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Speaker 1: Everybody welcomed between the horns. I am Miles Simmons. DeMarco

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Speaker 1: far is to my right. It is September twelfth, just

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Speaker 1: about eleven am Pacific time here in Agora Hills, California.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Miles to my left, Yeah, Miles is to

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Speaker 1: my left. Yeah. This is the way I like to

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Speaker 1: be when we're on this show. You know, you're technical.

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Speaker 1: I love it, but it's the It's almost the way

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Speaker 1: I opened the show every time. Why are you like,

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Speaker 1: do rarely technical? Yeah? Right, six feet tall, three hundred pounds.

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Speaker 1: Who you Yeah, we're gonna be like specific. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: sitting at six foot tall, that's right, one hundred pounds

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Speaker 1: to your right, your Bowl champion, that's right, I like

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Speaker 1: DeMarco far Yeah exactly right. Well yeah, yeah, I'm to

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Speaker 1: the left, introduced myself. Go ahead, six foot tall, one

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty five pounds. I don't believe that anyway. The

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Speaker 1: Rams are one and all after defeating the Oakland Raiders

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Speaker 1: thirty three to thirteen on Monday Night football. Hell of

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Speaker 1: a game, wasn't it? Wasn't it fun? It was fun? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: once you take the emotion out of it, of course,

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Speaker 1: we're rooting for the Rams, But just from a football perspective,

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what the league needed, one of

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Speaker 1: those games on the biggest stage. Yeah, sure, especially to

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Speaker 1: cap off what was a really interesting week run around

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Speaker 1: the entire NFL. Lots of stuff, i mean, outside of football,

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Speaker 1: outside of what was going on inside the stadium, It's

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Speaker 1: just a lot of talk about the NFL. Finally you

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Speaker 1: get back to football and it was just an old

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Speaker 1: fashioned slobberknocker. That was fun. That was fun to watch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting, I think just from the perspective of

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Speaker 1: the fact that you have the Rams who have all

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Speaker 1: these expectations and then you go into Oakland and you know,

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Speaker 1: the Raiders kind of bludging you a little bit on

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Speaker 1: that first drive, especially Marshawn Lynch getting that touchdown. You

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Speaker 1: get John Druden on the sideline going yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: and you see that on ESPN. And then the Raiders

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Speaker 1: take that three point lead in the halftime. But the

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Speaker 1: Rams had complete control of that second and half, outscoring

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Speaker 1: the Raiders twenty three to zero, completely flipping in. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was about as how do you say it, They

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Speaker 1: flipped the script. It was almost as dramatic as what

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers did coming back from twenty points down, coming

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Speaker 1: off the you know, the the locker room for me

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Speaker 1: and injured to come back and win. But seeing Sean

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Speaker 1: mcvah in this offense and this entire football team flip

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Speaker 1: the script on the Raiders in their own stadium and

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Speaker 1: seeing that raucus crowd go from crazy to frenzy to

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Speaker 1: standing still to oh no, to walk out early, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was amazing. It was like a three part act,

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Speaker 1: yeah kind of it was, you know, and the final

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Speaker 1: lock was all Rams. It was. It was great to watch. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just thought that the Rams did a really nice

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Speaker 1: job of making those adjustments, you know, and we all

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Speaker 1: talked about it a lot last year. The Rams owned

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Speaker 1: the third quarter last year, and then we're able to

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Speaker 1: do so again in this one. And it started really

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Speaker 1: from that first drive. They didn't get the touchdown on

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Speaker 1: that first drive, but I think just starting with the

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Speaker 1: ball coming out of the locker room and then going

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Speaker 1: down the field and getting points to tie that game,

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Speaker 1: it sort of started that tie to turn. Every time

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Speaker 1: I go into the locker room at halftime, I'm always

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Speaker 1: amazed at how calm everyone is, from players to coaches

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Speaker 1: and vice versus from coaches through the players. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're just going over their adjustments and instructions. There's complete

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Speaker 1: confidence that they can turn whatever situation around into their favor. Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is what they're doing, this is what we're going

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Speaker 1: to do, and then let's go out and execute. And

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Speaker 1: that's exactly how they played. There was no RaRo, there

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Speaker 1: and this is how we're going to combat that. And

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Speaker 1: they went out and absolutely took it to the Raiders

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Speaker 1: for the second half, flipping the gatorade whatever. And that

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem like anybody's style on this team from a

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Speaker 1: coaching staff perspective. No, it shouldn't be. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 1: and you have to do that at halftime, it's probably

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Speaker 1: too late. Yeah, so you weren't ready to play. Probably,

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Speaker 1: But it wasn't like that. It was John Gruden had

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Speaker 1: fifteen plays, a scripted fifteen play drive and it absolutely

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Speaker 1: worked to perfection. Now go to the sideline, go into

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Speaker 1: points you're going to score. I think they've proven that

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Speaker 1: with this offense. Let's stick with the defense for a second,

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Speaker 1: because I think just pitching that shutout in the second

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Speaker 1: what Oakland was going to do to attack them, because

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Speaker 1: that we talked about this last week. It's very hard

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Speaker 1: that's going to go. As it turned out, they wanted

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Speaker 1: to get Jared Cook heavily involved, and he was, and

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Speaker 1: he to crush the Rams. You know, nine receptions one

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips something, he's going to be able to come

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Speaker 1: back and he's going to have something for you in

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Speaker 1: the second half. And that, to me is the story

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Speaker 1: any coach, great coach is going to find a way

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Speaker 1: to take away what's been working for the other team

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Speaker 1: those matchups. But I mean we talked about that going

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Speaker 1: this defense. Yes, all season long, that's not going to change.

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Speaker 1: And no disrespect to Jared Cook, but that's the best

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Speaker 1: one of them. No, if he was holding a grudge,

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Speaker 1: he held onto it for years. Yeah. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: that just the difference with Wade Phillips And he says, yes,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he's the goat. You know, he's got

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Speaker 1: He said his daddy was the goat, and now he's

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Speaker 1: I like it. Tiger blood, warlock blood, now goat blood.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, look, there's not there's not that

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Speaker 1: you've been in the league for four decades. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I love what they did with Jared Cook. They gave

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Speaker 1: slowed him down enough to make make enough players to

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Speaker 1: But when it finally mattered, you made enough stops to

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Speaker 1: so they could score. What did you see as the

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Speaker 1: adjustment that happened, Well, they got punched in the mouth.

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Speaker 1: they had been through the fire at least some preseason reps.

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Speaker 1: That was the first time the Rams defense as a

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Speaker 1: and we said the first drive was going to be rough,

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Speaker 1: with Marshawn Lynch and the head coach's mentality, you knew

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Speaker 1: they did. And credit to the Rams defense for waking

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Speaker 1: off the deck. They proceeded to play better in certain areas,

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Speaker 1: Carr changed the entire game. That changed a lot. That

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Speaker 1: up as a net benefit because, especially in that second half,

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Speaker 1: when Derek Carr seemed since any kind of trouble in

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Speaker 1: that pocket. Yeah, yeah, ball's going away. Got it happened

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Speaker 1: I like David Carr, you know, Derek's no David Carr,

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Speaker 1: Derek's brother. He tweeted out that they hitting your moment.

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Speaker 1: The hit was dirty. Oh look I have two older brothers.

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Speaker 1: Anytime I got blocked, they thought it was a hold.

