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Speaker 1: to look around, to be present while being quiet, to

435
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Speaker 1: be in the company of other people while being quiet. Um,

436
00:26:52,320 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: that would be a powerful first step. True. You also

437
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: mentioned you know, the hustle culture and and just constantly

438
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: grinding and we can go, go, go, yeah, and what

439
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: popped into my head? I wonder how much of that

440
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: is a response to feeling like we need to prove

441
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: our productivity or like a trauma or survival response. So

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00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: going back to again just generational, generationally feeling like we

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Speaker 1: have to do that we are a productive element of society. UM. Yeah,

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00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: that that popped into my head. And then you also

445
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Speaker 1: mentioned UM. Sometimes people you'll offer, you know, simple advice

446
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: and people will reject it. And I talked, UM, I

447
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: heard you talk about UM in a previous interview. How

448
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: sometimes if we don't know something, will reject it. In

449
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: in the example you actually use, sometimes we simply reject

450
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Speaker 1: joy because we haven't known that or felt that, or

451
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: maybe even seeing that UM within our household or within

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Speaker 1: our families. And again it's because we're constantly moving in

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Speaker 1: that survival UM survival mode. So going back to families, UM,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like, you know, not saying that within

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Speaker 1: the bipop communities UM, that we have stronger family ties,

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Speaker 1: but I will say that in bipot communities UM, family

457
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Speaker 1: is truly the cornerstone. Right, So when dealing with you

458
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: step out into the world and you're dealing with racism

459
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: and systemic oppression, coming home to your family has has

460
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Speaker 1: been that cornerstone that has helped you continue moving. But Debbie,

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Speaker 1: what do you do or what advice do you have

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Speaker 1: to offer for people who I feel like sometimes coming

463
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Speaker 1: home to their family also isn't safe. So, in this

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Speaker 1: era of hashtag protect your peace, um, how is it

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Speaker 1: possible to protect your peace but also um, not necessarily

466
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: desert your family when you feel like your family isn't

467
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: on that same healing path or maybe even awareness about

468
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: mental health. Ye, beautiful, beautiful question. We have to connect

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Speaker 1: to our peace first before we can ever consider or

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Speaker 1: manage or respond to another person's lack of peace. So

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Speaker 1: it's really important that you know, especially in service to

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Speaker 1: this question, if you are on a path of wanting

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Speaker 1: to have a different experience in your life or in

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Speaker 1: your family structure, making a commitment to that saying I

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Speaker 1: will do whatever is necessary to have the experiences I

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Speaker 1: know I want to have, to have the ability to

477
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Speaker 1: expand to do something differently. You know, UM, when you

478
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Speaker 1: connect to a higher consciousness, when you connect to a

479
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: deeper awareness about yourself, your impact on yourself, your impact

480
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: in the world. There are layers and levels to how

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Speaker 1: you will reintegrate to the rest of your life with

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Speaker 1: people who not be doing the work. And it's so

483
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Speaker 1: important to feed yourself to such an excess on this

484
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Speaker 1: spiritual journey that you are able to greet others from

485
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: your overflow and not from your So you're not taking

486
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Speaker 1: from you to be able to stand in that you

487
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Speaker 1: are experiencing that with an overflow and with compassion, because

488
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Speaker 1: the fact is, not everyone is going to change in

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Speaker 1: this lifetime. Not everyone is going to have the opportunity

490
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Speaker 1: or the ability to heal through things that have happened

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Speaker 1: to them. And something that has been powerful for me

492
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: is shifting into such a deep witnessing and compassion of

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Speaker 1: that right because if I have the ability to meet

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Speaker 1: myself with that courage and the practical, disciplined behavior that's

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Speaker 1: necessary for change, and someone else isn't. Something I'm for

496
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Speaker 1: sure is even if they don't say it, how much

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Speaker 1: that hurts, right, how much living like that is actually

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Speaker 1: very challenging. Even if this is the person that is

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Speaker 1: the antagonist of your life, that's a challenging life to

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Speaker 1: be in, and so one recognizing that, so you can

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Speaker 1: make it not personal. Because as you establish boundaries, people

502
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: will climb them, people will want to bypass them, and

503
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: coming into a space of recognizing that that is their trained,

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Speaker 1: learned behavior is not personal and looking through the lens

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Speaker 1: of how challenging it is for you to change and

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Speaker 1: knowing is that person doing the same work as I am?

