Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Feature Production of My Heart Radio. I'm
Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology
Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, guess what,
Speaker 1: it's just you me, some recording equipment and a document
Speaker 1: I've got open where I wrote my notes because we
Speaker 1: are doing listener questions today. That's right. You write me
Speaker 1: your questions and I answer them. I sure do. And
Speaker 1: if you think you have some questions or know you
Speaker 1: have questions that you want to ask me, you can
Speaker 1: always email me at Creature Feature Pod at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: Can also send me in your pet pictures, your thoughts,
Speaker 1: your hopes and dreams. I try to respond to as
Speaker 1: many as I can in as good amount of time
Speaker 1: as I can, and sometimes I will answer them on
Speaker 1: the show like I'm doing right now. I've got some
Speaker 1: really exciting questions that I am so pumped, so hyped
Speaker 1: to talk about today. Let's start out with this one.
Speaker 1: Why don't we? This is from A B M. Hi, Katie,
Speaker 1: I really enjoy listening to your podcast, and I was
Speaker 1: wondering if you had ever heard of the side Blotched
Speaker 1: Lizard and their Rock paper scissors mating strategy. I heard
Speaker 1: about this in another podcast about Rock Paper Scissors, but
Speaker 1: I was curious to know more and to know your
Speaker 1: thoughts on it. P s. As a side note, you
Speaker 1: should invite Josh and Chuck from stuff you should know
Speaker 1: on your podcast. So thank you Abby M for the
Speaker 1: wonderful question. First of all, I love Josh and Chuck.
Speaker 1: They were my entry into listening to podcasts. Uh what
Speaker 1: feels like a really long time ago, which probably is
Speaker 1: a long time ago, because that's that's how time works.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I love them. Um, maybe maybe I'll
Speaker 1: work up the courage to try and invite them on.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it would. It would be one
Speaker 1: of those things where I'd just be like, Hey, you're
Speaker 1: Josh and Chuck. What the heck, What the heck are
Speaker 1: you doing talking to me? But maybe maybe I'll try
Speaker 1: so on to blotch lizards, so side Blotched lizards are
Speaker 1: very interesting. They do indeed have a rock paper scissors
Speaker 1: mating strategies. So these little guys are found in the
Speaker 1: western United States and in Mexico in desert regions. They're
Speaker 1: only about six inches or fifteen centimeters long including the tail,
Speaker 1: so they make for a nice tasty snack for larger
Speaker 1: lizards roadrunners, and so they have a modeled brown coloration
Speaker 1: to make them blend in with their sandy territory, and
Speaker 1: they must breed at a high rate to make up
Speaker 1: for the loss in their numbers due to predation. So
Speaker 1: the one colorful spot on these lizards is their throats.
Speaker 1: Males come in three delicious delectable flavors orange, blue, and yellow.
Speaker 1: Females also have some coloration on their throats and they
Speaker 1: come in two colors, orange and yellow. So orange throated
Speaker 1: males are large and aggressive. Blue throated males are not
Speaker 1: quite as large or aggressive, and they will actually cooperate
Speaker 1: with other blue throated males. Meanwhile, yellow throated males are small,
Speaker 1: non aggressive, and can easily be mistaken for a female lizard.
Speaker 1: The male orange throated blotched lizards have the following mating strategy.
Speaker 1: They use their aggression and their size to stake out
Speaker 1: a large territory and this access to a good number
Speaker 1: of females. They're easily able to fight off the smaller
Speaker 1: blue throated males. However, with such a large territory, it's
Speaker 1: easy for the yellow throated males who are small in
Speaker 1: share coloration with the females to sneak in the edges
Speaker 1: of the male's territory and mate with some of the females.
