Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 1: the NFL this weekend? Welcome in. Got some breaking news
Speaker 1: that we're following Matt and Miller NFL draft scouts. An
Speaker 1: insider for Bleacher Report tweeted out last hour a lot
Speaker 1: of chatter the NFL could make the Titans forfeit their
Speaker 1: game against the Buffalo Bills as a punishment for violating
Speaker 1: COVID protocols. The Titans players held a workout at a
Speaker 1: Nashville school with the team facility closed. The head coach,
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabels said yesterday that players were told not to
Speaker 1: hold any group workouts. We ask our players in light
Speaker 1: of recent tests, to not gather, whether that's a league
Speaker 1: protocol or us asking them, so we can't just avoid
Speaker 1: close contact and we can try to work through this
Speaker 1: and get back into the building to prepare for Buffalo
Speaker 1: as quickly as possible. Week four's game against the Steelers
Speaker 1: resk eduled for October twenty fifth because of the positive
Speaker 1: test there. The Titans are scheduled to host the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills this Sunday. That is in doubt right now, that's
Speaker 1: in serious jeopardy. But the big news is could the
Speaker 1: NFL make the Titans forfeit this game as punishment for
Speaker 1: violating COVID protocols? Now, Mike Rabel didn't sound as demonstrative
Speaker 1: as hey, we told them absolutely positively, no workouts. You
Speaker 1: can't do like you can't be vague on anything. The
Speaker 1: NFL can't be vague on any of this, And that's
Speaker 1: what I would want to know. What were you told?
Speaker 1: What did the NFL say to the Titans because they
Speaker 1: can't go to the facility. Were they told you cannot
Speaker 1: have any workouts here? Did Mike Vrabel say to his
Speaker 1: players you cannot gather, But these players don't know if
Speaker 1: the game is going to be played this weekend. They
Speaker 1: got together, you know, we can't go to the facility.
Speaker 1: We're not supposed to work out, but we got to
Speaker 1: work out. We don't want to go into a game unprepared,
Speaker 1: and you got a game against an undefeated Buffalo Bills team.
Speaker 1: So that's what's going on right now as we speak.
Speaker 1: There's a chance the Titans will have to forfeit this
Speaker 1: game coming up this weekend as punishment for violating the
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Speaker 1: the other headlines here Buccaneers at the Bears coming up tonight,
Speaker 1: No NBA tonight. Don't want to go against the NFL.
Speaker 1: Lebron and company try to go for a series clinching
Speaker 1: win on Friday night. The Saints will stay in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: There was a chance they were going to relocate to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: They have a game with the Chargers coming up on
Speaker 1: Monday night, and they were at least looking at the
Speaker 1: possibility of playing the Chargers in Indianapolis on Monday night.
Speaker 1: Braves win, A's win, Rays win, Dodgers win. John Olts,
Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer, was on the call last night
Speaker 1: of the Padres and the Dodgers had had some great
Speaker 1: moments there, fun moments. We'll talk to Smolt about that
Speaker 1: whole question. McLevin, what do you have for us today?
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five and also our TV partner Peacock.
Speaker 1: Would you rather rob a home run to win a
Speaker 1: game or hit a home run to win a game?
Speaker 1: Where it's sixty hit a home run. Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: I would rather rob somebody of a home run because
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen very often. You know, we've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of home runs, walk off home runs. I was
Speaker 1: there with Joe Carter when I was in Skydom in
Speaker 1: Toronto when they beat the Phillies and Joe hit that
Speaker 1: home run, and that was a magical moment to witness that.
Speaker 1: And you know, but to be able to rob somebody
Speaker 1: of a home run, that's just like Malcolm Butler when
Speaker 1: he robbed Seattle of a Super Bowl win. Mike Jones
Speaker 1: to a lesser degree when he had the tackle on
Speaker 1: Dyson with the Titans, then the Rams and the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean, Malcolm Butler won a Super Bowl. He won
Speaker 1: it individually. He won it that decision to somehow, you know,
Speaker 1: get in between the you know, the wide receiver and
Speaker 1: the football and make that catch and that that gave
Speaker 1: New England a Super Bowl, won a Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: if you said, I could be Santonio Holmes and catch
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass in the corner of the end zone
Speaker 1: from Ben Roethlisberger as the Steelers beat Arizona in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, or I could be Malcolm Butler. We'll remember
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler's play long long after we remember Santonio Holmes.
Speaker 1: We will There was some chatter about J. J. Watt
Speaker 1: and the role that he may have played and getting
Speaker 1: his coach fired, Bill O'Brien, and I guess there was
Speaker 1: an altercation as far as a heated exchange between Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien and J. J. Watt. This was during a recent
Speaker 1: practice and the incident also included a defensive coordinator who
Speaker 1: took place in the week leading up to the winless
Speaker 1: Texans Week three loss to the Steelers, and sources confirmed
Speaker 1: ESPN a verbal blow up at practice and that the
Speaker 1: incident was when O'Brien quote lost the team Titans our
Speaker 1: Texans now owned four and O'Brien was fired as the
Speaker 1: head coach, and JJ Watt, of course, the three time
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year, said yesterday he's looking forward
Speaker 1: to a fresh start after O'Brien was fired. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to talk to you about what happened at practice
Speaker 1: or what conversations were had or whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: Watt said. The situation is what the situation is, and
Speaker 1: we right now have a fresh start and we had
Speaker 1: a good practice today, we're looking forward to Jacksonville and
Speaker 1: sounds like he's with the Patriots. Do you remember when
Speaker 1: we had JJ Watt on we had this clip. I
Speaker 1: played this clip. This is from back in June, and
Speaker 1: JJ is ask about Bill O'Brien and I saw this
Speaker 1: unfold live and I went, oh my god, it looked
Speaker 1: so awkward and sounded so awkward. And I'll let you
Speaker 1: reminisce or judge for yourself. Here is JJ Watt asked
Speaker 1: about Bill O'Brien and what makes him such a good coach?
