1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet. I'm welcome to Season eighty five, Episode three, 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: Joe Days eight Guys, a production of I Heart Radio. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: This is a podcast we take a deep dive into America, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: share consciousness, and say officially off the top Buck Coke Industries, 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 1: Fox News, fuck off. It's Wednesday, June five, two to 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: a nine team. My name is Jack O'Brien, a k 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Jacksie driver for rankin Kin Jacks Freestyle, and I'm thrilled 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: to be joined as always by by co host Mr Miles. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Somebody once told me the zide guys gonna roll me, 10 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: need help to make every dad. He was sounding kind 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: of high with his coal house ach O'Brian. I think 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: his name was Miles Gray. Wait, there's more well home, 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: take start, come, don't stop coming. There's some taco bell 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: and I hit the ground running. Didn't make sense, No 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: MEXI mel but your tummy gets full, better, lose your belts. 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: So much to do, so much to see. So what's 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: up with Miles is e d You'll never know If 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: you don't go, you'll never shown your heat. Don't glow 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: pay now, you're a pot star, but the Coke bros 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: go play pay now, you're a rock star. Fuck Fox News. 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: Now get bade and as we play a good only 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: podcast stars quick. Yeah I don't honestly, I only know 23 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: the first half of the first verse. Oh that was impressive. 24 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: My a came from rich Jefferson at device No, um, 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: not Richard Jefferson, the former Nets player Jefferson. Yeah yeah, 26 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: this is Dick Jefferson. Richard Jefferson. Yeah. Um yeah. They 27 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: even got your your your habit of calling your stomach tummy, 28 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: my tummy, keeping my tummy fl tom tumaru. Uh. Well 29 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: that was great, fans, very extensive. Okay, Well, we're thrilled 30 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: to be joined in our third seat by the talented 31 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: Melissa Losado Oliva Hia Oliva. Thank you for the effort. Yeah. 32 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: How are you doing. I'm doing good, you are. I'm 33 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: excited to be here. You're not from l A right now. 34 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: I live in New York. How you like in l A. Um, 35 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: it's cool. I am confused by the car culture. I 36 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: think you mean, like all the low riders, Yeah, all 37 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: the all the bird scooters those as I guess. Like 38 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: I was walking down a sidewalk and then it slowly 39 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: became not a sidewalk and then I was almost hit 40 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: by a truck. Oh yeah, yeah, because we have an 41 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: aggressive pedestrians. Yeah, agenda based on the city planning. Yeah, basically. 42 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: I also don't know how to drive. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, 43 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: you're good though, you know, have a good tour guide 44 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: with you. Yeah I do. Yeah, so you're Jamie Loftus 45 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: is good for him. Yes, she's my pal, she's your pal. 46 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: She's been showing around l A. Yeah, she's the best. Wait, 47 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: so there was a sidewalk that just ended and went 48 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: into a yeah shell Silverstein. It like it became really skinny, 49 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: I guess, right, and then it's like yeah, and then 50 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I was like tit rope walking on a concrete strip. 51 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say, the sidewalk turned into a car, 52 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Like maybe there's some confusion. You're a poet, so like 53 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: I could see like a magical realism thing happening. I 54 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, the sidewalk turned into a car. And 55 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: then my memories from childhood, my father, that's right, just 56 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: make that up. Oh yeah, off the dome you should 57 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: go on death poetry slam? Yeah? Is that still? Did 58 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: people ever tell you that you should go in death? 59 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: So I used to watch this videos like that's so 60 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: excited about them? Um, and watching I'm like, what was this? Yeah? 61 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: Do people still get down like that because you're a 62 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: poet and don't you know it? But is that? How 63 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: big is slam poetry? Now? You know it's it's there 64 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: are pockets still it kind of like imploded like most 65 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: art communities do. Yeah, they're not like any competitions this 66 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: year or whatever. I think like the DPL, like the 67 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: poetry launch of l A like still is a thing. Yeah, 68 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: pretty cool, So we should go things. And when I 69 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: go there, I don't mean here at a t I'm there, 70 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: take my hat off. I have no hair, my child, 71 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: so I'm saying it could be my hair all the 72 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: like breathe. All the best poems rhyme. I've always said 73 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: Dr SEUs Shell Silverstein sometimes, Um, that's what my agency 74 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 1: told me. If it doesn't rhyme, it's not a poem. 75 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: What what is? Like? The most mainstream thing is deaf 76 00:04:55,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: poetry jam. The most mainstream slam death poetry. Slam him. Fuck. 77 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't know my tattoo is wrong because that's the 78 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: that's where my mind immediately goes as death poetry. The 79 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: most mainstream that like poetry has broken through in the past. 80 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: Like I guess, like the most mainstream would be like 81 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: button poetry. Have you heard of it? It's like button button, 82 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 1: who's got the button? Yeah, it's just a man with 83 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of buttons. It's like they like would go 84 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: to like poetry sims and record poets and then like 85 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: make viral videos out of that animate them or something. Yeah, 86 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: and then maybe like three minutes of a thing. So 87 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: that'd be like the I guess like the most mainstream thing. 88 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, deaf poetry jam is like I 89 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: think it dead. I think I think it's like they're 90 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: like trying to bring it back. Yeah. Yeah, well, you know, 91 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: onto the next thing, to the next thing, the next Well, 92 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: we're thrilled to have you, and we're going to get 93 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, 94 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: we are going to tell our listeners a few of 95 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: the things we're talking about today, such as the fact 96 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: that Punked and singled Out are coming back on mobile 97 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: on an app you can't download yet called quimby or 98 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: Quick Keep Keep By, Bye bye bye whatever, And if 99 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: you search the name of it right now, you get 100 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: the Bible quiz. Yeah in the app store. Oh like 101 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 1: que be like quiz Bible. Yes, I would do pretty 102 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: good on that. I think we're gonna just check in 103 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: with President on his trip to the u k. How 104 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: he's dealing with the feedback he's getting from the British people. Uh. 105 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the government uh being able 106 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: to shut down the internet or governments around the world 107 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: being able to shut down the internet. Uh. We're gonna 108 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: talk about whether Nancy Pelosi is playing nine D chess 109 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: or ten D chess. We're gonna talk about whether town halls, 110 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: these televised town halls that Democratic candidates are doing, whether 111 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: they're actually like affecting whether they have a shot at 112 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: the nomination or not. There's a new report out it's 113 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: a civilization is going to collapse by We're gonna talk 114 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: about that. So no need to deal with climate change. Yeah, no, 115 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: it's because of climate change. Yeah, but I'm saying because 116 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna end like who cares, right, because that's what 117 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: that's But I feel like that's the effect of all 118 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: these articles have on people like you. Keeping I don't know, man, 119 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: my sense of like creeping nihilism just like, uh, not 120 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: that we personally feel like there's nothing to do with it, 121 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: but I feel like there's a subconscious effect if you're 122 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: constantly being fed a diet of like the world's gonna end. 123 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: Yeah you said that, and I was like, oh, thank god, right, yeah, 124 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be really bad, Like it's not gonna 125 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: be like, it's not gonna be tight. Yeah, it's not 126 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: gonna be tight, or it's not gonna be like an 127 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: asteroid comes and like takes us out one day. It's 128 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: gonna be like, uh, you know resources, not the town, 129 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: the road, town, south, the southeast, inherit the earth. Yeah, 130 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be like the road, which is where 131 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: my mind immediately goes anytime people are talking about change, 132 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: because I have kids now, so I'm like, oh, yeah, um, 133 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: that's what I say, mother, mother, motherfuck. Well, these kids 134 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: are gonna slow me down the apocalypse. And that's exactly 135 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: I gotta po We're running from marauders. We gotta get 136 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: to Buston, we gotta get to Southie. Um. And then finally, 137 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: just thinking of the gatekeepers trying to enter South Buston, 138 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: what are you looking for a pal please? We need food, 139 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Patriots for life or what who's the greatest socks player 140 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: ship named three Bruins. You know, Bill Buckner was like 141 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: a great baseball player, the dude who let the ball 142 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: go through his legs. Really yeah, he was like a 143 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: really great but we only know him. We only know 144 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: him as the dude to let the ball go to 145 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: whoop seed and seeing that would get you access to 146 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: the Kingdom, right, because the post apocalypse is going to 147 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: be like the town, and also like the town in 148 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: that there are no helicopters because if you introduce police 149 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: helicopters to that movie, it doesn't make anything anymore, right, 150 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: Like we got to get to the bridge. The cops 151 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: can't follow us into South. It's not like they have that. Uh. 152 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: And also we're gonna talk about a weird YouTube trend, 153 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: just weird. But first, Melissa, we like to ask our guests, 154 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that's revealing about 155 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: who you are? Um? Okay, so two things inter related. 