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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. It's Gil Alexander. It is Kelly Bedlin,
Speaker 1: producer number nine, so much more than a producer.
Speaker 2: How you doing man, I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great? You had a great football weekend, didn't you,
Speaker 1: Betting wise? NFL have yet, so that's pretty good. Hasn't
Speaker 1: lost yet? I say yet though, because uh Buffalo to
Speaker 1: Buffalo today. I have Buffalo tonight, pending a three to
Speaker 1: one based on guessing lines reactions last week for me
Speaker 1: as well, so trying to get a second consecutive four
Speaker 1: and one. That's why we do this exercise.
Speaker 2: People. You know the regrets from this from this past weekend.
Speaker 2: It was the same old why didn't I bet that bigger?
Speaker 2: Or why didn't I make another better two that me
Speaker 2: and you talked all week about which one was? Then Steelers?
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I know. That wasn't the That wasn't
Speaker 1: the loss though. The loss was the Broncos for me, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for me, that didn't work out. Sean Payton did the
Speaker 1: right thing at the end of that game. We'll get
Speaker 1: into all of that. We If you're not familiar with
Speaker 1: this exercise, we look back at the previous weekend's games.
Speaker 1: But the point is to guess. I don't know the
Speaker 1: lines for the upcoming week. I'm in a cocoon. I
Speaker 1: guess them. Kelly tells me what they are, and within
Speaker 1: that exercise we look to extract value. That first reaction
Speaker 1: has not only served us well here these last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, it served us well for years and years
Speaker 1: here doing the National Football League, and then we have
Speaker 1: to endure four or five days of everybody else telling.
Speaker 2: Us we're wrong, right, yeah, or us overthinking things like Steelers,
Speaker 2: like the Steelers, that's right.
Speaker 1: But I replaced the Steelers with the Bucks, so that
Speaker 1: didn't end up mattering. You know what, It did the
Speaker 1: same thing, yeah, so that didn't end up mattering. Before
Speaker 1: we do that. A Circus survivor update real quick. This
Speaker 1: is the first week. Finally, it took six weeks, but
Speaker 1: finally we have a week that does not have carnage.
Speaker 1: Only five entries of the remaining two twenty one headed
Speaker 1: into the week are gone, and that's where it will
Speaker 1: stand because nobody's on the bills or jets tonight. Only
Speaker 1: five entries gone. So it's down to two sixteen out
Speaker 1: of the initial fourteen thousand, two one hundred and sixty six,
Speaker 1: which means the actual intrinsic value of each of the
Speaker 1: remaining two hundred and sixteen entries rises incrementally to sixty
Speaker 1: six thousand, forty six dollars and thirty cents.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to all you survived a week without much drama.
Speaker 2: That's going to be painful. To just hear every week you, uh,
Speaker 2: what the intrinsic value was up to. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, those five losses, four were on the Titans,
Speaker 1: one was on the Jaguars. Not the Jaguarars, but the Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think either the Jaguars or the
Speaker 2: Jaguars looked very good. No, they They kind of stink.
Speaker 2: Gotta stink at football. All right, you ready to do this,
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 4: Fire it up, baby, guessing lines Week seven coming at you,
Speaker 4: and it goes a little something like this, No, Mary.
Speaker 1: I had I had all kinds of stalls out. I
Speaker 1: had all kinds of stalls ready. And it goes a
Speaker 1: little something like this.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: Alright, Thursday night, buckle in Broncos at Saints.
Speaker 2: Are you serious? Yeah? Oh god, Broncos. If you need
Speaker 2: a date night or something, that's a pencil this one
Speaker 2: in this week? Hey, uh, I don't really have to
Speaker 2: watch football for you. Broncos at Saints.
Speaker 1: Broncos lose to the Charge in a game which you know,
Speaker 1: Jim Harball really didn't get to see the beginning of.
Speaker 1: He had a little bit of an issue. We're not
Speaker 1: really sure what, but we could speculate. This started with
Speaker 1: the Chargers deciding at the one yard line. This was
Speaker 1: Harball not in charge at this point. It was a
Speaker 1: combination of Mentor and Roman, their coordinators, and they decided
Speaker 1: to kick a field goal even though they're at the
Speaker 1: one yard line, so it was three to nothing Chargers.
Speaker 1: Next time they got the football though, big eighty three
Speaker 1: yard drive Herbert to Camani Vidal from thirty eight, ten
Speaker 1: to nothing Chargers. Then the next time they got the
Speaker 1: ball after a Denver punt, a twenty play drive twenty
Speaker 1: Kelly that resulted in a Cameron Dicker thirty three yardfield
Speaker 1: goal to make it thirteen to nothing, and then Javante
Speaker 1: was hit by Khalil Mackie fumbled it. Chargers got the
Speaker 1: ball back Dobbins in from four twenty to nothing, and
Speaker 1: then by halftime they got another Dicker field goal twenty
Speaker 1: three to nothing. By the way, the most incredible little
Speaker 1: like stat was thrown out casually in this. Did you
Speaker 1: know that Cameron Dicker at this point twenty three to
Speaker 1: nothing Chargers of that have fifty three for fifty three
Speaker 1: career inside the fifty yard line?
Speaker 2: Did you know that? I mean no, I didn't know
Speaker 2: those exact numbers. But he's been solid. He's been a
Speaker 2: rock solid since he's been there.
Speaker 1: I'd say fifty three out of fifty three inside of
Speaker 1: your soft fairly solid. Denver then got off the schneid.
Speaker 1: This is in the second half. Now, he played ninety
Speaker 1: five yard drive that at fourth and two at the
Speaker 1: Chargers thirty nine. Nicks to Devon Vale for thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Then Troy Franklin from two is twenty three to seven.
Speaker 1: This is ten minutes left in the game. Now at
Speaker 1: this point Chargers three and out, Denver sixty four yard drive,
Speaker 1: NICKX to Sutton from fifteen out, great one handed catch,
Speaker 1: twenty three to thirteen. Two point try fails, So again
Speaker 1: the spread is in question at this point, or at
Speaker 1: least now. With a two point try failing, there could
Speaker 1: have been a back door push, and Denver did get
Speaker 1: the ball back, and then Sean Payton correctly, as much
Speaker 1: as I hate to say it, because I wanted the
Speaker 1: back door push, he correctly opts for the Lutz forty
Speaker 1: yard field goal to cut it to seven with one
Speaker 1: ozho three left, destroying the hopes of those of us
Speaker 1: who were hoping for a back door push on side
Speaker 1: kick fails after they did declare it ballgame. Chargers win
Speaker 1: it twenty three to sixteen. So the Broncos go down
Speaker 1: New Orleans in what was a just complete track meet
Speaker 1: against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Spencer Rattler's debut his
Speaker 1: d butt if you will Kelly as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay went up in this game. Seventeen was a
Speaker 1: seventeen and nothing, No, pardon me, fourteen to nothing, and
Speaker 1: then no, it was they traded a field goals. It
Speaker 1: was seventeen to nothing and seventeen to three. Okay, they're
Speaker 1: up seventeen to nothing, and the Saints came right back
Speaker 1: groupe forty two yardfield gon'll make it seventeen to three.
Speaker 1: Camarta's punt was returned by Rashid Rahit pardon me, Rashid
Speaker 1: Shaheed fifty four yards. Made it's seventeen to ten, and
Speaker 1: then Baker got picked by Paulson Adebo that led to
Speaker 1: a group a twenty nine yardfield goal to cut it
Speaker 1: to seventeen to thirteen nine minutes left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: It's already seventeen to thirteen, and then Tampa second play
Speaker 1: on the next drive, Baker picked again by Jonathan Abram
Speaker 1: and then the first play for the Saints down seventeen
Speaker 1: to thirteen. I've learned a Bob means, you have bubb
Speaker 1: means this week.
Speaker 2: No, I did not Gil, No didn't start him in
Speaker 2: the fantasy Yeah, twenty to seventeen New Orleans, erasing the
Speaker 2: seventeen to nothing deficit.
Speaker 1: There's still eight thirty seven left in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay would come back with the drive Baker to Tucker,
Speaker 1: Seawan Tucker all over this game for thirty six. Twenty
Speaker 1: four to twenty Tampa and then New Orleans behind Spencer
Speaker 1: Ratler seven play seventy yards cameraon from four, big play
Speaker 1: to Foster Moroe for forty one. Right before that twenty
Speaker 1: seven to twenty four Saints as we go to the half,
Speaker 1: because Baker was picked off one more time before the half,
Speaker 1: which is just crazy.
Speaker 2: You ended up on the Bucks too. I was on
Speaker 2: the Bucks too. That felt like the most stressful first
Speaker 2: half of betting like ever, because of all that it
Speaker 2: was the Saints barely had the ball.
Speaker 1: And then it was no pressure at all because then
Speaker 1: the Bucks just tore them one in the third court
Speaker 1: in the third second half, starting in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. First time they got the ball, Baker to
Speaker 1: Godwin for fifty five. Terrible tackling on the playoff, Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay takes the lead thirty one to twenty seven. Later,
Speaker 1: New Orleans first play, fourth quarter, Rattler picked by Zine McCollum.
Speaker 1: That led to a Baker to Otton touchdown from eight
Speaker 1: out on a third and goal. The two point try
Speaker 1: would fail earlier on that drive, Bucky Irving an amazing
Speaker 1: thirty one yard run actually to start that drive, So
Speaker 1: Tampa's up thirty seven to twenty seven, three and out
Speaker 1: for New Orleans. They get it again, Irving in from
Speaker 1: one to end another drive forty four to twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Then Rattler was picked by Takee Smith, and then on
Speaker 1: the final drive up seventeen points, the Bucks just said,
Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna give Sean Tucker the ball
Speaker 1: every time. Tucker for thirty six, Tucker for three, Tucker
Speaker 1: for zero, took her for twelve, tuk Her for eight,
Speaker 1: Tucker for five, touchdown fifty one to twenty seven. That's
Speaker 1: how it would end. The Saints gave up, because we're
Speaker 1: talking about the Saints here. They gave up five hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety four total yards of offense.
Speaker 2: Well that didn't sound great.
Speaker 1: Kill It's not really good. Five ninety four to three
Speaker 1: zero three in the total yards column. So this is
Speaker 1: Denver at New Orleans, two teams coming off a loss.
Speaker 1: This is kind of difficult. New Orleans cannot be a
Speaker 1: three point favorite in this game.
Speaker 2: This is hard.
Speaker 1: I'll say Saints minus two and a half even with
Speaker 1: the rookie, but that's up against the Denver defense.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Saints one one and a half. Oh, I'm not as okay.
