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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Segura.

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Speaker 2: He looks you live on a Monday edition, merely bo

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Speaker 2: the great Z. How are you, buddy? How are you living?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. Nice weekend, lovely weekend. Other than the weather

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Speaker 3: becoming this nonsense, This is terrible, terrible, Kenny. I know

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Speaker 3: people have cleared winter over, not sad.

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Speaker 2: I did Sad. I thought, well, you were trying to

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Speaker 2: will it, and I appreciate your efforts. I just I

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Speaker 2: have a feeling like this could stick around a little bit.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna leave.

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Speaker 2: My definition of my my theory behind winning over winter

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Speaker 2: over was.

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Speaker 3: Snow.

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Speaker 4: It may.

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Speaker 2: We will get more snow, but it will be gone,

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Speaker 2: like it'll drop and then it'll melt and that's it.

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Speaker 2: But it looks like we could be in for something

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Speaker 2: here a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately, but it was a yeah, nice weekend,

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Speaker 3: had some good food, made a I made a shepherd's

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Speaker 3: pie last night.

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Speaker 2: So how'd you do it? I did, Did you do

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Speaker 2: like the the full pie, the whole bit?

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Speaker 3: So I did. Yeah, I did ground lamb Okay, some

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Speaker 3: onion obviously, so there's some onion. Then in the ground

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Speaker 3: lamb in there I think salt, pepper, thyme, rosemary and parsley,

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Speaker 3: and then a little get some peas and some carrot

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Speaker 3: to make like the meat lay layer. And then we

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Speaker 3: had mashed potatoes going made those and then you brush

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Speaker 3: those on the top and then in the oven for

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Speaker 3: a half hour four hundred.

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Speaker 2: Was it in like a pie crust.

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Speaker 3: No, so it's the top layer is mashed potatoes.

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Speaker 2: Oh, so that's your that's your pie. That's the pie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then it's in like one of those glass

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Speaker 3: casserole dishes. I'll tell you something. It was so good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it was, but cannot be good for you. No,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing good about it. I don't know that I've

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Speaker 3: ever felt so full as I did last night.

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Speaker 2: A bit of a hearty meal.

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Speaker 3: It was a hearty that it was great though, ld

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Speaker 3: though he helped me out with some belly laughs. I mean,

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Speaker 3: there were a.

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Speaker 2: Few thought I'm not kidding you. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: top ten episode ever, I'm ready. I watched it once.

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Speaker 2: There were several times I was laughing so hard, was crying.

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Speaker 2: There should be a statue. It was for a pioneer,

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. I mean, the dream scheme, the dream,

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Speaker 2: the dream scheme, that he's so good. A few things

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Speaker 2: we can't but like he's going out, he's going out

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Speaker 2: on the very exactly, and he feels like.

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Speaker 3: Right now because he's going out that like he can

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Speaker 3: say anything, or have Leon say they can say anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they are, they they are.

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Speaker 2: It's great. It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Funk when Freddy Funkhauser was pissed at him, It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna roll over and now I'm in charge, which

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Speaker 3: was I was dying.

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Speaker 2: Vaughn is just killing it. He's so naturally funny. I

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Speaker 2: also think it My favorite parts are anytime like and

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Speaker 2: Leon and and Vince both do it where they he

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Speaker 2: naturally belly laughs for something they say, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can tell like it's not a he's.

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Speaker 3: Tickles the script he gets he can get you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. That was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of the notion that someone who

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Speaker 3: pulls a flask out has a drinking problem.

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Speaker 2: I just thought it was so it was just so

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Speaker 2: great how he pulled it out, like and then he

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Speaker 2: goes at one point he goes, you try to ruin

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Speaker 2: something that was elegant doing something elegant, what do you

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Speaker 3: I know, I've seen him pour it into something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd had that was I thought that was incredible choice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you hat like an it was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Well so, and I'm of an age where a lot

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Speaker 2: a lot of my buddies were all of the same age.

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Speaker 2: But I I was where buddies of mine got the

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Speaker 2: ones who got married right out of that. It was

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Speaker 2: a wedding gift like that got married, right gift?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I got it in our early twenties. Like I got

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Speaker 2: three or four of them, where like is like my

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Speaker 2: of them that I don't you never used a flask. No,

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Speaker 2: but I at the same time, and I was watching

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Speaker 2: him do it, I thought that is I maybe I'll

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Speaker 2: bring him out for the golf. Little swing juice, just

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Speaker 3: Uh, he's so good. The golf was good. Yesterday the

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Speaker 3: It was tight. Came down to an insane lipout from

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Speaker 3: Wyndham Clark. I don't know, do you watch it?

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Speaker 2: No, I was, I had. I did see an image

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Speaker 2: of what appeared like the top of the ball was

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Speaker 2: in the hole, was out of the hole, and everything

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that ball came out?

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Speaker 2: How did it?

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Speaker 3: How did it kind of turned around and came out back?

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Speaker 3: This was like the way that it came and went

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Speaker 3: down and came out like this. I mean, he thought

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Speaker 3: as good the whole he's about the fist pump is

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Speaker 3: that it was? Would that be to win it? Or

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Speaker 3: to force the playoff with him and Shuffler?

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Speaker 2: Oh cheez, and Scheffler shot like sixty four.

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Speaker 3: Scheffler's a beast. He needs more majors. I was just

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Speaker 3: through his resume, so something like in his last fifty starts,

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Speaker 3: he's got twenty top threes, which is outrageous, but he

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Speaker 3: only has one major with the MASTERSS in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: He needs more majors. That's only hole in his resume

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Speaker 3: right now. But he's young though, right it's twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: He's led the tour in money two years in a row.

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Speaker 3: He's been the Rookie of the year. He's only been

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Speaker 2: This is fourth year on tour, so he's twenty seven.

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Speaker 2: He's won just the one masters.

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Speaker 3: One master, that's it, and he's got two seconds and

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Speaker 3: other majors, okays win. He needs the personal Grand Slam

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Speaker 3: and then you start talking about Okay, he might be

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Speaker 3: he's might be the best of this group.

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Speaker 2: Who's in that group? Like, who else is that the

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Speaker 2: is that the just Thomas and those guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kopka Kepka.

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Speaker 2: Is the best of that group right now.

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Speaker 3: From majors for sure.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's what you're judged. Yeah, right, like the rest

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like if you're dominating, if you win

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Speaker 3: more times on tour every year than everybody else, that's

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Speaker 3: but that's it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but majors, majors, I mean, no one's

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Speaker 2: an individual year or whatever, but like the majors is

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Speaker 2: what the that's how you're Gonnabard. What's Koepka got five?

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Speaker 4: I'll look it up.

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Speaker 2: I think he might have six. He definitely won the

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Speaker 2: US and the uh, the US opening, the PGA back

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Speaker 2: has he won the Masters yet? He's won one since

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Speaker 2: he's been on live because he was the live guy

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Speaker 2: that won. All right, I think he's got five.

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Speaker 3: He has got nine wins on the PGA tour, so

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Speaker 3: Speet's got I mean a Scheffler how has eight wins?

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Speaker 3: And he has got He's won the PGA three times

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Speaker 3: he won the US Open twice. He's never won the

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Speaker 3: he's the defending PGA champion.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, so there you go.

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Speaker 3: He's yeah, yeah, that's he's your guy.

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Speaker 2: He's your guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: How's your weekend visit? The boys got a little attempt

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Speaker 3: also funny sneak it in. I stood him up on

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Speaker 2: A little bit. He's he just is hunting it. Like

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Speaker 2: He will rush his dinner to try to play it.

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Speaker 2: He will you respect. His dedication has got some love.

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Speaker 2: His his dedication to pleasing himself is big. I mean,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, he no, he's he's pretty locked into it.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I was. We had hoops, had some lacrosse,

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Speaker 3: So it was pretty pretty jam packed. Yeah, pretty jamp sounds.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, but there yeah. The So then kerb at

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Speaker 2: the end of the night last night was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: And then I watched the hoops, watch some of the

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Speaker 2: basketball stuff. It was crazy what happened in the MAC

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Speaker 2: Championship game and once this did he see it? Who's

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Speaker 3: Gibbe's team was out? I was I was an interest.

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Speaker 2: Who's he talking to you? That's so important social media?

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Speaker 3: Give give?

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Speaker 2: Did you watch the MAC Final? Did you see how

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Speaker 2: it happened? Oh? Were you watching it? So it was

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Speaker 2: on at the It was on at the club we

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Speaker 2: were at where they were doing the fundraiser, and there

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Speaker 2: was a bunch of Akron alums who were in there.

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Speaker 2: Akron and Kent State and that's the their big rivalry game.

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Speaker 2: Kent State was the eight seed, got all the way through,

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Speaker 2: knocked off Toledo. Who was the one knocked off? You guys?

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Speaker 5: Proud, awesome rocket, great bridge.

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Speaker 2: So Kent State goes up one with six seconds left.

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Speaker 2: They go up one and the kid for Kent State

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Speaker 2: has no point of reference on score or time, and

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Speaker 2: so Akron inbounds the ball and he fouls the kid.

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Speaker 4: He has reference.

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Speaker 2: They're just not paying attention.

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Speaker 3: There's a thing up there that even says the diff.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's devastated after he understands what he did,

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Speaker 2: but he just he was out of his damn mind.

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Speaker 2: They've been they had been playing catch up, so they

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Speaker 2: he didn't. They go up one with six seconds, and

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Speaker 2: he he hunts the ball, he hunts the point guard,

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Speaker 2: It was panic, but this it was panic.

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Speaker 3: This is this is bad on a whole nother level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just yeah, I can't my hunches. It just

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Speaker 2: It was CBS, ESPN, ESPN Saturday, but it was CBS

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Speaker 5: Correct.

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Speaker 5: And the and the problem is it's championship week, so

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Speaker 5: like there was no play into that, and that play

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Speaker 2: They did not know.

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Speaker 5: Still there was no room.

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Speaker 2: No, there were five teams. There were five teams who

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Speaker 3: Including one who fired their coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Long Beach State and Dan Monson, who actually was

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Speaker 2: Mac was gonna get one. And that's it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: pretty crazy. And that's their super Bowl, right, you do that.

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Speaker 3: That's that's it. Just getting to the dance.

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Speaker 2: Get to the dance. Yeah. Yeah. John Gross done a

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Speaker 3: You get I'm sure you get like tournament gear. I'm

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Speaker 2: Kinds of Oh yeah, they take care of it. And

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Speaker 2: Sibey tournament? Give me, I've been you've been, You've been,

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Speaker 2: like you ever follow like how a team is treated

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and the practice days are like forty five minute practice. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's coaching two players.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then you're free and then you're done.

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Speaker 5: It's not like you have multiple things to do.

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Speaker 3: No, it's good what kids say afterwards.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's devastated. You could tell like he knew

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Speaker 4: What did I do?

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Speaker 5: It's just another chapter in the mac Championship because there

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Speaker 2: It's one of those ones like if you haven't gone

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Speaker 2: even you have no ties, Like I don't have any

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Speaker 3: I no, that's something that they they certainly would like

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Reportedly working out edge rusher Aaron Lynch, who hasn't

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Speaker 2: this is Abe does this, he'll he'll find you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's the one that Garners the most attention.

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Speaker 3: Jamis is the backup, and Huntley's gonna be here and compete.

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Speaker 2: That's wild. So I have when I saw this, I thought, well,

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Speaker 3: That's my understanding, and these are this is from yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's fair. I think and understand how

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Speaker 3: But that prospect there's I'm sure there's no guaranteed money,

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Speaker 3: Nobody's worried about nobody's worried about that. Yeah, look at

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Speaker 3: He's going They're getting fields.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers getting justin fields. Immediately, I may have been

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Speaker 3: They're getting justin fields. So they went from having Kenny Pickett,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? All valid. How does Baltimore not do it? How

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 2: So there's that part of it. The second part of

441
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Speaker 2: about it is they get Russell Wilson, who we will

442
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Speaker 2: acknowledge is not let Russ Cook Russell Wilson anymore, but

443
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: is a significant, significant upgrade over what they've had at quarterbacks. Yes,

444
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger left and they get him for about a buck

445
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,920
Speaker 2: and a half is what it works out to with

446
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Speaker 2: them were paying the other thirty eight million dollars of

447
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Speaker 2: his salary, so they get to they get him for

448
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 2: next to nothing for free. Then they turn around and

449
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Speaker 2: they trade. For some reason, Philly's give back for Kenny

450
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Speaker 2: Pickett blew my mind. If you're Philly, why wouldn't you

451
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Speaker 2: just take Fields at that price?

