1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: All right, last segment, I set up this Timothy Bussfield situation. 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: Busfield's the actor who has spent four years involved in 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: The Cleaning Lady, which is a Fox TV show, acting 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: in it, and what did I say? 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: It was also directing it as well. And there was. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: A character, a child character played by two twins, and 9 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 2: the complaint against Busfield by the twins that when they 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: were seven and eight years old between November of twenty 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: two and Spring of twenty four, that he was messing 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: with their private parts, touching them on multiple occasions. And 13 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: he vamently denies all the charges, claiming that it's the 14 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: mother was upset because the kids weren't coming back for 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: the last season of the show, and he said the 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: mother wanted revenge and got revenge. 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Here it's called The Cleaning Lady. 18 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: I never saw it, guess Debora lasted a year? 19 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Was it good or you? 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: I did? 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: I liked I liked the first season. The second season 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 4: I kind of watched it a little bit. I didn't 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: love it as much as the first season. 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: Do you watch all he shows I have real life. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 5: I know I don't have. 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: That wasn't the question. I watch a lot of shows. 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: That's how I. 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 4: John, That's how I relaxed when I get help after 30 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 4: dealing with whatever it takes. 31 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: Exactly right. It's my fault was that Alex is not 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: coming on. Okay, He's going to get on, come on later. 33 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: I think the hearing is still going on. So let's 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: put that aside for the moment, okay, and let's move 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 2: up something I was going to do in the next segment. 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 2: And Deborah, this this could involve you because I you know, 37 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: this is this is radio, and I don't know how 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: much people look on to see what we look like. 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: But Debormark is a white woman. 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: Correct last time I checked? 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 6: That's correct? 42 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I mean because you're allowed now is to 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: identifies anything you Want's actually all right? Well, I bring 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 2: this up for a reason. The new mayor in New 45 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: York City is Zoron Mom Donnie, and he has a 46 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: new chief equity officer. Now, I have seen just dozens 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: of stories of chief equity officers for corporations and in government, 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: and when somebody ever delves into their tweets or other 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: social media posts. They're just full of hatefulness towards all 50 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 2: kinds of groups. So this woman, Mom Donnie's new equity 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: officer is named Afua ata Mensa and when she writes, 52 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 2: she uses the word comrade a lot. 53 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Does that give you an idea? 54 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: And she retweets other people's statements such as there's no 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: moderate way to black liberation. 56 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Sounds like a fair and equitable person. 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: Mom Donnie said that Afua, there's no one I trust 58 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: more to advance racial equity. 59 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: From city Hall. 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: So they started looking into her social media past, and 61 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: she had a thing about liberal white women. Specifically, she 62 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: doesn't like liberal white women who work in nonprofits. They 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: really irritate her. And so she posted three times, one 64 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: where she responded to somebody who said we don't talk 65 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: about white liberal racism enough, and Afua said facts would 66 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: need to be a series of long conversations and that 67 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: word law had many o's, many n's, and many g's. 68 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: She also reposted part of a thread reading Who's not 69 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: police but feels like police to you? The reply Afua said, 70 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: white women, nonprofit organizations. 71 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: And other things as well. She posted. 72 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: Now she has deleted her social media but not before 73 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: people found this stuff. But here's my uh, here's my 74 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: favorite one. She She said she was replying in twenty 75 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: twenty one to somebody posting about how the show's succession. 76 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: You watched Succession? 77 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: Uh no, I did watch a couple episodes. No, I 78 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: didn't really get into that. But you know what, it's 79 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 4: on my list to try again. 