156 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: The first is I was on a plane and I 157 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: searched can you bring vitamins on a plane? And that 158 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: was followed up by acute radiation poisoning? Um, yeah, I've 159 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: been watching Chernobyl. Yeah, And then I was like, well, 160 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: these vitamins get radiation and then radiation poison Yeah, and 161 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: that's that's not true. It's not I mean, I don't know. 162 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: I never found out some you know that flight attendants 163 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: get radiation poisoning just from being closer to the sun. Yeah, 164 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: really yeah, just from being above the clouds all that time. 165 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: They get like they slowly get radiation poisoning in ore, 166 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: like a certain percent like a small percentage, but enough 167 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: for it to be noticeable. Statistically, they're more likely to 168 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: die from certain types of cancer because they're closer to 169 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: the sun. Wow. Yeah, lesson to us all. Yeah, by 170 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: the way, that was my response to you saying you 171 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: watched Chernobyl was the most cheerful anybody's been about that show, 172 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: because everyone's like when they tell me to watch it, like, 173 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: fucking head, dude, just watch it. It's so good, but 174 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: it's so up. It's really fucked up. I was listening 175 00:10:51,080 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: to the accompanying podcast, Yeah, Radiation Poison for Life was it? 176 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: It's all real Soviet Union. Um yeah, it's like really 177 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: I talked about this on Ethnically ambigu As yesterday too. Yeah, 178 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm like obsessed with it. Yeah, yeah, the Chernobyl podcast. 179 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: If you're going to listen to another podcast, which I 180 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: don't recommend, but if you have to, that's a good 181 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: one to check out if you're watching that show. What 182 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated? Um? Something I think 183 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: is overrated lately as like inspirational language, especially like coming 184 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: out of the poetry world. Everything is like do you 185 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: and yourself? Are you a woman of the world? Um? 186 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: I was just at this conference when this woman was like, everybody, 187 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: stand up, close your eyes and think of a woman 188 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: who was dead and and talk to this woman. Do 189 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: you talk to this woman the way you talk to yourself? 190 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: And then she was like I tricked you into loving yourself. Um. 191 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: It was just like creepy and scary and yeah, I 192 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: feel like it's just like dead dead to me. The 193 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: same thing as like yeah, wait, so what do you 194 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: mean this is go a wave right now? It's like 195 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: a trend in that in the in the poetry world 196 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: of like being mad inspirational, Yeah, being like mad inspirational, 197 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: or like the same thing where it's like it's just 198 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: like empty words, like saying like representation matters, when really 199 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: you're just saying like, oh I hope people who look 200 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: like me. You're telling me to shop at Target, you know, like, yeah, 201 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: performative wokens what Yeah, that's miles of new character woke by. 202 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:31,599 Speaker 1: But that's good initiate virtue signaling sequence. But yeah, I 203 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: I do feel like America especially gets on this sort 204 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: of positivity for the sake of positivity kick, whereas other 205 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: countries are like I'm said today, and that's because something 206 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: is making me sad and that is appropriate to the 207 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: situation sometimes, or just addressing the conditions that are bringing 208 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: about these things, like where it's like, oh no, no, 209 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: don't worry about your dad. Just fucking read this T 210 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: shirt right, Yeah, it's unhelpful. Yeah, you can't have happiness 211 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: without I. Um, I don't know without without I, or 212 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: it's just happiness even I Ness, man, think about it. 213 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: It's like your highness Wow, wow, dang you guys. You 214 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: guys are both poets highness, thank you, Dang. Are there 215 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: any like because I feel like inspirational poetry is has 216 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: a huge presence on Instagram. Are there any poets who 217 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: are popular on Instagram that you actually respect or any 218 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: good uses of poetry on Instagram or social media? Yeah? 219 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: I mean I think like Instagram is cool and that 220 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: it's like a good way to get yourself out there 221 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: and like get your work out there, um and whatever. 222 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: In the capitalist engine, it's hard to it's hard to 223 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: do that. Um, so it's a good way to hustle, 224 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: I guess. Um. But because of that, it kind of like, 225 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, there's like a weird commodification of like clicks 226 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: and likes, right, and it begins to pervert the art. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Um, 227 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, I would say there's a like, you know, Yesica, 228 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: she's um l a bass she's pretty cool. Yeah, and 229 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: she put their poetry on yeah, all of her stuff 230 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Yeah. Uh. What is something you think is underrated? Um? 231 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: I was thinking, I really I don't know how Okay, Like, 232 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: would you rather questions I think are underrated? Yeah? Um 233 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: yeah like parties? Yeah, I think you just like find 234 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: out a lot about a person. Yeah, hit me with one. Um, okay, 235 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: would you rather um, Okay, this one's like weird, this 236 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: one's extremely involved. Um, would you rather have no dietary 237 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: issues at all but just poop for one day? The 238 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: whole day? You poop all day? Um, but the poop 239 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: like slides out of your neck, or you have no 240 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: dietary but you like don't have any dietary issues. You 241 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: just don't have to poop ever, and that's one day 242 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, it's one day a year. You like 243 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: schedule it one day that the only time you pooper. 244 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: Do you poop regularly the rest of the year, you 245 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: don't don't at all? Okay? Yeah okay? Or or or 246 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: you just remain the same, same dietary issues, same whatever. Wow, 247 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: I realized my gastro intestinal privilege because I typically don't 248 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: have dietary issues. Well, actually, I can't eat pizza when 249 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm drinking because the acidity and tomato ste makes me vomit. 250 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: So you're one of poison me offer me pizza when 251 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm drunk. But I know so much about you. Yeah, 252 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: you know what part of me? I like the most 253 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: revealing things. I like to pop. I like to pop, 254 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, So one day, like out my neck, 255 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: I need minutes every day watching you. When you say 256 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: out of your neck, it's coming out of like up here, 257 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: like a gill through your mail. Or do you have 258 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: ship guilt? I guess I guess it's a ship guilty. 259 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: The science of it. Yeah, yeah, I'm doing that one. Yeah, 260 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: well really yeah, I would love to do full day 261 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: ship guiling that you can schedule. It doesn't just like 262 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: happen out of nowhere. You can't then think about that 263 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: like you never have like you never have a situation 264 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: where you're like, right, oh, then I wouldn't mind camping 265 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: at Coachella, right yeah, right, Okay, But here's the thing. 266 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: What if like something important was coming up, like someone's wedding, 267 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: but you had already like scheduled your ship day what 268 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that wedding. Yeah, I don't like weddings. 269 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: Or you'd be like, guys, I'm going to be in 270 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: the bathroom the whole time I am here. Just do 271 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: not come in here, right because you'll see something that 272 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: will actually completely change your world. That would be amazing. Yeah, 273 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: make it happen like this. That's that was a good 274 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: brain exercise, right, yeah exactly, Like what limits will you 275 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: go to? Yeah? But I think I think generally I 276 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: would have a bias towards always like doing something weird 277 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: to change in my life, just because like I don't 278 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: know that I'm a seeker, you know, Um, so I 279 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: mean not to just to take this completely somewhere else. 280 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,479 Speaker 1: But there's a website called Conversation Starters World and they 281 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: have a collection of the best would you rather questions? Really, 282 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: I would like to read. Would you rather lose the 283 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: ability to read? Or lose the ability to speak? Heard 284 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: from the booth? From the booth, there was a groan, 285 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: but he scheduled his shoes. Yeah, he's having a digestive. 286 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: So for you lose ability to read a losing that 287 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: he speaks, Oh my god, to learn, you end your 288 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: ability to learn, or end your ability to express yourself. Basically, 289 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: can I like is writing like? Can I like? They 290 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: can't communicate? If you can't read the you definitely can't write. 291 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: But if I can't speak, can I still write? No, 292 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: you could speak and then maybe someone will can dictate. 