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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the show. We bring you

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Speaker 1: inside the Hundai Texans Radio studio at NRG Stadium, which

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Speaker 1: is busy with organized team activities, OTAs and mini camp

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Speaker 1: coming up next week and then a gigantic break for

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Speaker 1: the players until training camp begins sometime in late July,

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Speaker 1: the week of the twenty first. At some point we'll

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Speaker 1: have training camp practices. We will keep you posted. Don't worry,

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Speaker 1: you'll hear from us.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are worried because they hear, Hey,

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Speaker 1: CJ Stroud not throwing.

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Speaker 2: What's he doing? What's happening? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's hear from the head coach on the subject,

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Speaker 1: as he greeted the media after practice today.

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Speaker 3: First off, I know everybody's gonna ask first, CJ not

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Speaker 3: throwing again. There's no concerns with CJ's just general soreness.

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Speaker 3: We're taking exhal precaution with him, but he'll be good

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Speaker 3: to go. No concerns on my end there really excited

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Speaker 3: the way our guys are working and competing out at practice.

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Speaker 3: When you see a good team, what excites me as

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Speaker 3: you're seeing both sides make plays offense. Defense is a

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Speaker 3: lot of back and forth, guys making plays. He's so

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Speaker 3: really excited to see where our team are here in

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Speaker 3: our second week of practicing. They're really growing, developing, taking

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Speaker 3: the steps we need to take. And it's fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: Well, it is fun to watch, Johnny and I really

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Speaker 1: enjoy watching some practice out there. And there's the head

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Speaker 1: coach reacting to CJ. Stroud questions and he got more

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Speaker 1: of them. We're not going to play all the reaction

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Speaker 1: because it's the same stuff general soreness. But Johnny, there's

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Speaker 1: the head coach explaining some things, and I think the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing to take away from whatever he said is

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Speaker 1: take his word for it. He'll be ready whenever ready

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Speaker 1: is required, He'll be ready. And that's what we have

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Speaker 1: to do. Take his word for it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing else we can do at this point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's really it.

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 4: And just listening to Brandon and seth On on Supports

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Speaker 4: Radio six ten, and it's CJ's shoulder issues coinciding with astros,

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Speaker 4: Tommy john surgeries and the Alvarez hand issue, like all

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Speaker 4: of that just gives you like this injury PTSD of like, well,

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Speaker 4: wait a second, the astros in the situation with Alvarez. Wait,

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Speaker 4: we just found out he had a broken bone, Like

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Speaker 4: you're not telling you. So I do think there's that

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Speaker 4: with injuries and and look, teams, teams are gonna protect

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Speaker 4: their guys. They're gonna protect their players, and they're gonna

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Speaker 4: do everything possible to make sure that they don't throw

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Speaker 4: them under the bus or uh, you know, portray something

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Speaker 4: that isn't there. We over the last three years, and

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Speaker 4: obviously you knew to Meko before I was able to

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Speaker 4: meet him when he became the head coach of twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty three. I think we speak pretty fluent Demico at

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Speaker 4: this point. Yeah, and so just listening to what he

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Speaker 4: had to say, Oh, it'll be fine, like CG will

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Speaker 4: be fine, Like I get that feeling. If coach had

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Speaker 4: bigger concerns, I think he would it wouldn't be oh

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Speaker 4: my god, I'm terrified of whether CJ can be ready

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Speaker 4: for training camp or not. It would sound different. It

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Speaker 4: would sound a whole heck of a lot different than that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it would. So from that, I'm kind of like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I feel I feel all right. Just want to see

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Speaker 4: seven get back healthy. I've said this, I said this,

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Speaker 4: the first day of OTAs when he didn't he didn't

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Speaker 4: work out, and people were kind of like what and there, Look,

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Speaker 4: there are a lot of things that can be I

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Speaker 4: don't want to say wrong, but when you throw a football,

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Speaker 4: you throw a baseball for a long time sometimes and

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Speaker 4: I know I had this, you can have. You can

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Speaker 4: have dead arm, you can have you know, your rotator

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Speaker 4: can be tweaked. You know your elbow might hurt. You know,

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Speaker 4: there could be all different kinds of things that are

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Speaker 1: But people's objecting objection to that is it's May June, right, right,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, right, but you're just trying to And coach

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Speaker 1: said the very first OTA's like, look, everybody's kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that would.

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Speaker 4: Kind of fall into that category of getting ready for

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Speaker 4: this season. Look, we can take how many throws do

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Speaker 4: you think in OTAs do you think you make just

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Speaker 4: playing catch, throwing one on, throwing seven on seven throwing

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably a hundred day.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so say it's one hundred a day, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so one hundred a day.

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Speaker 2: How many OTAs. They have like four three four a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's just say you can take one hundred

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Speaker 4: throws times save five days. That's five hundred throws that

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Speaker 4: you can just save on his arm through this time

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Speaker 4: of year.

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Speaker 2: And look, I know there's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I know there's a lot to work on and there's

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Speaker 4: a lot to have to go through mentally, knowing the offense,

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Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff. That's that's got to be

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Speaker 4: something that they work on behind closed doors and they

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Speaker 4: on a field and do all that during training camp.

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Speaker 2: This is the time to totally be ready.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some reps and all that, and I get

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Speaker 4: all that, But say you take five hundred throws off

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Speaker 2: Like that, that's a lot.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you just think about all the throws you

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Speaker 4: make during a season seventeen weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot.

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Speaker 4: So you take five hundred or so off his plate

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Speaker 4: for a little while, build up and work on that

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Speaker 4: you have no problems during the season.

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Speaker 1: I hope so now too, what he is doing is

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Speaker 1: notable because they do offensive and defensive install.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's definitely operational in that.

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Speaker 1: So he's getting to know the new offense, the play calls,

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Speaker 1: the protections, he's doing all of that work still, right,

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Speaker 1: They are definitely doing that, so he's getting It's more

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Speaker 1: than just mental reps watching, He's participating in those activities.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's really going to help him. He

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Speaker 1: has plenty of time to get into throwing rhythm. He's

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Speaker 1: done it before, I'll do it again. They got to

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Speaker 2: We'll see if he throws next week in mini camp. Yep.

