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Speaker 1: Casha and the Creepies is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Body night is Marco Kaine. Are you're listening to Casha

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Speaker 1: and the Creepy. The show investigates ghosts and mystery things

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Speaker 1: over to the world while people see things that is scary.

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Speaker 1: So as far as I'm concerned, I'd stay away from

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Speaker 1: that bloody show because it's too scary and there's gotta

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Speaker 1: be a monster. Comment right through this great and kill

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Speaker 1: somebody at Casha, won't you don't kid? And I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get somethingbody else. Welcome to Casha and the Creepies

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Speaker 1: this week. Our guest is Dana Carvedy. That's the music,

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Speaker 1: and then you can are you can sing oh um

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Speaker 1: church lay just because I just did her accidentally sings

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Speaker 1: just like Neil Young, something I noticed years ago. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: this is the church Lady. I'd like to do a

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Speaker 1: little Neil Young cover for you. Oh man, look at

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Speaker 1: my life. I'm a lot like you. You do sound

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Speaker 1: just like Neil Young. I love Neil Young. One night,

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Speaker 1: Oh I know you do, and I he's you know,

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Speaker 1: a genius. Uh why did you put it? People throw

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Speaker 1: that word around, but for him, it's actually literal you're

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Speaker 1: a genius. I'm a genius. No, actually, here's a real one.

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Speaker 1: He's funny meet him. Uh yeah, many times back during

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Speaker 1: the SNL days. In fact, the night before I left

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Speaker 1: spent a couple to three days in the White House.

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Speaker 1: But with Neil really being a fan and getting to

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Speaker 1: just sitting around. He's having a little red wine, I'm

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Speaker 1: having a beer, and we're talking about um Cortez the

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Speaker 1: Killer and his guitar solo in that song, and I said,

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Speaker 1: it's it was Hendricks esque, you know, and uh then

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Speaker 1: he looked up and he said the late he saw

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Speaker 1: the late great Chris Farley at the party, and he

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Speaker 1: pointed at him and said that fat kids funnier and

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Speaker 1: ship in the great. He was funnier than he's right,

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Speaker 1: he was. He was happy, but he was the greatest.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where to begin with you. I

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Speaker 1: just watched your Hulu show, what was that called The

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Speaker 1: Dana Carvey Show. That was kind of Robert Smigle and

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Speaker 1: I were sort of resistant it took Josh Greenbaum about

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Speaker 1: a month to convince us. He came to some of

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Speaker 1: my little open mics and then he wore us down

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Speaker 1: and we finally really trusted him, and he did a

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Speaker 1: great job. You know, it was fun, it was fun

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Speaker 1: to do. I'm so sad. I was like eight or

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Speaker 1: nine at the time of the show. So you had

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Speaker 1: a show after Home Improvement that was complete punk rock, mayhem,

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Speaker 1: titty leaking, like head severing. But I can't find it anywhere.

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Speaker 1: How do I watch it? Um? I think that all

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Speaker 1: the seasons are on Crackle, by the way, because I

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Speaker 1: was somehow looking at Crackle. It's a crack, that's the problem. Well,

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Speaker 1: here's your code. You go, you put in cracker Cracker,

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Speaker 1: then you just SAYO and wait for the deep web

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Speaker 1: screen to show up. No, it's just put in cracker

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Speaker 1: dot com. I think it's all there. It's it's it's

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Speaker 1: its own podcast. How that clusterfuck happened? And uh and

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Speaker 1: how many great, great brilliant people, uh we all got

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Speaker 1: to work with and came out of that show. Louis C.

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Speaker 1: K raw Let's see, of course, Stephen Colbert and Steve Carrell,

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Speaker 1: the two Steep Yeah, so, oh my god, I didn't

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Speaker 1: trailer from Home Improvement and like the Little Boy About

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Speaker 1: to Die into you guys chopping off each other's heads

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Speaker 1: That was a Prince Prince Charles thing about. I think

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Speaker 1: Henry the Eighth I am, and he cut the heads off.

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Speaker 1: with Taco Bell. And so when I said the Letterman,

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Speaker 1: it's the Taco Bell Dana Carvey Show, he goes really

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Speaker 1: because we didn't get paid. We just thought it was funny.

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Speaker 1: it was the Quire Schuan Dana Carvey Show or Diet

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Speaker 1: you're canceled. Thanks for telling I love you. At least

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Speaker 1: I know where I am in the world. Nobody knows anymore.

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Speaker 1: your podcast next year, we can go over it. Okay. Well,

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Speaker 1: and for anybody listening, you go to Crackle and you

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Speaker 1: Carvey dot Com. It's a sony Um live streaming side,

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Speaker 1: or it's an original content site that my friend named

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Speaker 1: up in San Francisco. It was called Grouper. He came

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Speaker 1: up with Crackle. I don't know which one I prefer um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. There's so many. There's three live streaming

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Speaker 1: an audience. Right now, it's just you and me and

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Speaker 1: so because you have a podcast too, well, we're in beta.

