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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton Zaren Dutton.

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Speaker 3: I got a question for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's it?

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Speaker 3: You have a moment? I do?

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Speaker 2: I do?

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Speaker 3: Excellent? So do I? Okay, So do you know what's ridiculous? Yes,

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Speaker 3: please go first and tell me. Then.

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Speaker 2: Remember a couple of weeks ago you were saying something

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Speaker 2: about having like a food named after you, weren't you?

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Speaker 2: And I couldn't remember. I couldn't sound something I would say, right,

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Speaker 2: and I was all, I don't know because I can't

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Speaker 2: think on the spot. I thought about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh you did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sandwiches.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it is.

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Speaker 2: I remember what it was.

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Speaker 3: If you were to have a food being named after

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Speaker 3: after to have.

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Speaker 2: To be some sort of sandwich because I love you,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's really cool, rotating.

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Speaker 3: Sandwiches, rotating like on a lazy Susan.

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Speaker 2: Rotating sandwiches dot com.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Now this isn't a mashup unless you're going to talk

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Speaker 2: about amazing sandwiches and amazing internet.

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Speaker 3: Oh so does it not a mashup?

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Speaker 2: No, it's not a mashup. Birth Yeah, take a deep breath.

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Speaker 3: Just pretty Dave. Can we just take a moment and

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Speaker 3: really just luxuriate in this because this is amazing. It's okay, okay,

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 2: So Rotating Sandwiches dot com it's a thing. Andrew O'Brien

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Speaker 2: apparently told uh Instagram, specifically our Instagram about it, Rotating

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Speaker 2: Sandwiches dot com.

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Speaker 3: If you go to I don't understand their rotating party.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you go to the website, it's just like

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Speaker 2: one sandwich spinning after another.

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Speaker 3: So it's just pictures of spinning sandwiches laptop. Oh wow,

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Speaker 3: oh wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's like, you know, sandwich party.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing, like a slow spin summer slow.

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Speaker 2: There's one here. There's like a burrito that's kind of

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Speaker 2: like spinning out and having an acid flashback. And that's

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Speaker 2: the thing too, is a burrito sandwich. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to get into that whole debate.

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Speaker 3: I'm just to make them all spin in the same direction. See,

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Speaker 3: I would attempt to have them spinning in different directions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now here's the thing. Okay, we got that website

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Speaker 2: and that I just went down a rabbit hole on.

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Speaker 3: This as I'm want you love sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: I love sandwiches. I love rotating sandwiches. And I like

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Speaker 2: weird stuff so and I love investigating. So there's also

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Speaker 2: this bobber WCC is a YouTuber just tube in it up.

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Speaker 2: This person makes rotating sandwich videos. Also there's like rotating cakes,

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Speaker 2: but the rotating sandwich videos are accompanied by Nintendo music.

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Speaker 3: Is this like visual ASMR?

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Speaker 2: I think so. And the some of them are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't feel so good, and some are like, oh

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Speaker 2: that looks really good, like the grease on some of

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Speaker 2: them are cleasy. But yeah, I can't play it because

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Speaker 2: I don't think that. I think there's a copyright on

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Speaker 2: the Nintendo music. I don't know. But yeah, so it

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Speaker 2: spins and then there's just Nintendo music playing here. I'll

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Speaker 2: play a second and you can just bleep it out, Dave.

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Speaker 3: And then there's sandwiches.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's just right now, there's just a sandwich spinning. So, okay,

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Speaker 2: that's it. That's ridiculous. You're welcome, thank you, thanks, Andrew O'Brien.

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Speaker 3: That's good. I like that.

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Speaker 2: I know it's good. That's why I said.

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Speaker 3: Art Wow, Okay, well you got a second, sure, close

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Speaker 3: your laptop. I got one for you, yes, all right, Quincy.

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Speaker 2: Jones, ridiculous no, no.

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Speaker 3: His interviews ridiculous. Oh yes, but that's another story. We

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Speaker 3: should actually cover his interviews, just his interviews, just anyway.

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Speaker 3: So Quincy Jones called this man one of the first rappers. Okay,

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Speaker 3: right now. Bob Dylan said he changed his life when

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Speaker 3: Bob Dylan wrote his autobiography. He said that quote this

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Speaker 3: man was a fuel to my success.

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Speaker 2: Really and the first rapper.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I know, wild right, But not only that, the

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Speaker 3: same guy also inspired my man, Henry Miller. He also

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Speaker 3: fired the madcap imaginations of Jonathan Winners and Robin Williams.

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Speaker 3: Wait what He also inspired the iconoclast Cankeysy, Lenny Bruce,

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Speaker 3: George Carlin, also your dude, Jerry Garcia. Yeah, he said

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Speaker 3: that this cat was quote like a medicine man, a shaman.

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Speaker 3: Jerry also said, I feel that Lord Buckley is an

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Speaker 3: almost lost resource. He was on the track. That's right,

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Speaker 3: my man, get ready to hear about the lost cultural

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Speaker 3: resource Lord Buckley. Yes, this is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast

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Speaker 3: about absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cons. It's always

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Speaker 3: ninety nine percent murder free and ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Elizabeth, Yes, Lord Buckley.

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Speaker 3: Sure he was a rare one. He was a rare

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Speaker 3: one's rare one. This dude is often credited for being

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Speaker 3: one of the first in our culture to combine high

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Speaker 3: He was known for like rephrasing Shakespeare with streets lying.

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Speaker 3: He combined Baudelaire with Charlie Parker.

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Speaker 2: Now did you mention him once? But I feel like

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Speaker 2: in the San Francisco Mine Troupe did you mention him

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Speaker 2: in passing? And I didn't know who he was? And okay,

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Speaker 2: so he was lazy to look at him.

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Speaker 3: He's a comic as stand up comedian, but that's not

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Speaker 3: really a fitting description of Himyeah, he was the Walt

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Speaker 3: Whitman of the nightclub set. He was the pot smoking

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Speaker 3: Bard of mid century America. Okay, I know him using.

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Speaker 2: Grande location, you know, say Walt Whitman, I'm in exactly.

