WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #22

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<v Speaker 1>Colson Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, who's got ed?

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<v Speaker 3>That's not how we start these episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's how we're starting this one, Garrison, it's already begun.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what's happening

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<v Speaker 3>in the White House, the krumbling world, and what it

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<v Speaker 3>means for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay, that's right, motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 3>That's Robert Evans. I'm Garrison Davis. I'm also joined by

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<v Speaker 3>Mia Wong and James Stout. This week, we are covering

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<v Speaker 3>the week of June eighteen to June twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, a good week where nothing but good things happened,

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<v Speaker 2>assuming you are someone who manufactures thirty pound gravity utilizing

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<v Speaker 2>bunker busting bombs.

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<v Speaker 4>Thirty pound, that's quite a small one. Thirty thousand, thirty thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a thirty thousand. Sorry, Anyway, we're talking about Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna start with Iran. We're gonna start with a

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<v Speaker 4>nuclear program, and I think we should start.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to start by giving the Cool Zone Media

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<v Speaker 2>cool kid's guide for how to enrich uranium.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I don't want to get arrested robbers, now, Mia,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not illegal to tell people how to enrich uranium.

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<v Speaker 2>Google will do it, and I assume they're correct. Robert,

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<v Speaker 2>it is legal for white people to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's legal for me to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Look, if I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>one thing, it's that it's okay for white people to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about any kind of bomb on the internet. So

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be fine. I'll be fine. That's what matters, Robert.

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<v Speaker 2>Do I have kidnapping insurance? Do we have an extraction

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<v Speaker 2>team for me when I go to ice prints?

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<v Speaker 4>We do.

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<v Speaker 2>We have an extraction team, but it's not the cool

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<v Speaker 2>kind anyway. So let's talk about how to make nukes.

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<v Speaker 2>Because one thing you'll constantly hear whenever the US or

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<v Speaker 2>is Reel talks about Aron's nuclear program is that they're

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<v Speaker 2>just three to eight months away, right, there are weeks

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<v Speaker 2>so way, this is what you'll hear sometimes just takingly

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<v Speaker 2>if you three months is a number of weeks away whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And they've been saying this for longer than I've been alive.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the thing. It's technically correct, not in a way

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<v Speaker 2>that like is correct in the way they are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to push it, but in a way that is like

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<v Speaker 2>literally correct, which is that Iran paused their nuclear program

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and three. The current Ayatola has not

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<v Speaker 2>given the command to start it up again. There is

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<v Speaker 2>no evidence that it is currently operative. Back in March,

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<v Speaker 2>US military intelligence the DIA concluded that there was no

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<v Speaker 2>indication Iran had decided or attempted to restart their nuclear program.

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<v Speaker 2>That said, it has been true since two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>three that they are potentially about three months or so

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<v Speaker 2>away from having a nuke because of the way that

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<v Speaker 2>making nukes work. So in order to make the standard

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nuclear weapon that we're talking about here, you

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<v Speaker 2>need a bunch of enriched uranium, right, and there's two

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of uranium. There's two thirty five in the two

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<v Speaker 2>thirty eight, and naturally they always show up together, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's always a lot more two thirty eight than two

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five, and two thirty eight is fucking bullshit. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to make yourself a bomb, right, you want

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<v Speaker 2>the two thirty five. And I'm not going to go

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<v Speaker 2>into a ton of detail about like how you do this,

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<v Speaker 2>but because of just the nature of how uranium two

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five and two thirty eight work. They're chemically identical,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can't use chemical reactions to separate them, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So you can't use any of the easy ways that

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<v Speaker 2>you would like separate one from the other in order

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<v Speaker 2>to concentrate the kind of uranium that they want. The

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<v Speaker 2>only way to actually do that is by using a centrifuge,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, in short, uses the magic of spinning in

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<v Speaker 2>order to separate out the uranium that you want from

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<v Speaker 2>their uranium that's not very useful to you. And Iran

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<v Speaker 2>has a substantial quantity of like sixty percent enriched uranium,

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<v Speaker 2>which is basically one step away from ninety percent, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like what you need to actually build the bomb

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<v Speaker 2>that they need. And they've had a shitload of this

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<v Speaker 2>uranium sitting around for a while, right, because it keeps well,

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<v Speaker 2>and theoretically, if they were to start their program up again,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be theoretically possible to enrich it in fairly

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<v Speaker 2>short order to the concentration that you need. Right And

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<v Speaker 2>at that point, once you have a sufficient quantity, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll hear slightly different numbers, but generally agreed that they

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<v Speaker 2>have a sufficient quantity of uranium that is fairly enriched

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<v Speaker 2>that if they were to finish the process, they can

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<v Speaker 2>make somewhere between like eight to ten warheads with it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like something somewhere in that vicinity, and they could have

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<v Speaker 2>a functional warhead within a matter of weeks after enriching,

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<v Speaker 2>because enriching the uranium is the hard part. Once you've

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<v Speaker 2>done that, it's very easy to make a nuclear weapon, right,

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<v Speaker 2>sufficiently skilled people could do it with like fairly minimal

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<v Speaker 2>technology if they like. Getting the rich uranium is the

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<v Speaker 2>hard part. So it's technically true that Iran is that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, close to having a weapon. They have been

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<v Speaker 2>since two thousand and three. But the more important part

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<v Speaker 2>of the story is that they have not been working

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<v Speaker 2>on a weapon, and there's no evidence even for the

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<v Speaker 2>DA concluded in March that they were not actively working

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<v Speaker 2>on a nuclear weapon. So what's actually been going on

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<v Speaker 2>here is that while the Ayatola has not reauthorized the

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<v Speaker 2>program in quite some time, pressure has been It's been

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<v Speaker 2>generally agreed by people watching you know, Iranian politics, that

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<v Speaker 2>pressure has been building on him in order to reauthorize

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<v Speaker 2>the program. Right. There's a good CBS News article on

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<v Speaker 2>this that notes that the US Intelligence Community assessment stated

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<v Speaker 2>that there was an erosion of a decades long taboo

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<v Speaker 2>on discussing nuclear weapons in public, brought on by all

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<v Speaker 2>of the pressure against Iran by Israel. Right. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>the more Israel in the United States threaten and actually

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<v Speaker 2>do bomb Iran, the more public support there is, and

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<v Speaker 2>the more acceptable it comes to talk about restarting the program, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because continuing to bomb and attack them makes the case

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<v Speaker 2>strongly that well, we probably need one of these fucking things, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because otherwise they're simply not going to stop. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>been the lesson of the twenty first century, which is,