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Speaker 1: then I that's a joke. Drat. You know, we're just

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Speaker 1: we're playing around and getting stuff together. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoy it. And I'm doing it with my

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Speaker 1: sons and my The woman who cuts my hair, you

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Speaker 1: can blame her for this. It looks fabulous. This is

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Speaker 1: pandemic hair. I haven't gotten it's I'm doing fine. I'm

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Speaker 1: hanging in there. You know, you look like you have

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Speaker 1: David Spade hair. It's a little bit back. It's yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've I have dinner with David Spade like three days

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Speaker 1: that he dropped by our dinner at Quaie. I was

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Speaker 1: emailed me and I'd heard of you, but I'm in

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Speaker 1: a different age bracket, and you said, Hi, I'm a

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Speaker 1: but we were just texting a lot for that year

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Speaker 1: I end up driving your car? Yes, you did. I

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Speaker 1: high school really long term friend. Yeah, that was so

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Speaker 1: much fun. It was fun. We laughed. We did have

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Speaker 1: the creepy part. So I grew up watching Well, I

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Speaker 1: you Wayne's World three starring me. That's brilliant. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, that's right. You play Garth's daughter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's for Halloween. It's always the long hair

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Speaker 1: And it's it's deceptively hard to do in a way

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Speaker 1: to do Garth because it's off of your brother Brad.

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Speaker 1: that's your Brad. Well, Brad and I talked to him

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Speaker 1: and he does, he did, He does really do this

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Speaker 1: just lost a lot of that on because the little

422
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Speaker 1: kid saw there gonna see some kind of fun cartoons show,

423
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: and they saw tates on the president and that also

424
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of people. But men are allowed to show

425
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: their nipples, which is the craziest thing because you actually

426
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 1: put a nipple into doing what a nipple is supposed

427
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: to do, and everybody like screams and runs and millions

428
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: and millions of people disappear. I love that we're a

429
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: half hour in and we're dissecting nipples exactly where I

430
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: thought this conversation. I said to my wife, I said,

431
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: within thirty minutes, will be dissecting male nipples and the

432
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 1: usefulness are not useful And she goes, that's crazy, and

433
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: guess who won a bet? But it was fun and I, um,

434
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: you know you kind of. I tried to be commercial,

435
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: but it made me so miserable. And I've done a

436
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: lot of things. I did a few things that I

437
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: just didn't feel good about. So I was Robert Spiegele

438
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: and I we just wanted to do the show we

439
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and ABC said, do what you want.

440
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: I so really prime Time? Yeah, go ahead and go

441
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: for it, you know. And then ABC got bought by Disney.

442
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: But it's great. The show worked at lawnsome careers and

443
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: then if people can watch it forever, so that's awesome.

444
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: See how positive I am? Yeah, years is so well adjusted?

445
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: Is that all that therapy I did? I I went

446
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: to therapy for the last five years. It helped me

447
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: a lot. That's good to me too. I've been in therapy.

448
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: Since I can remember like fully not, I think everyone

449
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: should do therapy. I think it should just be part

450
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: of like life. It makes people so much lovelier. Well,

451
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 1: the way I someone put it somewhere, I read it

452
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: somewhere is that we're all cans of beans and we

453
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: need someone else to read the label. So you know,

454
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: you could read my label better. I could maybe read

455
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: your label. But my stuff was kind of classic, um

456
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: people pleasing, passive, aggressive, um, you know, I'm a nice guy,

457
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff. And also just sometimes doing

458
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: stuff I didn't really want to do either to please people.

459
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: Stuff like that. It's a very classic structure. And the

460
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: therapist said, I said, do you meet me a lot?

461
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: She goes, I meet you all the time. I don't

462
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: meet the narcissists. They never come in because they're happy.

463
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: You know in movies where the bad guys are always

464
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: very happy. Well, Mr Bond, I guess you're you know,

465
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: because they're just narcissists. They don't they're not capable of empathy.

466
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: And it's a sort of joyous place to be. But

467
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: if you're on the empathetic structure frequency, I'll say again,

468
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: it's a good place for creating art, being funny or musical,

469
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: but living inside that empathy, feeling a lot. You seem

470
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: like someone who feels a lot. That's that makes life,

471
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: that's you know. So was that what was your number

472
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: one takeaway after two or three years about yourself? Oh

473
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: my god, I think it was like that. I was

474
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: making a list, actually, and I was when I was

475
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: watching this. That's why I keep talking about the Danna

476
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: garbish because I was like, it was making me realize

477
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: there are rules that I want to live by artistically,

478
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: and whenever I compromise those two people please, like you're saying,

479
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I end up not being as proud of my art,

480
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: and even if it does really super well, I don't

481
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: even like I'm like, that's not a pure reflection of

482
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: who I am. So it's like really reminded me to

483
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: like stick to your guns of like who you really

484
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: are and be honest and just don't ever forget like

485
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: where you came from. And I come from like loving

486
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: punk rock and funny ship, and I just can't be

487
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: somebody I'm not Like I'm supposed to be this like

488
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: thing and I'm just not that thing. Well, what's become

489
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: in vogue and I'm not. I'm completely agnostic about it

490
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: depends on the person. But to be a businessman artist

491
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: has become in vogue. You're a global brand, you're marketing.