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Speaker 1: Are they doing all of these things that I'm doing

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Speaker 1: that are very challenging for me? Mostly the answer is no.

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00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: And if it's no, you know, being realistic and saying, well,

510
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Speaker 1: how could I expect a different response? It's not about

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Speaker 1: them changing, It's about me changing, changing the way I

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Speaker 1: relate to their trauma and or choosing to distance myself

513
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Speaker 1: from it, because that is a very real choice that

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Speaker 1: can be made by each of us. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to stay in something because you've always been in it.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And I feel like a lot of times

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Speaker 1: when we embark on these these journeys, um, whether it's

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Speaker 1: mental health or just overall improvement, a lot of times

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Speaker 1: you want to kind of drag people along with us,

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00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: um or like put on that superhero cape and like

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00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: when we talk about some of our our closest family

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Speaker 1: members or our friends. UM, So I understand what you

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00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: mean as far as accepting where they are and understanding

524
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: and recognizing I mean, gosh, if I'm if I'm doing

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Speaker 1: all this work and it's this hard for me, I

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Speaker 1: can only imagine you know, um, you know, are they

527
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Speaker 1: putting in that same amount of work? But how do you?

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Speaker 1: And I feel like I'm asking a question within the question,

529
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: how do you accept someone for or maybe it's more so,

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Speaker 1: how do you resist the urge not to want to

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Speaker 1: you know, pull them along and and just help them

532
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: and show them. I mean, your your life could be

533
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: so much better. Let me help you. Um, how do

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Speaker 1: you and how have you manage I guess personally um

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: with close friends or family members and kind of recognizing, gosh,

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00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: I love you, but I have to dis to myself,

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00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: you know. As honorable as that sounds and feels, it's

538
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: actually very very um sometimes deceptive self sabotage. This idea

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00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: that we're someone else's savior, right, this idea that we're

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00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: charged with being a superhero and carrying someone on our back,

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Speaker 1: or that we are meant to fix them. Very often

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00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: that is an extra layer of our own trauma, our

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00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: own coping mechanisms, and our tools of avoidance. You know,

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Speaker 1: I for the first few years on this journey, especially

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Speaker 1: as someone who was kind of on this journey before

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00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: UM mental health was really coined or like this training

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00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: or it became mainstream, and before uh, you know, everyone

548
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: had access to the books and the memes and the things.

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00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: It can mean doubly isolating. It can be very lonely.

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00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: Make no mistake, you know. It is frustrating because you're

551
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: understanding the depth of UM, the extreme polarities about being alive, joy, grief, hardship, happiness,

552
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: Like we are always in between two extremes. So one

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00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: kind of really challenging yourself. What is my obsession with

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00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: making someone else change or getting them to get it?

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00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: Can I turn my gaze inward? You know? Is that

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00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: actually called to come back to self and to stop

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00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: looking at someone through my judgments Because even though they

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00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: are quote unquote good judgments, right like you to want

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00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: more for yourself, I want you to have more, it's

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00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: also a judgment because we're saying I don't have faith

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00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: or belief that that person can do it for themselves.

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00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't make your belief that their life is perfectly

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00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: disign for them and that they will connect with the

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00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: tools if it is on their path and supposed to

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00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: be possible. UM. So I think always turning the gays

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Speaker 1: in word and choosing to not be filled with frustration

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00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: for another's life choices and behaviors, but turning that gaze

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00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: towards If I don't like that, what's another choice I

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Speaker 1: can make? Right? I mean, that's like that was like

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00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: an indirect read, like, oh my god, that thank you

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00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: for that? And every I feel like every time you

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00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: say something, every time you drop a gym girl, I'm like,

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00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: I just have to receive it. It's like a deep inhale. Um.