Speaker 1: You're there on the inside. What makes Bill O'Brien a
Speaker 1: good head coach? He's got two new play callers with him.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different role. What makes him good
Speaker 1: at leading this team? I think his job is to
Speaker 1: is to do just that is, to lead the team,
Speaker 1: is to obviously he's more of an offensive guy defensive guy,
Speaker 1: so it's it's to lead the overall team, but then
Speaker 1: to lead the offense and now with his other roles
Speaker 1: as well as to general manages to do everything within
Speaker 1: the organization. That's that's his role, and I think that's
Speaker 1: what obviously he excels at M. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a compliment in there, and the body language is terrible.
Speaker 1: He's like, oh god, how do I say something without
Speaker 1: really saying something? How does Derek Jeter do it all
Speaker 1: these years that you look like you're saying something, you
Speaker 1: don't say anything. Yeah? Yeah, boy. And JJ is a
Speaker 1: good ass dude. He can talk nice about anybody. Yes
Speaker 1: he can. Yeah, he's the head coach. He's got the
Speaker 1: parking spot and the parking spots is I mean, we
Speaker 1: got the head coach title there. And by being the
Speaker 1: head coach, that means he runs the team. Hence head coach.
Speaker 1: He's the head of the team. And that's all I
Speaker 1: really want to say about that. And he's an offensive
Speaker 1: minded guy and uh you know that. Yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: next question there. Uh So now then I think part
Speaker 1: of the ownership came out and said, hey, we weren't
Speaker 1: going to be able to resign DeAndre Hopkins. I we
Speaker 1: all know that. I just I just told you, you
Speaker 1: know before most people did that they're gonna trade him.
Speaker 1: That that was you know, it's one of those everybody
Speaker 1: knew it, and inside with the Texans, and I was
Speaker 1: told by somebody with the Texans, like, no, he's gone.
Speaker 1: He and Bill don't get along. He wants out and
Speaker 1: he wants to get paid. My problem was you didn't
Speaker 1: get anything for him. And DeAndre Hopkins is leading the
Speaker 1: NFL and catches right now, So that that was the
Speaker 1: only point that I was bringing up with that. And
Speaker 1: I don't know Bill O'Brien, and he might. He just
Speaker 1: strikes me as he's going to be a coordinator someplace.
Speaker 1: But to be a head coach and a GM, you know,
Speaker 1: it's tough enough to be a head coach. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen as far as you know,
Speaker 1: filling that void there, But there's probably gonna be five
Speaker 1: or six, you know, openings here by the end of
Speaker 1: the year. Yes, mclovin. Yeah. Dabbo, by the way, said
Speaker 1: he's not going answer questions about the Texans and doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go and he shouldn't answer them even if
Speaker 1: he wants to go there. I wouldn't answer those questions
Speaker 1: right now. He's got a football season to prepare for.
Speaker 1: You can't hire somebody like you can't bring in an
Speaker 1: assistant coach like Eric b Enemy for the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: go okay, here you go in the middle of a season.
Speaker 1: You know there's rules that prevent you from doing that.
Speaker 1: If Dabo, Hey, I'm worried about Miami this weekend. Yes, Polly,
Speaker 1: I just smelled Deavo getting a big pay raise right
Speaker 1: January ninth, Hey, we just signed an eight year extension
Speaker 1: of Dabo Switty for blah blah blah blah blah doesn't
Speaker 1: remember less Miles. Whenever less Miles wanted to raise, he
Speaker 1: would just say, let me see you. I can call
Speaker 1: my friend at who's the ad at Arkansas? Hey? Can
Speaker 1: you can you act like you're interested in me again? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Let's say something different this time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll get you something. I'll get you a nice gift here,
Speaker 1: I get your bass boat. Okay, I just say you
Speaker 1: like me and you're thinking, and we'd be crazy not
Speaker 1: to consider less Miles and LSU announcing Less Miles is
Speaker 1: signed a contract extension through the year three thousand and
Speaker 1: fifty seven. Even let's see what else did I see?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play this again for you because I Seton
Speaker 1: brought this up a couple of days ago, and he said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I was watching this play and it
Speaker 1: reminded me of we don't have this kind of ambiance
Speaker 1: in the bubble, like this is what we really miss.
Speaker 1: NBA did a great job. They pulled this off. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a champion in the NBA. Then they'll regroup,
Speaker 1: probably start the season at the end of January. But
Speaker 1: you miss these moments, and this moment taking place in
Speaker 1: Golden State Game seven. It was twenty sixteen, the NBA Finals,
Speaker 1: And here's the call by Mike Breen on ABC. Each
Speaker 1: team has a foul decaft if we come up on
Speaker 1: a minute remaining and they put it, Curry in to
Speaker 1: pick a role, trying to get them on Irving, Irving
Speaker 1: and Curry one on one, Irving puts it up match
Speaker 1: god Tyree Irvingtowntown the Cavaliers by three. That's what you miss.