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Speaker 1: I doubt he throws again this week, but you'd never know.

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Speaker 1: But next week mini camp maybe and maybe not, and

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Speaker 1: maybe we wait till training camp when we see him throw.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that I was kind of alluding

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Speaker 4: to with with arm issues is sometimes something may not hurt.

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Speaker 2: The right way of saying this, it may not hurt.

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Speaker 4: You just know something isn't right because you're you're lacking

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Speaker 4: what you think is a zip. I talked about a

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Speaker 4: dead arm, like you can have a dead arm, like

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Speaker 4: nothing's really hurt. Like I would throw a ball and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't didn't hurt me to throw, But

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Speaker 4: I knew, man, I don't have the same sauce on

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Speaker 4: this as I thought I did.

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Speaker 2: Right, So there can be a lot of different things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not pain, but you know, something isn't quite right,

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Speaker 4: and really, what's the only thing that can help you

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Speaker 2: It's rest. So look, we don't really know.

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Speaker 4: We know as it's been reported by sources that it's

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Speaker 4: you know, shoulder tightness. I think Dinko said something like that,

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Speaker 4: general general soreness. The only real cure for general soreness

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and hope that hope.

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Speaker 4: That he can get back thrown this summer because I

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Speaker 4: know they go out, they've gone off to the UCLA,

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Speaker 4: they've gone out to Los Angeles, and they've done some

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Speaker 2: I don't know this for a fact.

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Speaker 1: But my theory is when the quarterbacks and receivers go

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Speaker 1: away to throw, it's the bonding and the camaraderie and

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Speaker 1: timing they're getting, because timing, I think has to be

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Speaker 1: within the framework of the offense, but I could be

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Speaker 1: wrong about that. It all helps, It all helps, as

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Speaker 1: long as it doesn't wear and tear on the shoulder

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Speaker 1: the head coach. That's the explanation on CJ. We saw

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Speaker 1: another OTA practice today. Plenty of different things to comment on,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to some of that stuff, but right now,

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Speaker 1: as promised.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Peatree Nickel's safety.

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Speaker 1: He's listed as a safety and he's a Stafford product,

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Speaker 1: Baylor local guy. He's being honored by the City of

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Speaker 1: Stafford during their Juneteenth celebration.

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Speaker 2: It's really cool stuff. He's very busy in the community.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about a Walter Payton Man of the Year

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Speaker 1: nominee of this team in twenty twenty four. Jail and

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Speaker 1: Petrie and studio jailing. Great to see. How's it going.

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Speaker 5: It's going well. Man back in football. So I'm extremely

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Speaker 5: excited and it's been fun so far.

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Speaker 1: It's been fun indeed to see you guys out there

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Speaker 1: doing it this time of year. Look, you've been in

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Speaker 1: meetings and practices and we have a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: about because you're being honored. We're going to get to

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Speaker 1: that in a moment. But tell us this meetings this

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Speaker 1: time of year. What are you guys covering this time

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Speaker 1: of year in these meetings?

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Speaker 5: The basics, the fundamentals, everything that you know, everybody sees

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Speaker 5: when the season's come when the season comes.

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Speaker 6: But it's pretty simple.

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Speaker 5: We're just learning the basics and making sure that we're

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Speaker 5: mastering the fundamentals so that when you know, Buddy gets

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Speaker 5: a flying, we're doing what we need to do.

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna ask you a question. I know it

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Speaker 4: probably hurts to talk about, how much did you make.

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Speaker 5: I missed it a lot, like I was still around,

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Speaker 5: but it's different when you you know, you in the

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Speaker 5: mixing you're playing. So, like I said, I'm really thankful

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Speaker 5: and grateful to you know, be back out there with the.

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Speaker 6: Guys just flying around and running around. It is nothing

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Speaker 1: How much do you put into these OTAs and the

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Speaker 1: mini camp practices where hey, you can't really hit people,

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Speaker 1: but you want to play or practice with some intensity.

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Speaker 2: How do you handle that? How do you gauge that

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Speaker 7: Jail?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's it's about taking every rep personal

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Speaker 5: and making sure that you're getting some out of every

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Speaker 5: rep because, like I said, these reps are gonna, you know,

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Speaker 5: the playoffs come, so it's important that you do take

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Speaker 5: them serious. But it's also a fine line there when

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Speaker 5: you're competing against people with you know, shirts and T

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Speaker 2: It just hit me. I was sitting there thin doing

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Speaker 4: It's going to your fourth year, yep, your season that

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Speaker 1: So Jalen, you are being honored by the City of

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be amazing.

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Speaker 1: You've done so much in the community and let's start here.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I know the injury was terrible, but off

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Speaker 6: It meant the world to me.

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Speaker 5: You know, you know, I take my job seriously on

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Speaker 6: So to be honored with a a what a prestigious.

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Speaker 6: For sure.

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Speaker 4: We know that you would be doing what you're doing

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Speaker 6: So you know, I see this the same way.

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Speaker 6: So that's all I want to do. And it's a

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Speaker 5: Shout out to them and yeah, we're going to keep

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Speaker 1: P Tree Boys Boys with a Z and it's ptree

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Speaker 1: boys dot com and I've got the website up right here.

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Speaker 1: It's very simple donate or request funds. You do so

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Speaker 2: You had adversity. They're Baylor.

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Speaker 2: How big is that lesson? I know you don't walk

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Speaker 5: open mindset in the locker room, you know, Linda helping hand.

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Speaker 5: Hey bro, you're going through this right now, but I

443
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Speaker 5: promise you when you come out of it, you're gonna

444
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Speaker 5: know how to do this ten times better, ten times faster,

445
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Speaker 5: and that's gonna help us as a team, help you

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Speaker 5: as a person in the long run. So I think

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Speaker 5: it's just about reminding each other because we've all been

448
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Speaker 5: through similar things.