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Speaker 1: They're brothers, that's what they do. It wasn't the dirty shot. Look,

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Speaker 1: you got knocked on the ground. He's trying to get

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Speaker 1: the quarterback on the on the ground. But intent doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: If you hit the quarterback below the knee, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a flag. Yes, Yeah, So I agree take

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Speaker 1: the fifteen, but the impact alone and the effect on

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Speaker 1: Car changed the entire game. It's worth it definitely that

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't call that play dirty. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: hear what you're saying from Derek Carr or David Carr

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Speaker 1: seeing how you got me doing sorry when he sees it, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's probably you know, you don't, don't a little brother? Yeah? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And you know, but I think when Aaron Donald is

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Speaker 1: trying to make that play, it's very hard for a

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Speaker 1: defender who's been knocked down to the ground. You're supposed

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Speaker 1: to swipe, and when I watched the replay, it looked

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Speaker 1: like that's what Aaron was trying to do, but his

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Speaker 1: then get the roughing the pastor kenalty. Well yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the discussion was on the field,

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Speaker 1: but I saw Aaron going up to officials and being like, hey,

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Speaker 1: what what happened here? Right? Well, I mean I've been

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Speaker 1: with the football. So you're just trying to get to

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Speaker 1: him with everything you've got. You push forward, you hit

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Speaker 1: as an official. You do, you do. Intent doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Aaron said, I wasn't trying to hit him there,

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Speaker 1: He didn't quit, he fought back and made a play.

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00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: Ye turned the tide. I thought that was huge for

425
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,639
Speaker 1: this team and huge for him. Yeah, and that's what

426
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 1: they talk about. Sean mcfay talks about this all the time.

427
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 1: When things happen, don't blink, you know, keep working at

428
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,159
Speaker 1: it and talking to John Johnson. We did a feature

429
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 1: on him from behind the Grind during the offseason program

430
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: or even before the offseason program, I guess I should say,

431
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: and he was down in Carl's Bad, you know, down

432
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 1: your San Diego working out at Exos, and we when

433
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 1: we did our interview with him, he was talking about

434
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 1: being in the Eagles game last year, and that's when

435
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about they're going at him early with Trey Burton.

436
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,639
Speaker 1: I think Zach Ertz was hurt that game. Who with

437
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: Brent Selex so yeah, but well whoever the two tight

438
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 1: ends where Trey Burton I remember, got a touchdown catch,

439
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,719
Speaker 1: but he was basically John Johnson was basically saying, you know,

440
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: there was a certain point in that game where I

441
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,719
Speaker 1: felt like I was losing the game for us, And

442
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're talking about. He had to

443
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 1: kind of separate himself a little bit, get mentally back

444
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: in it, and then say all right, no, I know

445
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,399
Speaker 1: I got this, I know I can do this, and

446
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 1: then he did that. I think where he has now

447
00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,200
Speaker 1: taken a step is he doesn't necessarily feel like I'm

448
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: losing the game, you know what I mean, Like, it's

449
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: more all right, I've got this, I know what I'm doing.

450
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: I've got type coverage. You know, sometimes they're just gonna

451
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 1: make a play, but I've got to go make a

452
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 1: play too, and that's what he did. If there's just

453
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 1: a realization as a defender sometimes that you kind of

454
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 1: know they're coming at me. Their whole game playing right

455
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 1: now is to defeat me or beat me. And they

456
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,359
Speaker 1: think that they have a pigeon a mark, somebody they

457
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 1: can make plays against. And that could be true. You

458
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: have to make plays to back them off. And I

459
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: thought that play was huge. It was that turned everything.

460
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: It may not for the play caller, but definitely for

461
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: the guy who threw it. Yeah, it may have changed

462
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,880
Speaker 1: his mind. Wow, that kid can make a play. Now

463
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 1: I can't go at him as aggressively as I thought

464
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: I could. Maybe I don't have a mark. Maybe that

465
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 1: guy is good enough to pick me off because he

466
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: just did it in the end zone right. Yeah, And

467
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: it was an underthrown pass. It wasn't underthrown. Yes, a

468
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: good pass. Maybe Cook makes a play. Maybe it's a

469
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: PBu a great pass. Cook did have position that might

470
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: be a touchdown maybe, but you're in position, you made

471
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 1: the play. Great play. Well. I was talking to JB.

472
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: Long yesterday and he said that when he was talking

473
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: to John Johnson, Johnson told him that, you know, I

474
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 1: felt like I could have made that play even if

475
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: it was a better thrown ball. Yeah, I mean it

476
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: would have been tough. That's a tall receiver that probably

477
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: jumps over your head to make that. Yeah. But as

478
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: it was, like you said, it was one on one.

479
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: It was quarterback and receiver who felt confident they could

480
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: beat you, and you picked them. Yeah, that changed everything.

481
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: It definitely did. Looking at the defensive line, Aaron Donald

482
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 1: pretty hard on himself after the game when he was

483
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 1: talking to reporters. What did you see from him on film?

484
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: What did he say? He was basically saying that I

485
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: don't I don't feel like I played up to my

486
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: standards because I didn't do blah blah blah. Okay, that's fair. Yeah, yeah,

487
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: that's fair. I mean but look, you have to go

488
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: back and look at everyone who's played every defensive tackle

489
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: or anybody that lines up where Donald plays playing against

490
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: that offensive line. Most of them get rag doll and

491
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: punked and thrown around and just beat senseless in there. No,

492
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: he was given as good as he was taken. Well.

493
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,160
Speaker 1: The play where he was called for roughing the passer.

494
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he absolutely destroyed assimilar and that is a

495
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 1: very good player and you never hear that. No, you

496
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: never hear someone destroying way I know. And this is

497
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 1: a guy who had no camp, right, that was his

498
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: first snap in football this season, and he's going against

499
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: one of the best and just ripped him like, just

500
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: tossed him like a little rag doll. I imagine what

501
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: he's going to be in a month, right with with

502
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: practice and games and all this sort of stuff. So

503
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: I think you'll start to see her return to dominance

504
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 1: very soon. Because I think this is very a fair

505
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: comment to make that offensive line is the best you're

506
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: going to see for the next month. Really think that's

507
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: a really good offensive line. Yeah, it definitely is. Even

508
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: um Colton Miller, I thought he did a decent job.

509
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: He was called for a holding penance he once or twice,

510
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 1: I can't quite remember. Yeah, I think it was easily easily, Yeah,

511
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: and I don't. I think there may have been one later,

512
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 1: but there might not have been. But I thought it

513
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: was good to see easily on that side of the

514
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: defensive line as an edge rusher, and he seemed pretty

515
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: productive to me. Yeah, it's when you have compromise knees,

516
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's not telling anything that we don't

517
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: know about Dominic Easily. I think he said three acls. Now, yeah,

518
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: when your knees are compromised, it's tough for a down

519
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: lineman to push off out of a three point stance. Yes,

520
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,160
Speaker 1: that's the first thing that's going to go. So where

521
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: can I put him to where he can still be

522
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: effective moving to the outside. You don't have to be

523
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: in the three point stands. Stand up, get some momentum

524
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: and then start your power rush or your your past

525
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: rush moves. I think he is incredibly tenacious. Wherever you

526
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: line him up, it's going to be painful for the

527
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: other guy, right whether or not he makes the play.

528
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: But Dominic Easley is a tough guy. When you say

529
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: he's got some dog at him, that is true with him. Yeah,

530
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: that guy is ferocious. I love having him out there

531
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: in uniform. You know what's funny. I really thought, at

532
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: least going into training camp that obo Okonquo would be

533
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: the one to come off the pup list and then

534
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: be able to play week one, And that's basically because

535
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: of the way the RAMS were describing his injury situation.