Speaker 1: I was worried that I was gonna be on the
Speaker 1: wrong favorite here.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, No, yeah, yeah, you're on the right
Speaker 2: favorite this. Uh man, this is a game I don't
Speaker 2: think I'll have anything to do with the bronc The
Speaker 2: Broncos have become a very tough team to handicap in
Speaker 2: my opinion, because the defense is solid and you don't
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get from.
Speaker 1: The offense at all. And I would say that box
Speaker 1: score from this.
Speaker 2: Weekend is very misleading because of how dominant the Chargers
Speaker 2: were in the first half and whatever you're gonna give
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, it was all in junk garbage chime in
Speaker 2: the second half. It is.
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that, because as I was watching
Speaker 1: this game, I had the thought that this is the
Speaker 1: most game script dependent team there is.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: In other words, if they go ahead, having that defense
Speaker 1: and having the ability to play conservatively with Nicks is
Speaker 1: just are you know, it's not a bad thing at all.
Speaker 1: You could actually make it work. But if you fall behind,
Speaker 1: Chargers are not you know, they're not the uh pick
Speaker 1: your favorite team of all time. They're not the ninety
Speaker 1: one Skins, right, They're not that great. But yet it's
Speaker 1: they're just it's they're hard pressed to come from way behind, right,
Speaker 1: And so I just feel that way about the Broncos.
Speaker 1: And so to your point pre flop, it's kind of
Speaker 1: difficult in a game like this because if I told you,
Speaker 1: and that's true of any NFL game, but specifically with
Speaker 1: these Broncos, the difference between them being up seven or
Speaker 1: down seven, let's make it up ten or down ten
Speaker 1: of the a half, it's massive. It feels monster with them. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't love that game.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we'll keep going. Let's go. We can get
Speaker 2: this one in London. Patriots versus Jaguars Patriot Can we
Speaker 2: get that in. I don't know if we can.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we really can't. Let's see, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean Patriots lose to the Texans. There's not much
Speaker 1: to say about that game. Texans just they went out
Speaker 1: to a fourteen to nothing lead, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of it got to a point in that game where
Speaker 1: it was it was actually fourteen to seven at the half.
Speaker 1: It got closed for a minute, but then once Houston
Speaker 1: took a twenty seven to seven lead, they just traded
Speaker 1: touchdowns for that point. On forty one twenty one Houston
Speaker 1: Drake may not bad twenty of thirty three for two
Speaker 1: forty three, three touchdowns, two picks, He was sacked four times,
Speaker 1: did lose a fumble, but the Patriots remind us three
Speaker 1: and turnovers. And then Jacksonville. What a dud performance in London.
Speaker 1: As the Bears took a fourteen to three lead at
Speaker 1: the half, Jacksonville really, I mean then it was twenty
Speaker 1: one to three. Jacksonville only got it to twenty one
Speaker 1: to ten, and then they let Caleb go right down
Speaker 1: field twenty eight to ten. And then even after they
Speaker 1: recovered to fumble, Jacksonville Trevor was picked right after that
Speaker 1: by Josh Blackwell. It ends up being thirty five to ten,
Speaker 1: excuse me, and then thirty five to sixteen some garbage
Speaker 1: points at the end. Trevor twenty three of thirty five
Speaker 1: for two thirty four in defeat New England at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: You're right, that's all it needed, Jacksonville having the rest.
Speaker 1: They get to stay in London. By the way, if
Speaker 1: they hadn't gotten I think Doug Peterson would have been
Speaker 1: fired because they stay there. He's okay for a week
Speaker 1: minus four Jacksonville minus four, five and a half for six.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's a little too much. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I have the stomach for the Patriots though. Do
Speaker 2: you want to wake up for that game?
Speaker 1: Patriots with a little lean, that's for sure. We're guessing
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Speaker 1: Always appreciated Los Vegas five to one, four yo. Despite
Speaker 1: the loss by our team, we have a bright future
Speaker 1: and a lot to look forward to, new franchise, quarterback,
Speaker 1: hopefully new stadium and Gil finally saying just Commander, well
Speaker 1: that last one's gonna be tough. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was going to say, I don't know I've ever
Speaker 2: heard that much, but yes.
Speaker 1: In defeat this is and this was a heading into
Speaker 1: the Ravens Skins game, which we'll get to in our
Speaker 1: course here guessing lines I said all last week, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the one. We won't know anything
Speaker 1: until we see them play this team and this is
Speaker 1: exactly the level that I think they are, which is
Speaker 1: they're probably on the fringe of the top ten, which
Speaker 1: is where I had them in power ratings, but they're
Speaker 1: not necessarily close.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, they played very well yesterday, but defensively they're
Speaker 1: you know, they're not going to stop team like that.
Speaker 2: I think if you're a Commander's fan, even like I
Speaker 2: know this is tough to say at a loss, that
Speaker 2: was I was still impressed.
Speaker 1: Oh I was. I was still I was totally pumped.
Speaker 1: I think every Commodore's fan was.
Speaker 2: I absolutely do.
Speaker 1: Jay Kochstein, what do you think of plus of a
Speaker 1: plus money bet on Kwan or Lane Thomas to hit
Speaker 1: a home run? This series seems like an insanely good bet.
Speaker 1: To me, this series could go seven even if it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Still looks good. Uh, Jay, I will not be on
Speaker 1: that bet. I'm not saying it's good or bad. It's
Speaker 1: just not something I'll get involved with. Did anybody catch
Speaker 1: this has nothing? By the way, the we have a
Speaker 1: double header today Mets Dodgers Game two this morning, this
Speaker 1: afternoon from Chavez Ravine and then Game one of the
Speaker 1: Yankees and the Guardians, Game one of the Alcs later today.
Speaker 1: Did anybody catch the beginning of the broadcast yesterday? Matt
Speaker 1: fast Gershon's voice didn't seem correct.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was was modulated differently, or
Speaker 1: if he was sick and they were doing something with it,
Speaker 1: but he was like his voice was like two octaves
Speaker 1: lower than it normally is. It's very strange. That's odd.
Speaker 1: We love that, we love that. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they were doing with that.
Speaker 2: I was gonna I thought you were gonna say, did
Speaker 2: anybody catch actual Game five, the elimination game that was
Speaker 2: played on Saturday morning, Someone could have given me a
Speaker 2: heads up about, Oh, Guardian's Tiger.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that that was the Lane Thomas Grand Slam
Speaker 1: that did it for the Guardians, put them ahead to
Speaker 1: stay against the Tigers in Game five. What we have
Speaker 1: today is a what has happened with the postseason? First
Speaker 1: of all, all of my matchups poof and remember every
Speaker 1: time I said I go watch this be the year
Speaker 1: that the Yankees played the Dodgers in the World Series.
Speaker 1: This has gone from a great postseason to the Dodgers
Speaker 1: making a mockery of the National League after they gave
Speaker 1: up six runs to the Padres and the third inning
Speaker 1: of Game three, Remember that was enough for the Padres
Speaker 1: to win that take a two to one lead in
Speaker 1: that series. Thirty three consecutive scoreless innings. The Dodgers have
Speaker 1: not allowed a run in thirty three consecutive scoreless innings.
Speaker 1: That matches the postseason record set by the nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: six Baltimore Orioles. The Oriols of sixty six did all
Speaker 1: of that in the World Series, but that's how dominant
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have been. Shut out the Padres after the
Speaker 1: third inning of that game, then shut them out in
Speaker 1: Games four and five, and then shut out the Mets
Speaker 1: in Game one yesterday nine to nothing. This is from
Speaker 1: NCI ninety five. Gameler I was able to get Jayden
Speaker 1: Daniels Offensive Player of the Year forty five to one
Speaker 1: at fan duel last week. He's thanking cleve Ta cleif
Speaker 1: Ta likes likes Jayden for Offensive Play of the Year,
Speaker 1: Aaron Shotz does not like a quarterback for Offensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. One voter's opinion, and Brian M. Peterson
Speaker 1: talking about Doug Peterson using half of his rest in
Speaker 1: London game planning, the other half looking at flats to
Speaker 1: just stay there after he gets fired when they somehow
Speaker 1: lose sixteen to thirteen. All right, we'll get some more
Speaker 1: retweets coming up.
Speaker 2: More games here. Week seven in the NFL, which got
Speaker 2: all right early window. This is one Eastern Seahawks at Falcons.
Speaker 2: Seahawks with the extra rest, they lose to the forty
Speaker 2: nine Ers. Last Thursday night, Gino was thirty of fifty
Speaker 2: two for three to twelve in defeat. They gave up
Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty three total yards to the Niners.
Speaker 2: That night.
Speaker 1: They were minus three a turnovers. Atlanta, it's a game
Speaker 1: that's sort of the late window. Yesterday was the afternoon window.
Speaker 1: Was kind of lame. Atlanta beat Carolina in case you
Speaker 1: missed it. After Carolina took a seven and nothing lead
Speaker 1: bjon In from five to tied at seven late late
Speaker 1: first quarter. Carolina then went up ten to seven. That
Speaker 1: would be their last lead because then after that it
Speaker 1: was bjon In from seven after Cousins hit Pits for
Speaker 1: fifty two. They ended up with a two point conversion
Speaker 1: because of a penalty. A low block by Carolina on
Speaker 1: the touchdown run, so fifteen to ten at that point
Speaker 1: six Zho three left in the second quarter. Carolina then
Speaker 1: got a punt blocked Cousins to London from three. After
Speaker 1: that twenty two to ten, and then Carolina was just
Speaker 1: in catchup mode.
Speaker 2: But they were close.
Speaker 1: They you know, they ended up the first half with
Speaker 1: a Dalton de Xavier Lagette seven yard touchdown pass on
Speaker 1: a seventy six yard drive to cut it to twenty
Speaker 1: two to seventeen. Then it was a field goal fest.
Speaker 1: It finally got to twenty eight to twenty. So here's
Speaker 1: the you know you talk about when did you know
Speaker 1: the game was done? Kind of thing that people used
Speaker 1: to run? Twenty eight to twenty Atlanta Carolina with the
Speaker 1: ball one score game second and eight at the Atlanta
Speaker 1: thirty two Dalton pick by a J. Terrell junior and
Speaker 1: that was it because then Atlanta went nine plays eighty
Speaker 1: five yards Algeran from two thirty five to twenty. That's
Speaker 1: how it would end. Thirty eight to twenty is actually
Speaker 1: how it would end. Cousins nineteen of thirty for two
Speaker 1: twenty five in victory, Algier eighteen for one to five
Speaker 1: and a touchdown Bijon fifteen for ninety five and two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Atlanta hosting Seattle. I'll say Atlanta minus three, because what
Speaker 1: else could you make that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are right on that is three. At DraftKings
Speaker 2: did see some two and a halves out there. I
Speaker 2: think they mainly got gobbled.
