. He ruined it

770
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: for everyone.

771
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there wasn't another scenario where they said, oh,

772
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: we're not doing this jump all we're doing We're going again.

773
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: There was a bad jump or something, right, a bad toss.

774
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

775
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's why zach Zarba was practicing before game six.

776
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: He was getting his throws right exactly. Any other random notes,

777
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: a lot more random notes, and then gregious flop by

778
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: lou Dort at the end of the second quarter. This

779
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: one felt like a heat seeking missile of a flop.

780
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: He saw Benedict Mathren knew he wasn't going to be

781
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,919
Speaker 1: able to get set and just ran right at him

782
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: and then fell over despite being the guy running forward

783
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: who is bigger than Mathren. Somehow Dort got the call

784
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: on this one. But that was a brutal, brutal flop.

785
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: That was just running into him so he could flop

786
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: so he could draw a call. Yes, well done, it worked.

787
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: What do move?

788
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good at that crazy one. What else do

789
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: we got? I like that the NBA or the that ESPN,

790
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: ABC showed the national anthem, Kristin Chenowith singing it like

791
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier. Okay, see, fans stood the whole game.

792
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty cool to see. Like Reggie

793
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: Miller was in the stands. They don't give him as

794
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: good as tickets and okay, see yeah, but he was

795
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: rocking the Chris Mullen jersey.

796
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was out there. He's up like five or

797
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: six rows. Anything on the hats, yeah, the post.

798
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: Game, the postgame festivities. What did you think of these

799
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: tall championship hats? I call them a pee paw hat

800
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: like mem On pea.

801
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 3: Paw because they're so tall.

802
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: They're very tall. They got the little point at the front,

803
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: they got the rope around the bill. I feel like

804
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: you could maybe get this at a golf course in

805
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, it's funny to watch the NBA

806
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: like mimic the trends.

807
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

808
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like when Kevin Durant won his first championship

809
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 1: with the Warriors, they gave him a dad hat because

810
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: dad hats were popp and then eventually they're like, what

811
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: are we doing dad hats for? I think they'll probably

812
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: look back on these thunder Trucker hats the same way.

813
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: But they're a team that has a gas station as

814
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: their jersey sponsor, so maybe it fits.

815
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

816
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: But the rope, everyone's doing the rope. Everyone's doing the rope,

817
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: So I think that was smart that ye try. For sure,

818
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: I didn't think they were that high when I look

819
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: at it, but maybe I'm wrong.

820
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: They could be taller. I mean, they could certainly be

821
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: taller a man. Larry Luke has made the tallest pipa

822
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: hat of all time. Mark Daignault wearing his was hilarious. Also,

823
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: the guys put like four or five hats on him

824
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: at one point. But this reminded me of playing Little

825
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: league baseball in the early nineteen nineties, where for whatever reason,

826
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: you would wear your hat as far back on your

827
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: head as you could, just so you could show off

828
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: your bangs in the front, But I like the gear

829
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: in general for the Thunder, Like the NBA champion shirts.

830
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: Chip shirts were cool on the back of side win

831
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: it or won it for the city I was a

832
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: Thunder fan, I'd probably go hat and shirt to be

833
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: quite off, honest where all summer long I dream I

834
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: dream of getting a chance to wear my own championship gears.

835
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, for sure, I would be happy to wear that.

836
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Are they trucker hats? Are they meshy at the back?

837
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: They weren't meshy at the back? Okay, Yeah, so that's

838
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: why it's a little more grandpa to me.

839
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Pipa, it's always fun to say.

840
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,280
Speaker 1: Isaiah Hertenstein's son stole the show at the postgame celebrations.

841
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: Elijah sleeping through all of the festivities. Least assaulters to

842
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: ask you, like why is he asleep? And you wake

843
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: him up? I love Shae like helping Isaiah hold his

844
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: head up. That was awesome. But this is like one

845
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: of the best times to take your kids places when

846
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: they are, you know, under a year and a half.

