1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, girl, all about them 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: our comic girl Cheering for the drama Queens, Girl Fashion, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: but you'll tough, girl. You could sit with us Girl Drama, Queens, Drama, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, Drama, Queen's Drama, Queens. It's almost 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: like the school lunch table because we assume certain roles 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: in our friendship dynamic, and Joy has gotten so good 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: at just doing like the synopsis that my default is 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: to be like, I'm gonna sit back right now. I'm 11 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: gonna let Joy do this. I didn't realize I was 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: was I have I been railroading. I'm sorry, You're good 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: at it. And then what happens is so feels really 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: really good at ad reads and doing like the emotional work, 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: like the therapy work, and I'm the one that does. 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: But maybe that's true of every for the chandler being, Yeah, 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: we've just got our we've got our jobs. So whose 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: job is synopsis? I think you should. I think you 19 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: should step out of your comfort. I agree, I think 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: you gotta do it. Tell the people what they win 21 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: to watch you guys, you can cried this episode after 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: multiple time that the last few episodes have been real 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: stinkers and so I was not expecting this. Yeah, Season three, 24 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: episode twelve, I've Got Dreams to remember it was January 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: six when this aired, and the synopsis is everyone is 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: thinking of their future. After meeting with tree Hill Highs 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: guidance counselor, Brook finds out the real reason why Rachel 28 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: submitted her to Rogue Vogue. Keith is unfazed by Dan's 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 1: attempt to rattle him and asked Karen out on a date, 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: and then Nathan's failing the pressure of his basketball dreams, 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: while Lucas takes center court and gets the attention of 32 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: a college scout seriously to cover web. You know what 33 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: I love? I really liked this episode. Um. I liked 34 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: seeing people get what they need. Everybody's sort of gotten 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of what they needed. And even Brooke, 36 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: when you know, when you were feeling super vulnerable and 37 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: like scared of leaving high school and all that, like 38 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: getting this a having an adult listen to your fears 39 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: and being able to talk about those things to a 40 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: grown up who is a safe space, which is just awesome. 41 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: I have those fears validated and that yeah, it's scary. 42 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: Um Peyton getting oh and Brook also being able to 43 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: get what she needs with Rachel and still finding a 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: way to stick up for herself. Great Peyton getting what 45 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: she needs from Ellie. That beautiful. I mean, we'll, we'll, 46 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: we'll hit all these moments in depth. But you know, 47 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Haley and Nathan getting what they need with each other, 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: and the acknowledgement and um willingness to sacrifice for each 49 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: other and the bridge back to each other. Nathan getting 50 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: what he needs and learning how to step up and 51 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: be a leader and put the team first. Lucas getting 52 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: what he needs and recognizing that he's probably not going 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: to go to college for basketball, and it's it's in 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: the ball pardon the pun. He falls in his court 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: to pass the baton to Nathan. Um and Keith and 56 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: Karen getting what they need, and Dan gets a real 57 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: good taste of his own medicine. It's everybody gets what 58 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: they need. I love it. That's a great way to 59 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: put it. It is I am. At the end of 60 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: this episode, we were all like, who directed this? And 61 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: this director is a guy named Stewart Gilad. How do 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: we want to say his last name? That double L? 63 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: There's no you, So I think it's Canadian director. And 64 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: when I looked up his credits, I was like, I know, 65 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: I know this guy, joy you and I geeked out. 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: So it on this man because he directed like five 67 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: episodes of Avonlea. That's right, Because you guys noticed, like 68 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: we're obsessed with Anna green Gables, were obsessed with Adele, 69 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,679 Speaker 1: with that old series Avonlea, which is like a very 70 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Canadian old timey TV show that we loved as kids, 71 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: and we kept we kept kind of noticing in this 72 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: episode all these tiny little moments that meant so much. 73 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: And it's very reminiscent of a show like Avonlee where 74 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: you don't have like big, huge things going on. It 75 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: took place in like the eight hundreds, you know, the 76 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: little things are kind of the only thing that matter. 77 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: And so to have a director like that come in 78 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: and and make a meal out of those tender little moments, 79 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: that's well, that's it reminded me of why. That's why 80 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: I was saying when we were watching it, this is 81 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: what people fell in love with the is white people 82 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: came back to tree Hill every week because they were 83 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: so in love with It's the it's the meat in between. 84 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: It's the moments, the tiny moments, and especially you know 85 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: you said it a minute ago joy when people have 86 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: been struggling and they get what they need, it's a 87 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air. This whole episode felt like a 88 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air. And and this incoming director Stewart 89 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: made these gorgeous choices. The way that he interviewed all 90 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: of us in tight so that the guidance counselor, while 91 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: being a great comic relief and really jumping in and 92 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: being so good as a guest star, also would disappear 93 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: in the moments that our characters got really vulnerable, and 94 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: you got to see people share things that they've been 95 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: scared to say out loud. And as as the episode 96 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: went on, it got tighter and tighter and tighter, and 97 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: then we were all looking into camera. Oh, I love 98 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: that you noticed that I didn't see so I thought. 99 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: He made such brilliant directing choices. In addition to bringing 100 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: you literally into the character's world. When the Ravens were 101 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: winning the championship, all the SloMo We're so gorgeous. You 102 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: saw everyone have a moment of you know, holding their 103 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: breath in anticipation, and then joy and us over with 104 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: all the you know, the three of us with the 105 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: cheerleaders and mouth and Gigi you know, screaming, and Keith 106 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: and Karen, you know, a pom pomp went flying and 107 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: popcorn went by in and then they under the basket 108 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: when he's coming down from making that winning shot and 109 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: he yeah, he makes it, and everyone grabs him and 110 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: then he's just being carried and you thought he was 111 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: going to have a heart attack and he didn't like 112 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: every moment. Oh my god. It was so good and 113 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: we needed this. We needed it, We need the audience 114 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: needed it because it was the last, like I don't know, 115 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: four or five episode. It's been a little rocky, and 116 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: we've had so many guest directors and people coming in 117 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: and trying new styles and sometimes it's like kind of 118 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: takes away from the original, you know, meat of what 119 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: we're trying to do, and there's just so many kind 120 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: of fuzzy things that too that I feel like this 121 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: nailed it. The audience, we everybody in the show got 122 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: what they needed and the audience got what we needed. 123 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: We needed this moment of like rah rah cheer, Yes, 124 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: it's all going to work out, and the emotion. It 125 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: felt like a small town in this episode. You know, 126 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: so much of what our show builds into is like 127 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: there's always this kind of escalation into either big city 128 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: or richer kids, or you know, the more and more 129 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: and more and more and more mentality. And this was 130 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: a small town episode. You're back in this old timey 131 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: gym that we all fell in love with. Of that 132 00:07:56,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: gym when Keith picks Karen up for the date and 133 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: the three of us were like, like, you guys don't understand. 134 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: Wilmington's sidewalks at night have a very specific like sound 135 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: and smell and sense memory picture and which one of 136 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: you said it, You're like, I can smell it. I did, yeah, 137 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, And that and that really low hanging humidity. 