293 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: If you want to hack thing, I think you can 294 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: hack this because I think the text to speech applications 295 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: are going to be getting better and better. So now 296 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: you're going to have the robot thing. But you cannot 297 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: live in the modern world without being able to read. Okay, 298 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: how about this? Would you rather be covered in fur? 299 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Covered in scales? M hm um for because then you 300 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: could remove it? What do you mean you could like 301 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: skin removal with laser search. So you're just you're just 302 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: looking to hack all these ships you're not even looking at. So, like, 303 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: have you seen wolf Girl where she performing it? It's 304 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: like movie with Tim Curry, but it's about this girl 305 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: who like her like Gypsy mother. It's like very fucked up. 306 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: She like drops her off at a carnival because she's 307 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: covered in fur. She's like a freak. Then she grows 308 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: up and she's like wolf Girl in the carnival. And 309 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: then she meets this like skinny white man who's like 310 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: really gross, but he falls in love with her and 311 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: he's like, oh, by the way, my mother is a 312 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: scientist and she is like coming up with a cure 313 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: for people like you. And then she takes it without 314 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: letting him know. But the more she takes it, the 315 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: more feral she gets. She becomes like a beautiful, like 316 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: naked woman, but she's like a wildish. She don't work clothes, 317 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: she'd be eating rost. Clearly somebody's fetish. Yeah, that was 318 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: just working man, Like what if Janet was just like 319 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: a fucking animal and she was just had for fun. Bill, 320 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm your assistant and I can hear you out loud. 321 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry anyway, be covered in what is a myth? 322 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: What's something people think is true? You know to be false? 323 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: By the way, great underrated. That was a lot of fun. 324 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Um Oh man, wait what is it? What is something? 325 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: It's just anything that you think most people think is 326 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: one way that's the other way. Okay. Can I do 327 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: a thing that I think is like a theory kind 328 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: of like okay, okay, I have a theory that um 329 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 1: uh okay, what was that? The Earth is flat? And 330 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: I feel you ever think about the earth? Yeah, nobody 331 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: seen the edge. I have a theory that Ariana Grande 332 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: is such a good singer because she has no sense 333 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: of self and that's why she's like a really good impersonator. 334 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: She just like has a really good ear and she's 335 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: like that's why she's like it's like pretending to be 336 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: like brown. Wow. So she actually has no idea who 337 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: she is. She's like, all ears is my my Okay, yeah, wow, 338 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: that's you went. You went in her fucking brain right there. 339 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: Have you ever read h Yeah, he has a story 340 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: uh called I think it's called Shakespeare, but it might 341 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: not be, but it's a it's about Shakespeare. And that's 342 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: his exact like reading of how Shakespeare became Shakespeare is 343 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: he was like a completely empty vessel, and so he 344 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: just like pulled in other people's personalities and like just 345 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: paid such close attention. It's really interesting because it's like, yeah, 346 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: he he just tries to like figure out what the 347 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: internal life of somebody who was like a millennial genius, 348 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: like a once in a millennium genius would be, and 349 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: it's like probably a defect of some sort. Yeah. Wow. 350 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 1: So Shakespeare also like Ariana Grande yea, Yeah, I mean 351 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: Ariana Grande, the Shakespeare of the modern world. Yeah, yes, 352 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: So that my guess. That's interesting though. But that's interesting 353 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: to think of, like how you're because she's really amazing 354 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: at doing impersonations and things, and then but her as 355 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: herself seems like a version of a person. She thinks 356 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: a cipher. Yeah, because I remember, like very early on 357 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: her career, I did an interview with her and I 358 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: wasn't sure if I was talking to like actually her 359 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: the whole time. I was like, I can't nail her down. 360 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: Did you ask her the question? Is Ariana in the room? Exactly? 361 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, with Ariana, stand up right, now close your eyes. 362 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: I'll talk to her. I just tricked you how to 363 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: love yourself. I know. I was like asking her. She's like, 364 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: liked like opera and I was like, oh, do you 365 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: like the classics? She's like, I love the Pirates of Penzance. 366 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, cool you. I thought you're 367 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: gonna do some touring dot But okay, all right, well ship, 368 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: we have figured out Ariana Grande, We have nailed a couple. 369 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Would you rather We're gonna take a quick break. But 370 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this show is off to a 371 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: great start, guess, and we're back. And uh so the 372 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump is having issues. Uh he's having a 373 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: difficult time trying to digest the response he's getting from 374 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: the people of London. It seems like because he believes, 375 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: uh that the people when they're booing him are actually cheering. 376 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: That's what he said, dozens of people cheering me on 377 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: his didn't didn't you say that? Like Fox was also saying, 378 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: like when Ivanka stepped out, they were like, oh, they're 379 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: they're not booing her. Everyone is like in full court 380 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: press denial mode, right right, because like when it comes 381 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: to Trump, the projects that are actually well wishers, and 382 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: they say, there's that's fake news. Cut to all this 383 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: footage of all all y'all Londoners out in full force 384 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: flying the Trump blimp, baby blimp and ship. Everything has 385 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: only shown they do not want you there. They think 386 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: you are a disgrace because they have eyes and morals 387 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: and they made Brexit happen. Yeah, and they still are 388 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: like what about this, dude? But yeah, And then on 389 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: Fox and Friends there was a moment where Ivanka was 390 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: like leaving with John Bolton, like from ten Downing Street 391 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: and there are people who could see down there. The 392 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 1: second should come out booze. But Brian kill Amede, I mean, look, 393 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: he knows it's the president's favorite show. He probably knew 394 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Daddy was watching. So he's like, I have to fucking 395 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: spin this so I don't actually acknowledge that maybe she's 396 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: also reprehensible that I'll play the clip for you just 397 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: you can hear the mind twisting that Brian Kilmed had 398 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: to do. Again, comes Bunk and John Baldwin, uh and 399 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: some security the National Security Advisor and Ivanka Trump walking 400 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: across together. It does and it's not for a Vanka's 401 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: for John Balton he loves it. Fucking take that. I 402 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: eat that ship. Oh I'm sorry, I eat booze for breakfast. 403 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Keep him coming like moons deep hated, disgusted that it 404 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: was like Bassie too, like are people hitting tones? I 405 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: have not heard? Yeah, And it's funny because when she 406 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: first comes out, like you could hear her process that 407 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: there were people making sounds, and I think she's used 408 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: to cheering most of the time, so she kind of 409 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: like sort of pepped up and then with that boo 410 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: wave hit her face kind of just turned a little bit, 411 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: but she still try to keep her you know, pageant 412 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: queen vibe up. And it's John Bolton and he loves it, 413 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: you know, because he lives on a steady diet of 414 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: self loathing. Yes, So is that the continuation of that sentence? 415 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: I love? Yeah. I mean because Fox knew, like what 416 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: you're hearing, there's probably what's going on in Trump's head 417 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: where he's like he loves it. So this is actually 418 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: good things. Actually he's dunking on them right. Um, he 419 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: was somehow stuffed at the rim, but I turned that 420 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: into a dunk. So let's talk about this is something 421 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: that we talked about after the terror attack in Sri 422 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: Lanka that their government had actually shut down the Internet 423 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: for a day or at least shut down Facebook and 424 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: social media. And at first I was like, that's probably 425 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: a good thing because Facebook has spread like so much 426 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: disinformation and hate and caused genocides in some cases. But 427 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: apparently this is becoming a go to move for governments, 428 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: like specifically autocracies, and because you you in inhibit their 429 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: ability to organize probably when you take away social media. 