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Speaker 1: A couple more quick ones from me, jailing receivers. You're

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of them, of course, so tell us

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Speaker 1: about them a little bit because we've got some new

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Speaker 1: faces and some guys who have been around.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like the dB. It's got some new faces,

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Speaker 2: some guys who have been around.

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Speaker 1: But obviously led by Nico, who's tremendous, got the rookies

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Speaker 1: out there, Kirk joins the team. A lot of different

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Speaker 1: looks out there you're getting from these receivers.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, a lot of different I would like to

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Speaker 5: say flavors, a lot of different styles, a lot of

460
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Speaker 5: different builds. But you know, it's a competitive group. They

461
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Speaker 5: show up every day rate to work and it's always

462
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Speaker 5: exciting to go against them. You can't show up, you know,

463
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Speaker 5: sleepy or like half awake, because they go embarrass you.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, nobody wants that out there, especially you know,

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Speaker 5: with the trash talking and stuff that we do in practice.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's a pretty lit group and a talented.

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Speaker 2: Group overall for sure. Okay, I got to ask you

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Speaker 2: about Monday Night.

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Speaker 4: I don't know that we've had a chance to talk

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Speaker 4: about this, being from Houston playing at Dallas on Monday

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Speaker 4: night and then you make that play. First of all,

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Speaker 4: you're disappointed that you didn't pick up the ball and

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Speaker 4: Derek did. Secondly, take us to that play, and what

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Speaker 4: did you see and how'd you make it happen?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just basically playing my technique and dB

476
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Speaker 5: made a great play strip sack and the lineman picked

477
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Speaker 5: up the ball and I'm like, oh, I gotta go

478
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Speaker 5: tackle him. And then when I tackled him, I was like, oh,

479
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Speaker 5: the ball close, so I tried to punch it out

480
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Speaker 5: and then you know, dB was right there again, so

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Speaker 5: God blessed.

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Speaker 6: Him again with the scoop and scorer.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, big shout outs to dB though, because that

484
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't have got my strip if he didn't get

485
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Speaker 5: his first trip, So big shout out of him, And yeah,

486
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Speaker 5: basically what happened. But it was definitely a big moment

487
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Speaker 5: because I don't think I've ever hit alignment like.

488
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Speaker 2: That ever in my life, like with the ball in.

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Speaker 4: His hand, hit people before like that, just maybe not

490
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Speaker 4: alignment with the ball in his hands. The fact that

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Speaker 4: it was Dallas and obviously you played for Houston, You're

492
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Speaker 4: from Houston, that matter that much more.

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Speaker 5: It definitely adds a little bit to it knowing that

494
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Speaker 5: you know, I'm from Houston and I got some you know,

495
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Speaker 5: Dallas friends and some people even in the Houston community

496
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Speaker 5: that love Dallas so much. But y'all know how we

497
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Speaker 5: rocking on this side, So yeah, it definitely made it

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Speaker 5: a little bit more special.

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Speaker 2: One more.

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Speaker 1: When people ask you, what's this offense gonna look like?

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Speaker 1: Nick Kelly, the new offensive coordinator, what can you tell

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Speaker 1: us about what the offense might look like?

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Speaker 5: I would say fast and explosive. You know, That's what

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Speaker 5: I've seen so far. They're being you know, on it

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Speaker 5: in terms of everything that they're doing, so you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm excited. You know, they have a lot of playmakers

507
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Speaker 5: like I mentioned, and a definitely a great quarterback, so

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Speaker 5: I'm excited about what the future hosts for them.

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Speaker 2: Very cool.

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Speaker 1: Jael, and congratulations on being honored by Effort for Juneteenth

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Speaker 1: on June fifteenth. Looking forward to that. Thanks a lot

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Speaker 1: for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate you man. So great to visit with.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Petrie and studio class of twenty twenty two and Johnny.

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Speaker 1: I love those guys Class of twenty one, Class of

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Speaker 1: twenty two. They live through the tough times here and

517
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Speaker 1: to see Petree get a deal, Nico Collins out of

518
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Speaker 1: class of twenty one get a deal, Davis Mills still

519
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Speaker 1: here out of class of twenty one, Brev Jordan getting

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Speaker 1: an extra year class twenty one. Love to see it,

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Speaker 1: of course, Derek Stingley junior class of twenty two getting

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Speaker 1: a big deal.

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Speaker 2: So very cool.

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Speaker 1: Nick Cassario draft picks part of something special to build

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Speaker 1: and Petrie getting honored. Nice stuff there, and he's making

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Speaker 1: plays at OTA's as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's kind of interesting watching today, just different

528
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Speaker 4: configurations all across the units, and not just talking about

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Speaker 4: the offensive line now the defensive line. They have some

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Speaker 4: guys that are trying to get themselves ready for the season,

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Speaker 4: so they've had only a handful combination because they don't

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Speaker 4: have their full compliment of guys. But linebackers too, you know,

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Speaker 4: Christian Harrison was a guy that Demika Rans was asked about,

534
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Speaker 4: talked about who'll be ready for training camp. That was

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Speaker 4: good news to hear, but you know, different linebacker combination,

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Speaker 4: different secondary combinations. One of the guys that stood out

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Speaker 4: to me today just it was one play, but it

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Speaker 4: really kind of spoke to something that I think the

539
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Speaker 4: Texans have been looking for for a while, and that's

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Speaker 4: that third cover guy. When you get into third down situations,

541
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Speaker 4: you're facing eleven or ten personnel and.

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Speaker 2: You've got to have a guy that could cover and slot.

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Speaker 4: Jalen Smith today it happened to be on my side

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Speaker 4: and so I could see him and I just have

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Speaker 4: my eyes on him, and I was like, hey, this

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Speaker 4: looks like it's gonna be man coverage. I was kind

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Speaker 4: of looking at what the front. I thought this might

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Speaker 4: be some pressure. So I was like, I'm gonna watch

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Speaker 4: Jalen Smith and Christian Kirk, and of all the guys

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Speaker 4: for Jalen Smith to go against, like Christian Kirk's the

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Speaker 4: perfect one because Kirk knows playing the inside, he knows

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Speaker 4: how to read all those routes.