536
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: But after that foot surgery just did not respond as well,

537
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: and then you get easily back and then they say, Okay,

538
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 1: we're gonna put him at at outside linebacker, slash edge rusher,

539
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: what have you. And then he not only plays, you

540
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: know a little bit in that preseason game in week three,

541
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: preseason Week three against the Texans, but now you see

542
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: him in Week one and he's really productive. And honestly,

543
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: I kind of thought that anything you'd get out of

544
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: easily would be a bonus this year. But now I

545
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: albamalls start to be like, you can kind of count

546
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: on him a little bit. You can first and second

547
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: down and maybe some pass rushdowns. I mean, is he's

548
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: gonna give you everything he's got, no matter what. And

549
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: those sort of players, to me, set the tone for

550
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: the defense. Now you've got Donald, you've got Sue, you've

551
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: got the corners. We talked about everyone else on this defense,

552
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: but guys like him set the tone, a physical, painful

553
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: tone for the offense. It's just going to be nasty

554
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, yeah, all day long. If you bring

555
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: it here, this is what you're gonna get. So you

556
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: might as well try over there over there stacked too.

557
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's the guy you want on your side

558
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: in a street fight, for sure. Opposite um easily and

559
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: you sort of just brought this up. Is Samson a

560
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: becom Well? Great games? Yeah, great game four. According to

561
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: the box score, four total tackles, three tackles for lost.

562
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: One of them I almost thought was going to be

563
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: a sack, but I guess Carr fell down off and

564
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: trying to get a play action or so they took

565
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: the sack from him. Yeah, it was just a TfL.

566
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: I hate when I know when they petitioned the league

567
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: to take away no cowards, the Rams might be able

568
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: to petition the league to give to actually give him

569
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: the sack. Yeah, you'll be on hold forever. Happened before. Yeah,

570
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 1: I try to work. Yes, you'll be on hold forever. Okay, yes,

571
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: but they still could do it. Um, but they I

572
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: think they took the sack away in the press box there,

573
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: press box for sure. So they said it was a

574
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: run play. They called it a run play, okay, and

575
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: then just gave him a tackle for lost. Fair enough. Yeah,

576
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: he seemed a little bummed by that. All defensive we

577
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: all know it is. It should be a sack. I

578
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: think it should be a sack to our group, you know,

579
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback hunters of the world. Yes, my little society,

580
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: that's the Quarterback Hunters of the World. Yes, you guys

581
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: have like little hats. We have a union, absolutely secret

582
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: meetings and hats. Yeah, well they're not so secret anymore.

583
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: You're just not invited. Well, you're on the other side

584
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: of the ball. I understand why I would not. I

585
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: understand why I would not be invited to a secret

586
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: password for society. Right. But no, great play. I thought

587
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: he played tremendous football. I thought against the run he

588
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: really showed up. As the run, he was really really good. Yeah. Well,

589
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: and it's something that he expects, the coaching staff expects

590
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: for him to take a significant jump year one to

591
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: year two. And part of it is just the fact

592
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: that he's now had an off season. Last year he

593
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: really didn't, you know, because of the way the rules

594
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: work with Oh, if you're on the quarter system and

595
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: you haven't graduated, then you can't come to OTA's, can't

596
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: do there's mini camps and all these different things. And

597
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: then he gets a training camp and he gets hurt

598
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: on that first day that they're in pads, pulls the

599
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 1: hamstring and then you know, finally when he gets in

600
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: you can see that he's got some explosiveness, but he

601
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: definitely did a lot to improve just his body composition

602
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 1: in the offseason. You can tell when you look at

603
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 1: him his upper body is much more built. And then

604
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: also just learning the defense and getting better at that.

605
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: He's clearly done a really good job. He's starting to

606
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: gain a reputation. I mean with stuff like that that

607
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: goes around the league, like Arizona is definitely gonna take

608
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: notice of how he played. So at some point it's

609
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: going to be, right now, it's the guy that lines

610
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: up opposite Donald, or lines up with Aaron Donald, or

611
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: with Sue or with Michael Brockers. Pretty soon it's gonna

612
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: be you have to worry about Apocom out there. We

613
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: have to worry about how to block him and keep

614
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: out of the back. Okay, that makes sense. Yes, yeah,

615
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: it's not just he's he's not necessarily the player you

616
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: highlight yet. It's but you keep playing, you keep playing

617
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: like that, you will be Yeah. Absolutely, Let's turn into

618
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: the offense, because the offense maybe started off a little

619
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: bit slow, and I don't think we I a should

620
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: say maybe it kind of did oh three on third

621
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: down in the first half, and that definitely had was

622
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: a significant reason why the Rams only got off twenty

623
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: plays on offense to the Raiders thirty nine plays in

624
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: the first half. Do you think that had more to

625
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: do with the Rams sitting in the preseason or was

626
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: that just well they didn't have too much film on Oakland.

627
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Yes and yes, yeah, the Raider defense played, so that

628
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: first series that might have been play fifty for the Raiders,

629
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: that's play one for the Rams. That's different, it is, Yeah,

630
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: so the tempo, the speed of the game is a

631
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: little bit different. I thought the third down past to

632
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks was right there. It was. It was an

633
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: iffy no call. There was a lot of contact on

634
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: that comeback round. You could see at least on the

635
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: TV copy that I watched, where a lot of the

636
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: Rams sideline was reacting like there's a lot of contact here.

637
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: That that no call set a precedent for the rest

638
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: of the game because there was tight coverage everywhere. That

639
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: could have been a flag fest or let him play situation.

640
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm glad they let him play, but that could have

641
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: been a first down that kept them on the field.

642
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think the Rams, you know, once they

643
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: got warmed up and once they got their sea legs

644
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: under them. I thought the offensive line dominated. There was

645
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: zero pressure or next to zero pressure on Jared Goff

646
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: the sack by Bruce Irvan, he got loose in the backfield. Yeah,

647
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: one could argue that Goff needs to find a place

648
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: to go with the football or take off. I would

649
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: agree with that actually, especially by that point. But other

650
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: than that, I thought they were masterful. Run end passed. Yeah, yeah,

651
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean with all the stuff that they were asked

652
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: to do, changing tempos, some voice inflection, getting out on screens, pulling,

653
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: there wasn't a single prestat penalty on the offensive line. Yeah.

654
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: That's tremendous. And remember they were starting to back up

655
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: right in Austin, Blas So that's what I was going

656
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: to mention too. They did a great job on Monday night. Terrific. Yes,

657
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: And honestly, even that hold that got called on John Sullivan,

658
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: when I watched it back, I'm like, man, that just

659
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: looks like a pancake to me. Okay, see that now

660
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: that was the umpire because I believe they called a

661
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: simile for holding when he pancake. Michael Brockers, that was

662
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: a twist and a slam, but he got call for holding. Yeah,

663
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: so Sullivan does almost the same thing. Well, the same

664
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: umpire has to make the same call. Okay, yeah, you

665
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: gotta call it fair. Yeah, so I get it. You

666
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: plead your case. Hey, look that's just a normal block.

667
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: But tonight he's calling that holding. Yes, at least he

668
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: called it both sides. I guess that's true. But that play,

669
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: that holding call, really I thought deilled what was going

670
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: to be a really good rushing drive for Todd Gurley,

671
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: who actually finished with over one hundred yards on the ground,

672
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: which when I looked at that after the game, I

673
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: was kind of like, whoa Because he had four carries

674
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: for nineteen yards in the first half, which is good,

675
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: that's a four point eight yard average. But when you

676
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: look at it, then you say whoa. Like the Rams

677
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: really did get the ground game established in that second half,

678
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: and Gurley ends up with one hundred and forty seven

679
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage and a touchdown because the Rams were

680
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: able to get in a rhythm and get play. He

681
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: set the tone. You laughed at me or looked at

682
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: me funny when I was comparing him to a knife,

683
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: I didn't look at you funny. Because they didn't understand.