80 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 6: People love it. 81 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: But it's about wealthy white people, is it not? 82 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 6: I believe so. 83 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: Yeah. 84 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: Yes, Well, she's replied to somebody posting about how the 85 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: show's Succession made them want to these people to the 86 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: white meat. 87 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: Okay, text them to the white meat, and she agreed. 88 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: She repeated it with capital letters, text them to the 89 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: white meat. 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: Three exclamation point. I don't know. I guess I guess 91 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: you and I have white meat. Huh. 92 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 4: I mean that's that's just crass white meat. 93 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: Tax them to the white meat. 94 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and she she had three exclamation points and a 95 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 2: hand clapping emoji. Uh. This is the second crazy person 96 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: to have a bizarre posts. Dug up, there's this woman, 97 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: see a weaver. She's the tenant advocate from Mom Dannie, 98 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 2: and her tweets. 99 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: Called on I guess the government to. 100 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: Seize private property, and she said home ownership is a 101 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 2: weapon of white supremacy. Now a fullah. The first woman 102 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: is black, but this sea a Weaver is white. She's 103 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: a pasty faced, red haired girl, and she thinks owning 104 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: a home a weapon of white supremacy. And I don't 105 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: know what that says about black people own a home. 106 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 4: Well, I'm just wondering if anybody in her family owns 107 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: a home, because I'm assuming she doesn't or she wouldn't 108 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: say that, but nobody her entire family. 109 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: Her mother owns a million and a half dollar home. 110 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 4: In the nip Okay. Well, then how could she. 111 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Say that they dug that up? A day later? Well, yeah, 112 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: mother's a white supremacist. You know, you're not. Really, they 113 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: don't get alarge. 114 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. They don't get along. 115 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 2: She oh she's also this is the second woman, see 116 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: a Weaver. She's called on people to elect more communists 117 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: to carry out to her agenda, and uh. 118 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: Just go to Russia. 119 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: I don't understand. If you want communism and then leave 120 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: the US, that's. 121 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: Right, you could take a boat to Cuba. Uh, Russia 122 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: is still communist North Korea. 123 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good time. 124 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: But uh, let's see a spokesperson said that. 125 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: No, never mind, spokesperson didn't say that. 126 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: One of the critics said that the mayor says there's 127 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: no any trust more than ata mensa. That's a fua 128 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: to push racal equity. 129 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: What's racial equity? Excuse me, that's me not pronouncing. 130 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 5: The work hard time. 131 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 4: You always give me our time. I couldn't let that one. 132 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: I just had to. I know I am. 133 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: They will make no mistake. Tweets about taxing white meat 134 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: reflect the approach of the entire Mom Donnie administration to 135 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: reshape New York. 136 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: So have the voted. 137 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: They voted for that administration. 138 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: You ever get a phrase in your head, or like 139 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: a song lyric in your head, and you just find 140 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: yourself repeating it and you can't get it out of 141 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: your house all the time. 142 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: This past weekend, I just kept muttering to myself, tax 143 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: them to the white meat. 144 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 4: I really hope I don't have that in my head. 145 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 5: I don't want to stay that. 146 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: It sounds like a great rallying cry, though. 147 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: If that's what you want to do, tax them to 148 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: the white meat, tax them to the white meat. 149 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: That could be somebody's mom. 150 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's running New York City? All right, we 151 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: got more coming up. 152 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI A sixty. 153 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: You can follow us on social media at at John 154 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: Cobelt Radio, at John Cobelt Radio, and at YouTube or 155 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: on YouTube or near YouTube. You can subscribe by going 156 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: to YouTube dot com slash at Johncobelt Show, YouTube dot 157 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: com slash at John Cobelt Show. All right, I you know, 158 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 2: we talk about the billions of dollars that have disappeared 159 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: in homeless money, and sometimes you can get people off 160 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: the streets very cheaply. And in San Francisco they had 161 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 2: a program, relatively small program, but it was started by 162 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: Newsom back in two thousand and five. Yeah, we're in 163 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: year twenty, year twenty