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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two, pud to Baker, What Heart?

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Speaker 2: What rent? This guy's unbelievable?

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Speaker 1: Whow Here's Craigcriol, So off the top, Zach. As we

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Speaker 1: Despite what Jacoby said Wins, I do think it matters

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Speaker 3: This game was the health that this Cardinals offense has

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Speaker 1: And the comfort level that Jacoby has with the play

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Speaker 3: That is critical and Jacoby you're not going to think

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Speaker 3: I think that in Jacoby's case, he has done a

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Speaker 3: great job of trying to avoid the checkdowns and trying

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Speaker 3: to find guys downfield. As part of the reason why

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Speaker 3: the yards after cash numbers have looked so good is

439
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Speaker 3: because he's been able to find guys in stride and

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Speaker 3: find them open. You think to that play with Michael

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Speaker 3: Wilson the fifty yard I know that I don't believe

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Speaker 3: that that was a third down play, but you were

443
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Speaker 3: able to look downfield and find somebody that play. I

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Speaker 3: discussed earlier with Marvin Harrison Junior, how we just took

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Speaker 3: a little stide step and was able to find number

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Speaker 3: eighteen out there. It's it's important, it's valuable. It's easy

447
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Speaker 3: for a quarterback to just look to his right or

448
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Speaker 3: left and toss it to a Mari de Mercado or

449
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Speaker 3: to Bam Knight out there. Who the broadcast or the

450
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Speaker 3: PA announcer kept calling him Zonovan, which really was throwing

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Speaker 3: me off throughout the entirety of the game.

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Speaker 2: Like when did we sign a zo? I'm like, no

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Speaker 2: one calls this guy Sonovan. He's Bam.

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Speaker 3: And it's easy for a quarterback to go to their

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Speaker 3: checkdowns and just try to get a few extra yards.

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Speaker 2: But Jacoby Brissett, what he.

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Speaker 3: Does better than most quarterbacks in the league is the

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Speaker 3: ability to stand in the pocket, to look downfield and

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Speaker 3: to try to find one of his weapons.

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Speaker 1: Now, I don't like the fact that he's been hit

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Speaker 1: as many times any time as he has or sacked

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Speaker 1: as many times as he's had, so that can be

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Speaker 1: better obviously the offensive line and on Jacoby's part as well,

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Speaker 1: But like most pocket passers, they are willing to accept

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Speaker 1: the punishment in order to complete the pass. So again

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Speaker 1: that's that give and take. Sometimes when you have someone

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Speaker 1: willing to stand in the pocket, you certainly don't want

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Speaker 1: to lose your starting quarterback. By the way, Keaton Slovas

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Speaker 1: is now backup quarterback with a third quarterback to be signed.

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Speaker 1: At least that was the indication Jonathan Gannon gave on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: They are thin at the quarterback position. Typically teams keep three,

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Speaker 1: either two on the active roster or three but one

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad, so expect a movement they're likely

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Speaker 1: before the end of the week. But it has been

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Speaker 1: fun to watch Jacoby Brissett operate within this offense is

476
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Speaker 1: certainly the downfield passing game has come alive. Thirteen pass

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Speaker 1: is completed of twenty or more yards compared to the

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Speaker 1: seven in the first five games of the regular season.

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Speaker 1: And then despite not having your top two running backs,

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Speaker 1: you've got running backs three and four and sometimes Michael

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Speaker 1: Cartter as either number three or number five. They have

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Speaker 1: done just enough as far as an efficient ground game

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Speaker 1: to keep defenses honest to where you're not just playing

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Speaker 1: a lot of pressman and putting a second safety over

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Speaker 1: the top of Marvin or Michael or Trey. You have

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Speaker 1: to account for the Cardinals ground game well.

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Speaker 3: I think that in that case, you also can't dismiss

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Speaker 3: the fact that the Cowboys had one of the worst

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Speaker 3: rush defenses.

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Speaker 1: Oh and then there's that too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that is a big part of it, because

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Speaker 3: now you're going ready to go to Seattle where they

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Speaker 3: have Leonard Williams, who has caused problems for the Cardinals

494
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Speaker 3: every single time they have played. You mentioned the numbers

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Speaker 3: against Seattle in that Week four matchup on Thursday Night Football.

