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Speaker 1: a week, fella, So if you're a little musty, stay
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Speaker 1: It's gonna get toasty out here. The Goot's gonna get
Speaker 1: toasty out here this week. So just make sure that
Speaker 1: you are fresh and ready to go. Kurt, glad to
Speaker 1: have you back, Bright to be back. Good to see
Speaker 1: you guys. Yea, Nate, Yeah, I'm rocking, man, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Our fearless leader is running a couple of minutes behind,
Speaker 1: but that's okay because I'm always ready and willing to
Speaker 1: get these reps in and uh, all right, kind of
Speaker 1: a sad way to start our show today, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep it together. I think I've cried enough. But
Speaker 1: last week, UM, we lost a great member of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys team and a really good friend of mine.
Speaker 1: U Mariam Barbara passed away on Wednesday of last of
Speaker 1: last week. UM. Still unknown cause of death, but that's
Speaker 1: that's beside the point. UM. Marion has been a fan
Speaker 1: favorite of Cowboy fans since the time that he entered
Speaker 1: the league. And when you get high praise from a
Speaker 1: coach like Bill Belichick who says he was almost a
Speaker 1: perfect player, Parcel, I'm sorry, that's sorry, parcels um the
Speaker 1: thing the thing that and we're all on a march
Speaker 1: to death right, as morbid as that sound, but I
Speaker 1: say that to say this at the end of it all,
Speaker 1: I hope and pray when my time comes that I
Speaker 1: get talked about the person that I was far greater
Speaker 1: than anything that I've done, than any part of my
Speaker 1: life on and off the football field of basketball court.
Speaker 1: And while Marian Barbara was a phenomenal football player, a
Speaker 1: great teammate, UM, a hard Noserunner. He was one of
Speaker 1: the greatest human beings that I've or in my life
Speaker 1: come across. That's something I was hoping you could share
Speaker 1: because he was a quiet guy in the media, and
Speaker 1: I think most fans, I mean, I don't that person
Speaker 1: of who he was and what he was like behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, and what he was like for as a teammate.
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of that's a no, no no,
Speaker 1: no and unknown for a lot of people. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't that Marian did not want to talk to the
Speaker 1: media or be a part of the media. He just
Speaker 1: never wanted the attention. He never wanted it to be
Speaker 1: about him. It was always about talk to my offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: talk to my quarterback, talk to my receivers. You know,
Speaker 1: without those guys, I can never really get my job done.
Speaker 1: You would be hard pressed. And I'm willing to bet
Speaker 1: a large amount of money that you will find anyone
Speaker 1: who has ever been a teammate of Marian Barber say
Speaker 1: anything negative about who he was as a teammate and
Speaker 1: as a person. Like we hear a lot of times,
Speaker 1: and then it's it's a kind of the cliche of
Speaker 1: you know, he'd give his shirt off his back for
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, I've watched Mary and do that. I've
Speaker 1: watched him be that giving not only to me but
Speaker 1: to strangers, to people, and you know, before the height
Speaker 1: of social media, like he was doing stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You know, five hundred grand took a new computers for
Speaker 1: kids in South Dallas. I mean the countless camps that
Speaker 1: he gave. And I mean this was a guy, his
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. When it came time for gift giving, they
Speaker 1: never they never were shot on a gift because he
Speaker 1: appreciated them that much. I can sit here and talk
Speaker 1: for hours on the person he was and what he
Speaker 1: meant to me and done for me. But it's it's
Speaker 1: sad that at thirty eight years old, his birthday is
Speaker 1: the tenth of Junie be Through turning thirty nine years old,
Speaker 1: that we lost an iconic and I do say iconic
Speaker 1: person in society. And and the thing that I guess
Speaker 1: frustrates me the most in the day and time that
Speaker 1: we live in is we're so quick to want to
Speaker 1: point out and exploit flaws as if we're perfect, and
Speaker 1: none of us are. We all have our our I
Speaker 1: just think there's times and places for those type of things.
Speaker 1: And you know, we all know that Maria was battling
Speaker 1: some demons that you know just are tough. And when
Speaker 1: Nate and I coming here and we talk about the
Speaker 1: game of football, and I say this over and over
Speaker 1: and over again, every time you step off that football field,
Speaker 1: you are less than. And what I mean less than,
Speaker 1: I don't mean the I don't mean you as a person. Yes,
Speaker 1: you as a person, but this game takes something away
Speaker 1: from you. Every single time. I'm thirty eight years old,
Speaker 1: I feel the effects. Nates sixty years old, and he
Speaker 1: can tell you the delictey of things that he deals
Speaker 1: with on a day to day basis because of this game.
Speaker 1: And some of us are able to work and manage
Speaker 1: through it, and others others aren't. But just no fans
Speaker 1: that that people that they're the people under those helmets,
Speaker 1: there's a human Those aren't superheroes, those aren't machines, those
Speaker 1: aren't these mythical feature figures. Underneath those helmets and those
Speaker 1: pads and the muscles and the extreme talent and the
Speaker 1: thing that you see them to do on day in
Speaker 1: a day out basis are human beings. And this game
Speaker 1: takes a lot from you. When you're done. It gives
Speaker 1: you a whole bunch, It changes your life forever, but
Speaker 1: in the same breath, it takes a whole lot from you.
Speaker 1: And and as long as I have living left on
Speaker 1: this earth, which none of us know how much, as
Speaker 1: young as I may feel, and thirty eight years old
Speaker 1: as a young age, I don't know what part of
Speaker 1: the I don't I don't know what part of the
Speaker 1: the the the spectrum I'm sitting on. I could be
Speaker 1: really old right now, because my number could be up soon.
Speaker 1: My number could be up old. But it's just one
Speaker 1: of those things where we have to remember we're in
Speaker 1: a We're in a really good moment right here. Don't
Speaker 1: come in and mess that up. Um. One of those
Speaker 1: things that that we have to just remember is just
Speaker 1: to be kind of people, like to be kind of people,
Speaker 1: to give when you can give what you can um.
Speaker 1: And and and there's people like Marian Barber who was
Speaker 1: on this earth and I only gave a tremendous amount
Speaker 1: on the football field, he did a ton off of it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss my friend, Um, I'm gonna miss my friend.