452
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Speaker 3: And he feels like he fits in much better, much

453
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Speaker 3: better with what you want to do. I don't get up.

454
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Speaker 2: So they bring in, they trade. They traded more for

455
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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, then the Steelers traded for justin Fields. Yes,

456
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Speaker 2: now some of that I'm sure is that Pickett has

457
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Speaker 2: a couple of years left on a deal in Fields

458
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Speaker 2: left to make a decision on. But eh, so all

459
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Speaker 2: of that is crazy. There was reporting out of Chicago

460
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Speaker 2: that there were upwards of six teams interested on Fields

461
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Speaker 2: and this is the place he wanted to go that

462
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Speaker 2: we're willing to get. I mean, this is a nothing

463
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Speaker 2: give back, but that there were six other teams that

464
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Speaker 2: were had inquired about him at around this rate, and

465
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Speaker 2: he wanted to go to Pittsburgh with the idea of

466
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Speaker 2: he could sit for a year and then start.

467
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Speaker 3: I would love for you and I to be able

468
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Speaker 3: to speak with anonymously. Yeah, general managers around the league

469
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Speaker 3: to understand why Justin Fields only went for a conditional

470
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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't get it.

471
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Speaker 2: I don't either.

472
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Speaker 3: I don't get it. I'd like to know why. I

473
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Speaker 3: just if you're the Colts, get him to bring in there.

474
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Speaker 3: If you got Richard's like that way. If Richardson goes down,

475
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Speaker 3: your seasons not to real because Minshew's gone, I think

476
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 3: he should be. I think if I was Vegas, I

477
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Speaker 3: would have taken him, take him and Minshewe let him

478
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Speaker 3: have a real competition.

479
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Speaker 2: But what did that say about that his his coordinator

480
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Speaker 2: is the coordinator in Vegas and he wanted Minshew not him.

481
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Speaker 3: So there's something there's obvious, there's a component we don't know.

482
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Speaker 3: My guess is it goes back to the fact that

483
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Speaker 3: he doesn't know how to read defenses and doesn't know

484
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Speaker 3: how to when the ball is supposed to go where

485
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Speaker 3: they call the right play and the ball is supposed

486
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Speaker 3: to go a certain place, He's not doing it at

487
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Speaker 3: a rate in which they are comfortable with.

488
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Speaker 2: I think that's that's clearly got to be It that

489
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Speaker 2: that look, this is open, throw it. Nah, I'm gonna

490
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Speaker 2: do that. But then something great happens half the time. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 2: but that's not the point. The point is you're supposed

492
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Speaker 2: to hit this. Yeah, and that annoys people. It's the

493
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Speaker 2: only thing. But like you you mentioned a couple of

494
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Speaker 2: them that I mean, like obviously Indy would have made.

495
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Speaker 3: All neland have taken a chance.

496
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Speaker 2: I have no idea. That was the one I laid

497
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Speaker 2: out was like the New England. New England doesn't want

498
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Speaker 2: to give take him for a six, have him in

499
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Speaker 2: there with Jacoby Brissette.

500
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Speaker 3: It doesn't make any sense.

501
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 2: And then they get you draft Marvin at three and

502
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: away you go, or trade out at three and get

503
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Speaker 2: two picks from Denver or two picks from Minnesota. I

504
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Speaker 2: guess you do the two picks from Minnesota. Like why

505
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Speaker 2: would you not do that?

506
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Speaker 3: I don't know, don't get it.

507
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Speaker 2: I don't get it, get it, I don't get it.

508
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 2: But it's do you how much do you think he

509
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: plays this year for them? Like Russe will be the starter?

510
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Speaker 3: But like in my this is again and this I'm

511
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 3: clearly out of touch with reality, perhaps, but in my mind,

512
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Speaker 3: why can't he beat Russ out. But here's the other thing,

513
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Speaker 3: Like why can't he do to Russ what Russ did

514
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Speaker 3: to Matt Flynn. He very well could because here's the

515
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Speaker 3: other part of it. And Tomlin reportedly told Russ like,

516
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Speaker 3: you're the starter.

517
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Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with you. I saw Russ

518
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 2: like tweetnat him quarterback room lit, let's go get it.

519
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.

520
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: That's well, that's well.

521
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: But the reality is is that when they're in that building,

522
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 2: and that's a pretty lively building, there's a lot of

523
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: personality on that roster. Fields is going to dominate that situation.

524
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 2: He is alpha like he is whatever, he is whatever.

525
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: If we have him way overestimated as a football player,

526
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: maybe we clearly do. That's fine, that's fine. But he

527
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: is leader of men, dude, so like they will gravitate

528
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Speaker 2: towards him and the same and not the strange bird.

529
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: So I guess if we're hoping for chaos over there,

530
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Speaker 2: that would be the case us that him in that

531
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Speaker 2: room will USEE.

532
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Speaker 3: I like them a lot more when they had a

533
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: quarterback who's stunk. Yeah two In fact, Rudolph played fine,

534
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: but I mean Kenny Pickett was that was their guy.

535
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: But there was a steel welded hard ceiling on that.

536
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: Now a hard deck.

537
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: There's no hard deck here. No, Yeah, it was as

538
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: soon as you said it. I knew it would be true.

539
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: As I was reading the picket trade. I didn't put

540
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Speaker 2: the put it together that quickly you did, And then

541
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: it happened and it was done, and it was like, well, yeah,

542
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: that's that's exactly what they're going to do. So now

543
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: they will have Friday, so they'll have him and then

544
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: they'll be able to fifth year option him for next year.

545
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: So we'll have him for at least two years to

546
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 2: see what he's all about and see if it works. Yeah,

547
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: George Picktt's gonna like him.

548
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 3: They went from having Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph and

549
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: no future at that position at all, to Russell Wilson

550
00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 3: and Justin Fields and having, in my opinion, potentially right

551
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 3: future of that position.

552
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: In a week.

553
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: In a week, and Pickett demanded to be traded, right,

554
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 3: So what I don't understand is, so he demands to

555
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: be traded, he stays in the state of Pennsylvania. Yeah,

556
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Speaker 3: he goes to place where he has absolutely no chance

557
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: of playing unless there's an injury.

558
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: No, no chance ever shut his mouth? What was going?

559
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: What's wrong with him? Member? Because he didn't suit up

560
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: last year?

561
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

562
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: Maybe he's a punk.

563
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people defending him though and

564
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 3: acting like this is some craziness.

565
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: I think Pittsburgh people love him.

566
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Honestly, he should have just shut his mouth, tried

567
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: to learn from Russell Wilson whatever he could, and then

568
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: rust is gonna be gone in a year. And then

569
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: you get to do you have one more chance? He

570
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 3: become here and Justin Fields wouldn't be there. No, this

571
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: is really Kenny Kenny Pickett's fault. Honestly, Maybe can blame him.

572
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: I do. Yeah, I blame a lot of people.

573
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised more people than very surprised that there

574
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 2: were an other Tames that kick tires, Like who's quarterback?

575
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: They don't have one?

576
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 7: They have Jared's Stidham right now exactly. And Ben de Nucci.

577
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: Well that's what led me when we were talking about Huntley,

578
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: like I was like, oh, are they maybe they're gonna

579
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 2: maybe the incton sign on Jamis that would make sense,

580
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: like Sean Payton had Jamis in New Orleans you know,

581
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: Jameis is fun to watch, you know that. That's why

582
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: when I saw the stuff with Huntley, I was like, well,

583
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: maybe that's what that's all about. But yeah, they don't

584
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: have anybody.

585
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know, I don't get it.

586
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy the way that it all shook out,

587
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: the idea that I mean. I remember thinking, like when

588
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: we first got to the COMBA and I thought Fields

589
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 2: will go first, and then that the rest will domino

590
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: off of that. And then once we were there, I

591
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: was like, actually, it's gonna be Cousins because then I

592
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: realized Atlanta wanted Cousins Bigley, So then I thought it

593
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: would go Cousins, Fields, Wilson down the line. That did

594
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: not happen. I mean, even like, what did Seattle give

595
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: up for Sam Darnold, Sam Howell Howell? I'm sorry, Sam Howe.

596
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like more than that.

597
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: More than that, it.

598
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: Was a pick swap though. Let me see, I think

599
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: it was like.

600
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: Like there was do you have it?

601
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 7: There was at least like a third round pick and

602
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 7: a fourth round pick that got exchanged, so way more

603
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Speaker 7: than Field got.

604
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: So they got Sam Howell, Come on, ESPN, Sam Howell

606
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Speaker 3: and a fourth round draft pick and a sixth round

607
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Speaker 3: pick in exchange for a third and a fifth.

608
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: So it's two pick swaps.

609
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: So it's moving down one round from the third to

610
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Speaker 3: the fourth and one round from the fifth to the sixth.

611
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Speaker 2: Okay, that feels like more than a sixth way more? Yeah, yes, yeah, crazy,

612
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 2: It is absolutely crazy, all right. Lots to get to,

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Speaker 8: of start talking figure something out and here we are.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned this all happened while you were in Europe. Yeah, okay,

658
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Speaker 3: so let's start there. Tell me about the trip.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome.

660
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Speaker 8: You know, we took two weeks to go out. There

661
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Speaker 8: was our first time going out. We went to Paris first,

662
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Speaker 8: and then we went down to Nice for a couple

663
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Speaker 8: of days and then over to Rome and then Florence.

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Speaker 4: So Florence was amazing.

665
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Speaker 3: Florence is pretty amazing, good foods hard. It's probably hard

666
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Speaker 3: to come back from from that.

667
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Speaker 4: It'll be interesting.

668
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Speaker 3: What was your favorite other places?

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Speaker 4: You want?

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Speaker 8: Uh for the scenery and the food was nice really,

671
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Speaker 8: the culture and the history and everything was definitely Rome.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty impressive.

673
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Speaker 4: All see you in the Vatican. Yeah, it was. It

674
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Speaker 4: was pretty sweet. That's cool.

675
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Speaker 3: And then you go, it was the whole fam Yeah,

676
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Speaker 3: all three of us, all three of you.

677
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Speaker 4: How'd she do?

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Speaker 8: So we did the red eye flight to Paris, thinking, oh,

679
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Speaker 8: surely she'll sleep the whole time. No, she did it, No,

680
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Speaker 8: she did it so little rough on all of us.

681
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Speaker 8: We landed like one thirty am, you know, Cleveland time,

682
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Speaker 8: and it was it was pretty rough. But once we

683
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Speaker 8: got in, you know, we just slept for a little while,

684
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Speaker 8: went around, saw the Eiffel Tower and from there on

685
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Speaker 8: the rest of the trip.

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Speaker 4: Was pretty smooth. That's awesome.

687
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Speaker 3: And then now your wife and your daughter here with

688
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Speaker 3: you today for you to sign your contract come back

689
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Speaker 3: to the Cleveland Browns. What does it mean to kind

690
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Speaker 3: of have your family here with you? That's got to

691
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: be pretty neat. Oh, it's awesome, you know. I mean,

692
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Speaker 3: they're they're my rock.

693
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Speaker 8: You know, they will keep me going, you know, and

694
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 8: stuff gets hard, so to have them here with me,

695
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 8: it means a lot.

696
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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about coming back. Bubba's back, yep,

697
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: your back, the hops back, Charlie's back. To have that

698
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Speaker 3: continuity has probably got to be nice. And would this

699
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Speaker 3: be one maybe since Buffalo would be the only time

700
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Speaker 3: you could have you had kind of that continuity like

701
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Speaker 3: this before.

