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Don't wait, don't hesitate. 30 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Let's Square handle the back end so you can keep 31 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: pushing your vision forward. 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: How do podcasts make money? Like you guys have a 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: successful podcast? How did they always wanted that? I never 34 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: really knew how? 35 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 3: Oh you know. 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 4: Kind of podcast newcomings? This is? 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: This is so, you know, we gotta. 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: Let the people now. 39 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 3: So, I mean, we make money a few different ways. 40 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: We make money obviously from ad revenue. We make money 41 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: from streams on YouTube. We also have a Patreon. We 42 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: make money with Patreon. We used to sell merch, but 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: we don't really sell merch as much anymore. But they 44 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: used to be a stream of income that we had 45 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to think of my live shows. 46 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: Live shows, but we haven't toured in like two years. 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like hosting events, like do you have products? I 48 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: have a cosmetics business, but we don't have anything with 49 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: Poor Mindes together currently. 50 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 4: But we used to sell hoodies and rap tea. 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: We have like the little wine stoppers and stuff like that, 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 3: Like we really like ramp up, like the merch stuff 53 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 3: whenever we're touring and things like that. But like she said, 54 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: those like our main sources of income. And we did 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: an e book as well, ye cause I mean we 56 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 3: get so many questions of like, oh, how do I 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 3: star the podcasts? What do I need? But it wasn't 58 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: just like the typical even like okay, get a camera. 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: It was like I was legit giving actual websites that 60 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: we used. I want to make some ad revenue. You 61 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: can sign your podcast up with this audio this source. 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: So I did the course too, so you can actually 63 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: get the bundle. Like if you're somebody who's more of 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 3: a visual learner, you can watch the course, or if 65 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: you know somebody that need to look at a book, 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: we have the Yeah, and then we stepped, like I said, 67 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: we stepped into the hosting space. We did, you know, 68 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: we did the Festivalence Festival, we did so, yeah, BT Awards, 69 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: ET Awards. Yeah, we did the Media House last year. 70 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: So I think, like I said, when you're getting into podcasting, 71 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: the actual show you can make a lot of revenue from. 72 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: But the outside things that you do outside of just 73 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: sitting on the couch and being in front of the 74 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: mic is like so. 75 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: It's using your influence to get money from absolutely. 76 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: I mean even now we get money from faith book, Tiktie. 77 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: It's like a lot of stuff. 78 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: That's what I was forgetting social media plays. 79 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: There's a ticket going on on the streams, y'all just 80 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: name it's about We're about eleven. Yeah, it's moltiple. Streams 81 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: is important in the ad space, I know, like when 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: people are starting the podcast, that's very important, right. It's 83 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: probably one of the first sources of income you're going 84 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: to have based on your topic. Do you guys ever 85 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: feel limited, right, because there's only sometimes there's only a 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: certain level or a certain category of ad client that's 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: looking to put things on your show, right, Whereas if 88 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: you have more of a broad based topic, it leaves 89 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: it open for a lot more categories. Have you guys 90 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: ever felt that way when it comes to the ad spends. 91 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: You know what? No, not really to be honest, like, 92 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of different companies want to 93 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: work with us, Like we never really had that issue, 94 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: but we do know some people in the podcast in 95 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 3: space that have told us that they've had that issue 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 3: because they may have like a six base podcast. 97 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 4: But we've never really had that. 98 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: I mean sometimes we get as I'm like, they want. 99 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 4: To work with up, you don't be the mouse and 100 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 4: random so. 101 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, like manscaping like all that stuff, like it'll be 102 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: like but it works, Like if they renew the contract, 103 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, y'all must be clicking blue Choo and 104 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: I'm like, do men really watch the show? Women are 105 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: buying it for their men? 106 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think y'all will be limited because you're not, 107 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 2: like you said, you're not a sex based podcast. 