WEBVTT - What About Bob? 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:06.000 This is the most traumatic podcast ever, and iHeartRadio podcast. 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:10.479 I can't tell you how much I appreciate you doing 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:15.200 this in general, much less the day after the derby. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:16.759 This seemed like a great idea. I'm going to do 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.560 a post Kentucky Derby show with Bob Guiney because it 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:21.640 means so much to him. Let's just do it the 0:00:21.680 --> 0:00:23.880 morning after. God, it was a terrible idea. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.400 It seemed like a great idea when you brought it up. 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.240 And now I have no voice and I'm getting on 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:30.600 a plan. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.560 So yeah, Bob Ginny just walked in my hotel room 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.239 so we could record this. He was kind enough to 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:40.279 bring a bottle of gatorade in two waters. As you know. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.800 Here's the thing. This weekend has reminded me how much 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:44.559 I love you and adore you and why we are 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.720 such good friends. And then last night, I guess this 0:00:47.800 --> 0:00:51.560 morning has reminded me, well, why we can't hang out. 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:56.000 No, No, two of us together is just a bad mix. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.680 The last thing we I think we complus last night 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.640 was all dancing in your room at three o'clock in 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:04.039 the morning. 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.440 Yep, that's pretty much it. That's the last thing I 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.280 have in my repertoire for the. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.760 Weekend in the memory, You've been coming to the Derby 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:11.560 for how many years? 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:12.000 Eighteen? 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.520 This was eighteen. It's something that we have been talking 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:18.160 about doing together for eighteen years. Yeah, I mean since 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.080 you started this, And obviously I was busy handing out 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.600 roses around the world and always got home the week 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.360 after the Derby, so it just never worked out for 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.600 eighteen years. Finally Lauren and I were able to come 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:29.720 and do this and it was awesome. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.160 You know, it's such a perfect fit for you. I mean, 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.240 someone who you know, you actually know a lot about 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:38.960 the horses and horse racing and things of that nature. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:41.120 But I mean everyone just the door'd haven you guys. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:45.319 Here, Louisville, the Derby, everything was just spot on. We 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.200 had an absolute blast. The only thing that didn't make 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:50.880 it out was our dignity in your voice exactly, you know, 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.480 I always know that was always your thing. Bob loses 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:54.160 his voice. 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.320 That's crazy for someone who's like a singer, because I'm 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.040 like my job, my whole life. It's like you would 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.720 think I'd have vocal stability, but I do not. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:03.640 What is it about this because now you're a married 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:05.920 man with kids, and it's not so easy for you 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.160 to leave home and do things like this. Why is 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.359 the Derby, Like, why is this such a thing for you? 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.040 Why do you want to come back here every year? 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.760 I think the fact that it falls on my birthday weekend, Yes, 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.359 it is always a big deal. And then I think 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.440 it's just the same group of people doing the same thing. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.800 It's like a consistency and that and that friendship. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:28.640 And then I really love what the York Sisters do. Uh. 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.880 They they commit to giving all this money to charities, 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:33.480 and so it means a lot to me. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.400 It's not just another like, yeah, you know, show up 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.320 at the opening of a Kroger type of thing. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.480 It's like, actually, you you show those pay well? 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.880 All those are great and I do enjoy a pastry section. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.400 And if you need, Bob and I for any Kroger. No, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:46.360 we love it, We love it. 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:48.560 But I just I love their commitment to the charities 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.840 and they and they give them. They're almost all children 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.520 related charities, and that just means something to. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.200 Me and you. For you, I know it's your your 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.640 best friends are here, your dear friend Warre Moon of 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:04.320 course NFL legend. Jimmer's not athletic at all, but still 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:07.080 still a friend of yours. Yes, surprisingly he was on 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:08.839 the show, right, No, he wasn't. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:12.920 Jimmers was not. No, Jimmers was my brother in law's 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:14.880 best friend growing up. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:16.960 Okay, so my brother in law came into my life 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.880 in tenth grade and he's you know, quite a few 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:22.760 years older than me, and Jimmer is in between us age. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:25.200 Why so, so I related more to Jimmer and we just 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.280 became fast friends. 