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00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: So thank you. I do want to acknowledge. We got

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Speaker 1: a few questions from the audience, So someone said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I loved hearing your perspective on compassion. How do you

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00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: shift your default from personal anger, bitterness, pain, et cetera

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00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: um to a place of more empathy and compassion and

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00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: thoughts on that. Oh yes, thank you for that and

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00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: whoever shared it. You have to get in your practice.

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Speaker 1: You know something that I feel is a true responsibility

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: of mine to share when I speak. Is that growth,

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00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: real change, an ability to be a version of yourself

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00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: you haven't been yet. It is not done in a

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00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: weekend of vision boarding. It is not done by just

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00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: listening to my conversation today. It is by listening to

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00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: this conversation and reflecting on it over time, and then

588
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: taking things you heard and putting them an active process

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00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: with you in every single day. Coming into a space,

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00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: especially if your intention is to be in a space

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00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: where you hold more empathy and compassion for yourself and others,

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00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: you have to build a structure that supports that intention.

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00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: You have to be clear and say out loud that

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00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 1: that is your intention, and create some processes UM, whether

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00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: that is at home, personal meditation, opportunities to have nourishing

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00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: experiences for yourself, reading books, journaling your thoughts, having expression

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: about the things in your life, and or experiencing you know,

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00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: UM therapy whatever type that is needed, whether that is cognitive, somatic,

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00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: DPT for some, there's so many different kinds of therapy,

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00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: or group therapy, or or seeking outside council. You know,

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00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: you have to actually make all of those things daily

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00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: choices and part of the new ways you'll be experiencing

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00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: yourself and your life regularly to be able to live

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00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: from that space. And it does not take as long

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Speaker 1: as you'd imagine, but it does take thought and intention

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Speaker 1: and I think you um when you say thought and

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Speaker 1: intention and you. You've touched on this many times to

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00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: just being alone with ourselves, and when we think about

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00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: how often we truly avoid being alone with ourselves, and

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times even now, we we

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00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: think about, um, you know, listening to music as therapeutic

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00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: and just always kind of having some sort of background noise,

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00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: But how often are we truly sitting alone with our

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00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: own thoughts? And I feel like that truly is kind

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00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: of the first key and really understanding who you are,

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00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: your desires, your wants, and like you said, uncovering that

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00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: true personality and unpacking maybe what was imprinted in diving

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Speaker 1: into who you truly are. Yes, another question that came

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Speaker 1: in so someone said, Um, Debbie, I'm an impact and

620
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: can feel that your message is resonating with so many

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00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: people watching. But can you also touch on living and

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00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: acting in vibrational alignment with what you are looking for?

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Speaker 1: So I eat the law of attraction. I found when

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00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: talking to many there's about their own awakening journey, that

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00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: this is a piece that many people miss. Yeah, absolutely,

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00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: it is. So my response to this, and I think

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00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: I experience it um similarly but slightly different to the

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00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: law of attraction. I believe in aligned choice making. And

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Speaker 1: so if you are clear that you want your life

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Speaker 1: to be different, if there has been awarenesses that have

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00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: come through, and if there have been real consideration and

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00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: thought about how you make this happen day today, awareness

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00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: and alignment in your choices and in your daily behavior

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00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: and action are what really support that vibrational alignment that

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00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: allow you to become a magnetic presence in this world,

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00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: that allow you to have experiences that, um, the words

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00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: I used for myself are shrouded in a lot of

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00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: grace and ease. When you've admitted to wanting change and

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00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: there is an intention set and you are being very

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00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 1: intentional about your personal behavior always matching your intention. We

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00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: cannot control others. So I am not saying that people

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Speaker 1: are not going to try you right like I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that people aren't gonna still become ring up running

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Speaker 1: up to you with the exact things that I've been doing.