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Speaker 8: Uh No, I mean college, you know again, Jason, you know,

703
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,479
Speaker 8: had two years together, but even then my first year

704
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 8: in New mex So, I didn't hold for him. So

705
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Speaker 8: you know, this has really been the first time that

706
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Speaker 8: we get Wow, all three of us going together again.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: How pumped are the boys?

709
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: Oh, they're loving it. They loving it.

710
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. That's great. So you had a nice

711
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,239
Speaker 3: trip in the off season coming back. What was it

712
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Speaker 3: like if you reflect back kind of on your first

713
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Speaker 3: year with Bubba Ventron?

714
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Speaker 4: Oh, it was awesome. I mean he's a tough dude,

715
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 4: but I love it.

716
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 8: You know, he makes you work as hard as you

717
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 8: can and you know, brings out the best in you.

718
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Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to see what we got next.

719
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Speaker 3: What did you think of him in the locker room

720
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Speaker 3: the night the we beat the Jets clinched the playoffs

721
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: and he's in there for the post game speech in

722
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: a helmet that kind of sums up Bubba is have

723
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Speaker 3: you ever seen that before?

724
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Speaker 4: No? No, And I hope I see it again next year.

725
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 3: The same same as you kind of reflect back on

726
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: last season. You know, you had the best seat in

727
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Speaker 3: the house for a lot of things you were involved

728
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Speaker 3: and obviously a lot of big plays as well. What

729
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: do you kind of take away from what was, in

730
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Speaker 3: many ways a very magical season, but one that was

731
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Speaker 3: fraught with so much to overcome.

732
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Speaker 8: You know, it's it was a lot, you know, with

733
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Speaker 8: how much injury and stuff we had to still win

734
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 8: eleven games and go to the playoffs and really, I

735
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 8: mean up until the end, we're in it for the

736
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Speaker 8: number one seed.

737
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Speaker 4: I mean that's just unreal.

738
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Speaker 8: So it makes me excited to see, you know, keep

739
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Speaker 8: everyone healthy. You know how far we could go with that?

740
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 3: All right, so you boom the ball. We all know

741
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: that you can flip the field position. Five straight seasons

742
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: you've had a punt of at least seventy two yards.

743
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

744
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 3: You go back to twenty twenty is seventy two. That

745
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: was the longest in the league. That year twenty twenty one,

746
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 3: eighty two, last year seventy six, this year seventy three.

747
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: How does this keep happening? Are you just you just

748
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: killing it?

749
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Speaker 4: Even a blinded you know, squirrel fight, No no, No.

750
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Speaker 3: Five years in a row takes that out of the equation.

751
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 3: That's it's not it's not a chance anymore at that point.

752
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: You know what, I don't know.

753
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 8: It just ball hits your foot in the right spot,

754
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 8: and you know how the wind gets here, and.

755
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 4: Sure it's like a plane. You get it up into

756
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: the jet stream and thing just goes.

757
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: So letting go and let it go?

758
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: All right?

759
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: In the off season given, and we go back to

760
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: Houston the first time.

761
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Speaker 4: Yep.

762
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Speaker 3: Have we spent some time on kickoffs and extra points

763
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Speaker 3: and field goals and in the event that you're gonna

764
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Speaker 3: you might have to be called upon.

765
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think.

766
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Speaker 8: We let you know, d Bell take that again and

767
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 8: let them get some more tackles.

768
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: I think that's all right.

769
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 3: Which was actually turned out funny and that was ended

770
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Speaker 3: up being Obviously, it was very sad to see d

771
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: Hop go down. You got banged up in that game

772
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 3: as well, But to see Chief lobbying, to see d

773
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Speaker 3: Bell going trying to kick into the net was that

774
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: kind of surreal watching all of a sudden, it's like,

775
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 3: what are we doing?

776
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 8: It was like this seems like a high school thing

777
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 8: right now, Like what are we doing like it.

778
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: It was pretty funny. But you know, hey, the more

779
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 3: you can do, yeah, the more you can do. Exactly

780
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: what does it mean to be back with these fans?

781
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: Because I know that this is such a good football town.

782
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: They even they love the punter, They appreciate everybody on

783
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: the fifty three right, that contributes to our success. Is

784
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 3: what to mean to be back here in Cleveland?

785
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 4: It means everything.

786
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 8: I mean, that was one thing we were considering, you know,

787
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 8: in free agencies, where are you gonna live? And you know,

788
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 8: we've found a good spot here, great neighborhood, you know,

789
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 8: and yeah, we just love the community, and you know

790
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 8: that was a big factor in us really wanting to

791
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 8: stay here.

792
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: You just want the sun a little more, right, Hey,

793
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: I'm not going to complain about the sun.

794
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: I was a little spoiled growing up in California. So same, same, same,

795
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: That's right. We're paying our time now.

796
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

797
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: Well, anyway, it's so great to have you back. It's

798
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: great that you get to have that continue, you get

799
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 3: to share this today as your little daughters scurrying around

800
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: after the football outside of our studio right now. It's awesome, man,

801
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: So congrats and welcome back.

802
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 4: Thank you all right, very good.

803
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: We will come up around the league a lot of

804
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: news over the weekend. We'll get you updated on all

805
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: of that coming up next. List to Cleveland Browns Daily on.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: I guess let's start with this process and how you

816
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: ended up a Cleveland brown We're thrilled to have you.

817
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 6: Obviously, it was really easy.

818
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 9: I mean my first visit, I got released by Buffalo

819
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 9: two weeks ago. As soon as I got released, Cleveland

820
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 9: and some other teams reached out Cleveland a text my

821
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 9: aiden said we want to have them first.

822
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 6: Got me here last Monday. Guy here.

823
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Speaker 9: Obviously, I know Bubba, I know Ken Dorsey yep uh.

824
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 9: And then I actually saw Duce Daley. When I saw

825
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 9: those guys, I was like, oh, because Dud's actually ran

826
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 9: my pro day when he was in Philly, and I

827
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 9: always liked him. My dad even said, I hope he

828
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Speaker 9: coached you one day, so I saw Duce and I'm like, oh, yeah,

829
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 9: I like it here. Then I actually have been watching

830
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 9: film with you guys when you had Joe and Deshaun

831
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 9: and PJ and all the quarterbacks. So I've been watching

832
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 9: film and both sides kind of agreed that I think

833
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 9: it would be a perfect fit. And they thought that

834
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 9: and we thought that, so it was really easy.

835
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Speaker 6: I didn't. I had some more visits set up, but

836
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 6: after here, I was just like, oh, I like it.

837
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Speaker 6: You got to go where you like, where you feel welcome,

838
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 6: and where you feel like it's home. So that's awesome.

839
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: Well, you said like you're dressed for success today, looking

840
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: very sharp. You said you got to make a good

841
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: first impression. Apparently the Browns did that, and they done

842
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: it visit, they've done it, and you did it as well.

843
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 9: You've already when I get on the field, I got

844
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 9: another first impression to make. After I rehab, get my

845
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 9: stuff back and.

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Speaker 3: Go on, oie, how are you doing physically?

847
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 6: It's going well. I've been running for about four weeks.

848
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: Now, how hard was it to miss this season like that?

849
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 9: Oh, it was hard, but I think, you know, the

850
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 9: biggest thing of it, it was a mental reset. It was

851
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 9: I want to play over ten years. It's my seventh year.

852
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 9: I had a break, I guess in the year six. Yeah,

853
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 9: so that's what I'm looking for. Come back and try

854
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 9: to see if I can get five more years out

855
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 9: of it. But I think playing wise, I mean, it

856
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 9: was hard watching, but I think the rehab with it

857
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 9: just sucked. Because any person who's that nee surgery just

858
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 9: knows the first two or three months are just they're brutal.

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00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 6: You can't hardly sleep, they.

860
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 9: Have you on certain drugs like the perkosets might make

861
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 9: you feel weird, like it's It was tough, but I

862
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 9: think just watching the team, especially watching my former team

863
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 9: losing the playoffs to a team that I essentially really

864
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 9: came there to help them beat. That's why even went

865
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Speaker 9: to Buffalo. I'm like, Okay, maybe I can be a

866
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 9: player to help them get over the top. That was

867
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 9: really hard just going through the year. But honestly, mentally,

868
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 9: I've been up and down, but it's been a lot

869
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 9: better last three four weeks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got good to see a smiling I

871
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, that's it.

872
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I mean, NeXT's going through that. He

873
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: had the catastrophic jury he had on his knee, and

874
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 2: it's those first months when you're having to physic It's

875
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: one thing that like the shock of oh my god,

876
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: this happened. Then the rationalization of like, all right, we're

877
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: gonna do surgery. But then if you then now the

878
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: rehab part, right, I mean, don't need to take you

879
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: down to it. I just it just got it seemed

880
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: to me. It seems grilly. I've never been through it.

881
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: I can't imagine going through it.

882
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 9: I think, yeah, it's like we're professional athletes. Like my

883
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 9: whole life, I've been able to do whatever I wanted to.

884
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 9: I want to do a backfoob, I can do it

885
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 9: if I wanted anything. And then you tear your ACL,

886
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 9: and any person tears the a CL knows your quad

887
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 9: doesn't fire. So I'm like getting ready for surgery and

888
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 9: they're like, oh, yeah, squeeze the quad. I'm squeezing it,

889
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 9: turning red, about to pass out, and my quad's not

890
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 9: firing at all. So I think, really, the first part

891
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 9: of like that whole surgery is really getting your mind

892
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 9: and your my mind and my quad personally back on track.

893
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 9: I wanted to break up with myself in the first

894
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 9: three moments, but we got the quad going and everything's good.

895
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 5: Now.

896
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 9: I have great people out lead Orthrow, Deshaun's actually out there.

897
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 9: We've been actually building our chemistry for about five months

898
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 9: and didn't even know it. So that's pretty cool. And uh,

899
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 9: we have great people out there. Doctor Latrosha's great. So

900
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 9: I think I'm in a good place. I should be

901
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 9: ready to go for the season, and that's what we're

902
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 9: working for.

903
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 3: Then it kind of renew you or man, I love

904
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: playing this game.

905
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 6: Heck yeah, man, I.

906
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 9: Think especially being an Indy for five years, I had

907
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 9: so many ups and downs, Like I played with Andrew.

908
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 9: Look that's how I know I'm getting old. And then

909
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 9: ever since then, you know, it was kind of up down,

910
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 9: Like you know, I played with Carson Wins, I played

911
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 9: with like seven different quarterbacks, Carson, Matt phill up to

912
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 9: name so Jacobe Brissett. So you know, sometimes through that

913
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 9: process you're like, dang, like what am I doing here?

914
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 4: Do?

915
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 6: I love it?

916
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 9: And I know one thing after this acl and watching

917
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 9: everybody else play, I know how much I love it.

918
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 9: I would do anything to go out there and run

919
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 9: and return a pun or catch a pass or so

920
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 9: that's I think. That's really Uh, there's things that happened

921
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 9: for a reason, and I think God slowed me down.

922
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 9: But also really I always knew I love football. But

923
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 9: I've been healthy my whole life. I've missed five games

924
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 9: in my entire life. I didn't miss my first game

925
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 9: until my fifth year in Denver. I'm sure a lot

926
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 9: of people saw that that concussion, and I didn't miss

927
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 9: a practicer game before then. So I've always been healthy.

928
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 9: So it was really hard just to not be healthy.

929
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: Yes, man, Yeah, you can't imagine it. And then you

930
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: come in here and and you look at what this

931
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: offense did towards the end of last season. But then

932
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: also the notion from Kevin Stefanski, like we got to

933
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 2: be better, we get be more diversified. They bring in Ken.

934
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: You obviously played for him in Buffalo. What elements of

935
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: the offense from Ken's pass do you think will fit

936
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: nicely with this personnel grouping.

937
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 9: I think Ken's first of all, a great play designer.