430 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: So it is a board story. Yeah, So worldwide, Bloomberg 431 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: is reporting that shutdowns of all or part of the 432 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: Internet in countries rose to a hundred and eighty eight 433 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: government interventions in the last year, up from seventy five 434 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: and two thousand sixteen. So, um, I don't know, man, 435 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: that's that's scary because you know, it hasn't happened in 436 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: the US. But like you kind of think, oh, well, 437 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: they'd never get away with shutting down the internet the USA, 438 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: But like how would how would they not get away 439 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: with it? Who would catch them? The media? Who's not 440 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: who's on the internet? Yeah, how are you going to 441 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: get them? You're gonna go to your local news stand 442 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I mean all it's gonna take is 443 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: who knows if like goes south for Trump, and like, 444 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people suspect it's going to 445 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: be a shaky transition of power. What kind of weird 446 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: ship could happen then, you know, I mean it's uh. 447 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: And also when you think of a lot of it too, 448 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: like as people become more and more disillusioned and disenfranchised 449 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: by capitalism, you are going to see people take up 450 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: to take to the streets to exercise their power to 451 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I get it. One percent of you'all 452 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: own this ship, but there's of us and we're fucking angry, 453 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna take your ship now. But I can 454 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: see the Internet shutting down then too, or it's like 455 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: um yeah, yeah, yeah, and uh. This came up over 456 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 1: the weekend because Google Cloud went down I think for 457 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: other reasons, not because the government was shutting it down, 458 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: but just testing if they could shut it. People were 459 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: wondering if this was the government like testing a kill switch. 460 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: Do you guys like back everything up? No, I back 461 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: every website I go to up on a hard drive. 462 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: That would be excessive. I only back that thing. Yeah, 463 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: everything on hard drives, everything on old c ds. You 464 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: know what I mean, CDR WS, CDR W plus is 465 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um, you know, oddly enough, 466 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: I just don't take care of a lot of my media, 467 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: Like everything is so transient to me. I'm like, am 468 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: I really gonna look at photos that I took three 469 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: years ago? Probably not, because half the time I'm just 470 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: taking photos of dumb ship that like I'll never be 471 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: like gather around kids. This is when Junip played at 472 00:28:53,680 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: Outside Lands. Jose Gonzalez's voice would haunt me. It's like 473 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: a Swedish what's that guy's name? Who's who's saying you 474 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: got a friend? James Taylor? O, God, yeah, James Taylor 475 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: saying you got a friend in me. He's saying a 476 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: version of you you got down in a need. That 477 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: was my eighth grade graduation song. We wanted it to 478 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: be Saved Tonight by Eagle Light Cherry and the schools 479 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: like that blasphemous We're going to fight the break of dawn. 480 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Save Tonight was like the controversial thing. You know, everyone 481 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: was like, it's got to be safe to eighth grade 482 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: graduations a whack as fuck. Just a backstory, Remember I 483 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: told you the person whose whole personality was the sugar 484 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: Ray video Fly was shot at my godmother's back. Here 485 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: she led the charge on making safe tonight grade graduation song. Wow, hero, 486 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: my god, I'm sorry I interrupted you the worm Now 487 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: it's okay. I was just going to ask them, like 488 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: Lulu thing, which was like, do you think her like 489 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: children are going to be as like curious about like 490 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: our pictures as we are about our parents and my parents, 491 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: And you're like, oh, ship got the like yeah right there, 492 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: Like dad had a six pack. Yeah, there wasn't bullshit 493 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: in the food. And also we're doing cocaine. Yeah, yeah, 494 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: cocaine was good. Was a diet. We called him pet pills. 495 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: It was math. I think so because I think we 496 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: always have a fascination with our parents. We only know 497 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: our parents as like these Disney creatures that we make 498 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: like perfect or whatever. Unless you know, however you're raised, 499 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: he might come to the realization they're not perfect. But 500 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: I think on some level every kid always wants to 501 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: kind of know, like what was life like before I 502 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: fucked it all up? According to what you say when 503 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: you and like the thought experiment of like if I 504 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: ran into my dad, he was my age should be tight? 505 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: Would I like him? Yeah? Would would he be tight? 506 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: Would he be tight? Would he not like? Would I 507 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: would my dad try to like flirt with me? Oh wow, 508 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: here's some Artie mcflish. Well, that is actually the thought 509 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: experiment that led to the writing of Back to the Future. 510 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: The writer like had the thought would I like, what 511 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: if I could go to high school with my dad? 512 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: Would I get in a way like would my mom 513 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: be like I'm actually feeling this dude, right, And I'm like, 514 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: you're my mom? But whoa incons recreated the thought process 515 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: that led to Back to the Future. Yeah, yeah, I 516 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: do wonder though, because there's going to be so much 517 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: more video and chi yeah, and like content that's been created, 518 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, like they'll be like I found your YouTube channel, Dad. 519 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, that's 520 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: still I thought YouTube died in the franchise Wards. I 521 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: could disappear tomorrow. My kids would have plenty of me 522 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: to yeah deal with. There's plenty algorithmsdcast. They could take 523 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of material from Cracked whatever this podcast and 524 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: create a yeah, like a machine learned version of you. Yeah, 525 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: like that Black Mirror episode. Good Black Mirror. Yeah, well 526 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: that was a company that was saying, like you could 527 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: take emails and social media stuff and then like create 528 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: a chatbot that would at least mimic your the way 529 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,959 Speaker 1: you spoke and like the ship so you wouldn't hear 530 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: a voice, but you could just log on and be like, 531 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: I uploaded my dad's emails to this, and now I 532 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: could talk to the email. That was how the black 533 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: Mirror your what's black Mirror? Um, it's a black superhero. 534 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: Oh the dude who got bit by the radioactive mirror. Uh? 535 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,959 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Nancy Pelosi, a black guy 536 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: who got bit black. Uh. Uh So there's a pharmaceutical 537 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 1: bill she's touting, uh that would help solve runaway drug pricing. Yeah. 538 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean, look, she's got a bill right on the surface, 539 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about things that will help people, that will 540 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: that will move of this society into a place where 541 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: we're not treating people as if their profits. I think 542 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: the Internet will get shut down when we're on the 543 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: way to having that moment. Anyway. Uh So, the deal is, 544 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: this is a new bill that's basically empowers the Health 545 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: and Human Services Secretary to negotiate lower drug prices for 546 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: what they say, at least twenty five prescription drugs each year, 547 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: and if the negotiation is unsuccessful, uh, like another office 548 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: would then be allowed to set a price closer to 549 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: the typical amount that is being charged in other countries, 550 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: because obviously, like we have the most lidy prices for 551 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals that you should go broke if you have asthma 552 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: or diabetes. So it sounds fine, but when you look 553 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: at who the funk the HHS secretary is, Alex Aser. 554 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: He is a former drug company exact and pharma lobbyist, 555 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: So what the funk is he going to do to 556 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: negotiate with his home He's like, yeah, bro, they sent 557 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: me to negotiate with y'all. What do you wanna do? 558 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: Raise a five? Let's do it. Um. So that's why 559 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: I've were like, what the funk is this bill? Like 560 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: it's really doesn't make sense. It's like just based on 561 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: the environment we're in right now, this would not help anybody. 562 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: And now, and I think it was in the New 563 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: Republic or No Mother Jones, um, this one opinion writer 564 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: was saying like, well, this could be something a little 565 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: more forward thinking now, you know, like we like on 566 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: the surfaces, you're like, this is a non deal, Like 567 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: this doesn't even make sense, why would this happen? But 568 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: what if a Democrat wins and it's in the White 569 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,320 Speaker 1: House and then the new administration would already have a 570 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: law in place that would allow the new HHS Secretary 571 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,800 Speaker 1: to renegotiate drug prices and you don't need a fucking 572 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: single Republican vote to do it. And then because right now, 573 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean, at worst prices won't change right with this 574 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: with this HHS secretary, or probably could go up um 575 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: and then at best maybe goes down a little. But 576 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: if this is already signed into law, then you have 577 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: a stealthy way to just sort of get your new 578 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: plans in motion once somebody takes a White House. So 579 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,760 Speaker 1: that's why some people like, is this nine D chess 580 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: or is this terrible fucking governance where you're just trying 581 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: to work with this government with this administration who probably 582 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: won't help anybody um and give them a win. But 583 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's interesting to sort of consider 584 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: like what is going on, like what what is really 585 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: the deal here with this bill? And I think GOP 586 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: Congress people are kind of onto it. Because they're not 587 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: exactly supporting the bill because I think they can see 588 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: it could be a set up move for a little 589 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: pharma checkmate. But you know, I don't have really I 590 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: don't really have much hope or faith when it comes 591 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: to set the drug prices. Pharmaceutical executives will just change 592 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: things for our good their own, with only themselves over 593 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: overseeing the process. They're like lower costs, Um, do you 594 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: know how much it costs to heat my marble floors? 