Speaker 1: And uh, if you are battling with something, if you
Speaker 1: are going through something. UM, get get get help, get help, um,
Speaker 1: get help, get help, um, because it's out there for
Speaker 1: you and you don't have to battle these things alone.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm gonna miss my friend. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you like him. Man. That mental thing it's so it's
Speaker 1: so huge because it'll take your life. Man, and I'm
Speaker 1: talking about living. You can be living, cannot be a
Speaker 1: part of this world. And that's mental. That's some some
Speaker 1: type of mental thing has gotten on you. And I
Speaker 1: was hearing stories about marrying and people that I was
Speaker 1: close to them, and I don't know how close you
Speaker 1: were to him, just but I tell people like right here, Uh,
Speaker 1: the government made a conservative effort years ago to start
Speaker 1: limiting to help for the mental. And uh, every time
Speaker 1: that we stick our hands in something, my great government,
Speaker 1: it ain't too many years later it raises his head.
Speaker 1: And now this mental thing is so huge. And that's
Speaker 1: why I tell people be caulful when you're trying to
Speaker 1: use the word mental, because it's some people out there
Speaker 1: that has truly challenged. So don't just throw that around
Speaker 1: like it's just you know, a handshake, you know how
Speaker 1: you're doing. It's serious, you know, And he knows how
Speaker 1: seriously it is. And I'm not going to try to
Speaker 1: get into Maryan's life, but you know you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't want that mental thing working on you. Um, you
Speaker 1: got something or no, I'm sorry, I didn't realize. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a kind of conversation when I came in, it's
Speaker 1: all good, Um, and you talk about just the kind
Speaker 1: of a person he is. Current coach on the Cowboys staff,
Speaker 1: Skip Pete was also uh Marian's running back coach, and
Speaker 1: he had something to say last week. Chris has that up, Chris,
Speaker 1: if you can pull that up for us, Yes, it's
Speaker 1: about a minute long. He had some words to to
Speaker 1: talk and describe who Marian Barber was as a player
Speaker 1: and as a person, a guy that I'm going to
Speaker 1: truly miss, had opportunity to coach him for several years.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable person. I mean, the guy showed up every day,
Speaker 1: had a smile on his face, came to work. If
Speaker 1: I could show anybody a model and a role to
Speaker 1: develop a running back to play in this league, it
Speaker 1: would be definitely marrying. I mean, the guy came to
Speaker 1: work every day, practice hard every day, did a great
Speaker 1: job in the meetings, every day. He was a little
Speaker 1: bit like obviously his name Barbarian as a player, very physical,
Speaker 1: very physical player as a runner, as a protector, and
Speaker 1: had the ability to run routes out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: Very unique in that way. But I think the thing
Speaker 1: that maybe a lot of you really don't know about
Speaker 1: him is that he was an unbelievable person. Give the
Speaker 1: shirt off his back, invite people over his house, cooked
Speaker 1: dinner for him. He was stopped by my home, play
Speaker 1: with my kids when they were young, and very personable
Speaker 1: in that way. I mean, he was very shy when
Speaker 1: he got to doing what I'm doing right now, but
Speaker 1: one on one, was very very entertaining to talk to.
Speaker 1: Hadn't really spoke to him in recent years besides when
Speaker 1: I just first got back a man. I'm going to
Speaker 1: remember as a guy coached, how he came in this
Speaker 1: building every single day, what he meant to his friends
Speaker 1: and what he meant to me, the guys he played with,
Speaker 1: and the determination to try to make everyone a little
Speaker 1: bit better person. Just add a question for you on
Speaker 1: this topic of mental health. You know, I know you're
Speaker 1: an advocate for mental health, and I think there's you know,
Speaker 1: I know, people that have been affected greatly by you know,
Speaker 1: mental health. There's two sides to it. I think one
Speaker 1: is if you're struggling, right, If you're struggling, how do
Speaker 1: you reach out or what do you do because it's
Speaker 1: hard to take that first step right. And then the
Speaker 1: other side is if you're if you're a friend or
Speaker 1: a family member, you may not see the signs or
Speaker 1: you may not know what's you know, you may not
Speaker 1: know what's going on, but you can tell something's a
Speaker 1: little off. How do you as you know, talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about if you need help, what should somebody do?
Speaker 1: And then if you're if you're seeing something that's off,
Speaker 1: what can you do to check in? You know, check
Speaker 1: on them because they're most people are gonna be I'm fine,
Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. But you can tell
Speaker 1: something's not right, like speak a little. I know you're
Speaker 1: a big advocate about it. Yeah, let me let me
Speaker 1: start with the second one. First, if you're a friend
Speaker 1: or family member or sibling, whatever it is, and that
Speaker 1: person and you see that person in your life maybe
Speaker 1: struggling with something, um, the constant check in because the
Speaker 1: biggest thing when it comes to mental health it's one.
Speaker 1: It can be a little bit embarrassing, especially when you
Speaker 1: talk about a person of status. Right you for so
Speaker 1: long you've been feeling of invincibility, right and for so
Speaker 1: long you've been looked at as this this this figure
Speaker 1: of strength of just stability, and when you aren't, it's
Speaker 1: sometimes a little bit embarrassing and kind of almost intimidating
Speaker 1: to reach out for help. And so as a friend
Speaker 1: or someone on the outside looking them, the best thing
Speaker 1: to do is to be honest with them, to show
Speaker 1: them that you can truly be trusted with their vulnerability.
Speaker 1: Continue to be patient with them, because if you're saying
Speaker 1: get help, get help, get help, get help, that doesn't
Speaker 1: push me to go and get help. It's hey, I'm
Speaker 1: here for you. You want to talk, let's talk. And
Speaker 1: and don't don't listen to respond, don't listen to have
Speaker 1: an answer, Listen to love that person, Listen to care
Speaker 1: about that person, Listen to actually what they are saying,
Speaker 1: and then try to be an advocate for them when
Speaker 1: they're facing those tough times. And then on the flip
Speaker 1: side of things, if you're if you are that person
Speaker 1: and you're sitting in that seat and you don't feel
Speaker 1: like yourself and you don't understand what's happening. I mean,
Speaker 1: of course you look at Google. That's a powerful tool,
Speaker 1: but but just understand that it is okay not to
Speaker 1: be okay. We we we so much so in this
Speaker 1: world that we live in today, especially the social media
Speaker 1: driven world, is we have to put up this facade
Speaker 1: of I am this or I am that, or I
Speaker 1: am good, or I am above this or above that.
Speaker 1: And the whole time you're you're you're you're crying, and
Speaker 1: you're dying inside and and and it's okay. It's okay
Speaker 1: to understand that something is not right, and it's okay
Speaker 1: to go out and seek those things or those people
Speaker 1: who are here to literally help you. That help is
Speaker 1: something that we must um uh look at as a
Speaker 1: place of comfort and a place of It's like it's
Speaker 1: like lifting weights. It's it's when you're a weak in
Speaker 1: the position and strength you go when you try to
Speaker 1: lift weights to get stronger. It's the same thing when
Speaker 1: you're struggling a little bit weak in your mental health,
Speaker 1: going to see a therapist, going to see a psychiatrists.