938
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 9: I think in the r PRIO game and the empties

939
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 9: and like drop back pass. I think that's where he's

940
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 9: gonna excel. He loved empties. We've seen Josh Allen have

941
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 9: a lot of success and empties and then rpo QB runs.

942
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 9: We have the quarterback to do kind of the same thing.

943
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 9: DeShawn obviously no Sololely. He can run great, He's a

944
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 9: He's a phenomenal athlete. So I played against for four

945
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 9: or five years in Houston, So I'm excited to see

946
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 9: him get back to that form because he was an

947
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 9: elite quarterback. Even after they let go a fuller and

948
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 9: de Hop he still through for four thousand yards. So

949
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 9: we got we got a guy here, and I'm excited

950
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 9: to be a part of a playoff team with a

951
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 9: great quarterback and the number one defense in the league.

952
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 6: So we can get some hunt returns here.

953
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You mentioned the punt returns. He got

954
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: a couple of punt return touchdowns in your career, a

955
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 3: couple of kick return touchdowns. That's something the Brown's really

956
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: been looking for since Josh Cripps has left, honestly trying

957
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 3: to find that return guy. You know, he obviously knows

958
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: you and obviously that's probably a big reason why this

959
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 3: all kind of came together. What do you love about

960
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 3: the return game and how can you help Well?

961
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 9: First off, I know for sure that I'm sure Bubba

962
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 9: probably talked to Ab and Kevin and he probably still

963
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 9: on the table for me. So first off, I think

964
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 9: Bubba and Kin for talking highly of me here. And

965
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 9: I know a lot of the schemes with Bubba I

966
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 9: had success there, so I think we have something going on.

967
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 9: I think we have some success here. Have to do

968
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 9: my part, read the ball, judge it, trust my teammates.

969
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 9: We have great special teams guys here. Shoot, I know

970
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 9: the special team is good. We fought you guys like

971
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 9: four years ago in twenty nineteen, so I know you.

972
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 9: And then the joint practice, I know it's a great scheme.

973
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 9: I know we have great players, and I know I

974
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 9: have to just go back there and do my job,

975
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 9: and I think it'll take off.

976
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: You are a part of maybe I think one of

977
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 3: the most if the NFL has scripted that play would

978
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 3: have happened your your kick return, the first play after

979
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 3: the scary incident with Tamar Hamlin. When you kind of

980
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: reflect back on that, was that one of just was

981
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: that a surreal moment, the emotions, I mean it was

982
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 3: watching it was crazy.

983
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 6: It was honestly one of the best days of my life.

984
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: Truthfully.

985
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 9: The first return, I kind of saw it. We played

986
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 9: them Thursday night, probably three or four weeks ago, when

987
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 9: we ran the same return and one of their backside

988
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 9: players tripped me up. But I saw I saw the

989
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 9: outside so the first player of the game, it kind

990
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 9: of looked the exact same and this time I bounced

991
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 9: it and there was nobody there, so really good. The

992
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 9: first one was crazy what I saw, but the second

993
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 9: one we drew up in the dirt like we we

994
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 9: kind of sold it off. The original middle return we

995
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 9: ran and we came back to the left, and I

996
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 9: haven't seen many returns in my life as a returner

997
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 9: just get drawn up and work.

998
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 6: So it was just one of those days where you just.

999
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 9: In football, in sports, so some days we're just on,

1000
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 9: Like someday Steph Curry just comes out and miss the shot.

1001
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 9: I just had a day like that, and I pray

1002
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 9: to have more like that. I had a day like

1003
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 9: Bubbas too, So hopefully I have another two return game

1004
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 9: and I'd love to, you know, start off the season right. Yeah,

1005
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 9: start of the season right, and just.

1006
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 4: Do it right.

1007
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 9: I feel like I should have been the Pro Bowl

1008
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 9: or All Pro, but I feel like I always just

1009
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 9: have good returns in like week seventeen.

1010
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 6: So do it early.

1011
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1012
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 9: I would love to get my knee right and get

1013
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 9: it going right away. I'm a respected returner and I

1014
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 9: know a lot of the punters, so I just got

1015
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 9: to go out there and do my job.

1016
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: Did you happen to see you mentioned your relationship with Bubba.

1017
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: Did you happen to see the Probably not, but the

1018
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: video when we clinched and coaches giving French.

1019
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 6: The hotel, I didn't see it. Please tell me.

1020
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: So he's it's my favorite.

1021
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: Stefanski is giving the you know, you know we did

1022
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: it in the in the in the locker room, made

1023
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and you don't notice it right away. We did,

1024
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: but I don't know the fans realize right away Bubba

1025
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: is standing next to him with a helmet on.

1026
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 6: That's Bubba though.

1027
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: That's exactly what everybody.

1028
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

1029
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 9: Like one thing I do like about here, like even Larry,

1030
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 9: our strength coach. There's a lot of former players here

1031
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 9: like you like it, Like I was just lifting with Larry.

1032
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 9: He was doing abs with me and lifting, so that's

1033
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 9: pretty cool. I think the thing about Bubba is he's

1034
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 9: very passionate. He's gonna get after. He's gonna coach you hard.

1035
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 9: But like one thing he's gonna do is in the

1036
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 9: film room, he's gonna show his own plays. Like in Indie,

1037
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 9: He's to show his plays, like when they used to

1038
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 9: have the wage. Like I've seen Bubba get knocked out,

1039
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 9: like he said, he's gotten knocked out and didn't even

1040
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 9: know where he was. So as that you can respect it.

1041
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 9: But yeah, I know Bubba. Even in Indye, Bubby used

1042
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 9: to run friends, had to practice every day. I think

1043
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 9: Bubba still wants to play it. I think Bubba probably

1044
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 9: could still suit up, but I'm sure he wants to.

1045
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: He definitely want he said. If he can go in

1046
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: a straight line, he's fine. But if he has a

1047
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 3: change direction, forget about it.

1048
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 6: Put him on your team. You don't have to do

1049
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 6: that much change the direction there, just run down there.

1050
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: So one of our our good friends on the program,

1051
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 3: we call him Will Scarlett, sent me an article that

1052
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: I read that early in your career you went and

1053
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: worked actually out of Bojangles because you wanted to own

1054
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: some Bojangles franchises. First of all, incredible story. I think

1055
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: that's so cool that you wanted to go experience it.

1056
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 3: So I guess we're in the future now. Has have

1057
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 3: you followed through on that?

1058
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 4: No?

1059
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 5: Not yet, not yet.

1060
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 9: I send some money and just waiting my time. First

1061
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 9: of all, I think that takes a lot of time.

1062
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 9: That probably right from here. I have some good friends.

1063
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 9: I know somebody who owns fifty of them. He's kind

1064
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 9: of been showing me the way.

1065
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 3: Okay, so I think, but it's still in the plans.

1066
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would like to.

1067
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 9: I like to own the business or some sort of restaurant,

1068
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 9: maybe it was Bojangles or something I would like to

1069
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 9: give or Chick fil A.

1070
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 6: I to get my foot in the door.

1071
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 9: But uh really got I'm trying to focus on football,

1072
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 9: but I'm not forgetting about life at the football, and

1073
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 9: that's what I'm trying to do.

1074
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: You had a nice weekend that wolf pecked it. Okay, Yeah,

1075
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. That was That's fun.

1076
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 9: Right As a in C State fan since I can remember,

1077
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 9: I don't think we've ever had a time where we'll

1078
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 9: have a time like that. We haven't won AC title

1079
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 9: since two since nineteen eighty seven, and we beat Duke

1080
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 9: and Carolina.

1081
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 6: In two days, So there's excuses.

1082
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 5: I was just talking.

1083
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 9: I've been talking on a bunch of cold cash and

1084
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 9: my friend I don't want to hear anything. We beat Duke,

1085
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 9: we beat Carolina, when AC title like that's that's remarkable. Honestly,

1086
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 9: I was super excited to be in C State fan.

1087
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was very very cool. And we we you

1088
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: we informed us before we started. We're gonna have a

1089
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: new listener. Uncle a J is locked in. Yeah, uncle

1090
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: a J one to three.

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Speaker 9: Uncle a Je, I'm gonna definitely talk. I'm gona definitely

1092
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 9: text him and let him know.

1093
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: We shout the downloads the Browns mobile app and he

1094
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 3: can listen at his at his leisure. We'll be live

1095
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: one to three every day. Yeah, yeah, money. I always

1096
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: like to ask people this question when they come to

1097
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: the team, because it's so exciting and and you know,

1098
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 3: we know who you can return kick, you know you

1099
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 3: can do out of the backfield. People know that what's

1100
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Speaker 3: something maybe that people don't know about Nahem. Heines that

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00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 3: you would want them to know when they watch you play,

1102
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: they see Hines on the back of your jersey. Something

1103
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: you want them to have maybe in the back of

1104
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: their mind.

1105
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 9: What is something? Shoot, honestly, I think off the field.

1106
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 9: I'm just a regular person, just like y'all. Like I

1107
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 9: got a twin sister. Her name is Naiya. She's the

1108
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 9: reason why I went in c State when I got drafted.

1109
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 9: She said, we got drafted the twins. Lepathy is reel.

1110
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 4: Uh.

1111
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 6: The next thing is ah.

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Speaker 9: I'm a twenty twenty four national spokesperson for the Muscularity Association.

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00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 6: For four years going on.

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00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 4: Now.

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00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 9: That's awesome supporting that and uh. Other than that, I

1116
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 9: love to play the drums and play the guitar.

1117
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 3: I love rap music and I love fall off the

1118
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 3: renaissance man.

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00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love.

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00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: Covering the whole spectrum. I like it.

1121
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Speaker 2: It is so cool to have you here, man. I

1122
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: can't wait to see you in our uniform this this

1123
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: this fall and get you healthy and see what's all capable.

1124
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: It's going to be fun.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 9: Thank you so much for your time. Thank you guys

1127
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 9: so much. And I'm happy to be at the dog Pound.

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00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 2: That's exactly right that joining us people got one of

1129
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: those in the dog would be proud. He's ready to go.

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00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: It's ready to go, man, all right? Second hour up next,

1131
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Rod Daily, eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

1132
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Balley bed Now

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Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

1134
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: Dumb as Billy Joelan Rod Stewart, don't you dare. It's

1135
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: the first time. It might be the only time.

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Speaker 3: It will be one night only.

1137
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 2: It's one night only here. We don't know if it

1138
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: will be the only time. It's they run it back.

1139
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: They might run back three years from now somewhere else.

1140
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 3: What does one night only mean?

1141
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: One night only at Cleveland Ron Stadium, months of time.

1142
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: It doesn't say that. It doesn't say it's Billy Joelan Rods.

1143
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: Presumptuous to us though, to say that they will never

1144
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: do this again anywhere in the world.

1145
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 3: This is what it's called.

1146
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's in the content. Don't take the chance,

1147
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: you guys can do it. Yeah there, don't take the chance.

1148
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: You think like part of the contract is you're doing

1149
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 2: this this once and that's it.

1150
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't take the chick can never do this again.

1151
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: Don't take the chance. They run it back.

1152
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: In fact, one night only, you can get the tickets. Uh,

1153
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: here's how you go to cleanland around seem dot com

1154
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: slash billion Rod twenty twenty.

1155
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: Four, billion Rod twenty twenty four.

1156
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 2: It's Billy Joel and it's Ron Stuart together for one

1157
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: night only, one night only. That's it. That'll do it.

1158
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: That's it.

1159
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: That'll do it.

1160
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: You're just gonna go in that one.

1161
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 4: That boy, that's good. That's pretty good.

1162
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: All right, you got a lot here, a lot here.

1163
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: The According to John Breach, I've had John on before,

1164
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: the chiefs might explore the option of leaving Kansas City

1165
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: of upcoming sales. Text vote doesn't go there way, No,

1166
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: they're not.

1167
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 4: Right. Same.

1168
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 3: That sounds like they're that's a threat to try to

1169
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 3: get the outcome that they desire. That that it's an

1170
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: EmPATH threat. You can call their bluff on that.

