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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to this week's ozone podcast. I'm John

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Speaker 1: Oser and I'm excited to be joined today by Jaguars

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Speaker 1: running back Tank Bigsby. Tank, thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 2: How you doing good?

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Speaker 1: So first tell me about the team right now. You're

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Speaker 1: two and five, a couple of wins in the last

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Speaker 1: three games. I was with you in London, some camaraderie

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Speaker 1: built up. But what's the mindset going into this week?

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Speaker 2: You know, just.

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Speaker 3: Trying to be as consistent as the team we can

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Speaker 3: be as a team, and I bring you more and

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Speaker 3: more energy as a team, and just going out and

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Speaker 3: compete at a high level.

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Speaker 1: Your personal story, You've talked about it. I'm during training camp.

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Speaker 1: I've talked a little bit about it. Confidence level right now,

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Speaker 1: I guess with the way you're playing as high as

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Speaker 1: it's been since you've been in the league.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I feel like my confidence comes from

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Speaker 3: my faith, you know, just just preparation and preparing and

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Speaker 3: then getting understanding of the game. And I also hard

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Speaker 3: work during the off season, you know. You know last

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Speaker 3: year was it learning a season for me first year

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Speaker 3: in the lead, and uh, I just feel like this

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Speaker 3: league about opportunities and confidence come where you know you're

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Speaker 3: getting going. And once again I say, like you have

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Speaker 3: a lot of faith in hard work. You put those

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Speaker 3: two together, it's like your confidence go through the roof.

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to skim over that because you're

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Speaker 1: all about confidence about a tough year. You're a young

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Speaker 1: guy and really went through a tough year in terms

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Speaker 1: of the noise in the system, all those things.

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Speaker 2: But how.

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Speaker 1: How do you maintain that?

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Speaker 2: Meaning?

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Speaker 1: It would have been easy for you to get discouraged,

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Speaker 1: to get down. Uh maybe a couple of times last

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Speaker 1: year you did. But by the time you came back

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Speaker 1: this off season, I don't know, you seem different. You

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Speaker 1: seemed like I guess that truly was behind it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Am I reading that right? And then how do you

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Speaker 1: do that?

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Speaker 3: You know, at Arburne we had we been through a

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Speaker 3: lot of adversity, and uh, I feel like that school

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Speaker 3: got me ready for a lot of things. And Uh,

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Speaker 3: when I came to the league and had a little adversity, Uh,

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Speaker 3: I didn't let it change my character. I stayed who

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Speaker 3: I was and true to myself, you know, kept praying

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Speaker 3: and asking God to show me the way.

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Speaker 2: You know, Uh, don't flinch when you get your opportunities.

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Speaker 3: Just try to take full advantage when you go from

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Speaker 3: you know, carrying the ball for for a team consistently

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Speaker 3: consistently that you going to get couple.

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Speaker 2: Of ops here and there. Sure you know it.

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Speaker 3: It it kind of play with you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Then I learned about the NFL, what the NFL really was.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know, this is what I gotta do.

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Speaker 3: This is how I gotta come and I just gotta

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Speaker 3: know my job and my role and when I get

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Speaker 3: was this off season, you know, I told myself, whatever

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Speaker 2: So uh, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I have a testimony, but it's still it's a

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Speaker 3: story for another day. But it's a it's a it's

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Speaker 3: a blessing, you know, to be able to understand what

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Speaker 1: And you said you sort of learned what the NFL's

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Speaker 1: are all about. And definitely talking to second year guys

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Speaker 1: over the years compared to rookies. That story is pretty common.

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Speaker 1: What did you learn about it, just in terms of

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Speaker 1: what it really took to make it that you didn't

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Speaker 3: In college you get so many opportunities and you get right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you get to the league and it's a business, you know. Uh,

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Speaker 3: I never forget last year, you know, I wasn't performing

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Speaker 2: I didn't let it sit well with me, and I

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Speaker 3: And I just thank God for that put putting me

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I thank him

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Speaker 3: for all my trials and tribulations, everything I go through

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Speaker 3: because it been me to a better character.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like, so you wouldn't be the player

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that. You know, I feel like I

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Speaker 2: I just feel like I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know what the league is now, you know,

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Speaker 3: And by me saying like I wouldn't I know who

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Speaker 3: I am saying like basically like I know how the

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Speaker 2: When you got to be performing, it's a performance lead.

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Speaker 3: And you know, at the end of the day, I knew,

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, when you get

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Speaker 1: And I got you. I was talking to another subject,

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Speaker 1: talking to Christian Kirk yesterday and just about criticism and

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Speaker 1: things that you guys deal with, and he said, at

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Speaker 1: some point you have to shot off your phone. But

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Speaker 1: even when you're shof your phone, you hear it was

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Speaker 1: that a tricky thing to learn how to deal with

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Speaker 3: It right well, you know, I've been real disciplined with

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Speaker 3: social media. So it's probably different for me and Kurt.