108 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: Like we have a segment, but it's not the whole 109 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: entire show, you know. I think people think that sometimes 110 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: just because of the clips that are cut from the 111 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 3: show be like the six topic. So then before people 112 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 3: actually come and watch the show, I think they assume 113 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 3: that it's a six man. 114 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, or it's a female based show men not be 115 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: big watching, but that could actually be the opposite, right, 116 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: And I. 117 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: Think it's really crazy with these ad companies as well, because, 118 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: like you said, you just never know what we're gonna 119 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 3: get or what people want to work with us, because honestly, 120 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: being that we're so heavily with the women crowd, we 121 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 3: don't get a lot of beauty as like a lot 122 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: like makeup stuff like hair stuff. We really don't get 123 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff like that. We have one fashion 124 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: company where like you could you know, have like a 125 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: subscription service to get closed like one time, but most 126 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 3: of the stuff is really. 127 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: Like food, food stuff, mental health. 128 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 3: Mental health stuff, stuff like that, you know what I mean. 129 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: So, how have you guys been able to build your 130 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: community because you got like a loyal fan base, supporters, 131 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: you have a name for them, right, poor crew, poor 132 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: oh you are So how a lot of people create content, 133 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: but then everybody doesn't have like a community. So like, 134 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,679 Speaker 2: what's some of the ways that you've actually been able 135 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: to cultivate and keep that community together. 136 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 3: I feel like one of the major ways, and we 137 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: always say these one of the major ways that we've 138 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: been able to build such a large community. Is that 139 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: for the first few years that we started doing Poor Minds, 140 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: we never had guests on the show because we always 141 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: wanted to make sure we were building a fan base 142 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: of people who wanted to see us every week. I 143 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 3: feel like a lot of the time, when people start 144 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: off having huge guests on their show weekly, when you 145 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: don't the week that you don't have a guess, the 146 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: viewership falls off. So we wanted to make sure we 147 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: were cultivating a space in a community of people that 148 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 3: no matter who we had on the show, they're still 149 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: gonna watch. 150 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: So I feel like that was a major key. 151 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: And another major one is we talk to our listeners 152 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: like everybody acts like they too good to take twenty 153 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: thirty minutes and just respond to comment, you know, talk 154 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: back to people like I still do that. I engage 155 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: with my listeners because I just started a new channel 156 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: YouTube channel called love lex P, so I do like 157 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: hot topics on there, and I'm like, y'all hashtag love 158 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: lex P so we can talk about it together, you 159 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I think the engagement of feeling like, 160 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: you know what lex Andrea cool. I can talk to 161 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: them if I tweet four minds they gonna tweet me back. 162 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 3: So I think it's like not feeling like you are 163 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: a celebrity, you know what I'm saying, and really engaging 164 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: with your audience helps a lot. 165 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 4: We do that with. 166 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: Travele Queens too. We live tweet every week. Yeah, Twitter, 167 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: and when Trouble Queens is on. 168 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was wondering right that that community that you built, 169 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: it obviously helps when Travel Queens is about the debut 170 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: and people are supporting it. But when you guys at 171 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: the debut for it, there was just like an overwhelming 172 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: set and some emotion that I watched for y'all, I 173 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: was like, this is interesting, talk about what that felt 174 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: like in that moment to watch yourself on a big 175 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: screen in your fancy and family there with you. 176 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: That was the first time we watched the episode, and 177 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 3: I think like in that moment, it really just kind 178 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: of like hit me and I'm like, looking at her, 179 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, we really did that, because even while we 180 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 3: were filming, it was like we were working and it did. 181 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: I think in that moment it hit us because honestly, 182 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 3: getting the party to the premiere party together, getting ready 183 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 3: for everything, finding outfits and just hair and makeup all 184 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: this stuff. We didn't really get to sit. So in 185 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: that moment, I was like, Oh my gosh, like we 186 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: really have a TV show. 187 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: You was bo yeah together. 188 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 4: I was trying. 189 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: But honestly, I feel like it hit me at that 190 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 3: moment as well, because when we were filming the show, 191 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: I definitely felt like, oh my god, We're about to 192 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: have a TV show. 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