595 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: Fuck off? I mean, this is a question that people 596 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: had about Nancy Pelosi when it comes to impede, like 597 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: whether she's slow rolling things because she knows that there's 598 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: going to be an impeachment, but she wants to like 599 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: draw out all the facts or comes from a place 600 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: a pair of privileges and completely out of touch of 601 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: the existential threat that this administration faces people who aren't 602 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: like her, or there's that too, I don't know. Yes, 603 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: being casual, it's like, oh, we can do it at 604 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 1: the ballot box, like really telling these black and brown people, 605 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: these LGBTQ people, these every everybody else who is looking 606 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: down the barrel of a gun constantly and be like yeah, 607 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: I can wait till November, right, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, 608 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: thank you, Maybe stay on until then. Yeah, And that's 609 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: thinking of like even now with like those ICEED attentions 610 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: ICEED detainees, or that that internal memo came out basically 611 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: them saying a lot of these depths were preventable Jesus, 612 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: and then that there were kids left advance for like 613 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: thirty nine hours and ship trying to reunite with their families, 614 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: Like ship is fucked up and we're trying to That's 615 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: why it's a On one hand, I wish she could 616 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: at least communicate that she understands the the existential threat 617 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: that's posed and be like, I'm not saying it's not 618 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: important what I need to do. I'm just trying to 619 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: let y'all know we have to get this is what 620 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm thinking. But then again, that's political strategicy that she 621 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: probably don't want to, you know, show her hand. But 622 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: I think, you know, the cries for impeachment are growing 623 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: louder and louder, and even like even in leadership, like 624 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: you have people basically coming up being like, yeah, I 625 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: think in peachment is inevitable, like James C said that, Yeah, yeah, 626 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean it needs to happen. We will see all right. Well, 627 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: speaking of and that election, the town halls with that 628 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: you know CNN and Fox News are doing with the 629 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: thirty different candidates, people who have thrown their hat in 630 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: the ring for president. Yeah, I mean they've been kind 631 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: of the main way that people have shown their face 632 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 1: to to the American public. And apparently people have not 633 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: seen anything that's really changed how they were thinking up 634 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: to that point in these because uh, a poll was 635 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: just released. The found that their approval ratings are like 636 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: how they're doing in the polls hasn't really changed at 637 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: all from before to after their town halls. Yeah, there's 638 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 1: not like a lot of people were like, oh man, yeah, 639 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: I get in front of a different audience. This will 640 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: probably help, This will help. And Washington Post did pretty 641 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: thorough analysis and they said the biggest impact for anybody 642 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 1: with polling numbers came from campaign announcements. Like that's when 643 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: they saw bumps or people that like very interested. A 644 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: town hall aired and they're like yeah, like okay, something's 645 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: on TV. It's the field is just so crowded and 646 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 1: like when it comes to like some of these uh, 647 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: not lesser, but lesser no, we'll call him lesser candidates. Uh. 648 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: People just if you're not fully engaged with that candidate, 649 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: like chances are you're not tuning in for because it's 650 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: there's too much noise right now. Um. But the people 651 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: who did kind of get bumps were people who were 652 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: like at the higher end, like the Biden sanders Is 653 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: of the world. They got bumps from there a little 654 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: bit like a town hall no no, no, I mean 655 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: I'm sorry more mostly Kamala Harris, Karma Harris and Bernie Sanders, um, 656 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 1: and so you know, those things had a slight effect, 657 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: but nothing where they'd be like, hey, that was a 658 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: good move you did that town hall because that helped here. 659 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: The only person who was actually an exception was pe Bud. 660 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: He kind of went because that first basically town hall 661 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: like made people be like, oh, who's this guy? Yeah, 662 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I kicked off the whole media wave. 663 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah it did. And his Twitter they showed there was 664 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: a graph of his Twitter interactions like the day after 665 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: it's a hockey stick like it goes. So that helped him. 666 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 1: But then there are other people like you know, Christian 667 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: Jilibrand she just had one and had like an interesting 668 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: moment on Fox, like dunking on Fox, and those are 669 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: like the moments you hope for. But we don't know. 670 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: There hasn't been pulling in the wake of that town hall, 671 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 1: so we don't know how much that helped her. But 672 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: I know she's still struggling to get like to qualify 673 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: for debates. Yeah, I mean, I don't Television is a 674 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: bad way to who find information. Like people aren't going 675 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: to tune in unless they just want to see more 676 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: of what they already like about the person. So I 677 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: get worried about people who only tune into TV to 678 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: find information to you know. Yeah, I think for this 679 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: to be a big swing, it would have to be 680 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: with people who like have tuned in or are deciding 681 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: to tune into like all twenty town halls and then 682 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: like make their decision. And that's just like the internet exists. 683 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: We can just go read articles about these people. We 684 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: don't need to, right. It's funny and also too, I 685 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: wonder if subconsciously, like when you turn on the TV, 686 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: like if you're already putting yourself and like I'm going 687 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: into a world of wonder and fantasy where like that 688 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: it works on you because normally just there for entertainment. 689 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: So then suddenly when you're looking at like images of 690 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: things that should move you, you're like, that's a weird show. Yeah, 691 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: you don't have to interact with it the way you 692 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: do with like the internet. Yeah, it's a fully passive medium. Yeah, yeah, totally, um, 693 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: but it at the same time, it can be hugely influential. 694 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: But I think it it's sort of the overall like 695 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: with Trump, the fact that he got like triple the 696 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: coverage of any other Republican candidate. You know, that's a 697 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: over time and the fact that it was just so overwhelming, 698 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: Like the the preponderance of TV coverage does influence people. Yeah, 699 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 1: I just feel like a single appearance is not gonna 700 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: swing things. So it's got to be frustrating to be 701 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: like number sixteen through number six through twenty. Yeah. Well 702 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: that's why I think maybe the debate stage will change things. 703 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,839 Speaker 1: You know, when you see people like call each other out. 704 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how deep. We're not quite 705 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: into mud mud time yet, but I have a feeling 706 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 1: when you start comparing people on stage side by side, 707 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: that will probably help people a little bit more to 708 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know, what actually when I put 709 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: this person next to this person, I don't like that 710 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: one someone. Mud time is the one day year that 711 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: you mud time. Guys, what a terrible time for beato 712 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: Arour to choose for this to be his mud time 713 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: on the debate stage. Could not get an answer in 714 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: poll numbers in the toilet, could not hear him through 715 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: his ship guilt, couldn't articulate one answer. What a bad choice? 716 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: And what would you do about the family separation? Okay, okay, 717 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: what about you, Bernie? Yeah, we we still are not 718 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: at the point in the two thousand and sixteen election 719 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: where Trump entered the race. So that's also worth keeping 720 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,479 Speaker 1: in mind that the winning candidate had not yet entered 721 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: the race in our last presidential election. All Right, we're 722 00:42:51,120 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: gonna take another quick break. We'll be right back, and 723 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: we're back, and so are punked and single out Baby, 724 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 1: single out, um Man, singled out. We were just thinking 725 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 1: about the fact that it was hosted by Chris Hardwick 726 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 1: and Jenny McCarthy. Yeah, yeah, just like two of the Yeah, 727 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: they're problematic figures. They're two people who probably wouldn't be 728 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: asked to host now, even for Nostalgia's sake, they be 729 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, but um I remember singled Out. I 730 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: loved it because I was only like twelve or some 731 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: ship at the time. I didn't know what was going on. Yeah, 732 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: and I was just like I like McCarthy, yeah, like 733 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: in conjunction with next or like same philosophy? What is it? 734 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: Oh much worse? It was a TV sound stage and 735 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: there would be one person and they would bring a 736 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: group of a hundred like extras out and then they 737 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 1: would like narrow it down by like fifty right. It 738 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: was almost like family, right, yeah, like do you like 739 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: salty or sweet? And like people who chose salty would 740 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: all be eliminated and then there would be like fifty 741 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 1: left and they'd keep like eliminating people and it was yeah, 742 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, it was like didn't care because you 743 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: couldn't see them, like it was always like then they 744 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,720 Speaker 1: would be like and this is the person you matched 745 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: up with, and they're like, oh sentient, maga hat thank you. Um, 746 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: but yeah, it's coming back, uh, just because you know, 747 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: I I heard the calls of my generation demanding singled 748 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: and punked, come back and get ready all because it's 749 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: coming back to one of the I mean the most 750 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: sought after platforms quite quick quick quick quick, be quieby 751 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: quite by quiet quigon gin like are these real? Word? 752 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: Like what? Ye oh? Man? Naming a startup is like 753 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 1: fucking god? Can you imagine people like the marketing people 754 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: who are like, like, you gotta call mark man. He 755 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: came up with Twitter, Quibi, Zonias, and Bell Vericos fans. 756 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, so this one named Vera he named them. 757 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, this one is going to be on queebie. 