Speaker 1: Up though, all right, so far like New England a
Speaker 1: little in all of this. Yeah, me too, not sureman
Speaker 1: a Benett, but yeah, what's next?
Speaker 2: Me too? All right?
Speaker 1: Still in the early window. Titans at Bill's okay, Bill's
Speaker 1: sight unseen. They played tonight again small favorite against the Jets.
Speaker 1: Both Kelly and I are on Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Tonight.
Speaker 1: Tennessee loses to Indianapolis. Indian Appolis started ten play seventy
Speaker 1: yard drive Flacco to downs for twenty two touchdowns, seven
Speaker 1: and nothing. Then after at Tennessee three and out in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: Flacco second attend at his own thirty six picked by
Speaker 1: Amani Hooker. Tennessee turned that into a three play twenty
Speaker 1: seven yard drive Levis to Nick Westbrook a Keena from
Speaker 1: nine out. We're tied at seven apiece ten to seven
Speaker 1: Tennessee and then ten to ten at the half, and
Speaker 1: then the third quarter starts Tennessee fourteen play seventy seventy
Speaker 1: yard drive that took eight minutes and forty one seconds
Speaker 1: off the clock, pollared in from twenty three on third
Speaker 1: and nineteen. Wow, what a sieve of a defense on
Speaker 1: that play. Seventeen to ten Tennessee six nineteen left the
Speaker 1: third quarter. Like the Titans gonna win this football game? Yeah,
Speaker 1: not so much. Indianapolis. They got it to first and
Speaker 1: goal at the four, they had to settle for a
Speaker 1: Matt Gay twenty two yardfield goal. It's got it to
Speaker 1: seventeen to thirteen at the beginning of the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: But then after another Tennessee three and out, eleven play
Speaker 1: seventy five yard drive flaccot to Pittman Junior, who even
Speaker 1: supposed to play in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was weird.
Speaker 1: He catches a jump ball in the end zone from
Speaker 1: ten yards out, touchdown twenty to seventeen Colts halfway through
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Then later, after the team's trade three
Speaker 1: and outs, Levis on second and nine at his own
Speaker 1: thirty one pick by Julian Blackman. Then after an Indianapolis
Speaker 1: three and now Tennessee would get the ball back at
Speaker 1: their own three pitchy, pitchy, wou Wo goes nowhere? Paul
Speaker 1: Game twenty to seventeen Indianapolis, levis your boy? Yeah, sixteen
Speaker 1: of twenty seven for ninety five.
Speaker 2: Hey, as long as he keeps throwing ironts, that's all
Speaker 2: I care about. Yeah, well he did.
Speaker 1: He threw one yesterday, one touchdown, one pick, only two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty one total yards of offense for Tennessee.
Speaker 1: They also had eleven penalties for one thirteen, which ain't good.
Speaker 1: They're not good.
Speaker 2: No, they're not. Because this Colts defense has been horrible
Speaker 2: and if you you couldn't do anything at home against that,
Speaker 2: that's bad. How do you feel about this Colt? The
Speaker 2: Colts injury reporting that US people seemingly had a pretty
Speaker 2: big issue with, which I don't really know. It's just
Speaker 2: odd when it's two right, because you had Anthony richardson
Speaker 2: that it looked like he was gonna go all week
Speaker 2: it doesn't end up going. And then Michael Pittman with
Speaker 2: the back stuff where he thought he was going to
Speaker 2: be out.
Speaker 1: We thought we thought he was. We talked about it
Speaker 1: on the show earlier in the week that we thought
Speaker 1: he's out. I think if you're the cult, you have
Speaker 1: a dilemma. Right, we'll get to them, But I think
Speaker 1: you have a dilemma. It's like, are we trying to
Speaker 1: win football games? Or are we trying to see what
Speaker 1: the kid can do? Because I don't think there's any
Speaker 1: reason to say that Joe. If you say who's better
Speaker 1: for any one game right now, it's Joe Flacco, right, Yep.
Speaker 1: He's proven that he's a super Bowl champion. He had
Speaker 1: a nice five game stretch with the Browns last year.
Speaker 1: There's nothing really bad about his performance here in this victory. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you do. If you're the cults,
Speaker 1: Are you trying to make this season a season? Are
Speaker 1: you trying to mess around?
Speaker 2: Yeah? God they are somehow three and three? Well, that's right,
Speaker 2: Like I guess you can't really Yeah, you can't really
Speaker 2: throw in the towel yet, which I would think I
Speaker 2: would think means go back to Anthony Richardson, let him play.
Speaker 2: See what you got, Well that's your guy.
Speaker 1: Once they find out you own MVP taken On, I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll sway their thinking. That's right, But this isn't
Speaker 1: This isn't about Indianapolis. This is about Tennessee at Buffalo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Buffalo a sight unseen. They got to be a touchdown
Speaker 1: favorite against the Titans. Will Levis's dreadful dude. Will Levis
Speaker 1: has no accuracy, can't anticipate.
Speaker 2: He's just well.
Speaker 1: There was a great tweet from somebody. Wish I could
Speaker 1: give credit because I can't remember who it was, but
Speaker 1: they said Will Levis had something to do with the fact.
Speaker 1: They were saying it was all about potential in the
Speaker 1: first place, but there was never anything to go on.
Speaker 2: With that potential in the first place. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: I think the other one with yeah, what a couple
Speaker 2: of the others that I saw is okay, you you
Speaker 2: improved your coaching staff, improved your offensive weaponry, and somehow
Speaker 2: the quarterback is looking worse this year. That's got to
Speaker 2: be a major red flat.
Speaker 1: But you didn't improve your coaching staff. It was Mike Rabel.
Speaker 1: Should never have gotten rid of him in the first place.
Speaker 2: I think they met offensive coaching the offensive side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, downgrade from the top Buffalo minus seven hosting
Speaker 1: Tennessee eight and a half. I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: I don't either. If it was anything below seven, I
Speaker 2: would add a problem with that. Yeah, I actually put
Speaker 2: them in a swell teaser already with that side of
Speaker 2: the bills.
Speaker 1: All right, you know I usually I usually say man
Speaker 1: like way too much, but that's worked out.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks so far don't like much
Speaker 1: at all. Kind of like New England getting all those
Speaker 1: points against Jacksonville in London. We'll see many more games
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Speaker 2: All right, Sunday early window Bangles at Browns.
Speaker 1: Bangles at Browns. Oh, the old classic AFC North Battle
Speaker 1: we were all looking forward to.
Speaker 2: Before the season.
Speaker 1: Man, this looked good on paper before the season. Did
Speaker 1: you see this game?
Speaker 2: Last night?
Speaker 1: While while the Dodgers were blasting the Mets nine to
Speaker 1: nothing over there on old Sunday Night football. The Bengals
Speaker 1: and Giants were playing what's the opposite.
Speaker 2: Of a masterpiece? Hmm.
Speaker 1: First of all, first drive of the game, Cincinnati goes eight,
Speaker 1: play sixty nine yards. Burrow in from forty seven.
Speaker 2: That was incredible.
Speaker 1: And when I say in from forty seven, I want
Speaker 1: to say that the half the football field was abandoned
Speaker 1: by all humanity and he just ran with everybody on
Speaker 1: the other side of the field. Seven to nothing Bengals
Speaker 1: just three and a half minutes into this ball game,
Speaker 1: and you're like, ah, this.
Speaker 2: Is gonna be a great game. Here's the rest of
Speaker 2: the fear. It was so bad Gil Like, somebody asked
Speaker 2: me if that was it was a designed run for
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, and I immediately laughed, like no. But then
Speaker 2: you see the replay and it's like, well, Joe Burrow's mind,
Speaker 2: he might have been thinking that way, like I'm taking
Speaker 2: off if all these guys go with.
Speaker 1: Them after a Giants punt in Cincinnati three and now
Speaker 1: this is the only other interesting part of the first
Speaker 1: half was the Giants actually got it first intent at
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati fourteen, Daniel Jones shunned his first read which
Speaker 1: was a dump off to Tyrone Tracy and you're instead
Speaker 1: he waited too long. He was hit by bj Hill
Speaker 1: ball high in the air, picked by Jermaine Pratt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's the rest of the half.
Speaker 2: You're ready.
Speaker 1: Team Strade punts Cincinnati three and out. Team Strade punts,
Speaker 1: team straight, three and ounce halftime. It's a very exciting game.
Speaker 1: Then in the second half, Giants go on fourth and
Speaker 1: two incomplete. Cincinnati is like, oh wow, we're set up
Speaker 1: at the twenty six yard line of the Giants first
Speaker 1: and ten. Zach Moss hit Biocarake fumbles, Michael McFadden recovers.
Speaker 1: Then the Giants do go sixteen plays, seventy nine yards
Speaker 1: and six to forty five. They convert a fourth and
Speaker 1: two and a fourth and one along the way. P
Speaker 1: I in the end zone helped Tyrone Tracy in from one.
Speaker 1: We are tied at seven with five forty eight left
Speaker 1: of the third quarter.
Speaker 2: First home.
Speaker 1: What is that the first home touchdown for the Giants
Speaker 1: this year?
Speaker 2: Oh man? Is that detail correct?
Speaker 1: Wow? Cincinnati got to third and goal at the one.
Speaker 1: Now tie game seven apiece. Remember the spread is what
Speaker 1: Bengals minus four in this game?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Three and a half four four, well even got
Speaker 2: four and a half closed it.
Speaker 1: All right, So it's seven to seven. Cincinnati got the
Speaker 1: third and goal to one, A holding call negated it
Speaker 1: would be touchdown, so they had to settle for McPherson
Speaker 1: thirty seven yard field goal ten to seven Cincinnati closing
Speaker 1: seconds of the third quarter. Then the Giants fourth and
Speaker 1: one at the Cincinnati forty six, Jones snuck for the
Speaker 1: for the first down.
Speaker 2: It was the past ten. I was just thinking, as
Speaker 2: you say snuck or sneaked, this was a sneak play
Speaker 2: in this context.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so they get it, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But they end up having to get a Joseph forty
Speaker 1: seven yard field goal a try he misses. Remember there's
Speaker 1: a new holder here, Jamie Gillan. The punter couldn't be
Speaker 1: the holder here, so we had a different sort of
Speaker 1: you know what do they call it in baseball? Pitcher
Speaker 1: and catcher battery, different holder. So it's still ten to seven,
Speaker 1: but Giants got the ball back fourth and three at
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati thirty six, incomplete intended for Slayton, with three
Speaker 1: to zero one left in the fourth quarter. Ten to seven.