847
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: I think he's thirteen months old. I saw According to

848
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: the Internet, that's when you can just take him to

849
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: event and they'll fall asleep and you just have fun

850
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: with your friends.

851
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you just got to hold your kid

852
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: once a while though they get excitable.

853
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah.

854
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: It's been pretty impressive how Heartenstein is written on the

855
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 2: back of a one year old's jersey.

856
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: That has got to be tough to get all those letters.

857
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, there, that is impressive. One other thing I saw postgame.

858
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 2: I didn't grab this because I mean I screen grabbed it,

859
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: and you know, the NBA dot Com or the NBA

860
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: player says, we don't like that and just gives you

861
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: the screen grab from a different time. But anyway, Shay

862
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 2: had those gold shoes around, yeah, around his neck. You

863
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: could see the stuffing was still in it. I thought

864
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: that was in his shoe, in his shoe. He liked

865
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: to keep the form of it. Yeah, because they were

866
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: brand new wearing all those shoes. It was what you

867
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier that people wanted, Okay, see getting crazy, like

868
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 2: the Florida Panthers who were playing Big Pony Club in

869
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 2: their dressing room.

870
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: Pony Club.

871
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Pink Pony Club, Big Pony Clubs. Sometimes

872
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: I hear.

873
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: Them like is it the same big, big Pony Club.

874
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's big or pink. That would

875
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: have been fun. It was just so low key.

876
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: It was pretty lowkey. I mean they said postgame, Hartenstein

877
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: said nobody knew how to pop bottles of champagne. I

878
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: think Sam Presti said they're too young to drink anyways.

879
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean their guys are actually over twenty one, so

880
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: legally it's allowed. But it was pretty hilarious for them

881
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, we don't really know what we're doing.

882
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: So they got Caruso in there. He's like, we tried

883
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 1: to time it and we couldn't get it till our

884
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: third one. Everybody do it at the same time. So look,

885
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 1: this is the seventh different NBA champion seven years. Who

886
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: knows at the thunder our back next season, But odds

887
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: are they make it back at some point. Easy to

888
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: say right now, they would probably celebrate a little bit

889
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: better the second time.

890
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: Oh for sure.

891
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: It could have been their first one, and you're right,

892
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: this could be a dynasty. And on those championship hats,

893
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: I think it is fitting for it to say twenty

894
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: twenty four, twenty twenty five, because there will be more

895
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: years to add to that hat collection. It's only the beginning.

896
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: Any other random notes, because I got one that ain't

897
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: really related to this.

898
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: I think my only last one is I thought it

899
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 1: was pretty funny that Shay Giless Alexander said Jalen Williams

900
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: is a once in a lifetime player. Funniest possible name

901
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: you could say that about. When there's another Jalen Williams

902
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: standing right there, We're like, yeah, it is spelled different,

903
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: but kind of twice at all.

904
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great, that's funny. You mentioned Jalen Williams

905
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: the Jade Dubb because he was very emotional as time

906
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: ticked down. And I wondered about when I saw him

907
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three and we were all together, we

908
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 2: were at Summer League and we were at the Cosmopolitan

909
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: Food Court and he was there. He had he had

910
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: his hoodie on. He looked incognito, you can't really tell.

911
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: And this was just after his first season, when you know,

912
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: he wasn't a huge name as much as he is

913
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: right now. And I guess he was just he was

914
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: just real sleek. People weren't bugging him there. People didn't

915
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: know his face as well as they do now. And

916
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: now he's Jalen Williams. I mean, that is just a

917
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: huge change in two years. So I wondered was he

918
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: crying there as well when his order wasn't coming up?

919
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 2: Because those orders were never coming up. It was just

920
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: a stupid idea, stupid thought of Jalen Williams.

921
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, again gaining recognition.