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Speaker 2: Man, Jalen did a really.

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Speaker 4: Good job of sticking him, just sticking in a hip pocket.

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Speaker 2: He went on a dig route kind of twelve and

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Speaker 2: in and Kirk.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Jalen just stayed run on Christian's hip across

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Speaker 4: the middle.

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Speaker 2: I thought, man, this is pretty good.

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Speaker 4: Like that's really good for a rookie to go against

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Speaker 4: an experience vet like that. So there have been different combinations,

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Speaker 4: and so in that combination Petrie was playing it almost

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Speaker 4: felt like Petrie was playing the nickel on his side

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Speaker 4: and Jalen Smith was playing the nickel on his side.

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Speaker 2: That's almost what it felt like. And so they weren't

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Speaker 2: there together.

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Speaker 4: So they were playing five eb's, they were playing nickel,

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Speaker 4: but they had Jalen and Jalen, Jalen and Jalen and

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Speaker 4: Jalen Smith and Jalen Petrie both in there together, and

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Speaker 4: then they had Kamarian staying outside, and then they had

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Speaker 4: Kaylen in the back end.

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Speaker 2: It's just a different combination. Yea.

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Speaker 4: Then they've they've had. Now they don't have the full

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Speaker 4: group back there, you know, CJ. Gardner Johnson hasn't been there.

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Speaker 4: Still waiting on some of the guys to get back,

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Speaker 4: you know, Jimmy to get back healthy, all that. But

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Speaker 4: it just was interesting to me to see Jalen Smith

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Speaker 4: step up, like, all right, I got these reps. You know,

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Speaker 4: Ronald Darby retired yesterday, and somebody's got to step up

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Speaker 4: and take the reps they were thinking about and I

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Speaker 4: it's it's it's so I say easy, But you can

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Speaker 4: think back to twenty twenty four and there are moments

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Speaker 4: when you go, I, the Jalen Smith pick makes sense

584
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Speaker 4: because you think about Cavante.

585
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Speaker 2: Turpin against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he just took Akuda to school, and it's like

587
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Speaker 4: Jalen Smith can go in there and play better inside

588
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Speaker 4: and man to man better than than a Kudu is

589
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Speaker 4: gonna play. Kuda doesn't have anything left. But that's beside

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Speaker 4: the point. They needed a third cover guy. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: by having a third cover guy, if it was a

592
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Speaker 4: third guy that could play outside and Kamari could bump inside, fine,

593
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Speaker 4: whatever you gotta do. You just want to have three

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Speaker 4: guys that can cover. And you know you got two.

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Speaker 4: You know you got two studs, So can you have

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Speaker 4: a third guy develop? And maybe Jalen Smith turns into

597
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Speaker 4: that guy. That would be kind of nice, and that

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Speaker 4: keeps Petrie free to be the guy that covers, tight ends,

599
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Speaker 4: covers some running backs down the backfield and blitzes and

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Speaker 4: mayhem the way that he does in that way.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 4: But it was kind of interesting to see those combinations

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Speaker 4: back there today.

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Speaker 1: Well, cover guys corners might be a sub theme for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the program. We'll ask Jonathan Alexander from

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Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle about that, among many other things, and

607
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Speaker 1: talk about another list baby corner rankings in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to it next here on Texans Radio. Back

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Speaker 1: in the HUNTAI Texans Radio studio, Mark Vandermere and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you and usually on Tuesday, and this Tuesday

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Speaker 1: is no different. We are joined by Jonathan Alexander from

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Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, how's it going today?

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Speaker 7: It's going well. It's been an eventful two days.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it has, it has and here we are after

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Speaker 1: another Texans practice session OTAs Organized Team Activities mini camp

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Speaker 1: next week. What's your thought on the latest session that

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Speaker 1: you saw regarding the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's interesting.

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Speaker 8: You know, Cid strou wasn't thrown again, and Demiko Ryans

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Speaker 8: of course said that it was general soreness in his shoulder,

622
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Speaker 8: but he wasn't concerned, which is a good sign. You know,

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Speaker 8: anytime your frenchise quarterback has an injury, injury, injury, there's

624
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Speaker 8: a little bit of a concern, but Demico Ryans and

625
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Speaker 8: Nick Kaylee didn't seem to be overly concerned with him.

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Speaker 7: Sounds like he could be ready by training camp.

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Speaker 8: But other than that, you saw a lot of positives

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Speaker 8: and offseason workouts. Even though trying not to put too

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Speaker 8: much stock, but Will Anderson is out there dominating so

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Speaker 8: a lot of a lot of good things out there.

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Speaker 2: No doubt.

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Speaker 4: What do you think about some of the young guys,

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Speaker 4: Jadon Higgins, Jalen Nole. We didn't get a chance to

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Speaker 4: see Jaalen Nole on Tuesday, but just thought about some

635
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Speaker 4: of the young guys. You know, it's tough with the

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Speaker 4: offensive lineman, defensive line, et cetera. Johnathan, But what do

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Speaker 4: you thought about some of the rookies that have come

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Speaker 4: in and done some things.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think, I really think Jayden Higgins and I

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Speaker 8: will I don't know that I was really expecting this,

641
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Speaker 8: but he has an act for the explosive play. I

642
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Speaker 8: knew Jalen Nole, you know that was what he was

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Speaker 8: known for. But you've seen Jaden Higgins catch too deep

644
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Speaker 8: touchdown passes from Davis Mills, one today and one last week.

645
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Speaker 8: He just has a knack for getting behind the second

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Speaker 8: area making place. He has that rare speed for a

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Speaker 8: tall guy. He reminds you of Nico Collins. I'm not

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Speaker 8: saying that he's at Nico Collins' level, but you know,

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Speaker 8: one of the strengths of Nicocollins is that even though

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Speaker 8: he's a big receiver, he can move and turn his

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Speaker 8: body really well.