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.200 So Elsie and I of course talked about our Derby 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.360 experience and all that. But this thing has definitely become 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:37.400 a marathon, not a sprint. It is extended into three 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.560 full days of it has become the super Bowl. It's 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.560 become you know, Marty Gral, It's an event. It's it 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.480 started the day you guys got your Thursday Friday's the Oaks, 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.840 and then the Unbridled ef party we went to, and 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.680 then you have the Derby and then after parties. It's 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.320 this thing is it's a long run. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.360 It's a long run, and it's not like I mean, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:03:59.880 you know, back in the day, it would have been 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.280 a different experience. Just I mean, you know, I'm hydrating 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:05.120 a lot. So the fact that I lost my voice 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.760 is surprising to me, but it happens. 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:11.720 So I know why you do this, the brotherhood, and 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.760 you really love it. It means a lot to you. But 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.520 how difficult are these times? Now? You have a one 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:19.360 year old, you're a four year old, it's not easy 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.880 to leave home? Now how much does your wife hate you? 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:23.120 A lot? Right now? 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.359 She's not here, so I know she couldn't make the 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:29.560 trip because we are Our childcare option fell through, and 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:35.080 so I came alone. And yeah, the guilt is just 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:36.120 off the charts. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.400 As it married. Being married is one thing. Being married 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.960 with kids is totally different because the guilt thing is real, 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:47.640 whether she imposes it or not. It's yeah, many times, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.719 and much of it is self imposed because you just 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.320 know you're leaving her in hell. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.160 I mean, and I'm out here, you know, just having 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:56.920 the time of my life. 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:58.360 So because you have a one year old, a four 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.760 year old, that means they're not probably keeping through the night. 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.120 Somebody's sick, somebody's doing something, someone's crying, someone got hurt, 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.440 or even if things are perfect, it's still a lot. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.880 And so how how do you weigh those things? How 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:12.359 do you guys get through it? As a couple. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:14.680 I just like everyone else. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.360 I mean, you know, it's one of those things where 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:19.680 even though a lot of our lives are lived in 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:21.760 front of other people, the truth be told, we're just 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.280 a normal couple like everyone else. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.200 So we struggle through that stuff. 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.400 I'm gonna go home today and try and act like 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.280 I'm not hungover, and you know, put in a full 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:33.480 day whatever it needs to be done, take the boys 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.359 and you know. But but my wife really does. She 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:38.480 does all the heavy lifting. 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.400 That is key, the you know, the returning from a 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:46.279 trip and saying you're tired, acting tired. That is the 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.440 only thing worse than going on the trip, is that move. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.280 Yeah, if you go home and lay on the couch, 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:50.960 you're done. 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:51.839 You better suck it up. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.000 Yeah yeah, I will be high energy all day long 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:57.040 and my voice will hopefully I have restored by then. 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:58.080 And she'll never know the wiser. 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.040 Yeah. Oh, I'm sure she has no idea. You parted 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:03.680 like a rock s Yeah, right, but it is as 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:08.680 a when you were in a relationship like that, even 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.240 the best of them, it's not easy. No, And is 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.040 she not to put her on the spot, but was 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.400 she supportive of all this or at times even if 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.400 she is supportive, is it still you have those conversations 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.960 of sure, you're son of a bitch for people, Oh. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:26.320 Yeah, she's she's super supportive. I mean, you know, one 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:30.159 of the things I love about my wife is we 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.480 are it's it's interesting. It's a great balance. Like she 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:37.360 doesn't have any interest in She won't walk the red 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:38.680 carpet with me nine times out of ten. 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.360 Not that she doesn't love me and support me, she 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:42.000 just doesn't care. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.520 And you know, and it doesn't it's not something that's 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.000 in her wheelhouse. But she understands what I do, and 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.360 she's been, you know, so supportive. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:52.239 It's been great. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:53.960 You know, I was just thinking, and I don't know 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.719 why this just dawned on me, but you are kind 0:06:56.720 --> 0:07:02.159 of in the situation that I was in when we met, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.400 when you were when you were bachelor. Joshua was born, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:10.640 he was young, Taylor was born rite at Ryan and 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.560 Trista's wedding, and so they even they were a little 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.440 younger than even your kids now. But yeah, so we 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.200 we've switched places, we have, but we're the same age 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.400 and were the same age. And by the way, I 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.920 can't begin to tell you how much I I honestly 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.560 love the fact now that I do see people like you, 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.160 everything's kind of switched and I've gotten to watch everybody 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.840 go through what I had been going through when I 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.840 was working on the show. Whether it's Ari and Laura 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:38.760 and Ryan and Trista, yourself. You know, everybody has Sean 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.960 and Catherine have you know, fifty kids? I think, I think, 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:47.760 But it's fun to watch all of you, and it's 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.400 fun to watch all of you also no offense struggle 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.320 with it. Just like I was back in the. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:53.840 N I don't know how you did it. I really 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:54.480 don't know how you did it. 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.400 I mean, your schedule was so crazy back then. 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.480 I couldn't even imagine being in your shoes with the 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:01.840 way I am not with my kids. 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:02.760 And as much as I want to. 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.960 Be there, that's the thing, even even a weekend like this, 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:07.960 that means a lot to you. And it's a tradition. 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:10.560 You know, your kids will get to an age. It's 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.520 easy when they're four and one to a certain degree, 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:15.760 but next thing you know, there's gonna be lacrosse playoffs 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:19.200 or a piano recital or who knows that the father 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.400 son camp out whatever that stuff. You just there's no 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.400 way all of a sudden, these things become so minuscule 0:08:25.480 --> 0:08:26.040 in your life. 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.360 These will be secondary, you know. And I and and 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.840 I know that. I think that was partially this year 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:34.439 when our child care fell through and my wife was like, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:36.160 you know, I'll stay home, you know, you go ahead. 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:37.920 I think part of it was that, I mean, part 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:40.880 of it was this isn't gonna last forever, you know. 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:43.440 And so I mean I always thought about that. 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.400 Like after the Bachelor stuff, I remember thinking to myself, like, 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.080 there's bound to be a Flavor of the month guy 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:50.120 that's gonna take my place. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:53.440 It's gonna happen any day, and you know, so I'm like. 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.319 I might as well enjoy these moments while they while 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.880 they come, because odds are they're not gonna last forever, 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:00.000 you know, And they've lasted way longer than I anticipated. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:05.800 How has being a dad changed you? Like, what do 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.240 you think is the biggest change? 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:10.480 I don't even I mean, I think the fact that 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:13.760 I don't even think I knew what love was until 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.360 I had my kids. Yeah, I love my wife very much, 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.679 but you know, there's a car coming and it's gonna 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:19.320 hit the kids. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.120 I'm you know, to quote Ryan Reynolds, I'll use it 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:23.000 as a human shield. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.680 Right. It's like, you know, I love my wife to death, 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.359 but it's like you don't know love until you realize 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.959 that you've created life. And and then you have these 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:36.040 kids that just everything revolves around what you can provide for. 0:09:36.000 --> 0:09:39.240 Them every waking moment. Yeah, you either think about them, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.839 worry about them, wonder about them. And you and I 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.360 talked about this. I think it was yesterday when you 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.160 brought it up. You're like, I don't know what I did. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:46.760 Like, I don't know. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:48.440 I don't know how I thought my life was busy. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:51.240 I don't know how I thought my life was filled 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.440 until this. Like, yes, it's so different. 0:09:53.480 --> 0:09:54.920 I can say that truthfully. 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:58.160 Like I I when after we hit grat Soon, our 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:01.280 first son, it was kind of interesting because as we 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.880 were getting ready to have Blake, I'm like, oh my god, 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:07.120 I'm I capable of loving someone else as much as 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.120 I love Grayson, you know, And how am I going 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:09.760 to be a good dad? 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:10.520 What do I have to do? 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.280 And you know, but I had a great example with 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.800 my dad. My dad was the best man I've ever 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:16.600 met in my life. And so for me, like I 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.600 at least I can do the siest version of me 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:20.600 trying to be my dad. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.480 It would be the greatest dad hopefully ever. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:23.920 And the funny thing is, I'm sure you thought you 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:25.959 were busy when you guys had Grayson. Yeah, yeah, and 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.400 you're like, oh man, this is nuts. And then when 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:29.199 you have two. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.679 You know the second one, you know, it's funny. I 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.679 feel like, I mean, I'm fifty two. 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.000 By the way, happy birthday. Thanks. I wish we were 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.559 going to all be together just one more night so 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.520 we could celebrate your birthday. Although we did do a 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:42.559 good job of it last night. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:43.400 He celebrated very well. 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:44.920 Jeff Ruby's let's give a shout out. 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:45.840 Oh great time. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.440 We had a spectacular dinner at this We were staying 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.920 at the Gold House, which is right here in the 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:55.960 middle of Louisville downtown and there's this spectacular steakhouse. It's 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.959 like the premier steakhouse is And I'm getting nothing for this. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.000 We paid for dinner full last night. Trust me, we 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.400 all paid it full last night. But man, was it 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.200 worth it. And it was really cool because so not 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.440 to dive into the horse racing thing, but I did 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.520 pick no, I did pick the winner of the derby, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.640 but Mage was the winning horse, and the winning connection 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:20.640 showed up, meaning the owners. Javier Costellano, the jockey that 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.600 won the derby, came in and here's what's cool. I mean, 0:11:23.679 --> 0:11:26.719 just everybody in the restaurant got up standing ovation. It 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.000 was so fricking cool. And we had a great dinner 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.920 of Warren Warren Moon, one of our local sheriffs who 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:37.400 takes care of us, and Dora who is spectacular, and 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.040 then you know, l Z was there and Jimmer's and Lisa. 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.880 We had a great crew and celebrated your birthday last night, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.280 saying you have had your birthday very nice. We got 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:45.840 your cheesecake. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:46.960 Is that it? 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:48.360 Cheesecake? Guy? 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.160 But yeah, you know, as we were singing to you 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.320 and you dove in, I thought, I don't know if 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:54.079 I would have gotten your. 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.160 Cheesecake, probably wouldn't have been my first choice. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.360 But okay, I enjoyed it. So I do still know 0:11:58.400 --> 0:11:58.920 you well enough. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:11:59.360 You do. 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:03.160 Indeed, obviously we met what is it eighteen years? 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.840 What was it three? 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.920 So twenty years ago? So it's your fifty second birthday, ye, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:15.840 happy birthday, and it's our twentieth anniversary something twenty years together. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:17.920 It's a long time to be friends, it really is. 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:21.040 I mean I always say of anything that came out 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.640 of the silly show that we did together, the friendships, 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.079 the lasting friendships, you know, there was you, and then 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:32.280 Firestone came shortly after, and we actually facetimed him last 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.400 night with Yvonna and his kids. I should have mentioned 0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:38.880 them to those beautiful kids and the guy they just 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:40.480 put out. They put out spectacularly good. 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:41.800 Look they really well. 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.600 I mean, yeah, yeah, doesn't fall You have those two 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:47.400 ingredients as the primary kicker. 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:48.559 You're gonna have good looking kids. 0:12:48.600 --> 0:13:04.240 But those friendships have been the best part. Yeah, you 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:07.559 were early days. I don't want to say you were experimental, 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:09.280 but it was still. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:12.280 I think I was experimental. I mean, you know Andrew 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.240 uh so so uh. 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:17.679 Of course there was Alex Michelle, and then trist Aaron Burgi, 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:22.679 then Andrew Firestone. Uh yeah, Trista, then Andrew Firestone, then me, right, 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:27.480 and I think, uh, you know, the the mold wasn't me. 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.520 The mold was you know A you know, I mean 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.800 Andrew Firestone I believe is the premier bachelor of all time, right, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.720 I think Ari Ham, you know, Prince Lorenzo burgh Azy, like, 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.160 there's these guys that you know they have that it's 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:44.880 like a it's almost like Prince Charming, you know, life. 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:45.480 In your mind. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.600 And even though Andrew is one of the most down 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.720 to earth guys you've ever met in your life, he 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.280 still has a firestone, which is pretty significant. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:53.080 And here I come. 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:55.400 You know, my dad's a Detroit cop and I'm like, hey, guys, 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:57.880 you know and uh, but it was such a fun 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.319 time and I owe so much to you because, as 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.120 you know, I think you you really put a stamp 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:09.480 on the show without being the lead of the show technically, right, 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.040 you were the only consistent person that was You're the 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.960 face of the Bachelor franchise. It's not the Bachelor. It's like, 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:18.320 whoever that Bachelor guy isn't handing out flowers? That was 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.880 secondary because it was always Chris Harrison, and they knew 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:21.320 that was the one. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:22.080 Thing they could count on. 0:14:22.600 --> 0:14:24.560 And what a lot of people don't realize is how 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:29.960 much you know, mentoring you did behind the scenes to 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:30.800 keep people sane. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.360 I mean, because it's a crazy experience. 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.440 Yeah, it's nuts, and it was in you know, I 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.160 say it was early days for you just because We 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.760 didn't have it figured out yet. It wasn't fully baked now. 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.480 The idea was still evolving and you'd had a little success, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.000 but we weren't great at what we were doing yet. 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:49.120 We could build TV and make TV, but it was 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.000 there was this human aspect that we weren't great at yet, 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:56.520 unfortunately for you, and you were. You were shaking up 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.600 the snow globe a little bit. You were breaking the mold. 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:00.160 You know, everyone kind of fell in love with you 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.000 on trist A season. You were like the you know, 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.240 the happy, go lucky guy or whatever. And what was 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.440 interesting was when you came in. I remember this because 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.440 so for people that don't remember, because you were four 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:15.400 years old when Bob was on. So you came in 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.680 in a boot. You you would just either rupture your 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:18.560 achilles or something. 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:22.560 Yeah, I just had I had just had reconstructive knee surgery, right, 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.600 and then I rushed back, excuse me, and I rupture 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:26.480 my achilles as well. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.800 So Bob came on trist A season. Let's let's just 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:30.840 say a little bit chubby. 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:31.320 You were. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.480 You were the chubby guy, but you were like the chubby, 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.480 funny guy. And he had a boot on. He had 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.320 just had surgery put on thirty pounds, but he had 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.200 everybody in stitches and is as is still the case, 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.600 he's the pipe piper when Bob walks in a room. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.520 He's just one of those people you can't help it. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.600 All of a sudden, you're having fun, you're dancing, and 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.000 you realize you're going to be with this guy. And 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.840 then we decided, let's, you know, let's go the kind 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.120 of I don't want to say Anti Andrew Firestone, but 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:57.960 it was a different look of the show, like let's 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.280 bring in this guy who was maybe a little little 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:04.120 bit chubby, yeah, and funny and you know, the everyday 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:08.080 guy Detroit, Michigan. Yeah, and you came in and you're like, 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:10.280 well that wasn't really me, dude, I'm a football player, 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:11.920 I'm fit. I'm like, that's not. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.760 When I came back as the Bats, I remember everyone going, 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:16.920 you know, I mean, because. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:17.680 You were ripped and in shape. 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:17.920 Yeah. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:18.720 The articles that. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.120 You know when you're when you're putting a show like that, Yeah, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.880 you're just a normal dude. And so your mom is 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.560 at the grocery store and looking at us weekly and 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:30.400 the headlines are like, you know, did he get plastic surgery, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.320 Like did this happen? And my mom's like, what's going on. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.040 I'm like, I don't know. I'm like I have no idea. 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.960 It's like I'm just nowing back to my normal self 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.320 and everyone thinks I'm, you know, doing something different. 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:41.600 But it's funny though you were time stamped in everyone's 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:42.880 head during just the season. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:44.840 Yeah, and you know it was kind of interesting. 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.800 I mean, just the season was so awesome because you know, 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.120 we go on that show and you know, like you said, 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:52.560 it wasn't fully baked yet. 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:53.040 Yeah. 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.880 I think the creators of the show and the prisoner 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:57.120 of the. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:01.160 Show wanted it to be more drama, whereas we're thirty 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.600 or twenty five guys hang out going Man, we really 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:04.280 like each other. 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.639 And al y'all's group, especially this ridicule. Yeah, and I 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.640 will to this day say that was the greatest collection 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.720 of guys if you look top to bottom. I mean, 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:15.760 that was like the twenty seven Yankees. 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:17.720 Genuinely loved each other. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.080 Like I remember one day I got in a lot 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.480 of trouble. You weren't at the house this day. Sure 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:25.680 you saw the footage, but we're all on the hot 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:26.920