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<v Speaker 2>if you are a country that has beef with the

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<v Speaker 2>United States or any other nuclear power, the safest thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do is get a nuke and then get more

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<v Speaker 2>nukes as quickly as possible. Right. So that's the situation

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<v Speaker 2>that we're in. Iran has not moved any closer to

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<v Speaker 2>having a nuclear weapon over the last twenty some years,

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<v Speaker 2>but because they've got this uranium, you could always technically say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they could be months away. Right. So this all leads

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<v Speaker 2>us up to last week's strikes on Iran. These were

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<v Speaker 2>using a wing of B two bombers. Actually, there was

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<v Speaker 2>quite a few aircraft involved. Prior to the bombing attack,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of discussions, like the United States

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<v Speaker 2>preparing for much more extensive action in Iran because we

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<v Speaker 2>flew all of these different, like refueling planes all around

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<v Speaker 2>the world, and we're like setting up very clearly this

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<v Speaker 2>like massive set of infrastructure to refule and keep a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of planes in the air. Now, the reality is

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<v Speaker 2>that all of these refueling planes and whatnot were part

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<v Speaker 2>of this bombing mission. And the bombing mission did not

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<v Speaker 2>just include the seven bombers that actually struck Iran, but

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<v Speaker 2>another wing of B two bombers that flew in the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite direction as part of a feint, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>fighter jets and reconplanes that were necessary to help set

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<v Speaker 2>up and protect the whole apparatus that we were setting

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<v Speaker 2>up to get these seven B twos to the target area.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, the actual mission was about thirty seven hours,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not the longest mission B two crews have flown.

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<v Speaker 2>That was forty four hours, and it was over Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand and one. And keep a pin in

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<v Speaker 2>that because we will be talking about how successful that

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<v Speaker 2>mission was, because there's some similarities between it and what

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<v Speaker 2>was done in Iran. Now, the B twos that we

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<v Speaker 2>flew over Iran were armed with these big thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>pound bunker busting bombs, and we'll talk about these as

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<v Speaker 2>well in a while, but I want to I found

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<v Speaker 2>out there's a very interesting article on a CNN Politics

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<v Speaker 2>by Michael Williams that interviews one of the guys who

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<v Speaker 2>was part of the longest B two mission, that mission

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<v Speaker 2>over Afghanistan, who talked about like what you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do in order to carry out a mission like this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to bring it up because, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of this very shameful episode for the

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<v Speaker 2>United States, it reminds me of what makes me proud

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<v Speaker 2>of this country. And what makes me proud of this

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<v Speaker 2>country is our tendency to dose bomber pilots with massive

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<v Speaker 2>quantities of amphetamines so that they can be absolutely spun

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<v Speaker 2>off their asses when bombing a foreign country. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how you get bomber teams over to a country

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<v Speaker 2>like Iran for thirty seven hours of flight time is

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<v Speaker 2>everybody is prescribed amphetamines and they are high as shit.

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<v Speaker 2>They are pissing in ziploc bags full of kitty litter,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got a chemical toilet in the back. They're just

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<v Speaker 2>spun off of their asses, pissing into cat litter. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's how strikes like this are managed, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, except for the whole you know, Trump starting a

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<v Speaker 3>little war aspect of end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, sure, the massive civilian casualties are always a tragedy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the death of Minicent.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know it also, it was from fighter pilots

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<v Speaker 2>that we get swinger culture, and it's from fighter pilots

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<v Speaker 2>and swinger culture that we get popularized amphetamines in the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. And without that, you know, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>we actually probably wouldn't miss out on much that was

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<v Speaker 2>very good, But the.

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<v Speaker 4>Seventies would have been different.

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<v Speaker 2>The value was lost.

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<v Speaker 4>Might be better, Yeah, it might have been better.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I feel like Jefferson Airplane wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>been as good.

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<v Speaker 4>But maybe they'd be cool something else. Yeah, maybe they'd

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<v Speaker 4>been called something else.

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<v Speaker 2>So the primary munition that these B twos were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be dropping over Iran and the whole reason why

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<v Speaker 2>the United States was needed because Israel had carried out

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities. But Basically, Iran,

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<v Speaker 2>being intelligent, knew that, like, well, they're going to bomb

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<v Speaker 2>these facilities like as long as they exist, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult to get like these centrifugias made right like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the hardest part of getting a nuclear weapon is

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<v Speaker 2>getting the equipment that will allow you to enrich uranium.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's very precious and you you don't just

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<v Speaker 2>have you can't just remake it super easily. So Aron

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<v Speaker 2>buried this shit, right. They had a number of different

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<v Speaker 2>sites which were hit by both the US and Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>the most deeply buried of which was a place called

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<v Speaker 2>at a place called Fourdoh, and the actual facilities were

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<v Speaker 2>buried underneath like the ridge of a mountain, beneath ninety

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<v Speaker 2>meters or about three hundred feet of rock. Right. And

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<v Speaker 2>we have this tendency in the West in part because

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<v Speaker 2>of generations of military industry propaganda and in part because

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<v Speaker 2>the Air Force really wants you to believe this that

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<v Speaker 2>bombs are a lot more powerful than they are now.

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<v Speaker 2>Bombs are great at blowing up buildings that are just

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<v Speaker 2>hanging around on the surface of the earth, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>great at killing people. They're great at killing civilians, people

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<v Speaker 2>who are not armored or defended against them. They're awesome

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<v Speaker 2>at that. You know, what bombs suck at is going

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<v Speaker 2>more than a couple of feet below the earth. They're

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<v Speaker 2>terrible at it. Even really big bombs, even the scariest

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<v Speaker 2>bombs we've ever made, absolute dog shit at getting through,

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<v Speaker 2>especially like stone and rock. And so Israel was like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have the capacity, we don't have the technology

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<v Speaker 2>to actually like crack a facility like fourdoh. The only

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<v Speaker 2>thing that can is these bombs that can only be

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<v Speaker 2>carried by the B two, which are these thirty thousand

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<v Speaker 2>pounds bunker busters. Right. And the question that comes up

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<v Speaker 2>then is like, okay, well, this four to doah is

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<v Speaker 2>ninety meters. It was beneath ninety meters of rock. How

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<v Speaker 2>deep can these GBU fifty sevens, these massive ordnance penetrator

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<v Speaker 2>bombs which had not been used in combat before. How

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<v Speaker 2>deep can these fuckers go? Right? That seems like a

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<v Speaker 2>simple question. You will usually see most of the graphics

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<v Speaker 2>on the news will show that it penetrates sixty meters

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<v Speaker 2>right or two hundred feet, and then it detonates right,