Speaker 1: Bengals now if you're a Bengals backer, you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is probably not a good thing because three to
Speaker 1: zho one left in the fourth, I don't know if
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to matriculate the ball down the
Speaker 1: field and get a field goal. Maybe we will since
Speaker 1: it Naty ends up third and twelve at their own
Speaker 1: thirty four Burrow a ridiculous against his body completion to Ioshavas.
Speaker 1: Then the next play, Chase Brown fumbles. The Giants have
Speaker 1: every chance to recover and they can't. It goes out
Speaker 1: of bounds. So this is just this is the ultimate
Speaker 1: plinko finish to this game. Next play, of course, what
Speaker 1: happens Brown in from thirty seventeen to seven Bengals just
Speaker 1: it's just incredible the plink onness of this really, of
Speaker 1: all plays. If you're if you're a Giants backer, you're like,
Speaker 1: he had to get out, he had to house it.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah he did?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Seventeen to seven Giants did the exact same thing Sean
Speaker 1: Payton did.
Speaker 2: Earlier in the day.
Speaker 1: They decided to kick the field goal first when they
Speaker 1: got in a field goal range, but Joseph with the
Speaker 1: different holder misses the forty five yard or Katie bar
Speaker 1: the or it's over. Bengals win it seventeen to seven,
Speaker 1: and somehow, after being just absolutely terrible in this game
Speaker 1: and giving the Giants every time the Giants give him
Speaker 1: a chance, the Bengals couldn't capitalize. Every time the Bengals
Speaker 1: would like, put the ball on the ground, here you go,
Speaker 1: take it. Take this game. The Giants couldn't recover it,
Speaker 1: and then Chase Brown houses it. Bengals somehow cover seventeen
Speaker 1: to seven in victory, and then Cleveland. Cleveland actually looked
Speaker 1: a little I mean, I don't even want to say
Speaker 1: they looked a little feisty. The reason they looked a
Speaker 1: little feisty is because they were able to tie this
Speaker 1: game at ten apiece at the very end of the
Speaker 1: first half because Jake Elliott up ten to three, had
Speaker 1: a fifty seven yard field goal try blocked by Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett returned by Rodney McLeod fifty yards to the residence
Speaker 1: yep ten ten a half time, but.
Speaker 2: He easily could have been thirteen three, right exactly.
Speaker 1: It ends up thirteen to thirteen. Philadelphia four plays, seventy
Speaker 1: yard drive hurts the DeVonta Smith for forty five, twenty
Speaker 1: to thirteen halfway about halfway through the fourth quarter. Then
Speaker 1: Hopkins thirty one yard field goal after getting here's the thing,
Speaker 1: it's thirteen killing. Now, if you have a chance to
Speaker 1: cut a one score lead to a one score lead,
Speaker 1: you always take that opportunity. But here's the thing, Clee.
Speaker 1: They ended up with a Hopkins thirty one yard field
Speaker 1: goal after getting it to the Philadelphia three, but then
Speaker 1: ended up with two false start penalties that sent them backwards.
Speaker 1: So with three point fifty four left, Stefan's game. By
Speaker 1: the way, Deshaun was six of six on this drive
Speaker 1: and he was eleven for eleven and a half at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 2: Was it two false starts or a delayed game? In
Speaker 2: a false start?
Speaker 1: I thought there was a delayed game. I thought it
Speaker 1: was two false starts. Yeah, anyway, Stefanski decides, well, it's
Speaker 1: the fourth and goal now is way too long. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna kick the field goal. They never saw the ball again.
Speaker 1: Philadelphi would run out the clock. Philly wins at twenty
Speaker 1: to sixteen, and that, by the way, is why there
Speaker 1: was no carnage and survivor. Because Philadelphia was easily the
Speaker 1: most picked team and they just get by in this one.
Speaker 1: Philly is not good, Dallas is not good. Washington is
Speaker 1: the cream of the crop of the NFC East.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I had to get that in little editorially. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Was it Cincinnati at Cleveland?
Speaker 2: Yep? Okay.
Speaker 1: This is another one that's impossible to make this line.
Speaker 1: This is a brutal line.
Speaker 2: What do I mean?
Speaker 1: Both teams are god awful, but the Bengals are a
Speaker 1: little less god awful. But they can't be three, right,
Speaker 1: I said, Bengals minus two.
Speaker 2: And a half, you're a little lights four and a half. Oh,
Speaker 2: I don't think they deserve that, do they? I agree
Speaker 2: with you, But man, this is another one. You're going
Speaker 2: with the Browns.
Speaker 1: No, But I'm just saying four and a I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not betting this game was How is four and
Speaker 1: a half seems as random as my two and a half.
Speaker 1: It's an impossible game to make a line for Cincinnati
Speaker 1: looked terrible last night. Giants might not suck by the way.
Speaker 1: Giants are pretty yeah, John, Giants are not bad. Giants
Speaker 1: are not bad, so maybe I shouldn't say that. But
Speaker 1: Cleveland played Philly no worse than I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: like Cleveland was. Oh, they were fine yesterday, they didn't
Speaker 1: get blown out. Let's put it that Deshaun Watson his
Speaker 1: best half of football that he's had this year.
Speaker 2: I gosh, you, I mean, you're right about that half.
Speaker 2: But four and a half I struggle with that. Why
Speaker 2: is jamis not in whatever it was? One half? He
Speaker 2: didn't do anything, He didn't win the game.
Speaker 1: Two hundred and thirty million reasons? Why so at Cincinnati
Speaker 1: minus four and a half. Why that's interesting to me? Okay,
Speaker 1: want to do one more?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. Texans at Packers. Let's skip a pass.
Speaker 2: Let's hear it past Dolph. Okay, we don't have to
Speaker 2: talk about that. That's easy. Miami because Miami was on
Speaker 2: a bye. Correct.
Speaker 1: And Indianapolis we talked about having staved off the Titans
Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen. Flacco in victory, Joe Flacco twenty two
Speaker 1: of thirty eight for one eighty nine, two touchdowns, one pick.
Speaker 2: He was not sacked.
Speaker 1: Man, Who's the worst team in football? Is that the Titans?
Speaker 2: Is it the Browns? Is it the Dolphins? Sorry Dolphins fans,
Speaker 2: but you're in the conversation Indiananthers, Pampa and then there's
Speaker 2: the Panthers, of course, Indianapolis minus three. This is Colts
Speaker 2: three and a half.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's about the amount of excitement I have, even
Speaker 1: more disrespectful than I thought. Yeah, this this one in
Speaker 1: the last one. I'm not even though there's you know,
Speaker 1: perceived value, I'm not racing like I would the Patriots.
Speaker 2: I like, still better. Are the Colts really five and one? Ats? Wow?
Speaker 2: Well the expectation is so low on these lines. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I was surprised that they're three and three
Speaker 2: straight up.
Speaker 1: Now are we getting to it? We don't know if
Speaker 1: we're getting to what's the story is?
Speaker 2: This is?
Speaker 4: This is?
Speaker 1: This is the last game where two is not allowed
Speaker 1: to play. I've lost count.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't think. I mean,
Speaker 2: I haven't heard anything about two coming back anytime soon. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm just talking about the ir was he had
Speaker 1: to miss for it window? Yeah, Colts minus three and
Speaker 1: a half? Tick higher than I would have expected. We'll
Speaker 1: come back more Sunday morning games, including the one we
Speaker 1: just passed over Houston at Green Bay. Looking for value.
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Speaker 1: from sly Bride DJ Slybriye. Thanks to Gil, I'm now
Speaker 1: stuck saying to myself, I do declare like fal Corn
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Thanks, Gil, appreciate. It's because they use the
Speaker 1: word declare, and I've just imagined that they have to.
Speaker 1: They should have to say it like that.
Speaker 2: See. I like the generational thinking because I always think
Speaker 2: if I hear the word declare, I think Michael Scott yelling,
Speaker 2: I declare bankruptcy.
Speaker 1: Oh no, do declaire Rhodes. Who has it worse the
Speaker 1: cowboys of the Jaguars. That's a great question. What you're
Speaker 1: referring to. I imagine Rhodes is the albatross that is
Speaker 1: the mega salary around their respective quarterbacks, and the what
Speaker 1: that does is hamper ham string your salary cap moving forward.
Speaker 1: And so I don't know the answer. I mean, again,
Speaker 1: it's really bad.
Speaker 2: But this is this again.
Speaker 1: We've said it a million times on this show. This
Speaker 1: is the cruelty of the economics in the National Football
Speaker 1: League where teams are forced at that point, once the
Speaker 1: rookie deal is over and it's coming to an end,
Speaker 1: they've got to decide do we pay because the market
Speaker 1: means it's a nine figure deal for these guys. Do
Speaker 1: we keep the guy we have or do we start
Speaker 1: from scratch to the quarterback. And the problem is is
Speaker 1: that you don't often know after those four or five
Speaker 1: years if that's in fact a guy that can lead
Speaker 1: you to the super Bowl, because remember, the only quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that lead you to a super Bowl are what Hall
Speaker 1: of famers and guys on rookie deals who overperformed their
Speaker 1: rookie deal.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: But if you have one of these tweener guys like
Speaker 1: a Dack and like a Trevor and like a Cousin's.
Speaker 2: I'll still say, I all answer that question, I'd still
Speaker 2: much rather be the Dallas Cowboys than the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 2: Just beyond that thing.
Speaker 1: Though, I mean a franchise owner, Yes, I'd rather.
Speaker 2: Have Dak over over Lawrence. And I think there are
Speaker 2: as much as we want to sit here and say,
Speaker 2: the only thing that works with the Cowboys offense is
Speaker 2: Dack to Seed Lamb. At least it works, right. They
Speaker 2: both might be overpaid, but at least it works. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Problem is their general manager slash owner Matthew Mayberry. If
Speaker 1: the Giants recover that Brown fumble, I win my fantasy match. Instead,
Speaker 1: he scores a touchdown and I lose for the second
Speaker 1: time this year on the last playoff Sun and End Football,
Speaker 1: Thanks Drake London and Chase Brown. Matthew Mayberry is speaking
Speaker 1: for every player who's ever played Fantasy in any week
Speaker 1: where they get hosed. Angular Rhythm. Tom Stefan haven't seen
Speaker 1: touchdown run like Burrow since Steve bonos seventy five yard
Speaker 1: touchdown run years ago. I still remember the offensive lineman
Speaker 1: twenty yards downfield looking for someone to block.