922
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: He'll never go to a food court unnoticed. Again. I'll

923
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: never have to go to one again. You'll ever eat

924
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: in a food court again? Nope, interesting follow up with them,

925
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: I got a tough one to check in in sixty years. Hey,

926
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: by the way, we've been wondering this, what do you

927
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: think about the thunderbusses before the game got called out

928
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: by Rick Carlisle. I just saw a video of painted

929
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: open top buses and that's all I can think about.

930
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that said twenty twenty five champions on them. Oh man,

931
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: I thought that's wrong. They shouldn't be doing that.

932
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: They shouldn't paint bunch of buses that are No.

933
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: They could have started last night and they would have

934
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: been painted a couple of days for the parade.

935
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know.

936
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: I honestly, maybe I'm dumb, but I thought, whoa are

937
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: these ai? Are these real at first? But yeah, obviously

938
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: they were real and they're cool with it. It's not

939
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: it's not quite you know, bring out the yellow ropes

940
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: for the Spurs.

941
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 3: But how did you feel about it?

942
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: Look, man, people are doing their jobs. They kind of

943
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: keet these things ready. Guess what. There were Pacers championship

944
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: shirts in the arena as well. I like that. The

945
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: OKC comeback was Yeah. But they're putting out porter potties

946
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: for the parade in Indianapolis. You gotta prepare ahead of time.

947
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: That's a good point. If you live in Oklahoma City,

948
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 1: you're basically a thunder fan. That's one thing I learned

949
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: being there for a few days. Yeah, nobody's gonna want

950
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: to be painting a bus the day after winning a championship.

951
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: I get it done before.

952
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 3: Very very good point.

953
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: What happens to those buses if they lose? That's it now,

954
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: that would suck. That would be the worst job is

955
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: turpentining the paint off the bus the day after losing

956
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: a game seven. That'd be brutal.

957
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: I did mention being at a Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas. Segue,

958
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: We've got details on our live show coming up in

959
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: Las Vegas. We'll be there for Summer League. We will

960
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: be in the Mandalay sportsbook Room on Friday, July eleventh

961
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: at four pm. It's free, it's fun and baby, it's Vegas,

962
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: So come on by and hang out with us again.

963
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: Mandalay Bay sports book Room, four pm. Skeets made this

964
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: photoshop of meet here in the Mandelee.

965
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 3: Sports book Room. Is that where we're I don't know.

966
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Is that what we're meeting?

967
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: Is that we'll be right behind the fourth chair next

968
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: to the wheel made of chains on the ground. Find

969
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: us there specifically.

970
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: We've done We've done shows in Las Ags, but never

971
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: in a sports book room.

972
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: Now that's the.

973
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 3: First for us.

974
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: We had that one meet and greet that was adjacent

975
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 1: to a sports book room. And keep these savages in.

976
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: We can't let them talk to the people.

977
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 3: That should be fun.

978
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: That'll be a good time.

979
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 3: July eleventh, That's right, July eleventh for local.

980
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: See you there, Williams. Will they see him. I'll be

981
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: looking forward and be camped out at the Cosmo Food Court.

982
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 3: I'm just waiting to see if all right.

983
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 2: Let's just kind of circle back to the NBA Finals,

984
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,720
Speaker 2: just in general.

985
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: Zoom out seven games.

986
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: Were there any big takeaways from the finals tray?

987
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: This is the worst the Thunder are going to be

988
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: for a while. That's pretty wild to think about. As

989
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: they mentioned on the broadcast and postgame last night, this

990
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: is the youngest championship team since nineteen seventy seven. They

991
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: didn't even know how to pop their champagne bottles. He

992
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: also saw the staff that Sga and Jada were the

993
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: second most points scored in a finals by a duo,

994
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: behind Kyrie Irving and Lebron James in twenty sixteen, just

995
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: ahead of Jordan and Pippen. I think in nineteen ninety

996
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: three six games. Guess what, Chet has more offense in

997
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: his bag. He is going to get better. So this

998
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Thunder team. The last time the Thunder round the finals

999
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: were like, I'll be back for sure. Next thing. You know,

1000
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: James Harden traded to Houston. They didn't make it back

1001
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: until twenty twenty five. I don't think it's going that way.