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Speaker 3: Also, this guy was He was very much a California guy.

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Speaker 3: He was, and then yeah, he's Pete California for you.

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Speaker 3: He was. He was born on an Indian reservation in

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Speaker 3: nineteen oh six in the gold mining town of Tawaalamie.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know what that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was one of nine kids. Both through his

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Speaker 3: He also received his mail for a while at City

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Speaker 3: Lights Bookstore, northeach exactly, so this dude's California guy, and

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Speaker 3: you're getting your mail at City Lights Bookstore. California guy. Now,

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Speaker 3: he would give you a sense of the man just physically.

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Speaker 3: He was a big guy. He was He stood about

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah big, I'm strong. So he would go up

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Speaker 3: aka the Wobbles. He talked about them. Now. When Lord

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Speaker 2: Now it's curious because you don't imagine lumberjacks with that.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's like labor organizers and

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Speaker 3: he headed out into the wide open world, right. He

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Speaker 3: a gig working with the comedian Red Skeleton. Oh yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: you know him. So he was not personally not personally, yeah,

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Speaker 3: but he was an MC for wakathons during the depression.

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Speaker 3: You know what wakathons are is people would basically walk

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Speaker 2: I was thinking like did you ever do the wakathons

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Speaker 3: That's what it was.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna pay basically that five. Yeah, I'm only doing

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Speaker 3: You're in luck. This is a deal for you sponsor me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, i'll do a quarter a lap. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: That'll be a nickel. So they also had to dance contest.

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Speaker 3: They're also endurance contest.

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Speaker 3: Like last couple to drop, the last couple standing essentially wins.

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Speaker 3: They were really into that. They're like, how do I

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Speaker 2: Did people pee their pants in those dance contests?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that hands on a hard body contest. Oh,

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Speaker 2: Play with myself at the beach. I play it by

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Speaker 3: Lifeguards. You cannot play that. They are a family. Everybody

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Speaker 2: But like, I've never really paid attention to that. Do

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to derail you.

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Speaker 3: It's fine. I love talking about you know, your own retention. So,

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Speaker 3: Lord Buckley, it was something of this might. Basically, the

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Speaker 2: So then I do love that in the depression he's

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Speaker 3: Trace back everything. You'll see how this goes. He pulls

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Speaker 4: Now you know when you leave there that there's only

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Speaker 3: You know what is happening in La at this time?

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Speaker 2: Where you're talking about La in the fifties, Lord Buckley, what.

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Speaker 3: So instead of steal towers, Lord Buckley, he builds himself

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Speaker 3: at jazz clubs, he's working in strip clubs, he's working

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And so where does Lord Buckley choose to go.

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Speaker 3: different South Central. This was the nineteen fifties when those

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00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 3: houses were new and they looked nice, like a neighborhood.

434
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 3: This was like a black paradise. Actually, yeah, very much, totally,

435
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,440
Speaker 3: totally and also is a huge on Central Avenue. There's

436
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,919
Speaker 3: this business district. You get a bustling, segregated black business

437
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: entertainment district. Lord Bucket goes down there. He thrives. He

438
00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,680
Speaker 3: loves the energy, he loves the people, The people love him.

439
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,239
Speaker 3: He's into it. Then hip crowds are coming down there.

440
00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: You got a mixture of like the cool local the

441
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,120
Speaker 3: Hollywood set. It turns into a thing.

442
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 2: So he was a gentrifier. He was.

443
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 3: He was the what gentrifiers are attracted to. He's like, oh, yeah,

444
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 3: you can come over here. They're like really, okay.

445
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Canary and the gentrifying coal mine exactly.

446
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: So, picture of this gentrifying canary laying out his wrap

447
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 3: to like basically a bunch of jazz cats in the

448
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 3: hip youngsters, Hollywood people, and like the black locals who

449
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 3: want some entertainment.

450
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, he'd be out there under the credo that, oh

451
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 4: ladies and gentlemen, our lords and ladies, may I say

452
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 4: good evening, your highnesses, under the credo that this is

453
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 4: not a cabaret or a nightclub, but an absolute, factual,

454
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 4: instant truth, a modern atomic chapel of the natural Church

455
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 4: of the theater. May I say welcome to high Mass,

456
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 4: my lords and my ladies. I recently went on a

457
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 4: search for God. I couldn't pin him, so I thought

458
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 4: I'd look for his stash, the great wild beautiful stashes

459
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:38,680
Speaker 4: of love, the elongated, the great liquidity, the great world

460
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 4: wide beauty, the lakes of love called God.

461
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: What do you think I found God in them? The people?

462
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,199
Speaker 3: Ain't that a gas? So this was the nineteen fifties.

463
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: At that time, no one talked like that on stage

464
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:54,440
Speaker 3: or off.

465
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: Spoiler alert, no one talks like that ever.

466
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 3: No, But I mean like he's basically doing like an

467
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 3: impression of the Jazz Cats he'd be talking to backstage.

468
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like a cartoon version of the Jazz Cats. Yeah, exactly.

469
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 3: And they know it too. They know that he's not

470
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 3: trying to do them in a legitimate way, but he's

471
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 3: he's doing in a way that is like paying homage

472
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 3: to the vibe.

473
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 5: Right.

474
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: So he's also basically, as you can tell from the language,

475
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 3: he's a hippie before the Hippies. He's a Beatnik before

476
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 3: the Beatnicks. He is on his own trip before anybody

477
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 3: has said these things.

478
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: Now, when I got here to headquarters today, were you

479
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: listening to him?

480
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 3: Yes?

481
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 4: I was.

482
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: I didn't know what that was.

483
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 3: They came in.

484
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: I walked in and I was like, is he listening?

485
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: He's a very distinct Jesus sermons.

486
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: What I thought it was.

487
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 3: I'll get back into that in a second. Okay, Elizabeth,

488
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 3: you may also detect there's a certain distinct rhythms and

489
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 3: tones of someone who you may say is friendly with

490
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 3: the jazz cabbage. Sure, yeah, right, so the senior rita marijuana.