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Speaker 3: Those guys, I don't know how they do, sure, but

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Speaker 3: criticism from the coaches and the team, and I feel

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Speaker 3: like I take it well, you know, because I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like I need.

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Speaker 3: You know, I need criticism, Bill, Bill, your characters show

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Speaker 3: from it. But anything else, like people people say on

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Speaker 3: because they don't know what actually go on in this building.

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Speaker 1: You don't think, you don't think they know.

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Speaker 2: They don't know. They just clueless.

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Speaker 1: Who did you lean on?

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Speaker 2: You know, I lean on for one, I lean on God,

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Speaker 3: My mom, you know, very strong woman, and uh she

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Speaker 3: she told me a lot, you know, kept kept me going.

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Speaker 3: My coach, you know, coach Jamari, we talked and communit indicated.

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Speaker 3: So you know, talking to those two I've been talking

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Speaker 1: Man, you I've been revealing your secret. But I saw

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Speaker 1: an angry run award by your locker, right, that's a

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Speaker 1: cool thing. How cool is that to be that? And

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Speaker 1: you consider yourself an angry runner?

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Speaker 3: Ah, you know, it's it's it's a blessing, man, honestly,

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Speaker 2: You know that week is behind us. Let's try to

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Speaker 3: You put put out best for forward this week, you know,

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Speaker 3: And but it's a blessing. It's it's a big blessing.

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of guys you know, it's an accomplishment.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, it's more out

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Speaker 1: Kind of a unique thing. There's angry run tank, but

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Speaker 1: there's also speed tank. I mean, and which do you

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Speaker 1: enjoy more? Is it better to fight your way into

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Speaker 2: You know the stiff arm.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, you know, I feel like me, me running running

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Speaker 2: Then I can turn the girl on this. It's just

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Speaker 3: But I enjoy, you know, running between the tackle, running

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Speaker 1: It was interesting. I remember talking to Travis, I think

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Speaker 1: that with the run against Indy or against the Texans?

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Speaker 1: I guess we didn't quite make it, and then you

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Speaker 1: made it the next week. Yeah, so you learn a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a learning lesson, you know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like the game of football all about angles

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Speaker 3: at the running back passion, and he had a good

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Speaker 3: would have been a different thing. But it's about angles

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Speaker 3: go there. So when I got to Indy, I had

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Speaker 3: straight up. Then I got to the numbers, and you

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Speaker 3: see when I got an end zone, I cut it

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Speaker 3: across all of it because it just now the defender

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Speaker 3: got you know, then you turn right.

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Speaker 2: So it's yeah, I feel like it's about angles now.

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Speaker 1: Doug said you were turning around to make sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: taunting or was it a stiff arm or is.

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Speaker 2: It just wouldn't. I ain't no same person.

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Speaker 3: I gotta come up with a celebration though, you know, okay,

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Speaker 3: but I ain't no time person.

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Speaker 1: Now. It took it took Fred Taylor in the nineties

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Speaker 1: a long time to find his celebrations. You know, we

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Speaker 1: talked to him about that. There have been people who

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Speaker 1: have actually said you run fairly similar. Have you watched

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Speaker 1: Fred at all? Do you know much about him?

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Speaker 3: I watch Fred Fred? You know Fred do his thing

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Speaker 3: you know, he's a great run of physical, big running.

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Speaker 3: He got to speed, he got the gear. I watched

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Speaker 3: Fred and fred a compas a lot of great things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Travis, he's a great guy, great running back, cool

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Speaker 3: I mean a lot, you know, just teammate sewing that

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Speaker 3: I think in my head I'd be like, man, that

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Speaker 1: Find out think we do. We call the ozone five.

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Speaker 1: It's five quick questions, Tank Bigsby. What was your last binge?

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Speaker 2: Watch? My last binge watch?

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Speaker 2: Uh power power? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: to gospel? Okay, it was he would work. Yeah, he

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Speaker 3: I think that's the one. I don't know that was

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Speaker 3: Uh? You know in life, you know, everybody get three chances,

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Speaker 2: And you know, got you. That's how I look at it.

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Speaker 1: Very cool. Do you remember your first touchdown ever?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was seventh, ran backwards and then I ran

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Speaker 1: I just like I got to run away from direction.

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Speaker 1: That's fantastic. The person or people most responsible for you

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Speaker 3: You know God, my mom, you know my coach, and

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Speaker 2: Uh, A lot of people would have been quit, you know,

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Speaker 1: Tank. This was fantastic. I appreciate you doing this. I

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Speaker 1: know it's a busy time of year to do it.

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Speaker 1: I know the fans will enjoy getting to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Thank you for joining the ozone podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, really, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it.