684
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: I told you he was a woman. Now this once

685
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: he turned it up and started bringing it on the Raiders,

686
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: he was leaving bodies in his wake. Literally he did. Yeah,

687
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: that's the guy in that. But that's what I was

688
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: talking about. This. He's never going to be better than

689
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: what he is. Now, use it, Use it against the Raiders,

690
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: use it against Arizona. I think you set the tone

691
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: with thirty yes every time out, and he is running

692
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: for leather. Hell, bet for leather right now. Well, look

693
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: that's a that's why he got paid and B that's

694
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: why you only have two running backs active on game day.

695
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: And that's something that we were a little bit surprised by.

696
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: No John Kelly, No, Justin Davis active for game day.

697
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: But look, when Todd Gurley is gonna get I think

698
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 1: about ninety percent of the snaps and then you have

699
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown in there for four or five snaps and

700
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: they were great, Yes, great, four or five, very productive

701
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: on each one of those steps. Yeah, what the heck

702
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: else do you need another running backup for? Well, that

703
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: whole conversation when we were trying to figure out which

704
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: running backs we're going to stay on this football team.

705
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: And we said Malcolm Brown is the perfect backup to

706
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. And you saw exactly why Todd needs a

707
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: couple of plays off. Malcolm comes in and runs the

708
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: ball with power and great hands out of the backfield

709
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: on a play called for him. Yes, tremendous, perfect. Yeah,

710
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: that's what it called for. That's what the backup tailback

711
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: needed to be for Todd Gurley. But using Todd early

712
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: to set the tone and having success running the football

713
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: will set everything else up, play action, passing, all the misdirection.

714
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: Plus it'll set up more runs for Todd. Yes, he

715
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: keeps gaining momentum because I guarantee you this, for the

716
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: most part, if you keep giving the ball to Todd Gurley,

717
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: the defense will wear out before he does. Yeah, and

718
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: I thought, I think you saw that in the fourth

719
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: quarter against the Raiders. Yeah, they were getting worn down

720
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: and he was just getting started. And that's really that's

721
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: the benefit of having somebody like Todd Gurley paired with

722
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: somebody like Sean McVay who can be creative and who

723
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: can get things done in that way. I really like

724
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: the sequence where they went right to Todd Gurley two

725
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: times in a row. On screenplays and the first one

726
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: goes for I don't know, four or five yards if that,

727
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: and then the second one goes for seventeen because they're

728
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: doing a second down blitz, and the call is perfect.

729
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Caught him exactly because it was you know, when I

730
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: was sitting there in the press box, I just thought, Wow,

731
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: like mcvay's getting getting guntherer on one of these app

732
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: Bet you don't think I'll call us again? Here we go? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

733
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: It's like boxing when you see a guy through a

734
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,479
Speaker 1: combination and it seems like the other guy just knows

735
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: it's coming and counters perfectly. Same thing, okay, blitz screen

736
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: yeah immediately, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's great preparation and

737
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: great execution. I thought Todd's first touchdown, which is a

738
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: touchdown reception, which is almost unfair why because of where

739
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: he received the football. That's a darned handoff. That's a

740
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: pass that good for Jared Goff, right, I know, that's

741
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: probably the easiest touchdown pass will ever made. How far

742
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: to that ball travel six inches six inches in the

743
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: air and you get credit for a touchdown pass? Sure

744
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,479
Speaker 1: does you should petition to give that? That's actually true?

745
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: It was funny though. In the in the press box,

746
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: initially they announced that as Oh Todd really nineteen yard run.

747
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: I was like, Nope, that's a pass. That's a pass.

748
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: You gotta know, man, you gotta know, I said, as

749
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: soon as that play went off, up, that's a pass.

750
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: But the blocking up front, I mean the guys, everyone,

751
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: all five guys, but especially the guys on the right

752
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: had the block two people. They had at least get

753
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: a piece of their man that's on the line of

754
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: scrimmage and then get to the second level. Austin Blythe

755
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: was in the ends on with Todd. He sure was.

756
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: He was downfield and he got a piece of the

757
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: safety that at least gave Todd a shot to get

758
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,760
Speaker 1: in standing up. Ye. Tremendous, I mean tremendous. Play caught

759
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders. You should have seen the Raiders defense after that.

760
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: What was that? Who? What? Where? It was funny talk

761
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: see you both Todd and Jared Goff in the locker

762
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: room after the game, and yes, Todd about it, and

763
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, yeah, I knew we were going to

764
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: score on that one. I knew they weren't ready for that. Yeah,

765
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 1: because you've just You've never seen something like that before

766
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: from the Rams offense. It was. It was very new

767
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: and very crazy. I'm glad Todd is near Hollywood because

768
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: he's a great actor. Because when he went in motion,

769
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: he gave the impression of I'm so tired, and then

770
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he just turned on the gas.

771
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: I know, will He gave the impression like we did.

772
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: We did this one failed twenty two as well, and

773
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: it just kind of looks like, all right, I'm jogging

774
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: into the backfield and I'm gonna line up next to

775
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Jared and the shotgun so he won't be in single

776
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: information on first and ten and then yeah, yeah, it

777
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: was just you know, when Jared lifts his leg, boom,

778
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: turn on the speed, turn on the jets, and boom,

779
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: you're going about the opposite coordinator. That would make me

780
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: give you the finger from across the field. That would

781
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: I would be hot at that. Yeah, yeah, it was.

782
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: It was a great play call and it was excellent execution.

783
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: You can't run that play any absolutely. Um. The other

784
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: thing that I noticed from just the Ram offense, especially

785
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: in the first half, everybody's taking the jet sweep. Now, yeah, look,

786
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: this is I hate to go back to last season.

787
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: But okay, when Tavan was in the game, yeah you

788
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: knew what it was. Yeah, it's going to be some

789
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 1: sort of end around or some sort of little gimmick

790
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: play with him. Well, now that could come from anywhere.

791
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: Could be Cooks, it could be Woods, it could be

792
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. The Cooper Cup did he took He took

793
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: a care He took two carries for twelve excuse me,

794
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: two carries for sixteen yards. So imagine being an outside linebacker,

795
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: defensive end versus this football team. You're always on alert

796
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: for that right which will hold you against Todd Gurling.

797
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: That's exactly the point of it. And I think we

798
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: saw so many times Robert Woods come in motion as

799
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: if he could at any point take that jet sweep. Yes,

800
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: and now you know that because the Rams did that,

801
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: and it was that's just a brilliant thinking from McVeigh.

802
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: You put this on film. So first play of the

803
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: game is a jet sweep to Brandon Cooks and that

804
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: gets decent yardage. And then you have Cooper Cup do

805
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: it twice, you have Robert Woods do it at some point,

806
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: and you show Robert Wood's coming in motion. It means

807
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: that that has always got to be on the defense's

808
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: mind for every single play. Now he Sean McVay is

809
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: a master of defense, so he can pretty much figure

810
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: out your responsibilities. You can't really make a guy avoid

811
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: his responsibility on defense, right. What you can do is

812
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: make him hesitate. You can make him a little bit slower.