Speaker 1: That is the that is the calisthetics of the brain
Speaker 1: of getting yourself stronger and better. So don't look at
Speaker 1: it as a weakness. Look at it as that that
Speaker 1: that I just need to strengthen myself in some areas
Speaker 1: and I'm open for some improvement and to seek that help.
Speaker 1: And that's that fine line to be between of um
Speaker 1: of knowing and going to get that help and as
Speaker 1: a friend being there supporting that person too they get
Speaker 1: that help, and then helping them through that process. Because
Speaker 1: you're going to have some great days and you're gonna
Speaker 1: have some hellish days. And when you have those hellish days,
Speaker 1: you need that support group to be there for you
Speaker 1: to encourage you, to lift you up, that community to
Speaker 1: be strong. And I tell people, random people, if there's
Speaker 1: ever anything that I could ever do, talk to you know,
Speaker 1: kick it, whatever it is to kind of help you
Speaker 1: get through that. I am more than willing to do that.
Speaker 1: And it takes a community of people to to to
Speaker 1: wrap their arms around people a person or people to
Speaker 1: furthermore UM kind of eliminate that stigma of UM of
Speaker 1: mental health being a bad thing, or suffering from mental
Speaker 1: health is a bad thing, and it makes you kind
Speaker 1: of um less than when you're one hundred percent hole,
Speaker 1: you just need help in certain areas. Do you think
Speaker 1: that you know, the NFL has tried to address this
Speaker 1: problem in recent years and help it. Do you think
Speaker 1: there are are taking the right steps they need do
Speaker 1: mores or something different? It can be done. I think
Speaker 1: there's more. There's always more that you can do. And
Speaker 1: especially when it hit you some uh with somewhere close
Speaker 1: and again it comes that can the NFL or other
Speaker 1: people do more? Yes, but can that person that's suffering
Speaker 1: also get you know, you know, want to want to
Speaker 1: have that help uh and that you know, to be
Speaker 1: honest with that, that with some of the battle that
Speaker 1: that we all fought with maryon was you know, getting
Speaker 1: that help consistently uh for him, you know. And and
Speaker 1: so yeah, the NFL can do more. And I think
Speaker 1: as we get more and more, um, we see more
Speaker 1: and more of it now. I know that they started
Speaker 1: the NFLPA has started a program where uh for for
Speaker 1: for current players and for or retire players, if you
Speaker 1: are going to get any sort of mental health treatment,
Speaker 1: whether that be therapy or psychiatric or any any type
Speaker 1: of medical health thing, is that they're doing a one
Speaker 1: hundred percent reimbursement of it. So you go and you
Speaker 1: get that treatment, and you get that therapy, whatever it
Speaker 1: is that you need at the NFLPA will reimburse you
Speaker 1: for those costs that it may take. Some players have insurance,
Speaker 1: former players have insurance. Some don't. But it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's another step in being able to get the help
Speaker 1: that you need while you're playing and post playing career,
Speaker 1: because that's when a lot of it really talks to hit,
Speaker 1: when you get to that post playing career. For players,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this if there's anybody that's listening. I
Speaker 1: know this is a football show, but you know, if
Speaker 1: you're struggling with something, or if you just don't feel right,
Speaker 1: if you're angry all of a sudden and you never
Speaker 1: used to be, or if something's just you don't feel yourself,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of it's cool to go to a
Speaker 1: counseling session. Go once and it and just to me,
Speaker 1: I've been and I've always been like I don't need that,
Speaker 1: and and my my counselor told me after a few sessions,
Speaker 1: like you really don't need this. If you want to
Speaker 1: keep doing this, like you know, there's you know, it's
Speaker 1: fine to keep coming or whatever, But like, it's very enlightening,
Speaker 1: it's very it's educational. It lets you understand more about yourself,
Speaker 1: it helps you deal with it may not be anything
Speaker 1: with you, but it helps you deal with people. It
Speaker 1: helps you learn how to talk to people. It helps
Speaker 1: you learn how to use your eye, words, and you
Speaker 1: know those things. I never thought I would ever go
Speaker 1: to counseling, and I went, and you know, I had
Speaker 1: reasons why I went and I but it was a
Speaker 1: really cool process. And I had always put this stigma
Speaker 1: on it, like I'm I'm this hard ass, like crusty
Speaker 1: old dude. I don't need anybody telling me like you
Speaker 1: need to change who you are. And it really wasn't
Speaker 1: like that. It was really just you know, talking to
Speaker 1: somebody seeing a different point of view, and it was
Speaker 1: very I see where that could be possible, and that
Speaker 1: how do I deal with that? How do I work
Speaker 1: with people this way? So it's very it's not just
Speaker 1: you know, I don't feel I grew up thinking that
Speaker 1: something had to be wrong with you to go to counseling.
Speaker 1: A lot of people, yeah, a lot of people, it's
Speaker 1: almost it's you know what I the equivalent and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make light of this, and it's not a light situation,
Speaker 1: but it's like what we talk about on the show,
Speaker 1: going and get into pedicure or a manicure. It's like
Speaker 1: there's this stigma on it, but once you go, you're like,
Speaker 1: I might go back. That's actually kind of cool. And
Speaker 1: it's especially if you just take it as I just
Speaker 1: want to go talk to someone, because it's someone you
Speaker 1: don't know. It's someone that has no preconceived notions about you.
Speaker 1: They don't know what you do for work, they don't
Speaker 1: know what your story is, they don't know you as
Speaker 1: a person, and then they're just honest with you and
Speaker 1: it's very enlightening and it's it's educational, and I think
Speaker 1: everybody should go a few times, even if you don't
Speaker 1: need it, just go because it's a it's a life
Speaker 1: experience that you know, and for people that are struggling,
Speaker 1: I mean, it could ultimately save your life. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: save mine. I tell legs right here. You know, if
Speaker 1: you want to get to know yourself, if you truly
Speaker 1: want to get to know yourself, you know, and all
Speaker 1: these things that you guys have talked about, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: that person that's trying to help you going to say
Speaker 1: who are you? And you get to tell this person
Speaker 1: and you hope that yourself and I'm hoping I'm saying
Speaker 1: right is listening. Yeah. So that's how I look at it.