138 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: You get this mixture of salt water and magnolia and 139 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: guardinia and old leaves because the seasons are changing and 140 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: it's like all mixed together. You can't tell if it's 141 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: the most beautiful smell or the strangest smell. There is 142 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: no place more romantic to me than the South. Take Paris, 143 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: you can have Paris. I want the South. It is 144 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 1: so romantic, you're you know, there's there's literally bugs flying 145 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: around that light up the sky like their little fairies 146 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: flying around everywhere. In the summer, it's it's unbelievable. And 147 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: the heat and then you know you're just like it's 148 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: that sexy. I love it, and I think, especially for 149 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: the three of us, that's where we came of age. 150 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, we talk about movies and television and these 151 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: classic coming of age stories. That's what One Tree Hill 152 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:30,119 Speaker 1: is and Wilmington's was our coming of age story together 153 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: and here we are. It makes me so emotional, Like 154 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: we say this all the time when we go out 155 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: and we speak like we're the love story, you guys, 156 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm having this deeply nostalgic like Stewart really 157 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: brought us back, deeply nostalgic feeling about us three coming 158 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: of age together on those sidewalks late at night. I 159 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: can around totally here the click of our boot heels, 160 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: like you know how there's like high heeled boots and 161 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: I can yeah, there's just um, there's an intimacy to 162 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: this small town field that we got in this episode. 163 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: I say it, Yeah, there's a quietness too to those 164 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: to those streets, even on the busy days, you know, 165 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: the riverwalk stuff and when we would be out even 166 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: when we were doing burning boat stuff, and or if 167 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: you just go out downtown you're walking around, there's something 168 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: that there's always around any corner. There's a there is 169 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: an intimacy and a quiet that you could find just 170 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: tucking into any small corner that you can't find in 171 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: New York City. You can't quite find it in l A. 172 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: There's always some I don't know, there's something. It's a 173 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: small town thing. It's really unique to small towns knowing 174 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: that you can find it and you hit it on 175 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: the on the head to Hillary the wonder, there's magic 176 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: in the air. There's wonder around every corner. It's not 177 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: all been blown out to where be Blore jaded and 178 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: it's like whatever, they're still magic. It still feels fun 179 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: well to have a smaller basketball crowd too, you know, 180 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: like that smaller gym really set a tone. And you 181 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: know we saw in the last episode and it was 182 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: so gross and the boys are cleaning it up and 183 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: it just kind of felt like a device and it 184 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh, we got kicked out of our normal 185 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: gym to film, so we're gonna go like take up 186 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: this story, having fewer extras, being able to really like 187 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: decorate the place, but have those decorations set against a 188 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: backdrop of decay. You know, when you grow up in 189 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: a small town that doesn't have resources and you see 190 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: that decay every day, and then you're having these conversations 191 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: with seventeen year old kids about what is your future 192 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: going to be. I really appreciated that not all of 193 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: our characters were like, oh, we're going to college, you know, yeah, 194 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: what can I afford it to be able to go 195 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: to college? And it's not a reality for every kid, 196 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: but on TV, like a lot of the other teen dramas, 197 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: it was just kind of a given, like we want 198 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: to go to college, not us. Yeah. Yeah, I think 199 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that really resonated. I don't 200 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: know with me and you know, growing up sort of 201 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: middle lower class, and and I think there's just so 202 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: many people that resonate with that sense of not everything 203 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: is secure, not everything is certain out there, and we're 204 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: all just kind of struggling by Um. That's pretty cool, Yeah, 205 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: And I think it is nice to see everyone not 206 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: be so confident all the time. You know, we had 207 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot about how there was this sort of over 208 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: indexing on our show of success. Everybody became something huge. Yeah, 209 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: it's it's really nice to see people just say, look, 210 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. I loved, you know, 211 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: especially for a character like Brooke, who you know, was 212 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: one of the quote unquote rich kids at school. I 213 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: loved seeing behind the curtain. Thank you. I'm like, wait, 214 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: I should learn to take a compliment with we're watching um. 215 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, I loved being able to throw her peek 216 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: behind the curtain and say, this person who looks like 217 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: they have it all together, is alone, has no one 218 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: to talk to, doesn't know if she's good at anything, 219 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: doesn't know if she's going to end up anywhere. You know, 220 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: whether it's outward projection or an observer's expectation or your 221 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: own fear, nobody really knows what's accurate. And so watching 222 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: Peyton say I don't know if I'm going to go 223 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: to school, watching Hayley say, well, what matters more to 224 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: me my individual dreams or or my partnership. Having Brooke 225 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: be afraid that she may not amount to anything. Once 226 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: she leaves high school. These were all wind was into 227 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: these people and and it feels more real. And yeah, Joy, 228 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: you're right when you think about how you grew up, 229 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: Like my mom went to trade school, she was a 230 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: dental hygienist. Like you know, there was there wasn't a 231 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: degree available to everyone, even a generation behind ours. And 232 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: the reality is there wasn't a degree available to and 233 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: everyone in our generation, and there certainly isn't a degree 234 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: available to everybody now. And I appreciate the representation. Yeah, well, 235 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: and that's that's where I was going with it, is 236 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: that Brooke represents a demographic that does exist. There's not 237 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: there's no shame in being wealthy, There's no shame in 238 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: growing up that way. That's that's that is a demographic 239 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: of people who grew up that way. But it doesn't 240 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: take away the humanity and the things that we struggle with. 241 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I love Brooke representing, is that she's 242 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: she's still just just a girl standing in front of 243 00:14:51,760 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: a high school wondering, I'm just a girl standing in 244 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: front of my college counselor asking is anyone ever gonna 245 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: love me? In the most fabulous little argyle sweater. This 246 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: episode was so really two thousands were they were redeemable. Okay, 247 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: they were some cute stuff. All the kids are wearing 248 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: it now. I mean now it's ironic, but they're still 249 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: wearing it. God Bless Latter Clueless made an impact not 250 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: just on us, but on generations to come. Thank you, 251 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Alicia's that's right. I love it. I love it so much. 252 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: But like you, you mentioned our guest actress Donna Cooper, 253 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: who played the school counselor what like a huge job. 254 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: You know she's got she's got a scaffold this entire 255 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: storyline and also be someone trustworthy in the course of 256 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: like one episode. Why we didn't have her all the time? 257 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: Who knows? I don't know, who knows. Might have been nice, 258 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: God Well, to see Brooke open up to someone, to 259 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: see an adult that's able to get in there with 260 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: the kids in a meaningful way. She would have been 261 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: a great series regular. Actually, it would have been so 262 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: nice to say. I mean, I guess Whitey sort of 263 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: served that purpose, but he's not. He's so much older 264 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: than us, and you know, I love the wisdom that 265 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: he offers. But also there's there's an element of just 266 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: there's always going to be a miss a Mr misconnection, 267 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: missconnection there with someone with that big of an age difference, 268 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: and we would have been really nice. She was great. 269 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the idea that these meetings were such a 270 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: big deal. Do you guys remember your counselor meetings? Oh yeah, 271 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: you do? Do you you don't remember? It wasn't a 272 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: big deal. Well, I think I was one of those 273 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: like turbo kids that had it so planned out. I 274 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: was just like, I don't need you to ask me 275 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: a questions, Like I'm getting out of here, I'm going 276 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: to New York. I've been saying it since I was eleven, 277 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 1: Like we don't need to talk about it. I got it. 278 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: And so this kind of idea that like, oh, we're 279 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 1: going to have these big meetings with the counselor. It 280 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: was so you're telling me it's real. Yeah, oh yeah, 281 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it happens. I mean I definitely had one. 282 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: I was going to go to RADA, the Royal Academy 283 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: of Dramatic Arts. I was like, that was my dream 284 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: school for ever. I was I'm getting the hell out 285 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: of here and going to London. That was my plan 286 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: years America. This is stupid, that's right. Yeah, I felt 287 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: that way for sure. I just wanted to get to London. 