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Speaker 1: Colson Media.

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Speaker 2: Oh, who's got ed?

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Speaker 3: That's not how we start these episodes.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's how we're starting this one, Garrison, it's already begun.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what's happening

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Speaker 3: in the White House, the krumbling world, and what it

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Speaker 3: means for you.

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Speaker 2: Yay, that's right, motherfuckers.

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Speaker 3: That's Robert Evans. I'm Garrison Davis. I'm also joined by

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Speaker 3: Mia Wong and James Stout. This week, we are covering

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Speaker 3: the week of June eighteen to June twenty five.

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Speaker 2: That's right, a good week where nothing but good things happened,

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Speaker 2: assuming you are someone who manufactures thirty pound gravity utilizing

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Speaker 2: bunker busting bombs.

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Speaker 4: Thirty pound, that's quite a small one. Thirty thousand, thirty thousand,

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Speaker 4: that's a thirty thousand. Sorry, Anyway, we're talking about Iran.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna start with Iran. We're gonna start with a

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Speaker 4: nuclear program, and I think we should start.

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Speaker 2: We need to start by giving the Cool Zone Media

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Speaker 2: cool kid's guide for how to enrich uranium.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't want to get arrested robbers, now, Mia,

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Speaker 1: it's not illegal to tell people how to enrich uranium.

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Speaker 2: Google will do it, and I assume they're correct. Robert,

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Speaker 2: it is legal for white people to do this.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's legal for me to do this.

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Speaker 2: It's okay, it's okay, it's okay. Look, if I've learned

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Speaker 2: one thing, it's that it's okay for white people to

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Speaker 2: talk about any kind of bomb on the internet. So

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Speaker 2: we'll be fine. I'll be fine. That's what matters, Robert.

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Speaker 2: Do I have kidnapping insurance? Do we have an extraction

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Speaker 2: team for me when I go to ice prints?

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 2: We have an extraction team, but it's not the cool

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Speaker 2: kind anyway. So let's talk about how to make nukes.

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Speaker 2: Because one thing you'll constantly hear whenever the US or

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Speaker 2: is Reel talks about Aron's nuclear program is that they're

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Speaker 2: just three to eight months away, right, there are weeks

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Speaker 2: so way, this is what you'll hear sometimes just takingly

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Speaker 2: if you three months is a number of weeks away whatever.

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Speaker 3: And they've been saying this for longer than I've been alive.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. It's technically correct, not in a way

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Speaker 2: to push it, but in a way that is like

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Speaker 2: literally correct, which is that Iran paused their nuclear program

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and three. The current Ayatola has not

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Speaker 2: given the command to start it up again. There is

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Speaker 2: no evidence that it is currently operative. Back in March,

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Speaker 2: US military intelligence the DIA concluded that there was no

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Speaker 2: That said, it has been true since two thousand and

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Speaker 2: away from having a nuke because of the way that

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Speaker 2: making nukes work. So in order to make the standard

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Speaker 2: kind of nuclear weapon that we're talking about here, you

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Speaker 2: need a bunch of enriched uranium, right, and there's two

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Speaker 2: kinds of uranium. There's two thirty five in the two

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Speaker 2: there's always a lot more two thirty eight than two

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Speaker 2: thirty five, and two thirty eight is fucking bullshit. If

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Speaker 2: you're trying to make yourself a bomb, right, you want

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Speaker 2: the two thirty five. And I'm not going to go

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Speaker 2: but because of just the nature of how uranium two

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Speaker 2: so you can't use chemical reactions to separate them, right,

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Speaker 2: So you can't use any of the easy ways that

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Speaker 2: order to separate out the uranium that you want from

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Speaker 2: their uranium that's not very useful to you. And Iran

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Speaker 2: that there was an erosion of a decades long taboo

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Speaker 2: on discussing nuclear weapons in public, brought on by all

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Speaker 2: of the pressure against Iran by Israel. Right. In other words,

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Speaker 2: strongly that well, we probably need one of these fucking things, right,

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Speaker 2: because otherwise they're simply not going to stop. And that's

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Speaker 2: they could be months away. Right. So this all leads

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Speaker 2: us up to last week's strikes on Iran. These were

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Speaker 2: using a wing of B two bombers. Actually, there was

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Speaker 2: Right now, the actual mission was about thirty seven hours,

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Speaker 2: which is not the longest mission B two crews have flown.