Speaker 1: If you want to get to know yourself, go in
Speaker 1: the room with nobody that, like you said, no preconceived notions,
Speaker 1: They don't know you, and you get to tell who
Speaker 1: you are and what you feel and what makes you
Speaker 1: feel that way, and listen to yourself talk. It's almost like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's almost like when you were a kid and you
Speaker 1: you talk a certain way, you hear yourself as certain way,
Speaker 1: and then when you you know, for me, it was
Speaker 1: a cassette tape and you recorded your voice for the
Speaker 1: first time and then you heard it, you're like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like that's me. That's kind of the same
Speaker 1: way with therapy, Like you think you you are this
Speaker 1: person and you go in and then someone tells you
Speaker 1: this is what I see and you're like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: that's not what I thought at all. Ye. Right now,
Speaker 1: layers pulled back, man, those layers are pulled back, and
Speaker 1: you under you discover, like you said, you discover more
Speaker 1: about who you are. I'll end on. Um, just a
Speaker 1: story about marrying that again. I have a hundred of them. Um,
Speaker 1: two quick stories. One we laughing joke on this show, right,
Speaker 1: and it's what do you guys call me? Right? You see?
Speaker 1: Well you amen, you know the prophet that you know
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, right. Well, one thing that
Speaker 1: I am comfort in knowing that I knew that Mary
Speaker 1: and knew the Lord, and um, he would always call me.
Speaker 1: He would always call me, Um, Jeremiah Hollygrove. You call
Speaker 1: me Jeremiah Hollygrove. And if you know anything about Jeremiah, right,
Speaker 1: he was a weefing prophet, right. So when you so
Speaker 1: when we laugh at joke about being called the prophet,
Speaker 1: like Marion had been calling me that for years. He
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, you you Jeremiah called and he
Speaker 1: called me Jeremiah holly Grove, Jeremiah Hollygrove. Like you tell it, man,
Speaker 1: you you tell it like it is man, you you
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Hollygrove. He would always like, man, read Jeremiah, you
Speaker 1: you Jeremiah. Man, you Jeremiah Hollygrove. And so um I
Speaker 1: laughed because like you know, you hear things and you
Speaker 1: see things coming to fruition and he's like, man, you
Speaker 1: Jeremiah holly Grove. And then another story just about how
Speaker 1: super awesome a Maan A Marian was when we were playing. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a guy who works with Oh he doesn't work
Speaker 1: on the staff, but he works with a lot of players.
Speaker 1: Now Michael Irvin goes to him, and guy's name is Igor. Okay,
Speaker 1: Igor has a gym in rock Wall. He's a gymnastics
Speaker 1: coach and Igor Igor, I'm not gonna say we, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say Mary, and is the reason that Egor is
Speaker 1: even even a name that's known around the Cowboys facility.
Speaker 1: Marrying so I was living in Irving. We're still over
Speaker 1: in Valley Ranch, and he's like, hey, man, come train
Speaker 1: with us. So it was me to shar Choice Felix Jones,
Speaker 1: Sam Hurd, Marian Barber. I'm like, mb I live in Irving,
Speaker 1: you know he lived at the time, he lived in
Speaker 1: his penthouse downtown. I said, I'll come once in a while,
Speaker 1: but I'm not driving from Irving to Rockwall to train.
Speaker 1: It's like almost an hour, right, I'm I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: drive right down the street to Valley Ranch and just
Speaker 1: make it happen. Man, I listen, he said, meet me
Speaker 1: at my house. Just meet me at my house. Days
Speaker 1: weeks months, I would meet him at his house and
Speaker 1: he would drive us from Dallas to Rockwall from Rockwall,
Speaker 1: Dallas every single day, every single day. Now we're all
Speaker 1: in the league. Now I'm probably the lowest man on
Speaker 1: the totem pole when it comes to who made the money.
Speaker 1: He was the top. And so after a while, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, hey, you know how much is training? And
Speaker 1: He's just like, I don't worry, don't worry about I
Speaker 1: just you want to train some more? Come on. So
Speaker 1: I pulled Ego to the side because what I didn't
Speaker 1: want was I didn't want to get to the end
Speaker 1: of this training sense. Egos like, hey, uh, here's a
Speaker 1: here's an invoice for ten thousand dollars that you owe
Speaker 1: for training and you know, all offseason. So I I
Speaker 1: kind of pulled Ego to the size and I said,
Speaker 1: they coach. I said, between you and I I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's my ticket? You know, like, what's what's
Speaker 1: my ticket? I don't don't surprise me. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't got surprise money. He's like, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: I said, you know, the train and we trained, we
Speaker 1: did gymnastics styles training and then we did a speed
Speaker 1: training with Coach Fly and he said, now you're good,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what does that mean? Like, I'm very,
Speaker 1: I'm very I want to be very clear because I
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Speaker 1: what He's like, so as long as you want to come,
Speaker 1: Mary said that you're taking care of and that was
Speaker 1: that was who he was as a person. He just like,
Speaker 1: as long as you want to come, Mary and said
Speaker 1: you're taking He said you are taken care of. You're good,
Speaker 1: and I was like really, He's like yeah. And I
Speaker 1: remember one day we were driving back and forth. He
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Speaker 1: stopped at the gas station and I was just like,
Speaker 1: I said, hey, bro, I got it, Like let me
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Speaker 1: pump and he said, you know, most people don't do
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Speaker 1: you know, like let me do this every one too,
Speaker 1: you know, once a week or some like that, just
Speaker 1: to say thank you. I can afford to do this.
Speaker 1: And he cried at the gas pump and he was
Speaker 1: just like, because most people are looking to take from me,
Speaker 1: not many people are looking to give to me. And
Speaker 1: so that's who, that's who. That's who my friend was.
Speaker 1: That that's who marrying uh Barbara was. And I know
Speaker 1: everyone says Mary to Barbarian side though he hated being
Speaker 1: called to Barbaria. He hated it because he always he
Speaker 1: all looked at like, I'm not a Barbarian. That's not
Speaker 1: who I am. I know, people, I get I get it,
Speaker 1: I get it. He understood it. He hated the name.
Speaker 1: He hated so um yeah, um, So there's no easy
Speaker 1: way to transition from that. Practice has started today. We'll
Speaker 1: get more into that Kirk got a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna take this seat back
Speaker 1: or not. If I'll stay here and host it and
Speaker 1: do my thing. Man took my seat, go ahead and host.
