WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #44 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:02.880 Also media. 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:12.360 This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.240 newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.239 and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.239 and joined by James Stout and Sophie Lichterman. This episode, 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.200 we are covering the week of November twenty fourth to 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:28.200 December fourth, an extra long week. Somehow they squeezed a 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.360 few more days in there to open us up. James, 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:33.879 what are some what are some important small stories we 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:34.800 don't want to overlook? 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:39.239 Okay, yeah, yeah, a lot because of our extra long week, right, Yeah. 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:44.960 The United States is flying manned ISR flights over Nigeria 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:47.559 and possibly parts of the Sahel as well. It's not 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.080 entirely clear because the flights kind of go dark once 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.240 they take off. Sources familiar with the matter have suggested 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:57.280 that you AV strikes might begin soon. It seems that 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.720 the ISR flights are targeting ISWAP and j and I. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.000 I'm gonna write about this on my Patreon, probably because 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.280 I think it requires visuals and I think it's it's 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:06.720 too much to go into in depth here, But if 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:07.760 you want to check that out, you can. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.360 Can you explain some of those acronyms. 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.959 No, I just love to fight. It's great when you 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:18.759 report on military ship because it's just a wall of acronyms. Okay, 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.920 IR flights, These are intelligence flights, right, intelligence surveillance reconnaissance. 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:25.760 I believe it's an acronym. They're looking for stuff for 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:30.240 ua V. On manned aerial vehicle, there's a gender neutral 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:36.200 term and I can't remember unpiloted aerial vehicle walk is 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.880 back hard. That's the bid nearer thing, right when you 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:42.440 get killed by an n agatable drone. But it's gender neutral. 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.960 The it's what that's the Islamic State willie in that 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.720 part of the world, so like Province, West Africa Province. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:50.720 I think it stands for. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:52.680 These are the targets of these flights and. 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.240 Strikes and Jay and I am being another jahardest group 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.600 that is not associated with the so called Islamic State. 0:01:58.840 --> 0:01:59.240 Got it? 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:00.560 Got it? Wow? 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.840 Yeah? Okay, hit you with another acronym, A foyer. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.360 I think I think we know that. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.320 One fire by the Cato Institute has revealed that the 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.800 FBI under Biden was investigating the SRA that's a socialist 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:17.760 rifle association. It didn't bring charges against any of the members, 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:21.480 but it did apparently investigate him for some time. Finally, 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.440 the National Park Service has announced a new fee schedule 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:28.440 and quote unquote modernized graphics for passes. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:30.800 Is this the horrific image you sent us? 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.760 Yes, it's a picture of Donald Trump. Yeah, that's how 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:37.679 they've modernized it. It's it's not very nice. I I 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.960 know there are better things in the parks. I feel like, like, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:45.279 you know, half Dome is nice. The Yosemite Valley, Yeah, 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.600 pretty cool. Shit in wrangle sint Elias that you could 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:49.160 do instead. 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:53.799 That's like him trying to rename that East Institute after himself. 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:58.280 He just keeps trying to put his face and name 0:02:58.600 --> 0:02:59.920 on everything. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.160 Yeah. Well, when you're a dying man, legacy becomes very important. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:09.519 Yeah, yeah, exactly, But that's exactly it. The US Institute 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:11.560 of Peace is being renamed for Trump. 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:17.880 Really Yeah, oh I know, I miss that. Great cool. 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.359 It's feeling very similar to that, whether he's just putting 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:23.120 his face and name on everything. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:27.839 Yeah. So two things, right, electronic passes for parks its 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:32.200 phoby a good thing, and a hundred dollars up charge 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.840 for non United States I think it's residents as opposed 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.400 to citizens in the eleven most popular parks. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:39.520 How can they even check that? 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.840 I might just ask like this, this sounds like a 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:44.800 tourism thing, right, like they just wanted people to that 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.920 are like visiting the States to pay more. 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.360 To be clear, other countries do this. I still think 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.640 it's bad. Like some of the Grand Canyon is part 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.800 of a cultural patrimony of all of humanity. Yeah, the 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.920 National Park Service itself is an exercise in set colonialism. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:00.760 But we can talk about that forever. Yeah, I've seen 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.120 some stuff with gate ranges, be like, I'm absolutely not 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.400 asking for your green cord. Yeah, no, that's silly fear ranges. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.400 But yeah, I think they were just kind of assuming 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.200 good faith. A lot of other countries do do this, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.120 It's not unusual. I still think it sucks. There's also 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.600 an interagency pass. It's two fifty for non residents and 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.800 eighty dollars for residents. So those are they're the big 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:21.480 changes there. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.159 Speaking of big changes, a pretty big update in a 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:30.279 case that has lasted nearly five years. This morning, Thursday, 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:33.919 December fourth, a suspect was arrested in connection to the 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:37.400 pipe bombs placed around the Capital the night before January sixth, 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.800 specifically at the DNC and RNC headquarters in Washington, d C. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.840 This suspect has been identified as thirty year old Brian 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:50.400 Cole Junior, from a Woodbridge, Virginia. Federal law enforcement sources 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.120 have told The New York Posts that the suspect may 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:59.120 have had quote unquote anarchist leanings unquote. This could mean anything, right, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.680 This could be anything from like anti government, violent extremism 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:07.960 like militia movement type extremism, boogaloo boys, accelerationist, as well 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:11.599 as possible left wing anarchist leanings. Sure, it could be 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:14.919 any number of things. There's still very limited information about this. 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.119 Even in the like boj press conference that just wrapped 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.800 up a few minutes before we started recording. They're being 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.279 pretty tight left about details. And I think about his gait, well, yes, 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:29.280 people are asking about his gait. And allegedly he had 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:35.240 begun building explosive devices in twenty nineteen. Okay, okay, So 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:40.359 like some some background, This arrest does partially discredit a 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.760 report from The Blaze, which Robert has talked about on 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:46.159 this show before, which falsely identified a former Capitol police 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:49.839 officer as the bomber based on gate analysis. 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.880 Yeah, if they prosecute someone else, the Blaze is going 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.279 to get sued out of existence. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:57.760 So I would imagine the critical support to former Capital 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.880 police officer puts the Blaze out of business. Wow, pour 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.560 one out for Glenn Beck. But this suspect that lives 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.880 at a home associated with both their parents. It's unclear 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.560 if their parents are still married. Suspect's dad runs a 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:17.039 bail bond business which the Sun is supposed to have 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.159 worked for, and the mom is a real estate agent. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:26.279 Not much online presence can be found yet on Brian 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:30.640 Cole Junior. I've spent hours looking and so far not 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.160 much there. But we'll see if that changes over time. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.040 A developing story. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.200 Yeah, yeah, we'll do a whole episode if it marriage 0:06:38.240 --> 0:06:42.279 it later, I guess sure. Talking of terrible indictment, Garrison, 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.920 would you like to hear about a terrible indictment out 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:45.560 of Texas? 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:49.480 I'm going to say yes, but no, I don't know 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.600 if i'd like to for what reasons. I feel like 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.799 you're going to do it anyway, so I'll play along. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.200 Two Texas men have been indicted for a plan to 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:01.320 invade a small island off Haiti, kill all the men 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.600 and sexually enslave all the women and children. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.080 What I'm sorry? What? 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:10.040 Yeah, this is this is a wild one. The indictment 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:13.120 says they we hope to quote lead an unlawful expeditionary 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.280 force to the island of Gonave, which is part of 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.760 the Republic of at for the purpose of carrying out 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:23.520 their rape fantasies. Weisinberg and Thomas plan to purchase a sailboat, 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.560 firearms and ammunition, then recruit members of the District of 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:30.120 Columbia area homeless population to serve as a mercenary force 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.520 as say invader Gnave Island and stage Acudaita. Weisenberg and 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:36.480 Thomas intended to murder all of the men on the 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.840 island so they could turn all of the women and 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.920 children into their sex slaves. That is what is alleged 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:47.200 in the indictment. Right be an interesting case. One of 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:49.920 them had joined the Air Force in twenty twenty five 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.320 to get some military experience, or was in the Air 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.960 Force this year to get some military experience and has 0:07:54.960 --> 0:08:00.000 successfully been transferred to nearer to d C from where 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.360 they hope to recruit unhoused people to service merceries. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:09.160 This is absolutely insane. Who are who are these two 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.360 Texas men? Why do they think this is like a 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.520 thing that can be Like, all. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:18.360 Right, it's borderline something I considered not including because like 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:22.760 the people are probably pretty unwell. It seems like are they. 