one now of Gavin Newsom trying 164 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: to end the homelessness. So back then he had something 165 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: called Homeward Bound, and it was let's buy him a 166 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 2: plane ticket and get him out of here. And at 167 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: its height, the program was sending more than a thousand 168 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: people out of town, but last year it was down 169 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: to four hundred and forty four. You'd think a thousand 170 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: people a year, we'd catch up, right, but there's always 171 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: more people coming here. So many of these people are 172 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: from out of California. And you know how a lot 173 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: of them get here. Other states pay them to come here. 174 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: We pay some to go there. Illinois, for example, I 175 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: read this story online. A guy said he started talking 176 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 2: to a couple of homeless. Where are you from, Illinois? 177 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: How'd you get here? 178 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 179 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 2: The governor paid for our plane ticket. Yeah, state of Illinois. 180 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: They've got the program. So in Illinois they say, hey, 181 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: we'll give you a plane ticket. You get to call 182 00:10:52,040 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: it California. Everybody goes, yeah, that's a great deal. In 183 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 2: the beach in Venice. I'll live in Santa Monica. They 184 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: all have phones. They can see how nice it is. 185 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: But what do we do. We are for money and say, hey, 186 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:16,359 Speaker 2: you want to go back home? No, where's home? Oh, Illinois. 187 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: In March or January, I was looking up some weather conditions. 188 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: Do you know what the high temperature in Green Bay, 189 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: Wisconsin was yesterday something like four degrees and it was 190 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: dropping to minus five. So if you's some drunk or 191 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 2: drug addict, you're not living on the streets in Green 192 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: Bay very long. And I don't know if they have 193 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 2: this program in Wisconsin. But if they do, of course 194 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 2: they're going to come to Venice in Santa Monica, and 195 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: we're dumb enough to take care of him here. In fact, 196 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: that's one of the reasons they don't want to leave 197 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: some of these homeless people is because we take such 198 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 2: good care of them. Mercy mena This is San Francisco 199 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: story was evicted from her apartment and after spending weeks CouchSurfing. 200 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: She was looking for a place to take her sixteen 201 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: year old son and a rambunctious black dog. She couldn't 202 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: find a shelter that would allow both her dog and 203 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: her kid, so they slept on park benches and then 204 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: she moved into a winter shelter. Son was sent off 205 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,599 Speaker 2: with a church member. I don't know what happened to 206 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: the dog. And at every turn as she went through 207 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: the system, the caseworkers kept saying, hey, one way, take 208 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 2: it out of San Francisco. 209 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: What do you think. 210 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: And she said, no, I'm from the San Francisco area. 211 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to go out of town. And then 212 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: she said that since she doesn't know where to go, 213 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: and the city itself, the city homeless programs is their stability, 214 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: which is what one of these homeless advocates say. His 215 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: name's Lucas Illa Coalition on Homelessness. Apparently the homeless community 216 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: and the support networks that we're paying for makes it 217 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 2: hard to leave because other cities don't waste their money 218 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: on the homeless like we do. So offering them a 219 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: plane ticket, even if it's a first class they don't 220 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: want it. It's like, well wait, now it doesn't end 221 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: their homelessness, notice, but notice, but it makes them. It 222 00:13:54,520 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: makes them dependent because you know, you're dealing basically with 223 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: drug addicts and mental patients, so the bar for success 224 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: is pretty low. And even Illa, so Illa doesn't think 225 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 2: spending more money on the free plane ticket is gonna 226 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 2: produce any results, and that this is the this is 227 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: the problem overall since day one with the concept of welfare. 228 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Maybe you or I would never ever they could. 229 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: We couldn't conceive of taking other people's money, at least 230 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: not for a very long If we did it, this 231 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: only would be for a very short transitional time. But 232 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: other people say, huh, yeah, this is cool. I can 233 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: I can do this. I can live off the government 234 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: money and I could buy my my drugs and booze 235 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: and then they'll give me more money. And you know, 236 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: in San Francisco they hand out free booze to the 237 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: alcoholics in the street. 