Speaker 1: I don't ever get to talk about anything. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: perfect to talk about anything. We just well, on the
Speaker 1: other side of the break, we'll we'll get into all
Speaker 1: the stuff that Kurt has uh set out for to
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Speaker 1: the Boys Welcome back. Welcome back to the most search
Speaker 1: podcast on the Cowboys Network, Hanging with the Boys. I
Speaker 1: am Jesse Holly. I'm joined by my brothers, Kurt Daniels,
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross and the Big Nate Nasty Newton. Did you
Speaker 1: like Pean called when people called you nasty? N No,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Wayne stop shooting. Nate Hungry Newton?
Speaker 1: Did like kitchen? Oh yeah, that's my name there? You'd
Speaker 1: like the kitchen. What's the best nickname? Let me pay
Speaker 1: bills first, I'm trying to steal hush. This segment is
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Speaker 1: I don't know how it works on this side of
Speaker 1: the table. What's the best nickname you guys have ever heard?
Speaker 1: Any could be a friend, sport, anything. What's the best
Speaker 1: nickname of any person? Or what what's the nickname you
Speaker 1: had at some point in your life? I'll start I
Speaker 1: might have told y'all before cat squirrel, squirrel, I've never
Speaker 1: heard that. Yeah. So I used to back was Louisiana
Speaker 1: and they don't know he country. I used to bartend
Speaker 1: and and uh in college, and after college I bartended
Speaker 1: a college barton. Every night there'd be two or three
Speaker 1: fights and I'd be behind the bar, and if one
Speaker 1: broke out at the bar, I would I would jump.
Speaker 1: I would jump across the bar and grab and fly
Speaker 1: off the bar and like grab them and put them
Speaker 1: in a rear naked choke and hold them and hold
Speaker 1: them until the bouncers got there. And all the guys
Speaker 1: called me cat squirrel because they said pretty quick boy
Speaker 1: being across that ball. I was little I was little,
Speaker 1: but you still still what could you see over the bar?
Speaker 1: I could see over the ball, I could slean drinks. Boy,
Speaker 1: I was a hell of a bartender. They didn't might
Speaker 1: not taste it real good, But I worked on volume. Bro.
Speaker 1: It was a college bar. It was. Yeah. It was
Speaker 1: a little plastic cups. We sold like three dollars drinks.
Speaker 1: We had like dollar beer night. Yeah it was it
Speaker 1: was nuts. But yeah, cat squirrel, Yeah, cat squirrel. What's
Speaker 1: a good one? Y'all heard wow that squirrel? And recently
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. Now came it was pretty good.
Speaker 1: You had you had one, you had a nickname Bro
Speaker 1: baseball man. Yeah, dirty Curt. I like Dirty Curt though
Speaker 1: I was a dirty Curt, like dirty Hurt. Wasn't because
Speaker 1: you wanted to. I'm just playing ball. Get dirty? Oh?
Speaker 1: I like dirty curtain Chance. For a reason, I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna be like linked down that trail, LA Park,
Speaker 1: double wide. Holly, what's yours? Jes Mine has always been Hollywood?
Speaker 1: What about you? How many different ones did you have?
Speaker 1: The kitchen was a favorite. My favorite one was big Time,
Speaker 1: which my coach. I like that a coach in high
Speaker 1: school and high school. Big time. Huh were you? Were
Speaker 1: you a chunky man in high school? Or man, Let
Speaker 1: me show y'all a picture. Man, Oh, I like college.
Speaker 1: Let me show you. Let me see what I pull
Speaker 1: it up? Man, Man, I was sexy, bro man, not man,
Speaker 1: I'm serious. Yeah, y'all can laugh all you want, Bro,
Speaker 1: Big Noon was sexy, cold blooded, sexy goodness. You know,
Speaker 1: y'all can call it what you want to, big fella,
Speaker 1: you call it what you want to. What some of
Speaker 1: the nicknames that Dan called before, y'all look at it? Timms?
Speaker 1: Is that a fact? Guy? Bad pants? That's the green
Speaker 1: top and you know it just my room rust color man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: a sexy Now you gotta show. We're gonna show the people.
Speaker 1: We're gonna show sex. Yeah, big sexy town. Was that
Speaker 1: in your D line in days? Yeah? When I first
Speaker 1: got there, that's when I made all we see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look at that big sexy new I had a book
Speaker 1: in my hand, too bad. I just woke up and
Speaker 1: went up to the lunch room and walked back. You
Speaker 1: just come from clash, Yeah, but I got yeah, job n.
Speaker 1: What's some of the nicknames that Dan called you? Those insults, hogg,
Speaker 1: M DG. Yeah, that was it? You know he called
Speaker 1: me the other day. You know I'm the last person
Speaker 1: he gonna call. I ain't got nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: Let me call called Nadan clown. Hey, Hoggy, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? Hog a? M D. You're gonna be fat.
Speaker 1: I don't care if you lose weight. I don't give
Speaker 1: you one hundred and eighty pounds. You're still a fat man.
Speaker 1: I see. Okay, that that that I told you all
Speaker 1: about when we were training camp was that last That
Speaker 1: was last year. Me and he were eating lunch and
Speaker 1: the phone rings and it's a it's uh. We got
Speaker 1: him in prime Time. He's like, watch this turns it all.
Speaker 1: He puts it old speaker and he goes, what's up,
Speaker 1: fat man? And Nate insults him. He insults him back.
Speaker 1: Nate insults him back, He insults him back, and he
Speaker 1: hangs up like it was no conversation. It was just
Speaker 1: this this, this, this, this hang up. And I always
Speaker 1: try to start it right. I'll say this. I said
Speaker 1: every time, what's up? Prime? Wait? What's up? Prime? You wait?
Speaker 1: I'm like, can you do something different? No? You're a
Speaker 1: fat man? Okay, you dirty, stinging, low down rat. Well
Speaker 1: keep it on the themes of nicknames adults. Shultz his
Speaker 1: nickname is franchise tag and he's frustrated. So Dalton Shultz,
Speaker 1: that's not like a man need to go find him
Speaker 1: a woman. All that money. Shultz was franchise tagged by
Speaker 1: the Cowboys this offseason and he signed it. He signed
Speaker 1: it quick, quick, quick too. I mean, when you go
Speaker 1: from a person who he never had that much money
Speaker 1: to being offered some guaranteed money, you take that all.