813
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 1: You can make him just doubt himself slightly, just enough

814
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: so you can either get the edge or get the

815
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: cut back exactly. It's it's just a complete mind screw. Yes, yeah, everything, yes,

816
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: but that's and that's the point, because all Todd Gurley

817
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: needs sometimes is that just that little hesitation, And that,

818
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: to me is why you see Todd Gurley take more

819
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: cares probably in the second half after Yeah, you've had

820
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of the mind screw with the defensive

821
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: line in the first half, so that they are a

822
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: little bit more hesitant to go after that. I don't

823
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: think they the Raiders bottled him up. I think every

824
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: single run play they the Rams got to where they

825
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: wanted to get to with Todd Gurley. Now, the Raids

826
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: made tackles. They're professional defenders that should make tackles. But

827
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: when you look at how those tackles were made and

828
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: where Todd's helmet was in relation to the defense. He's outside,

829
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: He's already outside of you, so he's won. Now, you

830
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: may have scored the tackle, but let's see how many

831
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: times you can make that same tackle on Todd. Eventually

832
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss. Yes, and you did, and they did,

833
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get out in the open field. Absolutely.

834
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting to me? And as I look

835
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: at the box score right now, basically you had five

836
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: skill players who were doing things and getting either getting

837
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: a target or getting a carry in this game. Todd, Gurley,

838
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods, Malcolm Brown. Those are

839
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: all and Jared Goff took a knee at the last

840
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: play too, you know whatever, But those are the five

841
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: guys who took carries. Those are the five guys who

842
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: had receptions or even had targets in this game. Is

843
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: that sustainable? Sure? I thought Brandon Cooks played a phenomenal

844
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: game that will translate to anybody's defense. He's just open. Yeah, yeah,

845
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: he's just running better routes versus the coverage given. So

846
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: he's getting open for getting open for Jared Goff and

847
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: Jared goff is getting in the football. I think that translates. Eventually,

848
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: those deep passes to Robert Woods are going to wind

849
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: up being connections, yes, not just misses or near missus.

850
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: So those are going to start to come around. Um,

851
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, if you can improve upon I guess the

852
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: drops early and some of those could have been bad passes.

853
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: The I'll say this, that one on the left side,

854
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: but I think you're referring to right when he hit

855
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: the dirt. Yeah, and that you know you're coming off

856
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: the grass onto the dirt. There's things going on. It's

857
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: probably not the best thrown ball, but it was in

858
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: a spot where only his receiver could catch it, right

859
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: where you all have three Raiders defenders basically around him.

860
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm with you. A degree of difficulty was up here.

861
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: It was high. But you gotta expect that Cooper Cup

862
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: will make that catch, can make right when you start

863
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: making those catches, those big chunk yardage. When you have

864
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: opportunities for big plays, if you hit on ninety percent

865
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: of them, well you can make the game easy because

866
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: they're open, they're there and there's no pressure on the quarterback.

867
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: You absolutely had the raiders, yes, yeah, but you just

868
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: missed on the play. So if you start to connect

869
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 1: on those, you're talking about big field flippers. Yes, yeah,

870
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: and you didn't have to use Ted Gurley to get there, right, Yeah,

871
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: then you can. You can use thirty to finish a

872
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: defense off in the red zone. What the Rams did

873
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: get was a couple of passing interference penalties, Yeah, which

874
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: was good to see from you know, that deep threat

875
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: of Brandon Cooks. I loved when GoF let the ball

876
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: go on those passes. He saw a man covered, saw

877
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: defenders back to him, and got the ball up and out. Yeah,

878
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: so his receiver could track it, yeah, for x amount

879
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: of time versus when the corner had a chance to

880
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: make a play. So all you can do is either

881
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: slow down or adjust to the football and let the

882
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: dB hit you and get the penalty. Right, It's all

883
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: on when GoF through that pass. That's Brady esque. That's

884
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: elite quarterback school there. Because you know what, if you

885
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: account for those yards and I think you kind of

886
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: can look excuse me, Brandon Cooks already had five receptions

887
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: for eighty seven yards, which is a good night, I think.

888
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: But then if you add that, that's basically like one

889
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus yards of offense that you can

890
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: account for from Brandon Cooks. That was a dominant performance.

891
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: So yes, I think that can replicate and translate to

892
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: next week and next and the week after with Brandon Cooks. Yeah,

893
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: that sort of production. The one position we didn't see

894
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: is tight end, not even a target. That's kind of

895
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: where I was going with that question. That has got

896
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: to come up. Sure, you got by the Raiders with it,

897
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: but at some point that safety valve has got to

898
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: present itself for Jared Goff, right, No, I agree, Yeah,

899
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: I agree. It was. It was interesting to see that

900
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: the Rams were pretty much exclusively in eleven personnel for

901
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: about that game. You look at it, Cooper Cup, Robert Woods,

902
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: and Brandon Cooks played ninety seven percent of the snaps.

903
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: I think they're only two or three plays good that

904
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: they were not in. They didn't have any preseason right

905
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: exactly Legs. Well, there was one play where the Rams

906
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: did go thirteen personnel that I noticed, and that's when

907
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: they tried to get Todd Gurley on that wheel route

908
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: backside after Jared Goff goes over to his right, and

909
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: that play was covered, soir, Jared goff throws it away.

910
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: That's a good play by the quarterback. M But you

911
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: had Tyler Higby out there for a lot of those

912
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: plays as well, and he was blocking did a good

913
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: job blocking him. Credit too, we give the old line credit.

914
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: If he's attached to the offensive line, then he's part

915
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: of that group. He had a great job. Absolutely, Yeah,

916
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: but I think you probably like to see Gerald Everett

917
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: a little bit more. He was only on the field

918
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: for a few plays on the bike. Yeah, I did

919
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: see him on the bike, all right, Well he was Yeah,

920
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: let's get hot, Yes, yes exactly. I mean that's still

921
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: it's the second round pick, and you want that guy

922
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: to be more productive in year two. He should, I

923
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: think have that chance. Didn't really get it though. As

924
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: my basic point here in this particular game, you need

925
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: that position to come up because at some point maybe, look,

926
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna have Patrick Peterson this week. Yep, it's gonna

927
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: be a little bit different receivers trying to get open

928
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: against that guy. So at some point that tight end

929
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: is going to be the matchup you want to exploit.

930
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: Like Jared Cook and the Raiders, that's the matchup we

931
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: know we can get. So at some point, the tight

932
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: end here has got to emerge. I would definitely say so.

933
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: Quick note on special teams, Johnny Hecker looked like in

934
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: all Pro. Two punts. Both of them were incredible. One

935
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: was fifty five yards bounced out of bounce at about

936
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: the eight yard line. The other was sixty two yards,

937
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: So two punts inside the twenty. I think he's in

938
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: mid season for him, tremendous. Yes, yeah, sorry, I like

939
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: it looks like it looked like you were about to

940
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: say something. I'd like to see less of them. Yeah, yeah,

941
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: let's have one or zero. Fine, Yeah, let's have him

942
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: warming up all games exactly. That's it. I'm down with that,

943
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: greg zero line. Also a really nice game. He didn't

944
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: miss that field goal or he kicked from the enfield dirt,

945
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: but still had four field goals, one from fifty five

946
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: yards out, also three extra points, fifteen total points for him,

947
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: fifty five from the dirt, from the dirt. Wow, it was.

948
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: That was very impressive. Wow, Yeah, that was. That was

949
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: a big time playing a big time situation. It's might

950
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: have been good from sixty five yeah, I mean that

951
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: crossed the bar probably five feet over the bar. Yeah,

952
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a strong But who who doesn't

953
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: know that Gregg's arline has a strong way the guy

954
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: can boo. I think everybody should, especially after the way

955
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: you performed last year. But really good for him NFC

956
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: Special Teams Player of the Week in his first game

957
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 1: back after I'm going through awesome back surgery, awesome season, awesome,

958
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, just tremendous. He's a he's an absolute weapon. Yeah, yeah,

959
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: he's he's a long range the weapon Johnny Hecker is. Look,

960
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: it's it's so sad, and I kind of agree with this.