1171
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not relocating the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm sure

1172
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: somebody said that sometime about Art Modell, that you're not

1173
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: relocating the Cleveland Browns. And it happened. But because that happened,

1174
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: that won't happen. Right, there's no chance that that's not

1175
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 2: gonna happen that they're I mean, you saw Mahomes' house.

1176
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: He's not building that. You're not selling that. No, you

1177
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: build that to be there the rest of your career.

1178
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: That's operation. Their situation is unique in terms of where

1179
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 2: their stadiums are are they did they redo Kaufman or

1180
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: did they somebody? There was something with the Royals that

1181
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: got done.

1182
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 5: So the Royals right there? No I know, but like

1183
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 5: plans to build a new one.

1184
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: So they're going to build a new Oh, they want

1185
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: to go downtown.

1186
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 5: They're going downtown.

1187
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 2: It's oh, it's awesome. And they're right off the freeway.

1188
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: But neither one are near downtown.

1189
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: Well there's and there's.

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Speaker 3: You just that was awful.

1191
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: You know what did he do?

1192
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 4: Missed? Shocking?

1193
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

1194
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Speaker 2: Uh right, zero catches.

1195
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 5: No, no one? You played tonight or Wednesday? Wednesday?

1196
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: Do we need to talk to coach quarterback and see

1197
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 2: if we can get you some more target? Did we

1198
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 2: talk about some of the routes that we're gonna use

1199
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Speaker 2: to get open? Little drag route, love a drag route,

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Speaker 2: little dragon go. All right, so they're gonna so they

1201
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: want to do the baseball teams going downtown, and then

1202
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: what do you do with the Chiefs, right, that's what

1203
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: it comes to.

1204
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Speaker 5: Yeah, But I mean that's a great opportunity for the

1205
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 5: Chiefs if they're I mean, I'm assuming you're not gonna

1206
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 5: leave Kaufman Stadium up if you're gonna build a new one. No,

1207
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 5: So that's your chance to finally put some hotels and

1208
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 5: restaurants and bars, because all they want it is just

1209
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 5: one big parking.

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Speaker 4: Lot, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right off the freeway. Yeah, Like when I

1212
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: drove from Montana to Florida, you drive right by it,

1213
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 2: like ninety miles an hour. Yeah, right there. Yeah, I

1214
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 2: wonder what they want. Do they want a new stadium

1215
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: or do they want renovations to Arrowhead Aarad's old old

1216
00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: old Yeah, not great, no, and all of that. But

1217
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: like sure, I'm guessing if you're the Hunt family, and

1218
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: probably if you're Patrick Mahomes, you'd like a dome. I mean,

1219
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 2: what's domoybe? Little climate control.

1220
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 5: Everybody, especially since people had to get things amputated body

1221
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 5: parts after the playoff game. Oh that's right, kind of

1222
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 5: got hidden in the h all right.

1223
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 3: During a recent interview, Chiefs president Mark Donald was asked

1224
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 3: what the team's plan might be going forward. If the

1225
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 3: sales tax fails, he said a relocation would certainly be

1226
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 3: on the table. I think they would have to include

1227
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: the options would include leaving Kansas City. On the other hand,

1228
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 3: he did not did make it clear the Chiefs would

1229
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: like to stay in the city where they spent the

1230
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 3: past sixty one years. Our goal here is, our goal

1231
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: here is we want to stay here, and we were

1232
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: willing to accept a deal for the county to actually

1233
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: stay here.

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Speaker 8: So.

1235
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Speaker 3: They recently unveiled plans for an eight hundred million dollar

1236
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 3: renovation at Arrowhead Stadium. Build upgrade almost everything. Not only

1237
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 3: would parking and tail getting improved, but the team would

1238
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: also add new video boards and better luxury amenities. The

1239
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: team would also add a three hundred and sixty degree

1240
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: concourse au fans to finally navigate the entire stadium when

1241
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: sitting in the upper deck. The team is also planning

1242
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,320
Speaker 3: to add some new club areas in the end zone.

1243
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: The Chiefs are planning to for three hundred million of

1244
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: the renovation bill, but the rest would come from the

1245
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 3: extension of a three to eighth of a cent sales

1246
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 3: tax that would be voted on in Jackson County on

1247
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: April to second sales tax is already in placed through

1248
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 3: twenty thirty one. If voters improve the extension, it would

1249
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: stay in place till twenty sixty four. If it gets approved.

1250
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: The Chiefs have said they would sign a twenty five

1251
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: year lease at Arrowhead, which would include a team option

1252
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: for three to three five year extensions. Currently expires twenty

1253
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: thirty one, so we end up the extension gets vote down.

1254
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,720
Speaker 3: The Chiefs woni't be going anywhere for another seven years,

1255
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 3: but it would certainly create some drama in Kansas City.

1256
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 5: So it's like an arms race between the Royals and

1257
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 5: Chiefs who can get stuff upgraded.

1258
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 3: Clark Hunt saying, we would not be willing to sign

1259
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 3: at least for another twenty five years without the financing

1260
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 3: to properly renovate and reimagine the stadium. So the financing

1261
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: puzzle is very important to us to make sure we

1262
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: have enough funds to do everything we've outlined.

1263
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I can tell you, I mean, especially in

1264
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 5: the lower levels and confines of that stadium, you're falling

1265
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 5: over one another after a game trying to get around stuff.

1266
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: Okay, it's easy, it's already in place. It's an extension

1267
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: for the future. Yeah, and at that point three is

1268
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: of a sen is gonna be worth a lot less

1269
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: than it. I mean, it feels like a no brainer

1270
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 3: kansaity chiefs to just say, yeah, we're already doing it.

1271
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 3: Let's just keep it going.

1272
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going. Yeah, right, the royals are that's

1273
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: Walmart money, right, Pretty sure Glass, I'm pretty sure he's

1274
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: Walmart money.

1275
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.

1276
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 2: Griff. I don't know he's our Kansas Bureau chief. No, no, no,

1277
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: that I know, but I'm pretty sure he is. Also,

1278
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: it's a different family, there's Sam had a lot of

1279
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: relatives working through it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure doesn't. Doesn't

1280
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: Glass still own him? His named David Glass.

1281
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: John Sherman, Oh maybe he sold them. Since two thousand

1282
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: and nine, the team has been owned by majority owner

1283
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: John Sherman, amongst many other Kansas City business owners and entrepreneurs.

1284
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 3: So maybe that guy had it prior to that.

1285
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 4: That could be.

1286
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 5: I don't know, but a baseball team that's valued at

1287
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 5: one point two billion, placing them to twenty seven m so.

1288
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 2: I had this. So yeah, Glass was before that, he

1289
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: was the president and CEO of Walmart and he was

1290
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 2: the owner and chief executive of the Kansas City Chiefs

1291
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: got it or the Kansas Royal rather.

1292
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1293
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1294
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 5: Sherman is the founder and foreman, former chairman and chief

1295
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 5: executive officer of Energy LP Energy I N E R G. Y.

1296
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 2: So Glass had it, he agreed, he agreed to sell

1297
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: the team to Sherman, who was the Indians at the

1298
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 2: time vice chairman. And that was in twenty nineteen. So

1299
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: he sold the team in nineteen. So Glass was the

1300
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: guy who when they won the when they won the

1301
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: World Series, that was Glass and he had the Walmart money.

1302
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 2: So I didn't realize that he had.

1303
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: Moved up and moved himself divested.

1304
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually passed away in twenty twenty.

1305
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: Oh, there you go.

1306
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Speaker 2: There's a little history for your kids on all of that.

1307
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 5: Some Sherman founded Energy. It merged with Crestwood Holdings in

1308
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 5: twenty thirteen, reporting an enterprise value of eight billion. He

1309
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 5: divested control of the company in twenty fourteen, and then

1310
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 5: he got into sports with the minority share of the

1311
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 5: Indians in twenty sixteen became their vice chairman.

1312
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 2: I don't know how you own a baseball team like

1313
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: their situation out there. I don't know, I don't know

1314
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: how that is something that would be tenable. Like if

1315
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 2: you're not in an entertainment district or you're not downtown

1316
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: to get people to just go out eighty one times

1317
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: a year out middle to the hinterlands, it's just it's over. Yeah,

1318
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 2: people aren't doing that anymore, man, They're not. It's done.

1319
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 5: They're not doing it with stadiums town whose history?

1320
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: Would you rather have the Kansas City Royals in our lifetime?

1321
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 2: Two World Series championships but large swaths of total irrelevancy? Yes,

1322
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: large swaths of years of just not nothing, or Indians

1323
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 2: in the Mix, Indian slash Guardians, Indians in the Mix

1324
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: a lot, multiple World Series appearances, division titles. They've clearly

1325
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: been the better franchise during the majority of our lifetimes.

1326
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 2: But two World Series versus none. But you're getting you're

1327
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: getting the relevancy all the time with the With the Guardians,

1328
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 2: they had largely been relevant.

1329
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would rather have them win one.

1330
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 2: Win two. Well, they've won to world Yeah. Well, in

1331
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 2: the early eighties they would lose the Yankees all the

1332
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: time in the ale Pennant and then they broke through

1333
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: in one in eighty five.

1334
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, call.

1335
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and George Brett and all those cats. And that's

1336
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: the one where the call at first base. Like you

1337
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: ask people from Saint Louis about that, they'll punch you

1338
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 2: in the throat. Yes, not like they haven't won a

1339
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: not in Saint Louis. They've won plenty. And then they

1340
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: won it with those guys that were homegrown, with Greenky

1341
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: and all those guys that were the home homegrown and.

1342
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 5: Then they go back to back they went, they went, and.

1343
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 2: Then the next year they won it.

1344
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I.

1345
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 6: Should talk to you.

1346
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 5: Two guys in here, they care about baseball.

1347
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 2: I think we'd manage it. Okay. I don't think we

1348
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: were doing fine. I think we done it pretty good.

1349
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 2: Former Chiefs former Chargers wide receiver Mike Williams has a

1350
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: couple of visits lined up, including the Steelers and Jets.

1351
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 5: And Mike Williams last visit on that tour will be

1352
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 5: in the land of the Pukers.

1353
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: Well, they don't have Deonta anymore.

1354
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 3: We have Pickens and they have Austin. I mean he

1355
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: would sure great.

1356
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: Good?

1357
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 2: Why not just wonderful?

1358
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 3: Why is any meeting with any teams in the NFC.

1359
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: Because everybody in the NFC knows enough to try, so

1360
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: annoying Donovan Peoples. Joe's resigning with the Lions on a

1361
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: one year deal. There, goods for.

1362
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 3: Him, two million bucks, good for djod Love dpj.

1363
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 2: Odell Beckham Junior saying goodbye to Bowltimore gentlemen one year there,

1364
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: that was a profitable.

1365
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 5: Day saying goodbye. But no one signed him.

1366
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: Well, he just they obviously said not in our plans,

1367
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 2: because wasn't it a two year deal for him? There?

1368
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: No, it one, just one.

1369
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 5: For fifteen, one for big money for.

1370
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 2: Fifteen fifteen.

1371
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: Wild money. Yeah, God bless.

1372
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 2: He can end up back in LA with the Rams

1373
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 2: as well. So this, this was pretty easy to project.

1374
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: So Ohio State Pro Day is Wednesday down in Columbus. Yeah,

1375
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison is not doing anything, nothing, not running, not

1376
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 2: catching his attitude is my my resume, is my tape,

1377
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 2: and I did my I did the pro day last

1378
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: year with C. J. Stroud. You don't need to see

1379
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: me do it again. I acknowledge that. Well, I think

1380
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 2: he is a sure thing. It's odd for somebody to

1381
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: do all to skip all.

1382
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:40,959
Speaker 3: Of this, That's what I said.

1383
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know the reason for

1384
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: why he's doing all of it. I think he can

1385
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 2: afford to the.

1386
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 3: Problem because he's not trying to tell you why. So

1387
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: you're what is what is he hiding? What are we?