288 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: It's all I ever wanted to do. Was like, I'm 289 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: want to go do theater and British TV and like 290 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: costume dramas and I don't care about anything else. And 291 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 1: then uh so I had. I had begun filling out 292 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: my application. I was like halfway through, and I've been 293 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: talking with my guidance counselor about it. And my grades 294 00:17:56,520 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: weren't awesome, but I'm also an actor, so I think 295 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: they you know, and I had like a long history 296 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: of work behind me, and so I felt like, yeah, yeah, exactly. 297 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: My grades in history and English were really good. They 298 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: didn't Rodda probably doesn't care about math, so thank god, 299 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: so I got you know, I got really close, and 300 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: I was I was ready to submit, and then um 301 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: I got the Guiding Light and it was a two 302 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: year series regular job, and I knew I obviously couldn't 303 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: do both, and um so I just chose the I 304 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: chose the job. I was like, well, if I could 305 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: start working straight out of school, why don't I just 306 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: do that? And then if I if that job ends 307 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: and I don't get more work. Well, then I'll go 308 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: to school because Rod is still going to be there. Um. 309 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: But then, you know, I kept working, so my dream 310 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: school still sitting out there. Maybe I'll go when I'm 311 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: like sixty guys, okay saying Sophia, can I do that? 312 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: You guys? I love this because Hill similarly to you, 313 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: I had a plan in high school and I I 314 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: was doing all this crazy community service work my senior 315 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: in high school and every I just had no free time. 316 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: That was like when I probably started over scheduling myself 317 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: and I'm still trying to unlearn that and and I 318 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: so I really had a plan and it was like 319 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing on you know, every day 320 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: until the end of the year. And UM, USC was 321 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: my top choice because I knew I wanted to be 322 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: in school but also be acting. And the counselor meeting 323 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: that was the most impactful for me, which was weirdly 324 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: mirrored in this episode. I went to USC for the 325 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 1: b FA Theater program. You know, I did the audition 326 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: and it's like a really big deal, You're coming to 327 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: get a Bachelor of Fine Arts and UM and they 328 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: accept fourteen students on audition per year and blah, and 329 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: I got there and I was like, I hate this. Um. 330 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: All we do all day is like sit around in 331 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: an empty black box theater and we do scenes and 332 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: then people who, well, why did you make that choice? 333 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: And I was like, aren't you supposed to not like 334 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: the actors self conscious about their choices, rather than perhaps 335 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: like teaching you to be malleable, to be able to 336 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: make dramatically different choices ever more quickly, like maybe that 337 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: maybe maybe plan B should be the plan. And I 338 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: was like, I don't think I like this. And I 339 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: transferred into the journalism school. So I was doing a 340 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: theater minor and I was doing a major in journalism, 341 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: and I was like this it was resonating for me. 342 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: It was telling real stories about real people and their 343 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: real life experiences, and that was where you know, plays, 344 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: television scripts, film scripts and and being a good truthful 345 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: actor met For me, it was in the balance of 346 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: those classes. And I was gearing up for my senior 347 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: year at USC. I was the philanthropy chair, I was 348 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: doing all these things. Everything felt like a big deal, 349 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: very much like Brooke Davis being like, it's my last 350 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: chance to take my team to Nationals. What am I 351 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: gonna do, and I booked and I was supposed to 352 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 1: test for one trial. I booked this you know, the 353 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: callback happened, and then Joy we saw each other and 354 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 1: then we're going in for the final test. And I 355 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: knew that if I signed the test deal and I 356 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: booked it, I'd have to move in two weeks. And 357 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: I was like, but it is my senior year in college. 358 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: And I went to see my advisor in USC Annenberg 359 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: School of Journalism, Annie Matine. Shout out to Annie, sweet Annie, 360 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: this like lovely woman who had never heard raise her 361 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: voice or swear at anyone. When I explained to her 362 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: the conundrum I was having of like, this is my 363 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: one senior year in college of my life. Looked at 364 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: me and went, are you out of your mind? And 365 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: I was like what? And she just said, you you've 366 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: been working for years for this. You can always come 367 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: back to college. You will not always get this opportunity. 368 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,719 Speaker 1: So go, oh, God bless Annie. We got God bless Annie. Right. 369 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: And so I thought to myself, much like you did. 370 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what these shows about high school? 371 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: How long could they last to? Maybe four years? I'll go, 372 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: I'll go, and then I'll go do my senior year 373 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: in college. And then I turned thirty right after we wrapped, 374 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't think I'm ever going back. 375 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: I want to, but because is that they really want to? 376 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: We've only got to go to college of time, let's 377 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: go where we're watching episodes of this show, like eventually 378 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: in a couple of years will run out of One 379 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 1: Tree Hill episodes. Then do we just go to college together? 380 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: Since we didn't do a podcast? Is there any other answer? 381 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: But yes, yeah, drama to go to college. Okay, By 382 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: the way, you guys won't be surprised. But I had 383 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: my favorite professor from the USC in a Berg School 384 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: of Journalism, Professor Christopher smith Uh come on as a 385 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: guest on Work in Progress and I interviewed him about 386 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: you know, what he remembered and how he how he 387 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: teaches kids to analyze the world around them and all 388 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: person and I said, damn. I was like Professor Smith, 389 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: I like, I really I want to come back, like 390 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: we do a specialized final year of study, Like would 391 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: you be my my sponsored professor? And he was like 392 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: absolutely so if you guys want to go to USC, 393 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: we can go. Kim Kardashi and can go to law 394 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: school and pass the bar. Sure z, Yeah we can. 395 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate that about she made school accessible again, you know, 396 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: like in your thirties and forties. I love it. I'm 397 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: all for us going to school because I I liked learning. 398 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: I liked that classroom environment. I think a lot of 399 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: what we do feels like the kinds of debates and 400 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: analysis that we were doing just about, like not teen drama, 401 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: like we we used to talk about the Ming Dynasty 402 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,160 Speaker 1: and the way we talk about Tree Hill. Um. Yeah. Yeah, 403 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: I think we go to school and I still feel 404 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: the year that our characters felt in this episode. You guys, 405 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: what if we go to school and then we run 406 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: a radio show on campus. Yeah, and then we'll put 407 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: on a benefit show and we'll make Joy Slash Hailey perform. 