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:25.480 Just obsessed with like Eric Prince, Like I don't, I 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.440 don't understand. I don't. 0:08:27.120 --> 0:08:30.000 Yeah, Like if the guy hadn't passed all the background 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:31.720 checks to get into the air Force, I feel like 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:35.800 this would be less remarkable. Right, but while planning to 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:40.920 invade a small island and enslave everybody he got into 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:45.079 the air Force, that that in itself like like should 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.400 be a story. And of course it is all alleged, right, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.680 it's all in an indictment. We don't know what the 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:52.840 evidential basis for a lot of this is. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.160 Well, that was disturbing. 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.480 Yeah, it's wild one. I guess we'll keep you informed. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:06.720 What Garson Garrison I like, I like can't even compute, 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:10.280 Like that's one of the most insane things I've heard 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:11.320 in a really long time. 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:16.760 Well, first of economic news, let's has thrown to tariffs. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.080 Let's glow to tariff. Talk with me A. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:34.560 Rocky jazz rocking jazz boar Lock, rocky jazz, rocky jazz bock. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.880 This is me a wong with tariff talk. So obviously, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.760 the biggest tariff news right now is the impending Supreme 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:48.600 Court ruling on the legality of a broad swath of 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:54.400 the terroriffts that Trump has imposed using unbelievably dubious legal 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:57.440 and economic authority. And by unbelievably dubious, I mean it 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:03.120 is so patently illegal. It is an astounding demonstration of 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:09.000 the complete advocation of the Supreme Court's pretensions at being 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.400 one of the branches of government that this hasn't already 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:15.240 been overturned, But this is ruling has not dropped yet. 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:19.440 Everyone's waiting. So in the meantime, what we have is 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:22.440 a bunch of Trump administration officials have been going on 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:27.160 TV and talking about trade policy, and they're saying something 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.040 that we've been hearing for a while now, which is 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.240 that they believe that they can use different set of 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:37.120 legal authority to impose the same tariffs. Whether they can 0:10:37.160 --> 0:10:39.680 do this or not, is I mean, they shouldn't be 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.160 able to do this, like all of that, All of 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.959 the authority they're using is pretty ridiculous, But this has 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.800 been This has been their strategy. They've been reiterating their strategy. 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.000 On the other side, we've seen some interesting movement in 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:55.720 terms of the opposition, which is that Costco has become 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.640 sort of the biggest company to join in this trend 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.240 of company he's like going to court with lawsuits to 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:06.200 try to recoup the money that they've spent on these tariffs, 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:10.880 because if the Supreme Court ruling like overturns the legality 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.880 of these terriffs, these companies can get their money back retroactively. 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.920 Costco is the biggest company we've seen so far short 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:19.040 of moved to attempt to do this remedy to the courts. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.840 So we will, we will, we will keep an eye 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.160 on this. And this is you know, I think I think, 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.160 especially if this comes overturned, we're going to see a 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.600 lot of companies trying to make moves for this. This 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:30.040 is something that is going to piss off the Trump 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.960 administration because they've been talking a giant game about how 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.920 oh these are going to fund the like two thousand 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.959 dollars tariff checks you're never getting Trump is literally talking 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:40.679 about And this is the you know, this is an 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.240 old sort of right wing thing. But he's talking about 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:47.640 how oh, terriff's revenue is going to replace income tax, 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.800 which no, it's not like I just nonsense, gibberish numbers 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.280 don't work. Orders the magnitude off just nonsense can't work. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:57.520 But you know this is there. These are things that 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.000 they're saying, and there's probably going to be increasing conflict 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.360 between the sectors of capital that just want their money 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.600 back from these tariffs and the Trump administration, which you know, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.920 wants there's money for its you know, nebulas political purposes. 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:12.360 There's been some sort of interesting political developments in terms 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:16.320 of Trump and Lula. So people will probably remember from 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:18.839 listening to the show that there have been very very 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.960 high turiffs on Brazil that are effectively political tariffs for 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:28.920 actually putting one gi Air Bolscenaro in prison for you know, 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:32.080 the mere crime of attempting to overthrow the government to 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:36.719 install himself as the ruler of Brazil. Now there has 0:12:36.920 --> 0:12:40.400 been over the past few weeks there's been some sort 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.559 of ratcheting down of a lot of the tariffs. There's 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.240 been a bunch of goods that have been exempt from 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.760 the teriffs as part of Trump's sort of widespread efforts 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.440 to like lower food prices because there's a bunch of 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:53.839 food goods that are being exempt from this stuff. And 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.280 there was also very recently we got an actual call 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.600 between Trump and Lula which seems to have gone fairly well. 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.000 You know, at least this seems to have been cordial. 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.200 The two seem to both be coming out of it 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.680 saying like, oh, we agree on things. It's gonna go great. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.439 And this is to a large extent, an attempt to 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:11.640 do a replay of Lula's positive relationship with the Bush 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.320 administration the last time he was in power where and 0:13:14.360 --> 0:13:16.800 this is you know, this has been a trend in 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.200 the in the sort of the original pink tide and 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:22.520 in this government where you have a kind of mix 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.199 of the sort of pink tie center left governments in 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:28.720 Latin America, where you know, Lula has traditionally been the 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.400 one who's been sort of playing with the US more. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.000 And you know, as we're saying, right now, you have 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:40.880 the US gearing up for, you know, like potentially a 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:44.559 war in Venezuela, and there's been a whole bunch of 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:47.280 conflict with Columbia. But Lula seems to be trying to 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:50.840 sort of play the role that he played in the 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:55.439 two thousands. We'll see how that goes. Trump is astonishingly 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:59.679 significantly more unstable than George W. Bush, which is just 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:05.480 good lord, oh god, Okay, with enough, Oh my god. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.640 They finally found a president who is less coherent and 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.440 more unhinged than George W. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:11.560 Bush. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:13.400 The final piece of news that we need to touch 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:18.199 on is the US's chief trade negotiator gave an interview 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.040 with Politico. And this is Perya who news basically talked 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:26.000 to Politico and told them that Trump is considering, you know, 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:30.160 is talking about leaving or renegotiating the USMCA, which is 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:34.800 the trade agreements that he negotiated to replace NAFTA in 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.040 twenty twenty. Roll this back again. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.400 This is his deal. He's talking about leaving or renegotiating 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:41.440 his deal. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:43.560 This was his big thing in twenty twenty, is big. 0:14:43.600 --> 0:14:45.480 One of his big things was oh I abolished NAFTA. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:46.720 Oh I created this deal. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:48.400 And you know, i'veyone at the time was like, well, 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.120 this is just like NAFTA with like the edges filed off, 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.120 you know, but like this is sort of the point 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.320 that we're at in Trumpian trade policy. Where it's like, ah, 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:58.800 we're getting ripped off by Mexico and Canada in the 0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:02.200 trade deal that I signed. And as Garrison is fond 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:04.280 of saying the defining political question of our time as 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.800 he was president in twenty twenty, brother, you you did this. 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.440 This this, this was your trade deal. And somehow, somehow 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.520 now you know into interests of real terms, right, this 0:15:15.640 --> 0:15:19.440 is actually a massive deal. So this deal has a 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.520 six year term. It was negotiated in twenty twenty, which 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.840 means just coming up next year. And this is a 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.400 big enough deal that there's already sort of a full 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.400 court press and the press. You can see the New 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.560 York Times running it where every single faction of capital 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.320 ni vesicle fashion, but a whole bunch of factions of 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.520 the capital are getting every single think tank and lobbying 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.160 group and you know, like Policy Research Institute or whatever 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.160 together to be like, please don't get rid of this. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:46.200 Because the thing about the us MCA, and this something 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.200 we've talked about to some extent in terms of Canada 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:53.520 and Mexico tariffs. But one of the really important things 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.000 about the teriffs that have been imposed on Mexico and 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.880 Canada on the terrorifraces are extremely high, is that those 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:03.720 tariffs haven't been applied to goods that are covered by 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.800 the USMCA, And this has been a crucial lifeline to 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.560 allow trade to not be annihilated by those American tariffs. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.600 And if Trump pulls out of it and suddenly those 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.440 goods are covered by these tariffs, it's going to be 0:16:15.480 --> 0:16:21.040 a really, really significant economic hit for everyone in the 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:26.280 world eventually, but for the US and Mexico and Canada, 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:28.880 this is going to be a massive deal. And I 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.680 want to kind of close on a kind of broader 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:33.600 point about this for a second, which is that like 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.760 we're not pro NAFTA, Like no NAFTA was bad. Part 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:39.640 of the reason their administration was able to do this 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.400 was because of the ways that NAFTA sort of hauled 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.080 out and destroyed fast sections of the American working class 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.480 and also the Mexican working classes has not been good 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.200 for anyone really involved in this. One of the things 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.680 that happens if you if you go into the economic literature. 