961
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: You know, punters and football players. Punters being football players. Okay,

962
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: we can debate that, but when you talk about one

963
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: of the best players in the league, you have to

964
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: include him. His timely punts and where he gets them

965
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: out of bounds and how much he limits return yards

966
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: is just as important as anything Todd Gurley gives you. Well,

967
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: that's part of the RAM. That's part of what makes

968
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: the Rams great is that you can flip the field

969
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: with a guy like Johnny Hecker, and whenever you get

970
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: to a certain point on the field, you know you

971
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: have points. Because Greg's rline is as good as he is. Well,

972
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: every team sports. What they think is a game changing

973
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: punt returner. What's the point when Hecker's out there, you

974
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: won't get a chance. You probably will not. Yeah, even

975
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: if you have it blocked, well, it may be in orbit.

976
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: So even if it's blocked, well, they're going to find

977
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,479
Speaker 1: a way out before it comes down, or he won't

978
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: even give you a shout at it. So I think

979
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: he might be, like I said, one of the best

980
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: football players in the game. He just doesn't get that

981
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: name because he's a putterer right right. Well, speaking of

982
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: returners and great return men, the Rams are going to

983
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: be without theirs for at least the next couple of weeks,

984
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: as Farrell Cooper has suffered a pretty serious ankle injury.

985
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: McVay said the best way yesterday that the best way

986
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: he could describe it is that it's a pretty serious

987
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: ankle sprain and so he may need have surgery to

988
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: fix it. He may not, but that does put the

989
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 1: Rams in a bit of a bind, especially because Mike

990
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: Thomas also suffered a groin injury during that game against

991
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: the Raiders. So that's Mike Thomas is the backup kick returner,

992
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: the backup punt returner, as it's listed as Farrell Cooper

993
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: excuse me, Cooper Cup. But I tend to feel like,

994
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: if the Rams are going to use Cooper Cup on

995
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: ninety seven percent of the offensive snaps, do you really

996
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: want him out there returning punts? No, but I can

997
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: have him out there fielding, yeah, yeah, and just wave

998
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: it and say catch it, secure, catch, give the ball

999
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 1: back to the offense. Yeah, which isn't bad, No, it's not. Yeah,

1000
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: they can you have an explosive offense like this. Yeah,

1001
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: punt returns. I mean sometimes they're a luxury when you

1002
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: have great offenses. Sometimes they're a necessity when you don't. Right,

1003
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: that's your best weapon to move the football because your

1004
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: offense can't. Well this is a little bit different. Just

1005
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: make sure you secure it, give it to Jared Goffe

1006
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: and let them drive the field. Right and that Well,

1007
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: that's what it started out as last year. If you

1008
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: remember when Tavon Austin is this is the second time

1009
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 1: we've not mentioned him on this podcast. We had trouble

1010
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: feeling though punts and then they just said, all right,

1011
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup, you go out there, fair catch it, and

1012
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: they were good. And then they turned to Farrell Cooper

1013
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: and it just turned out that they found lightning in

1014
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 1: a bottle with somebody who had already been returning kicks

1015
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: for him. I hope he gets better soon, because he's

1016
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: I thought when he fielded the short punt, he told

1017
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: everyone to get away. Yeah, had the Peter Cole and

1018
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: he was great with it. Get away, get away, get away,

1019
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: and it bounced in front of him and he caught

1020
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: it to save the field position. Yes, smart play, not

1021
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: just a guy that's held been on returning for touchdowns.

1022
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: It's actually smart when he's returning. That's that's the mark

1023
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: of a smart return man. The unfortunate thing is that's

1024
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 1: the play where he was injured. It happens, Yeah, I mean,

1025
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: it's the game, but it was it was. I mean,

1026
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: when you list the great plays of the game, that

1027
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: might be one that gets overlooked, but I think that

1028
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: was as big as any big play in the game.

1029
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: Well because the Rams then went down in the field

1030
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: and scored on that drive, right, So that I think

1031
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 1: what you're saying is true. You helped maintain that field

1032
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: position and then you allow the offense the chance to

1033
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: go down the field and score tremendous play. Yeah, so

1034
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: that's that's something that the Rams are now evaluating is

1035
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: is this week goes along and people probably listen to

1036
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: this podcast over the course of the week. Later on

1037
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: in it, we will probably have a more definitive answer

1038
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: that's been said as to whether the Rams will go

1039
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: with an internal or external option for kick returning and

1040
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: punt returning. So we will see. Well, I mean I

1041
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: started going down the list of guys that are on

1042
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: the roster and whose return punts before, and the first

1043
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: guy that popped into my head was has Cooks ever

1044
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: returned brand? Yes, and he has, but I don't know

1045
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: if I would want to use him as a punt

1046
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: return right. That's the same issue that I would have

1047
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: with Cooper cupping out there. Yeah, I mean, I mean

1048
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: as far as a guy that's going to bring it

1049
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: up the field and actually take on a punt a

1050
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 1: punt team, I don't think I would want to risk

1051
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: my receivers. It's so important so fair catch field it

1052
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: give it to the offense. Yeah, what is interesting, and

1053
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: maybe this will happen, maybe it won't. But Joejoe Natsen,

1054
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,959
Speaker 1: who did return kicks in punts for the Rams during

1055
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: the preseason, is still out on the mark it as

1056
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: free agents. Wouldn't be shocked if you see him. I

1057
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: would not be shocked if I did too. Yeah, and

1058
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I was kind of surprised when I

1059
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: looked it up yesterday and that he did not latch

1060
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: on with anybody else. I almost said I was. I

1061
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: was hoping and happy for him. I hope this goes

1062
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: around the league, and I hope he finds a job. Okay,

1063
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 1: If not, I hope he can stay here. Yeah he's

1064
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah yeah, yeah, no, he definitely was. So

1065
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Arizona Cardinals a little bit. Sure,

1066
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: bring it um. I think, um, they did not have

1067
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: the best performance against Washington last week. I think, wow,

1068
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: that's pretty if this is nice Miles, Yeah, nice way

1069
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: of putting it. Uh yeah. A quick story though before

1070
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: we get into that, and I meant to start off

1071
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: this way. Steve Wilkes, who the Rams interviewed for head

1072
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: coach um when they ended up hiring Sean McVeagh. I'm

1073
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: back in early twenty seventeen. So I was at the

1074
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: Combine in February and walking down the hall back into

1075
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: the media center and Steve Wilkes is like ahead, of me,

1076
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: like pretty far down the hallway, and I don't know,

1077
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: he turned around and he saw my face and then

1078
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 1: like he turned back around and then he like doubled back,

1079
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: and then he started walking towards me, and then he

1080
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: was like, you know, he came up to me and

1081
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: he goes, you know, I'm so sorry. I don't remember

1082
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: your name, but I definitely remember your face from when

1083
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: I was interviewing and I talked to the Rams and like,

1084
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: you do the videos there and you're part of their

1085
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: media team, right, you know, I'm Steve Wilkes said, and

1086
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: I was like, of course, yeah, coach will he introduced

1087
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: himself to you? Yes, he did. That's always cool. Yeah.

1088
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, like I can't believe that you

1089
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: remember me. So that was that was really cool. Denzel Washington.

1090
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: Denzel Washington introduced himself to me once. Really yeah, the

1091
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: press box. I'm like, really, did you just tell me

1092
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: you're Denzel Washing? Okay, thank you? I didn't know, right right,

1093
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: but I just thought, you know, that was It says

1094
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: something about his character that like he remember me of

1095
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: all people. A year later, and you know, I congratulated

1096
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: him on becoming the head coach Cardinals. All first or

1097
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: new head coaches took it on the chin this week

1098
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: in the end of six or seven, whatever it was.

