1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stuff 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: I've never told your protection if iHeart radio. So, Samantha, 3 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 1: is there a computer virus that you've ever ever experienced 4 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: that comes to mind? Like one that was really annoying 5 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: or funny? Oh see, I think way back when, and 6 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean way back when, probably my first laptop that 7 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: I got, which was in college, which is twenty years ago, 8 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: probably when I had all the ad blocks, like all 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: the pop up ads that would happen that wouldn't never 10 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: go away, and I was like, what is happening? Ended 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: up being porn stuff because it was I think linked 12 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: with Napster if I if I remember correctly, and I 13 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: just kept getting one right after another. This is my 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: really religious phase when I wouldn't even watch TV because 15 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: I was trying to stay away from all of the 16 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: anti Jesus stuff and everything was anti Jesus apparently during 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: my first year of college. Year of college, and it 18 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: just kept popping up and I couldn't get rid of it. 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: That's all I can think of. Because outside of that, 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: I don't think I've had many viruses. So I have 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: two that come to mind, and I will say I've 22 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: had I've had my fair share of viruses, and I've 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: seen my my friends go through some, and they can 24 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: be just sprendous and painful, so totally understand. I had 25 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: one in high school. I got a message from I'm 26 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: assuming a dude, but I don't know what that it was. 27 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: But I got a message that said, if you don't 28 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: send me all of your like information plus this amount 29 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: of money plus some random stuff, I'm going to delete 30 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: everything on your computer. And at the time, I was 31 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: so busy I forgot about it. And there was this 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: countdown clock and the like it would count down and 33 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: I just kept forgetting and nothing happened. It got to 34 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: zero and nothing happened. I've never had that people it 35 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: was called. It was called the doomsday virus. I think 36 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: I've heard of it, but yeah, no, because you weren't 37 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: clicking on the sites, the fan fiction site I was, 38 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: I guess not. I wasn't enough for any of that, 39 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: because I'm like, if they had a doom's clock, I 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: think I would have like thrown my computer that it 41 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: was going to explode. Not that that would take things, 42 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: but I was going to explode. Yeah, I wish. I 43 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: wonder if I could find that message. I still have 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: that email my box. Anyway, my friend Marissa got this 45 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: virus where it would count down years, so I know 46 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: my inbox uh is sorted by dates like most people's are, 47 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: and it kept showing unread messages and I was like, 48 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: where are they? And I clicked on it and I 49 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: had gotten messages from like eight teen seventy seven from 50 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: Marissa because the virus count impact computer. That's amazing. I 51 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: think I would want that virus just to mess with 52 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: everyone else. It was pretty funny because it was I mean, 53 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: it was relatively harmless. It's annoying. It was definitely annoying 54 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: for her. But of the viruses you could get, I mean, 55 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: that made me laugh that I was getting these emails 56 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: from hundreds of years ago from her. But okay, so 57 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I know you might be thinking, how on the world 58 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: does this relate, because I am Yes, the topic that 59 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: we were discussing, which is chastity belts, which we mentioned 60 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: we would be talking about in our episode on Virginity 61 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: or episode would excuse me, So it relates to that. 62 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: It also relates to our episode on cyber stocking. So okay, 63 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: chasty cages have been on my mind since there was 64 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: this recent news story, and by recent I mean like 65 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: within this past year. This was pretty a couple of 66 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: months back at least, about men wearing Internet connected chassis 67 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: devices that were hijacked by a hacker who told victims quote, 68 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: your cock is mine and demanded a ransom and bitcoin 69 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: to unlock them. So, in this case, the chasti cage 70 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: is a sex item that can be placed on a 71 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: penist to prevent erections and can be unlocked remotely. I 72 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: did learn because I was curious. There's a little hole 73 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: for peeing. That's what I was worried about. It is 74 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: frequently used in the b D s M community. Um 75 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: other stories have reported on men that wear them if 76 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: they are constantly distracted by sex. Some say that they 77 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: find it challenging and empowering. So this was due to 78 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: a security flaw in the item. Fortunately, many of the 79 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: people contacted weren't wearing the device at the time, so 80 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: you had a huge relief. I was honestly worried about 81 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: these folks, And also the company and Questions says that 82 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: they've updated their security so that this will not happen again. 