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<v Speaker 2>which you know could do damage to a facility that's

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<v Speaker 2>buried deeper. Right, If you're detonating it like sixty meters

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<v Speaker 2>down and it goes down ninety meters, that explosion could

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<v Speaker 2>do enough extra damage that could damage a facility that's

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<v Speaker 2>just like another thirty meters below.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Theoretically, however, that doesn't tell the full story. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very indebted in this part to it in PA article

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<v Speaker 2>by Joff Brumfell, who did actually like the math. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So we figured out a long time ago when we

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<v Speaker 2>started bombing things, there's like a mathematical equation to how

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<v Speaker 2>far a bomb that's a given weight and dropped from

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<v Speaker 2>a given height and has a given explosive payload can

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<v Speaker 2>penetrate through different kind of substrates, right, that you can

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of plug that equation in. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to quote from Jeff's article right now because it

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<v Speaker 2>does a very good job of like looking at kind

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<v Speaker 2>of why this was sort of a dogshit plan from

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<v Speaker 2>the start. I went back to take a look at

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<v Speaker 2>the math from those early studies, and I found it

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<v Speaker 2>was actually straightforward. The so called penetration equations have existed

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<v Speaker 2>since the nineteen sixties and depend on a limited number

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<v Speaker 2>of factors. Including the shape of the nose cone, the

0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.040
<v Speaker 2>weight and diameter of the weapon, the speed at which

0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:48.080
<v Speaker 2>it hits the ground, and crucially, the type of earth

0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.679
<v Speaker 2>it gets dropped on. It depends enormously on the kind

0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.559
<v Speaker 2>of rocks, as Raymond gene Laws, the professor at the

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<v Speaker 2>University of California, Berkeley and one of the original authors

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<v Speaker 2>of the two thousand and five National Academic Study and

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<v Speaker 2>Earth Penetrators, When I ran the calculations using a key

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<v Speaker 2>equation from that study, I found that the GBU fifty

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<v Speaker 2>seven could go up to eighty meters underground if it

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<v Speaker 2>was dropped in salty clay. In medium strength rock, things

0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.200
<v Speaker 2>looked far different. The GBU fifty seven could only go

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<v Speaker 2>around seven point nine meters beneath the earth. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>not nearly the sixty meters that you're seeing claimed on

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<v Speaker 2>most and it's nowhere close to ninety, right, And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a good amount of data we already have. Trump obviously

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<v Speaker 2>claimed as soon as we did this bombing run, because

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<v Speaker 2>we dropped a fairly heavy cluster of these bombs, twelve

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<v Speaker 2>on four to zero, and Trump's claim was that, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was completely destroyed. His press secretary said when you

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<v Speaker 2>dropped twelve thirty thousand pound bombs with perfect precision on

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<v Speaker 2>a target, there's only one result, complete destruction. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>not true even if you just like look at the

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<v Speaker 2>past of us using these weapons. I mentioned earlier that

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and one mission to Afghanistan that was US

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<v Speaker 2>trying to blow up that's purported like cave fortress that

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<v Speaker 2>been laden had.

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<v Speaker 4>You may have seen the diagram in Tora Bora, and

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't work because it's really hard for all of

0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:08.160
<v Speaker 2>our technological might, it's very hard to blow up something

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<v Speaker 2>buried under rock. Like it doesn't matter how many of

0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:15.079
<v Speaker 2>these giant bombs you have, we're shit at it. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still some debate. The DIA assessment says that basically

0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:21.440
<v Speaker 2>we did damage, but it was at most maybe enough

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<v Speaker 2>to knock them back by eight months, and probably less

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<v Speaker 2>than that. Right, it's kind of debatable, and we don't

0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.840
<v Speaker 2>have perfect data on this, right, I don't know that

0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Iran has perfect data on this, because one thing we

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<v Speaker 2>can confirm is that the bombing sealed the entrances, so

0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.880
<v Speaker 2>it's possible they can't get into fod Oh quite yet. Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's going to be some work needed to do to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to get these facilities if they were to

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<v Speaker 2>do that, which again they were not based on US

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<v Speaker 2>military intelligence, we're not doing prior to the bombing, But

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<v Speaker 2>based on satellite imagery, it does not look like there's

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<v Speaker 2>not really good evidence that we did any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>significant damage. There's some reports that some centrifugias were damaged,

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<v Speaker 2>but those reports state that other centrifugions were intact. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those things where like there's not any strong evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact, the DIA's report suggests that, like the

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<v Speaker 2>damage done was fairly minimal, given the extreme cost of

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<v Speaker 2>this operation and the brags that the administration has been

0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.280
<v Speaker 2>making that like they totally destroyed these facilities, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>We simply did not totally destroy these facilities. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a little too early to say so precisely, like how

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<v Speaker 2>bad is this? Right, But you know, again that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the early data, is that, like the DIA assessment says,

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<v Speaker 2>we set them back maybe a few months at most.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the fun things about this is that Iran

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<v Speaker 2>moved their uranium prior to the bombing, right, Like, you

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<v Speaker 2>can't really move these giant centrifuges or these big underground facilities.

0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.440
<v Speaker 2>But you can take the uranium and you can just

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<v Speaker 2>drive at places and we don't know exactly where they

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<v Speaker 2>hit it. The head of the IAEA, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>International Atomic Energy Commission, has already come out and said, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea where Iran's uranium is. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>the job the IEA's job is to account for every

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<v Speaker 2>fucking gram of uranium held by every country in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Right they are supposed to know at all times where

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<v Speaker 2>it is. And he's like, I have no fucking idea, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't know where it is, and we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>how much dammage is double, we don't know where this is.

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<v Speaker 2>There is at least one report stating that Iron's plan

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<v Speaker 2>was basically load this up into the trunks of a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of cars and park them in public parking lots,

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<v Speaker 2>because they probably they're not going to bomb a public

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<v Speaker 2>parking lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Outside of like a store, which is really funny, actually fair,

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<v Speaker 1>the US might do that.

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<v Speaker 4>A Israel will send me bomb a fucking parking they

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<v Speaker 4>hit a press which park there's so many yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and they'll pray a shell game, right like they will

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<v Speaker 4>send hundreds of trucks and vans from every location. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 4>they'll send.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the funniest thing in terms of it also

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<v Speaker 2>points out how doomed efforts like this are where you're

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<v Speaker 2>just like, well, with our technology and our fancy stealth bombers,

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<v Speaker 2>we clearly we should be able to figure this out.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, nah, we're just gonna park We need

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred cars. We'll bring in six hundred cars and

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<v Speaker 2>we'll park them randomly all around the country. Fuck you,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do? Bomb every parking lot? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's very funny quote.