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Speaker 1: But we notice is that when you stay in your integrity,

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Speaker 1: when you stay in your aligned choices, very quickly, that

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Speaker 1: shifts very eally. You start really connecting to a higher

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Speaker 1: version of even the people that you know, and you

649
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Speaker 1: start calling in and making space for people that are

650
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: much more of a vibrational fit for your life, more

651
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: connected to the level of consciousness that you wish to

652
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: be living in. And so those day to day choices

653
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: of really staying in personal integrity, making a higher choice,

654
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: not a codependent choice, right, not a nice voice, and

655
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: I know something because I think I'll be perceived by

656
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: another in this way, I'm making the choice that is

657
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: the best fit for my intention, and I am not

658
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: causing harm to others. That vibrational alignment ushers in everything.

659
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: So I have recognized in myself and in clients and

660
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: in many people that I've worked with over the years.

661
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: It leads to an ease in your healing process. It

662
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: leads to a rapid amount of breakthrough thoughts, which enhances

663
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: your creativity and enhances your own ability to experience yourself.

664
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: And you begin to notice that the types of experiences

665
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: that you kept repeating with people, whether that was maybe

666
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: um having a consistent menu of betrayals in your life,

667
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: having to consist any of maybe friends that don't have

668
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: the emotional intelligence that you do or the heart that

669
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: you do, You start to notice that that is naturally

670
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 1: being cast aside, and that um, how your choices and

671
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: how your versions of experiences begin to come in effortlessly

672
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: really through no um, no extreme seeking of yours. You

673
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: are drawing these things to you. But it all happens

674
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: because of who you're choosing to be consistently. M wow,

675
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: and I think podcast episode I need this audio. This

676
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: is you are so incredible with me. Thank you. I

677
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: would be honor Debbie. UM. But you talked about, you

678
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: know a lot of times how we find ourselves kind

679
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: of repeating cycles, UM. And it reminds you, honestly of

680
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: one of my favorite UM gospel songs about cycles. UM.

681
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: And in the song it states, you know, the devil

682
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 1: learns from your mistakes even if you don't. And within

683
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: this conversation, okay, now I started thinking about, like what

684
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,800
Speaker 1: the devil watching like generations of us, right and repeating

685
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: those same cycles and giving us those same lessons, but

686
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: even within ourselves, UM, consciously trying to break those cycles

687
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: and learn. You talked about, you know, repeated betrayals and

688
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: understanding you know, why am I being presented with the

689
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: same lessons and how can I break that cycle? UM?

690
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Speaker 1: That's really powerful? Thank you. Uh. Maybe I did also

691
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: want to ask, do you have any tangible resources or

692
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: like favorite books are and go free to drop. You

693
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: know the title of your book and your cards and

694
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: all that, UM, but any tangible UM items that people

695
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: can build UM can use to build their own toolbox

696
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: of daily practices for our own mental health. And also

697
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: did want to UM let the audience know we have

698
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Speaker 1: about ten minutes left for questions or Debbie leads it

699
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Speaker 1: into meditation, so if you want to submit those, but yeah,

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00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: any tangible resources that you that you have for us. Absolutely,

701
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 1: I think first I would UM shameless not shameless plug,

702
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: but I would definitely recommend my podcast and what I

703
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: really love about my podcast. So some of the background

704
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: is I am a meditation teacher, i am a trauma

705
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: informed healer, I'm an energy healer some other things as well.

706
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: But everything we talk about on that show is from

707
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: that very very practical lens of how can I connect

708
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: to this information and live it? How can you make

709
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: this useful and of service to myself and others right now?

710
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: And on the show UM, sometimes it's just me talking

711
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 1: and I'm answering questions or doing meditations, but I really

712
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: seek out all of the emerging and often unknown thought

713
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: leaders in this space of wellness across a really multidimensional view. So,

714
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, when I think of wellness the way that

715
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: we speak to it publicly now, it's very centered on

716
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: mental health. But I believe in the pillars of well being.

717
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 1: I believe that we have to have a holistic lens

718
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: for everything that we want to manifest in our life

719
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: with which means meeting it mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually

720
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: and so on that show we touch on, we talked

721
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 1: about psychedelics and leading information in the psychedelic field with

722
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: experts in that space of how that extends itself to healing.