1099
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: It's it's it's rough, man. I mean, preseason can be intoxicating.

1100
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: You think you're better than what you are, right, and

1101
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: then when you hit the regular season, it's a little

1102
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: bit different. It is. Yeah, no matter what you think

1103
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: of Team A or Team B. Like, no matter what

1104
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: you thought of the Raiders, they played better than you

1105
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: thought week one. No matter what you thought of the

1106
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins, they played better than what you thought on

1107
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: game day. Yes, that happens, Yes, for sure. It's interesting though.

1108
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: There are wacky results I think all the time in

1109
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: Week one, and you know, we can maybe talk a

1110
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: little bit about this later, but the Buccaneers in the

1111
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Saints definitely a wacky game one right now, not getting

1112
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: too far away from the Rams, but I think we

1113
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: talked about this. Um, it's gonna be hard to get

1114
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: that job back if you're Jameis Winston. Yeah, yeah, not

1115
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: like that. You may not give that back to you

1116
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: because I saw some never mind, I just saw some

1117
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: different reactions out of the offense with fits around. Interesting. Yeah, okay, right,

1118
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: but just I say that because I think Arizona is

1119
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: better than what they played last week against Washington. Well,

1120
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: we're going to find out. We're going to find that out,

1121
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: especially offensively. But when you look, I mean Alex Smith

1122
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: reign eighty two plays Sam Bradford sam Bradford's fifty two. Right,

1123
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: So you could say that Alex Smith outplayed Sam Bradford. Yeah. Yeah,

1124
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: he was more accurate, he was more productive, more efficient

1125
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: with his passes than Sam Bradford was. So I'm not

1126
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: sure if Sam Bradford can improve because he is a

1127
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 1: veteran and he is who he is at this point.

1128
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 1: It could be that's who they are. It could be

1129
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: this could be a season long struggle for them. Remember

1130
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: there is Josh Rosen that's hanging around as the number two,

1131
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: and everybody's waiting for when he's gonna assume the number

1132
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: one spot. You know, if if Arizona looks like they

1133
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: did offensively last week for another couple of weeks, it's

1134
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: got to be sooner than better, right, right. And when

1135
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: you get to these situations where you have an incumbent

1136
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: or a veteran starter and a first round draft choice,

1137
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: how long does that veteran usually hang onto that job. Well,

1138
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: it depends, right, you know. I mean we saw it

1139
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Case Keenam got what six

1140
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: seven games, Yeah, and then they replaced him after a win.

1141
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: It always happens that way, so eventually that offense is

1142
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: going to change. So I think that's what you saw

1143
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: on game day, or at least that's what I picked

1144
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: up on on game day. No, I would agree with that.

1145
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: David Johnson, though, is back, and he's definitely a dynamic runner,

1146
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: and he's somebody that can really get things started, and

1147
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably try to feed him a little

1148
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: bit more in this game. No, Ironhead Hayward was a teammate,

1149
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: and God rest his soul, but you could rename Marshawn

1150
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: Lynch ironhead for the way he runs. I'm serious. If

1151
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: there's not a hole, he's gonna make one. Now. David

1152
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: Johnson is the exact opposite. That's like trying to build

1153
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: a stone dam and hold back water. I'm serious, you

1154
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: have stone dam and hold back one. Imagine you and

1155
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: I are trying to build a stone dam and holding

1156
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: up I mean, we have to do that fast, and

1157
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: we have to be coordinated. Yeah, if I make a mistake,

1158
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: or you make a mistake, the water's coming out. Same

1159
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: with David Johnson. If you miss, if you're trying to

1160
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: do somebody else's job, or you don't play the block correctly,

1161
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 1: He's gonna find a way to come out there. Okay,

1162
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: he can come out of anywhere, no matter where he

1163
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: takes the hand off or which way he goes to start,

1164
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: where he finishes is up to you as a defense.

1165
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: So basically you're saying that the defense has to be

1166
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: very technically sound. You have to be you have to

1167
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: be gap sound against him, because he's going to be

1168
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: looking for any sort of daylight and he's got the

1169
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: burst to get there. Yes, that No, I think that's

1170
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: for sure. Larry Fitzgerald still Larry Fitzgerald R. He's he's

1171
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: the goat. Uh, he's the best. He's he's he's immortal.

1172
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: He's gonna live forever. No, I'm serious, He's going to

1173
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: Canton someday that bust will live for You won't be

1174
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: able to tell the story of professional football without mentioning

1175
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Yeah, he's one of the best receivers of

1176
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: all times, and he's he's he's more than that. He's

1177
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: a football player. That guy will come down and chip

1178
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: on defensive ends and knock them silly. Yeah yeah, and

1179
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: then help them up. Yeah yeah. He is a complete

1180
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: football player. He is. Like you said, this is an

1181
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: honor to be on the field with a guy like that.

1182
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: It's just funny when there are guys that I grew

1183
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: up watching and that you are still playing. Mean, Tom

1184
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: Brady one of them. And Larry Fitzgerald definitely another one

1185
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: of those guys where I remember like playing Madden and

1186
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: you play with Larry Fitzgerald and you want Larry Fitzgerald

1187
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: on your team because you know how good he is

1188
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: and he still is such a high caliber player. If

1189
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: you've been in this Rams ride for twenty years or more, right,

1190
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: I bet you're finding it as funny as I am

1191
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: to watch Bradford throw to Larry Fitzgerald. Yes, Bradford was

1192
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: drafted to beat him. Yes, now he's throwing to him. Yeah,

1193
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: this game is funny. The business of football is hilarious. Yeah, yeah,

1194
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: that is pretty funny, isn't it. Yeah, I mean, it's

1195
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: it's just funny. I mean, look, you can go back

1196
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: a few years and just think about the way that

1197
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: this team had such high hopes for Sam Bradford. I

1198
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: mean even when I started this job back in twenty fourteen,

1199
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be the turning point year because

1200
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: they had gone out, they'd signed Kenny Bridge. Well we

1201
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: had another year, right, it was the turning point, right, right,

1202
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: But and I just it was my first away game

1203
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: that I was working. You know, we go to Cleveland, Yeah, yeah,

1204
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: And it was weird because it's my hometown and like

1205
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: I was covering a game in the in a city

1206
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: where I grew up, like rooting for the team and whatnot.

1207
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, Bradford goes down yep,

1208
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: and the fear immediately was his second ACL and it

1209
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: really it changed the complexion of that season, but also

1210
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: really the course for this Francise. It does. And I

1211
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: think injury after injury it has to get in a

1212
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: guy's kitchen at some point, no matter how tough you are.

1213
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: So I think, look, every starting quarterback stated goal is

1214
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: to win the game, or you wouldn't be a starter. Yes,

1215
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: you have that competitive drive. I think for Bradford, following

1216
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: that or in close second is staying healthy. Of course, right,

1217
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: you gotta make it through, right, I don't think that's

1218
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: in Roethlisberger's head. I don't think that's in Aaron Rodgers's head.

1219
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's in Jared's head. I think it

1220
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: might be in Bradford's head. I think he's a guy.

1221
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: Like there's many many articles about Sam Bradford being checked down, Charlie,

1222
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: he's very safe with the football. Yeah, I think that

1223
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: the health comes into play when he's out there playing.