Speaker 1: You take that guaranteed money and now and now, and
Speaker 1: he's kind of don't know what to do. So now
Speaker 1: he's frustrated because he thought, over most players think, is
Speaker 1: that you signed the franchise tag and then you begin
Speaker 1: to work on a long term deal. Well that long
Speaker 1: term deal or to talk, so that longer term deal
Speaker 1: may not be proceeding in the way that Dalton Shorts
Speaker 1: thought it would, or his agent or his agent, whoever
Speaker 1: it may be. Of course, the agent is always trying
Speaker 1: to get to play the most money because they they
Speaker 1: get a percentage of that and so three percentage of
Speaker 1: maxes what you can get from an agent on your
Speaker 1: NFL contracts, So they're trying to say, hey, push that
Speaker 1: number up as far as we can get it, because
Speaker 1: I need to get my cut as well. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, here's something to think about. I never thought
Speaker 1: about this until this year. You signed what he signed
Speaker 1: for like thirteen fourteen million, yeah, maybe eleven. You don't
Speaker 1: get paid until you play your first regular season game,
Speaker 1: so like if something happens between now and in preseason
Speaker 1: or training camp, like he gets zero money because there's
Speaker 1: no guaranteed money on the franchise tag, like you don't
Speaker 1: get a check until you played the first regular season game.
Speaker 1: I never thought about that. And if I'm not mistaken, no,
Speaker 1: because they already he already signed it. I was gonna
Speaker 1: if he hadn't signed it in point nine. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: he hadn't signed it, the Cowboys can pull that franchise
Speaker 1: tag back if he but he already signed it, so
Speaker 1: that's already a done deal. The Cleveland really threw a
Speaker 1: wrench and the whole works here because they signed their
Speaker 1: tight end David and jo you know, fifty six point
Speaker 1: seventy five million deal four years. I mean that's Cowboys
Speaker 1: did not want to pay Schultz that. No, I'm sure
Speaker 1: Schultz's age, just like Sholtz had a better year than
Speaker 1: this doubt guy. You know, he needs this kind of
Speaker 1: money and me to call him something else he was was?
Speaker 1: What was that bad? Yeah? Um? Does Dalton Schultz have
Speaker 1: the right to be frustrated? Nah? I mean I think
Speaker 1: he has. He can feel frustrated because he wants this
Speaker 1: to be done, but he doesn't maybe have the skins
Speaker 1: on the wall to have that kind of leverage where
Speaker 1: he can pobarly Ezekiel. You know when Zeke held out
Speaker 1: for his his deal, he I mean, Dalton's not in
Speaker 1: that class where he can have that kind of land
Speaker 1: everage you get. I mean, is that true? Or is
Speaker 1: he the only option they got? So he does have
Speaker 1: some leverage. I think that is the leverage you got
Speaker 1: rid of his competition. What round did we draft him? Fourth,
Speaker 1: same round we drafted the tight end this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that is his I think when when
Speaker 1: Dalton Shultz and his agents walk to the table, sit
Speaker 1: down at the table, they say, listen, who you got?
Speaker 1: They say, they say one, They go, you know the
Speaker 1: guy that you pay forty million dollars to. You want
Speaker 1: to know the guy who we threw the ball to.
Speaker 1: Kind of almost if not the most the second most
Speaker 1: on this football team. It's my guy. You know the
Speaker 1: guys who had some of the best numbers as a
Speaker 1: receiver on this football team. It's my guy. Oh and
Speaker 1: by the way, everything that you have behind him is
Speaker 1: either just a flat out blocker or rookie. Now, do
Speaker 1: you want to have you're a forty million dollars dude
Speaker 1: safety net not show up and be there, or do
Speaker 1: you want to trust your forty million dollars dude with
Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys who aren't route runners? And
Speaker 1: who are who's either rookie? And by the way, who
Speaker 1: you got starting a wide receiver on Game one? Yeah, Cdnober,
Speaker 1: maybe Washington, we don't know. So he has some leverage.
Speaker 1: I mean, he has some leverage. And I'm always for
Speaker 1: the players getting his most money they possibly can, no
Speaker 1: matter who they are, what they or what they've done.
Speaker 1: I've never ever been mad when the Joneses have given
Speaker 1: out a bunch of money because nine time my tend
Speaker 1: is going to a player, no problem. But I do
Speaker 1: have a problem when it all comes down to the end,
Speaker 1: when you say, wow, man, we really paid this dude
Speaker 1: that type of money because it ain't showing up on
Speaker 1: the field. And that's a great question. So that's that's
Speaker 1: a great statement, Nate, because we you go back to it,
Speaker 1: you look at and you go the Cowboys front office
Speaker 1: had really been that good. And when it comes to
Speaker 1: negotiating and getting deals done right, look at recent history.
Speaker 1: You could have got Dak for a lot less than
Speaker 1: forty million dollars. But they they they they they bluffed,
Speaker 1: and they bluffed and they bluffed, and they cost them.
Speaker 1: Zeke had two years left on his deal. Zeke had
Speaker 1: two years left on his deal. They could have been like, listen, son,
Speaker 1: you can hold out all you want, if you want
Speaker 1: to play the game of football in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: you will do it for us, or you won't do
Speaker 1: it at all. At least that's what they should have done.
Speaker 1: But what did they do. They cave. They gave Zeke
Speaker 1: a bunch of money, and now what's happening. They're regretting it. Um.
Speaker 1: You look at that, You look at the deal. Um Um,
Speaker 1: I'm drawing the blank. Um. You look at the deal
Speaker 1: that they gave Jayleen Smith. Right when they was in
Speaker 1: the they were in the negotiation a Dak Prescott, they
Speaker 1: were kind of like, well, Bundy's there whoever come get
Speaker 1: it gets it. Taylor said, I'll take care and they
Speaker 1: paid them. All of a sudden, Dan Click came and said,
Speaker 1: this guy can't play football. He literally cannot play football.
Speaker 1: I can, in the words of of of of Mike Singletary,
Speaker 1: can't play with them, can't win with them. I can't
Speaker 1: do nothing with this guy that you've just paid. You
Speaker 1: know what, But the bottom line is simply this right here.
Speaker 1: Now you find to do the same thing for a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick tight end that Now y'all may not
Speaker 1: believe that is you know, I understand that players come
Speaker 1: when players come, but you just really telling than me
Speaker 1: that the real reason this guy was who he was
Speaker 1: was it was two guys that were standing outside that
Speaker 1: add up everything of value. That was a Maori Cooper
Speaker 1: and that was that CD Lamb and they add up
Speaker 1: everything of value. But I'm still gonna come to the
Speaker 1: table of his agent and say, you can come on
Speaker 1: the numbers, say that he was a B and C. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so when that second corner to get on him, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, wow, why should say doing what he did?