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Speaker 2: That was forty four hours, and it was over Afghanistan

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Speaker 2: was done in Iran. Now, the B twos that we

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Speaker 2: And I want to bring it up because, you know,

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Speaker 2: country is our tendency to dose bomber pilots with massive

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Speaker 2: exactly how you get bomber teams over to a country

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Speaker 2: They are pissing in ziploc bags full of kitty litter,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, except for the whole you know, Trump starting a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, sure, the massive civilian casualties are always a tragedy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the death of Minicent.

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Speaker 2: But you know it also, it was from fighter pilots

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Speaker 2: and swinger culture that we get popularized amphetamines in the

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Speaker 2: So the primary munition that these B twos were supposed

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Speaker 2: a bunch of strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities. But Basically, Iran,

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Speaker 2: getting the equipment that will allow you to enrich uranium.

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Speaker 2: And so it's very precious and you you don't just

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Speaker 2: have you can't just remake it super easily. So Aron

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Speaker 2: buried underneath like the ridge of a mountain, beneath ninety

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Speaker 2: we have this tendency in the West in part because

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Speaker 2: of generations of military industry propaganda and in part because

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Speaker 2: the Air Force really wants you to believe this that

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Speaker 2: Bombs are great at blowing up buildings that are just

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Speaker 2: It didn't work because it's really hard for all of

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Speaker 2: there's still some debate. The DIA assessment says that basically

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Speaker 2: We simply did not totally destroy these facilities. Now, it's

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Speaker 4: A Israel will send me bomb a fucking parking they

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Speaker 2: It's just the funniest thing in terms of it also

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Speaker 2: we'll park them randomly all around the country. Fuck you,

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Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? Bomb every parking lot? Like,

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Speaker 2: it's very funny quote.

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Speaker 3: From parking lot bombed? What are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Anyway, that's uh. What's going on with us bombing Iran?

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Speaker 4: Thank you note from Grumman for sponsoring the segment.

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Speaker 2: We're back. So like the four to oh nuclear enrichment facility,

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Speaker 2: Kamala Yaddia. I don't don't. I don't give a shit.

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Speaker 2: also and now it's time for peace. We have to

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Speaker 3: And getting pretty pissed at the Israeli governments.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because he announced a ceasefire and Iran was like

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Speaker 2: do that. But we did it. We got our strike off,

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Speaker 2: and we're not going to continue if you guys don't continue, right,

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Speaker 2: And Trump was like, I did it. I made peace.

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Speaker 2: Because it's very good. Here's here's Trump being confronted about this, Like,

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Speaker 1: You know what we have? We basically have two countries

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Speaker 3: Do you understand that? What?

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Speaker 2: So that's a pissed off man, and he's pissed off again.

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Speaker 2: I do think people are generally wrong when they're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: That hasn't really proved to be the case yet. But

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Speaker 2: Very yet because again he's hanging a lot on like

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Speaker 2: be more strikes and retaliation strikes. Something's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: It's not done right, None of it's done no. But

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something we got news of today in the last

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's.

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Speaker 1: Like okay, like they like we literally went on TV

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Speaker 1: I said, it's fine, everybody evacuated, not the basis. Like

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Speaker 1: obviously the US has always done this, but like we've

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Speaker 1: never had the president go on TV and just say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we let Iran shoot empty military basis.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we worked it out with them.

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep.

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Speaker 2: This highlights something that's so interesting when I when I

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Speaker 2: say this, I don't mean to ignore the fact that

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Speaker 2: real people are dying, like particularly in Iran. It's horrifying,

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Speaker 2: But there is a massive degree of this at the

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Speaker 2: at the that the nation state level that is cafe, right,

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Speaker 2: and that that proves it, like Iran is like okay, look.