Speaker 1: The orange throated males finds it difficult to keep track
Speaker 1: of these sneaker males and they can't really prevent the
Speaker 1: yellow throated males from having some reproductive success. The blue
Speaker 1: throated males have a different mating strategy, so they have
Speaker 1: smaller territories, but they cooperate with each other to defend
Speaker 1: them so while they are easily overpowered by the hooking
Speaker 1: orange throated males. Because the blue throated males have a
Speaker 1: smaller area to keep track of and additionally have a
Speaker 1: network of other blue throats that they're friends with that
Speaker 1: will help them keep watch, those sneaky yellow throated males
Speaker 1: find it harder to infiltrate their territory to seek a
Speaker 1: sexual tryst with a female. So this is why it's
Speaker 1: called the rock paper scissors mating strategy. Because each of
Speaker 1: these types of males has a strategy that defeats one
Speaker 1: other type of male while they are easily defeated by
Speaker 1: the other type of male. So imagine the orange throated
Speaker 1: mail as the rock. He's big, tough, and strong. The
Speaker 1: blue throats are the scissors. They're more fragile than the rock,
Speaker 1: and they can be smashed by the rock. The yellow
Speaker 1: throats are the paper. They're lightweight and seemingly harmless, but
Speaker 1: they can surround the rocks defenses and sneak in. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the blue throats, which are the scissors, can work together
Speaker 1: to cut through the sneaky paper. Yellow throated males subterfuge.
Speaker 1: So I guess the problem with this metaphor is that
Speaker 1: rock Paper scissors is a game. Doesn't make that much
Speaker 1: since in the first place, I've never quite understood why
Speaker 1: paper defeats rock. It just surrounds it. How does that
Speaker 1: I don't really understand why that means it defeats rock.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, maybe we should change the game to orange lizard,
Speaker 1: blue lizard, yellow lizard. Maybe that doesn't roll off the
Speaker 1: tongue as well. Regardless, Abby m also asked if there's
Speaker 1: anything else that there is to know about the story,
Speaker 1: and indeed there is so whenever you have competitive interactions
Speaker 1: between animals, you get some really interesting game theory dynamics
Speaker 1: that make mathematicians salivate. In the case of these lizards.
Speaker 1: The population composition changes every few years in a sort
Speaker 1: of ballet of mating success. Think of what would happen
Speaker 1: if you have a bunch of orange throated males successfully
Speaker 1: bullying the blue throated males away. So you've got this
Speaker 1: large population of orange throated males, so great, more orange throats,
Speaker 1: fewer blue throats. But what does that mean. You have
Speaker 1: that third player, the yellow throats. And remember orange throats
Speaker 1: are basically the rock and yellow throats are the paper.
Speaker 1: So now the yellow throats can easily sneak into the
Speaker 1: big buff but not to observant. Orange throat males territories
Speaker 1: mate with a lot of females, and then what happens.
Speaker 1: You have an explosion of population of yellow throated males
Speaker 1: and fewer orange throated males. So then what happens, Well,
Speaker 1: the blue throated males now have an advantage because they
Speaker 1: have fewer orange throated broots to contend with, and they
Speaker 1: are uniquely able to defeat the yellow strategy. So imagine
Speaker 1: this as a cycle over the years where you'll have
Speaker 1: an increase in the orange population, and then an increase
Speaker 1: in the yellow population, and then an increase in the
Speaker 1: blue population, and so on and so forth for millions
Speaker 1: of years. So this system can in some cases be
Speaker 1: relatively stable, like I said, going on for millions of years,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it actually changes, so some populations will end
Speaker 1: up losing one of the color variations, destabilizing the game.
Speaker 1: Interesting it seems like typically the pattern is that the
Speaker 1: yellow throated males are the ones who go first. But
Speaker 1: when this happens, you no longer have this stable game
Speaker 1: going on. You can't continue the rock paper scissors game
Speaker 1: because it's just rock scissors and that's not really a
Speaker 1: viable game. So the lizards will actually start to rapidly
Speaker 1: evolve in their theology changes in a very quick and
Speaker 1: pretty pronounced way, so their body size changes rapidly, and
Speaker 1: then this game is no longer stable, and that would
Speaker 1: indicate that these lizards could become a new species once
Speaker 1: this rock paper scissors game is destabilized and if they
Speaker 1: undergo enough of an evolution in terms of their biology.
Speaker 1: So that is the fascinating story of the rock paper
Speaker 1: scissors lizards. Uh, the side blotched lizards and uh funny
Speaker 1: side story relating to rock paper scissors and meeting strategies.