492
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: You need a certain amount of working out in the

493
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: marketplace on some kind of kistins basis. So to think

494
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: of yourself as a business and as a global brand,

495
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: especially with with musicians, you really travel all over the world.

496
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 1: That if you if that's a natural fit for someone's personality,

497
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: God bless him. I mean, I know many comedians who

498
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: can think of themselves that way as a product that

499
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: they need to be consistent with their brand and market.

500
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: It sounds so awful, but um, whenever I found myself

501
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: in that area, I was just so miserable. Because this

502
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: may sound half flutin, but basically, all I was trying

503
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: to do the whole time was people who touched me

504
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: either made me laugh. In the sixties, I was just

505
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: in awe of comedians. I was just like their magic

506
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: people and even the rhythms that I'll do in my

507
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: stand up, the Beatles, led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, all that stuff.

508
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: My family we were into movies. I mean, if a

509
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: movie was on, like The Great Escape or in two

510
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: thousand one, watch it five six times, and so all

511
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to do is influence people that way, give

512
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: them the feeling I had, like pass it, pass it along.

513
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: And then money and fame came in. You know, well

514
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: you need money, and well I guess I should get

515
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of like, you know, you get

516
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: a corporate date for a hundred thousand, and you know,

517
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: how do I say to my sibling, Dana doesn't want

518
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: to fly? Did you go? You know, so you get

519
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: you're sort of like because all this money's coming at

520
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: you and he doesn't want and he wants to take

521
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: a break and you and you start getting so tricked out,

522
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: like well if I do that gig, I can give

523
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: it to this charity or this charity, And then you

524
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: get down that rabbit hole. And even well intended, normal

525
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: people who manage you and are your agents, they just

526
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: they're coming from such a different place. You know, when

527
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: you can't when you're making the art. I'm currently making

528
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: a new record, and I just have to like be

529
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: exactly who I am, and I can't take into consideration

530
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: with anybody else is going to think like if everybody

531
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: else thinks it absolutely sucks, I'll be fine if I

532
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: know I'd like. I like it, and I'm proud of it.

533
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: In watching the Dana Carvey Show, I was realizing that

534
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: while making minute art that I cannot compromise who I

535
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: am for anybody else, or to like to cater to

536
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: be quote unquote bigger, or to cater to like have

537
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: more fans or have a number one record. Like. To me,

538
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't equate success. To me, success is almost like

539
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: getting kicked off there. To me, that's the coolest thing

540
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,239
Speaker 1: you could have done, and you did it. And I

541
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: was a little younger and a little bit more of

542
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: a jackass, but I had a brand offer me a

543
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: lot of money, like a lot of money to make

544
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: some footwear, and I was like, all right, maybe I'll

545
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: do that. So I'm in Brazil. My friend is telling

546
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: me how if you drink your own PA, it can

547
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: be good for you, and I just was like, why not.

548
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just I'm gonna drink me on because I

549
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: want to taste it. I mean, if it's not gonna

550
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. So I drink

551
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: my p and this goes on my TV show and

552
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: the company no longer wants to make the shoes with

553
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: me perfect and I am so because it's a Christian company, okay,

554
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, I'm so happy

555
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: I drank my p. No. I love that. That's in

556
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: your book. That's like I drank my own p and

557
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: that's like a chapter. And I lost out on like

558
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: a million dollars. Well, what do you net? I mean,

559
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. All I know is everyone's very upset

560
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: with me. After the Dinner Carvey show was canceled. I

561
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: always had my stand up and stuff so I could

562
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: go make money. Um, and I was okay, but at

563
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: one point I was offered, Okay, they're gonna do Hollywood squares. Wow,

564
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: Hollywood squares. My friends from Mississippi said, Nina, that's where

565
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: careers go to die. So I said, so they go, Well,

566
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: it's says I got the kids, and because of my childhood,

567
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to be dad, you know, and

568
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: be part of the family. So I thought, they go,

569
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: it's thirty nine days of tape in l A and

570
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: in those this was twenty some year, twenty two years ago, Like,

571
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: we'll give you ten million a year. So it ended

572
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: up going five years so they offered me the Center Square.

573
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: They kept pursuing me. Whoopie Goldberg finally took it and

574
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: got the fifty million, and it's sort of no one

575
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: even remembers it, you know. I know that was for me.

576
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: It's like fifty million. You know what am I doing?

577
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: I I know so many people were working nine to five,

578
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: And it's just the weird part of having success and

579
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: being wanting to do great work, just just how you know,

580
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: or authentic work to years elf, and then having these

581
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: monetary things come at you. It is just a very strange.