Speaker 1: That's on the road and Mike Breen and Mark Jackson
Speaker 1: are struggling, just to you know, they're battling the crowd there,
Speaker 1: and that's what I miss. Now, we haven't had that
Speaker 1: many exciting plays in the NBA Finals, but we have
Speaker 1: had that in another series here. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: they're doing their best. It's a sterile environment. They've tried
Speaker 1: to amp it up a little bit even baseball. Last
Speaker 1: night watching it football, it feels like there is a
Speaker 1: crowd there, you know, but we don't see that crowd.
Speaker 1: So you're okay with just hearing the noise. When you
Speaker 1: see that there's no crowd in Major League Baseball, there's
Speaker 1: no crowd, then you realize, hey, this is kind of
Speaker 1: a trick that they're playing on us. But the NFL,
Speaker 1: they've done a pretty good job with that. Yeah, mcclub,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Derek Fisher's game winning NBA Finals. It's like
Speaker 1: he rises up out of the crowd, which are all
Speaker 1: standing on their feet visually too. You're right, it's but
Speaker 1: that is that one of the reasons ratings are down. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I watch I don't. I
Speaker 1: never care about ratings. I couldn't care less. Like, if
Speaker 1: I watch it, I want to watch it if there's something,
Speaker 1: you know, great that happens. If it's boring, you know,
Speaker 1: then you know, you decide what you want to watch,
Speaker 1: when you want to watch it, how much you want
Speaker 1: to watch it. The NBA has had a storyline, a
Speaker 1: couple of different storylines, but the you know, the overwriting
Speaker 1: storyline was the bubble and could they make it happen.
Speaker 1: And it almost felt like after that that if it's
Speaker 1: going to happen, anything else is going to pale in comparison.
Speaker 1: This is just going to be known as the bubble.
Speaker 1: You know, Major League Baseball, same thing. You know, they
Speaker 1: struggled to get to the finish line regular season NHL.
Speaker 1: You guys know who won the Stanley Cup yep, Tampa
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Lightning. Okay, I just want to remind you
Speaker 1: because that might get lost in a couple of years
Speaker 1: from now or a year from now. So I can't
Speaker 1: tell you who won the Baseball World Series last year,
Speaker 1: though I know beat Geberleague Baseball always gets lost in
Speaker 1: the last five years. I know the Nats one. But
Speaker 1: considering the strangeness of twenty twenty, you wouldn't think that
Speaker 1: this was do or die for any Major League Baseball team.
Speaker 1: But as the division Series get going, there seems to
Speaker 1: be a whole lot of pressure on one particular team,
Speaker 1: and that's the Dodgers. Dodgers beating the Padres last night.
Speaker 1: They took a take a two oh series lead, and
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger stole a home run from Fernando Tatis the
Speaker 1: play of the game and you know, it almost feels
Speaker 1: like relief for Dodger fans, like you want to win,
Speaker 1: you want to celebrate. It just feels like and Clayton
Speaker 1: Kershaw gave up back to back home runs and you
Speaker 1: just go, oh no, and then they win. They dominated
Speaker 1: all season long, and most of the teams in this
Speaker 1: year's playoffs don't have as much to lose. It feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, the Rays and the Braves and the A's,
Speaker 1: you know, they're all up and coming. The Yankees had
Speaker 1: that huge payroll, but their fans realize they have serious flaws.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a off ball team. They don't have
Speaker 1: a great rotation, they don't have great middle relief, and
Speaker 1: they lost to the Rays. The Dodgers can't afford a
Speaker 1: trip up here. And it feels like every move that
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts makes is magnified and you got some big
Speaker 1: decisions here, and when Kenley Jansen comes in, you hold
Speaker 1: your breath and you're relieved when he saves a game.
Speaker 1: But the Dodgers are winning, but until they capture another
Speaker 1: World Series, I don't think anybody is going to be satisfied.
Speaker 1: And then on top of that, if the Lakers win
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, it's like, Okay, Dodgers, it's
Speaker 1: your turn. Not that that's fair, but that's the landscape
Speaker 1: right now. We'll check in with John Smoltz. He was
Speaker 1: on the call last night on Fox Sports and Troy
Speaker 1: Aikman calls out the Cowboys defense. I think that the
Speaker 1: Washington football team made a mistake. I think they made
Speaker 1: a mistake with their choice at quarterback. I'll have that
Speaker 1: for you as well. And also a preposterous quote from
Speaker 1: a member of the Dallas Cowboys defense. I am a
Speaker 1: tease machine, Easy Greenberg teas machine. Mike Greenberg just said,
Speaker 1: whoa slow down there? Get up? That's what I like
Speaker 1: to say. All right, let me take a break here.
Speaker 1: We'll check him Smoltzy. Phone calls are welcome, Age seven
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Speaker 1: We finally did him. You know, I thought LA was big,
Speaker 1: you know, being in LA big market. But I said,
Speaker 1: I gotta get Juno somehow. You got to get me
Speaker 1: into Juno, and we did it. So pumped. Yeah, so pumped. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Baked Alaska next week, all week for breakfast, all day,
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Speaker 1: trivia every day. Maybe it's like this day in sports history,
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be huge. Yeah. Kind of borrowing from Todd's
Speaker 1: playbook on that one. Booh, and that's a dangerous play Juno. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do. You put the jew in Juno at least,
Speaker 1: thank you, John. All right back broh, Holy days a
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Speaker 1: love it. Every time they lose, Todd gets to war.
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Speaker 1: Take a break. John Smoltz just popped up there on
Speaker 1: Zoom in his hotel room. We'll talk to Smoltsey coming
Speaker 1: up next, and we'll check in with the Patriots as well.