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<v Speaker 3>From parking lot bombed? What are you gonna do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Anyway, that's uh. What's going on with us bombing Iran?

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<v Speaker 2>And so again? Very expensive? Yeah, probably did not do much.

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<v Speaker 4>Trump the dove strikes again the peace Maker? They going

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<v Speaker 4>them the peace Maker.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll talk about the peace bullshit after this. We

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<v Speaker 2>should throw to ads first.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you note from Grumman for sponsoring the segment.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back. So like the four to oh nuclear enrichment facility,

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is between a rock and a hard place with

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<v Speaker 2>with this whole carrying out illegal stripes on a sovereign

0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.919
<v Speaker 2>nation thing of a jig in that he came. He

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<v Speaker 2>came to power a large part by promising, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to do a World War three. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>all these democrats are crazy warmongers, but not old Donnie t.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you can you can trust me to be

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<v Speaker 2>a peacemaker. And then he fucking bombs Iran, which is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a major escalation, right, so, and we're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna There's been people arguing with this have happened under

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<v Speaker 2>Kamala Yaddia. I don't don't. I don't give a shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't read a shit. It's happening now, fucking fuck off,

0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Like it's not it's not worth talking about that. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what's happening, which is that this is a

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<v Speaker 2>major escalation. But Trump has had to He's kind of

0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.960
<v Speaker 2>been hedging between like, yeah, look at how fucking cool

0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:36.919
<v Speaker 2>our weapons are. We fuck them up so bad and

0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.200
<v Speaker 2>also and now it's time for peace. We have to

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<v Speaker 2>stop the violence. Why don't you guys come to the table,

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<v Speaker 2>let's all be friends.

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<v Speaker 3>And getting pretty pissed at the Israeli governments.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, because he announced a ceasefire and Iran was like

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<v Speaker 2>after striking back and hitting US bases in a number

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.240
<v Speaker 2>of countries, was like, okay, we're done. Like we did

0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:57.239
<v Speaker 2>the thing we had, we did the face saving thing.

0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.600
<v Speaker 2>We have to launch missiles after youbamas. We can't not

0:18:59.720 --> 0:19:02.240
<v Speaker 2>do that. But we did it. We got our strike off,

0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.360
<v Speaker 2>and we're not going to continue if you guys don't continue, right,

0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.720
<v Speaker 2>And Trump was like, I did it. I made peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at look at how good I am. And then

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<v Speaker 2>Israel immediately starts carrying out more strikes, and Trump is,

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<v Speaker 2>are we gonna play the audio of in cursing on TV?

0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Because it's very good. Here's here's Trump being confronted about this, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>within hours of this Israeli strikes.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what we have? We basically have two countries

0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that have been fighting so long and so hard that

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know what the fuck they're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you understand that? What?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a pissed off man, and he's pissed off again.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think people are generally wrong when they're like, oh,

0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Trump's much better on Israel because he can confront net Yahoo.

0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:45.639
<v Speaker 2>That hasn't really proved to be the case yet. But

0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:49.600
<v Speaker 2>unlike Biden, Trump clearly doesn't care about like he's willing

0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:52.720
<v Speaker 2>to be pissed at net Yahoo, and he was really pissed.

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.800
<v Speaker 3>In this openly, like absolutely openly.

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<v Speaker 2>Very yet because again he's hanging a lot on like

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<v Speaker 2>nobody would dare go back to war when I said

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.399
<v Speaker 2>they were at peace? Right, Like that's that this is

0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 2>like an ego thing for him more than anything. He

0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.159
<v Speaker 2>certainly doesn't give a shit about the human cost of

0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:10.719
<v Speaker 2>any of this. But yeah, and so that's where we

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.119
<v Speaker 2>are right now. Are we done? Will there continue to

0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 2>be more strikes and retaliation strikes. Something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not done right, None of it's done no. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, also, Iran's not stupid, right. This is a

0:20:24.840 --> 0:20:28.520
<v Speaker 2>country that has been in these circumstances and in variations

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.080
<v Speaker 2>of this conflict for a long time. And they are

0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.399
<v Speaker 2>neither foolish nor suicidal. So they're not going to be

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 2>completely reckless here, right, Like I think you're seeing in

0:20:38.480 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 2>what you've seen is pretty calculated responses where they are

0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 2>aware of how much they think they can push when

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<v Speaker 2>and where right, And so you know, I think we're

0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:51.159
<v Speaker 2>likely to like I don't know that. I think the

0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 2>escalation ladder is in like a runaway state. I don't

0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.000
<v Speaker 2>see that evidence right now. But this is not the

0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 2>end of this, right.

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something we got news of today in the last

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<v Speaker 1>this is Wednesday. We got this in the last hour

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<v Speaker 1>or so. Is that Trump like said on TV the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you're not actually supposed to say, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that the US and Iran coordinated to have the Iran

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<v Speaker 1>shoot these bases.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like okay, like they like we literally went on TV

0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and said, quote, you saw that working vessels were shot

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<v Speaker 1>at us the other day, and Iran was very nice.

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 1>They said, we're gonna shoot them at one at one Okay,

0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I said, it's fine, everybody evacuated, not the basis. Like

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:36.240
<v Speaker 1>obviously the US has always done this, but like we've

0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:39.080
<v Speaker 1>never had the president go on TV and just say, yeah,

0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 1>we let Iran shoot empty military basis.

0:21:42.280 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we worked it out with them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>This highlights something that's so interesting when I when I

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<v Speaker 2>say this, I don't mean to ignore the fact that

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.639
<v Speaker 2>real people are dying, like particularly in Iran. It's horrifying,

0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 2>But there is a massive degree of this at the

0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:00.320
<v Speaker 2>at the that the nation state level that is cafe, right,

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 2>and that that proves it, like Iran is like okay, look.

0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.399
<v Speaker 3>K fa with the cost of like yeah, thousands of lives.

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:06.960
<v Speaker 2>People will die.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's it's dick measuring.