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Speaker 3: K fa with the cost of like yeah, thousands of lives.

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Speaker 2: People will die.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's dick measuring.

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Speaker 2: The fact that Iron is only to talk with you

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Speaker 2: us about like okay, what can we strike that's not

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Speaker 2: going to escalate things for you, like yeah, we'll pull

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Speaker 2: you know whatever. And also that's to a degree that

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Speaker 2: was going on with the strikes on Iran, right where

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Speaker 2: they got enough of a warning that they were able

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Speaker 2: to move their physical material right, like this is there,

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Speaker 2: Which is not to say that like things are like

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Speaker 2: copasetic and friendly, but everybody's got everybody, but Israel has

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Speaker 2: like a vested interest in things not escalating too much.

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Speaker 2: Even the Trump administration, right has a vested interest in

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Speaker 2: like there's a line we don't want to cross because

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Speaker 2: we just don't see any like benefit in it, right,

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Speaker 2: And that is that is a part of what's going

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Speaker 2: on here. Yeah, anyway, that's probably enough talk about Iran

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Speaker 2: and news and stuff. But anyway, remember folks, you too

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Speaker 2: could be a nuclear power if you can just figure

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Speaker 2: out how to make a functional centrifuge and get a

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Speaker 2: shitload of uranium, you know, it's not that hard. It

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Speaker 2: just comes out of the ground.

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Speaker 4: Youah, depending on where that ground is.

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Speaker 2: Depending on where that ground is.

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Speaker 4: Should we talk about immigration? Sure, all right?

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Speaker 2: I love immigration.

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Speaker 4: Sadly Robert Congress does not agree with you.

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Speaker 2: They rarely do.

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Speaker 4: They rarely do. Yeah, that is one of the things

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Speaker 4: they say about Robert Evans. I want to start, actually

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Speaker 4: with a little disclaimer rant. Almost every day for the

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Speaker 4: past six months, someone has sent me a tip saying

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Speaker 4: that ICE are raiding a hospital. This has happened almost

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Speaker 4: every month for the past ten years. I have received

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Speaker 4: this tip thousands of times. To my knowledge, it has

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Speaker 4: never been true. Nonetheless, this rumor persists, and especially among

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Speaker 4: people who might be newer to migrant advocacy or newer

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Speaker 4: to observing immigration enforcement. What is happening in one hundred

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Speaker 4: percent of these cases that I have looked into, is

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Speaker 4: Customs of Border Protection or ICE or some other immigration

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Speaker 4: detention agency is taking somebody who is in their custody

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Speaker 4: to the hospital, and then that person is getting treatment

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Speaker 4: and then they are released again to that immigration agency. Normally,

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Speaker 4: those immigration agents can't enter non public areas of the hospital,

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Speaker 4: i e. Treatment rooms, but it can enter public areas,

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Speaker 4: I e. Lobbies. This rumor, which continues to spread, which

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Speaker 4: I've seen people including journalists sharing on social media, kills people, right.

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Speaker 4: I'm aware of one incident in which someone was having

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Speaker 4: a medical emergency and didn't want to go to hospital,

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Speaker 4: a medical emergency which could very well have killed them

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Speaker 4: within hours, and didn't want to go to hospital because

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Speaker 4: they had heard the ice was at the hospitals. I

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Speaker 4: understand that people are coming to this with varying levels

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Speaker 4: of experience. It's cool, it's great that people are showing

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Speaker 4: up for migrants, but people need to exercise caution around

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Speaker 4: this because it is not harmless to spread that rumor

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Speaker 4: unless you are absolutely certain that it is true. It

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Speaker 4: hurts people, and I keep seeing it, and I think

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Speaker 4: it's important to say something about it, including two other journalists. Okay,

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Speaker 4: with that said, let's start with some good news about immigration.

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Speaker 4: Ice agents in San Diego scattered from the San Diego

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Speaker 4: Court when the newly appointed San Diego Bishop Michael Farm,

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Speaker 4: who is himself a refugee. He was an accompanied miner

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Speaker 4: from Vietnam, entered the court to accompany people to their

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Speaker 4: immigration hearings. Bishop Farm was joined by Immam Taha Hassane.