408 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: We'll be like Frasier when he like started getting punked 409 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: by college kids because he was on the radio at 410 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: the college. You guys didn't see that episode. Never moving 411 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: on to Dan's short tie, Oh my god, Hey, do 412 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: you know why this episode felt so good because it's 413 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: like the first time Dan's failing. Yes, yeah, that's another 414 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: that's a great point. Yeah, And the first year we've 415 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: seen him have a feeling. In many episodes they made 416 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: him and I know we talked about this last week. 417 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: They made him like such a mustache twirler lan. And 418 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: in this episode he is running into who evidence of 419 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: his own failures, evidence of how other people are loved 420 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: in ways he isn't. He's suffering the accountability of his cruelty, 421 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 1: and it is a relief. We don't want the bad 422 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: guys to win. As I was just gonna say, it's like, 423 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: this is why we watch stories like I've been watching 424 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: the Harry Potter Marathon with Maria, like this is why, 425 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: because we we need to know that the good guys 426 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: come out on top at some point. And you know, 427 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: and uh, and I love it. I love seeing Dan. 428 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: It's not that I love seeing him suffer. I love 429 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: seeing this element of justice happen where the and and 430 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: people living in a space of freedom, like what Karen 431 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: and Keith are doing. It's like, you can't get me down, man, 432 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: no matter what you do to me. You can. You 433 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: can keep trying, but I'm always going to get back up. 434 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: Craig Scheffer standing m v P of this episode. My God, 435 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: the fun he's having when he's in holding at the jail, 436 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: out of here. I didn't do to that guy. Meanwhile 437 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: the crime, I'm like, lawyer, could you just if you 438 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: could start a stop talking, don't don't ever talk to 439 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: the cops. Don't ever talk to the cops. But the 440 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: way he triggers Dan to come in and show who 441 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: he really is, that he has been the violent one 442 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: all these beats, let's leave. Yeah, no reason to bring 443 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: mom into it, Danny. Incredible, But that moment at the 444 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: end to get back to start joy, Greg Cheffer standing 445 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: in the rain looking like an old timey movie star, 446 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: just with like grown up James Dean energy, saying totally 447 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: isn't your life Danny? Oh yeah, I was like, I 448 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: want a movie of this. I want more of this episode. 449 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I need, I need more of these two. It was gorgeous. 450 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: He looks good in the rain. I think Craig Shepherds 451 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: just always carry around rain above him. Just you know what, 452 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: that opportunity right there where Keith approached Dan's car could 453 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: have been a very catty line. It could have been 454 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: something really snarky. Well he did say, I hope you 455 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: have your pants on? Well he did, But it's not 456 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: your life, Danny, is an admonishment that is gentle and 457 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: sad and kind of cautionary, you know, because for how 458 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: many years did Keith look in on Karen and Lucas 459 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: and Dan say like, it's not your life that was 460 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: that's my kid, that's my ex you know. Um yeah, 461 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: that's right. Keith could have gone full at all, and 462 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: instead he was really gentle, just like, drive away, this 463 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: is not yours. Um. After Dan has just created such havoc. 464 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: You know what I thought was so wise about it, 465 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: not just the way it was written. There are things 466 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: Craig did in that first scene in the jail he 467 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: goes police, oh, like his choices. And what you're making 468 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: me realize is you talk about the way the scene happened. 469 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: Is Craig made a choice. You could punch someone with 470 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: that or you could like slowly gut them with it. 471 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: And he slowly and gently gutted Dan with that, saying 472 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: I know how much you hate your life. Yeah, it's 473 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: all your fault. This life is mine and look around you, man, 474 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: like it cuts right to the center because of all 475 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: of us, but especially if a guy like Dan, a narcissist, 476 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: a violent narcissist. Its spending time sitting in his car 477 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: outside of you know this cafe, was sitting and watching 478 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: his Scott is a stalker. Isn't at the high school. 479 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: He's my business either in her kitchen or in her restaurant. 480 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: But it's it's just such an interesting way to watch 481 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: essentially a duel, and and Keith doesn't do some big 482 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: violent sword move. He just gets him right in the 483 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: center of his heart and it's quick and it's like 484 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: it's like Dan never sees it coming. I don't know 485 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: why this became a fencing movie to me all of 486 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: a sudden, Yes, I would watch the hell out of 487 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: these two doing more of this. You can, I think 488 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: if you go see Berserker, the movie that they shot 489 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: in South Africa. And then okay, wait when we're all together, 490 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: when we're all together in September and we have a 491 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: summer party, that's what we have to Also, what I 492 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: liked is that Dan makes such a big deal out 493 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: of I have delivered this scout to you, Nathan. I 494 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: have delivered this scout and I've done it out of control, 495 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: and I've done it out of ego, and it's the 496 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: me show Scouts here because of Dan Scott. And then 497 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: in reality, what ends up happening is his brother, the 498 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: kid he shot on for years, and the person who 499 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: he handed the spotlight over to in this game is 500 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: the person that hand delivers the scout to Nathan. It 501 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: comes from a place of love and a place out 502 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: of mutual respect, out of this like ego driven place, 503 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: and Dan just has to stand back and watch it. 504 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: He used to watch Lucas deliver on a silver platter 505 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: the meal that he thought he cooked, you know, and 506 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: it's just white. He coming through with the good parenting 507 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: of refusing to allow Nathan to play, even though he 508 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: knew the scout was there, and even though it was 509 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: those are the moments, as parents were, it's really hard 510 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: to do the right thing. That iPad all the time, 511 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: and we have to say no, that's right. There's moments 512 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: in life when you just have to say no, or 513 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: you just have to like put your foot down and say, 514 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is the consequence for whatever you did 515 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: a B or C. I know it's prom but you're 516 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,239 Speaker 1: grounded because blah blah blah, and I'm sorry, I know 517 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: this really sucks, but you did do this. And but 518 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: but people have to learn that there's consequences for their 519 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: actions in English. Joy, I just gotta see in English. 520 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how because this child is like my child, 521 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: you know. Oh, he's so smart. Get to see in English. 522 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: And I say, you have to read books this summer. 523 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: And it's like I've taken away that I've had. He 524 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: has to read a book. He's devastated. He's Nathan Scott 525 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: on that bench. Okay. After we got done taping yesterday, 526 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: I go and I'm sitting at my desk and my 527 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: son comes into my office devastated, blubbering, blubbering because he 528 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: has finished of Mice and Men, the book I assigned 529 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: to him. And it was the most rewarding moment ever 530 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: because he's like, this book is crazy and experiences here 531 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: the joy of watching those Scott brothers. The Yeah, I 532 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: have watched the click happen. It's the class and you 533 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: can't do everything for them. You just have to set 534 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: it up, like here's the parameters. I'm not in control 535 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: of what happens, but here's here's the parameters. And then 536 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: they showed up. They showed up for each other. It's good. 537 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: It's good. You've got to go through the pain before 538 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: you can appreciate the click. Well, I think there's something 539 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: so inspiring to thinking about the ways in which we 540 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: all had to learn to be who we've really truly 541 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: feel like we are, to be a little less afraid, 542 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: to be a little less conformist, you know, a little 543 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: less um blindly trusting of authority even and then too, 544 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, to watch all of our friends kind of 545 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: raising this next generation. I'm the most impressed watching my friends, 546 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: watching what you both are talking about in this moment. 