0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 2>The fact that Iron is only to talk with you

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.359
<v Speaker 2>us about like okay, what can we strike that's not

0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 2>going to escalate things for you, like yeah, we'll pull

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.399
<v Speaker 2>you know whatever. And also that's to a degree that

0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:18.640
<v Speaker 2>was going on with the strikes on Iran, right where

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.720
<v Speaker 2>they got enough of a warning that they were able

0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 2>to move their physical material right, like this is there,

0:22:24.800 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Which is not to say that like things are like

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<v Speaker 2>copasetic and friendly, but everybody's got everybody, but Israel has

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<v Speaker 2>like a vested interest in things not escalating too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Even the Trump administration, right has a vested interest in

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a line we don't want to cross because

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<v Speaker 2>we just don't see any like benefit in it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And that is that is a part of what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Yeah, anyway, that's probably enough talk about Iran

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<v Speaker 2>and news and stuff. But anyway, remember folks, you too

0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.160
<v Speaker 2>could be a nuclear power if you can just figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how to make a functional centrifuge and get a

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<v Speaker 2>shitload of uranium, you know, it's not that hard. It

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<v Speaker 2>just comes out of the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>Youah, depending on where that ground is.

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<v Speaker 2>Depending on where that ground is.

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<v Speaker 4>Should we talk about immigration? Sure, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>I love immigration.

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<v Speaker 4>Sadly Robert Congress does not agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>They rarely do.

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<v Speaker 4>They rarely do. Yeah, that is one of the things

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<v Speaker 4>they say about Robert Evans. I want to start, actually

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<v Speaker 4>with a little disclaimer rant. Almost every day for the

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<v Speaker 4>past six months, someone has sent me a tip saying

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<v Speaker 4>that ICE are raiding a hospital. This has happened almost

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<v Speaker 4>every month for the past ten years. I have received

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 4>this tip thousands of times. To my knowledge, it has

0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 4>never been true. Nonetheless, this rumor persists, and especially among

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 4>people who might be newer to migrant advocacy or newer

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<v Speaker 4>to observing immigration enforcement. What is happening in one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>percent of these cases that I have looked into, is

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<v Speaker 4>Customs of Border Protection or ICE or some other immigration

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:06.359
<v Speaker 4>detention agency is taking somebody who is in their custody

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<v Speaker 4>to the hospital, and then that person is getting treatment

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 4>and then they are released again to that immigration agency. Normally,

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<v Speaker 4>those immigration agents can't enter non public areas of the hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>i e. Treatment rooms, but it can enter public areas,

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<v Speaker 4>I e. Lobbies. This rumor, which continues to spread, which

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen people including journalists sharing on social media, kills people, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm aware of one incident in which someone was having

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<v Speaker 4>a medical emergency and didn't want to go to hospital,

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 4>a medical emergency which could very well have killed them

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.639
<v Speaker 4>within hours, and didn't want to go to hospital because

0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:46.439
<v Speaker 4>they had heard the ice was at the hospitals. I

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<v Speaker 4>understand that people are coming to this with varying levels

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<v Speaker 4>of experience. It's cool, it's great that people are showing

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<v Speaker 4>up for migrants, but people need to exercise caution around

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<v Speaker 4>this because it is not harmless to spread that rumor

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<v Speaker 4>unless you are absolutely certain that it is true. It

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 4>hurts people, and I keep seeing it, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>it's important to say something about it, including two other journalists. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>with that said, let's start with some good news about immigration.

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<v Speaker 4>Ice agents in San Diego scattered from the San Diego

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<v Speaker 4>Court when the newly appointed San Diego Bishop Michael Farm,

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<v Speaker 4>who is himself a refugee. He was an accompanied miner

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<v Speaker 4>from Vietnam, entered the court to accompany people to their

0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 4>immigration hearings. Bishop Farm was joined by Immam Taha Hassane.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying that correctly. Of the Islamic Center of San

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<v Speaker 4>Diego and our Lady of Guadaloupe Church, Pastor Scott Santa Rossa,

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<v Speaker 4>they say they're going to keep doing this quote as needed.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is actually one of the very few things,

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<v Speaker 4>at least in court houses that seems to have worked. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>We've covered this in previous weeks that what is happening

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<v Speaker 4>is that the government is dismissing the case against people

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 4>and then in me detaining them and forcing them to

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<v Speaker 4>fight for their asylum well detained. Right, this has been

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:09.200
<v Speaker 4>happening all across the country. San Diego is the only

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 4>place I'm aware of where religious leaders right from across

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<v Speaker 4>the religious community are accompanying migrants to their detention hearings.

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.400
<v Speaker 4>So we saw Brad Lander doing this in New York politician,

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 4>but this is the only instance I'm aware of where

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 4>clerics are doing it, and it seems to have worked.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems to have in this incidence or in these instances,

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 4>prevented ice from detaining people. And like, I'm not a

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.560
<v Speaker 4>religious person myself, but I will say that I respect this.

0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 4>I think this is this is cool. I've reported before.

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<v Speaker 4>I spoke a lot about Jesuits in the Darien Gap

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<v Speaker 4>and the how impressed and in awe of their work

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<v Speaker 4>with migrants. I am, and I think this is another

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<v Speaker 4>example of like people organizing with groups that they might

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 4>not normally organize with, but that having really beneficial results.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Huge win for the woke Marxist pope as well, So

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<v Speaker 4>it's good to see.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, hell yeah, huge one for Marxism this week.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:08.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, generally a big week for Marxism in other years.

0:27:08.160 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 4>A district court has ordered another man, Geordian and Alexander

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 4>Melga Saint Maron, returned from El Salvador. He's Salvadorean, but

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<v Speaker 4>he was removed thirteen minutes after a court order barred

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 4>his removal, and thus he was removed in violation of

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 4>that court order. Right, and the district court has ordered

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 4>him returned. I'm not aware if he's being returned yet.

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:35.480
<v Speaker 4>On Wednesday, we shall see, I guess. Because the Supreme

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 4>Court has allowed the Trump administration this week to continue

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<v Speaker 4>removing migrants to countries which are not specifically noted on

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:44.840
<v Speaker 4>their removal orders.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>We spoke about this before in the case of the

0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:50.880
<v Speaker 4>attempt of the DODA to remove people to South Sudan.