723
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: I have spoken with somatic therapists, with psychotherapists, with shamans,

724
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: with medicine, women, with elders who have been doing this

725
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: work in indigenous spaces for decades. We talk about intimacy,

726
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: we talk about you know, so many different layers of

727
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 1: how complex sometimes our experiences show up in our lives.

728
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: So that is something that I really love about being

729
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: able to do that show in that way with the

730
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: Black Effect Network. I would also recommend you know, there's

731
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: so many gorgeous books that can kind of really begin

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00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: to your consciousness. I believe in looking for books that

733
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: are about a higher awakening, that are specifically about conscious

734
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: us and so UM. Dr Deepak Chobra is a phenomenal,

735
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: phenomenal resource for that. His life's work has been a

736
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: blessing to myself and so many and he you know,

737
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: he's written nearly a hundred books in the course of

738
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 1: his life. Some things that people don't know is that

739
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, in a lot of his books he explores

740
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: consciousness through not just wisdom traditions, but you know a

741
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: book that he has a few books on Christ, on

742
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: Jesus and Christ consciousness and your Veda and you know

743
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: Vedic philosophy, quantum physics. Those books are so powerful. I

744
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: think start with UM the seven spiritual Laws of Success,

745
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: because I think those laws really begin to expand us

746
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: in a way UM that has a lot of ease

747
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: to it. To understand um our ability as creators in

748
00:46:55,120 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: our own life too create new pathways for ourselves. UM.

749
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: I also really recommend my dear friend Resumminicum's books. He

750
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: has uh my Grandmother's Hands that I mentioned, and he

751
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: also has his latest book, The Quaking of America, which

752
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: is really exploring this intersection of spirituality and social and

753
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: racial justice. Another book that I really love right now,

754
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: especially from more of a feminine point of view, would

755
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: be Elizabeth Lesser's book Cassandra Speaks and exploring the intersectionality

756
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: of spirituality, awakening to consciousness, and feminism. So there's there's

757
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: so many different ways to approach this work, but those

758
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: books I think are really powerful. One more by Elizabeth Lesser,

759
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: a book that I love is called Broken Open. I

760
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: think it's a really gorgeous way to shift your understanding

761
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: of pain you have experience in your life and how

762
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: to really use that as a fuel for more. Thank you,

763
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna sprinkle one in there too, UM from

764
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: an amazing conversation that you had with Dr Rita Walker. Um.

765
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: So Dr Rita Walker, psychologist, researcher, um, but the author

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00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: of a book that I will recommend UM on, an

767
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: Unapologetic Guide to Black Mental Health. True. So, Debvie, I

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00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: just want to thank you. Someone says, you know, I

769
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: have tears in my eyes, UM, just listening to you,

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00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: so thank you so much for being here. And before

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00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: we get into the meditation, just want to reiterate the

772
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: importance of UM this session and why I asked you

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00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: to join us. Today. So UM, going back to the

774
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: conversation that you had with Dr Rita Walker, you all

775
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 1: talked about UM, this element of forced resilience UM and

776
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: MYOP communities. I think you've done such a phenomenal job

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00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: of talking us through UM just how much that can

778
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: impact and really imprints on us UM, but also recognizing

779
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: the importance of awareness forgiveness UM and how to embark

780
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: on our mental health journey. So thank you so so

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00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: much for sharing UM sharing that, and then you also

782
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the complex post traumatic stress UM.

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Speaker 1: So thank you for being here with us today and

784
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: before we go into the meditation, is there anything else

785
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: that you would like to I guess leave the leave

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00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: the guests with before we get into our zone. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would share, you know, just really spend time thinking

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00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: where in my life can I slow down if I

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00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: get present enough, you know, is there opportunity to walk

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00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: slower sometimes? Is there opportunity as I'm rushing through my

791
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: house or for those that have children, as I'm getting

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00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, my children ready to not have to feel

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00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: so frantic about it, to heat a little bit of

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00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: different language in the way that I speak to myself

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00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: and the way that I speak to my children or others,

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00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: you know, is their way to slow down in the

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00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: present moment. Sometimes that's not possible, and I want to