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Speaker 3: They're not pretty and the score looked as close as

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Speaker 3: it did because the Cardinals came back in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: and that's important, but it takes all four quarters. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's something this Cardinals team did great against

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys. They put together a complete game out

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Speaker 3: there the fourth quarters. In the fourth quarter they allowed

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Speaker 3: the touchdown, and I think all of us will probably

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Speaker 3: be like, oh boy, here we go again. But then

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Speaker 3: then they settled right back in and Josh Wett makes

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Speaker 3: the big time sacks that he does, and Walter Nolan

506
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Speaker 3: makes the plays that he does. In Kalais Campbell continues

507
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Speaker 3: to go off in the fourth quarter, and that motor

508
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Speaker 3: knows no limits at this point with how well he

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Speaker 3: has played the thing is though, is it's going to

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Speaker 3: take all four quarters and the rushing attack. The way

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Speaker 3: that the Cardinals operate on offense is going to drastically

512
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Speaker 3: change because they're going against one of the best defenses

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Speaker 3: in the league. When you play against one of the

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Speaker 3: worst defenses in the league and you put up twenty

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Speaker 3: seven's good. That's what you're supposed to do against statistically

516
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Speaker 3: one of the worst defenses out there. Now you're going

517
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Speaker 3: against statistically one of the best defenses out there. If

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Speaker 3: you still put up twenty seven, well, you better hope

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Speaker 3: that you know the defense really holds up and is

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Speaker 3: able to limit Sam Darnold, because that is enough points

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Speaker 3: for you to win the game.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks defense number two against the run, though the Commanders

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Speaker 1: did rush for one hundred and fifty yards. One hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty seven yards, the most the Seahawks defense has

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Speaker 1: allowed all season long. You bring up Leonard Williams, don't

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Speaker 1: forget about DeMarcus Lawrence. Byron Murphy has five sacks as

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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, the most among defensive tackles in the league.

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Speaker 1: And this is a Seahawks defense that does not blitz.

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Speaker 1: They had the second lowest blitz rate but the second

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Speaker 1: highest pressure rate, meaning they can get to you with

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Speaker 1: just four maybe even three. That's how dominant. This Seahawks

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Speaker 1: front is different story than what we saw Monday nights.

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Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, it's okay. Actually, you

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Speaker 1: know what, the Colts and Packers defensive fronts were pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: They were as well, and the Cardinals were still able

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Speaker 1: to move the football. Didn't score enough points to get

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Speaker 1: the win, but did score against the Colts and Packers.

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Speaker 2: They were able to move the football through the air.

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Speaker 3: This is what you're gonna have to figure out because

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Speaker 3: the Seahawks cornerbacks have played pretty well against the Arizona

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Speaker 3: Cardinals has the way Kobe Bryant has the interception in

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Speaker 3: the last three games he is played against the Cardinals

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Speaker 3: each time he has one. So you're gonna need to

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Speaker 3: be very mindful. They are a very stout defensive front.

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Speaker 3: They are a very explosive, shifty defensive back group with

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Speaker 3: their secondary. You just have to hope you figured out

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Speaker 3: the code. It's not been It hasn't been that long

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Speaker 3: in between your two matchups Week four to Week ten.

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Speaker 3: Although I say as I say that, I think back

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Speaker 3: to last year where they played twice in the span

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Speaker 3: of three weeks. You just have to hope that whatever

552
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Speaker 3: it was, this is a divisional matchup. You can't afford

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Speaker 3: to go down in the Division zero to three. The

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Speaker 3: win is great against the Dallas Cowboys. You're three and five.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot better than two and six, don't get

556
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Speaker 3: me wrong, but you cannot go down to zero to

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Speaker 3: three in the Division.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals at the Seahawks two five on Sunday. Pregame coverage

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Speaker 1: begins at nine thirty am on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: A large, bright spotlight on Jacoby Brissetts and then there

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Speaker 1: will be one on Walter Nolan third as well. Can

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Speaker 1: he repeat the performance that he had on Monday Night Football?