1002
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: They've got fifteen guys signed for next season. They're adding

1003
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: a lottery pick in Nicola Topich. Eventually, they're going to

1004
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: have to make some decisions about, you know, guys around

1005
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: the periphery once they're starting to pay Jadab, once they're

1006
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: starting to pay Chet as well. So things will change

1007
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: in the future for the Thunder, But they're the favorites

1008
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: for the title next season already. That makes sense. It

1009
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: would be surprising if we don't see him back in

1010
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: a finals in the next three seasons. I think a

1011
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: lot of things can happen. You know, players get injured

1012
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: all the time. Maybe somebody gets mad and wants a trade,

1013
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: or wants a bigger spotlight or something like that. Maybe

1014
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: Sam Presty so crazy he says, you know what, I

1015
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: finally got us to the championship. I'm trading everybody and

1016
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: starting again. Watch how I can do this. Look how

1017
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: easy it was the first time. We won twenty four

1018
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: games in the twenty one to twenty two season. Then

1019
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: they won forty wins, lost in the second play in

1020
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: game in twenty three, followed with fifty seven wins and

1021
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: a second round loss last season, culminates in a sixty

1022
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: eight win NBA championship season, and it's just easy for

1023
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: anydy to replicate. All you have to do is find

1024
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: a diamond in the rough who turns into an MVP

1025
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: and swing a trade for him. Then you got to

1026
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: sign an undrafted guy who becomes an All NBA defensive player.

1027
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: You got to hit every one of your draft picks

1028
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: except for Usman Jang, who still made a three pointer

1029
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: in this series. You got hit on every single trade,

1030
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: adding Isaiah Hartenstein to bang with Nikola Jokic in the

1031
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: second round, adding Alex Caruso to be a top five

1032
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: steels guy in NBA Finals history. All you have to

1033
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: do is do all of those moves perfectly, and you

1034
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: could be the Oklahoma City Thunder. How simple it is.

1035
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: If they can do it, anyone can.

1036
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 3: Right, totally.

1037
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: You got me looking at the point when they're gonna

1038
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 2: have to say, hey, Jada, we're paying you, and there's

1039
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: gonna be max guys, and they will have some difficulty

1040
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: with the way the NBA salary is constructed at keeping

1041
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: these guys around and paying others to support them. So

1042
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: there will be a point of that. Last year, I

1043
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: remember saying after the Boston Celtics win one that they're

1044
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 2: gonna be here. I mean, I'm sure felt that way.

1045
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 2: I wasn't saying it. Everybody was saying it. They were

1046
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: the Finals favorite for the next season, and it wasn't

1047
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: just because Jason Tatum was injured that they lost against

1048
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: the New York Knicks. Sure felt like the Knicks, we're

1049
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: gonna win that series anyway, So.

1050
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: Anything gonna happen. You're totally right. You're totally right.

1051
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: About guys improving though, Chet Holmgren, as you were saying

1052
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: that he's going to get better offensively. You know, flash

1053
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: back to some of the spin moose he had in

1054
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: this series that were awesome. And I just checked the

1055
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 2: box score for me last night.

1056
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 3: Was surprising that he was six of eight.

1057
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: I know, he was sort of cold shooting the three

1058
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: going into last night, so he didn't have a great

1059
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 2: offensive series in a lot of ways. But he'll definitely

1060
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: get better. As he said, I think Cason Walls can

1061
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: definitely get better. He's such a good defensive player. Let's

1062
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: see what he can evolve to on the offense eve end.

1063
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: So they have a lot of support players, So you're right.