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Speaker 7: And I see that in Jaden Higgins.

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Speaker 8: A lot of bigger receivers tend to be slow, don't

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Speaker 8: move out of their breaks very quick.

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Speaker 7: But Jaden Higgins and Nico Collins are two that can

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Speaker 7: do that.

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Speaker 1: Without Joe Mixon and Damian Pierce out there, that moves

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Speaker 1: everybody up on the depth chart. We've seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of Daar Race and a lot of JJ Taylor, some

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Speaker 1: Juar Jordan. What do you think of the running backs?

661
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Speaker 1: And of course I'll add rookie Woody Marks on the list.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think they're all kind of grouped together, even

663
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Speaker 8: British Brooks back from that injury. They're all kind of

664
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Speaker 8: on a similar playing field. I don't see one standing

665
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Speaker 8: out above the other. But I think what will help

666
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Speaker 8: some guys is their ability to play special teams and.

667
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Speaker 7: To catch the ball out of the backfield.

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Speaker 8: That is why the Texans jackted with he Marks, because

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Speaker 8: they needed a running back who could catch it.

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Speaker 7: Out of the backfield and be a third down back.

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Speaker 8: Obviously, Joe Mason can do all three of those things,

672
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Speaker 8: but Damian Pierce hasn't. It hasn't really been a position,

673
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Speaker 8: hasn't really caught the ball out of the backfield much,

674
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Speaker 8: so I think that's where why you haven't seen him

675
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Speaker 8: run as much. They wanted to find somebody who did

676
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Speaker 8: things a little bit differently, somebody to compliment Joe Mixon,

677
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Speaker 8: and I think William Marks offers that. And I think

678
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Speaker 8: it'll be an interesting competition because you know one or

679
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 8: two of these guys will have to be cut in

680
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Speaker 8: train again.

681
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

682
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Speaker 4: And everybody's got to be waived if they want to

683
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Speaker 4: come back on practice squad. So it always gets kind

684
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Speaker 4: of tricky. Even though not a lot of guys get

685
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: picked up. We always talk about that. A lot of

686
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Speaker 4: guys get picked up a waivers or claimed on waivers,

687
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 4: but it does happen, and you worry about that a

688
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: little bit, Jonathan. On Monday it was announced that Ronald

689
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 4: Darby announced his retirement eleven years in the league.

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Speaker 2: Kind of I don't want to say. You see, Demko

691
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: talked about it.

692
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Speaker 4: I thought he made some great comments on Tuesday talking

693
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Speaker 4: about it's a tough day when a veteran gets to

694
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Speaker 4: that point of hanging it up and it's done.

695
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Speaker 2: But it is done. Ronald Darby is not going to

696
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Speaker 2: be a Texan. How problematic is that?

697
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Speaker 4: And what do you think the Texans do going forward

698
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Speaker 4: to kind of replace what they thought Ronald Darby might

699
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Speaker 4: have been. Is Jalen Smith enough He got a lot

700
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Speaker 4: of reps with the ones on Tuesday? Is he enough

701
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Speaker 4: where you think they'll go sign a veteran of and

702
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Speaker 4: there are a number of them out there. Do you

703
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Speaker 4: think we go sign a veteran to go along with

704
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Speaker 4: what they've got already?

705
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you make a good point. There are a number

706
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Speaker 7: of veterans out there. You know.

707
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Speaker 8: I think it's a little bit problematic in the sense

708
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Speaker 8: that the Texans felt last year that they needed at

709
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Speaker 8: number three cornerback and it's my understanding that they tried

710
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Speaker 8: to trade for one at the NFL trade deadline last year.

711
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Speaker 7: But we'recessful.

712
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Speaker 8: And this year they thought they found that in Ronald Darby,

713
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Speaker 8: And you know, to me that in the case that

714
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Speaker 8: they'll likely try and look out there in free agency

715
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Speaker 8: and try to try out a few guys to see

716
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Speaker 8: if they fit this system. Now, I think Jalen Smith

717
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Speaker 8: does offer you, you know, a potential at number three,

718
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Speaker 8: but he's a third round pick.

719
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Speaker 7: He's a rookie.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's gonna make some mistakes, and I could

721
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Speaker 8: see them bringing in a guy for competition and the

722
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Speaker 8: just in case type of situation. So I do think

723
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Speaker 8: it's problematic, but I do I don't think it's something

724
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Speaker 8: that they have to worry about strongly because the cornerback

725
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Speaker 8: three will only play if Kamara Laster and Derek Stingly,

726
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Speaker 8: you know, suffer injury.

727
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Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at a list of cornerbacks that are

728
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Speaker 1: out there, and there are a number of Texans that

729
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Speaker 1: are still available that we've seen, like Shaq Griffin is

730
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Speaker 1: out there, And stop me if you've seen one of

731
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Speaker 1: these guys sign in the last day or so. But

732
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Speaker 1: this looks to be pretty up today. Kadar Holman's out there,

733
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Speaker 1: Fabian Moreau who is here? To Tavier Thomas who's out there?

734
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Speaker 2: CJ. Henderson.

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Speaker 1: I mean we got a lot of guys. Mike Helton

736
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Speaker 1: is out there, boy like Mike like five to seven

737
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Speaker 1: years ago. Sante Samuel Junior, I mean there are a

738
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Speaker 1: number of them out there.

739
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Speaker 2: Wait, Santa Samuel Jr. Does that sound right? He's on

740
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Speaker 2: this list? I could be Jonathan.

741
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about this for a moment, the tight end position,

742
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: because Revin Jordan's still on the mend. We saw Dalton

743
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Speaker 1: Schultz out there today, seeing a lot of Luke Leche

744
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Speaker 1: so far rookie from Iowa, what do you think ultimately

745
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Speaker 1: happens at tight end? And I'm gonna throw Yakub in

746
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Speaker 1: there because it looks like he can do some things

747
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,479
Speaker 1: as a full back, but he's also sort of an

748
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Speaker 1: honorary member of that tight end group h back however

749
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Speaker 1: you want to describe.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's gonna come in handy in this offense.