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Speaker 1: Well worth the wait to see. The sixteenth overall pick

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Speaker 1: on the football field did something that had not been

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Speaker 1: done since twenty seventeen, when someone named TJ. Watt did

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Speaker 1: it in his first career game. I'm talking about a sack,

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Speaker 1: two tackles for loss, and a pass defense in your

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Speaker 1: season debut. That's some pretty good company if you're Walter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I tweeted it out during the game and it was funny.

571
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Speaker 3: Thousand in the suite with the Legends during the Cardinals

572
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Speaker 3: Premier Travel games. I was there with Adrian Wilson and

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Speaker 3: Patrick Peterson and Sam Macho, Marcus Golden, and we're all

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Speaker 3: talking about it, and we're like, man, he's he's falling out.

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Speaker 3: He's playing a really good game right now. And I

576
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Speaker 3: tweeted out that after the pass deflection, he's having a

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Speaker 3: very solid debut. And then he gets in and then

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Speaker 3: he gets in and he brings down Dak Prescott for

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Speaker 3: a sack, and I tweeted again, I stand corrected, he's

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Speaker 3: having an incredible debut. What he has been able to

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Speaker 3: do out there is been remarkable, and I think it's impressive.

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Speaker 3: I was in the locker room earlier this week on

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Speaker 3: a Wednesday, which is today.

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Speaker 1: And I asked, very good, thank you, you know your

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Speaker 1: days of the week.

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Speaker 2: I tried, that has been a struggle, as heally.

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Speaker 3: But I asked Walter and Olan the third if there's

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Speaker 3: been any surprises of taking part in the NFL and

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Speaker 3: what he learned in that first game.

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Speaker 2: He said not really.

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Speaker 3: He said that, you know, the game moved pretty slow

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Speaker 3: for him that first time, which was awesome. That's exactly

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Speaker 3: what you want to hear for a defensive lineman. Let's

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Speaker 3: be real too, the Cowboys offense was very good and

595
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Speaker 3: their offensive line is very strong. A lot of first

596
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Speaker 3: round talent on there, and Waltern on the third had

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Speaker 3: his way. He played the thirty seven. If I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 3: that was a number he had. Probably was a tad

599
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Speaker 3: bit more than they were hoping for. But JG said

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Speaker 3: that he just kept wanting to go out there, and

601
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Speaker 3: he kept wanting him to go out there, and he

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Speaker 3: bawled out.

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Speaker 2: He did exactly what.

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Speaker 3: You would want from your sixteen overall pick. It's exciting,

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Speaker 3: it's exciting, But as I said about about Jacoby and

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Speaker 3: about this entire offense and this entire Cardinals team, it's

607
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Speaker 3: different when you go into a divisional matchup, what are

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Speaker 3: you able to do against the opponent's usage. Twice a

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Speaker 3: year Seattle did not see Walter Nolan the third. He

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Speaker 3: was on the pop list. Still, now they're going to

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Speaker 3: get a taste of it, and they have a first

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Speaker 3: round offensive guard in Gray's Abel in that mix. So

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Speaker 3: that's going to be a matchup I'm going to be

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Speaker 3: very excited to watch on Sunday. Also missing from that

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Speaker 3: first meeting Will Johnson yes, which I also asked Will

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Speaker 3: Johnson about about learning, what if there's any excitement about

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Speaker 3: learning what it's like to play in the NFC West,

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Speaker 3: and he was saying yeah, And he was saying that,

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Speaker 3: and this is going to be my story on Azycardinals

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Speaker 3: dot Com closer to the weekend about the rookie class

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Speaker 3: in their way that they were able to ball out,

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Speaker 3: and he said that we're the future. And not only

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Speaker 3: are they just the future of the Arizona Cardinals, but

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Speaker 3: they can be the future of the NFC West. This

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Speaker 3: is a Seattle offense with a lot of exposive weapons,

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Speaker 3: a lot of exposive targets on the field. They just signed,

627
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Speaker 3: They just made a trade to bring in Rashid Shaheed,

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Speaker 3: who has experienced with Clint Kubiak in his system in

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Speaker 3: New Orleans. He's a speedy wide receiver, Jackson Smith and

630
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Speaker 3: the jig. But the Cardinals held pretty and they contained

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Speaker 3: him pretty much throughout majority of that game until the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter when he was able to get involved in

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Speaker 3: the offense a little bit more. And then of course,

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Speaker 3: Cooper Cupp is a former Triple Crown winner. But Will

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Speaker 3: Johnson also wants to show that he and the rookie

636
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Speaker 3: class are the future, not just with the Cardinals, by

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Speaker 3: the NFC West. The first five draft picks each had

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Speaker 3: a hand in the win. On Monday night, we talked

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Speaker 3: about Walter will had.