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Speaker 4: I'm saying that correctly. Of the Islamic Center of San

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Speaker 4: Diego and our Lady of Guadaloupe Church, Pastor Scott Santa Rossa,

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Speaker 4: they say they're going to keep doing this quote as needed.

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Speaker 4: So this is actually one of the very few things,

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Speaker 4: at least in court houses that seems to have worked. Right.

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Speaker 4: We've covered this in previous weeks that what is happening

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Speaker 4: is that the government is dismissing the case against people

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Speaker 4: and then in me detaining them and forcing them to

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Speaker 4: fight for their asylum well detained. Right, this has been

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Speaker 4: happening all across the country. San Diego is the only

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Speaker 4: place I'm aware of where religious leaders right from across

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Speaker 4: the religious community are accompanying migrants to their detention hearings.

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Speaker 4: So we saw Brad Lander doing this in New York politician,

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Speaker 4: but this is the only instance I'm aware of where

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Speaker 4: clerics are doing it, and it seems to have worked.

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Speaker 4: It seems to have in this incidence or in these instances,

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Speaker 4: prevented ice from detaining people. And like, I'm not a

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Speaker 4: religious person myself, but I will say that I respect this.

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Speaker 4: I think this is this is cool. I've reported before.

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Speaker 4: I spoke a lot about Jesuits in the Darien Gap

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Speaker 4: and the how impressed and in awe of their work

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Speaker 4: with migrants. I am, and I think this is another

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Speaker 4: example of like people organizing with groups that they might

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Speaker 4: not normally organize with, but that having really beneficial results.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Huge win for the woke Marxist pope as well, So

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Speaker 4: it's good to see.

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Speaker 3: Yep, hell yeah, huge one for Marxism this week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, generally a big week for Marxism in other years.

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Speaker 4: A district court has ordered another man, Geordian and Alexander

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Speaker 4: Melga Saint Maron, returned from El Salvador. He's Salvadorean, but

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Speaker 4: he was removed thirteen minutes after a court order barred

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Speaker 4: his removal, and thus he was removed in violation of

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Speaker 4: that court order. Right, and the district court has ordered

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Speaker 4: him returned. I'm not aware if he's being returned yet.

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Speaker 4: On Wednesday, we shall see, I guess. Because the Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court has allowed the Trump administration this week to continue

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Speaker 4: removing migrants to countries which are not specifically noted on

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Speaker 4: their removal orders.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: We spoke about this before in the case of the

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Speaker 4: attempt of the DODA to remove people to South Sudan.

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Speaker 4: We've spoken about it in terms of removing people to

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Speaker 4: El Salvador who are not themselves Salvadorean. Right, this isn't

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Speaker 4: really deportation. I think rendition is a more accurate way

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Speaker 4: to describe it, and it will certainly result in people

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Speaker 4: facing hardship and more likely than not, people facing torture

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Speaker 4: and probably being killed. It is a disaster. It was

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Speaker 4: a very short and unsigned order, and the justices it

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Speaker 4: wasn't a final decision that they paused the Massachusetts District

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Speaker 4: Court ruling, which had in turn paused the process. So

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Speaker 4: the process is now ongoing again. It's worth noting that

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Speaker 4: the Massachusetts District Court ruling didn't stop them doing it.

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Speaker 4: It allowed them a meaningful attempt at expressing their reasonable

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Speaker 4: fear of torture.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Three justices dissented, so to Mayor, Keegan and Jackson. So

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Speaker 4: to Mayor wrote the descent I'm just going to quote

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Speaker 4: from it here briefly, apparently quote the court finds the

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Speaker 4: idea that thousands will suffer violence in far flung locals

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Speaker 4: more palatable than the remote possibility that a district court

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Speaker 4: exceeded its remedial powers when it ordered the government to

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Speaker 4: provide no and process to which the plaintiffs are constitutionally