491
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: She you would be correct. As one dude. Eldon Sutterholm

492
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 3: said he was a film industry bohemian. He recalled in

493
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: a nineteen eighty seven article from the magazine Irregular Quarterly.

494
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 3: Oh believe you were once a subscriber.

495
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: To that man, I was the editor in chief.

496
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so they're still doing well. Anyway, set her home.

497
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: He recalled Lord Buckley's performances in jazz clubs up on

498
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: Hollywood Boulevard where the LAPD they kept a very active

499
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: vice squad. They had to keep that check right, So

500
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 3: they were always looking to bust Old Lord Buckley on

501
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 3: marijuana charges. So he would be like smoking in the

502
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 3: club and so that was not kosher. But anyway, so

503
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: this guy put it quote, he smoked Paul Mall's while

504
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 3: he did his act. When O Grady, the Hollywood vice fuzz,

505
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 3: was trying to nail him when he was playing a

506
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 3: jazz city on Hollywood Boulevard, Buckley would put a joint

507
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 3: under his foreskin and smoke it in the head before

508
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 3: he went on stage because he liked to be stoned

509
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 3: when he worked. The Hollywood vice were trying to get

510
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 3: Buckley because he was so upfront about smoking it. Wait, wait,

511
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: joints in his crotch.

512
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: In his foreskin. Yes, he's not even like, oh, I

513
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:47,919
Speaker 2: just tuck it in my.

514
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 3: Apparently he would make it up in there because apparently

515
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: not even the Hollywood vice squad check that close. God,

516
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: So he would sneak a token in the men's room

517
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,199
Speaker 3: and then go up on stage.

518
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: And was it still lit when it was?

519
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think it was ever when it

520
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 3: was involved in the crotch?

521
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: Is it like, you know lit side in the man

522
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 2: cut his own foot off.

523
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he maybe has a high tolerance for paying. Who knows.

524
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: So he was. He was busted on possession back in

525
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 3: forty three in the fair city of Chicago. Now can

526
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: you guess which future celebrity would get the charges dropped

527
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: for him? I'll give you a hint, yeady letters and gentlemen,

528
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 3: we have a really big show a really big show

529
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,199
Speaker 3: for you tonight. Not the perfect example, but you get

530
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 3: the idea, a really big show. Ed Sullivan Sullivan, they

531
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 3: become good friends when they get.

532
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 2: Them together face right, It's like Nixon's.

533
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: Brother, it looks like. So they performed together during the

534
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 3: USO tours of World War Two, and so they became

535
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: real tight. So he gets busted Ed Sullivan and had

536
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 3: some you know, some cachet in Chicago, so you like

537
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 3: got him up, and I was like, man, Ed Sullivan,

538
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,719
Speaker 3: you don't really think I would think him as kind

539
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: of a square. But apparently he's getting people out of

540
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 3: marijuana charges.

541
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: And forty three he had a lot of you know,

542
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: crazy people on the show.

543
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: Totally, totally. He gave us the Beatles, as everybody.

544
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: Says, you know anyway, and Elvis from the waist up.

545
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what the Elvis the pelvis?

546
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 5: Right?

547
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: Okay, So back to La Lord Buckley Jazz Clubs, Nightclubs,

548
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 3: La Underground hit. All right, you got all that, Okay,

549
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: So now he starts leaning hard into his messionic mission

550
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: to spread the gospel of jazz and love right, and

551
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,639
Speaker 3: also he wants to start to critique the state of

552
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 3: America because it's the fifties. So he starts calling up

553
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: this jazz cabbage version of Jesus that he the cat

554
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: that he calls the Nas. He uses Jesus like the

555
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 3: Nazarien Jesus. So he uses the Naz as a critique

556
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 3: of modern America. So he throws hipster jazz cat Jesus

557
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 3: at America, and he does this thing called the Naz

558
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: where he does the sermon on the mount. Now, I'll

559
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: just give you a little taste of it ready, Yes.

560
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 4: Well, the Nas look at them cats and kitties, and

561
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 4: the nassay, you're hungry, ain't you, babies?

562
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: And the cats say, yeah, Nas, we was.

563
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: Digging so hard what she was putting down, we didn't

564
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 4: prepare we go man, Yeah, that's what you call it

565
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 4: to The Nas said, well.

566
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: We got to take care easy here.

567
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 4: We don't want to go ahead and order up something

568
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 4: you might not like wood we and they said, no, Nas,

569
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 4: you put it down and we'll pick it up. And

570
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: the Nas stepped back a few paces, and he said, oh,

571
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 4: great swinging flowers of the field. And they said, oh,

572
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: great NonStop singular song to beauty. And the Nas said

573
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 4: stop upon the terror, and they hit it, and the

574
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 4: nas said lift up your miracle the body, and the

575
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 4: body went up and they said lift up your arms,

576
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: and the arms went up. He said higher and they

577
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 4: went higher, and he said dig infinity, and they dug it.

578
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 3: Oh God, Now you went into a jazz club and

579
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 3: you got that as comedy you do a lot of

580
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,239
Speaker 3: people were They were not ready for that. They were

581
00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: not ready to dig in.

582
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: Phinny, you a great jobs because this is what I like.

583
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: I heard like, I said when I got here today,

584
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: I heard I heard you listening to this. That's exactly

585
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: what it sounds like. You're doing a good job.

586
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 3: I tried. I wanted to get the boys right. So

587
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: as Lloyd Buckley is laying down his Jesus wrap and

588
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: his referrance off stage, his life is getting even wilder.

589
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yes, he's actually getting calmer on stage. So

590
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: he's on the road a lot, right, So it said,

591
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: leaves a lot of antics. I'll give you another sample.

592
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 3: This Crown Prince of Chaos hits. He's basically friends with

593
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra keeps giving him gigs, hooking up

594
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 3: with them. He really likes him. Frank Sinatra has a

595
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: wild sense of humor, as you can probably tell from

596
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 3: some of his later Vegas stuff. Yeah, but in the

597
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: fifties he's also kind of a little bit blue, so

598
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: like he was really into laughing, Like he needed a

599
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: good laugh. So somebody wild he could take him off.