758 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: And but the thing is, it's like a mobile only 759 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: platform and each each shows you get twenty episodes that 760 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: are under ten minutes in length. Yes, so this is 761 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: filling a need that we were all begging for somebody 762 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: to come in and fill another video platform just for phone, 763 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: just for phone, this one just for phone and YouTube 764 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 1: link TV shows. We were all thinking that. We're all 765 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: thinking that because I'm a baby boomer, CEO is seven 766 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,839 Speaker 1: years behind of what's actually happening, and no one who 767 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: works for me tells me the truth because they don't 768 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: want to get fired. So I continue to tank my 769 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: multibillion dollar company into the ground. Um, but it's not 770 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: even live as of this recording. Uh to go to 771 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: the website. It's like it's a partnership between Jeffrey Katzenberg 772 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: and Meg Whitman. Jeffrey Kattenberg is a huge you know, 773 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: Hollywood mover and shaker and Meg Whitman. Who's that again? Oh? 774 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: She remember she ran for governor in California and I 775 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: had to organize a few different protests actions against her. 776 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,959 Speaker 1: Yeah she was. She was like, I was the CEO 777 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: of Hewlett Packard and now I'm here to fuck your 778 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,759 Speaker 1: state up. And yeah, I remember there was a thing 779 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 1: we did with a bunch of nurses, like a nurses association, 780 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: where everybody wore Meg Whitman wigs. Yeah. This wasn't even 781 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: for his job working in the lobbying industry. And this 782 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 1: is just Miles when he gets pissed at somebody, I 783 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: just put a wig on, put my wigs on, call 784 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: up my nurse gang, and we come before you. That's 785 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: why we're gonna be at the eye Hoop on sunset 786 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 1: this Sunday. Please join us for action against this terrible, 787 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: terrible company. Stop playing with us. Um. But yeah, the 788 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 1: thing that this reminds me of, because I was in 789 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: a was working on a content thing with a partnership 790 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: with Jeffrey Katzenberg and Verizon, and it was yeah, they 791 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: were like it was really bit and big on go ninety. 792 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: The ship did not go there was also it didn't 793 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: even go one. It didn't even go one. Uh to 794 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 1: the left Samsung's milk video. Do you remember that? Oh 795 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: my god, that's right. Yeah. So this happens like almost annually. 796 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: There's like a big, you know, boatload of just like 797 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: a cruise ship full of money pulls up to Los 798 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 1: Angeles and it's just like, we're gonna do a proprietary 799 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,520 Speaker 1: video platform and like you guys start making videos for it, 800 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 1: and then a bunch of talented creative people like make 801 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of content and it goes onto this platform 802 00:47:55,520 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: that immediately like goes under right, and it's like, if 803 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: you're not a Verizon customer, how the funk? No one 804 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: gives a funk about going ninety. So like they just 805 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: don't think of how these media environments even work, which 806 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 1: is why I go back to this idea of like 807 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 1: these super out of touch old dudes making deals. Me like, yeah, 808 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: this is the future, you know how I know I 809 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 1: thought of something, So yeah, that's my that's the hook, 810 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm hanging my ship on The Digi Day article says, 811 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: don't bet against Jeffrey Katzenberg. Okay, ba okay, bab alright, 812 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 1: bab If it ain't dream Works, I don't know what 813 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: is that? Quickly sounds too much like ku lude to me. 814 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,759 Speaker 1: Wow quibby, Yeah yeah, it sounds like quibble quibble, Yeah, quaalude. 815 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 1: I think you're just thinking of because you want quaaludes, 816 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: which is fine. Evil men in charge? Yeah yeah, right, 817 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: this whole thing too, even with punked, right, so they're saying. 818 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: The People magazine article about it says now that technology 819 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: can really augment reality the upcoming Punk three but promises 820 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: to pull the boldest pranks on the biggest stars in Hollywood. 821 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you're not pulling the boldest pranks on the 822 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: biggest stars in Hollywood for ten minutes on a mobile 823 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: sunk out of here. You think they're gonna be like, oh, yeah, 824 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 1: I want to be on your platforms an about But 825 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 1: what are they doing like when they're this that line, Now, 826 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: the technology can really augment reality, Like what are they 827 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: fucking thinking? Like faking people? Yeah, they're like, oh, I 828 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,279 Speaker 1: found this sex tape with your dad I was fucked up. 829 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: You were punk? Now, like your dad is such a 830 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:37,839 Speaker 1: creepy word. Yeah, why choose that one, ch Um, Well, 831 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: if you think that is going to bring about the 832 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 1: collapse of civilization, I've got a new report that says 833 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. That's not a good way to 834 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: talk about this story. Uh. So, a scientist and a 835 00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: former energy executive have drawn on a type of analysis 836 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: called system analysis and basically say that catastrophic consequences are 837 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: more likely than most people assume from climate change, and 838 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: they're unavoidable without an immediate World War two level mobilization 839 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: of all the forces within like all of the countries, uh, 840 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: starting yesterday, starting uh to alter the trajectory of like 841 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: the global economy. Um. But they're basically saying that all 842 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: these different things, you know, like half a degree more 843 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: and like there will be more storms, and like all 844 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: these things are gonna build on each other, and uh, 845 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, systems require a bunch of things to stay 846 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: stable for for them to operate properly, and so the 847 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: second you start like adding instability to those systems, it's 848 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 1: gonna get fucked up. Um. Yeah, yeah, See, if you 849 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 1: if you have boomer parents who don't get it, you'd like, Okay, 850 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: I think the environment is like your engine block. Okay, 851 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: Now what happens when even if if let's say a 852 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: fluid line transmission line goes out, how's the car working? 853 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: Oh it's pretty fucked up? Yeah, But to think about 854 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: that with the earth never mind. Just smoke your cigar 855 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: and where you keep listening to Jimmy Buffett fucking album? Um? Yeah, 856 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:27,399 Speaker 1: I uh yeah, So what I got like twenty years years? 857 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: Okay you should I'll be like sixties. Yeah, I'll be seventy. 858 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm good with you, quick steel. But you know, yeah, 859 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,719 Speaker 1: when you have kids, it's kind of it's like, oh, 860 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be just hitting the prime of your life. 861 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 1: That's civilization. That's what fox me up when I think 862 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,840 Speaker 1: about having a kid, because I'm like, everything I'm reading 863 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: says that child will just like look at a wall 864 00:51:52,239 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: of flame. Um. But you know, I was literally on 865 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:02,640 Speaker 1: the maagin of my seat, like what I was going 866 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: to say to put this home? Can feel better about it? Well? 867 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: I think honestly, you know, you'd hope at some level, right, 868 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: I feel like at least public sentiment is moving in 869 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: the right direct direction and slowly, you know, like the 870 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: UK just had like their longest streak of no coal 871 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: energy like that that they've ever had. There's all this 872 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: incremental ship but like, I don't know, man, Like the 873 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: way we've looked at how our modern society works, like 874 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: either something has to happen financially for people with the 875 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 1: sun up, or something so fucking horrific that they're gonna 876 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,799 Speaker 1: be like maybe we should do something. Because then that's 877 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 1: the problem with climate changes, that it doesn't have that 878 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: big horrific event that like everybody can mobilize around, like uh, 879 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, Nazism. It's just a gradual like boiling frog 880 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: scenario where things just get worse and worse. But uh, 881 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, this year's only a little bit worse than 882 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 1: last year. It's a lot where twenty years ago. But 883 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: we don't really think about that because I'm not true 884 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: that one summer in the World Cup, she was like 885 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: one nineteen one a couple of days. So that's why 886 00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: things are getting cooler because last summer when my a 887 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: C went out, she was only one fifteen oh, And 888 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: that's how I put it into perspective point. Sometimes I 889 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: wonder if like socialism can only happen if an apocalypse happens. 