582
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: I dare anyone not to feel conflicted by it, you know.

583
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 1: But I did turn down that. I turned down Taco

584
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Bell for ten million. That was right as I came

585
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: off as and now see, I would love to any

586
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: Taco Bell representatives out there listening. I'm an avid fan

587
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: of Taco Bell. But I do drink my pea, so

588
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: you drink your pa and you eat your tacobout. I

589
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just gonna write just cliff notes because

590
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm might do. It's for Esquire magazine, my podcast with Keshi.

591
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: It's it's it's not going to be any of this,

592
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, but I usually people

593
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: drink their P when they're lost in a forest. I

594
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: was in a car in Brazil. It was it was

595
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: actually like really warm, which was gross. I like, don't

596
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: know why I didn't expect it to be warm. And

597
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: I think that's the part that gross me out because

598
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: just any beverage that's like room temp. Yeah. Uh. Well.

599
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: On the Data carby show, I actually did a commercial

600
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: commercial break. I had a mountain dew and I poured

601
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: it into it and I said, what does this remind you?

602
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: You know? So I think we lost a sponsor after that.

603
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: So I basically talked about pe you drank P and

604
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: we lost two million dollars. But you have to be

605
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: true to yourself because I think that that's what you

606
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: will look back. I mean, do you look back in

607
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: fondness on how punk rock that was? Yeah? I do. Okay,

608
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: it's the same. The interesting part, and this is the

609
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: advantage that you'll have throughout your life and career. Is

610
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: it if your your boat is floated and you care

611
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: so much about liking your work, where you hear it

612
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: and go, holy sh it, I love this, that won't

613
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: leave you like you know, I was in that sort

614
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: of youthful Heyday rolling Stone magazine period. But even later on,

615
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: if I draw something or make up a song I

616
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: put on my iPhone, I'm kind of floated in the

617
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: same way. And if I share it with a couple

618
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: of friends, it's a little weird. I only discovered that

619
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years that the fame part

620
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: wasn't what got me going, you know, So anyway it'll

621
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: making the good art. You could be in Nashville at

622
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: eight five with your guitar and just singing, and you'll

623
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: just have people go crazy. But we do live in

624
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: this other age besides the branding marketing, of authenticity, and

625
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: so people if they feel that from a performer that

626
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: they are being authentic, they like that almost more than

627
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: the real show. Like the way we're talking now is

628
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: just us hanging out. So I mean that I would

629
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: love to see Neil Young and Bob Dylan having this conversation.

630
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sam, let's see, are you Neil Young

631
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: or Bob Dylan in that analogy. I guess I'll be

632
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Dylan's a little older, you can be. I don't know,

633
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: you have to pick. I think they're both like they're

634
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: both in my like trilogy, like The Father Son and

635
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit. I would say that when they You know,

636
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: when I see Neeli Young on YouTube doing Old Man

637
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: with that acoustic guitar and the guitar licks he's doing,

638
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: the chord changes the way it fits with the melody,

639
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: I kind of go, Wow, that's just that is supernatural.

640
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: It is. I mean, Dylan said he can't write the

641
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: same style of songs he did in the sixties. He says,

642
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do it anymore, you know, but

643
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: he can write other stuff. I thank you, at least

644
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: for me. I don't know if it's same with you.

645
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: But I write whatever I'm going through. So like, if

646
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: I'm going through some really amazing heartbreak or then all

647
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: those songs are really sad. But if I'm going through

648
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,479
Speaker 1: like a magical love story, then that's what the songs

649
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: are going to be about. I can't like pretend to

650
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: be super in love. If someone just broke my heart,

651
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: then I I write like the songs about murder. I

652
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: know that was a cool one. Thank you the body out,

653
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate it. That's about Brad and you got together. No,

654
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: he stayed the whole time. I just was gonna. I

655
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: was planning on his I was planning his murder, and

656
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: I tell him all the time, like how I would

657
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: murder him, and you know all the different ways I

658
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: think about murdering him. Well, I'll give you one, and

659
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: then you give me your top one. Like I've always

660
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: said to my wife, if I was going to murder you,

661
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: this side do it. We're going for a hike. We're

662
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: on a really high ridge and I go, look, honey,

663
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: look a bird. Then I would just go boom, and

664
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: I would and I would just go she slipped. I

665
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: think that they still would look at the dirt marks

666
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: and stuff, and there may be some you know, methout

667
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: hiker got you on, but that that would be if

668
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: I were to do it. That's that would be my tribe.

669
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: How would you do it? Oh my god, mind so

670
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: much more evil torturing? Well, I okay, how do I

671
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: put this? I would chop off extremities and turn them

672
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: into takas. And this isn't a fantasy where he cheats

673
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: on me and I find out, So then he has

674
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: to eat ball tacos and then I kill him and

675
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: then I bury him in the backyard. Was this episode

676
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the byeline will be ball tacos and bly.