Speaker 1: And then y'all gonna blame the offensive coordinator. Cowboys just
Speaker 1: play off this tag one year and then leave it
Speaker 1: to Ferguson to come in and if if they are
Speaker 1: if I think that Zeke contract which is now biting
Speaker 1: him in the butt had and the Jalen contract, it's
Speaker 1: kind of been a sticking point for them. They're saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, no more of us getting these bad
Speaker 1: deals in, no more of us giving players money who
Speaker 1: maybe don't deserve long term money. I say play the
Speaker 1: tag out from for me, I say play the tag
Speaker 1: out now. This goes back to that playing that game
Speaker 1: of chicken. Now the Soults goes out there because we
Speaker 1: don't know what the receiver. You know, the receiver kind
Speaker 1: of to be cashed for twelve hundred yards and eight
Speaker 1: and eight tds tends you tip your hat to him
Speaker 1: and you had him a check, and you had him
Speaker 1: a check. But or you let him go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But let these dudes prove it. I'm trying to We
Speaker 1: should know by now one year does not make you
Speaker 1: a bull dog. It may make you a high class poodle,
Speaker 1: but it does not make you a bullet. Had two
Speaker 1: years of sixty catches. I will be shocked if he
Speaker 1: is not here when it's mandatory he gonna come. Man,
Speaker 1: I think this is all agent driven. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're just knowing his works. One week back, you said
Speaker 1: you don't get paid nothing, not a dime. Yeah, it's start. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean knowing his work ethic. Like if you ever
Speaker 1: stay around after practice, he's the last one to leave
Speaker 1: the field. He's running sprint after practice like that. There's
Speaker 1: no way he misses any kind of time. No way.
Speaker 1: I will be shocked a little bit. The Njoko contract
Speaker 1: is actually really friendly. Yes, it is two years. If
Speaker 1: you really look, got three meal the first year and
Speaker 1: what the second year? Yeah, so first year is three
Speaker 1: million and the second year was like eight. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're paying Shultz ten this year ten five right to
Speaker 1: nine almost eleven, almost eleven million dollars. Well, how nice
Speaker 1: is that you go from that rookie deal that he
Speaker 1: had to just here's one year that you're gonna make
Speaker 1: more than you would have if you'd played under your
Speaker 1: rookie deal for twenty years. Now in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: he's making eighteen against the restructure. Well, all right, we
Speaker 1: got one more second left. We still got some top
Speaker 1: and talk about Tyler Smith working about left tackle. This
Speaker 1: this is your This is gonna be your This is
Speaker 1: gonna be your this is gonna be your deal right here? Uh,
Speaker 1: Nathan got his head of his microphone discussion. Tyler Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith worked at left tackle. Should he focus on one
Speaker 1: position or flip back and forth? This? Ain't it do
Speaker 1: when we drafted it for the left guard? Right? This
Speaker 1: is he? He is him? I tackle and then and
Speaker 1: your boy, your boy, your boy. Tyrone Smith already dealing
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Speaker 1: take away, Jess Mama grows. Wow. All right. So Tyler Smith, uh,
Speaker 1: this last week at OTA's moving around Nate and this
Speaker 1: is all this is all your segment right here now,
Speaker 1: yes it is. You have the only six time Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl offensive lineman on this show, so therefore you have
Speaker 1: no choice but to take offensive lineman related questions. Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith this week was this year was drafted to be
Speaker 1: the starting left guard according to Mike McCarthy and company,
Speaker 1: um even though he played tackle at Tulsa. Well at
Speaker 1: OTA's because your boy Tyrn Smith was out with some
Speaker 1: back issues already, Tyler Smith was playing some left tackle.
Speaker 1: And before you start about the transition from right tackle
Speaker 1: to right guard. I mean from left tackle to left guard,
Speaker 1: left guard to left tackle. The Governor had some words
Speaker 1: about this transitioning and maybe not as difficult as you think.
Speaker 1: The President governor, he's special. I'm sorry, I'm sorry special, sorry,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying he's special. Zach Martin had some things
Speaker 1: to say about that transition. For me, I'd rather stay
Speaker 1: on one side than move right side the left side.
Speaker 1: So at least he's kind of the footwork is summer,
Speaker 1: and obviously the protection stuff in space is different. But
Speaker 1: at least um your footwork in the run game especially,
Speaker 1: he's going to be the exact same at left tackle
Speaker 1: left guard. I hate this, so it'll be good for
Speaker 1: him to do both. Don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 1: Don't do that. You're saying, you say special, you said
Speaker 1: the president specially. See. This is what bothers me. I
Speaker 1: hate this. This is what bothers me. When the elite
Speaker 1: after let starts talking like why why did Magic Johnson
Speaker 1: not last as a coach, He's like, man, you didn't
Speaker 1: see that, dude, break down the lane. No magic, I'm
Speaker 1: six two, you were six nine. Magic. You had exceptional
Speaker 1: perifrium vision. Magic you know what I'm saying. Come on, mate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when I rotated the ball all over there, you didn't
Speaker 1: know to swing back on. No magic, I didn't have
Speaker 1: that IQ. You have magic. This kid that is talking
Speaker 1: has been in the league, has been elite, has been
Speaker 1: a first All offensive lineman, All Pro when he walked
Speaker 1: in the league. No, this kid put him at a position.
Speaker 1: Let him work that position. And if and if, my man,
Speaker 1: who I love the death and you had a thing
Speaker 1: last week? How important Tyronn is still probably the fourth
Speaker 1: third or fourth most important guy on our offense. If
Speaker 1: he's not, if he's having back issues, now, they's just
Speaker 1: put this kid left tackling. Let's roll with it and
Speaker 1: find your left guard. Let's not play that game. Because
Speaker 1: that same forty million dollar brother, that same forty million
Speaker 1: dollars quarterback he was talking about saying that Shouts is
Speaker 1: the number two receiver. Now, don't he need to have
Speaker 1: some time to throw the ball to get it to
Speaker 1: this guy Tyring? Play? You gotta play him. You can't
Speaker 1: put him. I mean, if his back hurt, what money
Speaker 1: is this? If it's back hurting in June? How how?
Speaker 1: How how are we gonna pamper him through training camp
Speaker 1: because if it's hurting, now, do you think all right?
Speaker 1: So from the Romo treatment. Real question, do you think
Speaker 1: he's hurt his back is really bothering or do you
Speaker 1: think he just like I'm in my eighty seventh season,
Speaker 1: I just don't want to. But see, this is the
Speaker 1: thing about it, when you become a certain guy like Tyrone,
Speaker 1: is when you become that guy, you just walk out
Speaker 1: there with your jersey on. What's wrong today? I ain't practicing?