238 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 7: They do. 239 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: It's like Uber. 240 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: They've got booze Uber in San Francisco, just for the 241 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: homeless people. 242 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: Paid with tax money. So if you could you just lie. 243 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: There and you know they'll bring you, you know, syringes 244 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 2: and needles and bottles of your favorite liquor. What what's 245 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: the problem? Why do I Why do I have to 246 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: get on a plane go bother my family? They don't 247 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: want me. They kicked me out because I was sitting 248 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: around drunken stones all day. 249 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: More coming up. 250 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM sixty. 251 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: And you can do the Moistline on Friday eight seven 252 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: seven Moist seven seven Moyst eighty six or use the 253 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: talkback feature on the iHeart app as well. I am 254 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: going to play you this clip and I have watched 255 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: the video. It's all over online. This is a man. 256 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: He says he's a journalist. I can't get his name. 257 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: I've been looking all over to get his name. Apparently 258 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 2: it's listed under Summer's News. Maybe I know that's somebody 259 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: who did a repost. I don't know what exactly who 260 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: this guy is, but it's fascinating because it looks real. 261 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: He's must be here in Los Angeles. And he went 262 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: to a Los Angeles office building. The alarm was broken, 263 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: and he started walking through the lobby and he was 264 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: pointing out all the businesses on the signboard in the 265 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: lobby and they were all in the healthcare industry or 266 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: the hospice industry. 267 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean dozens of them. 268 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: Dozens of home health care and hospice businesses in one building. 269 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: And he became suspicious, and he's made his way up 270 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: to the offices. And this is similar to what Nick 271 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: Shirley did the Independent Journalist in Minneapolis, where he found many, 272 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 2: many empty childcare centers with no children and they were 273 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 2: locked dark, no playground equipment, no children, and collectively the 274 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 2: ones he went just in one afternoon had taken one 275 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: hundred and ten million dollars in Minneapolis, Minnesota tax money. 276 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: So do we have this here as well? 277 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 8: Well? 278 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play this clip. It's a two minute, fifteen 279 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: second tour and I haven't and I haven't seen that 280 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: anybody over the last few days has said this is 281 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: this isn't true. So he's in the building dozens of 282 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: businesses and he goes on this tour and everything's empty. 283 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: Play it just. 284 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 6: Down the hall from hospice Atlantic Care. Hospice is just 285 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 6: a weird consulting business that's just empty with shredded documents. 286 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 6: There's nothing suspect going on here. Okay, if you guys 287 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 6: want to enroll your elder family member, it's definitely the 288 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 6: spot for sure. 289 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 9: One honeynnnnn. 290 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 6: Dinna dent d d d dinn. What's up you guys, 291 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 6: Let's go visit hospice. N This isn't just the West 292 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 6: coast or East coast, Okay, the entire nation. 293 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 2: You might be a little nuts, but the crazy people 294 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: are finding out what's really going on. 295 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 10: Hello, tell me to come back during normal business hours. 296 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 9: I'm here. 297 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 10: It's four twenty pm on a Wednesday. You guys open. 298 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: There's nobody around. 299 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 10: I got a lot of people asking what your normal 300 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 10: business hours are, says twenty four to seven on Google, 301 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 10: which would mean all the time. And I think this 302 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 10: is actually part of that time, So you guys should 303 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 10: be open. 304 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: Is there anything a missing? 305 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: I think you get the idea. It goes on for 306 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: a while, but you could turn it off, that you 307 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: could stop it. He just wanders empty through this empty building. 308 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 2: There's empty desks, empty chairs. Some of the offices look 309 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: like nobody's ever been there. Some of them had the 310 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: shredded documents. And you know, I've seen this in other 311 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: fraud cases, where people rent out entire buildings and either 312 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: they own multiple versions of the same business, or they 313 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 2: and their associates cluster their businesses together, and none of 314 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 2: them are operational. 