1388
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: Which makes you then think about things and you get

1389
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 3: to situations like.

1390
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: This, so then you have both. This happened today Daniel Jeremiah,

1391
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: Chris Simms had Marvin Harrison third.

1392
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,959
Speaker 5: Chris Simms. I'm looking at Chris sims top five wide

1393
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 5: receiver prospects. This came about an hour before our show.

1394
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 5: One Molik Neighbors two Brian Thomas Jr.

1395
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 2: Those are both, I mean neighbors. I knows LSU isn't

1396
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 2: the other kid LSU too.

1397
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 5: Number three is Marvin Harrison Jr. Ro Rod, and then

1398
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 5: five is Roman Wilson from Yes.

1399
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: So he's got two guys. He's got two guys from LSU.

1400
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 3: Jeremiah mentioned this to me at the combine Neighbors, Yeah, neighbors.

1401
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: So both Jeremiah and Brugler mentioned the possibility Molik Neighbors

1402
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 2: could be the first wide receiver off the board, not

1403
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:46,479
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior. Neighbors is lightning fast. That's the that's

1404
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 2: the deal there, I guess we'll see. I tend to

1405
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 2: think it'll end up going the way that it's been

1406
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: projected to go for over a year, and then he'll

1407
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: be the first receiver off. But despite that, I can

1408
00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 2: also acknowledge that it's odd to do nothing. And and

1409
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: then I don't know of anybody who's ever not done

1410
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: anything at any position, like just not work out at

1411
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: the combine, then not do your protein. I'm done, just

1412
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 2: saying I'm good, I'm training for next year. My tape's

1413
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 2: my tape. Yeah, it seems his dad is who his

1414
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 2: dad is, He's the Tape's incredible. This measurables are incredible.

1415
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 2: But it's an odd choice I think, to not do anything.

1416
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 4: Agreed.

1417
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 5: So Chris Simms says this about Brian Thomas, the guy

1418
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 5: he ranks number two out of LSU. Brian Thomas Junior

1419
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 5: runs by everybody love aw. He uses his size so

1420
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 5: well to box out and get to contested balls. Extremely

1421
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 5: twitchy for a guy his size, and after the catch

1422
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 5: he's angry looking to score every time he has the ball.

1423
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 5: Number two wide receiver this year.

1424
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: So what does he say about Marvin Harrison? What does

1425
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: his stand by right?

1426
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 4: Like?

1427
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 2: That's maybe Jane Daniels was overrated if he had the

1428
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: two best receivers in college football.

1429
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, perhaps he was.

1430
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 4: I think.

1431
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 3: Harrison, you just know.

1432
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: It feels like a layup right, like he doesn't have anything.

1433
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 5: So the podcast is coming out this afternoon, so I'm

1434
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 5: assuming they just put out a couple of blurbs.

1435
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 2: Well, by the way, the best way to get people

1436
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: to download your podcast is to say something like that.

1437
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 5: He does this every year, of course, were there's QB ranking.

1438
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does with the QB rankings, like, oh yeah,

1439
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: I got you know, I got Tom Brady twenty eight

1440
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: this year.

1441
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 5: Okay, So he says it's an awesome group, so much

1442
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 5: to like with neighbors Thomas and Harrison. I just think

1443
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 5: the LSU guys are able to separate more and run

1444
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 5: by you better than Harrison.

1445
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 3: And that's why if you're Marvin Harrison, that's why you

1446
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 3: run a forty. Yeah, so you say I can run

1447
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 3: by people too, Here's a four, three nine, And just

1448
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: like that helped. If I'm not mistaken, didn't it help Elave?

1449
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 3: What he actually didn't? He run a really fast time.

1450
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 2: He did, yeah, but he still ended up falling a

1451
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 2: little bit. Is the middle of the first round. Yeah,

1452
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: garrettils Garret Wilson went before.

1453
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1454
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Marvin's the most sure of all of

1455
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 2: them of that group, and they've had good ones.

1456
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 3: How would you have compared him to Garrett Wilson.

1457
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: They're totally different. Wilson is more twitchy and he's more

1458
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 2: make you missy, whereas Marvin's Marvin's a big dude. He's

1459
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: big frame, and I think Marvin's ability they both are

1460
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 2: similar in their ability to make like the circus catch,

1461
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: but Marvin's his catch radius and his size I would

1462
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 2: think would be quite a bit bigger.

1463
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 5: Marvin is six four five.

1464
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a load.

1465
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,919
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, He's more like that type of a guy.

1466
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 2: So I mean he was dominant.

1467
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, So of course, I don't know.

1468
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: We'll see where all of this goes, all right, we

1469
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 2: will get you update on where we are. I was

1470
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 2: curious about. We will kind of go through like the

1471
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: kind of the fifty three and and it kind of

1472
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: take a look about where we are with all of

1473
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 2: the stuff that has happened. We will do that coming

1474
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,000
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1484
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Speaker 4: Did he just leave?

1485
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 8: No?

1486
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 2: I just left right, I got I have something for

1487
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: him and I want to I want to get his

1488
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: his view on before we do that. Though, where are

1489
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: we now? Are you okay? I think you're on For

1490
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 2: whatever reason.

1491
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 3: The left ear just working at the end of the

1492
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: last segment like something popped and then this one's not working.

1493
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 4: But this one's working. So it's fun.

1494
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah right song as I got one and as long

1495
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: as you it's all you need, it's all you need.

1496
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 2: Where are we roster wise? Now? As we uh? As

1497
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: we continue with free we have there's nothing else in

1498
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: free agency. I mean you can do if there's stuff

1499
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: that's out there that falls in your left we could

1500
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 2: do kick you kick the doors on things. But we

1501
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 2: I think in terms of I think I asked you

1502
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: last week, how close to this plan is what Andrew

1503
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,959
Speaker 2: Berry wanted done? Check check check.

1504
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1505
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I would say right now, quarterbacks three Watson, Winston,

1506
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: dtr and then Huntley obviously has a chance to compete

1507
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 3: or maybe dtrs. We'll see running backs for Nick Chubb,

1508
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 3: Pierre Strong, drome for niem Naheim Hines, Receivers six Cooper,

1509
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: Judy Moore, Tillman Bell, and then I think plus one,

1510
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 3: so that could be draft, that could be a free

1511
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: agent a burner. To me, it feels like that's a

1512
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: speed guy. Tight ends three Najoku, Aikens and Ginovanni Ricci

1513
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 3: or is that your Mitchell Payden tackles four, Will's Conklin,

1514
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,360
Speaker 3: Dwan Jones. And then I think there'll be a competition

1515
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 3: between James Hudson and Hakeemadenajy guards three, Buttonio Teller, Michael Dunn,

1516
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: centers to Posik, Nick Harris. That's twenty five on offense.

1517
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: Defense five defensive ends Garrett Smith, Alex Wright, Obo and

1518
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 3: Isaiah Maguire tackles four. So you've got Dalvin, You've got

1519
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 3: Jefferson Quentin Jefferson, right, Is that right? Yeah, Quinn Jefferson,

1520
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: Shelby Harris, Maurice ar saiyaki Ika. So there's probably two

1521
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 3: for three for two spots with Shelby, Mohurst and siaki Ika.

1522
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:52,000
Speaker 3: Maybe on the initial fifty three linebackers, six you got

1523
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 3: Jok Jordan Hicks, Tony Fields, Devin Bush, Mamoud Diabatti, and

1524
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: then maybe you bring back a Matthew Adams, but that

1525
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: six linebacker is not clear yet. Corners you'd have five

1526
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: right now. You have Denzel Ward, Greg Newsom, m j Emerson,

1527
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 3: Cam Mitchell, and then Brown, Tony Brown, who's the special

1528
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: teams guy, the Mike Ford of this year. And then

1529
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 3: safeties he got five. You got one Thornhill, Ronnie Hickman,

1530
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 3: you got Grant Delpit, Rodney McCloud at least it's been reported,

1531
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 3: is on his way back, and d Anthony Bell. Then

1532
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 3: you've got your punter, kicker, and long snapper. I mean,

1533
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 3: you have fifty three before you before you draft, and

1534
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 3: so there's going to be obviously some competition coming out

1535
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: of the draft, I would imagine, And I still think

1536
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 3: that's I still think that's an offensive tackle defensive tackle,

1537
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 3: wide receiver, running back, tight end. I think there's definitely

1538
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 3: some there's spots where you can compete another corner, so

1539
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, but you're you're.

1540
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 2: Define in a position though, And this is where you

1541
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: felt pretty confident that av would want to be. And

1542
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:54,439
Speaker 2: if every team should aspire to this, if they can,

1543
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: and that is that you go to the draft without

1544
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: saying we have to draft this position. You can just

1545
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: be loyal to your board. Somebody drops that's just too

1546
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 2: damn good to pass up, you pounce, just take them. Yep,

1547
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 2: And that's the position you're in here. With this roster,

1548
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: it's it's a really nice roster. It's really competitive roster. Man,

1549
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:11,920
Speaker 2: he minds was impressive.

1550
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 3: He really was, was really impressive. When I said that,

1551
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 3: Jordan Hicks last a really impressive guy. Yeah.

1552
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So they're bringing in some good citizens as well,

1553
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 2: and it's yeah, it's it's a roster. But the crazy

1554
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 2: thing about it is is we talked about in the

1555
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: first segment with the justin fields move and if Mike

1556
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: Williams ends up there, like everybody in the division is

1557
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: working under the same auspice, they're all all in.

1558
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bengals said, oh, the back of our end

1559
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 3: of our defense wasn't good. So now we bring Von

1560
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: Bell back and we get Geno Stone. The Steelers get

1561
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 3: Russ and Justin Fields, the Patrick Queen too, and Patrick

1562
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 3: and Patrick Queen. The Ravens are the one team outside

1563
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 3: of adding Derrick Henry that doesn't feel like overall they've enhanced.

1564
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 3: They brought in Derrick Henry.

1565
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 2: They were the one that had to get rid of

1566
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 2: stuff though.

1567
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 3: But they lost They've already lost Stone, They lost their

1568
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 3: whole defensive staff other than the linebacker coach who's now

1569
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator. Yeah, they lost Geno Stone, they lost

1570
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 3: Patrick Queen so far, clown, he's not back, Kylvin. No,

1571
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 3: he's not back at least not that I've seen. So

1572
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 3: they've had more exodus than Their only real addition has

1573
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: been has been Derrick Henry, which is a big one.

1574
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 2: It's significant, but it's but you're right, yeah, they they

1575
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: had such they were in such when we did, like

1576
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: their free agency preview with we had the expert on

1577
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 2: they were in such cap purgatory.

1578
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 3: Yes that there was.

1579
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: It surely was no way out of it. Like they

1580
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 2: had to. They were going to lose a bunch of

1581
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 2: talented players, and they did, I guess from their perspective though,

1582
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 2: Like I assume that they lose Todd Monkin this year

1583
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 2: and they didn't.

1584
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:43,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously getting Kirk Cousins makes it for Atlanta,

1585
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 3: but boy, that would have been a nice one with

1586
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 3: Monkin and and justin Fields there at least I think

1587
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 3: so well.

1588
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 2: You wouldn't have give them a hundred million either. No,

1589
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: if you're Atlanta, you could have done Monken and you

1590
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: could have done Fields for a six Yeah. Yeah, so yeah,

1591
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 2: I mean I think that's that's the way that that goes.

1592
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: But this is this is so now just from a calendar.

1593
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna get all the pro days that will happening.

1594
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna get the silly season that happens, and

1595
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 2: then you'll have the draft. And that's where we are

1596
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 2: in the calendar here, and then next thing you know,

1597
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 2: it will be Mini camp and and away we go.

1598
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: We'll take a look at the rest of the weekend

1599
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 2: in sports. Coming up next a little March Madness Official

1600
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: coaching hire down ot Ohio State as well. You listen

1601
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 2: to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1602
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bawley bed Now

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01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio.