547 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: And and so many of the women in our lives 548 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: be parents when they exemplify Oh no, I can't make 549 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: my kid do anything, and I can't have expectations about 550 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: who they are. What I can give them is rules 551 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: and structure tools to be the best versions of themselves 552 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: as they grow into who they are, because they they're 553 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: their own people. And it's so cool to watch because 554 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: you you see the click over and over again, you 555 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: see it work, and you go, damn, I picked really 556 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: good friends, they're really good parents. You just have to 557 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: do the hard thing. That's that's what's hard, is doing 558 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: the hard thing. But there's always a payoff, you know, well, 559 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: and we see it with Lucas and Karen in this episode, 560 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: which is really nice because you know, she gave him 561 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: the speech last episode about him spending the night at 562 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: Brooks and she's like, look, you're almost eighteen. You're gonna 563 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: be gone next year. I can't can't hover, but I 564 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: really need you to make smart choices, and you've got 565 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: to attempt your heart as well as other stuff. And 566 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: for him in this episode to sit down and be like, Okay, 567 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: we're going on a date with Keith. You beautiful. You know, 568 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: like that kind of relationship is it's something you fight 569 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: hard for because it would have been really easy for 570 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: Karen to pawn him off on camps and like you know, 571 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: and and doing the things that we've talked about as parents, 572 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: Like it'd be so easy for me just to hand 573 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: off responsibility to somebody else. Instead, I'm going to have 574 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: those difficult conversations with you, and I'm going to listen 575 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: to you, which is oftentimes the hardest part about parenting. 576 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: The listening. Yeah, just listening and not offering advice unless 577 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: they ask. I mean, sometimes you have to speak up, 578 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: but like a lot of times it's just the listening. Like, wow, 579 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: I mean I have ideas about that. If you ever 580 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: want to hear my opinion, but I'm you know, I 581 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: hear you. I'm sorry you have to go through that. 582 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: That's rough. And then you're like text each other and 583 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: we're like, is this the right thing to do? You're like, 584 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: I actually know the answer and I've been there, but 585 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: you don't want to hear it because you don't think 586 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: I know anything. And it's me to see a mother's 587 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: son relationship modeled in this like lovely, healthy way is 588 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: it makes me hopeful. Maybe this is why grown ups 589 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: liked our show, because they were like, I guess hope 590 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: this is what would happened. I missed Dev in this episode. 591 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 1: I would have liked to see some moments of her 592 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: like trying to figure some stuff out too, but I 593 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: know they only had so much time. But that would 594 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: have been what would Dev have been doing in this 595 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: episode if she had been in it, I mean, should 596 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: have been the third wheel on the Karen Keith date. 597 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: That's probably why they kept around, just to keep that tidy, 598 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: because you know, um, maybe she'd have been in therapy, 599 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 1: she's talking to her own guidance counselor that would have 600 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: been it would be really nice, do you our grown 601 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: ups ever go to therapy, any of the grown ups 602 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: in the show. I'm trying to think that would have 603 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: been a kind of I like that we did this 604 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: as a time capsule episode because it was like the 605 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: time capsule confessional episode, you know, but it would have 606 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: been really fun to do the same thing with like 607 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: the kids in the guidance Counselor's office and all the 608 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: adults in therapy right honestly, Like you know, Jeff went 609 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: and did a rewatch of the Sopranos uh last like 610 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. I think everybody did um and watching 611 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: that show back as an adult with Tony Soprano in 612 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: the therapist office hit very differently than when that show 613 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 1: aired when we were eighteen nineteen years old, and it 614 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: was sort of kitchy back then. It was just like 615 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: Lobster goes to therapy, watching this grown man try to 616 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: game his therapist and like work around it and then 617 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: then actually maybe trying to do some real work. It 618 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: was very interesting, and it would have been lovely to 619 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: have that device in our show with Dan Scott having 620 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: an outlet like therapy like Scott and Therapy is a 621 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: whole spinoff friends, ye oh, would not be that man's therapist. 622 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: But how different would everything have been if he had 623 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: had a Lorraine Broco to be like not today? Mr. 624 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: How great was Cheryl in this episode Sherley, Oh my gosh, 625 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: I just she made me so emotional walk it was 626 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: that her choice just to be crying at the table, 627 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: because what was that about scripted? I don't think. I 628 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: think I think Peyton asks her, are you sure you're okay? Oh? Yeah? 629 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: So maybe it was. And there's something really lovely about 630 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: the fact that we didn't get into it, do you 631 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Sometimes we talk stuff today and 632 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: the idea that this grown up is that the dining 633 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: room table cry and a kid is just so in 634 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,760 Speaker 1: her own bubble that she's like, I mean, I guess 635 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: if you say you're okay, you're okay. You know, I 636 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't have pushed a grown up when I was a kid. 637 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: Well when it played, because she was emotional about being 638 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: proud of you, and it seems like that's genuinely where 639 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: it was mostly coming from. She's so good and I 640 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: think she's so earnest in it, and all the stuff 641 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: she says is just everything I ever want to grown 642 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: up to say to me, And so it's so hard 643 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: to watch because I'm just like, because I know it's 644 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: going to get taken away, and I want it for 645 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: Payton and I want it for myself, and I'm just like, 646 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: oh no, it really is the worst band aid that's 647 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: ever been ripped off professionally to have fairly in our 648 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: orbit and then have her go away because you're just like, 649 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: what why please? No, don't not that one. No. But 650 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: but she's so cool in the episode. You know, Peyton's 651 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: talking to her about her girlfriend's sex life. You know, 652 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: what a cool relationship. I hope that I can talk 653 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: to my daughter in that way where it's like friends 654 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: with benefit you like, you can, Brandon, that's whatever you want. 655 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: But that's just slip around. Yeah, that's not that's not 656 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 1: really gonna work for you. Yeah. And then she's got 657 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: the where with all to like be like, okay, so 658 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: who are used going on with? And you know what's 659 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: what's kind of interesting is that Peyton gives such a 660 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: vague answer that we don't know if she's talking about 661 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: Jake or she's talking about Lucas, because she says he 662 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: was my friend and there were benefits and now he's 663 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: gone and we don't really know who she's talking about. 664 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: We we assume she's talking about Jake. But in her 665 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 1: storyline in the first three seasons of Peyton, the person 666 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: who is consistently her friend in tough moments is Lucas. Yeah. Um, 667 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: And so it's again one of these little tiny bread crumbs. 668 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: We had one either in the last episode or two 669 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: episodes ago where Peyton subconscious was like, should Lucas be 670 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: with you and not Brooke? This is another one of 671 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: those bread crumbs where it's like, yeah, I was wondering 672 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: the same thing. I was like, is she talking about 673 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: Jake or is she talking about Lucas? She didn't say 674 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: a name. I didn't heard Jake, but but not like 675 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: like what Ellie's saying, if you can find your best 676 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: friend who is also your lover, isn't that the fairy tale? Yeah? 677 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: That's it? Yeah, I mean kind of can Ellie man 678 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: just coming in with the one two? She just knows 679 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: what's up every time, and you know it's interesting too, 680 00:41:54,600 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: Like there have been so many movies, shows, books made, 681 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: and read and experience that revolve around the idea of 682 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: what you learn before you die, like what what you 683 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 1: kind of are able to put in perspective when you 684 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, when people find out they have terminal illnesses. 685 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 1: And Ellie really comes in like that sort of oracle. 686 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: She sees all of it. She's got all the perspective, 687 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: you know. She she's able to kind of zoom in 688 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: and get really sharp in all these lessons. And I 689 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: would love to know from the writers if some of 690 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: that was meant to mirror, you know, the stories we've 691 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: all read about you know, this is what I learned 692 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,959 Speaker 1: being a hospice nurse, this is what I learned having 693 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: terminal cancer, Like we've all read those, right, And I 694 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: really get that kind of energy from her and from 695 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: the way she talks to you, and I think it's 696 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,640 Speaker 1: so beautiful, and I would I would just love to 697 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: know how intentional that was, you know, I want to 698 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: be like Ellie, Like she's so frank. Like I loved 699 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: that cut where it's what were you doing after high school? 