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 4>We've spoken about it in terms of removing people to

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 4>El Salvador who are not themselves Salvadorean. Right, this isn't

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 4>really deportation. I think rendition is a more accurate way

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 4>to describe it, and it will certainly result in people

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 4>facing hardship and more likely than not, people facing torture

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 4>and probably being killed. It is a disaster. It was

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:14.760
<v Speaker 4>a very short and unsigned order, and the justices it

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 4>wasn't a final decision that they paused the Massachusetts District

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 4>Court ruling, which had in turn paused the process. So

0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 4>the process is now ongoing again. It's worth noting that

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 4>the Massachusetts District Court ruling didn't stop them doing it.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 4>It allowed them a meaningful attempt at expressing their reasonable

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<v Speaker 4>fear of torture.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Three justices dissented, so to Mayor, Keegan and Jackson. So

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 4>to Mayor wrote the descent I'm just going to quote

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 4>from it here briefly, apparently quote the court finds the

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 4>idea that thousands will suffer violence in far flung locals

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 4>more palatable than the remote possibility that a district court

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 4>exceeded its remedial powers when it ordered the government to

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<v Speaker 4>provide no and process to which the plaintiffs are constitutionally

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 4>and statutorily entitled. As she pointed out, the government was

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 4>seeking relief from this order in Supreme Court, but had

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 4>also been openly flouting here. Right. This flouting of lower

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 4>court orders lines up with Ares Ruveni, a DOJ lawyer

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:24.280
<v Speaker 4>who was fired for I guess not following the DJ

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 4>line in the Aberagogavcia case. He filed a whistleblower complaint

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 4>in Congress this week that the NAT has seen. You

0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 4>can read the whole article in the show notes, but

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 4>in there you can hear Emil Bouvet, who's he was

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 4>Trump's personal laurre in twenty twenty three. Trump is now

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.320
<v Speaker 4>nominated him to be a judge. That he tells DOJ

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 4>lawyers that they need to be open to responding fuck

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.640
<v Speaker 4>you to court orders. The allegations in a whistleblower complaint

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 4>are pretty concerning, right, in terms of the ability of

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 4>the courts to stop the DOJ doing anything. I would

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 4>urge you to read it. It's going to be linked

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 4>in the show notes. We don't really have time to

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 4>summarize all of it. Here, but I think I think

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 4>the fuck you comment summarizes it pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And speaking of things that you should buy, here's ads.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back. And since we've just done ads, let's let

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<v Speaker 2>James give an ad for something that's not a product

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<v Speaker 2>or service but is better. Yeah, better of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>If you have any money left after investing in all

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<v Speaker 4>the wonderful goal their appetites. Who want to tell you?

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<v Speaker 4>One of the people who we have interviewed on this

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<v Speaker 4>show extensively, who came into the acted strates through Kumba

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<v Speaker 4>and who provided us with a really in depth account

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<v Speaker 4>of his immigration detention, has let me know that he

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<v Speaker 4>is struggling to find a lawyer and pay for a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 4>So far, he's been taking care of all of his

0:31:01.520 --> 0:31:04.959
<v Speaker 4>legal paperwork himself, which is very admirable, but obviously, like

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 4>many migrants, he understands his chance of the success will

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 4>be much much better with a lawyer, something he himself

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<v Speaker 4>is struggling to pay for right now, whilst also supporting

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<v Speaker 4>a family. If you would like to help, the link

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<v Speaker 4>for that is www dot GoFundMe dot com slash f

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<v Speaker 4>slash Standing with our Family. It will also be the

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<v Speaker 4>first link in the sources for this episode, So if

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<v Speaker 4>you're listening on your podcast app, you can scroll down

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<v Speaker 4>to the show notes find it there, click it and

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<v Speaker 4>help out if you'd like to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think it's time for Gehar's good news roundup,

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:45.360
<v Speaker 3>and let's start with some actually like fantastic news. My

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>mood Khalil has been released after one hundred and four

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 3>days in ice custody. He missed the birth of his

0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>first child. Was it his first time meeting his child

0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 3>or did he get to meet his child?

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I think he'd gotten one visit where he got to

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 2>meet his kid, if I'm if I'm remembering directly. It's

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>still kind of about two thirds of the way through

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>his detainment.

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.480
<v Speaker 3>But now he is back in New York right as

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 3>his case will continue. This is a good step in

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 3>the fight against disappearing people for political differences, Like this

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 3>is important fight. This is possibly like the one of

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 3>the most important like national pieces of news. That's still

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 3>a developing story right now.

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:31.080
<v Speaker 2>I've seen some responses that are like, yeah, so after

0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:34.080
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and four days of being illegally detained, you know,

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:37.800
<v Speaker 2>a guy finally got released. This is still a bad thing,

0:32:37.840 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>and like that's true. This is a bleak story. But

0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>like it's actually kind of like foolish to not acknowledge

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>this as a significant win, right, Like it's important.

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 3>They did not want to release him. They wanted to

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 3>keep him forever.

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 2>They did not want to release him. Yes, this is good.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.320
<v Speaker 2>This is a good thing, and it's proof that it

0:32:56.400 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 2>is worth fighting because you can win.

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like every day he's not in jail and that

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 4>he's with his family is a better day.

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, is a win. Yeah, it's a victory. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Also some good news in New York. It is so quover.

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<v Speaker 3>Zoran Mamdani won the Democratic primary for the mayor of

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>New York City Tuesday night. This is quite exciting. I

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 3>got to announce to a massive room full of trans

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 3>people that Quomo conceded to Zoron, and I have not

0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 3>felt better in months. It was like the one of

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.800
<v Speaker 3>the brightest rays of hope that we've had and a

0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 3>rejection of like the old Democratic Party establishment. Yes, Zoron

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.320
<v Speaker 3>had to beat like thirty million dollars of super Pac

0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 3>funding against him. He mobilized the youth vote in ways

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 3>we've never seen before in New York. A quarter of

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 3>early voters for first time that Democratic primary participants. Zoran

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 3>ran a very very solid campaign with slick videos online

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 3>and on TV multil which outreach fifty thousand like on

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 3>street volunteers, canvassing, door knocks, phone baking, and a distinct

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 3>focus on affordability, including freezing rent, free buses, pilot program

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 3>for city run grocery stores, free to low cost childcare,

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 3>raising minimum wage, and resisting Trump's efforts to use ice

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 3>to deport New Yorkers. Myself and Mia did a full

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 3>episode yesterday if you want to have a more in

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 3>depth look at the New York mayor role primary.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We should also note here that per a CBS

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:36.560
<v Speaker 2>New York interview with former Governor Cuomo, he has stated

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 2>that he is considering running against Mom Donnie as an independent.

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how that goes. We might get to

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>see Cuomo lose twice in a year, which would be

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 2>pretty funny.

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would be surprised if he

0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 3>actually decides to run in the general. A lot of

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 3>like like Ackman is going behind Adams. It seems they're

0:34:55.560 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 3>certainly going to be targeting from like Republicans and maybe

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 3>even some den establishments.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, sure, definitely.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 4>So to like.

0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 3>Remove zoran as like a viable candyate, they're going to

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.719
<v Speaker 3>pull out some crazy like red scare communist shit from

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 3>the fifties. Absolutely, they might try to remove his legal

0:35:12.440 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 3>status as a citizen, like they're gonna pull out the stops.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 3>But this is like after the twenty twenty four elench

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 3>this is like the first first like clear look at

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 3>what a new Democratic party could look like. And right

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 3>now is the face of Zorrong. Yeah that's all I have.