600
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 3: His mind was great. So he would have Buckley around

601
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: all the time. One time, according to Lord Buckley's manager, quote,

602
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: Buckley led sixteen nude people through the lobby of the

603
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 3: Royal Hawaiian where Sinatra was performing. Sinatra had got him

604
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 3: the job. When he learned of this case, he phoned Buckley,

605
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 3: it's the funniest thing I ever heard. Just don't ask

606
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 3: me for any more favors. Oh my god. There was

607
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: also the Hearse promotion in Chicago. There's a comedian, the

608
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: Adam Keef. He remembered the time that Buckley was ginning

609
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 3: up the crowd for the night because he got to

610
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: pack him in. So he goes out there, He's like,

611
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: I can get some attention onces he going to get attention.

612
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: Quote.

613
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: Buckley was working in a Chicago club, the Susieq. He'd

614
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 3: hired an open backed hurtz and was lying in an

615
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: open coffin in the back of the hearse there was

616
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: a big sign that said the body comes alive at

617
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: the susie Q and he's lying there in the coffin

618
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: smoking a joint, riding around Chicago. Oh my god. So

619
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 3: that's how he ginned up time. Anyway, So he gets

620
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: back home to La off the road right, and he

621
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: likes to hold forth and let the madness come to him.

622
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,479
Speaker 3: So he starts gathering up this quartier of oddball characters.

623
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: Right at this point, he relocated to a house in

624
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 3: Topanga Canyon. So apparently Tobang Canny has long been a

625
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: draw for the outcast and the weirdos. There was this

626
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: dude artist Bob DeWitt, who operated a health food store.

627
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: He had in his story at a little stage. So

628
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: he's like, you can come up here, you can do

629
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: your show here. You don't need to go down to

630
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: the strip clubs. He's like, oh, maybe I'll do that.

631
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: So he's gonna go up there and basically start his

632
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 3: church in this natural health food store. Bob DeWitt also

633
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: has like a house for Ramsley. He's like, yeah, it's

634
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: living the So they set him up in this house

635
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: and they decorated all with the red velvet fabric inside

636
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: it was insane. They called it the jewel box because

637
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: it looked like the inside of a jewel box. Anyway,

638
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 3: Bob DeWitt, he gave an interviewer much later in life.

639
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: At that point he was like a ninety two year

640
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: old man. But the person who interviewed him took time

641
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: to note his T shirt. On his T shirt it

642
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: said I had a ball at the testicle Festival. Oh

643
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: so a ninety two year old man who has that

644
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: shirt gives you a sense of guy his right. So

645
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: he was too happy to have Lord Buckley in his neighborhood.

646
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: So he welcomed the Church of the Living Swing. That's

647
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 3: what Buckley was calling it. And this becomes also a

648
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: problem from the neighborhood because now he's brought the attention

649
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 3: of the Lapd because Lapd were like, we don't like

650
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: that swing, and they were trying to keep everything like

651
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: you know dragnet Joe Friday La DeWitt recalled quote. It

652
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 3: wasn't like the Methodist Church. This was the headquarters of

653
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 3: the Church of the Living Swing. And if I have

654
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: to explain swing to you, well it's just too late. Bluckily,

655
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: he didn't have a routine. Everything was so fresh it

656
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: would scare you, and it scared the cops because they

657
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: didn't know what was going on. We were under constant

658
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: pressure from the cops, but they didn't let his stop them.

659
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: They just kept smoking pot and doing their things. So Dewitz,

660
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: they would operate a light show down to Topanga Canyon.

661
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: You know how it's like a valley filled with like

662
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 3: trees and have stuff. Yeah, they would have that canyon

663
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 3: lit up with lights and colors from like plates of

664
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: glass with inksport over there. Oh yeah, the very sixties

665
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: second light show. They're doing that in the fifties and

666
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: they're doing that, like so they're dappling the canyon with

667
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: colored lights and they're sitting up there getting twisted on peyote,

668
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: high on homegrown pot, and drunk on tequila, having a

669
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 3: good old time doing all this, right, talking about the

670
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 3: mysteries and the cosmos. Right, so they particularly liked the

671
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: effects of peyote, which at that time was still legal.

672
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, So his he had his friend mel Wells,

673
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: and he'd tell them how. They said, quote, we all

674
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: had to payote. It wasn't on the narcotics code. At first.

675
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: There was a place called exotic gardens in El Paso, Texas,

676
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: and you could buy a crate of payote for five

677
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: dollars and they would ship.

678
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: It to you.

679
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 3: They'd send the whole cactus. You'd have to cut the

680
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: buds off and boil them down. After his time to

681
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: you know, tripping wild into Panga Canyon, Lord Buckley and

682
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: his expanding family moved into a large house on Whitley

683
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: Avenue in Hollywood. Right, So now this is where he

684
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: creates what he calls his royal court. So Melwell's the friend,

685
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: he says, he tells it. The royal court was a

686
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: very serious thing to him, thrown and all. He had

687
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 3: a throne in every house he ever had, a real

688
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: thrown a magnificent chair. The castle up on Whitley Terrace

689
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: in Hollywood, it wasn't really a castle. It was a

690
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 3: nice house, a big house on top of a hill.

691
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: But what made it the castle was Buckley's treatment of it. So,

692
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: just like his hip Soares back in New York where

693
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 3: Charlie Parker would swing through in La he recreates that

694
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 3: same vibe, but just was a slightly different crowd. But

695
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: rather than tell you about Elizabeth, I'd like you to

696
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: close your eyes.

697
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: My eyes a clothes picture, and you are a plastic parrot.