1224
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: If he senses rush or heat or he gets hit,

1225
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: it's checked down. Yeah, it's either dumped the ball, check down,

1226
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: or the plays dead. Right. Yeah, Well, and that I

1227
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: think we definitely or I think you could see some

1228
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: of that last week when they were playing Washington, and

1229
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: it just the way sometimes Sam Bradford would let go

1230
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: of the ball and bass sails either a little bit

1231
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: or it's just not where it needs to be in

1232
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 1: order for the receiver to make a play because the

1233
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: rush is coming. Well, I mean some of those out

1234
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: routes he missed, and he missed badly on a few,

1235
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: and it just seemed to me like it seemed like

1236
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: the receiver was kind of schizophrenic. Like in practice, there

1237
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: were two different quarterbacks throwing the same route. One throws

1238
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: this way and one throws that way, so that might

1239
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,959
Speaker 1: have been a rozen route instead of a Bradford route.

1240
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: It just seemed a little bit off. Yeah. Interesting, whenever

1241
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: there's that's what. Whenever you have that veteran in the

1242
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: first round quarterback, there's all was going to be a

1243
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: little helter skelter on offense on game day. Interesting. Well,

1244
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: the other thing that I noticed in that game, at

1245
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: least from Arizona's defensive perspective, was it seemed like Washington

1246
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: was really trying to attack the middle of the field,

1247
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: maybe stay away from Patrick Peterson on the outside, and

1248
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: so they got Chris Thompson heavily involved Adrian Peterson I

1249
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: think had twenty six carries for about ninety six yards.

1250
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: Thompson is underrated. He's really underrated, and he was really

1251
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: a big factor at last year when Washington beat the

1252
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: Rams in Week two, as I remember, But I think

1253
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: that is going to be where maybe the Rams can

1254
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: also attack that middle of the field. He's going at

1255
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: the linebacker. He spun their own Buchanan into the Groom touchdown. Absolutely,

1256
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: he is He's a problem for anybody, Yes, But watching

1257
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: Arizona and the way they attacked. I mean it seemed

1258
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: like for the first half it was all either Adrian

1259
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: Peterson or Chris Thompson. Yes, and that was it, and

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Speaker 1: that was enough. I mean they absolutely took it to

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Speaker 1: him in the phone, and they definitely did. They stained

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Speaker 1: a lot of drives. They did not really allow the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals to get on the field very much at all.

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Speaker 1: I think they had something like five first downs and

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Speaker 1: maybe in the entire first half they barely played at all.

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Speaker 1: And Alex Smith was very accurate on his throws. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was very efficient everything. Even when there was nothing there,

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Speaker 1: he at least advanced the football scrambling exactly. Yeah, he

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01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: just kept the pressure on the defense. That's his game.

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Speaker 1: That's his genius. If you ask me. It may not

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01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: be the bomb, it may not be the big field

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Speaker 1: flipping play, but he's going to keep the pressure on

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Speaker 1: the defense by steadily progressing the football down the field

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01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: exactly now as I'm looking at my phone, because I'm

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: looking it up, Arizona had fourteen first half plays, two

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Speaker 1: first downs, thirty six toty yards, seven h three time

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Speaker 1: of possession. I thought some of them was wrong with

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01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,479
Speaker 1: the video. It went from first quarter to the middle

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01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: of the second like that exactly whoa okay, And I looked, ooh,

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Speaker 1: you guys didn't run that many plays. No, they didn't,

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01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 1: And Bradford was only three or seven for eleven yards

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01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: in the first half. Yeah, so you turned to the

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01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: other side of Whington forty four first half plays, twenty

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01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: two first downs, which is basically as many as the

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Speaker 1: Rams had the entire game against Oakland two hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty one total yards. And basically, I mean, as I

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Speaker 1: took notes when I was watching the game, Arizona just

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01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: didn't have an answer for the backs or tight ends

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Speaker 1: in the first half. Ball And there's not that many

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01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: offenses in the National Football League that can overcome bad starts.

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01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: Most of you get off to a bad start, it's

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01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: going to end that way. Yeah, you may have the

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: big comeback at the end, but it's not going to

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01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: be enough because of the hole you dug yourself for

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01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: yourself in the first quarter. So I think Arizona kind

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01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: of proved that. But good offenses can start slow and

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01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: start to build momentum like the Rams. Yeah. I think

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01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: you just want Girly to be able to eat in

1299
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: this game, though, and the difference in. I think the

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: way Jay Gruden probably called that game against Arizona, and

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01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: the way Sean McVay will probably call the game against Arizona,

1302
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: you're not going to sault away as much. Yeah, Nicknay

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01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: wants chunk plays. Well, if you and I are calling

1304
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 1: plays right, and we have certain plays in our offense,

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01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: like run plays that are just probing plays, we want

1306
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: to see if we can get this so we can

1307
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: get this later. Right, what happens if the probe play

1308
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 1: breaks for thirteen again? That's what That's what I say.

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01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened in Washington. All that worked?

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01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: Do it again? Yeah, Oh they can't stop the run.

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01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 1: Let's give him some major in Peterson. Yeah, Okay, now

1312
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: they're really in trouble. We'll give him Chris Thompson out

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01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: of the backfield. See how they handle that. Yeah, I

1314
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: would sort of expect maybe a similar attack this week.

1315
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: If you can run the ball, the most direct line

1316
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: to the goal line is a handoff exactly. If that's

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01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: working for five six yards of play, keep using it?

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Speaker 1: Why not? I would say so for sure? All Right,

1319
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: anything else that you've noticed about Arizona that you want

1320
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: to talk about we're almost sitting here for an hour already.

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01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: Really that will buy fast, I know, right, Yeah, I

1322
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: guess a lot to talk about. Um. Just you know, look,

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01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: I think the Sam Bradford factor, and it's with a

1324
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks. If with Derek Carr, same thing, If

1325
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: you let him know that his health is in danger,

1326
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: I think you get a completely different quarterback. Interesting, Now

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01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 1: the opposite's true. If you let him think or let

1328
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: him get in the rhythm, you're in trouble. Yeah. Yeah,

1329
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 1: if you let Sam Bradford feel like I'm fine and

1330
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: I can take this game over, he will. Well. Look,

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01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: Sue and Donald are going to be going against a

1332
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: rookie center this week. And you know, I don't I

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01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: don't mean to disparage Arizona, but you said this. Look,

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01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: Oakland's offensive line is probably one of the best the

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01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: Rams are going to face for the course of the

1336
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: first quarter of the season. Yes, so if you're now

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01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: going against this offensive line, you may see a little

1338
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: bit more out of Sue, out of Brockers, out of Donald.

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01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: And they have reps. Now, yeah, so they're getting up

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01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: to speed. So yeah, by game day they should be

1341
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: up to full speed. And they won't sleepwalk or walk

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01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: into a street fight. Yes, they'll come in swinging. Yes,

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01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: they definitely definitely will. All right, I think that's that'll

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Speaker 1: do it for this edition of Between the Horns. Guys,

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01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: make sure if you're coming to this game on Sunday,

1346
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: you get there early. Jay Rock is going to be

1347
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: a part of the pregame festivit that get out the way,

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01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: get out the way, They get out the way. I

1349
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: didn't know that really, Yes, yes, he would be performing.

1350
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,919
Speaker 1: Win is a song just called win or Win Win Win.

1351
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: I think you should know that. Why would you ask me?

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01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure. In my day, Jay Rock

1353
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: was a breakdancer. I'm just kidding. No, But that should

1354
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: be fun. That should be definitely really fun. So be

1355
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: sure to come out and rock the Ram's House as

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Speaker 1: the Rams face the Cardinals in their home opener. So

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Speaker 1: for DeMarco farr A, Miles Simmons, thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: this edition of Between the Horns. We'll see you next time.