700 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: And it cuts to Ellie and she goes drugs because 701 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: I think that there's a way to be a parent 702 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: that is disarming with your kids. Like we live, you know, 703 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: in New York, and we go into the city all 704 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,879 Speaker 1: the time, and obviously We're in Washington Square Park all 705 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: the time, and there's just like drugs everywhere. Everybody's smoking weed, 706 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: everybody's like skateboarding. It's an eyeful for a twelve year 707 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,840 Speaker 1: old boy. And so you know, it's like I want 708 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: to I would like to imagine that I am more 709 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: of an Ellie parent, where I'm just like, what do 710 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: you want to know? Like, let's talk you, Let's be 711 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: real safe about stuff, Let's be smart about stuff. Um. 712 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: I try and do that too. You gotta just level 713 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,359 Speaker 1: with them. Man, they're not dumb, yeah for sure. Well, 714 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: and they're hearing it at school. Yea, better they hear 715 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: it from us the cool damn right. I don't think 716 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,840 Speaker 1: it's so important to disarm some of that for your kids. 717 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: Like I know how effective that was for me. You know, 718 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: my mom talking to me about being in her early 719 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: twenties in Manhattan and going to Studio fifty four and 720 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: all the stuff she saw. Yeah, Marine does not seem 721 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: like the kind of person that hides much. She's just like, yeah, 722 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, my we're attired. Is so fun. My 723 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: mom came into my house, you guys a couple of 724 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I was like I'm thirsty and opened 725 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: the fridge and grabbed a can. And I don't even 726 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 1: know where these came from. Jenny. Y'all know Jenny and 727 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: one of my best friends. Probably many of you listening 728 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: at home, No, Jenny, and Jenny loves a can, so 729 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: I think we just have them here. But it's like that, 730 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: like C A A, and I think they're like a 731 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: they're like a weed soda and I think them like 732 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: a pr office and they're just here. I've never had 733 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 1: one that's not particularly want to be a sponsor on 734 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: drama queens. I mean, we'll take it. And my mom 735 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: my mom grabs a kid and I go, oh my god, mom, Mom, Mo, 736 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,359 Speaker 1: mo mom. And she's like what she's like opening it 737 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: and I go, there's weed in that. That's not like 738 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: a it's not just a ginger whatever. And she goes, yeah, 739 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: it's two milligrams. It looks at me like I'm a loser. 740 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I mean, okay, enjoy it. 741 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: And she was like, you need to relax. You should 742 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: drink one of these. And I was like, okay, okay, lady, 743 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,439 Speaker 1: we're calling me up tight. But what I was say 744 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: is like I think back you know, it's funny for 745 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: me now at our age, I think back to being 746 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: young and my parents, because of their own experiences and 747 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: their experiences and their family, we're able to really clarify 748 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: some things for me because as a kid, you learn like, 749 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: dare drugs are bad, you know, and what the adults 750 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 1: do is good. And my parents were like, listen, some 751 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: drugs are legal and some are. Yeah, we were in 752 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 1: high school. Marijuana wasn't legal. Granted it was everywhere, but 753 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 1: my parents were like, look, there's really no difference between 754 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 1: marijuana and tobacco. One just made so much money for 755 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: corporations that they were able to make the other one illegal. 756 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,719 Speaker 1: They'll both fuck you up and there and only one 757 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: is addictive and we'll give you cancer. You make your decisions, 758 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 1: you know. Some some people labor and I'm not, by 759 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 1: the way out here saying like everybody should try every 760 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 1: drug because there's no difference there. There obviously are, But 761 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: my parents were like, listen, that's right, all in cats. 762 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 1: But you know, my my dad's dad and I can 763 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,839 Speaker 1: say this because you know, both my dad's parents were 764 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: no longer with us, but my dad's dad was an alcoholic, 765 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:51,800 Speaker 1: and my parents were very clear, like, listen, everybody drinks 766 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: because it's legal. Alcohol is also a drug. Like they 767 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 1: gave me very clear perspectives on being careful in all 768 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 1: sorts of arenas and respecting how I felt under any 769 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: version of influence I might want to try at any time. 770 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: As I grew up, you know, just because when thing 771 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: is legal doesn't mean it won't put you in a 772 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: dangerous situation. Figure out how you feel. And that was 773 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: more illuminating for me thinking back, like at Gus's age, 774 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: than anything else, because it gave me agency two understand 775 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: that I could observe things as they are, not just 776 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: as someone told me they were, not just like, yeah, 777 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: it's fine to chug beers all weekend because everybody in 778 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: college is doing it. I was like, I mean, I 779 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: love a good beer as much as the next person, 780 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: But like the people doing keg stands and beer box 781 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: gets so drunk they throw up on themselves and that's embarrassing, 782 00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: you know. Like that's the thing about freedom. You can't 783 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: just there. There's no such thing as just do whatever 784 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: you want. But we have conflicting desires at all times. 785 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: You want to go party and get drunk and get high, 786 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: The freedom you're giving up is the freedom to think 787 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 1: clearly and have a more you know, organized life, being 788 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: able to function on a high level. If you're going 789 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,920 Speaker 1: to live this other way, so you want that freedom, 790 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: you're giving up this freedom. If you want the freedom 791 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,919 Speaker 1: to be able to do, you know, live a life 792 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: where you're um coherent, you're working on yourself, you're constantly 793 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: um functioning on a level that is uh beneficial, then 794 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: you have to give up the freedom to go live 795 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: a life where you're constantly filling yourself up with things 796 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: like drug and alcohol, drugs and alcohol. Um. And that's 797 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: something that was never I mean, I was always a 798 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: pretty good kid and I didn't do well. I hate 799 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: that term good kid. Um. I was. I was a 800 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,280 Speaker 1: pretty safe kid, um in terms of until that drugs 801 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 1: pain came along. Don't get me started, you know. But 802 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: but but yeah, nobody ever really talked to me about 803 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 1: that idea of like, we'll think about what you're giving 804 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: up on either end. You're going to make your decisions, 805 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,359 Speaker 1: like you're saying, so if you know you're gonna make 806 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: your decisions, but just think about what you're giving up 807 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: on either side. There's no such thing as just total 808 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 1: freedom doesn't exist well. And I think something's interesting about 809 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: what you're saying is we get stuck in this false 810 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: binary a lot. And you know, Joy, I've heard you 811 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,600 Speaker 1: say like, I wish I was I wish I gave 812 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: myself permission to be more wild when we were in 813 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:44,479 Speaker 1: our twenties, and I meanwhile, I mean, sister Hillary was like, well, 814 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: I probably could have sobered up a little. If we 815 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: met in the middle, we would have been unstoppable. But 816 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 1: that's it, you guys. What I'm saying here is I 817 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 1: think if we're more honest with each other, with our kids, 818 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 1: if our parents had had the language that you know 819 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: now that we're in this amazing era of mental health 820 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: awareness that we have, like there could have been a 821 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: little more grace for the flexible. Yeah, you're not, there's 822 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: no what's a good kid? Great exactly, But if you 823 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: want to experiment, can you do that safely? You will 824 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: make mistakes that you'll wish you could take back, and 825 00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 1: you'll do some things that adults in the room might 826 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: tell you, we're a mistake that will be your favorite 827 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 1: memories of your life. Like let's make calculated risks. Yeah, 828 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: calculated risk like because let me tell you what. And 829 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: for our friends at home, we're pros that calculated risk. 830 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: Now we're more fun than we've ever been. I love us. 831 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: I love us so much more now than I did 832 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 1: when we were twenty two, and I loved us a 833 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: lot then. Yes, devoid of parenting. Um to have this, 834 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, guest actress who's doing this arc come in 835 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 1: and like, bomb after bomb after bomb is just like listen, 836 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: if you're going to fool around with a boy, awesome, 837 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: make sure it's worth it. Hey, if you're going to 838 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,800 Speaker 1: do drugs, I did drugs. I'm here, I'm a functional person. 