698
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: You are a fixed to the shoulder of the legendary

699
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 3: Hollywood tough guy actor Robert Mitchumb. You are currently enjoying

700
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: the feel of the wind from the velocity of a

701
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 3: speeding car, a top down convertible, as it winds up

702
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: the Hollywood Hills. The car comes to a stop outside

703
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: a somewhat ramshackle mansion. It looks somewhat like Norma Desmond's

704
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: place in the Billy Wilder movie Sunset Boulevard. Robert Mitcham

705
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: steps out of his car. The door closes. You go

706
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: with him, since you are a fixed to his shoulder. Now,

707
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: he had some of the costume people in the studio

708
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: lot doll them up in a pirate costume. He'd heard

709
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: that the party was a costume party, but he should

710
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: have listened better. What he actually was told was it's

711
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: like a costume party, So he shows up in costume

712
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 3: that not everybody else will be wearing it. Anyway, there

713
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 3: you are on his shoulder. You and Robert Mitchum stroll

714
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: up to the front door, which is wide open. Pot smoke,

715
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: cigarette smoke mixes and wafts out of the home. It

716
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: It's like silver fingers of smoke pawing at the air.

717
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 3: Robert Mitcham stops dead when he spies the host of

718
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: this souire, the King of the Underground, Lord Buckle, dressed

719
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 3: in a tuxedo with tails and a kingly robe. He's

720
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: also holding a bull whip and cracking it in the

721
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: air with a sinister menace. No, Lord Buckley's whip sings again,

722
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: splitting the air with a snap. Then he bellows, show

723
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: us a talent, and you will gain entry now. But

724
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: he sees you, and he heads over and he hands

725
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 3: the whip to someone else, instructs them to take over,

726
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: and he hops down from the gilded chair he was

727
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: standing on. He swans over to you, and really more

728
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 3: to Robert Mitcham, and he a greets Robert Mitcham warmly,

729
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 3: and he invites him into what he calls his castle.

730
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: Now inside, the party's at full swing. Drinks her in hand,

731
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 3: joints her smoking laughter periodically punctuates the air. From your

732
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 3: perch on Robert Mitcham's shoulder, you take in the scene.

733
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: You see a heavy set drag queen named Tubby Boots

734
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: performing a tassel dance. Nice, it's mesmerizing. You also spot

735
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 3: mink Head, a circus clown in full face pain and

736
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: drunken revelry. Now there's the stripper instructor Cosmo, and some

737
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: ce list Hollywood actors on the make that you recognize.

738
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: Robert Mitcham accepts a joint from someone, takes a few puffs.

739
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: He's lead further into this party. Lord Buckley wants him

740
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 3: to see the quartet that's swinging in the back. You

741
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: push through the thick velveteen curtains and you were greeted

742
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: by the blair of a trumpet. The music is cooking.

743
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 3: The quartet features legends Benny Carter and Chico Hamilton. You

744
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: and Robert Mitcham chill there for a bit and you

745
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: dig on the syncopated rhythms. Now Lord Buckley is called away.

746
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: There's some matter about the bathtub. You and Robert Mitcham

747
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 3: keep listening to the jazz. Now, a little while later,

748
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: Robert Mitcham clamps up the backstairs and he goes up

749
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: to the second level to go look for Lord Buckley,

750
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: and you spy a room full of half nude but

751
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 3: face painted birthday clowns doing what seems to be some

752
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: type of yoga. It's not sexual, it's not even sexy.

753
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 3: It just looks like a form of clown therapy. You

754
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: look away, You shake off that images. Robert Mitcham tucks

755
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 3: his head into a bathroom, and there in the bathtub

756
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: is Lord Buckley holding court in his kingly fashion. There

757
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 3: are roughly fifteen people, all crammed in the tiny tiled room.

758
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: Lord Buckley is entertaining them all, and he's veiled in

759
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: pot smoked mid jazz riff.

760
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: Waxing poetic about the value of the cosmic swing babies.

761
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: Now, Robert Mitcham thanks him for the invite, says he'll

762
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: catch him at the jazzpot next time. He prefers the music,

763
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 3: not the scene. He turns to go, but has to

764
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 3: wait as a woman riding a donkey wearing a sombrero

765
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 3: squeezes past in the hallway. Once the donkey is gone,

766
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 3: he takes the stairs and pushes through the crowd, makes

767
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 3: it back outside, where the noise falls away. He shakes

768
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: his head to himself about what he did is witnessed.

769
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: He relights the some joint he was handed. Then he

770
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 3: reaches up pulls you from his shoulder. He doesn't chuck

771
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 3: you though. Instead he's sort of gently sets you down

772
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: on a stone bench just outside the door. You watch

773
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: as Robert Mitcham strolls back down as his convertible and

774
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 3: the stoned pirate drives off into the Hollywood knight.

775
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: Amazing.

776
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: So there you go a day at Lord Buckley's right,

777
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: I got some night. I wanted you to feel it.

778
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 3: Thank you. All right, Well, I'll give you a chance

779
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: here to shake that off, to take a break, and

780
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 3: after that I'll come back and I've got some more

781
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: criminality for it.

782
00:35:49,800 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 6: Excellent, all right, Elizabeth, And what are we? Yeah, we

783
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 6: are looking at it as you me and Lord Buckley. Yes.

784
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 3: So typically after one of those parties that you just experienced,

785
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: the next morning, after his Royal Court had drained out

786
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: of his home, Lord Buckley would walk out onto the

787
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: back balcony of his mansion. You typically stark naked. Sometimes

788
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 3: he would spot his neighbor, the actress Boola Bondi. She's

789
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 3: Jimmy Stewart's mother and it's a wonderful life.

790
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 4: Oh.

791
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: She would look over and see him as he and

792
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 3: he would sing to her and wave and then naked

793
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 3: and he's naked.

794
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: Do we have a joint in his ding ding?

795
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: No, that's only for you when he's working, got it? Yeah,

796
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,280
Speaker 3: And he'd sing out and this is a song. Apparently

797
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: he's sung almost every morning.

798
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: I dig Hollywood every moment, every moment I dig it?

799
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 3: Why do I dig Hollywood?

800
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: All my friends here, I got worst neighbor ever turn

801
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: on him constantly.

802
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 3: So this madcap comic king of the underground, as I

803
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 3: pointed out, he had ever expanding family. He was also

804
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: a father. So inside these home, the small children children

805
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: in this all these parties and romps, small but he

806
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: apparently shielded them from all the shocks.

807
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 7: Now, wow, you have like naked clown wrestling and everyone's

808
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 7: smoking drugs worse than and sipping drugs.

809
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 2: Drugs.