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Speaker 1: A pass defense force fumble. Then you got Jordan Birch,

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Speaker 1: Cody Simon, Denzel Burke. All play made significant roles. But

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Speaker 1: it's Cody and Denzel that I want to bring up

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Speaker 1: specifically here because neither has been playing a ton defensively,

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Speaker 1: neither has seen a lot of the field. Yet Cody

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Speaker 1: stepped up when Mac Wilson went out and had the

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Speaker 1: force fumble on Javonte Williams, which was a great strip

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Speaker 1: and that was the second to last Cowboys possession. The

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Speaker 1: last Cowboys possession was ended by Denzel, who stepped up

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Speaker 1: when Max Melton went out because he was being evaluated

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Speaker 1: for a concussion. Two passes defense, including a fourth down

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Speaker 1: on Ceedee Lamb inside the red zone, and then the

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Speaker 1: games ceiling interception. So you had two players. Cody played

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Speaker 1: twenty snaps he had played just three defensive snaps all season,

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Speaker 1: and Denzel thirty nine snaps, the most since Week two

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Speaker 1: when he started that game.

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Speaker 2: These two have been.

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Speaker 1: Spectators for the most part defensively, yet because of injuries,

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Speaker 1: and Nick Ralis says, what do you do when you

659
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Speaker 1: lose a shoe? And Jonathan Gannon famous for saying roles change, well,

660
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Speaker 1: roles changed within the game first half when Max went out,

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Speaker 1: second half when Mac Wilson went out, and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got two Day three draft picks coming

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Speaker 1: up and playing well.

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Speaker 2: I was talking with Denzel Burke in the locker room

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 3: I asked him about if he felt that the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: were picking on him a little bit. He said, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I content it a little bit. And I asked him

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Speaker 3: just the emotions behind that. He goes, I'm a rookie.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to see if I have it. He has

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Speaker 3: played in the league, you know, he played in a

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Speaker 3: game against the Carolina Panthers when when Max Melon went down,

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Speaker 3: so he has seen some defensive action, but this was

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Speaker 3: certainly the most he has seen so far, and he

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Speaker 3: performed quite well. And I asked him about just the

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Speaker 3: patience behind it, because you talked about it there Craig

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Speaker 3: about how he was really just a special teammerer for

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Speaker 3: the most part, and he was saying, this is something

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Speaker 3: we've all been manifesting. It was trying to get out

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Speaker 3: there and trying to make something happen. And the fact

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Speaker 3: that they were able to do it on the stage

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Speaker 3: that they were able to on Monday Night Football, it

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Speaker 3: was definitely pretty sweet. It was fun too, knowing that

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Speaker 3: it was two college teammates together, Denzel Brick and Cody

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Speaker 3: Simon both being the ones that were able to make

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Speaker 3: the plays on the field. So kudos to those two guys.

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Speaker 3: It shows that their patience has paid off. Denzel said

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Speaker 3: it was a dream come true. We have to remember too,

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Speaker 3: he's an Arizona kid. He grew up a Cardinals fan.

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Speaker 3: So to see him help this team win games. Anytime

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals are a part of a win, he's going

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Speaker 3: to be excited because he's a fan of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: He grew up a fan of the of Arizona. Now

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Speaker 3: he gets sacksually contributed to be a part of it.

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Speaker 3: And when you're trying to do your best of locking

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Speaker 3: up ceedee Lamb and trying your best to limit George

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Speaker 3: Pickens in his ballment. Look he drew a taunting penalty

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Speaker 3: from George Pickens. That makes a big penalty. That makes

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Speaker 3: a huge difference, So kudos to Denzel for stepping up.