751
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and even IRV Smith made some plays today from

752
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Speaker 8: from what I saw. But I but I like what

753
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Speaker 8: I've seen from k Stover. Dalton Schultz came out there

754
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Speaker 8: today for the first time as he nurses what appears

755
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Speaker 8: to be a leg injury. But that was a really

756
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Speaker 8: good sign, made a nice catch. You know, I think

757
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Speaker 8: it may be a little bit difficult for Brevan Jordan

758
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Speaker 8: to make the team considering, uh, you know what the

759
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Speaker 8: Texans have added, but you know, they know what he

760
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Speaker 8: brings when.

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Speaker 7: He is healthy.

762
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Speaker 8: It'll just be a matter of health for him. But

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Speaker 8: you know, obviously I see Dalton Show's case Stover making

764
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Speaker 8: the team. I think for that number three spot, it'll

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Speaker 8: be between uh Smith, Brevian and Luke.

766
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Speaker 7: It'll come down to training camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, training camp is gonna be there's almost gonna be

768
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Speaker 4: too many things to watch with.

769
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we'll see it in training camp.

770
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Speaker 4: There were saying that a lot because we know the

771
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Speaker 4: offensive line and we know everything that goes with the

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Speaker 4: offensive line is going to be there.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, I said, the first week go tas.

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Speaker 4: I said, anybody that does an interview writes an article

775
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Speaker 4: which includes the three of us and says, oh, I

776
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Speaker 4: think the offensive line is absolutely going to be this

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Speaker 4: ride it in Stone and Penn. I think is fooling themselves.

778
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Speaker 4: I think this thing goes for a while trying to

779
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Speaker 4: figure out what the five is going to be. Along

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Speaker 4: those lines, I asked this a mark before you came

781
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Speaker 4: on Jonathan during a break, and I said, when do

782
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Speaker 4: you think they'll hone in on the five that they

783
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Speaker 4: think they're going to have. Do you think it'll go

784
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Speaker 4: all the way to training camp, it'll go through the

785
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Speaker 4: preseason game? You think it'll be before training camp? What

786
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Speaker 4: do you think they'll kind of hone in on the

787
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Speaker 4: five that they think will start the season.

788
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Speaker 8: Probably think it'll be through that first, for that first

789
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Speaker 8: preseason practice. I think a lot will be determined then,

790
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Speaker 8: and through these joint practices. I think that's when they'll

791
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Speaker 8: have a good general sense because when I look at

792
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Speaker 8: Lda's which you can't really tell much, you know, who

793
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Speaker 8: I think could be the start of five changes every

794
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Speaker 8: week every week. So I don't think you can make

795
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Speaker 8: a determination from what we've seen so far, like you said,

796
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Speaker 8: but yeah, I think we won't know who the start

797
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Speaker 8: and five will be until we really get into the

798
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Speaker 8: games and see what these guys are made of.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Alexander joining us from the Houston Chronicle. Jonathan, last

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Speaker 1: year three wild cards out of the AFC. You're looking

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Speaker 1: at the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Denver Broncos, and the LA Chargers.

802
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Speaker 2: Will that be different this year?

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Speaker 1: And if it will, who's getting in and who's out

804
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Speaker 1: of these wild card spots? And maybe have somebody else

805
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Speaker 1: winning the AFC West.

806
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you have the Steelers really bottoming out or doing better.

808
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Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you think?

809
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I have the Steelers bottoming out.

810
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Speaker 8: Oh and I see the Bengals kind of taking over

811
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 8: if they can remain healthy at their most important positions.

812
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Speaker 8: I think they were kind of catching up to the Steelers,

813
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 8: who were starting to struggle late in the year, and

814
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Speaker 8: you know, they obviously don't have their quarterback situation figured out.

815
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Speaker 8: Even if they signed Aaron Rodgers, I don't think he

816
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 8: can particularly elevate them to the level where they would.

817
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Speaker 7: Just become a playoff team.

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Speaker 8: I think the Bengals have a lot more promise there,

819
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 8: and I see a lot of the same teams who

820
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Speaker 8: were in the playoffs last year making it again this year.

821
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Speaker 4: Okay, every year a team from the bottom five, bottom

822
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Speaker 4: seven of the NFL Jonathan makes a leap, makes a leap.

823
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 4: Titans picked one, Jaguars picked two, the Browns picked five.

824
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 4: I'm trying to remember who was at three and four.

825
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Speaker 4: Off top my head, the Panthers were at eight. Those

826
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Speaker 4: are the Bears were ten of the teams that drafted

827
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Speaker 4: in the top ten, arguably the ten worst teams for

828
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four. Which team would you feel like makes

829
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: the biggest leap in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 8: I think the Bears are probably gonna have the biggest leap.

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Speaker 8: I think they're gonna give that NFC North a run

832
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Speaker 8: for their money. I think they're gonna be really competitive.

833
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 8: I don't know that they're gonna win, but I think

834
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Speaker 8: they'll find a way into the playoffs. And I think

835
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Speaker 8: the Panthers are gonna make a leap. You know, you

836
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 8: saw progress from Bryce Young. He seems to have solidified himself.

837
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Speaker 8: You know, they added weapons and wide receiver and on

838
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Speaker 8: defensive end. I think they could win a few more games.

839
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Speaker 8: But I really do like the Bears and what they

840
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Speaker 8: were able to do in the draft. And obviously they

841
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 8: got Ben Johnson as a coach who I think will

842
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 8: help elevate Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: So that's my pick, all right, my pick, if you're interested,

844
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Speaker 1: John I am. My pick is the Raiders. I know

845
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: they played a brutal division where all other three teams

846
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: made the playoffs, but they've got gent who could be

847
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: interesting as a rookie very much. So you're bring in

848
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Speaker 1: Geno to play quarterback, good move. If Pete Carroll is

849
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Speaker 1: your head coach. This is a different Raider team, and

850
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: it's a Raider team that had some talent on it.