Speaker 1: Only one positive there was Stefan Gilmore. We'll see if
Speaker 1: the Patriots game against the Broncos is in jeopardy without
Speaker 1: is Cam Newton going to play? So that'll be coming
Speaker 1: up a little bit later on as well. We're going
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Speaker 1: to the Hall of Famer John Smolts in a moment
Speaker 1: he was on the call last night Dodgers Podre. Well,
Speaker 1: there was an interesting moment there where the Dodgers responding
Speaker 1: to the Padres. Manny Machado's out there yelling that the Dodgers.
Speaker 1: In fact, here's Mookie Bats talking about that exchange. That
Speaker 1: Machado was getting upset that the Dodgers had the audacity
Speaker 1: to celebrate after Cody Bellinger's great catch. Now, I just
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, when he hit his home run,
Speaker 1: you know, he threw the bat and this that any
Speaker 1: other and then we take them on away. We can
Speaker 1: celebrate too, So it's got to be two sides to it.
Speaker 1: That was just what I was saying. Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was great back and forth there Padres trying to
Speaker 1: hold on here and they're down O two. John Smoltz
Speaker 1: was on the call last night courtesy of Funk Sports,
Speaker 1: and he joins us, Now, some festivities there, a little
Speaker 1: fireworks there, some bad blood there as well. What did
Speaker 1: you take away from this game last night? Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: I think without the fans, right, you got to generate
Speaker 1: your own intensity and you're then and I've seen that
Speaker 1: the teams that had the most excitement in there, and
Speaker 1: there dugouts it may not always be received well because
Speaker 1: we don't typically get to hear the bantering going back
Speaker 1: and forth. Well, guess what, you can hear just about everything.
Speaker 1: And as a broadcaster, you know, all I could have
Speaker 1: done and said, look here, I'm throwing my mask yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all I could have done. But I
Speaker 1: could check a couple of things off of my list
Speaker 1: of things I've never seen. I've never seen a glove
Speaker 1: throw that that long, other than Jesse Roscoe maybe when
Speaker 1: he threw his up to the sky and they won
Speaker 1: the whole thing that they're serious. So yeah, I kind
Speaker 1: of agreed. I echoed the same sentiments of what Mookie
Speaker 1: Betts said. You know, the only thing you just can't
Speaker 1: have in this game, you can't have it both ways.
Speaker 1: You got to be able to take what comes back
Speaker 1: at you when you show that kind of emotion. And
Speaker 1: I'm fine with the emotion, it's just the emotion sometimes
Speaker 1: is trying to create something for your team because you're behind,
Speaker 1: and you hope it had carryover effect, and it looked
Speaker 1: like it did because they went back back to back
Speaker 1: on Homer's Okay, but the Dodger pitcher who's celebrating, Yeah,
Speaker 1: gave up a home run, like if Bellinger doesn't bring
Speaker 1: it back, like he can't celebrate. He didn't strike out
Speaker 1: the side. No, No, he was. He was a bomb John.
Speaker 1: He did, he did. He gave up all was turned
Speaker 1: into one of the best catcher you're going to see
Speaker 1: in a while. And I think he was so excited
Speaker 1: that his teammate caught it, caught it that. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's blowing kisses to the padres dug out there. I
Speaker 1: get it. I mean, I guess here's the thing that
Speaker 1: I've always said. You know, when you when you watch
Speaker 1: baseball and you see the exuberant celebrations on home runs,
Speaker 1: the unbelievable bat flips. Why I ask you this question,
Speaker 1: why does the hitters only get to do it? You
Speaker 1: never see We look at Trevor Bauer and he's the
Speaker 1: outlier when he walks off the mound the way he does.
Speaker 1: I think as pictures, as a group of pictures, it's
Speaker 1: time that they start showing some excitement. I did the
Speaker 1: Pascal Perez thing, you know, back in the day, a
Speaker 1: little jimmy when I got a chance to strike them out. No,
Speaker 1: it's all it's all good. I can I'm I'm okay
Speaker 1: with pitchers. Dennis Eckersley used to you know, shoot you
Speaker 1: down your next yet out. Yeah, we need more of that.
Speaker 1: I guess I love it. I'm I'm fine with all
Speaker 1: of that. I want baseball to be a celebration. I know, John,
Speaker 1: you gotta get kids watching. And I'm not saying be gimmicky,
Speaker 1: but if I'm a kid and I'm watching, it doesn't
Speaker 1: move people throw really hard and swing really hard. Other
Speaker 1: than that, there's no joy in Mudville. And that's my
Speaker 1: biggest concern with baseball is how do you create an
Speaker 1: atmosphere if I'm a ten year old, a twelve year
Speaker 1: old because you're you know, your demo is in the fifties,
Speaker 1: probably mid fifties. You got to create something that if
Speaker 1: I'm a sports fan, why am I watching this? Well,
Speaker 1: you're watching it because these guys have fun tattoos. Love it.
Speaker 1: I love it. You know you want to do that
Speaker 1: bat flip. If you got a guy on the mound
Speaker 1: who's striking people out, punching you out, I'm good with
Speaker 1: that as well. Have fun. Every other sport does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's my only point. It's like, it's it's only
Speaker 1: kind of the hitters. They get to do it, and
Speaker 1: and and look, if a pitcher started doing it, it
Speaker 1: would be probably be a little bit more entertaining because
Speaker 1: they have the opportunity to do it a few more
Speaker 1: times to the same batter. But it's it's interesting how
Speaker 1: The only thing I would say is that the context
Speaker 1: of sometimes you can't get mad if the other the
Speaker 1: other team's going to do something, you just can't. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing. And in the heat of the moment,
Speaker 1: of course, you could always have your your all right,
Speaker 1: we'll give him a break type thing. But what I
Speaker 1: when I saw the glove toss, I gotta be honest,
Speaker 1: that's a first And if he had the insight to
Speaker 1: be able to do that based on the bat tossed,
Speaker 1: like to do that that quickly, that would be um.