1064
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: I mean, this is probably going to be the worst

1065
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 2: that they're going to be, you know, unless you know,

1066
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 2: random stuff does happen, and maybe Sam Presti says he

1067
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: wants to move on, move to his music recording career

1068
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 2: or something, going back to yeah, like Pablo Tory dropped

1069
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: that and problatory. Actually, he noted after uncovering that song,

1070
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: he said they should they should blast this in the

1071
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: locker room or blast it on the bus or something

1072
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 2: you know that would.

1073
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 1: It should make an appearance at the parade at the Exacts.

1074
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: I would have to think that's a great idea. Yeah, yes,

1075
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see. Okay, see grow and.

1076
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: All those things you mentioned about the second round picks

1077
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, the Pacers were so so close.

1078
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: From the other side after having a bunch of guys

1079
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 2: kind of overachieve, you know, random guys like them hard

1080
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 2: as a second rounder. Our Nie Smith, who's like go

1081
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: by the Celtics or aball be topping growing and and

1082
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: TJ McConnell have the series and playoffs of his career.

1083
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, you could be on the other side and

1084
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: be super duper close. Yeah, yeah, I do feel bad

1085
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: for the Pacers. I think this was trending towards an

1086
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: S Tier finals. If Halliburton doesn't get hit hurt in

1087
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: the first quarter at least, it's I am assuming a

1088
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: more competitive second half. Who knows how it goes. But nonetheless,

1089
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: unforgettable Pacers run. They had five fifteen point comebacks in

1090
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 1: the NBA Playoffs. They had three comebacks from down seven

1091
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: or more in the last minute. Obviously, Haliburton hit all

1092
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: of these game winners. People are going to remember the

1093
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: OKC Championship, SGA winning Finals MVP their first title, for sure,

1094
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: but people are also going to remember the way the

1095
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 1: Pacers surprised everybody and had the thunder down at half

1096
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: in Game seven at the very least. But yeah, now

1097
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: the Pacers are gonna have question marks. I feel like

1098
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: that's a major wrinkle to the Halliburton injury, is that

1099
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: an achilles can keep you out for the next season

1100
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: as well. This team hasn't paid the tax since two

1101
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: thousand and five. They've got Miles Turner coming up as

1102
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: a free agent. He's like the biggest center name out there,

1103
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: obviously the longest tenured guy in Indiana as well. Seems

1104
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: like he would want to come back, But they don't

1105
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: pay the tax very much, and Tyres Haliburton's gonna be

1106
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 1: hurt next year, so they're not gonna be a championship

1107
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: contender most likely. I mean, I don't think we ever

1108
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: had him as championship contenders when we did our tiers

1109
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: this year. So they can surprise people for sure. But

1110
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see the way they approach

1111
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: the summer considering they probably take at least a minor

1112
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: step back. I think a team that has the depth

1113
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: they do. They have good guards in Nemhard and McConnell

1114
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: as well. Siakam's a great player. They got a lot

1115
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: of death like we've been saying for the entire playoffs,

1116
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: but without Halliburton, just not quite the same team for sure.

1117
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: So I think you when you look at that trade

1118
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: they just did with the Pelicans getting their twenty twenty

1119
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: six pickback pretty nice because what if Pascal miss is

1120
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: forty games or something next season, the Pacers have an

1121
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: unexpectedly bad season, They're getting a decent draft pick, and

1122
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, you have to say, feels pretty wide open.

1123
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: You've got injuries to the Pacers, the Celtics, and the Bucks.

1124
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: You got a new coach in New York. There are

1125
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: a lot of moves to be made, so I wonder

1126
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: if anybody's really going to go for it seeing the

1127
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: opportunity of a down Eastern Conference. You know, Kevin Durana

1128
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: is staying in the West. We don't know what the

1129
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: Bucks are going to end up doing. We don't know

1130
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 1: what the Knicks necessarily will look like. The Cavs have

1131
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: to be feeling pretty good after a disappointing playoff run.