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.600 One of the episodes I did a while back talking 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.360 about US and Mexico in history of like trade policy, 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.280 they're sort of talks about this, which is that if 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.800 you go back into the economic literature, all of the 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.080 economics people have had to admit that the leftists from 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.520 the nineties or whatever were right that this was not 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.399 going to benefit the Mexican working class. It hasn't, you know. 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:17.159 But on the other hand, Trump's sort of this is 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:22.000 also not benefiting the Mexican or American working classes. Nothing 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.880 that these people do on either side really do. If 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:26.680 you want to look at what actual sort of resistance 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.000 in NAFTA looks like, and what effective resistance NAFTA looks like, 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:34.440 look at the Zapatistas whose rebellion was sparked by NAFTA 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.520 and who went into revolt on the day that NAFTA 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.320 went into effect. But Trump has been able to very 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:43.480 effectively kind of be the person who comes in as 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.959 I'm the champion of the workers, etc. Etc. Because I'm 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.840 renegotiating the evil trade deals and now like our good 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.760 American workers would no longer be exploited by like evil 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:57.119 Mexican or Chinese workers, which you know, has been an 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.560 extremely effective political strategy for him, and is you know, 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:04.359 also this sort of this sort of like national fascist 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:08.439 program that he's running is sort of based on you know, 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.800 on this kind of trade policy and on manipulating the 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.440 sentiments of people who got like actually screwed over by 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.399 by NAFTA. So yeah, that's where we're gonna kind of 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.520 close on this as Trump is thinking about pulling out. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.439 That is a huge deal. And yeah, this has been 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:24.000 teriff talk. 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.240 Let's let's go to an ad break real quick. We'll 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:44.320 be right back, and we're back, Harrison, tell me, tell 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.520 me something less horrific than what James just told us 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.000 before me as tariff textion. 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.399 I missed a pot. I missed a pot. Okay, do 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:53.920 you do? You want to guess how they were making 0:18:53.920 --> 0:18:55.960 money for part of this and coding to the indictment. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.760 This is the Texas many why's been made the island? 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:00.000 How are they making money? 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:00.560 Crypto? 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:02.040 No, it's worse than that. 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.680 That's a good guest, Sophie. Mm, but you've said it's 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:06.320 worse than that. 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.840 Oh no, manipulating camgirls. 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:13.639 In a sense it appears they were producing child sexual 0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:14.560 abuse material. 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:21.040 Oh yeah, wow, this is I mean, obviously it's still allegedly, 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:23.160 but like, this is one of the worst things I've 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:25.480 ever heard, and I don't even know how to react. 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.280 Huh. Yeah, he was he received. He was prosecuted under 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:34.919 U C MJUH for that previously this year. Yeah, I 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:38.960 was prosecuted in UH. I'm just reading a Task and 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.440 Purpose article which builds on the indictment. But they says, 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.680 so he's arrested in July and has since been court martialed. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:47.240 Ah. 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.280 So good times, good times in the air the Air Force. 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.639 Yeah, well, I can't. I can't believe the Air Force 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:56.800 has done something wrong. 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:58.360 Yeah, finally, the. 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:01.000 First blaze on our proud and Laurie is Air Force. 0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:07.960 Maybe the biggest national news story kicked off the day 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.840 before Thanksgiving, not just because of what happened, but then 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.480 all of the fallout that has resulted from this incident, 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.400 which James will report on afterwards. But let's go back 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.240 to the day before Thanksgiving or Two National Guard troops 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:24.959 from West Virginia on assignment in Washington, d C. It's 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.280 a part of Trump's crime crackdown were shot on patrol 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.880 a few blocks away from the White House. Other Guard 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.399 members fired back and tackled the shooter. One of the 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:38.480 National Guard members, a twenty year old named Sarah Beckstrom, 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.920 died from gunshot injuries on Thanksgiving. The other twenty four 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:47.399 year old Andrew Wolfe has so far survived remains hospitalized. 0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:49.040 Wow Yeah. 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:54.640 A twenty nine year old man, Romanula Locknwall is charged 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.520 with first degree murder and assault with intent to kill. 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.800 The criminal complaint alleges he shouted a la Akbar as 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.159 he fired. Lockawall came to the United States as a 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:08.920 part of Operation Allies Welcome in twenty twenty one, which 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.720 moved US assets out of Afghanistan as the Taliban gain 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:16.120 control of the region. Lockinwall was later granted formal asylum 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:20.399 under Trump. This past April, friend of the alleged shooter 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.360 told The New York Times that Lockerwall joined the CIA 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:27.880 backed paramilitary squad Unit zero three to earn money for 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:32.359 his family and get medical training, rather than for ideological reasons, 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:35.480 and when he returned from stints with the zero unit, 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.720 his personality changed and he was less socially outgoing. To 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:43.080 quote from the Times quote, Blockenwall told others in his 0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.800 village that he had been shaken by seeing so many 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:49.520 bodies and bloodshed in his role with the zero three unit. 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:51.000 Quote. 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.879 According to a volunteer who worked with his family, Blockenwall's 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.440 mental health started rapidly declining. In early twenty twenty three, 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:02.200 he began self isolating, withdrawing from work and family, stopped 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:06.320 paying rent, and face deviction. In twenty twenty four, this 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:09.320 volunteer wrote in an email to an immigrant nonprofit group, 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:11.600 which was obtained by the AP in the New York Times, 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:15.080 which reads that lock Andwell quote has not been functional 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:18.640 as a person, father, and provider since March of last year, 0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:24.440 twenty three. His behavior has changed greatly unquote. When lock 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:27.800 Andwell emerged from quote unquote dark isolation, it was to 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:31.400 engage in quote unquote reckless travel, according to this volunteer, 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.560 long seemingly pointless road trips across the country. 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:39.320 Yeah, and he seems to be behaving in a way that, 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.160 like you said, suggest he has some PTSD or like. 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:46.359 No PTSD from engaging in combat. This is very common 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:50.480 among veterans and mental health support for specifically these people 0:22:50.560 --> 0:22:53.879 in this in this paramilitary unit probably doesn't exist, right, 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.480 does not exist the same way it does for veterans 0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:59.240 of the United States military, which already is a lacking service. 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:02.280 Yeah, yeah, that, yeah, I mean these the ship that 0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.919 these guys did was dark. I've included in the in 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.240 the show notes a linked to Human Rights Watch report. 0:23:08.359 --> 0:23:12.200 But like, there's a reason that they weren't specifically under 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.679 In theory, they were under the Afghan like Ministry of 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:19.280 Defense Command, but in practice they operated outside either chain 0:23:19.320 --> 0:23:22.359 of control. They did kill or capture missions. There are 0:23:22.400 --> 0:23:26.800 multiple reports of them killing everybody in a house and 0:23:26.840 --> 0:23:31.679 then it being the wrong house, Like really, stuff that 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.679 is going to stay with someone, right and let unless 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:38.840 they're like, you know, pretty nuts, No, extremely horrifying, Yeah, 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:45.880 terrifying stuff. Pretty much immediately after, the Trump administration began 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:52.120 calling for various immigration restrictions based on this. Right Now, 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:56.200 it's worth noting that luck Andwell entered the United States 0:23:56.240 --> 0:23:58.879 as part of Operation Allied Welcome, right, but then he 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:03.879 received US asylum under the Trump administration, so that would 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.480 have been this year, right, Like, I'm not entirely sure 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:09.919 why he went asylum rather than a special immigrant visa, 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.960 but both the pathways that are opened to Afghan people, right, 0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:16.680 SIV has some benefits, but also it had some different 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.880 things so that they'd have to jump through, Like one 0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.240 of them would be a believe to get an officer 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:25.080 to write a recommendation and maybe CIA folks on into 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:29.359 doing that. So following this, the US immediately began to 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:32.120 call for a crackdown on Afghan migrants, and as we'll 0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:35.159 see more broadly on migrants. I think it's important to 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:39.320 contextualize this globally because it's part of a crackdown on 0:24:39.400 --> 0:24:42.240 a nation which has seen nearly half a century of war. Right. 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:46.400 Ninety percent of the ten million people who fled Afghanistan 0:24:46.440 --> 0:24:50.600 reside in Pakistan or Iran. I've reported on this before 0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:53.359 on this show, but Iran has deported more than a 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:58.320 million Afghan people since twenty twenty three, right, and they 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:04.480 have very few pathways to permanent residency anywhere. Among refugees, 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:09.000 Afghan people have it particularly difficult. On Tuesday, the us 0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:13.679 CIS Citizenship and Immigration Services issued a memo ordering its 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:17.239 employees to place on hold all asylum, green card and 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:23.439 citizenship form applications from quote unquote high risk countries and 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:27.000 to investigate all arrivals from them since twenty twenty one. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.480 They are also placing a hold on all forms I 0:25:31.600 --> 0:25:34.680 five eight nine, which is the application for asylum and 0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:38.920 for withholding of removal, regardless of where the person is from. 