810
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: He said that. Uh, someone asked me, basically your question,

811
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: was it like having Lord Buckley as your dad? He's like, well,

812
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: Red Fox was my babysitter.

813
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: Okay, well there you go. He's just twitches all day,

814
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: Red Fox.

815
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: One.

816
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

817
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: But apparently, according to Richard the Sun, despite the red

818
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: Fox of it all, he said that his father was

819
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 3: actually kind of a stern dad at home.

820
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: So it is okay, Well, find how many childrens did he.

821
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: Have multiple just kids? It's like a bag of it.

822
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 3: It's kind of slow. He's got like, you know, ten heads,

823
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: like bevy of children. Elizabeth three to four kids. He's

824
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: got three to four kids. So his daughter, Laurie one

825
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: of the three to four. She said, quote, my brother

826
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 3: and I were so well behaved children. Yes, ma'am, no, ma'am,

827
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: thank you, very well mannered. They often say that we

828
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 3: were so perfect that the people who met us would

829
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: go home and beat their children because they'd say, why

830
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: aren't you like those buckley children. It was required simply

831
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 3: because we traveled around in the business up all hours,

832
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: and you couldn't just be disorderly children and make the gig.

833
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: So it was very important to my parents that we

834
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: were well behaved as we were traveling constantly. We were

835
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: so straight in such a wild world. When they smoked marijuana,

836
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 3: they never said what it was. Not that we cared.

837
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: We just knew that everybody was very happy.

838
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 4: Huh.

839
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: Now, I can say, as somebody was raised somewhat similarly,

840
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: I definitely knew what pot smelled like by the time

841
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: I was five. I could identify it immediately, right, So

842
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what Laurie's saying, because like I knew

843
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: more than they're all happy. I knew like my pop

844
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: and his friend getting lifted.

845
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: I feel like Laurie and her three to four siblings

846
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: were maybe kept in a dungeon in the basement.

847
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: From everything I read, they really do. They don't like

848
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 3: a lot of these, you know, children of famous people,

849
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 3: though they will both love and be critical of their parents.

850
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: You don't get that from them, right.

851
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: But I'm just thinking too, when you have someone who's

852
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: on the edge like that, and then they have all

853
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: the freaky, deaky hangers on, it's the freaky, deky.

854
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 3: Hangers on that I don't know, they're the danger. Yeah, yeah,

855
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 3: like to show the parent does not realize they're bringing.

856
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: And then it's just like, well, if you're going to

857
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: live that life, why did you have kids?

858
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 3: Kids are wonderful. That's how you make more people, if

859
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: you love the people, that's how you do it.

860
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: I'm over here and making more of validate my existence.

861
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. That's a fair question, you know.

862
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: I just so, we've talked POD, we've talked POT, we've

863
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: talked parenting. We also Lord Buckley was an early psychonaut Yeah. Yeah,

864
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: he was part of the original acid tests because of

865
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 3: course he was. I mean, it would have been derelict

866
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: of science to not say.

867
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: If you said he wasn't, I'd be like, there's a problem.

868
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

869
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 3: So the year at this point, nineteen fifty nine, Lord

870
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: Buckley he walks into Club Renaissance, which was located where

871
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 3: the House of Blues used to be on Sunset Boulevard.

872
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: There was a coffee house at the time. So there

873
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 3: he meets this dude named Oscar Janniger er Janiger, and

874
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: he is actually a doctor and he was a colleague

875
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: of Timothy Leary. He was also studying the effects of

876
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 3: this relatively new compound called LSD.

877
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

878
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 3: So at the time, doctor Janiger was holding acid sessions

879
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 3: as a therapist in La Right, so he's working with

880
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 3: Kerry Grant, a Nias Ninn, the pianist Andre Previn. And

881
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 3: now I don't know if you know this, but Kry

882
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: Grant huge fan of the acid.

883
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah I've heard that.

884
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 3: So he told reporters at the time, I've been born again.

885
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: There came a day when I saw the light. I

886
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 3: probably should have done that and more Kerry Grant voice,

887
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 3: I realized after I said it, But whatever, I now,

888
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: there you go. So one day doctor Janniger he holds

889
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: a group acid session and he invites Lord Buckley up

890
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: to a cabin at Lake Arrowhead, and there with him

891
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: is the actor James Coburg. Yeah, big talk, why guy?

892
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: So Lord Buckley and James Coburn they they trip out

893
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: on Hasseid together in this cabin and Lord Buckley actually, uh,

894
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: he recorded some thoughts on the trip, like some notes,

895
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: and so apparently these are his recollections LSD.

896
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: First trip by Richard Lord Buckley, ordinary seaman on the

897
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 4: good ship Lovely Soul Detonator under the command of Fleet

898
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 4: Admiral Oscar Jannaga, head Detonator and head head. My whole

899
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: body was jingling with alert signals. This is gonna be

900
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: one mother of a takeoff.

901
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: Hang on.

902
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: It felt like a soul pressure.

903
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 4: I felt strong, I felt words shooting out of me

904
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 4: like projectiles. Acres of untapped sound were waiting to be

905
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: put in the gun of expression.

906
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 3: So with Lord Buckley, you would probably hang yourself.

907
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: You would probably just be like exhausting. Oh yeah, in

908
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: any circumstance, whatever you're doing, if he's there, he's exhausting

909
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: is what it sounds like.

910
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 3: Just wait. According to doctor jannier Down, that trip lasted

911
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: eighteen hours.

912
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 4: They were all in this cabin for hours while he's

913
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: talking about the cosmic mysteries.

914
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, noted about the words I've never said

915
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 3: on tap, Oh my god. So he does this unscripted

916
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: jazz improvised comic acid rant, and doctor Jannigher said later on,

917
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: I've never seen a human being continuously expound on a

918
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 3: variety of subjects in such a refreshing interesting way over

919
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: such a long period of time, without ever repeating himself.

920
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: It was a virtuosa performance.

921
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: See you're just encouraging doctor doctor.