890 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, well again, you know, I think in America, America, 891 00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: of course, I mean we're the whole world. Yeah, um, 892 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: I mean we spend a lot of money to give 893 00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:38,240 Speaker 1: socialism and communism. Um and watch like Chernobyl and whatever. 894 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,879 Speaker 1: The Soviet Union was like corrupt, but all of those 895 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 1: people were like, yes, I will like go into this 896 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 1: nuclear reactor for my country. Right. Also, communism is not 897 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: socialism autocratic and dictatorial right right? Um, Like I was, 898 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,239 Speaker 1: I was listening to a podcast from five thirty eight 899 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: where they were talking about like whether you know there's 900 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: this uh perception that there is this huge right word 901 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 1: movement of uh you know, people going towards autocratic governments 902 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 1: around the world, and they were pointing out that there's 903 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 1: a lot of other examples where people are going towards 904 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: like green parties and like the who also tend to 905 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: be nationalist. But um, you know, and that makes sense 906 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 1: with this, so I could see things changing, people making 907 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,360 Speaker 1: more and more radical changes because things are getting so 908 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: dire with with climate change. But uh, that also opens 909 00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 1: things up to you know, things changing radically and people 910 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: deciding to make a huge right word swing and you 911 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: know then then all bets are off. Um, so yeah, 912 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: just something to think about. Warm, yeah, exactly, get you yeah, 913 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: get your get your vight pen store up on them things, man, 914 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: because you have a plan. Did you see that tweet 915 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,359 Speaker 1: from the dude who was like, how are they gonna 916 00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 1: funk with me? With this bug out bag? And it 917 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 1: was like forty guns and someone was like, well, you're 918 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: gonna die of thirst because there's no water there. It's 919 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: like all these guns and like knives and ship and 920 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: like not a single piece of food or drink knives, right, okay, um, 921 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about what a creepy place. YouTube 922 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: is the creepiest fucking ship, I mean, wigged me. Then 923 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,800 Speaker 1: we talked a lot about how you know, you'll go 924 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 1: on a video being like I just want to see 925 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: liberals owning Trump and suddenly that is a good impression 926 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: to me. Yeah yeah, okay um, and then it like 927 00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: you'll end up on some weird dark ship or how 928 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:53,840 Speaker 1: typically people just want to start off like watching debate 929 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 1: videos and suddenly you're getting red pilled on like the 930 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,520 Speaker 1: al right, YouTube world. So there was a study being 931 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: done when this Harvard researcher was like sort of looking 932 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: at the effects of YouTube, like specifically in Brazil, and 933 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,359 Speaker 1: there was this mom who, like her ten year old daughter, 934 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 1: had uploaded a video of of like this, her daughter, 935 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 1: ten year old and her friends like playing in like 936 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: out of pool or something. And her daughter was like, 937 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, the videos I got like two thousand 938 00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: views and she's like, Okay. Then like a couple days 939 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 1: I was like videos four hundred thousand views and she's like, 940 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: what the funk y'all are just playing? This is not 941 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,280 Speaker 1: even a long clip. This is not even good content, 942 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 1: is this? So come to find out, the people who 943 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 1: are watching it, we're not uh fans of home videos. Yeah, 944 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 1: this is not four in a thousand of your extended family. This. 945 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: These people were being like, we're getting there because of 946 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: the algorithm. Now, the whole thing is that from this 947 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: article says YouTube's automated recommendation system, which drives most of 948 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: the platforms billions of views by suggesting what users should 949 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: watch next, had begun showing the video to users who 950 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 1: watched other videos of prepubescent, partially clothed children. A team 951 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: of researchers has found so the algorithm is purely operating 952 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,680 Speaker 1: on like what you like? You like that, Here's more 953 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 1: of that, here's more of that. Okay, what can I 954 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,120 Speaker 1: tangently find this kind of like that? Okay, chew on that, 955 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,959 Speaker 1: and then you end up going to this dark ass place. 956 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 1: So the sometimes people aren't even look starting off watching 957 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: young children videos again, it's it says that a user 958 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,640 Speaker 1: who watches Arati videos might be recommended videos of women 959 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,960 Speaker 1: who became conspicuously younger, and then women who posed provocatively 960 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: in children's clothes. Eventually, some users might be presented with 961 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: videos of girls as young as five or six wearing 962 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: bathing suits or getting dressed or doing a split on 963 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: its own. Each video might be perfectly innocent, a home movie, say, 964 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: made by a child, any revealing frames or fleeting and 965 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 1: a peer accidental, but grouped together, their shared features become unmistakable. 966 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 1: So what they did, all these people are like, okay, 967 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,880 Speaker 1: we need to this can just be a coincidence. Let's 968 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: fucking do run experiment. They worked this algorithm thousands of 969 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: times to just understand what is going on, like how 970 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: are we getting from point A to point B? And 971 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 1: they just saw exactly how is functioning. When they and 972 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 1: this is again from the article quote. When they followed 973 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: recommendations on sexually themed videos, they noticed something they say 974 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 1: disturbed them. In many cases, the videos became more bizarre 975 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: or extreme and placed greater emphasis on youth. Videos of 976 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,720 Speaker 1: women discussing sex, for example, sometimes led to videos of 977 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 1: women in underwear or breastfeeding, sometimes mentioning their age nineteen eighteen, 978 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: even sixteen. Some women's solicited donations from sugar daddies or 979 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,959 Speaker 1: hinted at private videos. After a few clicks, some played 980 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: more overtly pre pubescence, uh posing in children's clothing from 981 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 1: their YouTube would suddenly begin recommending videos of young and 982 00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: partially clothed children than a near endless stream of them 983 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: drawn primarily from Latin America and Eastern Europe. So when 984 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: they ask YouTube for comment, this is what they said. 985 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: It's not clear to us that necessarily our recommendation engine 986 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: takes you in one direction or another when it comes 987 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: to kids. We just want to take a much more 988 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: conservative stance for what we recommend. That's it. So they 989 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 1: basically just shrugged, I don't know, No, I don't think 990 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: it's a problem. Is it's just this is the kind 991 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: of this is that runaway tech knowledges and they're like, hello, 992 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 1: you're serving Like a lot of the times too, there 993 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 1: could be kids put their social media handles and videos 994 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,960 Speaker 1: because they they're mimicking what they see influencers do. And 995 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,440 Speaker 1: then suddenly, now predators on the internet can contind you 996 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,919 Speaker 1: and begin grooming you. YouTube as a social media platform. Yeah, 997 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,880 Speaker 1: so this is like the the response was so lack luster. 998 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,760 Speaker 1: They've been like wow, all they said it was like, 999 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: we don't think it goes one way or another. I mean, 1000 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: look at all the people who say if people are 1001 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: getting radicalized through YouTube videos people, and then you come 1002 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: to this, it's like there is a rabbit hole effect 1003 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 1: that you're creating. And they also hate that term, like, oh, 1004 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:38,920 Speaker 1: we don't like to say rabbit hole. We'd like to 1005 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:44,720 Speaker 1: say bunny bunny, bunny pitting the floor that you go 1006 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: down and then when you come on the other side, 1007 00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 1: it's all fucked type. But yeah, yeah, I mean this 1008 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: is you know, it's impossible for them to truly address 1009 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: this while maintain profitability because it's not like it's not 1010 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: like there's a dude somewhere who's like tag this as 1011 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: like child barely clothed it's just reacting to people clicking 1012 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: on it from other videos and like seeing that pattern 1013 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:22,920 Speaker 1: and identifying it like just algorithmically. And if you needed 1014 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:29,120 Speaker 1: to have enough people like monitoring all these different nations 1015 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: and all these different videos, uh, you know, YouTube wouldn't 1016 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: be able to stay in business. So there, and I 1017 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: mean that's like same deal with Facebook, or they would 1018 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: be able to stay in business, but they wouldn't be 1019 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,800 Speaker 1: nearly as pro child views, like for kids using YouTube 1020 01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,840 Speaker 1: like innocently like actually kids just watching kids content that 1021 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 1: is a huge revenue stream. Oh yeah, so and a 1022 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: lot of experts like you could just do one thing, 1023 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,680 Speaker 1: just stop take children's content or anything with kids out 1024 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 1: of the algorithm. Just remove that is a thing it 1025 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,479 Speaker 1: can draw from to suggest videos. Then people aren't gonna 1026 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 1: be fucking going there. They're just gonna they'll cycle through 1027 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,439 Speaker 1: all the ship that you're leaving in there. But there's 1028 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 1: but the but YouTube is like, well there's such a 1029 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 1: big traffic driver. It would hurt creators who rely on clicks. 