677
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe unless you want to bring up anything. Wall

678
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: tacos is actually a great word package, Like, that's funny.

679
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: What do you have it? I had some ball tacos? Okay? Yeah. Well,

680
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: in Montana, where I'm from, they have a thing called

681
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: the Testicle Festival and it's buffalo mavels, a little bit

682
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: of hot songs. Dig Anne. But I forgot you were

683
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: from Montana. I love Montana. Montana is great, like for murderers.

684
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: I love. We went to Montana on a road trip

685
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: during quarantine in an RV and it was just the best.

686
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: It's uh yeah, it's you just want to be up there.

687
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm from the West mostly, but I've been down my

688
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: I was born in Missoula. A couple of my brothers

689
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: my parents met at University of Montana there. My other

690
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: brother was born in Big Timber. My mom grew up

691
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: in Great Falls, and uh, we go up there flathead

692
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: like whitefish. We have friends that are moving up there, well,

693
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: actually relatives, like six of them are all moving to Montana.

694
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: Would you ever go back there? Like, would you ever

695
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: move back there? Well, I'm I'm lucky enough because I

696
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: got a couple of dollars in my podcast. Remember I

697
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: was sending dinner with Alec Baldwin once he goes, I

698
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: got a couple of dollars in my pocket as a

699
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: way of saying I can. I'd like to be able

700
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: to be nomadic a little bit like I'd like to

701
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: at least have two kind of residences, but they don't

702
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: have to be fancy. I have one up in Ring

703
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: County in the forest with redwood trees. And then I know,

704
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: now my my sort of a privileged prick of first

705
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: world ding dong, dang dang, that's the house that's the

706
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: for you having two houses. I well, I you know,

707
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: we were. I don't know. I like kind of like houses.

708
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: I like to move how many house I just have one?

709
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: But I was thinking about selling my trans am and

710
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: buying an RV so then I could be like nomadic

711
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: as well, because I like just always being on the go.

712
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: I like the idea of RV trip and I like

713
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: being out on the road. I like the highway between

714
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: Reno and Winnemuca. I love yeah, like it's so sad,

715
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: you get sad in Reno, but like the best, like

716
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: the best, like Christmas lights in the day kind of sad. Yeah,

717
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: I got that. I get pangs of anxiety for arbitrary things.

718
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: Um once in a while, I'd be like this type

719
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: of time of year, like I was going to junior

720
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: college and all of a sudden when the daylight saving

721
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 1: times comes suddenly, it just feels like you should get

722
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: somewhere by like three fifteen, you know, like what is

723
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: going on? I gotta get somewhere. And that would bring

724
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: me anxiety because it gets dark so early. Well, yeah,

725
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: when it initially changes, I'm like, I feel like I

726
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: should get home, and it's like it's like one one

727
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: one third afternoon at the same thing where I'm like, oh,

728
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: it's time to be in the house, and it's like

729
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: just because it's dark outside. I don't know, it's a

730
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: weird thing. That might be natural though, like when the

731
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: sun goes down you're supposed to be sleeping. I think

732
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: it's all kind of wiring. Who are we? Where are

733
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: Brad has just given me a note we would have

734
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: like ten minutes. Ask him at least one creepy question. Okay, okay,

735
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: because this is cash and the creepies, tell me your

736
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: creepiest are you a believer in the supernatural. Um, I'm yeah.

737
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: I would say overall, if I had to say, is

738
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: there's something supernatural going on on the planet, Yes, Okay.

739
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Do you believe in aliens? Um? I I yeah, I

740
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: believe in aliens. Have they visited us? I? God, I hope.

741
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: So that'd be the greatest thing ever the whole world,

742
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: which is completely if aliens came down and there's some

743
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: guy from the Israeli Armies a general came out that

744
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 1: the basisn't it? Just that made me so happy to

745
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 1: think that could be true because everybody would let go.

746
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: I always thought if you took an Isis guy or

747
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: a hardcore Republican or a far left Democrat and just

748
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: put them in space, put them on some kind of

749
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: thing at Pluto and they could see the universe, they'd

750
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: all probably just start crying and hugging each other. So

751
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: we need aliens, so we can just go, okay, everybody,

752
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: don't take this too seriously, Aliens have come. Um. My

753
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 1: story was something that still resonates resonates with me, and

754
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 1: basically my wife and I were in our thirties. Um,

755
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: we go to say, stay at San yashidro San Cedro Ranch.

756
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: This is Coca Cola by the way, that's up near

757
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: Santa Barbara, and it's nineteen ten places and Clark Gable

758
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: was and who knows, just old fashioned bungalows. So we

759
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: just had dinner in bed at night, and I feel

760
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 1: like I'm suddenly feeling this pressure on me, like something's aided,

761
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: which I found out later is what a nightmare is.

762
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: You've talked about that, right, the horse laying on top

763
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: of you. So I felt that pressure for the first time,

764
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: like whoa, what the fuck? And then I totally woke up,

765
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: went into the bathroom with water in my face whatever,

766
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, I was an awaking dream state.