839 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: You could do better than that. You know, that earnestness 840 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: and that honesty. I was just so hungry for it, 841 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: and I hope we continue to get more of it 842 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,320 Speaker 1: because I know, like other parents come in, like Daphne 843 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 1: comes in eventually, joy, your mom comes back after I leave. 844 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: You know, like we get it, but like you know, 845 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 1: we would only get it in little, tiny doses. We 846 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: did get some parenting in this episode, though, and that 847 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 1: I loved that. We saw Karen talking with Lucas, we 848 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,560 Speaker 1: saw the Elle moment, We saw Whitey doing the right 849 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: thing for his for his boys, his team, um and 850 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: whiskey glass and put it in the drawer and closed 851 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: the drawer. When did that happen? Nathan goes into Whitey's 852 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: office after the aim and it's like, I know you 853 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 1: had to do that, you know, Like, yeah, I just 854 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about scouts. Whitey has, you know, 855 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: a hard earned glass of whiskey sitting on his desk, 856 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: and rather than leave it there, which is inappropriate, he 857 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 1: takes it and puts it in his desk drawer and 858 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: just slowly closes the drawer like the child have been 859 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: looking away. Child has already seen the glass. The child 860 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,120 Speaker 1: knows what is happening, and he's just like, this is 861 00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: a formality. You never saw anything. You gave no attention. No, 862 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: that's great. I need some whiskey. How's your how's your 863 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,760 Speaker 1: whiskey line? Going home? Dude? We I have so tomorrow 864 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to an event at the Beakman Boys estate 865 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: because they're the Beakman Boys. Um. Beakman Boys are a 866 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,400 Speaker 1: couple um that moved up here to the Hudson Valley 867 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: years and years and years ago. They bought a goat farm. 868 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: They completely employed their whole town with a line of 869 00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: like Goat soap and like all these like fabulous boutique products. 870 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: And if anyone exemplifies UM caring for their community and 871 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: building opportunities for small towns and rural areas, it's them. 872 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: And so I read their book before we bought our 873 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: farm and they were like my heroes. So tomorrow they're 874 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: doing this event at their estate and they're using m 875 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 1: F Libations as like their cocktail at the dinner, and 876 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: it's so nice. I can't wait to go. And I'm 877 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna play with baby goats and it's gonna be drinking. Meanwhile, 878 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: I am going to a friend's house to have some 879 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: drinks tonight, and I'm bringing a bottle of wine that 880 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: came to me from Drink Good Wine and very excited 881 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: about this. I've got a case of six I've been 882 00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: drinking the white. One of the whites is in my 883 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 1: freezer right or sorry, my fridge right now, Grant has 884 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't really drink wine. White wine are like crazy. 885 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 1: The oranges are insane. I'm saving them. Actually, that's what 886 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,720 Speaker 1: I'll bring them I'll bring tonight is an orange wine. Okay, 887 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm excited about both of your family like 888 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: our companies and just wanted to suck you guys fun. Um, 889 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: we have some listener questions. Alex wants to know. I 890 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: noticed there's a wedding nearly every season. Was that intentional? 891 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,040 Speaker 1: That's hysterical? Wasn't intentional by the writers. Somebody in the 892 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: art department was probably sleeping with a local florist. They're like, 893 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: so when I was on the Earth Carolina Film Commission, 894 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 1: that was one of the like how many small businesses 895 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,360 Speaker 1: benefit from film in a place like Wilmington's, you know, 896 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: and when you look at like the catering we do 897 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: for dinners and food many and things like weddings and 898 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,280 Speaker 1: funerals on our TV show would blow up a florists 899 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 1: yearly income. Do you guys remember speaking of what those 900 00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 1: those film mission research pieces. I remember after our show wrapped. Um, 901 00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: and you know, again, guys, we were just like a 902 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: family show. We weren't doing you know, crazy stunts and 903 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,279 Speaker 1: blowing things up, I mean very often, but you know, 904 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: the just the amount of investment. They talked about, how 905 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: not money spent insularly on our show, like within the studio, 906 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,399 Speaker 1: you know, per episode, but money that filtered from our 907 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: show filming in Wilmington's out into the city and state. 908 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: In nine seasons, our show generated two hundred and fifty 909 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 1: six million dollars investment into North Carolina hotels awesome, like 910 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: hotel rooms rented to Hillary's point, you know, catering for 911 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: second meal that came from the Chinese restaurant or from 912 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 1: the books on Front Street, like the you know, if 913 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: we were shooting a wedding that was eight days and 914 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: eight days, we needed forty six flower arrangement day wedding. 915 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 1: And it's not just like a four hour wedding or 916 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: like a six hour wedding. It's like a fifteen to 917 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: seventeen our wedding. And I think that's a that's part 918 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 1: of the story that gets lost there. There's this real 919 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 1: weird narrative that's been pushed about Hollywood and film and TV. 920 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,919 Speaker 1: And it makes me laugh because I'm like, first of all, 921 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 1: nobody works in Hollywood all over the country from Jersey. 922 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:29,520 Speaker 1: We're all from Jersey, but we um biography by the way, 923 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: Joy can't wait. But there's like, there really is this 924 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: incredible thing anywhere that a that a show or a 925 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,440 Speaker 1: film pops up. You create a community, and you also 926 00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: boost a community. And so it's funny, you know. I 927 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 1: like when people are like, why do you TV people 928 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: care so much about healthcare, I'm like, because we all 929 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: have health care because we're in a union, you know, 930 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 1: like we want other people to be able to be 931 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 1: in unions and like go to the doctor for like 932 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: not a million dollars a year. That's a and I 933 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: and I think it's I get really proud when we 934 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,440 Speaker 1: get to talk about the way that our storytelling has 935 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: been able to stand up in communities like Wilmington's and 936 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: in states, you know, like our former home state, and 937 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: we get to, you know, we get to support all 938 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 1: these cool small businesses and the clothing stores. So that 939 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 1: was our favorite wedding though of all the weddings, Oh, 940 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 1: of all the weddings, what was our favorite wedding? I 941 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,360 Speaker 1: really had fun at Nathan and Haley's wedding where the 942 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: car goes off the bridge, because it was just so 943 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: much to do, and um, it was in such a beauty. 944 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: We were shooting on this gorgeous property and it was 945 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 1: like old and historic and there were so many I 946 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: don't know, everybody was there and it was a big 947 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: party and everything was in a different location, so it 948 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,479 Speaker 1: wasn't all in one room. So we were moving from 949 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: like places on the property to different places. And and 950 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: then there's like a car going off literally went off 951 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: the edge, and we had Michael Trucko with us, and 952 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: there's like guys in the water trying to shoot the alligators. 953 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,040 Speaker 1: There was a lot going on. I liked that wedding 954 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: those but that was that was the one. Have I 955 00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: told the story yet about when I was I couldn't 956 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 1: get there because my flight. I missed my flight and 957 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 1: we had to shoot that day. We had a helicopter 958 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,240 Speaker 1: set up for that for that day, Like there were 959 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: shots from a helicopter. There were like guys set up 960 00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: in the water. It was a huge, huge, huge day. 961 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: And I was flying back from wherever I was, probably 962 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: l A or Washington or something, and um, I was 963 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: sitting in the Atlanta airport and I had my headphones 964 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 1: on and they changed the gate and I didn't hear it, 965 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,120 Speaker 1: and I missed the flight and it was the last 966 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,720 Speaker 1: flight out and I had to be there. I had 967 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,520 Speaker 1: to be there at like six thirty in the morning. 