1132
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: They can be like, let's just run it back. We're

1133
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna be the healthiest, most stable team. And we won

1134
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 1: sixty four games this season, So I think things are

1135
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: looking up in Cleveland at least, and you know the

1136
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: Magic trade, they're probably feeling pretty good bringing in Desmond

1137
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: Bane as well. So that Halliburton injury definitely a bummer

1138
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: for Game seven and the Pacers, but I think it

1139
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,879
Speaker 1: has a lot of effects for the next season as well.

1140
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 3: That's a good point.

1141
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we are here in June and it does take

1142
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: long to recover, and so it will be at least

1143
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: a good chunk of the season. You would think you

1144
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 2: mentioned TJ McConnell and Demhard filling in Benedict Mathern and

1145
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: his growth is pretty important for this team, and I

1146
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: think we'll see him in training camp basically be pushed

1147
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: and taught every strategy as a lead point guard and

1148
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: to see if he can do that because He is

1149
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: definitely a put it on my back, I'm going to

1150
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: score type of guy, and we saw it as Rick

1151
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 2: Carlisle gave him the start in the second half of

1152
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: Game seven and things didn't start extremely well as he

1153
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: had to turnover to start the quarter. But it'll be

1154
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: very different if he gets a training camp to be

1155
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: that guy. And this was his first postseason period, so

1156
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: he's just a young Canadian kid looking to get his

1157
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: He's only twenty three. I wonder, frankly who they start

1158
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: beside them Hart as another guard. But the east is open.

1159
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 2: That's a good point about all that. All right, we

1160
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 2: are done here. Just a reminder, some shirts for sale.

1161
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: It's happening. Just a mere hour's remaining. I guess how

1162
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: many hours we got.

1163
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how many hours.

1164
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 2: Thirty six I would say, I'm a loser who likes numbers.

1165
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: You're probably right. It probably ends at Tuesday night at midnight. Yeah,

1166
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: six thirty seven hours, I guess.

1167
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Back to the pawn shop, No coins.

1168
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: For you, And it is fun to do it as

1169
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: like a two man Back to the.

1170
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 3: Pawnshop, No coins for you.

1171
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: Beautiful, go to no dunks dot com and pick.

1172
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: That one up.

1173
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: Will new show tomorrow back tomorrow, the day before the draft.

1174
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: Lot's happening.

1175
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: The day before the draft is tomorrow. Yes, that's extreme. Yeah,

1176
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: we're drafting on Wednesday, So we'll talk Katie, we'll talk

1177
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: Shirley Ace Bailey. I assume we'll get some slop in

1178
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: the next twenty hours here. Yeah, right now, we only

1179
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: got coaching slop. I mean, I know the people are

1180
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: dying to hear about Sean Sweeney in our thoughts san

1181
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: Antonio spurt of support staff.

1182
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's that's strange.

1183
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 2: The Dallas it's strange, right, I know you're being sarcastic there,

1184
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: but that part's weird.

1185
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: It's weird.

1186
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 2: They put Jay Triano in there, I guess a couple

1187
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, and now they just let go of

1188
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: Sean Sweeney and Jared Dudley and frankly, I think all

1189
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: of Jason Kidd's staffs.

1190
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: So that change up, that's weird.

1191
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with Nico Harrison. I

1192
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on there, so that that part's interesting.

1193
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean, selfishly, it is nice that we got a

1194
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 2: long series and then the draft is right here that

1195
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 2: doesn't happen very often.

1196
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: Non stop NBA action, non stop NBA action. We have

1197
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: two traits with players like notable players during the finals.

1198
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 3: Yes, totally, Yeah, you can go back.

1199
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 2: Make sure you go watch that Durant show from yesterday,

1200
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 2: but we will definitely be talking to it, talking about

1201
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: it tomorrow in the show.

1202
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 3: But for now, Clipper bros.

1203
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

1204
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome, Thanks for joining us, and remember

1205
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers to Skeets and his family. He always

1206
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: told us SGA was pretty special and he was right.

1207
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: He called it. Yeah, send some messages to Skeets. We'll

1208
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: see tomorrow.