767
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: That was nothing else. I came back. I felt, even

768
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: to this day as awake as I am now. And

769
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: it came back, except this time it was more ferocious,

770
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: and then it started bouncing on me and felt angry

771
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: so once it finally released. And this is part of

772
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: the reason I've been married so long. My wife's were

773
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: in a five star hotel. She sound asleep. I go, hi, honey,

774
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: we have to leave. It's three in the morning. She said, Okay,

775
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: I love how women do that second part. You know

776
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: what men. My men might go oh, but women go kitty. Uh,

777
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: that's the woman you want to have when you have

778
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: rectile dysfunction. There's a joke. Not Um, I've been doing

779
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: this a lot, you know, just for stuff anything, Just

780
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: too many things add up. The refrigerator broke, We've got

781
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: to empty all the food out. This year's kind of

782
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: that noise just parts of life. So anyway, um, we

783
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: left that night. I was absolutely shaking with nerves and

784
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: we we it was stormy outside, and then we were

785
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: driving down the one on one and we saw a

786
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: gigantic animal upside down with its guts spilling out. And

787
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: so the whole that really stayed still stayed with me

788
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: to this day. But then we moved up to northern

789
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: California and our house was built in nineteen twelve, and

790
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: our son went in one bedroom, but then he ended

791
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: up going the other bedroom with the brother. So the

792
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: first time I had white noise, which I didn't know

793
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: what it was, I heard at FM radio, like between channels,

794
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: isn't everyone why is everyone sleeping? So went by the

795
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: time I got into the bedroom, it was no noise.

796
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: And then in that room too because a couple of

797
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: times I slept in there, and I had the experience,

798
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: same experience in only that room, which I told dan

799
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: Ackroyd about. You should get dan ackroy He loves an

800
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: alien from what I hear, Yes, like for real though,

801
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: oh he says he met an alien. I think, so okay,

802
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: this is how rumors start. I don't know. He was

803
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: very interested in this, and he said you should have

804
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: someone sweep that house or go up and that kind

805
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: of like deep Poltergeist did. And then I, you know,

806
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: I had a couple of different sightings in that house.

807
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: Well you can't just blaze over it like that um

808
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: in bed in the other main bedroom and then coming

809
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: through the wall was a girl like in a white

810
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: um dress and she just walked down the middle of

811
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: the bed. And to me seeing it, it was just

812
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 1: like and I got kind of used to these things.

813
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: I got the white noise thing a few times. I

814
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: got the thing holding me down a few times, and

815
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: after a while I just they didn't flip me out

816
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: as much. I didn't feel like I was in any danger.

817
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: So the thing holding you down traveled with you. Yeah,

818
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: it would happen in San you Cedar ranch, and then

819
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: it happened up there in this house built in nineteen twelve.

820
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: It is really old house. In this only in this

821
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: one room where my son had left that room because

822
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: he would have nightmares. So we don't know if something's

823
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: going on in that room. That would be a thing

824
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: to bring kind of seance type person in. I have

825
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: like a ghost reader, and I have these little goggles

826
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: that got on Amazon, and I fancy myself. I fancy

827
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: myself one of those people. Really wow, Well, can you

828
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: go through this screen on this zoom and just feel it.

829
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: It's four hund miles north. Let me see what I

830
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: could do. You need an exorcism of your home? And

831
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: did you have that? Right? I? Y? Did you mentioned

832
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: that one of the things I saw are you doing? Yes?

833
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: And it worked like when the thing was shaking you

834
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: and like on you did it seem still aggressive? Um? Well,

835
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: after the third or fourth time, I didn't push back.

836
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: But when I started pushing back at the sand Year

837
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: Cedar Ranch at the hotel, it was like a real

838
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: It seemed angry and was kept vibrating on top of me.

839
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: And remember this is me after I thought I was

840
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: in a waking dream, state wide awake. So that's why

841
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: it just flipped me out. I was still to this day.

842
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: But after that I had it, but not not in

843
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: an angry way. But it just does press on you.

844
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's not fun. Really, I think that you

845
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: might be in need of an exorcism. Um, well, what

846
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: was in your house? Did you ever? What was in there?

847
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: Just noises or an actual heaviness in the house. I

848
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: heard noises in the house. I thought I heard a

849
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: voice in the house. Gosh, yeah, kind of like that.

850
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 1: That's scary. It just made me, you know, it took

851
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: me from being like so into like what I was

852
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: doing and I stuff and like what I'm so busy with,

853
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: and then it made me start thinking about like externally

854
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: and afterlife, like what that means. And it just kind

855
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: of made my brain go into the universe like fully

856
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: out there. Yeah. Well, I still have dreams a few

857
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: times a year. I have different I have a lot

858
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: of adventure dreams. I have a lot of very scary dreams.

859
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: The recent one was in a grass grassy field like

860
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: an Africa, like a hundred guerrillas just look over at me.