315 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: All of them are dependent on. 316 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 2: Tax money, usually connected to Medicare, Medicaid, the general health 317 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: care system, hospices, because the fastest growing part of the 318 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: budget has always been you know, Medicare and Medicaid, and 319 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 2: I think we just all took for granted. It's like, yeah, well, 320 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: health healthcare costs are always rising. They're always rising, that's 321 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: just the way it is. 322 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: What if the reason they're always rising. 323 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: Is because they kept attracting more and more criminals, And 324 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: maybe a lot of those criminals are running fake nonprofits 325 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: like the homeless nonprofits here in Los Angeles, and they're 326 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: connected to the politicians and bureaucrats, and everybody in government 327 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: is getting a share of the money maybe that's what 328 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: has been going on all these years, as these healthcare 329 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 2: costs cleep climate and maybe that's why they never solved 330 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: the healthcare problem in this country, either party, just like 331 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: they don't solve the homeless problem here in California. Sometimes 332 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: the simplest answer, the most direct answer, is the truth. 333 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: And maybe it's all all the increase has been one 334 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: gigantic scam with dozens, hundreds, perhaps thousands, of fake for 335 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: profit and nonprofit companies catering to every imaginable illness, every 336 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: imaginable condition, as long as you could run it through 337 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: Medicare and Medicaid. And maybe there are lots of buildings 338 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: like this, not just in LA, but all over the country, 339 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: Like there are probably lots of childcare centers like they. 340 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: Had in Minneapolis. Maybe this is the answer to these. 341 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: Budgets that have exploded out of control, the taxes that 342 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: have followed. I there's got to be something here, and 343 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: why they don't investigate it generally because I think everybody 344 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: in government's on the take, the bureaucracies and the elected politicians. 345 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: One way or another, they're on the take. Maybe it's 346 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 2: their wives, their husbands, their cousins, their brothers, their neighbors, 347 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: their friends, other people at church. All right, more coming up, 348 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 2: We're going to talk with our right, we've got Alex 349 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: Stone ree scheduled. Next segment the Timothy Bussfield hearing. He 350 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: was in court today because he wants to get out 351 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: of jail until his trial. It's about criminal sexual contact 352 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: of two boys when they were seven and eight years old, 353 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: when Busfield was acting and directing in a TV show 354 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: called The Cleaning Lady. And they played the same character, 355 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 2: the two kids, because they often do that because kids 356 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: can only work so many hours. So you get twins 357 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 2: and they both work and they both claim that they 358 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: were somehow diddled with. The mother certainly did, and Busfield 359 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: is said, well, no, I wrote them out of the 360 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: last season, and she got mad and vowed revenge, and 361 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: so this. 362 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: Is the revenge. 363 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,479 Speaker 2: So we'll have Alex Stone from ABC News to tell 364 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 2: us how the hearing went. 365 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 366 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: six forty. 367 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: Let's get now to finally Alex Stone from NEC News 368 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: and he's been covering this case of Timothy Bussfield, the 369 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 2: actor who was in a TV She's sixty eight years 370 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: old TV show was called The Cleaning Lady. He was 371 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: an actor and a director and he's done a lot 372 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: of television over the decades. 373 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: And there was a. 374 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: Character, a young boy character played by two twins, and 375 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: the twins and the mom are claiming that Busfield sexually, 376 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 2: he diddled with them in some manner. I think that's 377 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: a technical term. And he is saying, no, I wrote 378 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: them out of the last season, and she vowed revenge, 379 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: and this is the revenge. So she He had a 380 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: hearing today. He's been in a Albuquerque jail and this 381 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: hearing was to see whether he can. 382 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: Get out for the trial. So Alex, how. 383 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: Are you, heyl John, Yeah, this hearing's going on right now. 384 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 5: This is it behind me, and he is sitting right 385 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 5: now in shackles, disheveled hair, looking at his attorney trying 386 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 5: to get him out of jail because he's been in 387 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 