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:45.600 So we have this specific halt on asylum for Afghan nationals. 0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.000 That comes first, and then following that we have these 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.480 nineteen high risk countries. The high risk countries are listed 0:25:52.520 --> 0:25:55.480 in Presidential Proclamation one oh nine four nine, which was 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:58.360 issue back in June. I'll just read out the name, 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.119 so people who are aware, Aganistan, Burma, Chad, Republic of 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:09.200 the Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Barundi, Cuba, Laos, 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:14.720 Sierra Leone, Togo, Tookmenistan, and Venezuela. If you recall us 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:17.920 covering this back then you will remember that the reason 0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:24.600 cited in that proclamation is percentage of visa overstays. This 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:27.600 doesn't have anything to do with risk, right, other than 0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:32.200 risk of overstaying one's visa. They do not justify the 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:37.479 inclusion of these countries based on the potential for people 0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:41.560 there to do terrorism, right, at least not all of them. Yeah, 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.160 it's worth pointing out. I guess that percentages visa overstates 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.520 isn't that useful of a figure, because if you have 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:49.879 ten people and one over stays, then that's only one person. 0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.159 But it's also a ten percent overstay rate, right, So 0:26:52.560 --> 0:26:57.119 it doesn't look at like raw numbers. Nonetheless, this would 0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:01.960 mean from the way I'm reading it, that any application 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:05.639 with these people on it might be paused. So that 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:09.800 could include like if someone had applied to have a 0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:13.080 spouse or family member come over and obtain legal status, 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.000 right or if someone was sponsoring someone, or they were 0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:19.720 a duel national they're like a Borndian American for example. 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.960 We will see how long this lasts. Trump has previously 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:27.240 failed to get a total asylent ban, but for the meantime, 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:30.800 like this is catastrophic for people attempting to seek asylum 0:27:30.960 --> 0:27:34.159 or permanent residency in the US. The only sort of 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.080 upside that I can see on upside, but like you know, 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.440 not terrible thing is that I don't think this would 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.680 pause the work permit clock. So people have been listening 0:27:41.720 --> 0:27:43.880 to my series this week, they will have learned about 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:46.680 the work permit clock. Right, Because this is a government action, 0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:49.520 non action from individuals, I don't think it would pause 0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:54.000 that clock. I guess to just wrap up the migrant 0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:59.120 crackdown stuff, Trump announced via a truth that quote, I am, 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.520 as President of the United States here by terminating, effective immediately, 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:07.320 the Temporary Protected Status program for Somalis in Minnesota. In 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:11.800 the Thanksgiving message, he also repeated a number of claims 0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:15.720 about migrants and used a slurt to described him Walls. Yeah, 0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:17.359 he called him R word, and I think it is 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:18.840 worth saying. Yeah. 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:22.680 He has reiterated this multiple times on camera when Aspire reporters. 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:23.760 Yeah, great stuff. 0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:26.480 And this is specifically in reference to reporting which has 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.240 come out of Minnesota about a series of like fraudulent 0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:35.280 claims based on like COVID nineteen food and housing assistance 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.880 programs this state was running, and people who were abusing 0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:42.800 those programs for their own financial benefit, and some of 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.080 these specific instances are now being used to attack the 0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:47.360 entire Somali community in Minnesota. 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.960 Yeah, it's worth noting that the percentage of the Somali 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:53.800 community which is on TPS is very small. It's probably 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.480 a few hundred people. I don't know how those COVID 0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:00.040 assistance programs like overlap with once immigration status, right, but 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:03.360 it's worth noting that. It's also worth noting, like I've 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:06.200 linked to the statue in the show notes, the Somali 0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:09.680 TPS extends until March of twenty twenty six. It probably 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.160 won't be renewed then, right, that's what the Trump administration 0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:15.360 has been doing, is sunsetting TPS is for all kinds 0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.560 of people. The statute does not give the president power 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.800 to end the TPS, certainly not on a state by 0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:26.440 state basis. Right, Yeah, that's a good point. The notice 0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:29.360 of revocation would appear in the Federal Register, and the 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.520 TPS would then have sixty days if it was being revoked, 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:34.800 that people would have sixty days to act on that information. Right, 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.680 you can't just post it. That's not how this works. 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.960 As of today, when I check the Federal Register, the 0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:44.920 last entry for the Somali TPS with its renewal last year. 0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.440 So there appears to have been no actual legal action 0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.760 taken on this. But nonetheless there has been ICE enforcement. Right. 0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.640 There are videos of ICE officers specifically asking people if 0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:59.360 they are Somali in Minnesota, which is troubling. I think 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.640 that's about all the ICE crackdown stuff. I have guess 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.600 Greg Bavino's in Louisiana. No, So, there's been a lot 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:12.480 of discussion this week and House hearings about the drone 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.440 strike that began the United States campaign of drone strikes 0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.800 against small boats in both the Caribbean and the Pacific, right, 0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:24.640 so called narco terrorists jam, yeah, so yeah, I think 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.120 so called is doing a lot of work there. There 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.080 seems to be a lot of debate about whether Pete 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:33.640 Hegscess directly ordered a second strike on survivors from the 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:38.200 first strike. Excess had denied this, saying, quote, the thing 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:41.120 was on fire and it exploded. You can't see anything. 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.280 This is called the fog of war. 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.960 That's not the fog before yet. It's nobody means you're 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:47.680 not at war. 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.280 You're in a suit in a room watching a TV screen. 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:55.520 Also, it doesn't revert to like literal smoke edge fog. 0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.200 I'm sorry, this is like absurd. 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.840 Yeah, it's a ludicrous claim, right. Yeah. There have been 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.040 times where I have been in places like for instance, 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:04.760 I was in Java a couple of years ago and 0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.000 we were being bombed. Right the way for me to 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:09.400 get information it was better for me to like go 0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.480 online and find stuff because the access to information on 0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.360 the ground in conflict times can be difficult. That's not 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.240 the case when you're in DC watching a screen readout right. 0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:21.320 That is why we have people who are not in 0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:25.200 combat making these decisions. The White House has claimed that 0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:28.600 Admiral Bradley, who was JSOCK commander at the time, ordered 0:31:28.640 --> 0:31:32.160 the strike. Cotton today claimed that two people in the 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:35.160 video were trying to roll the boat to get back 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.800 in the fight. What that's not a thing that one 0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:39.880 can do. Like they're not in Just to be clear, 0:31:39.880 --> 0:31:42.520 they're not in like a kayak here, Like this is 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.760 in what I would call a cigarette boat, like a 0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.040 fast speedboat. You can't roll those like that. 0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:52.960 I don't understand they were not engaged in combat. 0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:55.760 No, Like I don't see any evidence that these people 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:59.800 were equipped to like certainly not to fight against a drone. Right. 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:04.240 No, why does this matter? Right? Because these people are 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:09.360 dead regardless. Yeah, Why does the emphasis on this second 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:13.880 strike matter more than simply attacking them the first time? 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.680 Why is could this result in haig Seth being in 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.600 a degree of trouble? Why are there so defensive about 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:20.400 the second strike? 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.800 Fair question. It is a very clear violation of the 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:26.240 US military's own Law of War manual, which I have 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:29.480 linked and the Geneva Conventions to kill someone who's demonstrably 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.080 or to combat right out of combat i e. A 0:32:33.120 --> 0:32:36.440 shipwrecked sailor, i e. A wounded soldier who's thrown away 0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:40.360 their weapon. These people were very clearly not fighting. From 0:32:40.400 --> 0:32:43.000 every report that we've seen, this has been part of 0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:46.640 the way that war is conducted for centuries, like picking 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.840 up shipwrecked sailors after sinking about, etc. I'm not saying 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.080 this has always happened. The US has done double tap 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:57.320 strikes for a long time. Yeah, there has been I 0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.240 should just clarify. I guess there has been some debate 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:02.600 about the Semana takes of the word double tap. First 0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:06.440 of all, that's not important. What is important is that 0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.160 they killed people who were not fighting, who are out 0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:12.360 of combat, and who are clinging to a burning shipwrecked boat. 0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:17.680 A double tap does generally refer to a strike and 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:20.360 then a subsequent strike which is focused on killing the 0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:24.000 people who came to rescue the people hitting the first strike. 0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.200 There was no one to rescue these people. But I 0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:32.160 don't think that, like, that's not what's at stake here, right, 0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.800 That is, it doesn't matter what term we use to 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:38.880 describe this other than war crime. There were double tap 0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:40.640 strikes at the time that I spoke about when I 0:33:40.680 --> 0:33:42.680 was in ri Java, where they did bomb ambulance crews 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:46.160 and yeah, that shit is absolutely reprehensible. But what happened 0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.160 here is also reprehensible as it's being recounted to us. 