Speaker 2: That was incredible. It was I don't like I kind
Speaker 2: of laughed after, you know, at first two, but you're like, man,
Speaker 2: Burrow's got some wheels and he looks like he is
Speaker 2: running as fast as he possibly can, and it was impressive.
Speaker 1: Charlie d Usa number one gil I was ready to
Speaker 1: yell out I do declare in the Giants game last night,
Speaker 1: but they missed the field goal.
Speaker 2: Lol.
Speaker 1: And let me just say this tweet last night from
Speaker 1: somebody after that game. Would I have kicked? Was that
Speaker 1: the right move for them to kick the field goal
Speaker 1: the Giants to cut it to a one score game
Speaker 1: even though they missed the field goal. And I think
Speaker 1: just like in the Sean Payton the Broncos game earlier, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is the proper thing to do. The only calculus
Speaker 1: that the Giants would would The only way you get
Speaker 1: me off that is that you could say that we
Speaker 1: already saw that the Giants missed a field goal with
Speaker 1: the new holder earlier, and so maybe you don't. That's
Speaker 1: the only sort of counter argument. But if it's the same,
Speaker 1: you know, if all things being equal, you absolutely cut
Speaker 1: it to one score at that point, because otherwise you'll
Speaker 1: waste all your time trying to get the first score
Speaker 1: and then you have no chance whatsoever.
Speaker 2: And Craig Joseph only three for six beyond forty yards
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go to early games still on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Good one Texans at Packers. Texans at Packers. Ooh, that
Speaker 1: is a good game. That's a good game, real good Texans.
Speaker 1: We didn't really talk about because it wasn't really much
Speaker 1: to talk about, but they took a big lead against
Speaker 1: New England. They just sort of traded touchdowns down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Stroud was twenty of thirty one for one to ninety
Speaker 1: two in that game, three touchdowns, one pick, Joe Mixon
Speaker 1: thirteen for one oh two in a touchdown.
Speaker 2: They were plus three in turnovers. Running backs matter, gil
Speaker 2: to mixing being backs big, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does matter. And then there's green Bay. Green
Speaker 1: Bay wins yesterday, easy peasy in their game against Arizona
Speaker 1: late first quarter or actually, you know, not late first
Speaker 1: quarter but early first quarter, but a couple drives have
Speaker 1: already happened. Green Bay five plays, forty four yards loved
Speaker 1: to Jaden Reid from five out, seven to nothing green Bay.
Speaker 1: After Arizona punt, green Bay eleven plays eighty yards love
Speaker 1: to Dobbs Romeo Dobbs, that is, from ten, fourteen to nothing,
Speaker 1: Arizona three and out. Narvisen would make a thirty six
Speaker 1: yard field goal seventeen to nothing, Arizona three and out.
Speaker 1: Then Green Bay first play loved to Watson Christian Watson
Speaker 1: for forty four wide open, twenty four to nothing Packers.
Speaker 1: At this point in the game, with four thirty two
Speaker 1: left in the second quarter, the first downs were thirteen
Speaker 1: to one and the total yards were two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty one to thirty four. That's that's not good anyway.
Speaker 1: You don't really know need to know about the rest
Speaker 1: of the game. Thirty four to thirteen. The Packers would
Speaker 1: sort of cruise from there, I will say green Bay.
Speaker 2: By three.
Speaker 1: In a hook, I'll say three and a half over Houston.
Speaker 2: On the other side, it is two and a half. Ooh, okay,
Speaker 2: I think I like the pack then I think those
Speaker 2: are disappearing though two and a half. There are threes
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, give me the two if I can
Speaker 2: find a two and a half, Yeah, I think you might.
Speaker 2: You might need to need to be running to make
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: My very pristine top ten power rankings, which look beautiful
Speaker 1: from week to week these days, has both of these
Speaker 1: teams very high. But I'm a little hi, I'm a
Speaker 1: little higher on green Bay at this point. Remate like
Speaker 1: right now, right now.
Speaker 2: You said, Okay, who's in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's somewhere between Minnesota fans are gonna hate me
Speaker 1: for yeah, I know, but it's somewhere between the Niners,
Speaker 1: the Packers, and the Lions. Yes, And I think the
Speaker 1: Vikings are like Vikings in Washington are that tier right below?
Speaker 1: I think Washington's another tier but okay below Minnesota. Yeah, yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'll fight you, but I do. Let's put it this way.
Speaker 1: I think the Lions, Niners, and Packers are the cream
Speaker 1: of the crop. Minnesota hasn't. I mean, there's no counter
Speaker 1: argument to Minnesota currently.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 1: But that's my hunch that those are the three best
Speaker 1: teams I agree with, and I just think green Bay's
Speaker 1: now in the AFC, Houston's five and one. There's there's
Speaker 1: not much bad you can say about them, But I
Speaker 1: just without Nico Collins, they look a little diminished to me.
Speaker 2: Nkos you wouldn't.
Speaker 1: See it against New England, but I do feel that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a feeling I'll be staying away from
Speaker 2: this one. I'm a little bit higher on Houston. I'm
Speaker 2: right there with you at green Bay. I mean, I think,
Speaker 2: without a doubt green Bay. As far as the good teams,
Speaker 2: green Bay and Minnesota have been the most impressive on
Speaker 2: the season. Let's do one more here, all right, Lions
Speaker 2: at Vikings, Oh there you go. Well we'll learn a
Speaker 2: lot here.
Speaker 1: Detroit crushes Dallas, I mean crushes him forty seven to
Speaker 1: nine a game that the only thing that went right
Speaker 1: for Dallas early was after they were up three to
Speaker 1: nothing on an Aubrey field goal. Well, they were up
Speaker 1: three to nothing, largely because on that drive, Dowdell caught
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard There was a fifteen yard played Dowdell
Speaker 1: which deflected off another receiver, and then Dak had an
Speaker 1: interception nullified by penalty. So that's the only reason why
Speaker 1: they were able to get a three to nothing lead.
Speaker 1: Then it was all Detroit.
Speaker 2: Detroit.
Speaker 1: Montgomery great run in from sixteen golf to Tim Patrick
Speaker 1: for forty two. Two plays before that seven to three,
Speaker 1: Dallas would matriculate, but third and five of the Detroit seven,
Speaker 1: Dak was picked in the end zone by Brian Branch.
Speaker 1: It get to ten to three Detroit. Then a three
Speaker 1: play drive golf to Laporter from fifty two off a
Speaker 1: flea flicker seventeen to three. Later in this game, by
Speaker 1: the way, they tried to do a lateral to a
Speaker 1: Pine Sewol, but that guy nullified. It was twenty to three,
Speaker 1: then twenty seven to three, then twenty seven to six
Speaker 1: at the half, and it was just more of the
Speaker 1: same in the second half. Five play seventy yards go
Speaker 1: off to Jamison Williams for thirty seven to make it
Speaker 1: thirty four to six. Then then the worst part of
Speaker 1: the game for Detroit, I really I kind of buried
Speaker 1: the headline. It was a pyrrhic victory for Detroit because
Speaker 1: these at twenty excuse me, at thirty four to six.
Speaker 1: This is in the fourth quarter. The second play on
Speaker 1: the ensuing drive, Aiden Hutchinson sacks Dak, but his leg
Speaker 1: sort of whipsaws against a teammate. Gruesome breaking of the
Speaker 1: leg carted off and that was really kind of a
Speaker 1: pall over the rest of this game. Detroit ends up
Speaker 1: winning at forty seven to nine, a four eighty six
Speaker 1: to two point fifty one total yards advantage plus five
Speaker 1: and turnovers. I left out a couple more turnovers by
Speaker 1: Dallas late won on a Dack pick again to Brian
Speaker 1: Branch won on a Cooper rush pass that was picked
Speaker 1: by Kirby Joseph just plus five and turnovers. My god,
Speaker 1: forty seven to nine Detroit at Minnesota. These these spreads
Speaker 1: are hard.
Speaker 2: To make this week. Some of these, I say, pick them.
Speaker 2: I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 1: Vikings two point favorites. Yeah, this should be interesting. I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be on Detroit.
Speaker 2: I did so. I've only made two bets so far.
Speaker 2: I tied, but I brought up the bills earlier as
Speaker 2: a teaser leg I went I do that early if
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make those involving a Monday night game, right
Speaker 2: they obviously they play tonight. I think you need to
Speaker 2: go a little bit lighter on if you're gonna make bets,
Speaker 2: because injuries can happen. But I did. I did a
Speaker 2: Lions bills teaser teased up the Lions. Yea, it was
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: I thought this would be a little closer to a
Speaker 1: pick them. The Aiden Hutchinson thing is interesting because again
Speaker 1: we say that beyond quarterbacks, very few players in this
Speaker 1: league matter to a spread, and we don't really know
Speaker 1: the impact of him being out yet. Yeah, it's having
Speaker 1: a great year.
Speaker 2: Two that was terrible and gruesome and just awful.
Speaker 1: Two good games though, Man, Houston, Green Bay and Detroit Minnesota.
Speaker 1: There you go, There you go, NFL there or something
Speaker 1: if that used to green Bay stays two and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm all over green Bay coming back right here. In
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Speaker 1: If this weather, if this this moment in time of
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Speaker 1: real estate would be ten times the value. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not miserable outside, but you could still go to the pool,
Speaker 1: or you know, go.
Speaker 2: Play actual tennis. Who played tennis with?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay? Oh okay. It's like, why didn't you mention? I
Speaker 2: don't know if we wanted to. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we wanted to mean to tell Okay, we get tweets
Speaker 2: at beating the book.
Speaker 1: By the way, I made two bets, already just made
Speaker 1: them New England plus six against Jacksonville in London, and
Speaker 1: I bet Houston excuse me, Green Bay, pardon me minus
Speaker 1: two and a half hosting the Houston Texans.
Speaker 2: Still out there like it?
Speaker 1: Okay, those are in the old account courtesy of the
Speaker 1: first hour of guessing lines. We'll get to more here
Speaker 1: momentarily looking for more value. Maybe we will find some,
Speaker 1: maybe we won't, but first we get tweets. This is
Speaker 1: from Shades of Mako Shades of Maco. Do you recall
Speaker 1: the average circum million's quarterly record for the five week quarters?
Speaker 1: I know sixteen and four was noted as a low
Speaker 1: winning record for the first four week quarters. Yeah, sixteen
Speaker 1: and four was the lowest ever winning I think for
Speaker 1: a four week quarter, and that makes sense based on
Speaker 1: everything we learned and lived through in the first four
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, Survivor being the greatest barometer of
Speaker 1: that sixteen and four eight This is amazing. If you
Speaker 1: think about it, you gotta go. I don't know the
Speaker 1: answer to your question. I don't know the numbers, but
Speaker 1: you have to go like twenty two and three kind
Speaker 1: of thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, yeah, you think it's the average? Is
Speaker 2: that high?