Speaker 1: So I'm actually living in Italy. Now, as you may
Speaker 1: have heard on the podcast before, and I'm learning Italian
Speaker 1: because they speak a lot of Italian and Italy. Go figure.
Speaker 1: So in one of my Italian classes, our teacher taught
Speaker 1: us the Italian for rock paper scissors, and I tried
Speaker 1: to remember it. And in another class session, we were
Speaker 1: trying to decide who should read aloud the daily reading
Speaker 1: an Italian and I helpfully suggested maybe a game of
Speaker 1: rock paper scissors. But I said this in Italian, So
Speaker 1: what I said was for se un joco di sesso
Speaker 1: carta fbici. But the Italian word for rock is actually sasso,
Speaker 1: not sesso. What sesso means is sex. So what I
Speaker 1: announced to the class is that we should play a
Speaker 1: game of sex, paper and scissors, which, fortunately we found
Speaker 1: another way to decide who should do the reading. But
Speaker 1: I thought you might enjoy that little anecdote about how
Speaker 1: I accidentally tried to invent sex paper scissors in the
Speaker 1: human population and not in the lizard population. So when
Speaker 1: we get back, I will go over another list of
Speaker 1: are questions, So stay tuned. Welcome back, Welcome, welcome back.
Speaker 1: So the TikTok's the click clocks the clippity clops, the
Speaker 1: dippity dot, the dipping dots. Is that what kids are
Speaker 1: doing today at the TikTok's. I've got a question about TikTok.
Speaker 1: So this is from Will and they say hello. I
Speaker 1: recently discovered that my degree from TikTok University is worthless,
Speaker 1: so that means I have to do some fact checking
Speaker 1: at podcast University. I recently saw a TikTok that said
Speaker 1: that we don't know how eels make. They said, we
Speaker 1: can't find their genitals, and every so often eel swim
Speaker 1: to the Bermuda triangle and then more eels come back. So,
Speaker 1: Professor Katie, does this stand up to scrutiny? Aren't there
Speaker 1: more than one kind of eel? Is it all eels
Speaker 1: or just a specific eel? Can you help me understand
Speaker 1: the more's of more eels? A more? A thanks. I'm
Speaker 1: always happy when I see a new creature feature drop ps.
Speaker 1: My wife and I use the app podcast Addict, and
Speaker 1: often when you do your look Who's Squawking segment, we
Speaker 1: can't hear the sound. It's clear that other people here
Speaker 1: who is squawking, but neither of us can't. I don't
Speaker 1: know why this could possibly be. So, first of all,
Speaker 1: to address the audio thing. Actually got this comment from
Speaker 1: a few people, and I think it may have something
Speaker 1: to do with the audio being in stereo and certain
Speaker 1: podcast platforms not being able to deal with that. So
Speaker 1: I've been converting it into mono tracks and I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that's solved the problem. Just to make sure, why don't
Speaker 1: we do a little audio test right now, see if
Speaker 1: you can hear this goat screaming, and if not, please
Speaker 1: write to me at Creature Feature Product gmail dot com,
Speaker 1: or you can write to me if you do hear
Speaker 1: the goat screaming, just to share anyways, here it is,
Speaker 1: So did you hear the goat scream? Hopefully it did?
Speaker 1: Now onto the question. So TikTok University, as acclaimed and
Speaker 1: accredited as it is, is not quite right about this one.