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.600 Eventually this video will come out, I'm sure. More broadly, 0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:55.719 the United States seems to be signaling intent to continue 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:59.400 its campaign against my daughter, saying it will begin land 0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:04.320 strikes uote unquote soon. What Yeah, like this is extremely worrying, 0:34:04.560 --> 0:34:08.440 right like, Yeah, tramp becourse a great peace president who 0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.120 has ended what is it like nine wars? Trump the Dove, 0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:15.440 I think is what you personally called perfect. It's a 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:19.160 hell of a visual. The people of Venezuela are the 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.040 ones who are going to suffer, right Like, It's not 0:34:21.160 --> 0:34:24.239 going to be the regime officials for the most part. Yeah, 0:34:24.480 --> 0:34:29.680 Venezuela's a vast, mountainous jungle country. It's an easy place 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.560 for us to do land war, not a particularly easy 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:37.400 place for US to do drone warfare either. You know, 0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.759 I've written a lot about the the United States Duran 0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:42.400 campaign in Syria and the disaster that was, right in 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:47.279 the amount of what they considered to be acceptable civilian casualties. 0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:52.000 We don't have any indications from this DoD or like 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.560 from hexth that like he will seek to minimize those, 0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:57.239 right like this, This could be shaping up to be 0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:58.920 a disaster for the people of Venezuela. 0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.520 I mean, yeah, I find it unlike that haig Seth 0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.359 will actually fall into trouble international law. Because of this, 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.520 people always get away. And I mean you can see 0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:11.759 how Trump already pardoned number of work criminals earlier this 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:14.719 year and in his first administration, right, and in his 0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.640 first administration. Yeah, as much fun as it is to 0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.839 be like haha, I like this. I like to see 0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.280 old pet hag Seth wiggles way out of this jam. 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.200 Yes he will. I think he's expected to do so 0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:30.520 quite easily. I mean, international doesn't exist for people in 0:35:30.560 --> 0:35:33.200 the global North. It's a thing that they do to 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.799 prosecute African people for the most part. But yes, very 0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:39.560 unlikely that we will see hag Seth in the Hague 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:41.399 for this. Still bad though. 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:44.520 We'll go on another ad break and be right back. 0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:01.439 All right, we are back. We would like to now 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:06.880 expand and clarify some of our previous previous discussion of 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:10.600 Zoron's White House meeting with Donald Trump and some statements 0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:16.440 around ice raids and ice detainers. Let's start by clarifying 0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:20.080 this one hundred and seventy serious crimes number. 0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:20.680 Yeah. 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.959 While answering a question, Zoran said, quote, we discussed Ice 0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:26.880 and New York City, and I spoke about how the 0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:29.640 laws we have in New York City allowed the city 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:32.480 government to speak to the federal administration about roughly one 0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.840 hundred and seventy serious crimes. 0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:36.440 Unquote. 0:36:36.480 --> 0:36:40.480 This one hundred and seventy number is in reference to 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:46.080 Local Law fifty eight Administrative Code nine Dash one three 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:50.000 to one, which was passed in twenty fourteen and strengthened 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:55.360 New York sanctuary laws and required that they only honor 0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.400 ICE detainers when presented with the judicial warrant issued by 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.560 an Article three federal judge or Federal magistrate judge based 0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:06.360 on probable cause, and when the subject of the detainer 0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.480 and warrant is either listed in a terrorist database or 0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:16.399 has been convicted of a violent or serious crime. Now, 0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:19.680 the term violent or serious crime refers to a list 0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:23.720 of approximately one hundred and seventy crimes, which is listed 0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:25.919 in Local Law fifty four. 0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:28.480 I think there's a five year limit as well, right, 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.040 Like it has to be within five years. 0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:35.160 So there's a number of like they like stack on 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.640 each other. Yeah, Like there's This is just a one 0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:42.200 of many like amendments strengthening their sanctuary laws. And I'm 0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.040 mentioning it specifically to clarify where one hundred and seventy 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:47.960 number comes from and where people can find all of 0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:52.520 the criminal codes that are listed, which is again approximately 0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.520 one hundred and seventy crimes. 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:55.640 Yeah, and the. 0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:57.480 Change this local law did is that this person doesn't 0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:59.040 have to just be accused of one of these crimes, 0:37:59.200 --> 0:38:03.319 but actually be convince or listed in a terrible stateabase. Yeah, 0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:05.520 and these are mostly like violent felons. 0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:08.359 Yeah. The law that Garrison refers to lists them by 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:13.120 penal code number. So I'm working on expanding those into 0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:17.040 a list of words that human beings can understand. Yeah, sure, 0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:22.080 just because I think people generally don't understand sanctuary protections. 0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.200 Sanctuary laws are not like a They're not the same 0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.080 in every state, They're not the same in every city 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.880 in every state, and I think a lot of people 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:32.840 have an understanding of them which could do with being improved. 0:38:33.040 --> 0:38:34.839 So I'm going to probably do a whole episode on that. 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.000 I think with regard to the list of crimes in 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:39.799 New York, I would prefer to do that as a 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:43.040 print piece, because it's just better if someone could find 0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:44.920 it on the internet, and that doesn't work as well 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.600 with podcasts other stuff regarding this if just so people 0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.960 are aware, right, like, federally, one could be deported for 0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:54.240 a huge range of crimes, from violent crime to thefto 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.160 over ten thousand dollars to a vast range of quote 0:38:57.200 --> 0:39:01.480 unquote crimes involving moral turpitude. The problem, of course, is 0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.480 that we have fifty different states with fifty different sets 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.560 of laws, and we have to map federal regulations onto them. 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.839 There is some Supreme Court case law about how we 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:14.600 do that. Crimes involving moral turpitude can be things that 0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:17.880 you might consider extraordinarily minor, like turnstile hopping. 0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:18.480 Yeah. 0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:20.440 I'm going to do a whole episode on these because 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.920 again I think you could see in that press conference, 0:39:23.920 --> 0:39:27.359 so when Zoran spoke about immigration, Trump tried to move 0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:31.120 the topic to deporting criminals. Yeah, and the people who 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:34.200 are being deported as criminals, whilst the DHS twitter feed 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.560 wants to highlight people who've been convicted of murder and things, 0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:40.200 and that's by far look at an EDU case. 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:43.160 Yeah, and I think that's why he mentioned the one 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.520 hundred and seventy like serious urvolent crimes, and like specifically 0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:48.600 that those are the ones that the New York Sentuary 0:39:48.680 --> 0:39:54.799 laws you do have this quote unquote cooperation on, and 0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.920 like in a meeting, Zorn said that he and Trump 0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.960 talked about how current ICE operations in New York City 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:05.319 I quote unquote very little to do with serious crime 0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:08.520 with these built crimes listed on these detainers. 0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:11.879 Yeah, and that's a broad thing across the United States, right, 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.319 Like even we spoke about this a couple of weeks ago. 0:40:14.360 --> 0:40:15.960 But like, if you look at Charlotte right where they 0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:19.480 have they are legally bound to honor all ICE detainers 0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.600 by HB ten, you've still got Ice out and about 0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:26.799 raiding people, and you have sheriffs complaining about Ice not 0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:30.280 picking people up right. The detainer, I guess I should 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.799 explain what a detainer is as well. A detainer is 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.319 an extra forty eight hour hold. It doesn't mean that 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.640 you just like lock them up forever. It means that 0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:40.439 you hold them for forty eight hours such that ICE 0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.279 can come in and collect the person. Because ICE is 0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.560 so focused on I don't know what you want to 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.200 call it, grabbing people off the street. Yeah, it seems 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:53.560 that they're not collecting these people. There's been some pushback, 0:40:53.680 --> 0:40:58.319 like on straight up economic grounds in some states because 0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:01.879 like detaining people is quite expensive, right, so detaining people 0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:04.400 for long periods of time and it's just not showing up. 0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:07.600 I can see how not to give support to sheriff's 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:11.160 departments or whatever, but like rural sheriff's departments, which are 0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.040 on limited budgets, would start to get pissed off after 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:17.120 a time about holding people. But that is what a 0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:22.840 detainer is, got it. Ice doesn't necessarily have to abide 0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.480 by local sanctuary laws. And what we have seen is that, 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.759 like cops are cops, and they will make mistakes, and 0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:32.040 if someone gets handed over, you can't take them back 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:33.920 if the cops fuck that up. 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.200 Yeah, I mean, And this is part of the other 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:40.040 things that Zaron campaigned on to like strength and sanctuary protections, 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:44.479 And specifically in the section of his policies on quote 0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.920 unquote trump proofing New York City, he talks about like 0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:51.440 ending illegal ICE cooperation on Riker's Island or ICE is 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:54.319 currently stationed, which does go against sanctuary laws, and you've 0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:57.080 talked about ending that as well as providing one hundred 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.680 and sixty five million dollars in funding for immigration legal 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.080 defend services in the cities, which would be a massive 0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.359 increase and what is currently provided. Yeah, as well as 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.000 just like limiting interactions with police, right is, the more 0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:11.279 you interact with the police, the more likely is that 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:15.280 you might accidentally or quote unquote accidentally get put into trouble, 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:16.719 even though you know, police in New York are not 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:18.960 supposed to ever ask someone that what their immigration status 0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:22.440 is or or cooperate with ice requests that do not 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:26.799 you know, fall under this specific container law. But I 0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.560 mean in terms of like ways to limit interactions with police, 0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.279 this goes back to some very basic ideas on like, 0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.319 you know, addressing the economic conditions that create crime in 0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.680 the first place, as well as the Department of Community Safety, 0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:41.960 which Souron intends to create, which will provide new mental 0:42:42.000 --> 0:42:46.600 health services, crisis response, and homeless outreach outside of the NYPD. 