1604
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 2: On eight to fifty ESP and Cleveland. Oh now, Gibb's

1605
01:09:58,640 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 2: back give back.

1606
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:00,320
Speaker 6: Hi.

1607
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 2: You see Dan Brot retiring at Ducaine.

1608
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 5: I did, I did after he clinched. Yeah.

1609
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: So first time Ducane's ever made the NCAA tournament, right

1610
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 2: or first time since the seventies or something, nineteen seventy seven. Wow,

1611
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 2: So they make the tournament. They end up winning the upset.

1612
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 2: They were who was the one seed in that? You know? Richmond?

1613
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 7: Okay, Richmond Loyola were the top two seeds.

1614
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, the Spider. Yeah, great, so they Ducaine gets

1615
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 2: in and then Dan brought this is it a good

1616
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: way to go out?

1617
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 5: Absolutely taking a couple of teams now of the dance.

1618
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: So he had Lebron the first two years he was

1619
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 2: at Saint Vincent Saint Mary because then Drew had him,

1620
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 2: Drew Joyce had is that how it is? Okay? So

1621
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: first two and then he goes to Akron and is

1622
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: great there and then goes to Ducane. So there you go,

1623
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 2: and he's uh, he's stepping down.

1624
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:52,160
Speaker 4: As well.

1625
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: Real quick on the Justin fields. This came across my

1626
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 3: I think Ian Rappaport said, and I don't know if

1627
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: we had said this. We knew that team. Six teams

1628
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: were interested, but it posedly Fields rejected four of the

1629
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 3: trade destinations before the deal with the Steelers, and so

1630
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 3: that's where he that was where he wanted to go.

1631
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 3: So he rejected. Not that feel like he didn't have

1632
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 3: a no trade clause, but no, they.

1633
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 2: Just I think they wanted to do right by him.

1634
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1635
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: I wonder how that's playing in Chicago, Like how because

1636
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,879
Speaker 2: he was absurdly popular with the fan base there. Yeah,

1637
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 2: and with that, like the players on that team loved him. Yeah,

1638
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 2: So I just wonder like how that's.

1639
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 4: Is.

1640
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: Do you think the reality of what they got back

1641
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: for him is like a reality check for the fan

1642
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: base of what he actually was or the way he's

1643
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: perceived would have to be some.

1644
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 3: You would think, So I do not. I think one

1645
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,599
Speaker 3: of those things when it's like they're gonna have all

1646
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 3: the Bears fans are going to get to watch the draft,

1647
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 3: and you're gonna hear Jeremiah and all these guys gush

1648
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 3: over Caleb Williams and then you're gonna say, Okay, all right, Yeah.

1649
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be a pretty damn good team.

1650
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 3: We've got DJ Moore, We've got Keenan Allen, You've got

1651
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift, Yeah, got Cole Comett. That's a fun team.

1652
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 2: It's a very fun team. Yeah. Yeah. And if Williams

1653
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 2: is special, then it's then you're set up like the

1654
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 2: way they've never been.

1655
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 3: They've never been set up correct, correct?

1656
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 5: So Keith dan brot Uh head coach at or Saman's

1657
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:17,759
Speaker 5: Saint Mary ninety eight through two thousand and one, Akron

1658
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 5: assistant one to four head coach Achron four to twenty

1659
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 5: seventeen and Ducane twenty seventeen to present. Career record in

1660
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 5: college five sixteen and three oh one.

1661
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 2: Pretty good, pretty good.

1662
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 5: Three back championships and won a ten championship.

1663
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there you go, There you go. So the

1664
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: only year Lebron didn't win it was his junior year

1665
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: in high school, that's the case. And they got upset

1666
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: by that team out of the Dayton area.

1667
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, they won three out of the four.

1668
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 2: Was it the third one, chev Yeah, third year, Yeah.

1669
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 10: Because I watched that more than the game documentary, and

1670
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 10: that was a huge thing about how they were going

1671
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 10: for redemption in his fourth year, and Joyce was being

1672
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 10: questioned whether he could coach or not since they lost after.

1673
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: Oh his first year they lost.

1674
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, no pressure, Yeah, I did not watch the Little

1675
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 5: Lebron James documentary at all.

1676
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 2: Well no, no, yeah, yeah, all right, so he won

1677
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: three out of four and Dan Brett was there for

1678
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 2: the first two, and then Drew won their senior year.

1679
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,479
Speaker 2: You imagine an aggrieved high school Lebron James. Well then

1680
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 2: his senior year you're dealing with all the with the

1681
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: hummer and all that business. Was he eligible was he not?

1682
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: I mean that was a I was obviously not here

1683
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: at that time, but that was an absolute circus.

1684
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 7: So also about Ducane, Drew Joyce the third Yeah, their

1685
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 7: associate head coach. He's probably the guy next in line

1686
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 7: to take over when Dan Bron retires. Yeah, he's got

1687
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 7: a So there's just Drew Joyce in them all over this.

1688
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 2: His son is Beamsy's age, so they are there in

1689
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 2: the same au operation, Drew Joyce's son, and I think

1690
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:59,759
Speaker 2: Drew Joyce is coaching that squad. So yeah, that's cool, very.

1691
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 5: Cool, by the way. Chris Simms on Marvin Harrison, all right,

1692
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 5: Harrison Junior has so much good in his game. He's

1693
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 5: NFL ready, will be a star, catches the ball and

1694
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 5: gets up the field right away at an elite level.

1695
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 5: Would have been number one last year. Just don't think

1696
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 5: he's as explosive or gets separation in the same way

1697
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 5: Neighbors and Thomas do.

1698
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so then I don't understand that they're faster.

1699
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 5: It would appear that one.

1700
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 3: So I'm looking at a mock draft right now Forris Sims,

1701
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 3: a big Anthony Schwartz guy from Rodo World Pro Football teak.

1702
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 3: All of that, They've got Marvin Harrison going fourth overall,

1703
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 3: Neighbors going sixth to the Giants, and Rome Adunzie going

1704
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 3: ninth to join Caleb Williams in.

1705
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: So that's the nuts scenario.

1706
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: So they get they would have him and DJ Moore

1707
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 3: and Keenan Allen.

1708
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be I mean ready made. I'm not

1709
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:57,920
Speaker 2: sure a quarterback. The only thing is you got the

1710
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,080
Speaker 2: bozo coach. That's the only thing. Like they had a

1711
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: chance to reset everything. Yeah, and like they could have

1712
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 2: gone I mean, heck, they could have hired Lincoln Riley,

1713
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 2: not to say, who'd have been ready to coach in

1714
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: the league, but like could hire him to call to

1715
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 2: just get a good defensive guy to handle that side

1716
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 2: of it. May make Lincoln Riley the head coach and

1717
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 2: he can call the plays. It's wild to me.

1718
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 3: It is a very very unique Yeah. They were a

1719
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 3: ton of talent on the offensive side.

1720
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, they're good. They're gonna be They're gonna be

1721
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 2: get That division is gonna be really fun, really fun.

1722
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 3: The lines are fun. The Packers are gonna be fun.

1723
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: He can rebound. That was tough the way that ended for.

1724
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 3: Who love against the Niners. Yeah, yeah, but I mean

1725
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 3: I think he's all right.

1726
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:43,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked him. He was good.

1727
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 3: This was his first time kind of in that kind

1728
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 3: of a mix while the Niners were a pretty established

1729
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: team and yeah they got listen, they did it to

1730
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 3: the Lions too. Yeah, Vikes are going to be feels

1731
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 3: like they're and yeah, rebuild mode there.

1732
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: Watch out for that justin Jefferson situation. That'll be in

1733
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: interesting if he wants to be a part of that,

1734
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: because Quazy's going for he's already I'm sure they're trying

1735
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: to find a way to get into the J. J.

1736
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: McCarthy world. He wants to get that fourth quarterback, but you're.

1737
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 3: Gonna have to go all the way to feels like,

1738
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 3: I don't know is JJ or five to get there?

1739
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 3: Is he that guy?

1740
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Hard to say, hard to say

1741
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: at this I mean, think of the guesswork of this position. Yeah,

1742
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 2: didn't Max Jones win Rookie of the Year. Did he

1743
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 2: win Rookie of the Year.

1744
01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 3: He was a p he was one hundred percent a

1745
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 3: Pro Bowl I think it was Chase that year, but

1746
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,840
Speaker 3: he was. He was a Pro Bowler his rookie year

1747
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 3: and they went to the playoffs.

1748
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at Brenda, feels like it would be Chase.

1749
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 7: I think that was like the debate was Chase was

1750
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,879
Speaker 7: really good? But do you give it to the quarterback?

1751
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 3: So he just made the Pro Bowl that year, was

1752
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 3: not the Rookie of the Year. His stats his rookie

1753
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 3: year sixty eight percent completions, thirty eight hundred yards, twenty

1754
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 3: two touchdowns, thirteen picks, quarterback raven ninety two point five.

1755
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 3: He was second in the Rookie of the Year behind

1756
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 3: Jamar Chase. His gu PC has gone down every year,

1757
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 3: his yards have gone down every year, his touchdowns have

1758
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 3: gone down every year, and his touched on interception ratio

1759
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 3: has gotten worse every year, and his yards perttempt has

1760
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 3: gone down every year. His air yards perttempt has gone down.

1761
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 3: Every year's yard person has gone down. Every year's yards

1762
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: per game has gone down, every year's rating has gone

1763
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 3: down every year.

1764
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 4: His GiB yard's gone down every year.

1765
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: So is that do you think the stability around him

1766
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 2: when McDaniels was there place, what big a role in that?

1767
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: Or was there some hitch in his giddy up? And

1768
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 2: they also who are the weapons?

1769
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 3: We have done?

1770
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 2: But they never the whole run, he didn't have weapons.

1771
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 3: They like, even this last year they swap out Jacoby

1772
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: Myers for Juju Smith Schuster on this basically the same contract.

1773
01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 3: And what did Juju smith Shuster do?

1774
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 6: Nothing?

1775
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: Well, they had well, he fell off a cliff the

1776
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 2: So McDaniel's only there his rookie year because then it

1777
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: was the patrician nonsense last year two years ago. Yeah, yeah,

1778
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 2: so he had three coordinators mac Jones did. And I'm

1779
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 2: not a mac Jones guy. No, I'm just saying like that.

1780
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 2: It's so hard at that position to try to say

1781
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 2: this guy is gonna hit.

1782
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: Like, here's the thing. Didn't they give up a six

1783
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: round pick for Mac Jones Jacksonville did? Yeah, right, I

1784
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: just don't understand. I'm having a real hard time with

1785
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 3: this one. This was one like justin fields everything that

1786
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: I just said, they got worse every year, got better

1787
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 3: every year.

1788
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 2: Correct.

1789
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's a dynamic runner, right.

1790
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 2: Thousand Yeard Russia. I don't know. It's strange. A couple

1791
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 2: other things around the sports world. The Buckeyes made it

1792
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 2: official Jake Diebler will be the full time head coach

1793
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 2: down in Columbus. So that got done press conference today

1794
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 2: at one o'clock down there.

1795
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 3: It feels underwhelming to me. Just to me, I would

1796
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 3: have expected it. It's fair a bigger name.

1797
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of factors that led to it.

1798
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 2: Number One, the team performed very well when he was

1799
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 2: a coach. It's a very short stint. They had a

1800
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 2: victure of a number one perdue among others during that

1801
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 2: stretch when he was the head coach. But I think

1802
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: a couple other things. One, I'm not sure what the

1803
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 2: other viable options were out there. Guys I mentioned on

1804
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 2: the show here were Sean Miller. My sense was is

1805
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 2: that there was a pushback Miller because of what happened

1806
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 2: at Arizona.

1807
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 3: That's all legal now.

1808
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 2: It is all legal now, but there was a little

1809
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 2: bit of a pushback there. I also don't know what

1810
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 2: it would have taken to get Sean Miller financially, Like

1811
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: if they after all they've spent on football, would they

1812
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: want to do all of that again. So I think

1813
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 2: that's part of it. The other guy I mentioned was

1814
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 2: Dusty May at FAU. His team is the eight seed

1815
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: right now. They were in the Final four a year ago.