Speaker 1: I gotta give him some props. I understand that the
Speaker 1: Dodgers absolutely loved this kid, and and certainly if you
Speaker 1: throw one hundred and you got a wipe out slider
Speaker 1: like he does, I guess it's easy to love him.
Speaker 1: Would you rather hit a game winning home run or
Speaker 1: have the game winning catch? Like if you could have
Speaker 1: hit Bellinger's catch to win a game, or a home
Speaker 1: run a walk off. I've always said, you know, I've
Speaker 1: robbed more home runs than any picture in the history
Speaker 1: of the game, right. I mean, that's that's a fact
Speaker 1: because I kept track in shagging fly balls. But I
Speaker 1: would much rather rob a home run. I think that's
Speaker 1: one of the coolest plays we rarely get to see.
Speaker 1: If I were a commissioner, I would make sure every
Speaker 1: stadium except Boston, you can't really change that wall. I
Speaker 1: would make sure every fence has a chance for a
Speaker 1: guy to rob a home run. I think it's one
Speaker 1: of the most exciting plays, the game winning home run.
Speaker 1: There's just so much more of them that that catch
Speaker 1: last night. Look, that's a game changing kind of series changer.
Speaker 1: And in a short series, you if that's the best
Speaker 1: of seven, in game two, you got much more time
Speaker 1: to kind of rebound from it. That's game that's a
Speaker 1: that's a basically game two of a best of five,
Speaker 1: and that's much more difficult to come back from. I
Speaker 1: had a couple of notes as I was watching the
Speaker 1: game last night. First of all, the ballpark itself, so
Speaker 1: you have two teams that aren't used to you know,
Speaker 1: it's not their home field there, And do you play
Speaker 1: differently now that you're in this bubble and you're not
Speaker 1: able to be in your ball I mean, the Dodgers
Speaker 1: would at least be familiar with the Padres ballpark and
Speaker 1: here you are in a different ballpark. And how does
Speaker 1: strategy change for these two teams. I think the biggest
Speaker 1: thing is you know your look and the balls jumping
Speaker 1: out of those other two ballparks that they play in
Speaker 1: than the other series. So there's eighteen home runs in
Speaker 1: LA and what fifteen home runs in San Diego? So
Speaker 1: the familiarity of when you hit a ball is pretty
Speaker 1: obvious to those guys here they're getting used to. Okay,
Speaker 1: this was the first night that the ball actually carried
Speaker 1: a little bit. We saw some homers go over the fence.
Speaker 1: It's a big ballpark. It's a really, really beautiful park,
Speaker 1: and I think you would play differently from a base
Speaker 1: running standpoint because the gaps are huge. Defensively, you're going
Speaker 1: to have to cover more, so those things come into play.
Speaker 1: But what a great venue. And I think both both
Speaker 1: clubs I've talked about how you know big the ballpark is,
Speaker 1: and certainly they've they've squared up some balls that got caught.
Speaker 1: So if you if you have some defense out there
Speaker 1: in center field especially, you're gonna make you're gonna take
Speaker 1: away a lot of runs. Talking to John Smoltz, the
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer working for Fox Sports, you had the
Speaker 1: call last night with the Dodgers and Padres. You talked
Speaker 1: about Clayton Kershaw. Some of these pitchers have their own catcher.
Speaker 1: Explain how a catcher is that much different for a pitcher. Well,
Speaker 1: the familiarity of just being on the same page, right,
Speaker 1: there are times that you aren't on the same page,
Speaker 1: and that continuity kind of affects the flow. And when
Speaker 1: you know there's a guy back there that's thinking along
Speaker 1: the same lines of you, and he's doing work. He's
Speaker 1: doing his work, and you've done yours and they match up.
Speaker 1: That is something that's hard to explain to the viewer
Speaker 1: that why that's so important. You would think that throwing
Speaker 1: to anybody based on your stuff would be okay. But
Speaker 1: the way a guy catches the ball, the way he
Speaker 1: frames it, the way his setup is can be appealing
Speaker 1: and on the opposite side, he can be a little awkward.