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:51.520 Yeah, like, not criminalizing homelessness and not criminalizing parking are 0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:54.879 probably two of the most meaningful things that you can 0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:58.839 do to limit police interaction and specifically police interactions from 0:42:58.960 --> 0:42:59.920 documented people. 0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.360 Yeah, and I mean in terms of like turnstile hopping 0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:05.319 or like fair evation. It's it's complicated in New York. Mean, 0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:09.200 this isn't gonna be something that they honor a detainer for. 0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:11.120 But in terms of like you know, just talking about 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.239 like the Yeah, how weird and specific each state's laws are. 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:17.160 Like turnstile hopping can be a misdemeanor crime in New 0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.400 York due to like theft of services. It can also 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.040 just be a civil in fracture. It can, but it's 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:26.360 up to the officer to decide whether they want this 0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.320 to turn into a criminal misdemeanor or a civil infraction 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.160 and just pay one hundred dollars fine. Even this is 0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.200 like cause confusion among like immigrants and immigrant rights attorneys 0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:39.200 over like dealing with like old old fair ofvation cases 0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:42.239 and being like does this now like disqualify me from 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.680 certain things or does this like you know, present a 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.759 threat of being deported if I if I declare this 0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:50.880 and like whatever like citizenship or a green card meeting, 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.280 they may they may have scheduled. Yeah, and yeah, not 0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:58.600 not criminalizing fair ovation would be huge. And if someone's 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:00.560 able to make you know, free buses that all, do 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:04.480 you know a considerable dent in preventing cases where ferivation 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:08.040 could be used as a pretext federally reports someone. 0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:10.560 Yeah, yeah, because that person or that person could leave 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.200 New York and be somewhere else, right, or they could 0:44:12.239 --> 0:44:14.360 just get swept up in ice workplace raid, and that 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:16.799 could be used as a pretext, like there are many 0:44:16.840 --> 0:44:21.080 reasons why even if it's sanctuary protected, that person could 0:44:21.120 --> 0:44:22.759 still be vulnerable because of that prosecution. 0:44:22.880 --> 0:44:25.239 Like you said, yeah, I mean, and then those sorts 0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.200 of raids are still happening in New York. An attempted 0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:30.880 rate happened in Connell Street. Yeah, last week. It was 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:34.160 prevented from being carried out by people who literally blocked 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.600 Ice from leaving the parking garage that they were in, 0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.920 and that NYPD then arrested a few protesters. It remains 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.319 to be seen how Zoron will handle incidents like this 0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:44.960 going forward. He still does not become the mayor for 0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:49.440 but thirty days, right, but a spokesperson for the mayor 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.560 elect has said that zoren Quote has made it clear, 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:53.759 including to the President, that these raids are cruel and 0:44:53.800 --> 0:44:56.480 inhumane and failed to advanced genuine public safety. New York 0:44:56.480 --> 0:44:58.560 City's more than three million immigrants are central to our 0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:01.719 city strength. Vitality and access the mayor Electromaine Steadfast and 0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:05.040 his emumitment to protecting the rights and dignity of every 0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.680 single New Yorker of holding our sanctuary laws. And de 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.720 escalation rather than use of unnecessary force unquote. I believe 0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:14.400 that last sentence could be read as in reference to 0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:18.680 the police conduct while handling antiites protests. Yeah, quote unquote, 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:21.680 de escalation rather than use of unnecessary force. But this 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.440 is not something that they have talked about much. 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.879 Curious to see when he's actually the mayor, what will 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:28.399 happen here? 0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.279 Yeah, Yeah, I mean, and that's that's that's a part 0:45:31.280 --> 0:45:33.520 of like what governing is going to look like in 0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.399 this case, which is kind of sure, it's hard to say. 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:38.160 We've never really had a high profile like you know, 0:45:38.280 --> 0:45:42.560 dsa person who previously advocated like defunded or abolishing the 0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:43.880 police become the mayor of a city. 0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:45.839 Yeah, And I. 0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:48.200 Think this kind of relates to like so much of 0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.200 what the project in New York is around New York 0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:54.680 City DSA and zoron to rather than just like you know, 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:58.360 be like chasing electoral cars and then crashing once you 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.920 have control. Igxort's orange like actually running the city and 0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:05.239 providing a legitimate example the democratic socialst policies can deliver 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.399 on promises for workers and improve life in New York. 0:46:08.120 --> 0:46:10.000 And if this project succeeds, it can be pointed to 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:13.600 and replicated by others. And there's a very strict focus 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:15.640 on like making sure that he's able to succeed on 0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.640 a section of like economic policies. He's not in a 0:46:19.640 --> 0:46:22.480 federal position, right, He's not running on abolishing ice, as 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.200 you can't as the mayor of New York. And like, 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:26.360 I think it's very unclear right now, like what a 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:30.080 politics of abolishing ice really looks like outside of like 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:35.840 this like contemplative, like reflective and like judgmental politics, which 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.240 falls further and further away from like taking steps to 0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:39.760 do action. 0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.520 Right, Yeah, I mean a politics abolishing guys looks like 0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:45.040 the United States up until two thousand and one, right, 0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:46.480 we didn't have ice. 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.399 Well, but like from now, like what would it mean 0:46:49.480 --> 0:46:53.360 to actually stop de quotations completely? Like what will that look? Like? 0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.000 What can be done politically to do that? 0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:55.319 Right? 0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.279 And Zorin's not doing this because Son's the mayor of 0:46:58.320 --> 0:47:01.880 New York City. He cannot run for president. People in 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:04.920 his orbit could run for the House and set it 0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:08.120 and push forward bills to do this, and they might 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:12.120 over time. But like, there is a difference between being 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:14.080 the mayor of a local municipality and like, what are 0:47:14.280 --> 0:47:19.200 legitimate politics of actually stopping for our current process of deportations, 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:21.400 what that really looks like and how to actually achieve that, 0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.799 which a very little thought is being put towards among 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:28.200 the American left right now, And it kind of it 0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:32.000 falls back on these like reflective or like contemplative statements. 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:34.719 Yeah, there have been proposals put forward for a long 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:38.120 time on what it would look like to create better 0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:41.800 legal pathways and fewer deportations, right, like those who existed. Sure, 0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.560 like you can look specifically at what people were trying 0:47:44.560 --> 0:47:46.799 to get Biden to do in twenty twenty, right, which 0:47:46.800 --> 0:47:49.600 he obviously completely failed to do and in effect made 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:54.520 things much worse. But like, those policy proposals exist, and 0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.200 they're well thought out and well planned from people who've 0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:01.399 been working into space for decades. Right, Dannie can do 0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:03.799 is like what they call in political science, like the 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:07.840 coattails effect totally right, as a very popular candidate, people 0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:11.120 can ride on his coattails I think it's important in 0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:16.759 that sense that he continues rhetorically to oppose what Ice 0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:18.799 is doing, which like that statement you read did right, 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:23.000 But it's very important that he if he's able to 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:27.319 successfully have his administration in New York, and we will 0:48:27.320 --> 0:48:29.200 see how shit goes in that regard, but if he 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.280 is and there is an electoral project that can arise 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:35.239 based on that, then like it is very important that 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:37.719 they remain in lockstep that like, we are not going back. 0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.400 We're not going to have a Democrat come president in 0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.440 twenty eight and just do a Joe Biden again right 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:45.839 where things get worse. So in that sense, I think 0:48:45.880 --> 0:48:49.040 it like it needs to be something that everyone in 0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:53.840 that movement retains. I guess, like not uniformity is the 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.040 wrong word, you know, but you know what I mean 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.600 literally that it continues to be something of a norse 0:48:57.640 --> 0:49:01.320 staff for whatever is emerging to the left of the DNC. 0:49:02.200 --> 0:49:04.839 Yeah, And like I also, like I guess clarify some 0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:08.000 things I would have said last week and not claiming 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:12.319 that sheerly the the process of honoring these detainers will 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:16.520 like vaguely in a causal sense, results in less ice 0:49:16.600 --> 0:49:19.880 raids in the city. I mean these detainers are they 0:49:19.920 --> 0:49:23.799 are legally required, even unders sanctuary laws, to be to 0:49:23.880 --> 0:49:26.799 be followed. And I think part of what Zora was 0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:31.719 doing was trying to redirect the president's thought away from 0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:36.040 these larger raids to these specific serious crimes. And I 0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:38.279 think in some of this is based on Trump kind 0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:40.320 of has like the last person in the room syndrome 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:44.200 off He kind of just likes or or follows or 0:49:44.360 --> 0:49:47.480 parrots whoever the last person in the room was. And 0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:49.799 like what they've told him, I'm not saying that like 0:49:49.920 --> 0:49:53.000 honoring these these legally required detainers is like is simply 0:49:53.000 --> 0:49:55.960 harmon direction in that sense. This is more so in 0:49:56.080 --> 0:50:00.759 reference to the ongoing negotiations between Momdani and Trump to 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.920 limit ICE action in the city outside of these detainer requests, 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:07.040 which do address serious crime. Which Trump and Mom Donnie 0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:09.719 saw as a point of commonality on is they want 0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:12.120 New York to be a safe place for people, focusing 0:50:12.120 --> 0:50:16.040 on that as opposed to these general ICE raids. And 0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:19.279 there's been like some slight movement on this. Raids have continued, 0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:22.440 but there's been slight movement in terms of Trump, at 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:24.120 least for now, pulling out of his plans to deploy 0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.920 National Guard to assist ICE, and like that is the 0:50:27.239 --> 0:50:30.120 single point where we see some movement on and this 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.359 will be something that in terms of raids like on 0:50:32.400 --> 0:50:34.640 Conall Street. Well, we'll see if this actually makes a 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:38.360 larger impact once he takes office and continues these negotiations. 