Speaker 1: Why why I gotta have a stiff back? Why has
Speaker 1: anything got to be wrong? Hey man? Just saving it
Speaker 1: for the season, isn't that Yeah, that's the most simplest
Speaker 1: way when you see what a veteran guy, Why has
Speaker 1: it always got to be something wrong? Because now you're
Speaker 1: giving us guys saying, wow, man, if it's back hurt now,
Speaker 1: as soon as soon as uh, Big Sam's hid him,
Speaker 1: because that's a big old guy. As soon as Big
Speaker 1: Sam join me here with this bull rush, what's gonna
Speaker 1: happen to that back? Then? Noah? Man, he if he
Speaker 1: ain't practicing, just telling people, hey man, we're saving him
Speaker 1: for us for the season. So if so, if say
Speaker 1: that he does start the season and he inevitably gets hurt. Dude,
Speaker 1: what was that word? You don't don't make me say that.
Speaker 1: He pronounced like nate, like bugs. Buddy, never never understood it.
Speaker 1: I understood. Take like, middle of the season, would you
Speaker 1: take Tyler Smith and move him from left guard to
Speaker 1: left tackle? If ye, we move him in the middle
Speaker 1: of Oh yeah, I'm moving because it's still come down
Speaker 1: to your best five. It's still as a rookie, you'd
Speaker 1: want him. This is it, this is what you focus on.
Speaker 1: This is this is where you're gonna be if you
Speaker 1: here's something the President did said the right thing. He
Speaker 1: ain't like he going over to the other side. Like
Speaker 1: we did a right tackle. How we said, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: you're great over here, right tackle. Oh let's track overre see.
Speaker 1: Because I tell people it's two positions you just can't
Speaker 1: play with. That's the left tackle in the center. You
Speaker 1: can't mess around because both of these guys are so
Speaker 1: so important to that quarterback. They are so so important.
Speaker 1: So but I want to have a problem with him
Speaker 1: sliding out there but doing it. You know, that's if
Speaker 1: Tyrone gonna miss a couple of games, you know, but
Speaker 1: if he gonna but if he's gonna be out the
Speaker 1: rest of the season, which nine times happen, Tyrone, don't
Speaker 1: get mad at him, because if you go out that
Speaker 1: first game, then you know he's gonna miss four more.
Speaker 1: It ain't never failed. If you go out one game,
Speaker 1: we always say he will be back. He's feeling good,
Speaker 1: he's day to day, and now of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: day to day turned in like three weeks. Situation. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I gotta move your rookie to left tackle, and then
Speaker 1: you got to fill your left guarden. We got more guards,
Speaker 1: i think now than we have tackles. Who is the
Speaker 1: swing tackle? Who is the backup tackle? They're talking potentially
Speaker 1: bar that have you seen ball? Have you seen ball play?
Speaker 1: He just hurt all last year. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: The rookie guy. The other guy, he's a rookie. He
Speaker 1: has nothing on the left tackle, the guy Williams. He
Speaker 1: has nothing on Williams. And he has nothing on the
Speaker 1: big guy, the big, big old You know they got
Speaker 1: a big old tackle out there too, like bigger than
Speaker 1: the world. Besides, well, let's go on, he left or right.
Speaker 1: I think he's been working on the left sum He
Speaker 1: was a guy they talked about us. Maybe they got
Speaker 1: here's who they got, list of his tackles. Aimon Simon, Well,
Speaker 1: let's go, Tyler Smith, Josh Ballavante Collins, Tyrn Smith and
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele. Well, let's go to the ball or both
Speaker 1: six hades. They're pretty good balls a big dude. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they do they have feet because when you go
Speaker 1: to the left tackle and you don't have feet and
Speaker 1: Dak and Dak, you better run, you better condition conditioning.
Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, if Dak stand back there with all
Speaker 1: of these unknowns, because when you it's one thing that
Speaker 1: an unknown offensive line, you can design something to get
Speaker 1: the ball out, quick, swing it, you know, move around.
Speaker 1: But guess what you have a second unknown. You got
Speaker 1: a whole slight knew wide receivers at different positions and
Speaker 1: different responsibility. So now you got two unknowns. So you're
Speaker 1: just gonna drop back and hope for the best. That's
Speaker 1: that's man. I've been unknown your running game too. If
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to do anything more, you're not
Speaker 1: feeling me with a lot of confidence. I'm just being honest. Man,
Speaker 1: I gotta win in two games. Man. Oh, here we
Speaker 1: go until training camp. They ain't got him seventeen and oh,
Speaker 1: I think that's it right there. I think we end
Speaker 1: on that. I think Nate saying they got win two games,
Speaker 1: they got to earn two game. Now they're gonna go
Speaker 1: four and on the preseason three and on the preseason.
Speaker 1: We need to win every game we can. Let's see,
Speaker 1: we need to go through and on preseason, y'all. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Oh boy, well, I'll try to win it.
Speaker 1: We'll finish up OTAs this week, right, and then we'll
Speaker 1: start voluntary without voluntary, mandatory mandatory this see, this is
Speaker 1: a volum told and then it's you better show or
Speaker 1: we're gonna tap them pockets. Uh? Is that next week?
Speaker 1: Next week? Next week? So mandatory mini camp starts next week.
Speaker 1: That's when all the big dogs are back. Dollar shows
Speaker 1: will be there, a slice of pizza. He doesn't show, okay,
Speaker 1: mini camp, Mini camp, Okay, really play. They can find
Speaker 1: they can they can find him up to like fifty
Speaker 1: grand a day every day he doesn't show. You ain't
Speaker 1: even got no money yet. I was saying, yeah, he
Speaker 1: still went on the first chair. You still holding on.
Speaker 1: You have to get an advanced advancing that money, Um,
Speaker 1: come on Man Hill. Come on, yeah, Don's gonna see
Speaker 1: you in the hallway. Now you got you got some
Speaker 1: words for you. Only person he's been been at having
Speaker 1: the words me is Parson. I looked at that dude.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the only dude over the word. But
Speaker 1: that's the only one everybody else. Get with it, bro,
Speaker 1: brain what you got well, Nona do it? Fellas Man.
Speaker 1: Good to see you, Curtis. Thank you for joining us. Shannon. Yes,
Speaker 1: I hope your mom and dad down. Way to go,
Speaker 1: man with your mother, manthday, your mother every birthday. Well,
Speaker 1: good to have about me. Good, good to have you here, Nate, Chris,
Speaker 1: thank you for holding us down on the back, Chris Will,
Speaker 1: Chris Will, bro Will for keeping us uploading. Is Jass
Speaker 1: back there with you? Chris? What's up Jazz? We gotta
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