968 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: So I literally this is this is some real bougie guys. 969 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: This is the kind of stuff that actors do at 970 00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: the last minute because we're so scrambly, because because you 971 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: don't want to get fired and you don't want to 972 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: make everybody wait, like a crew of two hundred people 973 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: wait for you know, an extra six hours. Like it's 974 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,120 Speaker 1: it was bad. It was like the worst case scenario. 975 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,439 Speaker 1: And I went down to like budget rent a car, 976 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,439 Speaker 1: and I said, because I knew I had to sleep 977 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: because I had to work the whole next day and 978 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: I had it was like my wedding day and it 979 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 1: was craziness and I had to sleep. So I found 980 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,240 Speaker 1: this woman that looked trustworthy, and I said, I will 981 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: pay you a thousand dollars to drive me to Wilmington, 982 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: North Carolina tonight, and she did. She was not even 983 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 1: a car service, just the lad because it just was 984 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: no time. There was no time to like find a 985 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,439 Speaker 1: car was back then, that's right, that's right. Everybody was closed. Yeah, 986 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,880 Speaker 1: and it was you know, I was twenty one, I 987 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: mean whatever. So she was like, this is really weird, 988 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: but I kind of trust you, and um, I also 989 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: like I've seen your show, so I know you're not crazy. 990 01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Let me get my boyfriend and you know, so that 991 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm not alone in the car with you strange ladies, 992 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: and they drove me to will join does Banasa? Guys, 993 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 1: how do we find this woman? We have to find 994 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 1: the podcast. Okay, yeah we do. That would be amazing 995 01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 1: if we has heard their friend tell this story, Like, 996 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: have I never told you? That's the time I had 997 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 1: to drive joy less? You know, um, somebody I slept 998 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,320 Speaker 1: in the backseat. I woke up in Wilmington's. I mean 999 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,920 Speaker 1: I just kind of I tried to sleep. You know, 1000 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: it's like a little scary three iPhones. We were so resourceful, 1001 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,480 Speaker 1: Like damn, that's so there's no excuse when like an 1002 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:57,120 Speaker 1: assistant that I hire can't figure something out like they 1003 01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: do how to, Like I can't. I can't. I just can't. Yeah. Yeah, 1004 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: I like this. Oh man, I can't wait to find 1005 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:11,400 Speaker 1: this woman. I love this wedding so much more juicy 1006 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:14,120 Speaker 1: because I know how hard you worked for it. You 1007 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: know you had to be there. We need to know her. Yeah, yeah, please, 1008 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: if you're out there, call us, text us. Let's spend 1009 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,800 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, I don't know how you top that. 1010 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,320 Speaker 1: Joey can't. We're done. I'm just gonna pay these two 1011 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: people most likely to get kidnapped is Bethany Joy. Let's 1012 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 1: get in the back seat of your car, Please don't 1013 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: kill me. Most likely to the it's great. Most likely 1014 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: the crash of wedding is going to be that woman 1015 01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,720 Speaker 1: who drove me from Atlanta to North Carolina. She's like, 1016 01:01:56,760 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: what are you guys filming today? Come? Wait? Why are 1017 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:08,600 Speaker 1: you pointing to yourself? So I've done it um years ago? 1018 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, years and years ago. I can't remember. 1019 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if we were still in Wilmington's or maybe 1020 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: if it was the first year after we wrapped. I 1021 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,919 Speaker 1: don't know, but I was in Philadelphia. I was there 1022 01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: to speak to the Girl Scouts. I gave a talk 1023 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: to like hundred young girls on you know, activism and 1024 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: community service, sweet little angels. It must have been right 1025 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: after we wrapped our show, and I was with my 1026 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 1: friend Erica, who is like a crafting maven, and she 1027 01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,840 Speaker 1: had also come to the Girl Scouts conference and took 1028 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: them through crafts. We had the time of our lives 1029 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,600 Speaker 1: with all these little kids. It was like being camp 1030 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:50,480 Speaker 1: counselors again. And all I wanted was a cheese steak. 1031 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 1: We were in Philadelphia. I was like, there is the 1032 01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,960 Speaker 1: iconic spot. I gotta go. And there was like a 1033 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 1: dinner plan that because we had a bunch of friends 1034 01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,480 Speaker 1: in town, and I was like, I gotta take a detour. 1035 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 1: I gotta get cheese take on the way to dinner. 1036 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:05,080 Speaker 1: I know that's ridiculous, but I'm doing it. And Erica 1037 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 1: was like, Oh, come with you. And so we had 1038 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 1: to walk from this diner to this other restaurant we 1039 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 1: were going to, and there was this party that just 1040 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,800 Speaker 1: looked so fun, and she was like, look at those lights. 1041 01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: I want to I want to get a close up 1042 01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,439 Speaker 1: look at those. You know, she's thinking like I could 1043 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,680 Speaker 1: build those. And we walk over and somebody kind of 1044 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,640 Speaker 1: gives us this weird look and and and I don't know, 1045 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 1: let's say, I'm gonna use y'all's names for fun, like, oh, 1046 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,600 Speaker 1: are you here for Hillary and Joy? And we were 1047 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,200 Speaker 1: like yeah. She's got her phone out and she's like 1048 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,560 Speaker 1: looking at you know, she's trying to like sneak a 1049 01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: picture of these cool lights that are changing colors. And 1050 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: she's like, let's just speak inside for one minute. And 1051 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:42,560 Speaker 1: we go in and we realize we're at a wedding, 1052 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, Erica we have to go. And she's like, 1053 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,760 Speaker 1: absolutely not. We're here. We made it in. That guy 1054 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: at the door's police security. Thank god, we're dressed up. 1055 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, I feel very uncomfortable, and she 1056 01:03:54,880 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: was like, you are not. I am a calculated risk taker. 1057 01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: This was not a calculated risk. This was an immediate risk. 1058 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Also not to like, you know, say this thing that's gross, 1059 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: but like we've been on TV for a long time. 1060 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:14,960 Speaker 1: We're not exactly inconspicuous. And I'm like Erica, and she goes, 1061 01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: this will be good for you. Come on, we would 1062 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: like start walking in. She's she's amazing. And we walk 1063 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,120 Speaker 1: in and like someone comes around with champagne. She's like, 1064 01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,440 Speaker 1: get a champagne. She's like, give me five minutes and 1065 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,320 Speaker 1: if you're having a miserable time, we'll leave. And either 1066 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 1: way we'll leave intent. And I go, okay, okay, okay. 1067 01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:34,440 Speaker 1: So I'm like taking a deep breath, no sw I'm like, 1068 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: my hands are so clammy telling you this story. Four 1069 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: minutes into this Philadelphia wedding, which by the way, ruled, 1070 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: wish I'd gotten the name of the band and they 1071 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 1: were amazing. Um, this guy with a camera comes over 1072 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: and goes want to record a video for the bride 1073 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 1: and groom, and Erica looks at me like literally gives 1074 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 1: me the ideare you face? And I downed my champagne 1075 01:04:54,520 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: and went, we sure do a video message together for 1076 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 1: this couple we've never met, probably complimenting their lighting scheme, 1077 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: and then we went to dinner. This is genius. Oh 1078 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: my gosh, it's so good. I love the impulsiveness. I 1079 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,919 Speaker 1: love If you're the person whose wedding I crashed in Philadelphia, 1080 01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 1: please send us the video. Guys, we have so many 1081 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 1: time projects for the fan base. This week you have 1082 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,560 Speaker 1: to find Joyce Driver and Sophia's bride and groom. This 1083 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: also shout out to our detectives. Have you guys seen 1084 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,400 Speaker 1: the tweets about Tyler, Elvis and Chris Isaac? Wait what, 1085 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 1: oh joy I'm gonna send him to I have not 1086 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,800 Speaker 1: been on social media and so long I saved the tweets. 1087 01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: People put Chris Isaac and Elvis in one of those 1088 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 1: face melder things and the man that comes out is 1089 01:05:53,440 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 1: Tyler Hilton with black hats. Une send me these psh 1090 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: there are we love y'all? Yeah, thank you. I'm a 1091 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: big fan of all their hard work so much easier 1092 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 1: on it. It's incredible. You guys, you are the best. Um. Okay, 1093 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 1: So next week we have episode thirteen, The Wind that 1094 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,760 Speaker 1: Blew My Heart Away. Our contest winner Amanda told us 1095 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: that this was going to be the episode that made 1096 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 1: us really happy. She didn't you know. She was like, 1097 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: wait to get the thirteen. That's when you get your 1098 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 1: show back. But I really feel like twelve was a 1099 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 1: strong Maybe she just had the numbers off. This is 1100 01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: a good one. I was really into this one. 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