WEBVTT -  Mayhem in the Morgue | First Day

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<v Speaker 1>Hi guys, Nancy Grace here and right now, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce you to a podcast you're going to love.

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<v Speaker 1>May Him in the Morgue with our friend and colleague,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Kendall Crown's chief medical Examiner Terrant County. That's Fort Worth, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>Never a lack of business in that morgue. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the esteemed lecturer in the Burnett School of Medicine at TCU,

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<v Speaker 1>with literally thousands of death investigations under his belt. He

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<v Speaker 1>has spent a career reading silent evidence left on the body,

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<v Speaker 1>from blunt force trauma to the smallest trace that points

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<v Speaker 1>investigators in the right direction. Crowns explains how the morgue

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<v Speaker 1>holds answers to crimes no one else can decipher. Follow

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<v Speaker 1>Mayhem in the Morgue. You can find it wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts, and now here is our friend, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall Crowns.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Mayhem Anymore with your host, Doctor Kindle Crown.

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<v Speaker 2>So today's episode is first day. So everybody has first days, right,

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<v Speaker 2>We all have a first day of work, first day

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<v Speaker 2>of school, et cetera, et cetera. So today I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about one of my first days in my career.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was on my last rotation medical school. I

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<v Speaker 2>was one month away from graduating, and the rotation I

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<v Speaker 2>had chosen to take was in forensic pathology, which was

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<v Speaker 2>what I wanted to do as a career. And I

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<v Speaker 2>arrived at the medical Examiner's office, walked through the front doors,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was met by the entire staff, the medical examiners,

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<v Speaker 2>the death investigators, the clerks, everybody. They gave me a

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<v Speaker 2>little cubicle in the death investigator's office where I could

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<v Speaker 2>put all my stuff. So I set up and I

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<v Speaker 2>got ready for my day. About midday, a call came

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<v Speaker 2>in and it was possible homicide. The cheap and death

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<v Speaker 2>investigator Bill says to me, Hey, let's check this one out.

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<v Speaker 2>You're coming with me. I was super excited. I get

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a homicide scene on my very first

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<v Speaker 2>day of my medical school rotation. This is super cool.

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<v Speaker 2>So we head out and we go to this apartment

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<v Speaker 2>complex for the death that occurred. So this rotation was

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<v Speaker 2>in my hometown. I had grown up there and lived

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<v Speaker 2>there for close to twenty eight years, so this was

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<v Speaker 2>their apartment complex. I had driven past hundreds of times

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<v Speaker 2>over the years, just kind of nondescript. It was on

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<v Speaker 2>this way to an old arcade I used to go

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<v Speaker 2>to play video games and playpool at when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in high school and college. So we get there and

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<v Speaker 2>the homicide detective's already been there and they were waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for us. They were waiting in the dead guy's kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when we walk in, they're sitting in the

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<v Speaker 2>kitchen and they've made sandwiches from the dead guy's refrigerator

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<v Speaker 2>and they're sitting there eating them. And they said to Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>They go, hey, Bill, is it an homicide. This is

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<v Speaker 2>some stupid pervert. Go check him out. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>head on down the hallway to the dead guy's room

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<v Speaker 2>and when we get in there, there's pouring all over

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<v Speaker 2>the bed. Now, this is the day, is before the internet,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's paper porn. Nothing on the computer, no cell

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<v Speaker 2>phones back then, just paper porn. Dead guy's in his

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<v Speaker 2>closet and he's hanged. So at this point I had

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<v Speaker 2>read about hangings before this day. Hangings are usually, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>guy hag from a ceiling. He can be suspended, he

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<v Speaker 2>can be sitting down, it can be a number of things,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's just kind of hanged. But this one was different,

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<v Speaker 2>So how is it different. So he's hanged with a

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<v Speaker 2>white nylon rope. It's about his neck, tied with a

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<v Speaker 2>hangman's noose with thirteen coils. But then he's also completely naked.

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<v Speaker 2>He has clothes pins on his nipples and a whiffleball

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<v Speaker 2>bat jammed up his butt. He's leaning against this large

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<v Speaker 2>blue plastic barrel. Also, the rope itself had an intricate

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<v Speaker 2>mechanism associated with it. The rope went up to the

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<v Speaker 2>ceiling through an islet, then over a beam that then

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<v Speaker 2>went to another islet that was attached to the wall

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<v Speaker 2>that then attached to the side of the barrel that

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<v Speaker 2>he was sitting against. The piece attached to the barrel

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<v Speaker 2>had kind of an intricate failsafe mechanism or a tripwire

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<v Speaker 2>mechanism that was attached to the side of the barrel,

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<v Speaker 2>so essentially it was an escape mechanism. One thing to

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<v Speaker 2>know also is the beam itself had multiple grooves on

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<v Speaker 2>it from the rope, so he had done this a

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<v Speaker 2>number of times before and been successful. His fail safe

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<v Speaker 2>mechanism was if he passed out, he'd fall off the barrel,

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<v Speaker 2>it would trip the fail safe and cause the roupe

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<v Speaker 2>to become loose and completely fall off, causing the tension

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<v Speaker 2>to be released from the dead guy's neck and his

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<v Speaker 2>blood flow and his oxygen would be restored and he

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't die. But on this day, instead of falling off

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<v Speaker 2>the barrel, he kind of leaned back onto the barrel,

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<v Speaker 2>so the fail safe never fired and he died. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't expect to end up dead. So I'm looking at this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just overwhelmed. There's porn, there's a naked guy, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a whiffleball bat, there's all this stuff going on. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just sensory overwhelming to me. Never seen anything like this before.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't understand it's a hanging. But what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>So I said to Bill, uh, what's going on? Bill?