0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:43.359 If National Guard or assisting ICE, is that like because 0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:47.680 they can't directly do the immigration enforcement right, Well, I. 0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.759 Mean assisting ICE in the way that they have washed 0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:50.160 in DC. 0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:53.120 Yeah, like in terms of like quot unquote protecting officers 0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:55.960 or quote yes, yeah. 0:50:55.320 --> 0:50:58.000 And you know the proposals to do so in Chicago 0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:02.480 and Portland, which are cotton like legal limbo. But I 0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:05.720 mean that the Portland was more specifically for the ICE facility. 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:08.640 Yeah, protecting federal building this kind of deal, versus in Washington, 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:10.880 d C. They were like on patrol with ICE, Like 0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:14.000 they were like roving around and doing roadblocks and shit. 0:51:14.239 --> 0:51:16.120 Yeah, and like much of this quote unquote crime crackdown, 0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:19.279 as bridgets reported on our show, really is actually a 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:23.480 way to do like enhanced immigration enforcement. Yeah, there's a 0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:25.080 lot of fear in New York and discussions with people 0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:26.400 in New York and like how are we going to 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:29.960 handle this happening here. Yeah, and this is like the 0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:32.239 one point of movement that we've seen is Trump pulling 0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.759 out of these plans which previously were quite certain. He 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:36.600 wants to like go one by one and like invade 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:37.160 these cities. 0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:41.280 Yeah, New York. You also have the like the added 0:51:41.800 --> 0:51:44.360 factor that like New York is technically in that border 0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:48.399 enforcement zone, right, so I mean as is Chicago. Yeah, 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.880 I guess most of these places have been Chicago, Portland 0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:54.359 is Los Angeles is because of the Licton and Los 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.919 Angeles they deployed border patrol. Right Now, that's another thing 0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:59.919 that it could happen in New York, but like thus 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:03.160 far hasn't on a massive scale. But yeah, it remains 0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:06.560 to be seen. Right, Like, Trump has this like operation 0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:10.279 at Large that Boveno controls that he could deploy to 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.919 New York and it'll be yeah, provided to Boston, where 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:16.799 Michelle Bouch has like taken a different approach, right Like, 0:52:17.320 --> 0:52:21.440 and yeah, I guess we'll we'll have to continue waiting 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.959 and seeing. It's really heartening to me that people showed 0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:26.560 up in New York as well, you know, like, oh yeah, 0:52:26.719 --> 0:52:28.760 that people in New York showed up on Canal Street 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:29.719 like that is uh. 0:52:30.160 --> 0:52:34.280 Yeah, and prevented ICE from doing any detentions or arrests. 0:52:34.360 --> 0:52:37.760 Yeah. And I think like they, like the ICE eventually 0:52:37.800 --> 0:52:39.560 had to leave to New Jersey, Is that right, Like 0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:42.120 they had to go through the tunnel or whatever, like 0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:48.120 the tunnel, yeah, the Tunnel of Shame. Yeah yeah, but 0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:50.640 like that that is like that is what kept those 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:52.480 people safe, rightly. They didn't have to wait for Eric 0:52:52.520 --> 0:52:55.440 Adams or Mandanni or anyone else, like it was members 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:56.160 of their community. 0:52:56.360 --> 0:52:56.680 Yeah. 0:52:56.840 --> 0:53:02.040 Yeah, which is cool talking of commune ease to want 0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:04.680 to talk about the campus campus community and have freedom 0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:06.440 of speech. He's under threat on our campuses. 0:53:06.920 --> 0:53:11.720 Well, freedom of religion is under threat, James, Okay, religion to. 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:17.239 Freedom to so tired, fed to tire, to cite a 0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:19.440 vibe space interpretation of the religion. 0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:22.520 I mean yeah, this unfortunately, this story did infringe upon 0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:27.000 my freedom to not read horrible college essays Garrison. 0:53:27.080 --> 0:53:28.960 That is a freedom that I have not had for 0:53:29.000 --> 0:53:30.040 many years. 0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:32.319 No, no, and this is why I interested in your 0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:35.719 thoughts on this. A transgraduate instructor has been suspended from 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:40.160 the University of Oklahoma after issuing a failing grade to 0:53:40.200 --> 0:53:42.560 a students assignment right a six hundred and fifty word 0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:45.400 response to a study on if gender conformity is linked 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:49.680 to popularity or bullying in middle school. This twenty year 0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:53.840 old psychology major a junior, wrote in her response that 0:53:53.880 --> 0:53:57.680 she does not consider bullying a problem because quote God 0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:01.040 made male and female and made us different from each 0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:06.560 other on purpose and for a purpose unquote. The response 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:11.120 was entirely personal opinion. It does not even properly cite 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:14.239 specific like scriptures in the Bible. If, like, if I 0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.480 was to write like an unhinged like like a Christian response, 0:54:18.000 --> 0:54:20.160 least the least you could do is site specific things. 0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:21.240 Should that be valid? 0:54:21.400 --> 0:54:21.480 No? 0:54:21.880 --> 0:54:23.480 But even this was not done. 0:54:23.480 --> 0:54:24.920 It's like Bible fanfic. 0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:27.120 These are the vibes I get from Genus. 0:54:27.120 --> 0:54:32.480 Well, yeah, she just gestured her own interpretation of biblical gender. 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.000 Roles, right sure, sure. 0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:39.080 Quote women naturally want to do womanly things because God 0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:43.520 created us with those womanly desires in our heart unquote. 0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.120 So she's women and like like females. I guess maybe 0:54:47.120 --> 0:54:50.600 maybe she was going for a It's. 0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:54.120 It's all circular reasoning like this all based on based 0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.960 on these like biblical gender roles and later, the essay 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:01.560 goes on to self contradict itself ideas of gender norms 0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:06.480 versus gender stereotypes, and it's all just very poorly written. Names. 0:55:06.520 --> 0:55:10.080 Did you read the whole essay? No, okay, it's not 0:55:10.160 --> 0:55:12.200 it's not long. We are not going to read it 0:55:12.239 --> 0:55:13.839 all on air. I'll read it right now. I want 0:55:13.880 --> 0:55:16.560 you to read the whole thing and just just give 0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:20.080 me your immediate thoughts. I dropped it in the zoom chat. 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.279 You have to understand that I might experience like what's 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:23.440 called a trauma reaction. 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:25.240 It's only two pages. 0:55:26.040 --> 0:55:28.520 So it's based on a review of an article, based 0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.879 on a review of an academic study. Yeah, on if 0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:36.080 gender conformity impacts bullying or popularity in middle school. Okay, 0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:43.759 Jesus Christ, that's what she said, but not yet she 0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:49.440 has excited him specifically. No, she never said Jesus yeah God, 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.600 mm hm ah hell yeah. I love it when they 0:55:52.640 --> 0:55:57.680 get into like Hebrew. Oh yeah, yeah, yes, I'm just 0:55:57.760 --> 0:56:03.120 getting a penulta paragraph. Yeah, what class is this in psychology? 0:56:03.160 --> 0:56:07.160 A psychology course? I'm would assign this for a psychology close. 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:13.680 Uh wow yeah, can I just read like the last 0:56:13.680 --> 0:56:14.960 part out loud? 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:17.359 Okay, Sophia, you can you can read the last part. 0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:22.880 Yeah. My prayer for the world and specifically for American 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:25.640 society and youth is that they would not believe the 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:29.799 lies being spread from Satan that make them believe they're 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:33.719 better off as another gender than what God made them. 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:37.279 I pray that they feel God's love and acceptance as 0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:40.000 who He originally created them to be. 0:56:40.960 --> 0:56:43.400 So if you ready inhabited that role beautifully. 0:56:42.880 --> 0:56:47.640 Like thank you, thank you previously and like the paragraph 0:56:47.719 --> 0:56:49.640 of four, do you want me to do it? 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:50.120 Yeah? 0:56:51.280 --> 0:56:58.400 I unfortunately feel like I could really embody this horrific person. 0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:01.560 Society pushing the live that there are multiple genders and 0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:04.799 everyone should be whatever they want to be is demonic 0:57:05.360 --> 0:57:09.120 It severely harms American youth. I do not want kids 0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:10.920 to be teased bullying stuff. 0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:16.360 Yet, So, James, as a college college professor, what is 0:57:16.520 --> 0:57:17.520 your thoughts on this? 0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:20.240 It's just a bad response to the question right that 0:57:20.280 --> 0:57:23.880 there is not a single citation the person has not 0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:27.080 done what they were instructed to do. They have just 0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:29.800 it's a classic example of that you have answered the 0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:32.160 question you wanted me to ask, not the question I 0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:36.240 have asked. Genre Sure, and in this case, Like, I'm 0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:39.400 presuming there was some kind of rubric for grading, Like 0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:41.840 it seems like a like a the sort of assignment 0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:43.800 that you would set once a week, right. I don't 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.680 know if it's an online course or they're just using 0:57:45.720 --> 0:57:49.240 an online LMS, but the comment is clearly from an 0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:50.120 online LMS. 0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:55.000 Yeah, they do have the rubrick and that TPUSA published. 0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:58.360 The rubrick was that you must write this six hundred 0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:01.920 and fifty word reaction demonstrating that you have read the 0:58:01.960 --> 0:58:05.360 assigned article and includes a thoughtful reaction to the material 0:58:05.400 --> 0:58:07.720 presented in the article. Please remember that your reaction paper 0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.560 should not be a summary, but rather a thoughtful discussion 0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:14.000 of some aspect of the article. Possible approaches to reaction 0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:16.680 papers include a discussion of why you feel the topic 0:58:16.760 --> 0:58:19.800 is important and worthy of study or not, or an 0:58:19.840 --> 0:58:23.400 application of the study or results to your own experiences. 0:58:23.960 --> 0:58:27.880 That's a broader prompt than I had otherwise imagined. 0:58:28.920 --> 0:58:32.240 Other section is Reaction papers are graded on a twenty 0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:34.920 five point scale and are evaluated based on the following 0:58:35.200 --> 0:58:37.560 Does the paper show a clear tie to the assigned 0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.280 article ten points? Does paper present a thoughtful reaction or 0:58:41.280 --> 0:58:43.600 response to the article rather than a summary ten points 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.360 and is the paper clearly written five points? The best 0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:49.080 reaction papers illustrate the students have read the assigned materials 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:52.800 and engaged in critical thinking about some aspect of the article. 