798
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: honor that, But in some moments it really is, and

799
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: we don't recognize it possible to do that, just start

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00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: thinking that thought, seeing where it leads you day to

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00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: day in your day choices, your daily interactions, the small moments,

802
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: how quickly you may be making your coffee, the energy

803
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: you are giving off if you're somewhere ordering a coffee,

804
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: you're walking as their opportunity to put my back a

805
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: little bit straighter as I do, is there own to

806
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: connect to my breath and to slow down, especially when

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00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: it's just me by myself. Those moments give you the

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00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: powerful ability to start shifting your bigger life choices and

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00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: the bigger ability to play with time, to be really

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00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: present in the things that matter to you. Because one

811
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: of the hardships of um sometimes feeling like you're in

812
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: a battle with your mental or emotional health. That robs

813
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 1: you of the good moments too, Because we are ourselves

814
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: to move so quickly through moments of discomfort that our

815
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: bodies and brains and hearts now move really quickly through

816
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: the good stuff too through the joy, and so we

817
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: don't even get to feel that, and we deserved to

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00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: feel that when it's present. Absolutely, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you. And I think this session has done a

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Speaker 1: really great job of UM putting answer perspective. So at

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Speaker 1: most imports, we really like to approach to diversity, equity

822
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: and inclusion UM from a lens of empathy. And so

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00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: I think today with you sharing again just the impact

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Speaker 1: that UM some communities have had to face for centuries,

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Speaker 1: and how that has impacted mental health and the barriers

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Speaker 1: for generations to come, and how we're dealing with that

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Speaker 1: generational trauma and grief and UM now I'm barking on

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Speaker 1: these different healing practices. I think that does a great

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Speaker 1: job of just setting perspective so people can understand, UM,

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00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: you know why there are certain barriers for certain communities

831
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Speaker 1: when it comes to mental health and in those journeys.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much, Debbie, and I am now

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Speaker 1: going to go backstage while you lead us through UM

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Speaker 1: a meditation for let's say, a session to over about

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Speaker 1: nine minutes, maybe five to six minutes or so beautiful. Okay,

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Speaker 1: everyone that can connect to the sound of my voice

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Speaker 1: right now that is joining us. And want to invite

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00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: you to notice your body before we close your eyes.

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Speaker 1: So wherever you happen to be sitting, you may be

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00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: in more of an upright chair similar to myself. You

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00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: may have found a little comfort on the ground. I

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00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: want to just invite you to get a little more comfortable.

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00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: So it just here the mean, if that feels good,

844
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: notice your body. Allow your spine to come into a

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00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: space that feels upright, strong and supportive, and allow your

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00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: belly in front of you to be soft. So it

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00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: really just let your stomach go a little and let

848
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: your spine be as straight and supportive as it can be.

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00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: And I want to invite you now to gently close

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00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: your eyes. And as you gently close your eyes, connect

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00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: to that body. And now come into your body and

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00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 1: connect to your breath. And as you're sitting now, it

853
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: might feel comfortable to bring one hand forward and connect

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00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: the palm of that hand to your heart's ace, or

855
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: it might feel comfortable to have both of your hands

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00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: poems up resting on your thighs in a state of receiving.

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Speaker 1: And here we're going to connect to a very simple

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00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:21,280
Speaker 1: but powerful box breath. This is a system of four

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00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: seconds four times. So when I begin this breath process,

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Speaker 1: we will inhale through our nose for four seconds. Well,

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Speaker 1: then hold that breath at the top for four seconds.