Speaker 1: But I can actually see where this myth is coming
Speaker 1: from because the truth is really weird, and there are
Speaker 1: elements of truth in this TikTok meme. But as usual,
Speaker 1: knowing the facts is actually way more fascinating than the
Speaker 1: urban legend. So the mystery of eel gonads and mating
Speaker 1: goes back very far so. In fact, German biologist Max
Speaker 1: Schultze reportedly claimed that all the major biology questions had
Speaker 1: been answered aside from the eel question, on his deathbed
Speaker 1: in eighteen seventy four. Of course, he was wrong. All
Speaker 1: the major questions in biology had not been answered and
Speaker 1: still have not been answered. Actually, Sigmund Freud, famed father
Speaker 1: of psychoanalysis and sexualizer of pipes, started out with an
Speaker 1: interest in theology, which is study of fish, and as
Speaker 1: part of his studies he would dissect eels, getting risk
Speaker 1: deep in their guts trying to find their gonads. So
Speaker 1: the eel at the center of this mating gonad mystery
Speaker 1: is Anguilla Anguilla, the European eel. It's a species of
Speaker 1: true eel, which is a type of ray fin fish
Speaker 1: that have evolved into a snakelike elongated form, and they
Speaker 1: often lack a pelvic and pectoral fin. The European eel
Speaker 1: can grow up to a little under three feet or
Speaker 1: one meter long. Even the Greek philosophers wondered how these
Speaker 1: eels reproduced. Aristotle supposed that they were spawned from beneath
Speaker 1: the surface of the Earth just spontaneously. Of course, this
Speaker 1: is incorrect. They also do not come into spontaneous existence
Speaker 1: due to the reality bending magic of the Bermuda triangle, although,
Speaker 1: as we'll soon discuss, they do migrate towards that area
Speaker 1: to mate. So the mystery of the missing eel sex
Speaker 1: parts and how they mate was solved in nine by
Speaker 1: Danish marine biologist Earnst Johannes Schmidt, no relation to Front
Speaker 1: of the show Alan Schmidt. Schmidt led a long and
Speaker 1: painstaking expedition to track the mating location of the European eel.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons the eel's life cycle has so
Speaker 1: long alluded early biologists is how different it looks at
Speaker 1: each stage of its life. So the eel goes through
Speaker 1: a metamorphosis, starting out as eggs than a small, flat,
Speaker 1: transparent larva that looks more like a giant amba than
Speaker 1: an eel. Then it grows into a glass eel, a
Speaker 1: transparent little thing that looks like a glass noodle. Then
Speaker 1: it starts to mature into an elv, which looks more
Speaker 1: like its adult form and that it's pigmented and no
Speaker 1: longer are transparent, but it's still pretty miniature. Then it
Speaker 1: grows into a yellow eel, named such because it's belly
Speaker 1: is a yellowish color and it's nearly adult sized. Finally
Speaker 1: comes the fully matured, sexually mature adult version called the
Speaker 1: silver eel, which grows larger eyes, a white belly, and
Speaker 1: silver flanks. So the gonads wive biologists had so much
Speaker 1: trouble finding those things. So the reason is that the
Speaker 1: gonads only develop when the eel is at its final
Speaker 1: stage of metamorphosis, the silver eel stage, and this final
Speaker 1: eel form develops as the eel goes on a long
Speaker 1: migration to the Sargasso Sea. So notably, the Sargasso Sea
Speaker 1: does share a corner with the Bermuda Triangle. It's a
Speaker 1: sea located in a sea, so it's found in the
Speaker 1: Atlantic Ocean, and it's formed not by land mass but
Speaker 1: a border of currents. So the Sargasso Sea is an
Speaker 1: area of calmber waters within the Atlantic. So Ernst Johannes Schmidt,
Speaker 1: that Dutch biologist had to follow the eel during its
Speaker 1: different stages of life, following the elver's, the glass eels,
Speaker 1: and the larva, and he determined that the eels were
Speaker 1: spotting somewhere in the Sargasso Sea. So in tween there
Speaker 1: was actually a study using radio transmitters affixed to eels,
Speaker 1: but this time it was too American eels, and the
Speaker 1: researchers found that the American eels actually were also mating
Speaker 1: in the Sargasso Sea. So people didn't find these gonads
Speaker 1: on eels because at earlier stages in the eel's life
Speaker 1: they didn't have the gonads. They only developed when they
Speaker 1: went on this migration to the Sargasso Sea. Also, weirdly enough,
Speaker 1: the eel stomachs dissolves as they make this migration, and
Speaker 1: they live only on their body fat for thousands of miles,
Speaker 1: and after mating, the eel dies. So do we actually
Speaker 1: know how they mate, like the actual mechanics and process
Speaker 1: of the mating itself. So despite the lack of direct
Speaker 1: observations in the Sargasso Sea, we actually do to an
Speaker 1: extent understand how they make. Researchers are able to observe
Speaker 1: European eels mating in captivity by inducing sexual maturity in
Speaker 1: them with hormone treatments, and it appears, at least in
Speaker 1: captivity that the females release eggs and the males release
Speaker 1: sperm over the eggs. External fertilization, such as is found
Speaker 1: in many other species of fish, but breeding European eels
Speaker 1: in captivity and actually successfully raising the offspring is still
Speaker 1: in the early stages of research, and the European eels
Speaker 1: exact mating grounds in the Sargasso Sea have not yet
Speaker 1: been found or observed, so there are still many mysteries
Speaker 1: of eel sex to discover. There are other species of
Speaker 1: eel who's mating locations and behaviors are easier to observe
Speaker 1: and are better understood. So while there are still mysteries
Speaker 1: around the mating habits of European eels as well as
Speaker 1: some other eel species. Yes, we do know generally how
Speaker 1: eels made. Yes, we know that they have gonads, and
Speaker 1: we know that when they reach sexual maturity, that's when
Speaker 1: they develop these gonads and they migrate to a mating
Speaker 1: area somewhere in the Sargasso Sea, then returned to Europe
Speaker 1: as they go through a number of different life stages.