1030 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 1: It's just like they're only they're only thinking about their 1031 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,760 Speaker 1: own money. But meanwhile, you're you have like this soft 1032 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: weird softcore child pornographers or ship that people who are 1033 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 1: interested in this kind of fucked up ship or not 1034 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: that the videos themselves are sucked up, but looking at 1035 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,080 Speaker 1: videos that are not intended for anything other than like 1036 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: this memory or something to then sexualize these kids or whatever. 1037 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,320 Speaker 1: I think also to think like there's so many like 1038 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: prepubescent like kids who think that they're going to be 1039 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: YouTubers like as a career and like want to be influencers, 1040 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, it's just like golf feeding 1041 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 1: into the same creepy thing. Yeah, yeah, like that's actually 1042 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 1: a very common like what do you want to be 1043 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,600 Speaker 1: when you not like movie star or like best player 1044 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,320 Speaker 1: in the NBA, but like YouTube influencer because yeah, then 1045 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 1: you just live your life on YouTube and everybody loves you. 1046 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: Or even like talking to younger kids, like you know, 1047 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 1: like kids who are still in school and I'm like, 1048 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 1: what what do you want to do? And they're like, 1049 01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 1: I want to I want to be like a model, 1050 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: and then they put their time on Instagram Instagram model 1051 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, god damn, Like yeah, you know, then 1052 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: people don't do shit, right, But also like but that's 1053 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 1: that's who we that's who's exalted in their world of 1054 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: like these are the top people you know. For me, 1055 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,880 Speaker 1: it was Will Smith. It's telling also maybe like state 1056 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,240 Speaker 1: of the economy, or like these kids are like this 1057 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: is how I'm going to get a job, Like this 1058 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 1: is how I'm going to make money, and like feed myself. 1059 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: They're looking at broke millennials like we're the first generation. 1060 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: Be like, I have to commodify my being because I 1061 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,600 Speaker 1: have no job, I have no job prospects, so I 1062 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 1: must make myself the product. And then kids are looking 1063 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: up at that. That's the cool older sister, cool older whoever. 1064 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,439 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, modify your being. That's that's that's another 1065 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 1: path you can take. So if anything, if for parents 1066 01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: out there, be like make sure your kids aren't if 1067 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,760 Speaker 1: they're under eighteen, check out what they're uploading to YouTube. 1068 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: And also like if you really have videos you want 1069 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: to share, make them ship's private, and just distribute the 1070 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,880 Speaker 1: link because then at least that way, it's only people 1071 01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,960 Speaker 1: who you know who have the link are going to 1072 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 1: see it. But but this is definitely a potential risk 1073 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 1: because YouTube doesn't give a fuck whether whatever the content is. 1074 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: It could be extremism, it can be things like inappropriate 1075 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,480 Speaker 1: content with kids. It doesn't give a fuck. I mean, 1076 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: I wonder if the ship is going on on like 1077 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 1: Instagram too. I'm sure it is, right. I wonder probably 1078 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 1: through the explore page or something. I mean, that's all 1079 01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: algorithmically based, isn't that Like yeah, I'm sure, but I 1080 01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: guess if it doesn't seem like very smart the Instagram algorithm, 1081 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: because like I like the NBA video once and all 1082 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,520 Speaker 1: I get NBA videos. It just seems like it's kind 1083 01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: of basic maybe compared to the YouTube algorithm. Yeah. Yeah, 1084 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 1: it kind of harder to go down a whole in Instagram, 1085 01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: I think, right, yeah, yeah, Well the food ones I 1086 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 1: go scroll to. My eyes go dry when I see 1087 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,920 Speaker 1: like cheat melted cheese for whatever reason, I'm like, go on, 1088 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: I love videos or like they'll make a kiss and 1089 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: they just lifted up without the cheese, and I'm like, oh, 1090 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: ship reading and ship people who are just uploading that 1091 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: for home cooking, Miles, Jesus Christ, you're sick. And then 1092 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: I go to Tacose Elevanado. It's pretty good. Go there, cool, Melissa, 1093 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure of having you. Thanks for having me. 1094 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Um? You can find me 1095 01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 1: through the algorithm and also Ello Melissa, which is like 1096 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 1: Hello Melissa, but without the Melissa exactly from Pirates is 1097 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: it Puppet? Hello, Hello Puppet. Um. You can also listen 1098 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,840 Speaker 1: to my podcasts, Say More Podcasts with Olivia Gatwood streaming everywhere. 1099 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: What I'll Do, What I'll do on that podcast. Um, 1100 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 1: it's like a conversational podcast. We interview people and things 1101 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: that they're experts on. So nice. We interviewed Jamie about 1102 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: corporate feminism and like a doula, someone who worked in 1103 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 1: gay porn. Yeah nice? What's like all those people you 1104 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:31,480 Speaker 1: interviewed Jamie about all those subjects? She's I know, she's 1105 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:36,760 Speaker 1: so talented. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Um, 1106 01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: I really like this one. Let me see this is 1107 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,439 Speaker 1: Alex B. Tanner. Why is every single book title things 1108 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: we lost in the fire when we were girls and 1109 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 1: we didn't talk about all the things we never told 1110 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:54,120 Speaker 1: our mothers the fire? Uh? Miles, where can people find you? 1111 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: You can find me and follow me on Twitter and 1112 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray. Two tweets I like. One 1113 01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: is from Reductress and you know thematically ties into what 1114 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about this phone from reductor says how to 1115 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 1: get over baby fever by remembering the earth is dying. Yeah, 1116 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: and one more from the onion because it just felt 1117 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 1: I've been saying it over and over. It's it's an 1118 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: image of like this dude in a hoodie like talking 1119 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: to this woman who looks so disinterested, and it says, 1120 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: man directs full force of anecdote towards single person after 1121 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 1: the rest of group moves on to different topic. Which 1122 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 1: is a thing, man, when people be hitting you with 1123 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:40,000 Speaker 1: that fucking common deer the group talk. I do not 1124 01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 1: like the no, no, no, when you're just like this 1125 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 1: is more for you than anything. You're not trying to 1126 01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: convey any information, right, Like I get it. The dude 1127 01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,720 Speaker 1: to Chipotle loves you. Do you want me to just 1128 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 1: leave you in here? Sometimes though, you know, people who 1129 01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: do that, they can't actually register that you are talking 1130 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: shipped back to them. I've noticed when people get on 1131 01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: that ship with like yeah, I'm about they get this 1132 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 1: momentum going to go oh yeah, and I are like 1133 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: are you serious, and like they're like no, I am, 1134 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like wow. I wonder if those people become 1135 01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:16,440 Speaker 1: YouTubers just talking to themselves. That's why they call me 1136 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 1: black mirror. They're looking to me and they see whatever 1137 01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 1: they need see right there. Yeah. Uh Stella Donnelly stand 1138 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,960 Speaker 1: tweeted can someone write an article on millennials killing the 1139 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: doorbell industry by texting here? Um and damn and Martha 1140 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Kelly tweeted life hack for folding fitted sheets, stuff them 1141 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 1: into a closet and a messy ball. Honestly, who gives 1142 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 1: this ship? Yeah, so you put them ships out and 1143 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,919 Speaker 1: it's like wrinkly. But also who can see that because 1144 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: you got the top sheet and you've got the motherfucking's link. 1145 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. And then Pixelated Boat tweeted a screencap of 1146 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: an article title Leaked footage suggests a big Jeopardy shock 1147 01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 1: is on the way, and he said answers must now 1148 01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 1: begin with about a being about a boom. It's answer time, motherfucker. 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Apple. 1159 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,599 Speaker 1: This is from Shy Girls and the track is called Drain. 1160 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:48,519 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling drained, but the z is rocking okay, 1161 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,960 Speaker 1: and your boots will be knocking because it's got a 1162 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,599 Speaker 1: funky to it and a hip tank, a hip tang. Yeah, 1163 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: like from that guy. There's a dude who talking about 1164 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,760 Speaker 1: hot sauce and called the hip tang my boone daddy 1165 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:04,920 Speaker 1: something anyway, so on, um, but yeah, Drained by Shy Girls. 1166 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna write out on that. We will 1167 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:12,439 Speaker 1: be back tomorrow because it is the daily podcast by 1168 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 1: Change Jane Jane Jane Jane Jane. I don't make a 1169 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: house call later than the woman name seen it on 1170 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 1: full push. Just spit it out, not see it on 1171 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 1: the maightdis something's got them up in the just set 1172 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:45,120 Speaker 1: it off.