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Speaker 1: Well then slowly release the breath through our nose for

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Speaker 1: four seconds. And then we'll hold our breath again at

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Speaker 1: the bottom for four seconds. And we will do that

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Speaker 1: together three times in a row. I'll keep the count

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Speaker 1: for us. Allow yourself to begin the inhale in through

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Speaker 1: your nose, now why and two three four hold the

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Speaker 1: breath two three four release through your nose two three four,

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Speaker 1: hold up the bottom two three four. Begin you're next

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Speaker 1: inhale here two three four hold it out the top

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Speaker 1: two three four and release through your nose two three

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Speaker 1: four and hold at the bottom two three four. Begin

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Speaker 1: your next in hell here, counting silently in your own mind,

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Speaker 1: hold it release m hm, hold and I gently returned

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Speaker 1: to a breath that feels nourishing in your body at

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Speaker 1: your own pace. I still gently closed m And from

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Speaker 1: this space, let's bring your awareness to the very top

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Speaker 1: of your head, your crown, and slowly begin to scan

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Speaker 1: from the inside out, slowly moving from the top of

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Speaker 1: your head down own noticing your ears, your jaw, Is

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Speaker 1: there opportunity to relax your jaw here, release your face

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Speaker 1: down your neck now noticing your shoulders, is there opportunity

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Speaker 1: to release and relax your shoulders. Spine still straight and supportive,

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Speaker 1: belly still soft, Breath gently flowing in and out from

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Speaker 1: your chest, moving down now your chest, noticing your heart,

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Speaker 1: greeting it, moving down to your elbows, to your waist,

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Speaker 1: noticing and releasing your hips, the tops of your legs,

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Speaker 1: your knees, mhmm, your calves, your ankles, your feet, your toes.

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Speaker 1: Taking a nice deep breath in here, nourishing all of

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Speaker 1: your organs and releasing and connecting to your breath, bringing

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Speaker 1: your awareness to the center of your chest, the very

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Speaker 1: center of your heart and your heart space. And now

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Speaker 1: I'm going to bring forward the four soul questions. And

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Speaker 1: as I say each question, allowed allow yourself to ask

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Speaker 1: the question silently internally to yourself, without trying to fill

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Speaker 1: it with an answer. Who am I? Who am I?

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Speaker 1: What do I really want? What do I really want?

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Speaker 1: What is my purpose? What is my purpose? How can

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Speaker 1: I serve? How can I serve? And releasing the questions,

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Speaker 1: taking it deep in hell, here in through your nose.

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Speaker 1: Try for six seconds one, two, three, four, five six,

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Speaker 1: releasing through your mouth with a sigh. We'll do that

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Speaker 1: breath one more time together, keeping your own count here.

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Speaker 1: M hm mh. Coming back into the present moment, waking

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Speaker 1: your body up, wiggling your toes, wiggling your fingers, shaking

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Speaker 1: out your shoulders, coming into the present moment. The light

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Speaker 1: in me recognizes and honors the light in you. Taking

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Speaker 1: a brief bow for myself and others generally, opening your

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Speaker 1: eyes and not mistake m M. I love that conversation.

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Speaker 1: Thank you once again to Molson, to Whitney for this

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Speaker 1: dynamic conversation that you also courageously had within your workspace,

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Speaker 1: within your corporation, very impactful corporation in the world. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for letting me have a space to expand on

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Speaker 1: thoughts and ideas that are incredibly important to me and

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Speaker 1: to my work in the world. It's a big love

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Speaker 1: to you, Molson, grow, big love to you Whitney. You

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Speaker 1: enjoyed this conversation and especially if it really resonated as

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Speaker 1: something you think should be heard in your work space,

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Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and encourage you and give

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Speaker 1: you that permission maybe drop this conversation in the Slack channel.

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Speaker 1: Drop this conversation at the next meeting and really begin

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Speaker 1: to explore and dissect and unpack some of things that

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Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to talk about. Leave a comment

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Speaker 1: and if I've started rating, if you feel so, calls

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Speaker 1: and if you have the band with today and we

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Speaker 1: will be back next week. Your soul work for this

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Speaker 1: week is suggest think of three things that you found

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Speaker 1: interesting in this conversation or that resonated or that led

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Speaker 1: you to another place of yourself, and write down the

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Speaker 1: thoughts that you're experiencing right now. Catch you next week,

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Speaker 1: Big Love. Hey, find me on social Let's connect at

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Speaker 1: Debbie Brown. That's Twitter and Instagram, or go to my

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Speaker 1: website Debbie Brown dot com. And if you're listening to

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