Speaker 1: So skip that degree from TikTok University and accept this
Speaker 1: diploma in eel sexology from Creature Feature you home of
Speaker 1: the Fighting Parasitoids, So enjoy that diploma. We're going to
Speaker 1: take a quick break and when we get back, we're
Speaker 1: gonna answer one more listener question and then play a
Speaker 1: game of gifts. Who's squawking? So this question is from
Speaker 1: Twitter from Mystic mo Hi Katie. I know that dogs
Speaker 1: can sense when people are going to have seizures, but
Speaker 1: I just recently learned that they can also detect diabetic levels.
Speaker 1: I was just curious how humans learned that dogs could
Speaker 1: smell these problems out in humans. Thanks for the podcast.
Speaker 1: So this is a really interesting question, and I am
Speaker 1: not necessarily an expert on doctor dogs, but I looked
Speaker 1: into this. So we've probably known a long time about
Speaker 1: dogs accurate sense of smell due to how they can
Speaker 1: track down prey, pests, and even humans. We've taken advantage
Speaker 1: of their sense of smell probably far back in our
Speaker 1: coevolution with dogs in terms of using them as guard dogs,
Speaker 1: as hunting dogs to be able to ferret out and
Speaker 1: get rid of pests and agriculture, and so we've probably
Speaker 1: for a long time understood that they have amazing noses,
Speaker 1: and they really do. So in more modern times, we've
Speaker 1: been able to use dogs to do more precise detection,
Speaker 1: like detecting bombs or controversially detecting drugs. So, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: the use of drug sniffing dogs is very troubling, especially
Speaker 1: when it's used as a justification to do a search.
Speaker 1: So dog noses are indeed legendary, but what's also legendary
Speaker 1: is their desire to please their human. A dog's nose
Speaker 1: might be harder to trick than a dog's psychology, so
Speaker 1: a dog who knows it's human trainer wants it to
Speaker 1: signal on a drug will do so even if the
Speaker 1: drug is not there. So I am very skeptical of
Speaker 1: dogs being used to justify police searches, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that dogs noses aren't truly spectacular. So the earliest
Speaker 1: use of dogs in a modern medical context I could
Speaker 1: find was during World War One, when dogs were trained
Speaker 1: to be able to sniff out and find wounded soldiers.