Speaker 1: When you don't see things the same way. A bigger catcher,
Speaker 1: for example, might not frame well. I've thrown into a
Speaker 1: lot of different catchers, and there is a difference between
Speaker 1: the way they set up, how they receive, and how
Speaker 1: you're on the same page. You don't want to be
Speaker 1: out there shaking your head a lot. You want to
Speaker 1: be able to be in rhythm. How do you tell
Speaker 1: the other catcher that you don't want him? You know,
Speaker 1: the numbers will speak pretty obviously. I think the disparity
Speaker 1: of the ra between the two catchers, and not that
Speaker 1: Will Smith's not a great catcher, was pretty high, and
Speaker 1: sometimes the sample sizes and isn't good. But I think
Speaker 1: that comes to the manager. I've only had one instance
Speaker 1: where I felt compelled to go to Bobby Cox and
Speaker 1: go give me the kid, give me Brian McCann. It
Speaker 1: just happened to work out. We won seven games in
Speaker 1: a row. He stayed up in the big leagues and
Speaker 1: the rest was history for him, history for him. But
Speaker 1: you've seen over the course of time that pitchers definitely
Speaker 1: are comfortable with I guess quote unquote personal catchers. The
Speaker 1: other thing you'll hear is, hey, we need to give
Speaker 1: so and so a day off, so he just happens
Speaker 1: to be the guy that What were the Yankees doing
Speaker 1: in the previous game, not the one they lost last night,
Speaker 1: because I think they may have lost the series by
Speaker 1: trying to be too smart to outraig the Rays with
Speaker 1: you know, the lineup, right hand, left hand, that whole thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I mean, obviously, when you make those decisions,
Speaker 1: you feel like they're the right decisions at the moment,
Speaker 1: and you hope they all work out. But you know,
Speaker 1: what we're seeing is a kind of a confluence, if
Speaker 1: you will, between the organizations that have in this setup,
Speaker 1: which we have never seen with no often have the
Speaker 1: ability to be able to go deep in a series,
Speaker 1: which gives them the advantage depth wise. In my memory,
Speaker 1: I don't remember too many series where you go in
Speaker 1: and go we don't have a fourth or a fifth starter,
Speaker 1: and in some cases we didn't have a third starter.
Speaker 1: But the Yankees kind of have that. And to your point,
Speaker 1: I'm a little intrigue for why they'd set up, you know,
Speaker 1: the situation the way they did. And you're right, if
Speaker 1: they don't win this game, I'm assuming that Garrett Cole
Speaker 1: would pitch Game five. But this format is really going
Speaker 1: to either shed light on some things or exposed some
Speaker 1: things for these clubs. I just think it gives a
Speaker 1: team with the best depth the best chance to move forward.
Speaker 1: And you might very well say the Race have the
Speaker 1: best depth in the American League for sure. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have the Rays in the Dodgers in the World Series.
Speaker 1: But if you said that it was going to be
Speaker 1: the Dodgers and Astros, I'd sign up for that right now. Well,
Speaker 1: the storylines, there'd be a lot to talk about, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, there would be you want to talk about
Speaker 1: the emotion and the thing that you're going to see. Now,
Speaker 1: at that point, we'll still we'll have some fans, which
Speaker 1: would be nice and won't be a packed house, but
Speaker 1: at least not home ballparks, right correct, Yeah, correct, And
Speaker 1: I think, look, I understand, I totally understand where the
Speaker 1: Astros are as a team. I just think it's hard.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you got to bite your tongue and you just
Speaker 1: got to prove it. You just got to go out
Speaker 1: and prove it. And that's what they're doing. They're playing
Speaker 1: great team baseball, and they've lost a lot of stars,
Speaker 1: and certainly the narrative is going to be one that
Speaker 1: you really can't speak to if you're them, because it
Speaker 1: just has one of those you just know whin you
Speaker 1: know scenarios attached to it. Yeah, and I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear from them. I don't want it to be Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, can you criticize us? Now? If you could
Speaker 1: play this way, then why did you cheat? That was
Speaker 1: That's still what I keep coming back to. If you're
Speaker 1: this good, we thought you were this good, then why
Speaker 1: did you cheat? Yeah? And again, like I said, it's
Speaker 1: it's this year, will come and go, well, will find
Speaker 1: out a champion, we'll be able to talk about. I
Speaker 1: think the hardest route road to a champion ever. I
Speaker 1: think the World Series winner is going to have a
Speaker 1: no asterisk. And by the way, probably the hardest journey
Speaker 1: that they've ever had, not even taken into considerations the
Speaker 1: COVID journey. It's just the tournament itself presents so many
Speaker 1: tough obstacles. And I'll say this, nobody has more pressure
Speaker 1: than the Dodgers, and the second most team that has
Speaker 1: the pressures probably the Yankees. But nobody has had more
Speaker 1: pressure in the Dodgers, and they've handled it so far incredibly. Well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just get a sense of when they win, its relief,
Speaker 1: not celebration. Yeah, that's that's a good it's a good
Speaker 1: depiction of where they're at because you think about that
Speaker 1: first series is scary best of three, and then this
Speaker 1: series of course, with it's rare that you have the
Speaker 1: two best records playing this early, but that's the way
Speaker 1: it's set up, and it just so happens. The Padres
Speaker 1: have unfortunately lost some key pitching to not be able
Speaker 1: to mix and match the way they thought they could
Speaker 1: against you know, the bullies of their division, because for
Speaker 1: the last five years they've had their way with the
Speaker 1: Padres and it's a new it's going to be a
Speaker 1: new next five years in the West. There's certain pitchers.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought Pedro had his Sandy Kofax moment.
Speaker 1: He had like five or six years which he was
Speaker 1: just incredible in the American League in that ballpark. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously Sandy Kofax, you pitched with Maddox on your team.