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Speaker 4: and statutorily entitled. As she pointed out, the government was

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Speaker 4: seeking relief from this order in Supreme Court, but had

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Speaker 4: also been openly flouting here. Right. This flouting of lower

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Speaker 4: court orders lines up with Ares Ruveni, a DOJ lawyer

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Speaker 4: who was fired for I guess not following the DJ

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Speaker 4: line in the Aberagogavcia case. He filed a whistleblower complaint

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Speaker 4: in Congress this week that the NAT has seen. You

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Speaker 4: can read the whole article in the show notes, but

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Speaker 4: in there you can hear Emil Bouvet, who's he was

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Speaker 4: Trump's personal laurre in twenty twenty three. Trump is now

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Speaker 4: nominated him to be a judge. That he tells DOJ

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Speaker 4: lawyers that they need to be open to responding fuck

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Speaker 4: you to court orders. The allegations in a whistleblower complaint

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Speaker 4: are pretty concerning, right, in terms of the ability of

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Speaker 4: the courts to stop the DOJ doing anything. I would

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Speaker 4: urge you to read it. It's going to be linked

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Speaker 4: in the show notes. We don't really have time to

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Speaker 4: summarize all of it. Here, but I think I think

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Speaker 4: the fuck you comment summarizes it pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And speaking of things that you should buy, here's ads.

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Speaker 2: We're back. And since we've just done ads, let's let

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Speaker 2: James give an ad for something that's not a product

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Speaker 2: or service but is better. Yeah, better of those things.

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Speaker 4: If you have any money left after investing in all

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Speaker 4: the wonderful goal their appetites. Who want to tell you?

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Speaker 4: One of the people who we have interviewed on this

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Speaker 4: show extensively, who came into the acted strates through Kumba

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Speaker 4: and who provided us with a really in depth account

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Speaker 4: of his immigration detention, has let me know that he

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Speaker 4: is struggling to find a lawyer and pay for a lawyer.

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Speaker 4: So far, he's been taking care of all of his

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Speaker 4: legal paperwork himself, which is very admirable, but obviously, like

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Speaker 4: many migrants, he understands his chance of the success will

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Speaker 4: be much much better with a lawyer, something he himself

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Speaker 4: is struggling to pay for right now, whilst also supporting

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Speaker 4: a family. If you would like to help, the link

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Speaker 4: for that is www dot GoFundMe dot com slash f

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Speaker 4: slash Standing with our Family. It will also be the

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Speaker 4: first link in the sources for this episode, So if

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Speaker 4: you're listening on your podcast app, you can scroll down

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Speaker 4: to the show notes find it there, click it and

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Speaker 4: help out if you'd like to.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's time for Gehar's good news roundup,

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Speaker 3: and let's start with some actually like fantastic news. My

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Speaker 3: mood Khalil has been released after one hundred and four

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Speaker 3: days in ice custody. He missed the birth of his

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Speaker 3: first child. Was it his first time meeting his child

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Speaker 3: or did he get to meet his child?

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Speaker 2: I think he'd gotten one visit where he got to

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Speaker 2: meet his kid, if I'm if I'm remembering directly. It's

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Speaker 2: still kind of about two thirds of the way through

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Speaker 2: his detainment.

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Speaker 3: But now he is back in New York right as

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Speaker 3: his case will continue. This is a good step in

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Speaker 3: the fight against disappearing people for political differences, Like this

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Speaker 3: is important fight. This is possibly like the one of

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Speaker 3: the most important like national pieces of news. That's still

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Speaker 3: a developing story right now.

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Speaker 2: I've seen some responses that are like, yeah, so after

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Speaker 2: one hundred and four days of being illegally detained, you know,

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Speaker 2: a guy finally got released. This is still a bad thing,

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Speaker 2: and like that's true. This is a bleak story. But

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Speaker 2: like it's actually kind of like foolish to not acknowledge

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Speaker 2: this as a significant win, right, Like it's important.

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Speaker 3: They did not want to release him. They wanted to

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Speaker 3: keep him forever.

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Speaker 2: They did not want to release him. Yes, this is good.