861
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: So then I start sprinting for this house and I

862
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: got into it, and I got into the bathroom but

863
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: it wouldn't lock, and they all came in stuff like

864
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: that all all the time. Did they eat? You know?

865
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: Then I guess I woke up. I have dreams where

866
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: I can fly or I can levitate. I have a

867
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: lot of dreams, um overlooking the ocean, and then giant

868
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: waves are going and everyone's looking down and going, who

869
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: look at this serf? Wow? And then finally a wave

870
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: hits so hard it's oh, it's going over the bluff

871
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: we're in. And I guess, just maybe if you're watching

872
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,919
Speaker 1: surf movies or something, you can't say Sanya suitar rench

873
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: without sounding like you've had a couple of cocktails. That's okay, Oh,

874
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: this is just coca cola. See, this is just daddy.

875
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: You don't know me. You never knew me. That's what

876
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: drunk people always say. Never story. You think you know me,

877
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 1: but you don't. It's just a little bit of daddy.

878
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: Is just you're reminding me of um Nicolas Cage. If

879
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 1: I were to send you flowers, where would I send them?

880
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: That was what he would always say when he sees someone.

881
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: We did that Goofy movie together, We fell down in snow.

882
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: We were just drunk in the snow what was it

883
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: called Trapped in Paradise and we worked in the snow

884
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: was well. It was really fun hanging out with Nicolas Cage.

885
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: He made me laugh really hard. We just he was

886
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, the movie with Kurt Russell, Tombstone, a Western,

887
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: was out then, and in the movie he tells Billy

888
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: Bob Thornton's character to throw down, like pull a gun,

889
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, and so we that became code in the movie.

890
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: If he thought I did good in a scene that day,

891
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: he'd say, you really threw down. You sound so much

892
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: like it, but you're so good. Okay, I have one well, no,

893
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: I have two questions, but I have one real question,

894
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: then one stupid question. All right, I can't do um

895
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: impressions and that's like your that's your specialty. So I

896
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: thought I could do a Michael Caine. That turns out

897
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't actually think I can. I was wondering,

898
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: if you can teach that, I could maybe teach that.

899
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: I that was one that I consciously wanted to learn

900
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: because I love Michael Caine, and I watched Steve Coogan

901
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: do it and that, and then I started doing it,

902
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: and I have it on my phone this stuff I'll

903
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: do on my podcast where it's not very good, but

904
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: the key to it is fit. You want to try

905
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: to talk like Ketcha has a head hold, just like

906
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: you've got a code. You talk like you sort of

907
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: hold your hold your nose in a way like it's

908
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: almost like you're doing this. You could actually do that

909
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: with your head and you talk like that. I think

910
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:21,439
Speaker 1: I'm Michael Kaine. Just say Monday mon Dame, moddameame my name,

911
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: mard name is Okay, Mode Okaine is yes, not mad,

912
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: it is okay, Marko Marco Modame my name. It's think

913
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: of it phonetically. My name is Mark Mark Okay. And

914
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: and art doubt. Now you go higher, art doubt. Now

915
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: what we're talking about, Oh this bloody podcast. But that

916
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: you know my name is Mark Okay. That's not my name.

917
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: It's all the time. I have to start again by

918
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: that is buck. I can't. How about Obama? How about Obama?

919
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: This is a quicker one. Okay, God, Obama, that's all true.

920
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: Well that's all true. That's not true. Well that's not true.

921
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: That's all true. That's it. That's it, that's all true.

922
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 1: True is Michael Kaite, that's all I should sample this.

923
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: We'll do a rap song. There's no true madaeop Okay,

924
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: I have one. Really, Um, I know you asked someone

925
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: and what do you think you could live forever? If

926
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: I if I died and then woke up that I

927
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: was gonna live again. I start screaming, Yeah, I go, really,

928
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: that's just that's not true. Being dead is a highly

929
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: underrated state of being. Is that like your personal opinion?

930
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I had surgery and they put

931
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 1: me out and then I didn't dream or anything. I

932
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 1: was just and then they go, it's five hours later,

933
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that was that was? That was okay?

934
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: Like that was so relaxing. Here I can do this

935
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: for you because it's just so abstract. It's not a

936
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: very good impression, but it's a matching as celebrity with

937
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: an idea. Randomly, Jerry si felt as a serial killer.

938
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 1: Oh that's easy. He doesn't like hugs. I'm gonna cut

939
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: you upon, I'm gonna take you upont Why why are

940
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: you doing this? Because I like to cut people in man.

941
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: I like to get down to those linings and do

942
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: the thing I want to do. So the whole key

943
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: to that is that lower rhythm he does, I want

944
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: to go down them or get the things up. You're

945
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: that that that thing on the web where he saw

946
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 1: you wouldn't hug you or something that's Yes, he doesn't

947
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: like hugs, so it would make sense he's a serial killer. Well,

948
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: when I said to Jerry, said, and you're marye's your wife.