Speaker 1: Kershaw has had that run as well. Does Kershaw fit
Speaker 1: in with those guys with having that five six year
Speaker 1: window that is historical? Oh? Absolutely. I mean when I
Speaker 1: do a game. You know, you dive back into the
Speaker 1: numbers and you got to check it like three times. Go. Really,
Speaker 1: this is his career numbers. It doesn't seem it just
Speaker 1: seems like it's a video game. And I think, to
Speaker 1: his credit, what he's been able to do over the
Speaker 1: course of his career, and in this era, he's the
Speaker 1: perfect picture that could pitch in any era. Like they
Speaker 1: talk about certain pitchers fifteen years ago that couldn't pitch today,
Speaker 1: they're probably right. But in the sense that this era
Speaker 1: is a swinging miss and Homer era, he has still
Speaker 1: dominated because he's figured out how to do that. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the one thing, you know. I know
Speaker 1: we're going to all talk about his postseasons ups and downs,
Speaker 1: but you watch at the end of his career, it's
Speaker 1: going to be more up than it is down. And
Speaker 1: that's the one thing. Keep giving the ball on the
Speaker 1: guy in this in this timeframe and he's going to deliver.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great point. And I was I
Speaker 1: was thinking about that that I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 1: was I watch him and he gets so many swings
Speaker 1: and misses, and in this game now it is a
Speaker 1: swing and either connect or miss you don't put the
Speaker 1: ball in play and to have that ability. You know,
Speaker 1: he was topping out at like ninety two I think
Speaker 1: on his fastball, But you know that's just to kind
Speaker 1: of keep you honest. There, you know that. But those
Speaker 1: breaking balls and these guys swinging for the downs there,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't matter. How would Maddox have been
Speaker 1: in today's game where he wanted you to put the
Speaker 1: ball in play? I love this question, and I will
Speaker 1: argue with anybody who thinks that he would get beat up.
Speaker 1: There's no way. He would absolutely dominate in this era.
Speaker 1: The one thing about the style of hitting is there's
Speaker 1: no adjustments, right, So I get the fact that the
Speaker 1: easiest way to score is to hit a home run.
Speaker 1: So you wait for a mistake, you don't have to
Speaker 1: alter your swing, and you mash them. He's not going
Speaker 1: to give you a chance to get the ball in
Speaker 1: the area where you want to. And that's the one
Speaker 1: difference between the style of pitching today, where you live
Speaker 1: in the zone with stuff because the stuff is phenomenal,
Speaker 1: but when you make a mistake, it goes a long way.
Speaker 1: And I just don't think Greg makes a lot of mistakes.
Speaker 1: I watched over the course of his career just carve
Speaker 1: guys up on the corners and be able to get
Speaker 1: him to chase velocity then change speeds, and I think
Speaker 1: that's the one. You know, it's very difficult to transcend
Speaker 1: kind of eras. I wish we could do it, and
Speaker 1: we could do it statistically, but you can't do it
Speaker 1: in your mind to think like, oh, this guy would
Speaker 1: get killed, and this guy would do this. I know
Speaker 1: his stripeouts would go up and his homers would go up,
Speaker 1: but I don't think he would suffer because the style
Speaker 1: of hit would cause him to suffer. It would be
Speaker 1: his pitching that would expose the style of hitting. John
Speaker 1: of course in the Hall of Fame. But you did
Speaker 1: have three career stolen bases. Oh yeah, didn't you steal
Speaker 1: third ones? You know, I was before people ever got
Speaker 1: to know me as a pitcher. I was the official
Speaker 1: pinch runner when I got called up under Russ Nixon,
Speaker 1: and I still talk about one of the most infamous
Speaker 1: moments of where I pinched ran in San Diego and
Speaker 1: I was called earlier than I was prepared for because
Speaker 1: I didn't have my spikes on. I had my church seat,
Speaker 1: and I say this all the time. I had milk dugs.
Speaker 1: I was enjoying a great game on the dugout and
Speaker 1: I got called in and I couldn't find my helmet.
Speaker 1: Jody Davis was at first. I had to shove the
Speaker 1: box of milk dugs in my back pocket and it
Speaker 1: took about five minutes to get a helmet. I realized
Speaker 1: as I was running out he had my helmet. We
Speaker 1: switched helmets. I got to first. Benito San Diego was
Speaker 1: behind the plake, so I was scared to death to
Speaker 1: get picked off. I got thrown out at second by
Speaker 1: just a little a I think it was a bunt
Speaker 1: and I slid on my milk duds and I got
Speaker 1: chewed out later by my manager for not having spikes.
Speaker 1: So what I say all that that I did have
Speaker 1: speedback then, and no, it doesn't look like it. Didn't
Speaker 1: look like it I did. But I have three stolen
Speaker 1: bases in the postseason. I have a stolen base too,
Speaker 1: of course you do. Yeah, yeah, not many pitchers have
Speaker 1: a stolen base in the postseason. And I tell you
Speaker 1: I've robbed back to back homers on back to back
Speaker 1: pitches in in uh in VP. That's still I mean,
Speaker 1: I just thought i'd throw that out there. It's hard
Speaker 1: to do back to backs. No, people still talk about then.
Speaker 1: Oh good, Yeah, and I have a baseball card robbing
Speaker 1: the home run. Uh, I'm not gonna bring up the
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds home run or anything like that. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: should probably shouldn't. He did do it, though, he said
Speaker 1: what he was gonna do, and you did it, and
Speaker 1: you threw and you threw a great pitch twice. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's always a great pitch. Man. He hit a great
Speaker 1: pitch there. Nobody ever says, man, he hit a crappy
Speaker 1: pitch there. John will be on the call with a
Speaker 1: Matt Vess Gerson tonight Game three Padres Dodgers at nine
Speaker 1: Eastern exclusively on MLB Network, and then Game four, potential
Speaker 1: Game five air on Fox Sports One. Great to talk
Speaker 1: to you. We'll be watching tonight, John, you got it.