922
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: Hit him on his hand, doctor doctor, don't say these

923
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: things in public. So eventually, during this eighteen hour trip,

924
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: someone phoned down the mountain and they asked for a

925
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: tape recorder to be brought. Oh no, So Jim Macy

926
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: was there that day and he said, quote, So I

927
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 3: called up a friend of mine and said, you got

928
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 3: to get a tape recorder to me. We got Buckley

929
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 3: up here and he's going ninety miles an hour. It's

930
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 3: too good. We got to record it. So the friend

931
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: bart recorder drove up to Lake Arrowhead. Lord Buckley was

932
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: still holding Forth because we're only somewhere in the middle

933
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: of the eighteen hours. The tapes were later then handed

934
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 3: over to a Lord Buckley confidant, who reportedly gave them

935
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 3: to Lord Buckley and who over time apparently lost them.

936
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 3: So this great master work work was lost to time,

937
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: his greatest reform. It's perfect legacy. It was the one

938
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: time he had to be there, and he just had

939
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 3: to be there so much like me. A big hero

940
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: of Lord Buckley was Abraham Lincoln. Now I know Lincoln

941
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: was flawed, but I still like him right. And Lord

942
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: Buckley he lionized America's greatest president. But that was my man.

943
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: I'm a Lincoln cat. So he saw him as the

944
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 3: great liberator, and he says such. He wanted his modern

945
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: audience to revere honest day as much as he did,

946
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: so he worked him into his act right. So he's

947
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: got Jesus, he's got Lincoln. He did a hip semantic

948
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: version of the Gettysburg address. He opened it up with

949
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 3: jazz paraphrasing, He's like four big hits and seven licks ago.

950
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: Before Daddy's swung forth upon this sweet, groovy land before Daddy.

951
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 3: He proceeds to recreate the whole speech in jazz cat tack.

952
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: I won't do the whole thing, I'll just do the

953
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: last little bit.

954
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 4: Okay, we hear one.

955
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 3: It's stuck up straight for all to dig.

956
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 4: That these departed studs shall not have split in vain,

957
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 4: and that this nation, under the great Swinging Lord, shall

958
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 4: swing up a whopper of endless marty gras, And that

959
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: the big law by you straits from you cats and

960
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: for you kiddies shall not be scratched from the big race.

961
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 3: And there's wow, a Lincoln cat.

962
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: Exhaust.

963
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: He loved Lincoln so much he made his children memorize

964
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: the Gettysburg address and then memorize his version two oh no, Oh,

965
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 3: Panda Dolso put up with. He was apparently a madly

966
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 3: patriotic guy. He would drive around LA in a big,

967
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: bright red car, top down with an American flag flapping

968
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 3: over him like he was a car dealership. His kids

969
00:44:59,239 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 3: hated that.

970
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah fat.

971
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: His friend Melwells, the guy keep quoting, he said quote.

972
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 3: He was definitely a patriot. He adhered to the idea

973
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: that our founding fathers recognized that they were part of

974
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: something bigger than themselves. He used to say that a lot.

975
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: He thought America and the principles for which it stands

976
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: in the world was something that was bigger than any

977
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: of us. Before it was popular, there was always a

978
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: flag on the wall in his house. He was very

979
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: much an admiration of people who were true patriots. I'm

980
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 3: with him on that. They you know me, I was

981
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 3: raised that way. So a large part of his patriotism

982
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 3: was based in the First Amendment, the right of the

983
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 3: freedom of speech. As I said with the Lumberjack Wobblies

984
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: back in the day. He held the First Amendment sacred,

985
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: so as Los Angeles Magazine they put it in one

986
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 3: of their articles. Lord Buckley was quote instinctively a believer

987
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 3: in the notion that rights withered away if you didn't

988
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 3: test their limits. He asserted his rights with the weapon

989
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 3: at his disposal. A love of the American voice. Yeah,

990
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: so people justas could talk about his American voice, but

991
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 3: I think it's important that we point out that it

992
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: was basically the voice of the marginalized people. Yeah, outcast artists, minorities.

993
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: He was the voice of the great weirdness of life,

994
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 3: which I think is important as the fifties, Drato closed

995
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: Lord Buckley. He went back out on the road and

996
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: he and his aid de camp. This dude had been

997
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 3: named Prince Louis Foremaster. They set out to cross country

998
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: in a VW microvan. Can you imagine being stuck now?

999
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: Oh god, why do we get to Munsie? Anyway, the

1000
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: rumor has it that Lord Buckley was in ill health

1001
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: and he may have suffered a stroke in Chicago. But anyway,

1002
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 3: they continue on to New York. He books a gig

1003
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: and a nightclub in Greenwich Village. He goes up on

1004
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: stage at the Jazz Gallery. New York PD busts into

1005
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 3: the club. The cops from the NYPD Vice Division. They

1006
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: go up on stage and they drag Lord Buckley off

1007
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: stage and arrest him for violation of what the cabaret

1008
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: card code? Do you know about the cabaret card? So

1009
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: that was a way for the city fathers to regulate

1010
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 3: the night life in New York and they was they

1011
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 3: kind of did like a morality police thing. So it

1012
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 3: was a relic of the days of prohibition. So the

1013
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 3: cabaret card was awarded by the city. It could be

1014
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 3: denied to any perform who's ever accused of being immoral. Yep,

1015
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 3: so Lord Buckley obviously was. He had an arrest for

1016
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: public drunkeness on his record that they used as a scapegoat,

1017
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: and this was from his time in Reno in like

1018
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: the forties. But they're like, oh yeah, that's enough, and

1019
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: so his cabaret card was pulled basically right now. Millie Vernon,

1020
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 3: she was a jass singer at the time, she said

1021
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: quote that Sinatra didn't play a New York nightclub again

1022
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: until the cabaret card law was finished. Lady Day couldn't

1023
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: play in New York. Monk Bird. It was disgraceful. We

1024
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 3: went down to get fingerprinted for our cabaret cards once

1025
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 3: and Art Blakey was sitting down there at the police station.

1026
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: What in indignity? It was terrible? Wow? Yeah, right, So

1027
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: Lord Buckley, he's up against the wall, facing actual time

1028
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: behind bars and doesn't know what to do. She Phonnes,

1029
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: his wife, and this would unfortunately become their last phone call.