851
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 2: Last year. They just didn't play well right, which is

852
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 2: putting it mildly, but.

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Speaker 1: They Crosby got hurt at the end of the year,

854
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: they upset the Ravens in Baltimore. I'd love to do that, right,

855
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: they did that, They were capable of that with Gardner Minshew.

856
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: Now they got Geno and Pete Carroll run of the show.

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Speaker 1: I like the Raiders to take a big jump forward.

858
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: And by a big jump, I mean maybe nine, which

859
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: would be tremendous. Actually that yeah, and that's absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking for which team do you think pro

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 2: It was funny.

863
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 4: At lunch today, I watched the Carolina Panthers Blueprint I

864
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 4: think they call it, which was talking about their their

865
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Speaker 4: draft and how they went about things. It was pretty interesting,

866
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: and then had a pretty good They had a really

867
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Speaker 4: good draft, and I feel like if Bryce is ready.

868
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Speaker 2: To turn that corner, it really truly turned that corner.

869
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Speaker 4: Like man, they could be really interesting in Carolina, like

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Speaker 4: really interesting in Carolina.

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00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 7: Okay, they dealt with a lot of injuries last year

872
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Speaker 7: to the key players.

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00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: All right, Jonathan, what do you have going on in

874
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: the Houston Chronicle for us?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so just wrote about Straus. Y'all can check that out.

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00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 7: So on Wednesday, we'll have the mail Bag.

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Speaker 8: This month's mail Bag where a lot of you know,

878
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Speaker 8: fans ask questions and I'm looking forward to putting that together.

879
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: All right, sounds good, Jonathan, thanks so much for joining us,

880
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. There's our visit with Jonathan Alexander

881
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: of the Chronicle and don't forget also a great story

882
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: out there kayln Block and Kamari Lassiter best of buds

883
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: and Jonathan does a great story on them. And coming

884
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: up cornerbacks. Where does Derek Stingley Junior rank in the NFL?

885
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: Where's Lassitter? How high will he go? We'll discuss that,

886
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: among other things next here on Texans All Access.

887
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: Our final march through the fields.

888
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Here, boy, that metaphor is really getting more complicated every day.

889
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: Here on Texans All Access tonight, final segment. In other words,

890
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: Mark Vanderman and John Harris with you been kind of

891
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: jelly because Sean Pendergass has been posting picks from Boston

892
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: and stuff. Oh yeah, Way Park, everything looks really nice. Yeah,

893
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take a trip up there myself.

894
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: Okay Weather, Yeah, yeah, he'll be back in the morning show,

895
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: back in well by the year twenty twenty six. I

896
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: think he'll be back from vacation. No, I think he'll

897
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: be back next week, right, or yeah, I think he's

898
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: back this week. I think he's back this week. Good, Yeah,

899
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: I think he's back this weeod. Not that I don't

900
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: like hearing Sean and Brandon, because I really do. I

901
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: like the different perspectives everything, But you know those guys,

902
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: those guys have to be together, Sean and Seth.

903
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 2: All right, so you tell me cornerback rankings in the NFL.

904
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: Who did this?

905
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 1: My friends at PFF, you're beautiful good friends at PFF.

906
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 4: And if anybody knows anything about me, you know, I

907
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: use the word friends. I was at Air Quotes Loose,

908
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, this popped up on my timeline.

909
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: I was huh.

910
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 4: So they had a picture and a graphic should say,

911
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 4: and it said top ten corners in the league. And

912
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 4: I look over and I see the picture of sauce

913
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 4: Gardner and I was like, no freaking way the picture.

914
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: But does that mean he's in the top ten? Does

915
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: that mean he's number one?

916
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: PFF ranks sauce Gardner number one corner in the league.

917
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: Number one corner in the league is sauce Gardener? Why

918
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: do they do this? Here's the last so they so.

919
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 4: Gardner's ninety one point nine PFF coverage grades is twenty

920
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 4: twenty two, leads the league. He has forced the league

921
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 4: guy forty six and completions a lot of league lower

922
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: points six yards per cover snap uh and twenty one

923
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 4: point four percent first down plus touchdown rate over that span. Unsurprisingly,

924
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: Gardner's PFF Advanced coverage grade ranks first as well. Whatever

925
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: last sentence, While he might not shadow opposing wide receivers

926
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: at a high rate, he has excelled when asked to

927
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 4: do so.

928
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: What do you mean shadow opposing wide receivers? Basically job description?

929
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: Right?

930
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: He doesn't shadow opposing receivers at a high rate, meaning what,

931
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: he just stands in the middle of the field, And

932
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 4: how is he excelled when asked to do so? This

933
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 4: doesn't even make sense. It does shadow have a certain

934
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 4: meaning that we don't know about. Well, it just meanslanguage

935
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: like which corner, which corners are good enough to travel with?

936
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: Great wide receiver? All I see with the best ones

937
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: on the opponent. That was worded bad right, by the way.

938
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 4: But the point being, he's not asked, oh, hey, we're

939
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 4: frasing Tyreek Hill, go cover Tyreek Hill yet yet Derek

940
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 4: Stingley's asked to do it, and not only does he stop.

941
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: And he comes up with two interceptions. I'm not saying

942
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: he's bad.

943
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: You know it dropped off last year though, Yeah, that

944
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: entire defense, exact team, because exactly all talk about this.

945
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: Somehow with Zach Wilson they won more games than with

946
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers.

947
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 4: Right, Sauce Gardner was not great at twenty twenty four.

948
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 4: They're hiding behind this well since twenty twenty two. Nonsense, Okay,

949
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 4: there are two cities that are going to be pissed

950
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: about this.

951
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: Where's our guy?

952
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 4: So Number two, Pat Sertan the second game, He's voted

953
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 4: defensive Player of the year.

954
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: I get it, and I think Pat was really good.

955
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: He's the only corner that I will say.

956
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 4: That is to me, even in the ballpark with sting Okay,

957
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 4: number three, you think sting right, Yeah, sure, it's time.