5: jail since he was arrested. But he's making his attempt 388 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 5: at freedom. And he went into this hearing with a 389 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 5: message of as you mentioned this claim involving one of 390 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 5: the two boys on the set of The Cleaning Lady 391 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 5: and earlier claims, they're saying our lies, and he submitted 392 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 5: eighty seven letters of support from friends and family, saying 393 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: he's a good man, that he is a military veteran, 394 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 5: that he has integrity. One of the letters from and 395 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 5: she's in court sitting right behind him, Melissa Gilbert, his wife, 396 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 5: the actress. We thought she was going to testify. They 397 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 5: said thirteen people were going to testify. Only one ended 398 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: up a few minutes ago, the director of photography from 399 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 5: the Cleaning Lady. But in her letter, she said tim 400 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 5: as the strongest moral compass of any human I've ever known. 401 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 5: But prosecutors are telling the judge he is dangerous and 402 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 5: should not be free in the community, saying a moment ago. 403 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 8: And the power that the defendant has had over all 404 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 8: of these victims in the position that he's played that 405 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 8: role in. 406 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: So he is sitting there and prosecutors have laid out 407 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 5: a bunch of claims of sexual misconduct over the years, 408 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 5: including this one involving the boy one from twenty twelve, 409 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 5: in which they say a woman claimed the bus Field 410 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 5: touched her in a movie theater years ago, a sixteen 411 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 5: year old in Sacramento claiming he sexually assaulted her former 412 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: assistant from Melissa Gilbert, who claimed he was inappropriate with 413 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 5: her another actress who claimed he forcibly grabbed her and 414 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 5: threw her against a wall and a trailer on a 415 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 5: set years ago, and then a settlement cup of decades 416 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 5: ago that he paid out of I think one hundred 417 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 5: hundred and twenty thousand dollars something like that. So they 418 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 5: say that is a pattern that shows that he is dangerous. 419 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 8: That pattern of touching of criminal sexual contact is important 420 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 8: for the pattern of the defendant. 421 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 5: But John his team is claiming right now it is 422 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 5: all lies and this case is about retribution for the 423 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 5: two brothers being fired from The Cleaning Lady. Said, his 424 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 5: attorneys are slamming prosecutors, saying there is zero evidence that 425 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 5: there is nothing that could ever be proved beyond reasonable doubt, 426 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 5: that beyond any kind of doubt that he did this. 427 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 5: And they say the Warner Brothers did an investigation and 428 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 5: didn't find any wrongdoing. The Cleaning Lady's director of photography, 429 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: he took the witness stand about fifteen twenty minutes ago 430 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 5: and he said. 431 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 6: This, is it possible that mister Bussfield inappropriately touched sl 432 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 6: on the set of The Cleaning Lady? 433 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: No, why not? 434 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 7: It may seem film sets may seem chaotic if you're 435 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 7: an outsider, but everything we do is incredibly regimented. We're 436 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 7: all a group of professionals who all know what they 437 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 7: need to do a lot of times without being told. 438 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 7: And at any given time, if the child was on set, 439 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 7: there was a minimum of ten people there on the 440 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 7: set with them. It's just how it works. 441 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 5: He said the dad is an aggressive set parent, that 442 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 5: the kids were not very good actors and they wrote 443 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 5: them off of the show and brought in other kids 444 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 5: to take their place, and that the parents were angry 445 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 5: about that, and that they vowed revenge on Timothy Bussfield. 446 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 5: He said that the dad would have his kids hug 447 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 5: the adults on set where it was uncomfortable. He'd have 448 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 5: them going and hug them. They claim that, well, there's 449 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 5: a recording where they denied any kind of sexual contact 450 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 5: when they were interviewed by police, But prosecutors say that 451 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 5: is normal when police talk to young children. There's a 452 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 5: power dynamic there. That they're afraid and that it came 453 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 5: out later in therapy, but that they denied it to 454 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 5: police who interviewed them. So the judge will decide here 455 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 5: in a few minutes if he remains in jail or 456 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 5: and that could be months until he goes on trial 457 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: or if he can bail out. And his attorneys are 458 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 5: saying you cannot keep him in jail based on these 459 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: allegations that have no evidence behind them except for the 460 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 5: word of two little boys that they're saying with no evidence, 461 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: that he can't remain in jail. 462 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: So we'll see what the judge does. 463 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: So there aren't witnesses that you're aware of to know, 464 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: the witnesses said they never yeah, that they never saw anything. 