Speaker 1: I was actually a winner? Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: twenty one and four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I was thinking, like, because they go
Speaker 2: by the points, right, so I was gonna think I
Speaker 2: was thinking twenty and a half to twenty one average,
Speaker 2: but be on the low side. You might be on
Speaker 2: the eye side.
Speaker 1: It might be right there to well, I think you're right.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably around twenty and a half or
Speaker 1: twenty one and four. I mean, that's the thing is,
Speaker 1: there's no margin for error.
Speaker 2: I'm on pay skill. What are only only three more
Speaker 2: weeks to go?
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, if the Bills win tonight, I'm
Speaker 1: eight and two and I'm still not.
Speaker 2: Really doing that great nine. If I'll have a nine
Speaker 2: in one if the Bills get home tonight.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, you are definitely on pace then yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Kelly Biddlin, Manda beat.
Speaker 2: This always happens. Does this happen to you too? Where
Speaker 2: you get the how long we had two years or
Speaker 2: three years?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: With the five week quarters? Yeah, I get off to
Speaker 2: a great quarterly start, but it's always like two weeks
Speaker 2: and it's always in a five week always the five
Speaker 2: week one. Always.
Speaker 1: Brian m would be pouring out of forty for Chrissy
Speaker 1: or a seven to fifty of men a chefit.
Speaker 2: So good call, good call.
Speaker 1: This from Jed O'Connor. I hear Ryan Tannehills looking for
Speaker 1: a job. Wonder if Tennessee would be a fit, You're
Speaker 1: not kidding, man. And then Kevin Ryan Rode king KR.
Speaker 1: He says, like Gil, why is everyone dumping on Sean Payton?
Speaker 1: I totally agreed with the field goal decision, and it
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the fact I had Broncos
Speaker 1: teased up to plus eight and a half. It was
Speaker 1: completely the right call. There is no bigger critic of
Speaker 1: Sean Payton than me, but it was completely the right
Speaker 1: call for them. And then Ryan Tajirdsma, who says a
Speaker 1: Vikings fan here, but I agree with you about the
Speaker 1: NFC Packers, Lions, Niners are the top tier. Viking sample
Speaker 1: size too small to elevate them to that tier. That's
Speaker 1: from Ryan to Jeers.
Speaker 2: Viking very rational.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think most Vikings fans are probably rational. Oh
Speaker 1: is there one more here, Trip Tepper? How significant is
Speaker 1: NFL first half scoring? Small sample? But the team leading
Speaker 1: at halftime is sixty four and twenty three straight up,
Speaker 1: including ten and one in Week six. Only four games
Speaker 1: tied at half this year, something worth monitoring for in
Speaker 1: game or second half betting. Well, they're obviously going to
Speaker 1: have a winning record straight up because they have the lead,
Speaker 1: But what you're saying is it's a very significantly high
Speaker 1: one that there's not a lot of comebacks.
Speaker 2: Here is the point.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is compared to other years,
Speaker 1: but I will say this just based on based on
Speaker 1: yesterday's games, that ten and one, just just even not
Speaker 1: even thinking about what the scores were, it completely checks
Speaker 1: out in your brain because there was not a lot
Speaker 1: of drama yesterday this week at all.
Speaker 2: I loved it, but yes, not a lot of drama.
Speaker 2: The other one that kind of stuck out to me,
Speaker 2: that's similar, Gill, like, did you know I type up
Speaker 2: all these the trends and everything each week? How about
Speaker 2: away teams ATS fifty one, thirty six and four? Yeah,
Speaker 2: home field? Is they not really predictive? None of this is.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really predictive, but it's interesting. Last
Speaker 1: one Mantis Toboggan Ooh, I like that. Would the Jazz sunny?
Speaker 1: Would the je trade Trevor? I'd like to see him
Speaker 1: with a fresh star, fresh start in a Brown's uniform.
Speaker 1: Now we have gibberish there, but I will tell you
Speaker 1: the trade he's you know what, the trade he purposes.
Speaker 1: The trade he purposes is Deshaun Watson, hold on, then
Speaker 1: he puts a laugh emoji next to it. Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: Amani Cooper, and Denzel Ward for Trevor for Trevor Lords,
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars if you say the who says
Speaker 1: no thing? I think the Jaguars are like, wait, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, you're giving me Deshaun Watson, Amani Cooper and
Speaker 1: Denzel Ward for Trevor Lords, I'll do And then as
Speaker 1: soon as they're about to say I'll do it, they go, wait,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Oh, never mind, a lot of money to
Speaker 1: figure out because of that other stuff. Yeah, okay, we'll
Speaker 1: get some more tweets coming up. Let's let's find some
Speaker 1: more value, all.
Speaker 2: Right, early windows still Eagles at Giants.
Speaker 1: Good Eagles, as we talked about, beat the Browns, hurts
Speaker 1: Jalen that is sixteen for twenty five for two sixty
Speaker 1: four in victory a j.
Speaker 2: Brown.
Speaker 1: Wow, he made he does make a difference for this team,
Speaker 1: six for one, sixteen in a touch. They held Cleveland
Speaker 1: to two hundred and forty four total yards.
Speaker 2: But you know it's not saying that much.
Speaker 1: And then the Giants, as we talked about, they lose
Speaker 1: to the Bengals and somehow don't cover Daniel Jones twenty
Speaker 1: two of forty one for two h five and a pick.
Speaker 1: Eleven carries for fifty six yards. Talking about the Bills
Speaker 1: best play is, you know, just tucking the ball under
Speaker 1: with Josh Allen with apologies to Tyrone Tracy Junior. Giants'
Speaker 1: best play is still Daniel Jones tucking in. But Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones takes so many hits. Oh my god, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: For like a couple of years now, that's been their
Speaker 1: best thing. And yes, he takes so many years. He's
Speaker 1: also coming off like a leg injury, like you can't.
Speaker 2: He just didn't. The defense has been impressive though for
Speaker 2: New York.
Speaker 1: This team's been This team has been significantly better than
Speaker 1: I thought Gil and how many wins they have this
Speaker 1: is This is another really hard spread. This week has
Speaker 1: been the toughest spreads to make. This is another tough one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a tough week. I have many bets.
Speaker 1: Yesterday Philly minus two and a half.
Speaker 2: He says three and a half other side of the three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, I mean again, this is one of those
Speaker 1: where I'd say value on the Giants. I'm I'm racing
Speaker 1: to bettt I'm not, but I don't see how the
Speaker 1: Eagles are justified being more than three against this is
Speaker 1: This is a lot of muscle memory, this market on
Speaker 1: the on the Eagles, They're not good. They're really not
Speaker 1: that good at football, the Philadelphia Eagles. So that seems
Speaker 1: a little high to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm gonna give them a little bit more
Speaker 2: time to get there. Let their weapons are back now,
Speaker 2: you know, the wide receivers are back. Let's see how
Speaker 2: this team looks. I'm gonna give them a little bit
Speaker 2: more time. But yeah, they're definitely they definitely got some
Speaker 2: warning signs, that's for sure. Next, all right, heading to
Speaker 2: the late window. Four five Eastern Raiders at Rams.
Speaker 1: I do like when the London games happen. That again,
Speaker 1: there's fewer games in that opening window to deal.
Speaker 2: With, to watch more of them. Raiders at Rams.
Speaker 1: Raiders, Oh God, Raiders at Rams. Rams are gonna have
Speaker 1: extra rest here. The Raiders lose to Pittsburgh. This game
Speaker 1: is just I didn't even know what to say about
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Throw them into the conversation about.
Speaker 2: Who's the worst team in football? Good call ye.
Speaker 1: Boswell fifty two yarder to make it three to nothing Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: But then when the Raiders got the ball, ten places
Speaker 1: seventy yard drive Alexander Madison in from three touchdown seven
Speaker 1: to three Raiders. Later Boswell would cut it to seven
Speaker 1: to six on a forty nine yarder, and then later
Speaker 1: still later, Vegas second and seven at their own thirty
Speaker 1: Dylan Lobby hit by TJ. Watt fumbles Keanu Ben recovers
Speaker 1: set up at the Las Vegas thirty. Pittsburgh then had
Speaker 1: a roughing the passer penalty go against Fields that nullified
Speaker 1: a would be pick. Instead, Fields would take it in
Speaker 1: fourth and goal from the three to two point drive
Speaker 1: fils twelve to seven Pittsburgh into the half. Then aj
Speaker 1: Cole would have a punt block to begin the second half.
Speaker 1: At the end of the Raiders first drive, recovered by
Speaker 1: Chris Smith, Pittsburgh set up at the Vegas nine, they
Speaker 1: would have to settle for a Boswell field goal thirty
Speaker 1: seven yarder fifteen to seven. So Pittsburgh basically with all
Speaker 1: these opportunities, it's like.
Speaker 2: Hey still in the game. Take it from us.
Speaker 1: Vegas couldn't Las Vegas couldn't have blige Pittsburgh next time
Speaker 1: they had the ball. Seven plays, eighty yards nase In
Speaker 1: from thirty six maybe the best run of his career.
Speaker 1: Maybe great run twenty two to seven Pittsburgh that he
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be good? Right, Oh, yes we did.
Speaker 1: That's the first non Justin Fields rushing touchdown for Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: That done, nausey run.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Then Las Vegas after a O'Connell to Madison would be
Speaker 1: touchdown pass was nullified by penalty.
Speaker 2: Two plays later, third and goal at the one.
Speaker 1: A mir Abdulla hit by wat fumbles, Deshaun Elliott recovers.
Speaker 1: Oh god, next time Las Vegas had the ball again. Still,
Speaker 1: what's the score? Twenty two to seven? Still Las Vegas
Speaker 1: third and nineteen at their own four. O'Connell picked by
Speaker 1: Dante Jackson, Field's first play in from seven, twenty nine
Speaker 1: to seven. The game would end thirty two to thirteen.
Speaker 1: The Raiders stink minus three in turnovers in this game
Speaker 1: for Las Vegas. The Rams are off extra rest. I'll
Speaker 1: say the Rams minus four and a half.