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Speaker 3: And then in Cody Simon's case, he took over as

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Speaker 3: the green dot of the defense. We saw when Mac

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Speaker 3: Wilson Senior went out in a game earlier on in

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Speaker 3: the season. I forget which game it was, but it

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Speaker 3: was a Keem Davis Gather who then slid over and

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Speaker 3: took over as the green dot. That's because Cody Simon

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Speaker 3: was inactive that game, so to see Cody Simon come

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Speaker 3: in show that he So that would probably be the

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Speaker 3: second game then, because Cody Simon was injured in the

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Speaker 3: first game against the New Orleans Saints. So that second

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Speaker 3: game is when a Keem Davis Gather slid over and

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Speaker 3: took over as the green dot. To see Cody Simon

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Speaker 3: go to at and T Stadium, a loud environment, Dallas

713
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Speaker 3: is trying to drive down the field. Their offense is electric.

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Speaker 3: For him to take over as the green dot, keep

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Speaker 3: this team under control and to make big time plays

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Speaker 3: and make big time stops.

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Speaker 2: Kudos to those two guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not just any offense, but one of the better

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Speaker 1: offenses in the league in the Dallas Cowboys. Now, they

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Speaker 1: didn't show it a lot on Monday Night. But again

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Speaker 1: the threats of that offense that you have two rookies

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Speaker 1: stepping up and making sure that the Cowboys did not

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Speaker 1: score on those last two possessions. And keep in mind

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Speaker 1: Berg again going back to April, we all want, we

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Speaker 1: all questioned, fifth round, why are you taking another cornerback? Well,

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Speaker 1: Sean Murphy, Bunting s Darling Thomas and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: now you can't forecast that going into the draft, but

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Speaker 1: it goes back to take the best player available, or

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Speaker 1: it's where do you have these players on your board?

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Speaker 1: How high are they ranked? Are they too good of

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Speaker 1: a talent to pass up because maybe you have a

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Speaker 1: need at another position. Certainly sounds like the Cardinals value cornerback,

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Speaker 1: value the secondary because they've drafted a ton of secondary players.

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Speaker 1: But Denzel Burke was certainly an eye opener in the

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Speaker 1: fifth round because cornerback, especially after you already selected Will

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Speaker 1: Johnson in the second round, was not on anyone's radar

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Speaker 1: as far as we need another corner Well, who's your

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Speaker 1: head coach? A cornerback, former cornerback.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, a former secondary cornerbacks coach. He was a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: He's a defensive back savant, and you have somebody that

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Speaker 3: you're watching on tape and has a lot of game experience,

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Speaker 3: like Denzel Burke did practicing against the Jackson Smith and

743
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Speaker 3: Jigbuzz of the world, and the Marvin Harrison juniors and

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Speaker 3: the Garrett Wilsons and everybody that has come out of

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Speaker 3: Ohio State. Jeremiah Smith as well, who will be a

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Speaker 3: first round talent and a top five pick when he

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Speaker 3: does enter the draft whenever that is. He has tons

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Speaker 3: of experience and that's why I think the moment wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Too big for him.

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Speaker 3: As he was getting ready to play against Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 3: and getting ready to try to lock up George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: He has played against a lot of these, a lot

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Speaker 3: of players of that caliber and that talent. He played well.

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Speaker 3: He played well, and you never forecast the injuries that

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Speaker 3: are going to happen. But this was never going to

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Speaker 3: be a team that's going to say, well, we don't

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Speaker 3: want enough good corners out there. There are a lot

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Speaker 3: of teams right now that are making deals and had

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Speaker 3: made deals throughout the trade deadline for cornerbacks because they

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Speaker 3: needed help. Cardinals have a lot of great dbs in

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Speaker 3: that room.

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Speaker 1: Just a tremendous showing by that entire twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: draft class, or at least the first five picks. And

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Speaker 1: now you've got to make sure, Okay, you've done it,

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Speaker 1: you've shown it, can you do it again?

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Speaker 3: And Garrett Williams also came back in that game and

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Speaker 3: he added to that secondary, So that is certainly important.

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Speaker 3: It's not that you needed to mix in match and

769
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Speaker 3: start to plug in different players into different spots because

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Speaker 3: Garrett Williams was back out there.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Garrett Williams also missed the first meeting

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Speaker 1: with the Seahawks. So you have Walter, you have Will

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Speaker 1: Johnson and Garrett Williams, three pieces of your defense that

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Speaker 1: did not see any action, weren't even on the field,

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Speaker 1: or we haven't even active for that Week four game

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Speaker 1: against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a good one when the Cardinals go

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Speaker 3: out there the Seattle I think it with Jacoby said

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be a full sixty minute game, where Johnathan

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Speaker 3: Gannat said it was gonna be a full sixty minute game.