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know, it's nice to see a win again.

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like the Mahud Khalil thing. Right, It's it's nice, absolutely,

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 2>like this is this is good things can happen. Now

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 2>does this mean is this a part of a fucking

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.239
<v Speaker 2>progressive wave that's sweeping the country? Does this prove that,

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, being pro Palestine and pro trans is the

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 2>best electoral strategy in one hundred percent of districts? Now,

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>like this is this is New York. We like, this

0:35:56.640 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 2>is one election, but it's like good news and it

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>it I think there's a very solid possibility that we

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 2>will see this as like part of a growing trend

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:11.360
<v Speaker 2>that when candidates are actually left wing and unabashedly so

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 2>when they don't try to tack to the middle, when

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:17.359
<v Speaker 2>they don't try to embrace, you know, a hodgepodge of

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.880
<v Speaker 2>like contradictory policies in order to please some sort of

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>like farcical median theoretical median voter, that they do better.

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>I do think that, like maybe that's what we'll see.

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>But you know, obviously one election in New York City

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:33.320
<v Speaker 2>is not a one one primary in New York City

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 2>isn't enough to prove that like this is going to

0:36:35.880 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>be the same kind of thing we see nationwide.

0:36:38.360 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but it did show how to mobilize like

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 3>a huge number of like young people and like a

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 3>lot of a lot of like young men, which which

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 3>the Democratic Party has been like whining about for the

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 3>past few months terrible about.

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's a big deal.

0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Like how how how do we reach out to the

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>young men in this country? And like Zoron showed you

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:58.919
<v Speaker 3>how to do this. It's actually fighting for like real

0:36:59.040 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 3>things that make your life.

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 2>You can get people excited about your candidacy. If you're

0:37:04.040 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 2>standing for something and getting people excited, it's even more

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:10.000
<v Speaker 2>important than just being like, well, this theoretically polls the best,

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.359
<v Speaker 2>because if you do take all the positions that poll well,

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 2>but nobody gives a shit and you don't have any

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of excitement or the ability to build like a

0:37:17.840 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 2>grassroots ground game, then you'll do worse. Like if you

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.919
<v Speaker 2>have that behind you, if you have all that enthusiasm,

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 2>you can make less popular positions more popular. That's how

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 2>politics works, right, Look at Trump, you know, like the

0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 2>whole everyone's always wondering, like how does he get away

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 2>with all these things that were forbidden for so long?

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Is because he had a lot of enthusiasm behind them,

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and that wave allowed him to push a bunch of boundaries.

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 4>And like, that's how it works.

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:48.200
<v Speaker 2>It can work the other way too, if you try,

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:51.200
<v Speaker 2>if you're not just gutless, if you're not a fucking shumer.

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>So in less good news and the less good news,

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean really really horrible news.

0:37:58.120 --> 0:37:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Terrible news.

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So last week we got the results of the

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>United States versus Crimmetti. I think most trans people have

0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.280
<v Speaker 1>been expecting that this was going to be really bad,

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:12.160
<v Speaker 1>but it was. It was, I guess technically not as

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>bad as it theoretically could have been, but this ruling

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 1>was there was a six' three ruling that Upholds tennessee's

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:23.959
<v Speaker 1>yeah ban on gender affirming care for. Minors that ban,

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:28.040
<v Speaker 1>IS i, mean just like hideously. Illegal it's like very

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously sass. Discrimination The Supreme court gave Genuinely LIKE i

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:37.320
<v Speaker 1>had a friend described it as like we're just in

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>Pure calvin ball, Land like it's if you read the,

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:44.960
<v Speaker 1>decision it's fucking. Nonsense it's. Gibberish that also makes it

0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:46.840
<v Speaker 1>hard to figure out what it's gonna do because the

0:38:47.320 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 1>legal reasoning is just so unbelievably.

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:53.399
<v Speaker 3>Nonsense like it leaves it it leaves in place the

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:58.560
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty ruling on sex discrimination in the workplace for

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>trans people, intact but it invents this new justification that

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 3>you can discriminate against trans people if you're discriminating against

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:11.720
<v Speaker 3>gender dysphoria as a, diagnosis specifically not necessarily them being,

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 3>trans but the ability to treat gender.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>Dysphoria, yeah it's really really fucking. Weird i'm probably gonna

0:39:19.360 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>do like a full episode looking at like like bringing

0:39:22.400 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>into actual legal people to talk about what the legal

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>impacts are going to. Be this is really. Bad this

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:30.719
<v Speaker 1>means that like twenty five states bans on gender firm

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>and care go into. Effect one of the worst parts

0:39:35.040 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 1>of this right is that you, know and this is

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest issues with like targeting and trans

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>kids in, general is that just the structure of the

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:45.759
<v Speaker 1>family and if childhood makes it really hard to help

0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 1>these kids because they're significantly more isolated than trans. Adults,

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>right it's harder for trans kids to find. Community it's

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 1>harder for the community to find.

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Them.

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Yep and because of the structures in place, here, like

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 1>they are denied the autonomy to keep. Living and if

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>their parents decide to just be, like fuck, you we're

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 1>just Doing we're going to do conversion therapy on you

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>by refusing to let you, transition they can do, that

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's extremely hard to resist.

0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:09.040
<v Speaker 4>It.

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah the root of so much, AUTHORITARIANISM i would all,

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>argue like the absolute core of the fascist movement is

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 2>the idea that parents own their. Children, yeah and that

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.120
<v Speaker 2>like that is the most that is the single most

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 2>important property right that, exists is your ownership of.

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 4>Kids i'm going to, say it's bed time if we

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 4>really get to the core of, it isn't, It, Rob,

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 4>yeah it's.

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.840
<v Speaker 3>No rubert's going full like no future queer, Theory LIKE

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 3>I i agree with.

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 4>You, no he's, Right, no.

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>This is THE i don't think this is even debatable

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:43.600
<v Speaker 2>as someone who has raised in. It it's, this and

0:40:43.640 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it's not a simple, problem right because like kids

0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:51.240
<v Speaker 2>are not adults and shouldn't like have full autonomy about,

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 2>choices like you, know because they'll they don't understand the world.

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Fully there's a degree to which kids need to be like.

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.400
<v Speaker 3>Guided, yeah you should stop a child if they're going

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 3>to walk into the street and get hit by a,

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.799
<v Speaker 3>bus right, yeah like grab a, fire or.