Speaker 2: Rams five and a half. Okay, that dead zone, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm probably low. The UH Steelers fans UH successfully took
Speaker 2: over Las Vegas once again yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh boh wow, we knew that was coming. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: By the way, I was, I was best fan base
Speaker 1: in football. They're the They're the you know, I say that,
Speaker 1: they they're the fan base that travels the best. But
Speaker 1: then Pittsburgh people quickly correct me and say, no, it's
Speaker 1: just that we've proliferate, Like Pittsburgh native Yinsers live all
Speaker 1: over the country, and so that's why, because we're everywhere,
Speaker 1: they will say. But with Las Vegas all all the
Speaker 1: you know, opposing fan bases come in, you knew that
Speaker 1: it was gonna be overrun by Steelers fans. And yesterday morning,
Speaker 1: three hours before that game, I was outside and it
Speaker 1: was nothing.
Speaker 2: But still wild. Yeah. I was on the strip. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, it is nothing but Steelers fans out wild. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to do one more here. Uh we'd start
Speaker 1: one yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Let's not no, let's not no. Should we no? Too late?
Speaker 1: By the way, I just want to say this though,
Speaker 1: not not only do I like New England and I
Speaker 1: already bet New England and uh, Green Bay. So far,
Speaker 1: there's a lot that I kind of lean but I
Speaker 1: don't really necessarily like again, I lean a little Detroit
Speaker 1: not doing that lean a little bit with the with
Speaker 1: the the Browns just because they're getting so much. But
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not racing a bet that.
Speaker 2: I'm very interested to see where that Detroit Minnesota line
Speaker 2: moves throughout the week. Yes, because I don't really know.
Speaker 2: I don't really know I tied. I tied Detroit to
Speaker 2: a teaser early, but I wouldn't be surprised if that
Speaker 2: moved either way.
Speaker 1: This is also definitely just so far, been the hardest
Speaker 1: week to make lines for. Again, Denver, New Orleans was difficult.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and the Giants is a tough one to make
Speaker 1: a line for. Cincinnati Cleveland is a tough one to
Speaker 1: make a line for. It's interesting Week seven, but two
Speaker 1: good games so far Houston, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit.
Speaker 2: We'll see if there's.
Speaker 1: More value on the other side. It's a numbers game,
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Speaker 2: Sure, let's do it as usual if get ready for
Speaker 2: the NBA season with the guy does Zach and JVT
Speaker 2: did an incredible job at all the team right ups.
Speaker 1: I'm about halfway through it myself. Yeah, let's give him
Speaker 1: a shout. Manny Davison, Manny Davison, I'm gonna read this
Speaker 1: one first, Michael Burns, I am so glad. I am
Speaker 1: not subjected to games. There's so many bad teams. Work
Speaker 1: nights and sleeping Okay, there you will, okay, work knights
Speaker 1: and sleepy Manny Davison. There was an onside kick in
Speaker 1: the Steelers game yesterday, announcer says. Vegas declares, I say,
Speaker 1: I do declare as one would, and the wife shouts
Speaker 1: from the kitchen, I declare bankruptcy.
Speaker 2: She loves the office. Let's see here, Cpt.
Speaker 1: John Prescott, MD, I am sixteen ten and one in
Speaker 1: circum millions games not involving Will Levis. I am zero
Speaker 1: to three in games involving Will Levis. I hate Will Levis.
Speaker 2: This is like me. This is like be with the
Speaker 2: Ravens and Lebar Jackson. I could never get them right.
Speaker 2: I bet against the Ravens. Lebar Jackson has a huge
Speaker 2: game against me. I bet on the Ravens. He has
Speaker 2: a terrible game.
Speaker 1: That red light one of those grade school standardized test
Speaker 1: where it's like Kelly is wearing.
Speaker 2: A blue shirt.
Speaker 1: All blue shirts are extra large. Kelly is wearing an
Speaker 1: extra large Let's see here, Oh Phil knew, what was
Speaker 1: your guess? And the actual line of the Raiders Rams,
Speaker 1: I zoned out and missed it. My guess is Rams
Speaker 1: minus four and a half.
Speaker 2: That was mine too.
Speaker 1: Phil turns out of his minus five and a half.
Speaker 1: There you go, Phil, didn't want to miss one. But
Speaker 1: thank you for guessing along. That's the whole point. Gotta
Speaker 1: be interactive, got to do it on your own. Who
Speaker 1: cares what my guesses are. You should follow your constitution
Speaker 1: on your guests, although let me just tell you it
Speaker 1: works very well when I do it, all right, what's next?
Speaker 2: Panthers at Commanders.
Speaker 1: Four or five Eastern, Oh, Panthers weird to talk about Panthers.
Speaker 1: They lost to the Falcons Dalton twenty six of thirty
Speaker 1: eight or two twenty one in defeat. And then there's
Speaker 1: the subject of the Washington commodes, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: have been upgraded to commodoors. Washington loses to Baltimore, but
Speaker 1: I think I speak on behalf of all Taco holders fans.
Speaker 1: We're pretty pumped, pretty pumped about all this. Thirty to
Speaker 1: twenty three. No shame in that it was three to three.
Speaker 1: Then Baltimore goes on a nine play ninety three yard drive.
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry in from three, despite Dante Fowler completely hip
Speaker 1: dropping him and then not getting called.
Speaker 2: Just outside the red zone. What is with that this year?
Speaker 1: If that is not called, then no hip drop should
Speaker 1: ever be called. Lamar handled it pretty well, though, He's.
Speaker 2: Like, a nice play. I mean, this was part of
Speaker 2: Mixon's problem, right he went down with that injury. He's like,
Speaker 2: what I thought we were calling these this year? What's
Speaker 2: going on? Apparently we're not ten to three Baltimore.
Speaker 1: The Washington answers eight play, seventy yards Daniels to the
Speaker 1: incomparable Terry McLaurin from seven, his third catch of the drive,
Speaker 1: ten to ten. Late second quarter, but not late enough
Speaker 1: because then Baltimore went on a ten play seventy eight
Speaker 1: yard drive. Lamar to Andrews from thirteen out seventeen to ten,
Speaker 1: Baltimore to the half. Because Cybert missed a fifty two yardfield,
Speaker 1: we actually got tipped. But then Cyber did hit a
Speaker 1: fifty five yard er to begin the second half. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's seventeen to thirteen, but he just traded with Justin Tucker.
Speaker 1: Tucker hit a thirty two yard twenty thirteen, and then
Speaker 1: Baltimore took a two score lead eight plays ninety four yards.
Speaker 1: Another super long drive against that Washington defense set up
Speaker 1: by Lamar to Andrews for thirty eight, two plays earlier,
Speaker 1: two plays earlier than the actual touchdown, which was Henry
Speaker 1: In from seven twenty seven to thirteen Ravens two eight
Speaker 1: left in the third quarter. But then Washington's like, not
Speaker 1: so fast, twelve plays seventy yards. Daniels to mcclaurin on
Speaker 1: fourth and goal from the six. How nice was that pass?
Speaker 1: How nice was that catch? It's a good thing they
Speaker 1: met each other, like you suggested week two or whatever.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: Once he met Terry mccauran after week two, it completely
Speaker 1: unlocked this offense. What it really did, It's like.
Speaker 2: They realized they were good for each other.
Speaker 1: Hill, It's like, you should really meet this guy. He's
Speaker 1: kind of glossom. Baltimore would go up thirty to twenty.
Speaker 1: Then Washington would cut it to thirty to twenty three
Speaker 1: with two forty eight left, but they'd never see the
Speaker 1: ball again. Baltimore would run out the clock. That is
Speaker 1: your final. Washington gave up four hundred and eighty four
Speaker 1: total yards to Baltimore one hundred seventy six on the ground.
Speaker 2: That is the issue. Right.
Speaker 1: The defense is not a top tier defense, and that
Speaker 1: will always be the issue against a really good football
Speaker 1: team like the Ravens. And yet they lose by just
Speaker 1: one score. Daniels twenty four of thirty five for two
Speaker 1: sixty nine, two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked three times.
Speaker 1: He remains the presumptive favorite for Offensive Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 1: and some people might want to get I've heard some
Speaker 1: people are trying to get frisky with him both Offensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year and and MVP.
Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, what his odds came back a
Speaker 2: little bit because Caleb Williams a big game, But come on,
Speaker 2: it might be back to back in betting range. Come oh,
Speaker 2: come on, I'm gonna take it a step further than
Speaker 2: you just did. Their defense is terrible, Gil, it is awful. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and yet they still, like you said, only lost by seven.
Speaker 2: And I don't know how many times during that game
Speaker 2: I was like, Jaden Daniels stands in that pocket, throws
Speaker 2: a pass. I thought he was gonna be good this year.
Speaker 2: I never never saw this coming.
Speaker 1: And every decision he makes again appears to be the
Speaker 1: right one, and he just glides when he starts running.
Speaker 1: It's just is a beautiful thing to watch and was
Speaker 1: forcing that though. How many rookie quarterbacks do we see
Speaker 1: force running the ball when they have the ability?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 1: And I you know, I said the parallels to RG
Speaker 1: three and twenty twelve where we're getting all RG three vibes.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness that that comparison did not continue, because the
Speaker 1: Baltimore game in twenty twelve was the one where RG
Speaker 1: three first got hurt sprained his knee. Thank goodness that
Speaker 1: did not happen with Jane Daniels. So in my Washington brain,
Speaker 1: that hurdle has been cleared. And this kid is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: And Caleb Williams could do anything he wants, but he
Speaker 1: ain't gonna be the rookie of the year as long
Speaker 1: as this guy's Healthie, Oh, I have a guess. Guess
Speaker 1: Washington's got to be more than a touchdout. I'll say
Speaker 1: seven and a hook.
Speaker 2: You're dead on. There you go, there you go, there's
Speaker 2: one total of fifty two.
Speaker 1: Next, I don't know why I wanted to throw that
Speaker 1: in the big one. Sunday four, twenty five, Eastern Chiefs
Speaker 1: at Niners. Oh I forgot this was Chiefs at Niners.
Speaker 1: This is a great week of the NFL. Minnesota, Detroit
Speaker 1: at Minnesota, Houston into green Bay, and the Chiefs at
Speaker 1: the Niners.
Speaker 2: Actually, there's like a few great games that that a bunch.
Speaker 2: I don't care about it like at all, but yeah,
Speaker 2: at least on at least on paper.
Speaker 1: My god, this is my number one and number two
Speaker 1: power rank team, so I think they are from most
Speaker 1: people in whatever order. Chiefs coming off extra rest. They
Speaker 1: are on a bye this week, and then San Francisco
Speaker 1: will have extra rest, not quite as much rest as
Speaker 1: the Chiefs obviously, but they will have the you know,
Speaker 1: ten days coming off that Thursday night game against Seattle,
Speaker 1: perty eighteen of twenty eight in victory on Thursday for
Speaker 1: two to fifty five, three touchdowns, No Pixie was not sacked.