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Speaker 2: This is a good thing, and it's proof that it

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Speaker 2: is worth fighting because you can win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like every day he's not in jail and that

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Speaker 4: he's with his family is a better day.

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Speaker 2: Yes, is a win. Yeah, it's a victory. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Also some good news in New York. It is so quover.

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Speaker 3: Zoran Mamdani won the Democratic primary for the mayor of

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Speaker 3: New York City Tuesday night. This is quite exciting. I

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Speaker 3: got to announce to a massive room full of trans

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Speaker 3: people that Quomo conceded to Zoron, and I have not

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Speaker 3: felt better in months. It was like the one of

651
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Speaker 3: the brightest rays of hope that we've had and a

652
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: rejection of like the old Democratic Party establishment. Yes, Zoron

653
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: had to beat like thirty million dollars of super Pac

654
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: funding against him. He mobilized the youth vote in ways

655
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 3: we've never seen before in New York. A quarter of

656
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: early voters for first time that Democratic primary participants. Zoran

657
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: ran a very very solid campaign with slick videos online

658
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: and on TV multil which outreach fifty thousand like on

659
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: street volunteers, canvassing, door knocks, phone baking, and a distinct

660
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: focus on affordability, including freezing rent, free buses, pilot program

661
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: for city run grocery stores, free to low cost childcare,

662
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: raising minimum wage, and resisting Trump's efforts to use ice

663
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 3: to deport New Yorkers. Myself and Mia did a full

664
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: episode yesterday if you want to have a more in

665
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: depth look at the New York mayor role primary.

666
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Speaker 2: Yeah. We should also note here that per a CBS

667
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: New York interview with former Governor Cuomo, he has stated

668
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: that he is considering running against Mom Donnie as an independent.

669
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes. We might get to

670
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: see Cuomo lose twice in a year, which would be

671
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: pretty funny.

672
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I would be surprised if he

673
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: actually decides to run in the general. A lot of

674
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: like like Ackman is going behind Adams. It seems they're

675
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: certainly going to be targeting from like Republicans and maybe

676
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 3: even some den establishments.

677
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, sure, definitely.

678
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: So to like.

679
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: Remove zoran as like a viable candyate, they're going to

680
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: pull out some crazy like red scare communist shit from

681
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 3: the fifties. Absolutely, they might try to remove his legal

682
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 3: status as a citizen, like they're gonna pull out the stops.

683
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: But this is like after the twenty twenty four elench

684
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 3: this is like the first first like clear look at

685
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: what a new Democratic party could look like. And right

686
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: now is the face of Zorrong. Yeah that's all I have.

687
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's nice to see a win again.

688
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 2: It's like the Mahud Khalil thing. Right, It's it's nice, absolutely,

689
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: like this is this is good things can happen. Now

690
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: does this mean is this a part of a fucking

691
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: progressive wave that's sweeping the country? Does this prove that,

692
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: you know, being pro Palestine and pro trans is the

693
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: best electoral strategy in one hundred percent of districts? Now,

694
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: like this is this is New York. We like, this

695
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 2: is one election, but it's like good news and it

696
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: it I think there's a very solid possibility that we

697
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: will see this as like part of a growing trend

698
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: that when candidates are actually left wing and unabashedly so

699
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: when they don't try to tack to the middle, when

700
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,359
Speaker 2: they don't try to embrace, you know, a hodgepodge of

701
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: like contradictory policies in order to please some sort of

702
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: like farcical median theoretical median voter, that they do better.

703
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: I do think that, like maybe that's what we'll see.

704
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously one election in New York City

705
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 2: is not a one one primary in New York City

706
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: isn't enough to prove that like this is going to

707
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: be the same kind of thing we see nationwide.

708
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: I mean, but it did show how to mobilize like

709
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: a huge number of like young people and like a

710
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of like young men, which which

711
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: the Democratic Party has been like whining about for the

712
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: past few months terrible about.

713
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a big deal.