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.000 Yeah, I mean the way you would do that is 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.600 to reference the article more than in the first line 0:58:58.640 --> 0:59:01.640 of your paper and then never again, right sure, which 0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:04.120 is what this person has done here. Look, at no 0:59:04.200 --> 0:59:06.720 point do they quote from the article mention anything specifically 0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:09.720 the article says, other than that it was very thought provoking, 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:12.400 and then like they've seen the word gender and just 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.120 gone off like a dog after a squirrel, right like, yes, 0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:19.120 and then completely gone off on one about god. Yeah, 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:23.320 that's a pretty broad prompt. It's broader than I would 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:26.680 generally write a prompt, but that's okay with different approaches. 0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:29.080 They haven't specifically said in the prompt that they want 0:59:29.080 --> 0:59:33.720 people to cite their sources, which I normally do. But yeah, 0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.360 they haven't really shown any engagement with the article. 0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:38.720 Right like, this isn't a freshman, this isn't a software 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:42.520 this is this is a junior well well into this semester. 0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:46.440 The response from the instructor was quote, please note I'm 0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:49.160 not deducting points because you have certain beliefs, but instead 0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:51.600 I'm deducting points where you're posting a reaction paper that 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.800 does not answer the questions for the assignment to contradicts itself, 0:59:54.840 --> 0:59:58.600 heavily uses personal ideology over empirical evidence in a scientific class, 0:59:58.920 --> 1:00:01.880 and is at time offensive. While you are entitled to 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:05.240 your own personal beliefs, there is an appropriate time or 1:00:05.280 --> 1:00:07.640 place to implement them in your reflections. I encourage all 1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:10.400 students to question or challenge the course material with other 1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:16.600 empirical findings or testable hypotheses, but using your own personal 1:00:16.600 --> 1:00:19.840 beliefs to argue against the findings of not only this article, 1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:23.280 but the findings of countless articles across the echology, biology, sociology, 1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:27.800 et cetera is not best practice. Unquote yeah, so again 1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:29.840 this is a science class. I guess right late, Like, 1:00:30.400 --> 1:00:33.600 this is not a scientific response. It is, Yeah, no, 1:00:33.800 --> 1:00:37.680 entirely vibes based before becoming a national news story. This 1:00:37.840 --> 1:00:41.800 grade was reviewed and approved by another instructor. This isn't 1:00:41.840 --> 1:00:44.720 just one instructor who happens to be trans This isn't 1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:48.200 just their personal grade. This was reviewed by another instructor. 1:00:48.480 --> 1:00:53.320 But on Thanksgiving TPUSA used this story to start a 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:58.120 media blitz targeting this quote unquote mentally ill professor, this 1:00:58.360 --> 1:01:02.400 graduate student instructor, which is resulted in her being placed 1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:06.880 on leave as the university reviews this incident concerning illegal 1:01:07.000 --> 1:01:09.959 discrimination based on religious beliefs. 1:01:10.400 --> 1:01:12.840 That's not what that is, right, Like, like, I have 1:01:12.960 --> 1:01:16.960 watched the short form video about discrimination many times of 1:01:17.120 --> 1:01:20.760 my years instructing students, and like, this person wasn't discriminated 1:01:20.800 --> 1:01:23.040 against because of their beliefs. They were discriminated. They weren't 1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:26.360 discriminated against. So they were graded for their response which 1:01:26.480 --> 1:01:27.080 was poor. 1:01:26.960 --> 1:01:31.880 For failing to follow the rules of these and again 1:01:32.320 --> 1:01:34.680 not not even as like a freshman who needs more 1:01:34.800 --> 1:01:40.080 clear like you know, first year uniche, Like no, yeah, 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:42.320 this is this is this is a psychology major in 1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:45.480 her junior year. Yeah, writing this response as a part 1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:48.120 of it as a part of a pscientic as a 1:01:48.120 --> 1:01:51.360 scientific psychology course where it's not about science at all. 1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:54.840 You're just talking about your own impression of what God 1:01:55.000 --> 1:01:58.400 wants out of gender roles and citing not not even citing, 1:01:58.480 --> 1:02:01.320 but like pointing towards the Holy Spirit and the Heavenly Father. 1:02:02.040 --> 1:02:05.760 Yeah, and some Hebrew shit that you've translated. I know 1:02:06.640 --> 1:02:10.840 that most instructors who teach at universities now are very 1:02:10.960 --> 1:02:15.720 concerned about exactly this, right, about a student writing a 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:19.280 paper which is just bad and then them going to 1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:23.360 the pretty much tp USA SpeI right and being like, yes, 1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:25.760 it came against me because they hate Jesus. And I 1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:28.800 can imagine that that is worse for trans in genderal 1:02:28.880 --> 1:02:34.080 conforming and otherwise absolutely instructors from conversations right, like. 1:02:34.560 --> 1:02:39.640 No, absolutely, and like TPUSA first gained popularity for its 1:02:39.720 --> 1:02:43.160 like professor watch lists where people could report their like 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:46.840 woke liberal professors. And this is this is the core 1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:50.800 part of the TPUSA model, is attacking academics and people 1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:54.640 who work in university in this instants like cause speculation 1:02:54.720 --> 1:02:58.560 of like how much of this essay was genuine versus 1:02:58.720 --> 1:03:03.120 was this intentionally bad essay to provoke this response, which 1:03:03.480 --> 1:03:06.720 we can't we can't wonder that. But the student has 1:03:06.760 --> 1:03:09.440 like risen to the ranks of like a minor conservative 1:03:09.440 --> 1:03:13.160 celebrity in these in these past two weeks, Yeah, because 1:03:13.160 --> 1:03:17.480 of this incident and is doing like TPUSA like speaking 1:03:17.760 --> 1:03:22.280 speaking appearances, news appearances. There's been dozens of articles across 1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:25.320 right wing outlets on this. It's it's turned into a 1:03:25.440 --> 1:03:26.440 legitimate story for them. 1:03:26.880 --> 1:03:30.160 Yeah, I do want to say, well, like it appears Garrison, 1:03:30.200 --> 1:03:32.360 I discussed this before, but it appears that this person 1:03:32.440 --> 1:03:36.200 is a grad student and not like a ten year 1:03:36.360 --> 1:03:40.520 professor adjunct, Yes, certainly not tenured right, Sure, therefore they 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:45.320 are much more vulnerable and they have many fewer protections 1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:48.080 than a tenured professor would have. I don't know if 1:03:48.120 --> 1:03:50.760 they unionize. It depends on where they're teaching, right, but. 1:03:50.920 --> 1:03:54.120 Like University of Oklahoma, that is questionable. 1:03:54.640 --> 1:03:59.480 Yeah, I mean possibilities points to know, But like, this 1:03:59.640 --> 1:04:03.520 is area is fucking problem for anybody teaching in these fields, right, 1:04:03.640 --> 1:04:07.120 especially graduate students. Like I say especially, I mean imagine 1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:09.680 you're a graduate student on a student visa, right, Like, 1:04:10.200 --> 1:04:15.560 how do you approach teaching this when you know that 1:04:15.720 --> 1:04:18.120 you could end up on the TPUSA instagram. 1:04:18.400 --> 1:04:20.120 It's trying to chill speech, right, This is this is 1:04:20.120 --> 1:04:22.040 part of what they're doing. They're turning this into a 1:04:22.080 --> 1:04:25.480 free speech crusade for religious discrimination. But what this is 1:04:25.480 --> 1:04:29.520 actually doing is chilling speech at universities by making it 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:32.000 so you can't teach certain topics, especially if you happen 1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:34.920 to be trans to yourself. Otherwise, tepa USA in the 1:04:34.960 --> 1:04:36.800 right wing media system is going to turn your life 1:04:36.800 --> 1:04:37.760 into a living nightmare. 1:04:38.600 --> 1:04:42.120 Yeah. I've repeatedly seen a First Amendment cited ref to this. 1:04:42.120 --> 1:04:45.520 This has not got anything to do with the First Amendment. Like, 1:04:45.560 --> 1:04:47.720 the First Amendment doesn't give you the right to get 1:04:47.760 --> 1:04:49.479 a good grade for saying what the fuck you want? 1:04:49.920 --> 1:04:53.040 That's that's not in the First Amendment. But yeah, like 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:57.360 Garrison said, it is chilling speech. Good news. Oklahoma University 1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:00.560 Workers United is a union sick okay, cool, and it 1:05:00.600 --> 1:05:05.200 includes grad student instructors unclear okay? Hit us up oh 1:05:05.480 --> 1:05:09.680 uwu and let us know before we close. 1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:12.440 I do want to mention another story that's happened this 1:05:12.440 --> 1:05:16.120 week which is gonna prompt of a future episode probably 1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:22.120 next week. The online gambling platform cals I've never said 1:05:22.120 --> 1:05:25.880 it before. I'm saying Calshi has that a serial partnered 1:05:26.400 --> 1:05:28.880 with c Kashi. I you don't even know what you're 1:05:28.880 --> 1:05:32.000 talking about anymore, But the online gambling platform cal she 1:05:32.200 --> 1:05:36.440 is partnered with CNN and CNBC this past week to 1:05:36.520 --> 1:05:39.760 allow the news companies to use quote unquote real time 1:05:39.960 --> 1:05:46.240 prediction data for TV news segments and online content. This 1:05:46.360 --> 1:05:49.840 is not entirely surprising if people have been watching CNN 1:05:50.160 --> 1:05:54.240 like I have, like a complete maniac. Because specifically this 1:05:54.240 --> 1:05:58.280 this past November and like this whole election season, news 1:05:58.280 --> 1:06:01.320 pundits on CNN have been using betting odds in place 1:06:01.360 --> 1:06:05.480 of polling data to weigh the likelihood of candidate's winning elections. 1:06:05.520 --> 1:06:08.240 This has become an increasingly common practice, specifically at CNN, 1:06:08.600 --> 1:06:12.000 and now it appears spreading to other news platforms like CNBC. 1:06:13.080 --> 1:06:18.760 How she announcement of the CNN partnership reads quote. CNN 1:06:18.840 --> 1:06:23.160 chief data analyst Harry Enton is an expert in translating 1:06:23.200 --> 1:06:26.800 what data and polling are saying on any given issue, 1:06:27.160 --> 1:06:29.880 and through this integration, he can tap into real time 1:06:30.000 --> 1:06:34.880 prediction markets data to better inform and fact check his reporting. 1:06:35.240 --> 1:06:40.920 Unquote what fact checking his reporting with gambling data? Gambling 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:44.640 odds from people who are betting on like if people 1:06:44.680 --> 1:06:46.080 are going to starve in Gaza? 1:06:46.160 --> 1:06:46.240 Right? 1:06:46.320 --> 1:06:47.800 This is this is the sort of stuff that they 1:06:48.600 --> 1:06:54.480 bet on on. Caliche, not just who wins elections. Absurd Jesus, 1:06:54.920 --> 1:06:55.360 I like. 1:06:55.360 --> 1:06:58.280 That you've pronounced the day of this company several. 1:06:57.960 --> 1:07:00.360 Different see I used to call it Kelly, this is 1:07:00.400 --> 1:07:01.560 the problem. 1:07:01.640 --> 1:07:03.600 I think it's I think it's Calshi. I think I 1:07:03.640 --> 1:07:07.200 think Calshi is correct. There's one possible benefit to this. 1:07:08.360 --> 1:07:11.200 Will it stop Nate Silva being so fucking annoying? No, 1:07:11.280 --> 1:07:13.880 It'll cause them to be more annoying games. How can 1:07:13.880 --> 1:07:14.720 you not see that? 1:07:15.440 --> 1:07:18.360 This is this is a part of the nay cerverification 1:07:18.520 --> 1:07:21.120 of everything God and this this is what I want 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:23.480 to talk about in the full piece. But but no, 1:07:23.760 --> 1:07:26.360 there was there was a Sena news segment in October 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:29.840 twenty twenty five where this data analyst talked about how 1:07:30.040 --> 1:07:33.160 the odds of Democrats winning the midterms are going down 1:07:34.040 --> 1:07:37.200 via citing the Calshi odds, and then he did like 1:07:37.240 --> 1:07:41.160 three minutes of analysis using selective midterm voting data from 1:07:41.160 --> 1:07:44.360 twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen to support the movement in 1:07:44.440 --> 1:07:46.840 the gambling odds. Like that was the core piece of data. 1:07:46.880 --> 1:07:49.680 He was trying to explain, what the fuck? 1:07:50.320 --> 1:07:51.920 How big is this marketplace? 1:07:52.040 --> 1:07:52.560 Pretty big? 1:07:52.720 --> 1:07:54.880 Pretty big? Okay? So I couldn't just come in with 1:07:54.920 --> 1:07:57.480 like five hundred bucks and tip it. 1:07:57.560 --> 1:07:59.480 No, no, no, I mean it depends on what you're doing 1:07:59.560 --> 1:08:02.000 for Like these sorts of big these like big races. Know, 1:08:02.320 --> 1:08:04.439 but part of the real problem is is if you're 1:08:04.600 --> 1:08:07.640 just tuning in to CNN and reading the graphics, it's 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:10.080 really hard to tell that this that these are gambling ods. 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:13.479 You're just seeing big percentages and they're only gonna mention 1:08:13.680 --> 1:08:16.479 that it's from quote unquote betting markets or prediction markets 1:08:16.520 --> 1:08:18.920 like once at the beginning of the segment. After that 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:22.120 they treat the numbers like actual polling data. So it's 1:08:22.560 --> 1:08:27.200 really really manipulative. And unless you're like super paying attention 1:08:27.280 --> 1:08:29.919 to this whole segment, it'd be very easy to interpret 1:08:30.000 --> 1:08:35.080 these gambling numbers as genuine as genuine poll information. Wow, 1:08:35.920 --> 1:08:41.000 it's incredibly dangerous to democracy and uh overall kind of 1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:43.120 bad and fucked up, and it's gonna be spreading. 1:08:43.320 --> 1:08:43.519 Uh. 1:08:44.040 --> 1:08:47.320 The Calshi competitor poly Market partnered with X the Everything 1:08:47.360 --> 1:08:50.360 app and Yahoo Financed earlier this year to integrate their 1:08:50.479 --> 1:08:55.879 quote unquote prediction data into content on X and Yahoo Finance. 1:08:56.760 --> 1:08:58.599 It's only going to become more and more common. 1:08:58.880 --> 1:09:01.920 Well, you're gonna do a long form episode on this. 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:02.559 I will. 1:09:02.720 --> 1:09:05.320 Yeah, this sucks. 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