958
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 4: Trent McDuffie, Kansas City chiefs Okay, Now, I don't want

959
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 4: to take away from McDuffie.

960
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: He's good.

961
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 4: I think McDuffie is excellent. I think McDuffie is right there.

962
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 4: Uh to me, there's remember when it was Larry Fitzgerald

963
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: Calvin Johnson and Andre in the league. It was like that,

964
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: to me, is the three? I think it's certain McDuffie

965
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 4: and stinct. I don't even think Sauce is.

966
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: In that picture. Okay, So you shouldn't get hung up

967
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: in the order necessarily.

968
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, I I am, because they're putting

969
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: they're putting Sauce Carter number one.

970
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: Well that, but I'm talking about two, three, And don't

971
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: tell me it's lower than four.

972
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 2: Number four. Here we go, Jalen ra Jalen Johnson, Chicago Bears.

973
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: How'd they do last year? Yeah? How did they do

974
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: last year? How did they do thattlast year?

975
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a GM in the league that

976
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: would take Jalen Johnson ahead of Derek Stingley Junior. You

977
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: got to think of it in those terms, Okay, And

978
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: here's the final that should be one of their components.

979
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: And I know they use a lot of these analytics,

980
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: but the analytics of what GM would draft so and

981
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: so ahead of so and so? Is there any what's

982
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: the percentage of GMS in the league that would do that?

983
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: That's exactly right, That's exactly how he looked to play

984
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 4: a little bit which GMS And by the way, Derek

985
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: Stingley is at number five, But let me read what

986
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: they say and then I'm gonna go back to your thought.

987
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: After a poor rookie season, it's hurt.

988
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: Stingleys generated a ninety point three PFF coverage grade over

989
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: the last over the past two seasons, the best mark

990
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: amongst all cornerbacks. The twenty twenty two number three overall pick.

991
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: Plays a high risk, high reward brand of football. Why

992
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: because he he plays a high risk, high reward brand

993
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: of football. But does he give up what the hell?

994
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean?

995
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 1: Every so off base is gonna give up some stuff.

996
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: But it's not like Stingley takes all these chances and

997
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: gets burned.

998
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: That's right exactly.

999
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 4: He got beat by Kayshawan Boody last year against the Patriots, Right.

1000
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a three touchdown lead already. Yeah, and

1001
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: right to game situations into into account as well.

1002
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, if you're a GM in this league and you're

1003
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: like pick a defense, pick a corner, our guys getting

1004
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: picked for the time. First Sertan is gonna be the

1005
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 4: next guy, yeah, and then mcduffe you're.

1006
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: Gonna have sauce.

1007
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: You can have Jalen Johnson, GM's are gonna well if

1008
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 4: if I if those three guys are gone, then okay,

1009
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 4: I'll take those other two.

1010
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: Derek Stingley number five five, the booty five, the booty ball.

1011
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: What a term. That was a good one. But you

1012
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: have a lead.

1013
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: If you're Derek that day, you know you can basically

1014
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: do what you want here in this game, and maybe

1015
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: you take a chance. Maybe did get burned. I don't know,

1016
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: but maybe he'd take a chance that you wouldn't take

1017
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: if it was a tight game against a really good team. Yeah, right,

1018
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: and maybe he shouldn't do this, but I think you

1019
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: have to take game situation into concept.

1020
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: This is right.

1021
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: This whole high risk, high reward like this is so

1022
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 4: completely off base as it pertains this thing that I

1023
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 4: can't even Anyways, that's the graphic. That show was the

1024
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 4: top ten. Wow, But they did an article in the

1025
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 4: top thirty two and.

1026
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: Kamari made it. Kamari comes in at number thirty one.

1027
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: All right, There were several great There were several great

1028
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 4: rookie seasons in twenty twenty four, and Lasters was arguably

1029
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: right behind those of Cooper, Dejen and Quinnon. Mitchell Man

1030
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: I swear to God the Cooper Dejen love, and I

1031
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: like Cooper Degen. He didn't have the year Kamara Lasser did.

1032
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: He just had a couple of really good games and

1033
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 4: a couple of viral highlights.

1034
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 2: Exactly. You know who he is, Sauce Gardener. He's Sauce Gardner.

1035
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 2: That's right. He plays in a big market for a

1036
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: championship team, a lot of love, and he's one of

1037
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: the exciting whites as they are called. Yeah, I mean

1038
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 2: Ian Reid blankets. Why did they get in trouble for that?

1039
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1040
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: They didn't want anybody to call white chocolate white chocolate?

1041
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah? Jason? Uh why my Jason Williams. Jason Williams.

1042
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,839
Speaker 2: What of the many? The few?

1043
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: Anyway?

1044
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: Last y rank third among rookies in PFF Advanced Coverage

1045
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: Grade and fifteenth among all cornerbacks. He led the also

1046
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 4: the NFL with a forty five point two percent completion

1047
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 4: rate aloud thirty one.

1048
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: Wait, they just said he was fifteen. He was all

1049
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: he was in.

1050
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 4: He was fifteenth in Advanced coverage grade okay, and led

1051
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: the NFL with a forty five point two percent completion

1052
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: rate allout.

1053
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: A pff Man.

1054
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: So all over the great grade in the advanced class,

1055
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: doesn't that mean you should be doing really well in

1056
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: the other class?

1057
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that what Chylie regard. I don't know. I

1058
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: don't get that.

1059
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: It's just hard to have sting at five and last

1060
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: year with those numbers at thirty one. I'm glad Kamari

1061
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 4: got some some run, but there are in no way

1062
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 4: gams this league are like, yeah, I'll take Jalen Johnson

1063
00:46:58,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: over Derek Stingley.

1064
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to win the top fifteen next year.

1065
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1066
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for the show tonight. Tomorrow we

1067
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: will get into it more about what is going on

1068
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: around the NFL. More on OTA's all of it coming

1069
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: up tomorrow night at six. Area forty five is next.

1070
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: Have a great night, Go Texans.