714
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 3: Like how how how do we reach out to the

715
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 3: young men in this country? And like Zoron showed you

716
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 3: how to do this. It's actually fighting for like real

717
00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: things that make your life.

718
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: You can get people excited about your candidacy. If you're

719
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: standing for something and getting people excited, it's even more

720
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: important than just being like, well, this theoretically polls the best,

721
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: because if you do take all the positions that poll well,

722
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: but nobody gives a shit and you don't have any

723
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: kind of excitement or the ability to build like a

724
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: grassroots ground game, then you'll do worse. Like if you

725
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 2: have that behind you, if you have all that enthusiasm,

726
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: you can make less popular positions more popular. That's how

727
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: politics works, right, Look at Trump, you know, like the

728
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: whole everyone's always wondering, like how does he get away

729
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: with all these things that were forbidden for so long?

730
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Is because he had a lot of enthusiasm behind them,

731
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: and that wave allowed him to push a bunch of boundaries.

732
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 4: And like, that's how it works.

733
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: It can work the other way too, if you try,

734
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: if you're not just gutless, if you're not a fucking shumer.

735
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: So in less good news and the less good news,

736
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Speaker 1: I mean really really horrible news.

737
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: Terrible news.

738
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, So last week we got the results of the

739
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: United States versus Crimmetti. I think most trans people have

740
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 1: been expecting that this was going to be really bad,

741
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: but it was. It was, I guess technically not as

742
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: bad as it theoretically could have been, but this ruling

743
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: was there was a six' three ruling that Upholds tennessee's

744
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: yeah ban on gender affirming care for. Minors that ban,

745
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: IS i, mean just like hideously. Illegal it's like very

746
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: obviously sass. Discrimination The Supreme court gave Genuinely LIKE i

747
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: had a friend described it as like we're just in

748
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: Pure calvin ball, Land like it's if you read the,

749
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: decision it's fucking. Nonsense it's. Gibberish that also makes it

750
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: hard to figure out what it's gonna do because the

751
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: legal reasoning is just so unbelievably.

752
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 3: Nonsense like it leaves it it leaves in place the

753
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: twenty twenty ruling on sex discrimination in the workplace for

754
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: trans people, intact but it invents this new justification that

755
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 3: you can discriminate against trans people if you're discriminating against

756
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 3: gender dysphoria as a, diagnosis specifically not necessarily them being,

757
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 3: trans but the ability to treat gender.

758
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: Dysphoria, yeah it's really really fucking. Weird i'm probably gonna

759
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: do like a full episode looking at like like bringing

760
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: into actual legal people to talk about what the legal

761
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: impacts are going to. Be this is really. Bad this

762
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: means that like twenty five states bans on gender firm

763
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: and care go into. Effect one of the worst parts

764
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: of this right is that you, know and this is

765
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues with like targeting and trans

766
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: kids in, general is that just the structure of the

767
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: family and if childhood makes it really hard to help

768
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: these kids because they're significantly more isolated than trans. Adults,

769
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: right it's harder for trans kids to find. Community it's

770
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: harder for the community to find.

771
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: Them.

772
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: Yep and because of the structures in place, here, like

773
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: they are denied the autonomy to keep. Living and if

774
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: their parents decide to just be, like fuck, you we're

775
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: just Doing we're going to do conversion therapy on you

776
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: by refusing to let you, transition they can do, that

777
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: and it's extremely hard to resist.

778
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: It.

779
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah the root of so much, AUTHORITARIANISM i would all,

780
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: argue like the absolute core of the fascist movement is

781
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: the idea that parents own their. Children, yeah and that

782
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 2: like that is the most that is the single most

783
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 2: important property right that, exists is your ownership of.

784
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 4: Kids i'm going to, say it's bed time if we

785
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 4: really get to the core of, it isn't, It, Rob,

786
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: yeah it's.

787
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: No rubert's going full like no future queer, Theory LIKE

788
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: I i agree with.

789
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 4: You, no he's, Right, no.

790
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: This is THE i don't think this is even debatable

791
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: as someone who has raised in. It it's, this and

792
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: it's it's not a simple, problem right because like kids

793
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 2: are not adults and shouldn't like have full autonomy about,

794
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: choices like you, know because they'll they don't understand the world.