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>If they only want to eat candy for, dinner right like,

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 2>That there are, limits but the idea of, it like

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:15.400
<v Speaker 2>and so parents own their. Kids they're like that that

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 2>is just it's pure poison and it's killing us all

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 2>and like more, broadly like guys who hate that kids

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 2>are the fucking forefront of fascism right, Now like, Yeah

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 2>Elon musk Bought twitter because he hates his, daughter, yes

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 2>more more than if any any other.

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:33.359
<v Speaker 4>Thing like it's, uh, yeah it's a repugnant. Ideology it's.

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:36.919
<v Speaker 2>Disgusting, yeah, yeah, anyway we'll do some sort of more

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 2>detailed look at this that like that at some, point

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 2>BUT i think we've you, know covered the.

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 1>News, YEAH i, MEAN i think the last the last

0:41:45.080 --> 0:41:46.360
<v Speaker 1>THING i want to say about that is, like if

0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>your trans AND i know this was a bigger thing

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:51.600
<v Speaker 1>in the immediate wake of last, week but keep.

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 4>Living yeah, yeah, yeah stay.

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Alive maybe get a passport because you can do that right.

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:00.400
<v Speaker 2>Now there's a lot of benefit even if you're not

0:42:00.400 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>going to, travel if you don't have the money to,

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:03.879
<v Speaker 2>travel there's a lot of benefit in having THAT. Id.

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah we're all going to see the sun rice

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>together like we, are and it's going to be.

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Beautiful but do you know who won't is a man

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 3>From norway who will probably never be seeing The United

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:16.200
<v Speaker 3>states ever.

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Again, god oh my. God, Okay, Garrison.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 3>So to finish this, episode we're going to talk about

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 3>the one deportation we're kind of allowed to laugh. At

0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:28.360
<v Speaker 3>not because the guy is. Bad the guy seems perfectly,

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:31.960
<v Speaker 3>fine but the circumstances around the deportation are so. Bizarre

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.560
<v Speaker 3>it's wild, shit and it Affects. Norway so it's you,

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 3>know it's like, Whatever garrison Anti norwegian action over no

0:42:40.440 --> 0:42:42.799
<v Speaker 3>offense To. Norway i'm just, like it's it's not, like

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:44.800
<v Speaker 3>this guy's getting deported to a place where he's in.

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:48.360
<v Speaker 4>DANGER i love You, norwegians even If garrison. Doesn't this

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 4>is not a guy who's going to. Suffer he's not

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 4>going To South, suda, beer.

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Life threatening or. Whatever he's. Fine.

0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah norwegian man was coming to The United states for

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 3>vacation and at the border check point AND i Think,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 3>newark he was questioned and handed over his. Phone on the,

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 3>phone porter agents found a photoshopped picture of BABY jd

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.880
<v Speaker 3>v sorry of bald BABY Jd. Vance. Yeah, Yeah and

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 3>for this reason was BABY jd denied entry into into

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 3>The United states and deported back.

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:23.440
<v Speaker 1>To Your.

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:25.799
<v Speaker 4>Thomas country On.

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Earth, anyway said photo has now been shown in The

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Irish parliament because we live in a it's, beautiful the world's.

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Beautiful they're Deporting norwegians FOR Jd vance. Memes, now this

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 3>is the level that we are, at like The party

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Of Free speech deporting people who has OF Jd vance

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:49.319
<v Speaker 3>memes on their.

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Phone, like on the one, HAND i think you can

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>make the argument that fascism has always been this, Stupid

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>like Google Google mussolini's headquarters and look at that.

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:03.359
<v Speaker 4>Building it is this dumb but like good, lord LIKE

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 4>i just oh my, god personal.

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Vanity there's such fucking tiny babies about. It like that's,

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:11.839
<v Speaker 1>like that's like the really defining characteristic of this era

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>of fascism is that if you make fun of them

0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the tiniest, bit it is the worst Consequences i've ever

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.640
<v Speaker 1>suffered in their entire. Lives and they fucking lose their

0:44:19.680 --> 0:44:21.359
<v Speaker 1>mind that everyone doesn't fucking love.

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Them, yeah they they're they're fully like willing and like

0:44:24.719 --> 0:44:28.360
<v Speaker 3>desire to use the complete mte of the states to

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 3>uh to step on anyone who dares defy their, authority

0:44:32.440 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 3>even even when that defiance is manifested through having a

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 3>picture of BABY. Jd evans with a bald head like,

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.279
<v Speaker 3>that that is too. FAR i DON'T i don't know

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.520
<v Speaker 3>what else to say about baldy ju.

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:49.120
<v Speaker 2>You, know get get a, tattoo get a full facial,

0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>tattoo or like a bin afflet guy.

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 3>Denaturalized for YOUR jd events back.

0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:00.640
<v Speaker 2>Tattoo you can't punish you not for a. Tattoo Uh,

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 2>no it, is it.

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 3>Is it is funny how much vance in The Border

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.279
<v Speaker 3>patrol do not understand the barber strikes in. Effect this

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 3>picture is now everywhere it shows how how hurt Jd

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 3>vance is by these, photoshops even though he's tried to

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:15.319
<v Speaker 3>laugh along in the.

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 4>Past, Yeah i'd love to, Know, like how is there

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 4>a directive that has come down like, No vonce streams

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 4>did some like off it's a field operations.

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 3>Guy did they send it up To Stephen miller with, like, Hey,

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 3>steven is this? Okay it seems like, no, no, no

0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:31.399
<v Speaker 3>it's not somewhere at.

0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:34.120
<v Speaker 4>The take offense on behalf Of Von's like that could

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:34.480
<v Speaker 4>be very.

0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:36.880
<v Speaker 2>LIKELY i think that is what, Happened like that all

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of the data suggests that's what.

0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:41.720
<v Speaker 4>Happened roberts talked about this like working towards the furor stuff,

0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 4>before but like it we're seeing a version of that, here,

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:44.879
<v Speaker 4>Right like.

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 3>Oh, YEAH i mean like all of the current border

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 3>agents are Like trump cultists, Essentially like they're they're the

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 3>most evil people you will you will ever.

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 4>MEET i, mean of the of all the federal, agencies,

0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:57.600
<v Speaker 4>right IT'S cbp that has had the lowest vaccination. Rate

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.880
<v Speaker 4>they're playing One american use in their break, rooms like

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 4>they are more ideologically sympathico with what's. Happening THEN i

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 4>would imagine most other feeds are certainly Like ice are

0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 4>pretty much in lockstep with The trump. Administration, yeah if

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 4>you want to help, US i guess don't send A

0:46:18.760 --> 0:46:21.880
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0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:28.600
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