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<v Speaker 2>And Bill nonchalantly says to me, Oh, this is just

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<v Speaker 2>aerotica sixia. At that point, I had never heard about

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<v Speaker 2>erotica sixia before, and I just was like, autoerotic what

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<v Speaker 2>he goes autoerotic asicksia. What they're doing is they're masturbating

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<v Speaker 2>and they hang themselves because they think the decreased oxygen

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<v Speaker 2>to their brain will increase the pleasure. And so sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>when they're doing it, they accidentally end up dying. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm standing there just kind of overwhelmed taking this all in.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know what questions to ask at this

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<v Speaker 2>point because this is just totally confusing. So the homicide

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<v Speaker 2>detectives come down the hallway and they go, hey, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>who's the new guy. Who's the rookie? And Bill says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is Kendall Crowns. He's our medical student who's rotating

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<v Speaker 2>him with us this month. And the detectives say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>have the new guy cut him down. Have the rookie

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<v Speaker 2>cut him down. And Bill goes, hey, that's a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>He pulls a pocket knife out of his pocket and

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<v Speaker 2>he hands it to me and goes cut him down, Kendall.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, all right, I'll do that. This

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<v Speaker 2>is cool. I'm doing forensics, you know. So I crawl

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<v Speaker 2>up on this barrel. I'm standing on it. Barrel's about

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<v Speaker 2>four foot off the ground. I grab hold of that

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<v Speaker 2>rope with one hand and I start cutting with my other.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not the strongest person in the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>there is no way, even on a good day, I

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<v Speaker 2>could hold one hundred and eighty pound naked guy with

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<v Speaker 2>one hand, but I'll continue. So I'm cutting, I'm cutting,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cutting, and I'm getting through this rope. I'm getting

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<v Speaker 2>close to the end, and in my peripheral vision, I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed the homicide's detectives are stepping backwards and they're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of laughing, and Bill's stepping backwards. He's kind of laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they all know what's going to happen. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what's going to happen at this point. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>For whatever reason that day, I was so laser focused

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<v Speaker 2>on this rope and I couldn't even think of what

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<v Speaker 2>was going to happen once I got to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>So I keep cutting, and I get to the end.

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<v Speaker 2>I cut through that rope and all of a sudden, bam,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm holding one hundred and eighty pound naked guy with

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<v Speaker 2>one hand on a wabbly barrel, and one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>eighty pound naked guy falls to the ground like a

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<v Speaker 2>sack of potatoes, and I come falling right on top

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<v Speaker 2>of him. My land on him with my elbow right

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<v Speaker 2>into his abdomen. So if I'm hitting him with's my

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<v Speaker 2>elbow and his abdomen, you know where the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>me is in relation to the rest of him, so ew.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, my elbow digs into his abdomen and creates pressure,

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<v Speaker 2>and that pressure that's created forces that whiffleball bat out

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<v Speaker 2>of his button across the room. I roll off of

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<v Speaker 2>him and I jumped to my feet and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, I'm okay. No one cared if I was

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<v Speaker 2>okay at that point because they were all too busy laughing.

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<v Speaker 2>They were bent over laughing so hard. So once everybody

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<v Speaker 2>calmed down, we got out a body bag and we

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<v Speaker 2>rolled him into the body bag and Bill said to me, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're picking that bat up. Buddy handed me a pair

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<v Speaker 2>of gloves, thankfully, and I walked over and I picked

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<v Speaker 2>up that bat and I threw it in the body bag.

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<v Speaker 2>We zipped him up. Homicide detectives left probably tell everybody

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<v Speaker 2>about what happened about the stupid medical student, and we

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<v Speaker 2>waited for body transport. Body transport showed up, they picked

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<v Speaker 2>up the body, Bill told him the story. They all

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<v Speaker 2>got a good laugh head back to the medical examiner's office,

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<v Speaker 2>and the dead guy was later on autopsyed. He was found

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<v Speaker 2>his cause of death was hanging man or death was accent,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll go into why that is on another episode.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, and then that day came to an end.

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<v Speaker 2>So at the end of the goal, I learned a

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<v Speaker 2>very important lesson. I can't hold one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>pound naked guy while balancing on a barrel. Never have

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<v Speaker 2>done it again in the rest of my career. Very

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<v Speaker 2>important lesson. I always look back on it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>always think, thank goodness of Internet and cell phones weren't

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<v Speaker 2>around back then, because if they had been, I would

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<v Speaker 2>have been a viral sensation that probably would still be

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<v Speaker 2>going on for the next hundred years. So that brings

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<v Speaker 2>us to the end of the episode. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>learned something. I hope you were entertained until the next time.