83 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: Other more setting takes of the modern chastis belt have 84 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: been advertised away for women to prevent sexual assaults. So 85 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: that's also a thing that we could probably come back 86 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: and talk about in a future episode, but not this one. 87 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. The fact that they exist today 88 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: has shocked me a little bit, so so happy I 89 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: could give you a news story about that. You didn't know. 90 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I did not know that this was the thing, and 91 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: the fact that it is online and connected to the 92 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: internet whole different level. I feel like like I could 93 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: believe it a thing and being used in other ways, 94 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: but the fact that is online. M hmm. I'm gonna 95 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: be thinking about this all weekend, just so you know. 96 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: But let's take a step back, okay, And then I mean, 97 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to what I knew, okay, when 98 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: we're gonna step back in the medieval chastity belts. And 99 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about this in the Virginity episodes, 100 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: as you mentioned earlier, Annie, And it turns out our 101 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: more myth than reality, and we didn't say that. So 102 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: the first known we're drawings that come from fourteen oh 103 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: five and a treatise on Instruments of War and Torture Devices, 104 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: an item that was meant to be satirical or a joke. Yes, 105 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: we said that, though they are alluded to in European 106 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: texts as far back as the first century CE. And 107 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: here's a Latin example, meant for women. Quote, hold the 108 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: helmet of salvation on your front, the word of truth 109 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: in the mouth, true love of God and your neighbor 110 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: in the chest, and the girdle of chastity in the body. 111 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: Yes it is. It actually exists. And I've heard this 112 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: before we even started these episodes. That doesn't shock me. 113 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: Just so, these belts were depicted and are in the 114 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: fifteen hundreds, woman with a middle belt around her waist, 115 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: a man holding the key. They were meant to make 116 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: sure women stayed loyal when men went to war or 117 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: things like that, because what we know is women like 118 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: to have sex, women are at war. Just kidding. However, 119 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: there's no proof that these actually existed, So then why 120 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: is this smith so prolific male fear? According to Professor 121 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: Albert Klassen, who is also the author of the Medieval 122 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: Chastity Belt, a myth making process, most of the art 123 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: that depicts chastity belt shows another man with a duplicate key, 124 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: implying that these devices are useless and women are going 125 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: to find ways to be unfaithful. I think it's also 126 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: a part of this. It was something to be laughed at. 127 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: The few chassis belt on displaying museums were made in 128 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: the Middle Ages. Yes, it's sort of like a curiosity 129 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: item or a joke. Here's the British Museum's description of theirs. 130 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: It is probable that the great majority of examples now 131 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: existing were made in the eighteenth and nineteen centuries as 132 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: curiosities for the prunient or as jokes for the tasteless. 133 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: The advice of keeping on your chastity belt was not 134 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: meant to be literal, so it's just kind of a 135 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: saying that's hilarious because we also have seen it haridied 136 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: in so many films. So yeah. In the actual spoof 137 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: of Robin Hood, which was Kevin Costner and Alan Rickman, 138 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Robin Handmann entice carry always, as well as Richard Lewis, 139 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: who plays with the character, he's the one trying to 140 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: get the chastity belt. I think a made marian who 141 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: now goes to like carry always. By the way, this 142 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: is a mel Brooks movie, so you should know it's 143 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: going to be completely inappropriate, probably very outdated, but that's 144 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: where I remember the chastity belt so vividly is because 145 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, I mean, if this was a joke, 146 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: then it was a very successful one. And I think 147 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: that's that's telling of Yeah, we believe that women are 148 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: unfaithful and always got another man in the wings. But 149 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 1: I think of Scream in the first Scream, ski l 150 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: Rich tells Nev Campbell like, oh your chastity built or 151 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: something like that in the very beginning of the movie. 152 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 1: And I remember at the time thinking that that was 153 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: a real thing and not understanding like a real modern thing. Yeah, 154 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know how many people well I don't 155 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: know that I would didn't think it was a modern 156 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: but I assumed it truly happened way back when. So 157 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: whoever created this joke, kudos, it has lasted hundreds of years. 158 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: Kudos and screw you because you play it into this 159 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: idea of purity and women being you can't believe them 160 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: and they're just property for you to protect. Yes, yes, 161 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Also just to be clear and not kink shaming the 162 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: people at the top. No, I was just realized the 163 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: whole like wireless bit was like, oh, that's dangerous. That's yeah. 164 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: I mean, in general, the Internet of things can be 165 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: a little risky, as we talked about in our cyber 166 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: stalking episode. 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