1030
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: Lord Buckley asked, Lady Buckley, what do you want me

1031
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: to do? Manby, stay here and fight this thing. Oh,

1032
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: come home. She's like, come home, Lord Buckley. He couldn't

1033
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 3: just walk away from this fight. Because he's you know,

1034
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 3: he's up against the squares and he wants to, like,

1035
00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: you know, be the guy do it for the people,

1036
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: so for the outcast, the artist, right, So he gets

1037
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: up there. He says, maybe his heroes are Jesus and Lincoln.

1038
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: You can see where this is going. His fight would

1039
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 3: cost him his life. Yeah, So Lord Buckley out on

1040
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: bail in the morning of November twelve. He's told by

1041
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 3: his aid de camp that he tells him that he's

1042
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 3: not he's not feeling well. Maybe the aid de camp

1043
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: has got planned for the day. He's like, I don't know,

1044
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 3: I'm not feeling well. So I wonder what I'm struck

1045
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: by the bug bird. That's what he called being sick

1046
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: the bug bird. So he tells Prince Lewis, you know,

1047
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 3: only lay down a bit, right. Prince Lewis gets a

1048
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 3: little worried, so he calls his old friend Ed Sullivan.

1049
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know if Lord Buckley's going to

1050
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: be all right. Right, It's like, I'll I'll call it

1051
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: a nine one one, right, So Ed Sullivan calls nine

1052
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: to one one Lord Buckley. The ambulance gets there, they

1053
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 3: take him to the hospital. He passes away that night,

1054
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: right now, the ken Kesey, we need to do a

1055
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 3: show on him sometimes, definitely. He summed up the counterculture

1056
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: of America and Lord Buckley's place in it. He said,

1057
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: Lord Buckley is a secret thing that people pass under

1058
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: the table. You ask writers who they think is the

1059
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: best writer, and they all mentioned someone above them. Gradually

1060
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 3: you get up at the hop and you get to

1061
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: Samuel Beckett, and not many people have read him, but

1062
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 3: a lot of people have been influenced by Beckett. I

1063
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 3: think the same was true of Lord Buckley. There were

1064
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: a lot of people influenced by Lord Buckley, who never

1065
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: even hurt his material and how he was, and after

1066
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 3: he passed, rumors starts swirling about him. And I think

1067
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: he would have found the rumors amusing, because for one,

1068
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 3: there was stalk that it wasn't illness but instead black

1069
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 3: Muslims did him in Oh God, that's a very black rumor.

1070
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 3: It's a very jazz cat rumor. It's everything you want.

1071
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: So there was also a rumor that a counterfeitter betrayed him,

1072
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Speaker 3: and that he was poisoned, also again by the counterfeeder

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Speaker 3: of the counterfeiter's agents. And then there was even talk

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Speaker 3: that some unknown person hit him with like a karate

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Speaker 3: chalk that ruptured an organ and he died later and

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Speaker 3: so man, yeah, how Lord Buckley died? Oh no, how'd

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Speaker 3: he know? You didn't hear? Yeah, he died from kung

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Speaker 3: fu grip?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. After he passed away, he becomes this cause celebra.

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Speaker 3: So the Manhattan media types all band together and declare

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Speaker 3: that the cabaret car because they blamed that for his

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00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: passing away, as an antique tool of repression. And if

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Speaker 3: they demand that the cabaret card code be rescinded, Journalists,

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00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 3: jazz man, comics, folk singers, they were all rally together,

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Speaker 3: inspired by Lord Buckley, and in the end New York

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Speaker 3: abolished the cabaret cards, so then Frank Sinatra could come

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Speaker 3: back nice. But anyway, after his memorial service, Dizzy Gillespie

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Speaker 3: and Ornat Coleman were there and together they basically played

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Speaker 3: his musical eulogy and played into the small hours of

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Speaker 3: the morning some of that cosmic blues baby swing it. Wow.

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Speaker 3: I'll leave you with my favorite quote of Lord Buckley.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right now, and I quote.

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Speaker 4: Before I leave you, I'd like to say to you,

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Speaker 4: people are what it is all about they are Mother

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Speaker 4: Nature's brightest flower, the sweetest, purest, most elevating thing.

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Speaker 3: That ever was.

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00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: You are groovy flowers in a garden where I am

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Speaker 4: privileged to stand and share a few moments with you.

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Speaker 2: Dig and it was dug.

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Speaker 3: So there you go. That's all I got, plus all

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Speaker 3: ready to go to take away Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: I think my ridiculous takeaway is that I'm so grateful

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Speaker 2: for for Lord Buckley and people like Lord Buckley who

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00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 2: imbue so much into the culture, and that you can

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Speaker 2: kind of go and take bits from and you see,

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00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: it's a lot if you're with that person or like

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Speaker 2: around them a lot.

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Speaker 3: I think I just be a bit.

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Speaker 2: I just vibrated a much lower frequency, I think, so, uh,

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Speaker 2: you know. But again I'm really like, I'm grateful because

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Speaker 2: you can see as you're telling the story, I can

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Speaker 2: see like the tendrils that crawl into the culture.

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Speaker 3: You can see the Robin Williams of it all totally.

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Speaker 3: That's where he got totally his voice for the genie

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00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 3: in Aladdin. It's an impression of Lord Buckley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it makes so much sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So anyway, you'll start you start to now that

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Speaker 3: you know who Lord Buckley is. You'll start to see

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Speaker 3: him in the culture. Crapping increase definitely.

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Speaker 2: What is your ridiculous take.

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Speaker 3: My ridiculous takeaway is I really should have done that

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Speaker 3: in a carry grant voice. I'm still thinking about that, Like,

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Speaker 3: why didn't I have that ready? I didn't even think

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Speaker 3: about that, Elizabeth, I may blue that one anyway, So

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Speaker 3: Asia Australian carry grant you guys all ways. You can

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Speaker 3: us Also talkbacks on the iHeart app. We dig those

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Speaker 3: and there you go. That's all I got for you.

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Speaker 3: I hope you dug it and catch your next crime.

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