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Speaker 3: The Cardinals know quite well, considering they lost on a

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Speaker 3: walk off field goal. It will take all sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you can hear more and see more

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Speaker 1: of Will Johnson. He is this week's guest on Sideline

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Speaker 1: Exchange with Danny Sirek, which will be posted on Easycardinals

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Speaker 1: dot com at some point this week. And speaking of

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Speaker 1: more social media slash appearances, Frank Sanders will be joining

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Speaker 1: Paul and Wolf on sites at Flanker Kitchen and Sports

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Speaker 1: Bar near State Farm Stadium Big Red Rage on Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: From what I understand a successful debut at Flanker Kitchen

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Speaker 1: and Sports Bar last week with Adrian Wilson, now it's

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Speaker 1: Frank Sanders Michael Wilson. You'll hear from Michael Wilson as

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Speaker 1: a part of the Big Red Rage. Won't be in

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Speaker 1: appearance or on site, but Paul Wolf and Frank Sanders

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Speaker 1: at Flanker Kitchen and Sports Bar six pm on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: If you can't get to it obviously Arizona Sports ninety

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Speaker 1: eight seven FM or podcast form later on Thursday morning,

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, Friday morning.

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Speaker 2: Get to it.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to a lot of the fans that

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Speaker 3: were on Cardinal's premiere travel and a few of them

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Speaker 3: have been in the live audience at Big Red Rage,

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Speaker 3: and they always have a blast. So uh, you get

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Speaker 3: to meet, you know, some of the legends that are

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Speaker 3: out there. Some of them were already met Adrian Wilson

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Speaker 3: the day before that they went on the Cardinals premiere travel.

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Speaker 3: So if you have the opportunity to make sure you're

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Speaker 3: out there and Frank's awesome, you signed any autographs over

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Speaker 3: the weekend, I didn't. I took a few photos with

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Speaker 3: fans or you like, literally took pictures of both both.

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Speaker 3: But I took photos with a few and I'm very honored,

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Speaker 3: I really am. But I think it's a testament not

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Speaker 3: just to me pat on the back, but to all

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Speaker 3: of us here in our organization.

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Speaker 2: This I just I can't Maybe it's because.

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Speaker 3: I've been writing about it and I've been watching back

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Speaker 3: some of the videos, but this was a success, and

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Speaker 3: Michael Bidwell said to me that they hope that this

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Speaker 3: is just the beginning. So uh, stay on the lookout

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Speaker 3: for tons.

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Speaker 1: More premiere travel Azycardinals dot com for more information, and

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Speaker 1: congratulations to you. I know it was a lot of work,

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Speaker 1: but a fun time had by all.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, No, it was a it was a blast,

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Speaker 2: and most importantly, the Cardinals came away with the wind.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's the only thing that matters is today, what

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Speaker 1: did you do on the field.

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Speaker 3: The amount of fans when we were leaving the stadium

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Speaker 3: that we're saying like, well, we have to be back

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Speaker 3: next week. Let's all go to Seattle. It's just take

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals team plane and go to Seattle so we

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Speaker 3: could get another win because we're the good luck charm.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Michael Bidwell knew that that's what was being said.

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Speaker 3: That plane is going to the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: a little bit above my pay grade on that one.

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Speaker 3: So you can get on that and see if you

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Speaker 3: can make that happen.

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Speaker 2: I could try. I will never go down without trying,

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Speaker 2: That's fair.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals ant Seahawks on Sunday two oh five is the kickoff.

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Speaker 1: Much more on that game a little bit later on

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Speaker 1: on the week here. John Boyle, who covers the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: for Seattle dot Seattle Seahawks dot Com, will be joining

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Speaker 1: us on Friday's show, but until then, we'll put a

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Speaker 1: lid on This edition of Cardinals. Cover two, presented by Hyundai,

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Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has always special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jill Mama Andre our associate producer

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Speaker 1: Cody Fincher. For Zach Kershman, I'm preg real Lou. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.