Speaker 1: Dbo three for one oh two in a touch Kittle
Speaker 1: five for fifty eight and two touchdowns, and they're thirty
Speaker 1: six to twenty four win over the Seahawks last Thursday night,
Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty three total yards plus three and turnovers.
Speaker 1: Uh San Francisco minus three right no gil, San Francisco
Speaker 1: minus one. Head DraftKings right now in most places disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I bet it Niners, right, I'd be in on the Niners. Two.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll bet it right now. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I was expecting I was thinking two and a half
Speaker 2: three is what we'd see. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: was fully expecting to see a three. I think books
Speaker 2: are a little hesitant to give the Chiefs a three.
Speaker 1: But this is just one of these things where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: if Patrick Mahomes did Patrick Mahomes things and wins this game,
Speaker 1: would anybody be shocked, including myself?
Speaker 2: No, of course not.
Speaker 1: But why would the Niners be less than three unless someone?
Speaker 1: I mean, they are they they are kind of a
Speaker 1: mass unit, right, They keep was it was it Thursday night.
Speaker 1: All these games run into each other where the guys
Speaker 1: kept getting banged up as the game went on.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they're running back situation, right, you keep
Speaker 2: going down.
Speaker 1: Jordan Mason was was was definitely nicked up, but another
Speaker 1: guys could but they all came back in the game,
Speaker 1: right Yeah. And then and then of course there's the
Speaker 1: looming spector of Christian McCaffrey may never play for this
Speaker 1: team again. I have no idea what the story is
Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey. So, but that shouldn't be let to
Speaker 1: me less than three is I don't know what the
Speaker 1: justification is because Kansas City, they're amazing, right, but at
Speaker 1: some point it's a body count with these guys, and
Speaker 1: I'll take the Niners here.
Speaker 2: I'll bet the Niners. That'll be a third play for me,
Speaker 2: for sure. I'm with you, it's a bet for me already.
Speaker 2: But like you said, it's hard I think for these
Speaker 2: to ever be heavy bets because of what you said
Speaker 2: about Mahomes. Yeah, like the Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Factor are still really wouldn't surprise anybody. Let's do one
Speaker 1: more here before we go.
Speaker 2: Okay, Sunday Night, Jets at Steelers.
Speaker 1: Jets at Steelers, Jets sight unseen. They play the Bills tonight.
Speaker 1: Obviously that game tonight down to a point, Buffalo favored
Speaker 1: by one point in what is a massive AFC East
Speaker 1: game in terms of AFC standings implications. If Buffalo wins it,
Speaker 1: they're your leader with cushion in the AFC East. If
Speaker 1: the Jets win it, they are technically the leader at
Speaker 1: three and having beaten Buffalo tonight, in other.
Speaker 2: Words, division leader in your coach got fired and your
Speaker 2: head coach just got fired. This what was this game again?
Speaker 2: This is Jets at Steelers. Jets at Steelers. Oh, Steelers,
Speaker 2: They're always difficult. I'm not high on the Jets. I
Speaker 2: made the Steelers a two and a half point favorite.
Speaker 2: I'm not high on either team. Yeah, you're close, Steelers
Speaker 2: one and a half.
Speaker 1: That that that all feels right, feels like this could
Speaker 1: this line will change after tonight, no matter what happens.
Speaker 1: This is another one that is super difficult to make it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I don't know where you're right. The Jets performance
Speaker 1: tonight is going to dictate a lot of this, obviously,
Speaker 1: but right at this moment, the Steelers are resourceful enough
Speaker 1: to merit them being the favorite.
Speaker 2: How about TJ. Watt poking out two balls? Yes, incredible,
Speaker 2: he's so good.
Speaker 1: You're talking about we talked about how if you're a
Speaker 1: non quarterback you don't mean anything to the line. That
Speaker 1: guy means something to the line. Yeah, so incredible player.
Speaker 1: We'll come back, we'll wrap up guessing lines, we'll talk
Speaker 1: look at the g Bank plays of the day, and
Speaker 1: we'll talk a little baseball.
Speaker 3: Numbers game on said these Sports Vetting Network.
Speaker 1: Back on a numbers game live from Circa guessing lines
Speaker 1: for week number seven in the National Football League. A
Speaker 1: good amount of value so far. I believe at least three.
Speaker 2: We got the night games to get to those. Yes,
Speaker 2: Sunday night, Monday night. Did Sunday Night Jensen Steelers? Oh? Okay?
Speaker 2: Did we? Yes? We did?
Speaker 1: Okay on the Monday night? Okay, we have two Monday
Speaker 1: night games. Oh, we have two Monday night games. I
Speaker 1: was counting. I was like, why do we have two
Speaker 1: more games?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 3: You know what I did?
Speaker 2: Screw up something. I didn't write down one but first
Speaker 2: Monday night game Ravens at Buccaneers. I gotta find one
Speaker 2: game I'm missing now I forgot we had. We came
Speaker 2: back to a double header on Monday night. I like
Speaker 2: that all right. By the way, Baltimore, what did you say?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 1: Baltimore Tampa? Yes, Baltimore at Tampa, Baltimore beating Washington twenty
Speaker 1: of twenty six, Lamar twenty for twenty six for three
Speaker 1: twenty three, one touchdown, one, Picky with sacked twice eleven
Speaker 1: carries for forty yards, and Henry oh Man twenty four
Speaker 1: for one thirty two and two touchdowns Zay nine for
Speaker 1: one thirty two again, four hundred eighty four total yards
Speaker 1: for the Ravens, one hundred and seventy.
Speaker 2: Six on the ground. They are good at football.
Speaker 1: And then Tampa Bay, as we talked about that roller
Speaker 1: coaster game against the Saints, was this a track meet?
Speaker 1: In the first half, Tampa Bay took a huge lead,
Speaker 1: Saints came all the way back and there were trading touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and then the second half Tampa Bay just rolled him
Speaker 1: fifty one to twenty seven winners over Spencer Rattler and
Speaker 1: the Saints. Mayfield twenty four of thirty six for three
Speaker 1: to twenty five, four touchdowns, three picks. They overcame those
Speaker 1: three picks once at god Win eleven for one to
Speaker 1: twenty five, two touchdowns. Sean Tucker, Syracuse, I believe Shawn
Speaker 1: Tucker right. Fourteen for one to thirty six in a touchdown,
Speaker 1: five hundred and ninety four total yards. These are the
Speaker 1: two best offensive performances in football, I would say yesterday
Speaker 1: Baltimore at Tampa Bay Baltimore minus four, three and a half,
Speaker 1: three and a half.
Speaker 2: Right now, Baker Mayfield, I love watching this year. Man.
Speaker 2: He is Yeah, he's been fun. You know what. I
Speaker 2: finally realized though yesterday Gil he's starting. He's starting to
Speaker 2: remind me of another Buccaneers all time great quarterback. That
Speaker 2: would be James Winston. Yes, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm enjoying it so much. Yeah, well, all right,
Speaker 1: you ready for the second Monday Night.
Speaker 2: Yes, which I did not write on the rundown by apologies. Uh,
Speaker 2: Chargers at Cardinals. This one starts nine o'clock Eastern, so
Speaker 2: we have a late start. Chargers at Cardinals. Oh that's awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this already without even thinking about it, Probably the
Speaker 1: game I want no part of on the megapod.
Speaker 2: This is new right, like we're doing. We did the
Speaker 2: staggered times before on the Monday two Monday night games,
Speaker 2: but I don't remember one that late. I don't either,
Speaker 2: but someone might correct us.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Chargers at Arizona. Chargers again beating the Broncos and covering.
Speaker 2: In the process.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert played great yesterday, twenty one of thirty four
Speaker 1: for two thirty seven, one touchdown. O Pixie was sacked
Speaker 1: three times. Dobbins JK. Dobbins twenty five or ninety six
Speaker 1: in a touch charges were plus two and turnovers. They
Speaker 1: out top the outtime of possession Denver thirty seven to
Speaker 1: twenty three to twenty two thirty seven. Remember they had
Speaker 1: that twenty play drive that ended up in a field
Speaker 1: goal and then Arizona getting crushed by Green Bay Kyler
Speaker 1: twenty two of thirty two for two fourteen, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: no picks. He wasn't sack, but he did lose a fumble.
Speaker 1: They had thirteen penalties for one hundred yards. They were
Speaker 1: minus two and turnovers.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is again in a week where some of these
Speaker 1: lines are really difficult to come up with. This is
Speaker 1: about as difficult as it is. But here, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: use a little deductive reasoning. Because the Chargers were surprisingly
Speaker 1: three point favorites against the Broncos last week, I suspect
Speaker 1: that they will be a tick of a favorite in
Speaker 1: this game, even though if I didn't have that pre knowledge,
Speaker 1: I would have said the Cardinals would have been slight favorites.
Speaker 1: But I'll say Chargers minus one and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: a great deductive reasoning, Thank you. I also think this
Speaker 1: is going to lead me to a gross bend and
Speaker 1: maybe you two then, because it is Chargers out two, three,
Speaker 1: a full three at DraftKings. Now, Marvin Harrison Junior, what concussion?
Speaker 1: Watch right left the game?
Speaker 3: That big?
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say that's not uh not big. But
Speaker 2: you know, I've been kind of I've been kind of
Speaker 2: high on this Cardinals team. I think I'm gonna have
Speaker 2: to go to war with three and zero. Oh man,
Speaker 2: I mean it's that or nothing. Yeah, but I could.
Speaker 1: This does not excite me in the least. Been Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna tempt me. You're right about concussions.
Speaker 2: You never know.
Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors missed a second game yesterday with the Giants
Speaker 1: from a concussion. It's I mean, it is not a
Speaker 1: joking matter at all. So I yeah, charges by three again, huh.
Speaker 2: On the road they are laying three? Wow? Yeah, not
Speaker 2: good at football, but you know what we were.
Speaker 1: We were surprised by that line last week too, And
Speaker 1: I mean they rolled, they rolled, they rolled Cardinals. Cardinals
Speaker 1: are nothing, though, But the Cardinals are not the Broncos
Speaker 1: in terms of if they fall behind, they're done. Although
Speaker 1: I will say they look done yesterday, so I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say that.
Speaker 2: They look They're like complete, complete opposite team it's right,
Speaker 2: like an offense that you might be able to believe it,
Speaker 2: but a defense that is not going to slow down
Speaker 2: the Chargers running game probably at all a lot of
Speaker 2: respect for the Chargers. I know we said this last week,
Speaker 2: but I'm back at it again. I totally I think
Speaker 2: the same thing.
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe the Cardinals will end up being like
Speaker 1: a fifth pick in millions or something like that. Man,