Speaker 1: Thank you. An that's Johnny Smolts, Hall of Famer Milk
Speaker 1: dud boy. We'll tell you break phone calls coming up next.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I got a problem with the Washington football
Speaker 1: team with their decision to bench Dwayne Haskins. Have that
Speaker 1: for you, And I got a real problem with a
Speaker 1: member of the Dallas Cowboys defense. Have that for you
Speaker 1: coming up as well. Thanks for listening to The Dan
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Speaker 1: Titans coming up. If you're just joining us, it's not
Speaker 1: a pretty sight right now, and we're still waiting to
Speaker 1: see what are the possible contingency plans if they play
Speaker 1: this game against Buffalo. Where are they going to play at?
Speaker 1: When are they going to play at? Diana Russini does
Speaker 1: a great job for the Mothership. She says she's told
Speaker 1: by the Titans and Bills players. They were told there's
Speaker 1: an option of playing their Sunday game on Monday or
Speaker 1: Tuesday in Nashville. If that happens, Thursday night's game between
Speaker 1: the Chiefs at the Bills would be moved to Saturday.
Speaker 1: This is all just being discussed, but we'll check in
Speaker 1: with the Titans coming up. New Orleans is not going
Speaker 1: to relocate for their Monday night game due to the
Speaker 1: hurricane Hurricane Delta. I believe that they were going to
Speaker 1: go to Indianapolis and then asked the Chargers to come
Speaker 1: there and play on Monday night. A couple other stories.
Speaker 1: I heard this from Xavier Woods. He's the safety for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and given how bad the Cowboys have been,
Speaker 1: this is the worst three game stretch of Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: has ever formed it and Xavier Woods, the Cowboys safety,
Speaker 1: had this to say after they're lost this past weekend.
Speaker 1: My effort has been good. I mean certain plays some guy,
Speaker 1: I mean me, and clearly that maybe a lack, but overall,
Speaker 1: the effort is there. I mean, you don't expect, man,
Speaker 1: We're in the NFL. You don't expect guys to full
Speaker 1: speed for seventy plays. That's not that's not possible. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna push, push as hard as we can. I mean,
Speaker 1: we know you can't. You gonna expect the backside corner,
Speaker 1: They're gonna make a play on the opposite side. He
Speaker 1: running full speed the whole time. I just this is
Speaker 1: not possible. To be honest. Well, I'm glad you're honest,
Speaker 1: but that's not something you should be honest about. You
Speaker 1: don't verbalize that your defense has been horrible. Looks like
Speaker 1: you guys have quit on plays, lack of effort. This
Speaker 1: is what I would ask Xavier Woods, Well, do you
Speaker 1: get a full paycheck or do you only get let's
Speaker 1: say ninety percent of you like you know, you take
Speaker 1: place off. Should I give you a full paycheck or
Speaker 1: do I give you a like nine percent or eighty
Speaker 1: percent of your paycheck? Based on the way they played,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't give anybody any paycheck on that defense. There
Speaker 1: here is Troy Aitman, the Hall of Famer NFL and
Speaker 1: Fox analy was talking about that Dallas defense. To me,
Speaker 1: I'd be embarrassed as a player to put that kind
Speaker 1: of performance on film that's going to be seen by
Speaker 1: your peers for the rest of the season. It was
Speaker 1: just not very good. And I know Mike Nolan is
Speaker 1: in the firing line right now. But you know, over
Speaker 1: the years, you could always point to the way that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys played defensively. I mean they played with great effort.
Speaker 1: You know, they just flew around eleven guys and didn't
Speaker 1: always play great, but it was always there on film
Speaker 1: as far as the effort level. And I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't see one guy on defense that I'd say had
Speaker 1: a good game, and the last touchdown that Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: scored when they'd cut it to three points, you know
Speaker 1: they had all the momentum. If they make a stop
Speaker 1: there defensively, they probably won the game. Troy's right, you
Speaker 1: just don't have any effort here. And I said this
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, and I did have
Speaker 1: trepidation on picking the Cowboys to go to the World
Speaker 1: Series or the Super Bowl because of their defense. Offense,
Speaker 1: I think we thought they were going to be off
Speaker 1: the charts, and so far they've been off the charts,
Speaker 1: but the defense, as I said to mclovin, they always
Speaker 1: have big names, but they have big names because they're
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys. If those players played at some
Speaker 1: other place, there would be half the interest in, you know,
Speaker 1: just how good they are because they've got some name players,
Speaker 1: but they're not doing anything. And I can't imagine Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan holds onto this job very you know, too much longer.
Speaker 1: You got the Giants, and if you beat the Giants,
Speaker 1: that doesn't solve everything. But if you don't beat the Giants,
Speaker 1: we got real big problems now because Jerry goes all
Speaker 1: in every year. You know, he got his shiny object
Speaker 1: and ceedee lamb. We got three wide receivers, get a
Speaker 1: thousand yards. We got Zeke, we got Dak, we got
Speaker 1: it all. Well, the offensive line has been banged up
Speaker 1: and the defense has had some injuries, and then the
Speaker 1: defense is basically mailing it in and that's an issue.
Speaker 1: And this is up to Jerry Jones to do something.
Speaker 1: This is an easy division. You might go aid and
Speaker 1: aid and win this division. And if you don't win
Speaker 1: this division this year, I would seriously look at Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy and say, is he the right guy for this job?
Speaker 1: Now you brought in the defensive coordinator, so it's on
Speaker 1: you as well. But man, you you gotta play with
Speaker 1: a little more effort and do not say, hey, everybody
Speaker 1: takes everybody takes place off. We know they do, but
Speaker 1: you don't say that when you have been this bad,
Speaker 1: historically bad. Yeah, it's pay. We play one hundred percent
Speaker 1: sixty seven percent of the time. We'll check in on
Speaker 1: the Titans and the Patriots. Final hour, Dan and the
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