465 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 5: There were some others on the set who said that 466 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: he was, you know, touchy, one of the huggy type 467 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 5: guys that they would kind of made you uncomfortable because 468 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 5: he would get very close and touch people a lot. 469 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 5: But there are no claims that we know of anybody 470 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 5: who saw anything. 471 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: All Right, You mentioned all those other incidents and he 472 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 2: hasn't been charged in any of them, although you said 473 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: there's a settlement that wasn't in a lot of the 474 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: news stories. I'm looking at NBC news story and I 475 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: talked about this before, and they had just the six 476 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 2: teen year old girl who made some claims, But you 477 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: had quite a list. 478 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: There it's quite a list. 479 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what prosecutors, Yeah, laid out a few 480 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 5: minutes ago, and a lot of these we didn't know 481 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: about until now, but they're submitting them to the court. 482 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 5: And his side is claiming they're really going after the 483 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 5: claim of the Sacramento alleged assault at the B Street Theater, 484 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 5: which he founded. That they are saying that that they 485 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 5: have proof that the father had a goal too. I 486 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 5: think it was a script or something that he wanted 487 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 5: to get through, and that he essentially sexualized his daughter 488 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 5: to get cozy with with Busfield and that that led 489 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 5: into physical touching and then the family made these claims. 490 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 5: The prosecutors say no, that the father found out about 491 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 5: what went on inappropriately as she was interning or trying 492 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 5: out for the theater, and that he's a therapist, and that 493 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 5: they made a deal when Busfield broke down and said, 494 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 5: I won't do it more if you just let me 495 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 5: go get therapy, and then the family agreed and never 496 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 5: went to police because they said, Okay, you're gonna go 497 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 5: get therapy. So at two different sides of that one 498 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 5: as well. 499 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously any of these incidents could be 500 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: could be fabricated. 501 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: But jeez, when you have five of them swirling in 502 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: the air. 503 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it's it's hard to tell. He denies 504 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 5: all of them through their filings, and it is. There's 505 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 5: no proof behind any of them except for claims that 506 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 5: have been made, and some of them the one in 507 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 5: the movie Theater in twenty twelve that his side claims 508 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 5: that was consensual and that it was something going on 509 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 5: in the movie theater. You know, but you've got one 510 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 5: side claiming that this is satual misconduct and the other 511 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 5: side saying it's either lies or misunderstandings and that there's 512 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 5: nothing more to it. 513 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: Plus, this guy is sixty eight and has been married 514 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 2: a long time. It's not like, you know, seventy seventeen 515 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 2: messing around with his girlfriend of the movie theater, Yeah, 516 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: with Melissa Gilbert. 517 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: Shouldn't be in a movie theater with anybody. Yeah. 518 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 5: And then Melissa Gilbert uncomfortably is sitting right behind him 519 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 5: as they're laying all of this out. 520 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: I wonder if she knew all this all right, Thanks 521 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: very much, Alex, you got it. Thanks John. 522 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk more tomorrow. Yeah, it's when it's when 523 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: all the extra stories come out. And each one by 524 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 2: themselves you could deny, but when they stack up that high, 525 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: really all of them, all of them are fake. 526 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 9: Huh. 527 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: That's a tough sell. 528 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: When we come back, another legal case, and we're gonna 529 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: talk to Royal Oaks about this one for Maybec News 530 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: because Tim Wafts, the Minnesota Governor, and the mayor of Minneapolis, 531 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 2: Jacob Frye and other Democratic officials are all getting subpoenas. 532 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: The Trump administration Department of Justice is investigating whether they 533 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: obstructed the immigration operation, which is a federal crime. 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