795
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: Fully there's a degree to which kids need to be like.

796
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: Guided, yeah you should stop a child if they're going

797
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 3: to walk into the street and get hit by a,

798
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 3: bus right, yeah like grab a, fire or.

799
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: If they only want to eat candy for, dinner right like,

800
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 2: That there are, limits but the idea of, it like

801
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: and so parents own their. Kids they're like that that

802
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: is just it's pure poison and it's killing us all

803
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: and like more, broadly like guys who hate that kids

804
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: are the fucking forefront of fascism right, Now like, Yeah

805
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: Elon musk Bought twitter because he hates his, daughter, yes

806
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: more more than if any any other.

807
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 4: Thing like it's, uh, yeah it's a repugnant. Ideology it's.

808
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 2: Disgusting, yeah, yeah, anyway we'll do some sort of more

809
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: detailed look at this that like that at some, point

810
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: BUT i think we've you, know covered the.

811
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: News, YEAH i, MEAN i think the last the last

812
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: THING i want to say about that is, like if

813
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: your trans AND i know this was a bigger thing

814
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: in the immediate wake of last, week but keep.

815
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 4: Living yeah, yeah, yeah stay.

816
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: Alive maybe get a passport because you can do that right.

817
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: Now there's a lot of benefit even if you're not

818
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: going to, travel if you don't have the money to,

819
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 2: travel there's a lot of benefit in having THAT. Id.

820
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah we're all going to see the sun rice

821
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: together like we, are and it's going to be.

822
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 3: Beautiful but do you know who won't is a man

823
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: From norway who will probably never be seeing The United

824
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: states ever.

825
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: Again, god oh my. God, Okay, Garrison.

826
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: So to finish this, episode we're going to talk about

827
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: the one deportation we're kind of allowed to laugh. At

828
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: not because the guy is. Bad the guy seems perfectly,

829
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: fine but the circumstances around the deportation are so. Bizarre

830
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 3: it's wild, shit and it Affects. Norway so it's you,

831
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 3: know it's like, Whatever garrison Anti norwegian action over no

832
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: offense To. Norway i'm just, like it's it's not, like

833
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 3: this guy's getting deported to a place where he's in.

834
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: DANGER i love You, norwegians even If garrison. Doesn't this

835
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 4: is not a guy who's going to. Suffer he's not

836
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: going To South, suda, beer.

837
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: Life threatening or. Whatever he's. Fine.

838
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah norwegian man was coming to The United states for

839
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Speaker 3: vacation and at the border check point AND i Think,

840
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: newark he was questioned and handed over his. Phone on the,

841
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: phone porter agents found a photoshopped picture of BABY jd

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00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 3: v sorry of bald BABY Jd. Vance. Yeah, Yeah and

843
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: for this reason was BABY jd denied entry into into

844
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: The United states and deported back.

845
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: To Your.

846
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 4: Thomas country On.

847
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: Earth, anyway said photo has now been shown in The

848
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: Irish parliament because we live in a it's, beautiful the world's.

849
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 3: Beautiful they're Deporting norwegians FOR Jd vance. Memes, now this

850
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: is the level that we are, at like The party

851
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 3: Of Free speech deporting people who has OF Jd vance

852
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 3: memes on their.

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00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: Phone, like on the one, HAND i think you can

854
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: make the argument that fascism has always been this, Stupid

855
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: like Google Google mussolini's headquarters and look at that.

856
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 4: Building it is this dumb but like good, lord LIKE

857
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 4: i just oh my, god personal.

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00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Vanity there's such fucking tiny babies about. It like that's,

859
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: like that's like the really defining characteristic of this era

860
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: of fascism is that if you make fun of them

861
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: the tiniest, bit it is the worst Consequences i've ever

862
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: suffered in their entire. Lives and they fucking lose their

863
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: mind that everyone doesn't fucking love.

864
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: Them, yeah they they're they're fully like willing and like

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