949
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: Do you have shows that you watched together? He says no,

950
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: I go do you watch TV with your wife? Why?

951
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, So it's just Gary. He's special. He special.

952
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: It was like Wayne spoiled and sign felt for what

953
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: I would put on the airplane when it got bumpy,

954
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I don't get a hug.

955
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: And now it's like PTSD. Every time I hear the

956
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: goddamn bassline, B what are you doing? I know, I

957
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: can't believe what going down that. Plus it's a good rhythm. MI.

958
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing that. I could do

959
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: Ja Lenno too. You know it's great, you know you

960
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: do the podcast and talk about the shows. It's great.

961
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: You know you'd you can't do anybody. I can't even

962
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: do like a like a British accent. Do you Cockney

963
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: is Michael Kaite. So that how about um, let's see

964
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 1: what do you think? You know, a beatle thing? What

965
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: do you think? What are you thinking? What do you thinking?

966
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: What do you think? Can? I don't know, just go home?

967
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: Do you fancy you fancy her? Fancy her fancier? Yeah? Wait,

968
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 1: you're talking about something being up a butt or something

969
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: with them? Okay, okay, that was John Lennon talking to

970
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney from Heaven. You know whether she's just this

971
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: Kanye West? What does his wife do? Well? You know

972
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: she takes pictures of a Balltom, what's so special about

973
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: the bottom? It was on a normal bottom. It's a

974
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: bottom two poor, It's like gold made a fan and

975
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: a touched a Person's enough for thought. The family takes

976
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: pictures of the bombs. That was another one. But yeah,

977
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 1: it's just a question, you know, with liver Liverpudlians must

978
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: be very curious because everything sounds like a question. Did

979
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: you go to the store. Yeah, I went to the store.

980
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: You don't sound like you're sure. Oh, I just told

981
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: you I went to the store. I think my uncle

982
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: is from Liverpool. He sounds like that he's from London. Well,

983
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: he has teeth now, but when he didn't have teeth,

984
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: sounded a lot like that. I have all the British accents.

985
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: I love the more up across ones. It sounded like,

986
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: you know, what we're trying to do here is something

987
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: that will be very special one day, and I put

988
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: it out on some sort of disc clouds. I'm wanting

989
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: the Crown. I love their access so drippingly, so dreadful,

990
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: and you're so good at them. I'm so bad that

991
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: when I try, I just like dissolved. I think we've

992
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: got I think you've got bod Nimea Bodimea Barack Obama.

993
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: That's not true. But it's not true. Well it's not true.

994
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: How do you do it? I sound like I just

995
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 1: sound like imp He was kind of tough to get

996
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: because it's not a whole lot there. It's like, now

997
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing um, Biden's like, here's the deal. Come on, folks,

998
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: let's get real. Here's a deal. Come on. Yeah, I

999
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: mean you just learn somebody new. It's really fun, you know,

1000
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: but he's he's kind of a goal one anyway. Anyways, Yeah,

1001
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: thanks for being on here. Um, would you like to

1002
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: selflessly promote yourself before you leave. Look for the Dana

1003
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: Carvey podcast very soon. And um, I've given I've been

1004
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: doing some recordings and at launch in a couple of weeks,

1005
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 1: and um, we're just we're renegades again. We don't, we don't.

1006
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: We don't have a corporate partner where it's like it's

1007
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: like because of the ABC show. No, we're just kind

1008
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 1: of doing it out there. Um, I've done. I've sent

1009
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: some sneak peeks to uh Anthony Faucci, you know, and

1010
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: he left a message your past Fauci And he left

1011
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: a message day in a coffee. This this thing is

1012
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: a piece of ship. I can't I thought COVID was bad.

1013
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 1: You are the king of all ship shows. This is

1014
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: Dr Anthony Faucci. I go, jeez, that's a tough review.

1015
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: Con't believe that. That sounds really good. Everyone should listen

1016
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, I'll be doing comedy. I don't know,

1017
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: it's for me. I have a lot of tidbit little

1018
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: things that I do all the time, and they're not

1019
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: really fully formed, and so they're just fragments of I

1020
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: have thousands of them, so I love to just play

1021
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: with them. Um in in an audio sense, I enjoy it,

1022
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: you know. So okay, well think about Wayne's World three.

1023
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: I think you and Wayne's World three we can do that.

1024
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: We can do that, and then your whole thing is

1025
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: the quest, and you you find your your dad, or

1026
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: maybe I'll play your grandfather Garth. He'll be in a

1027
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: hut on a beach, you know, and you'll be like,

1028
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: come in. Oh, yeah, my name is Girt, my hair's

1029
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: kind of weight, and I got a prostate from That's

1030
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,479
Speaker 1: a perfect place to end. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes Wayne tellt

1031
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: me to drink my own urine. Good right, good night

1032
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: by keep it creepy, keep on creeping, keep on creeping on.

1033
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: This is Dana Carton for cashing. Please keep on ving

1034
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Speaker 1: off time w