1816
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 2: Maybe that's the way that that happened. And then the

1817
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,839
Speaker 2: other factor of this is Jakeson Ohioan his family legendary

1818
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 2: Ohio family, and he is really well received by the

1819
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 2: high school coaches and the AAU coaches in Ohio. And

1820
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: you are headed for in the next couple of years

1821
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: historic high school basketball talent coming out of this state.

1822
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 2: So the Darren Peterson kid who was at CBCA out

1823
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 2: of Akron, he's now down at Huntington Prep in West Virginia.

1824
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 2: He's the best high school basketball player I've ever seen

1825
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: play in person. Now, I didn't see Lebron playing person,

1826
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: but he's better than anybody else I've ever seen. I've

1827
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 2: talked to other people who evaluate and they they feel

1828
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: that way that he's the best high school player in

1829
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: the state of Ohio since Lebron James. Wow, he's unbelievable.

1830
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 2: So you got him Sonny's kid at Garfield Heights, they lost,

1831
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 2: Toledo beat him at the buzzer.

1832
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 5: My buddy Anthony Say's team.

1833
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 2: Anthony coaches Whittmer. Yeah, okay, so Witmer beats him at

1834
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: the buzzer. But Sonny's kid is a stud. Marcus. I

1835
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: think you listen to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN.

1836
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed

1837
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty esp and Cleveland.

1838
01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 2: All right, so we we were Gibby, you were telling

1839
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:05,040
Speaker 2: the Freeman kids story. So not only the kid at Akron.

1840
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 2: So he's in his fifth year, so this was his

1841
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 2: if he was if he was gonna go, it would

1842
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: have had to been this year. Yeah, and they end

1843
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 2: up averaging eighteen and a half a game every team.

1844
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 5: He had over twenty double doubles if I'm correct this year.

1845
01:21:17,400 --> 01:21:18,200
Speaker 2: He's a Cleveland kid.

1846
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 3: Huh.

1847
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1848
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 5: I think his mom is a cop. That's awesome, But

1849
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,120
Speaker 5: he worked his way up, but he had a chance

1850
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 5: to go to any one of the big ten programs

1851
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 5: anywhere in the country people because of this whole transfer portal. Yeah,

1852
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:37,879
Speaker 5: just said, like none of you wanted me, Like Akron

1853
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 5: took a shot on me, gave me a walk on spot.

1854
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 5: I worked my way up, I want to I want

1855
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 5: to win here and he did so pretty awesome.

1856
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Marshaun agrees with me, He says, said, but one

1857
01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 2: lie about Darren Peterson, the best in the state and

1858
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,639
Speaker 2: the best since Lebron. I'd have to add Terry Rogier

1859
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: as well.

1860
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 3: Oh scary Terry.

1861
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Now he's that kid's unbelievable.

1862
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: Where's he going?

1863
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 2: Whatever he wants, but he's he's got He's going into

1864
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 2: his senior year, so he's gonna he was, well, that

1865
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 2: was the other thing he was going to take a visit.

1866
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 2: His first visit was going to be Ohio State when

1867
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: Holton was there, and then that went away when they

1868
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 2: fired Holt. But now that Deebler's there, they're hopeful that

1869
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 2: he can be the first first visit as well. But

1870
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: he is, He's he was one of the first high

1871
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 2: school basketball players to get a shoe deal. So he

1872
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,920
Speaker 2: has like a seven figure deal with Adidas. And that's

1873
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: why he left CBCA to go to Huntington Prep. Because

1874
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: in Ohio you can't make NL. Ohio high school athletes

1875
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: can't make an IL.

1876
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 3: Why I have no idea.

1877
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: Late with the times, man, Yeah, it's hard to argue.

1878
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: Like when you when people say, well, they shouldn't make

1879
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 2: anything their kids or whatever. I'm like, you are aware

1880
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 2: that there are kids on YouTube who are killing it,

1881
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 2: making millions, playing video games and screwing around. Which, yeah,

1882
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: and now that these kids can't because their skill is

1883
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 2: one that's controlled versus one that I don't understand. It

1884
01:22:57,560 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: just makes no sense. Once that's out there, and you

1885
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 2: can make whatever your whatever, your name image and likeness

1886
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,799
Speaker 2: allows for you to be made, why couldn't you make it? Yeah,

1887
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: without wrecking eligibility. Amateurism's dead, man, it's over.

1888
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 3: It's over at every level.

1889
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 2: And I'm talking to you. Go to third grade travel

1890
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: hoops man. Amatrism's done. It's done. Absolutely, it's over. Forget

1891
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 2: it and that's okay.

1892
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 3: Moved on, Yeah, it's okay, just accepting it and moving on, agreed.

1893
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and make the best out of what

1894
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 2: is there?

1895
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 4: How coo?

1896
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 2: Did you guys watch the select the bracket reveal? I

1897
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 2: know who did? Did you watch it at all?

1898
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 3: I didn't watch like.

1899
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: For like Selection Sunday, Like I just want.

1900
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,280
Speaker 3: To see where Arizona went and they're two in the West.

1901
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,400
Speaker 2: Two in the West. Yeah give it? Did you watch live?

1902
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 5: I did?

1903
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 2: Were you Saint Patty?

1904
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,640
Speaker 5: And I was Saint pattying and watching there you go?

1905
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1906
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, two for one.

1907
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: It was one of my favorite things as a kid,

1908
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: saying the brackets popping out and going like, all right,

1909
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: where are we? Who's what are my matches? Yes? Yeah,

1910
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 2: and it's still I you didn love that? I do.

1911
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: And I last couple of weeks I've watched more college basketball,

1912
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 2: probably because Peyton. I went down to the Kentucky game

1913
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 2: and so that got me kind of fired up a

1914
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: little bit to watch it. So I watched quite a

1915
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: bit of the championship week stuff. And I'll be locked

1916
01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 2: in this week. I mean we'll be on flights, but

1917
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 2: be locked in the best I can. But the I

1918
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 2: do find the magic of player name of a team,

1919
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 2: another name of a team, Matt playing it out like it.

1920
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 2: There's something cool to that well.

1921
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 5: And I like this tweet, and I retweeted it last

1922
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 5: night and it's gotten actually a lot of traction. Richard

1923
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 5: Ditsch Media, yeah, media writer, this will seem fourign to

1924
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 5: twenty somethings. But once upon a time, one of the

1925
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 5: greatest things ever was buying the USA Today on the

1926
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 5: Monday after the Brackets came out to get all capsules

1927
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 5: on every team. One of the great newspaper editions ever.

1928
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 2: No, that was I remember that vividly. Yes, we would

1929
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: get the high school news, the high school library would

1930
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 2: get the newspapers and they'd put them on those sticks.

1931
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 2: You remember those sticks you'd get and they would put

1932
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: them on there, and I would scour over that like

1933
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 2: the Yeah, that's how you made it because you weren't.

1934
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean, you watched the championship week, but that was

1935
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: that was kind of it. No, it's it's amazing, and

1936
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: it's it's I hope they don't screw it up by

1937
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of the Power five coaches complain

1938
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 2: about teams not in do there's sixty eight teams in.

1939
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. Chill out the first four is

1940
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: that's what do you think about the first time I

1941
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 3: think it's stupid, it's sixty.

1942
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 2: Well, here's the deal, it's really they do it. Dayton

1943
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 2: does a really good job. So I've been over there.

1944
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 2: I've covered that thing. Montana State's actually playing in it

1945
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: this year. They play Grambling, ye, but the don't. It's

1946
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 2: not the NCAA tournament. The experience of being one of

1947
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: those teams that's playing in Dayton is not the same

1948
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 2: as the experience of a team going to Pittsburgh to

1949
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: play in the round one of the regionals. So all

1950
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,559
Speaker 2: of those games are played in Dayton. Yeah, all of

1951
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 2: those playing first four, the first four all played in Dayton.

1952
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 2: So the other thing that's stupid is is they go

1953
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: two six teams played, the sixteen should be in. So

1954
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: if you're gonna have teams play in, have two tens play,

1955
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 2: two tens plays, two elevens play, two eleven's play, Like,

1956
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 2: don't make two sixteens play.

1957
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Speaker 5: They earned the right.

1958
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: They don't want a tournament, Like, get put those guys in.

1959
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 5: If you won your tournament, you shouldn't have to be

1960
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 5: in a playing game.

1961
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 2: Because it's not teams on the bubble playing their way in.

1962
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: And that's what it should be. Yeah, should be teams

1963
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: sixty what is it sixty through sixty eight, those teams

1964
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: should play each other to be the final sixty four.

1965
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 2: They'll take Grambling, who's never played n sibility tournament in

1966
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: their history. Now they got to beat Montana State, who's

1967
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 2: played in the last two tournaments out of the Big

1968
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 2: Sky Conference. They're playing hot. They're gonna play them in

1969
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 2: Dayton for the right to be the one to be

1970
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 2: to go play a one seed.

1971
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 3: That's really if you win your tournament, you're in the

1972
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 3: Big Dance. This is not the Big Dance. First four,

1973
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,520
Speaker 3: this is don't act like it is. It's the precursor.

1974
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 2: No, so they they should have done it the other way.

1975
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 2: But the Power five, well, now Power four conferences they

1976
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 2: don't want to deal with that because they want more

1977
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 2: of their people in.

1978
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I like the matchups. You have what is it,

1979
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Speaker 3: Virginia Colorado State and then Jenny Colorado State, it's Boise Colorado.

1980
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Speaker 3: Yeah those good.

1981
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Speaker 2: So take those and then take the four teams who

1982
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 2: missed and even van and State, Oregon States and Auto two.

1983
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 2: So Oregon won their leaguees New Mexico, New Mexico not the.

1984
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 11: Elevens nine, probably the Northwestern because of the Northwestern the

1985
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 11: nines are Northwestern Michigan State, TCU in Texas, A and M.

1986
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Speaker 7: Who are the tens.

1987
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Speaker 3: Then the tens that are playing, You've got Well Boise, Colorado, Virginia,

1988
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 3: Colorado State, and the other ones you have you have Nevada.

1989
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:41,479
Speaker 7: So they should play in Drake and Drake Drake won

1990
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 7: their league. It's weird with all the bid Steelers this year.

1991
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Speaker 7: It's hard to do the play in Yeah.

1992
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Speaker 3: Now I think, yeah, I think if you win your conference,

1993
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 3: serment you do, you're in the sixty four.

1994
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Speaker 2: You're in.

1995
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 3: It's got to be look at how they this is

1996
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 3: what a bracket looks like. This is the bracket. This

1997
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 3: is the first four you deserve to be. This is

1998
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 3: if you win.

1999
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Speaker 2: Your example I just gave you with grambling. Is why

2000
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: it sucks, because they they will. It is entirely different

2001
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: to fly to Dayton today because they found out last night.

2002
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 2: They hop on a plane, they fly to Dayton today.

2003
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,200
Speaker 2: They play tomorrow night or Wednesday night. One of the two.

2004
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 2: You're gonna play and then if you're done, if they've done,

2005
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,360
Speaker 2: they're out. And that's not an NCAA tournament experience.

2006
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Speaker 3: Luckily, the job if they win, they go to Indian Apple.

2007
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 5: But even if you will, but it's not an NCAA

2008
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:31,240
Speaker 5: tournament experience because you got to get on a plane, right, No, right,

2009
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 5: you gotta jet to wherever you play.

2010
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: They'll drive over to Indy. But yeah, no, they're not

2011
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 2: getting like the pomp and circumstance that comes with the tournament.

2012
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Speaker 3: Outrageous sucks. They don't even have a chance to be

2013
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Speaker 3: in the one shining.

2014
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Speaker 2: Moment Montash No, definitely not that. No, it stinks. Yeah,

2015
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Speaker 2: they do that part wrong, among many other things. All right,

2016
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Speaker 2: I think we've done it. We have The next level

2017
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