Speaker 1: But in modern times, we're finding that dogs have a
Speaker 1: uncanny ability to pick up on the sense of things
Speaker 1: that lie below the surface. So dogs can be trained
Speaker 1: to alert if they smell something like an increase in
Speaker 1: isoprene in their owner's breath, which is a sign of
Speaker 1: blood sugar dipping. So interestingly, we can sometimes make the
Speaker 1: connection that a dog can smell or send something without
Speaker 1: even knowing what they're smelling until later. So we've observed
Speaker 1: that dogs can learn to alert to a hypoglycemic state,
Speaker 1: which is a drop in blood sugar. But it wasn't
Speaker 1: until twenty sixteen when researchers I and if I the
Speaker 1: possible signal the dogs were getting, which was the smell
Speaker 1: of the chemical isoprene on the breath of the person
Speaker 1: experiencing the hypoglycemic state. So it seems that our history
Speaker 1: of using dogs senses start with our observations that dogs
Speaker 1: seem to have an uncanny ability to detect something happening,
Speaker 1: and then we learned to how to cultivate that ability
Speaker 1: before we fully understand exactly what it is these dogs
Speaker 1: are sensing. So there are studies on dogs who spontaneously
Speaker 1: show awareness of an oncoming seizure in their owner. So
Speaker 1: they'll show things like hovering around their owner and staring
Speaker 1: at them before the seizure happens. So the dog may
Speaker 1: not know exactly what is happening, may not have any
Speaker 1: idea that its owner is in danger, but there maybe
Speaker 1: picking up on ascent and perhaps they've learned to associate
Speaker 1: that scent with what will come a disturbance in their
Speaker 1: owner's behavior. So imagine being a dog and you see
Speaker 1: your owner going through a seizure. That may be really
Speaker 1: distressing because you may sense that something's wrong, something's off,
Speaker 1: This is not your owner's typical behavior, and maybe it
Speaker 1: even picks up the distress on the distress that the
Speaker 1: owner is showing. So researchers are still trying to figure
Speaker 1: out exactly that what sent dogs pick up on when
Speaker 1: they detect a seizure and how they're picking up on
Speaker 1: it with respect to seizures. But we know they seem
Speaker 1: to be able to do this and they can be
Speaker 1: trained to really hone in on that skill. So a
Speaker 1: question that comes to mind is if dogs can pick
Speaker 1: up on the smells of cancers and seizures, why don't
Speaker 1: we just replace doctors with dogs. Why do we have
Speaker 1: to have biopsies when a dog could sniff out cancer.
Speaker 1: Why not have dogs constantly patrolling to catch cancer early.
Speaker 1: So the issue is, yet again not the accuracy of
Speaker 1: their noses, but the psychology of the dog. Just because
Speaker 1: the dog's nose is capable of sniffing something, the dog
Speaker 1: needs to be able to accurately alert when it does
Speaker 1: pick up the smell and not alert at a false
Speaker 1: alarm for it to really be useful as a diagnostic tool.
Speaker 1: But this may not always be in the dog's interest
Speaker 1: because the dog is not actually a medical device. It's
Speaker 1: a living creature with a mind of its own. So
Speaker 1: the dog wants praise, rewards and positive feedback from its trainer.
Speaker 1: And just like the problem with dogs alerting to drugs,
Speaker 1: the dog may basically want to alert even if there's
Speaker 1: nothing there because it craves that positive attention. So how
Speaker 1: do you prevent the dog from making false alerts to
Speaker 1: get praise. It's not really easy. You need basically to
Speaker 1: have a bunch of intermittent positive signals, so basically, people
Speaker 1: or things you know has the scent of this disease
Speaker 1: you're trying to find so that the dog can get
Speaker 1: this intermittent reward. But again, it's really difficult to basically
Speaker 1: set up the situation where the dog will always alert
Speaker 1: only when it is detecting the actual scent, especially in
Speaker 1: a real life scenario. So that is why we do
Speaker 1: not have doggie howser m D quite yet, but maybe
Speaker 1: we'll get there. So before we go, we have got
Speaker 1: to answer the mystery animal sound from last week. So
Speaker 1: the hint that I gave was don't be alarmed by
Speaker 1: this animal's name. It's called is purely platonic, warning you
Speaker 1: about an approaching leopard. So did you hear those wheezy squeaks?
Speaker 1: Can you guess who it is? Well? Congratulations to Jodie
Speaker 1: and Auntie B who guessed the dick Dick. So the
Speaker 1: dick Dick is a tiny antelope found in southern Africa.
Speaker 1: They act only way about eight pounds or about four ms.
Speaker 1: They are tiny, they are cute, and they're named the
Speaker 1: dick Dick because it is automatopeia for that squeaking alarm
Speaker 1: call you just heard. So they issue that sound through
Speaker 1: a long tubular snout, and that snout also works as
Speaker 1: an air conditioner, cooling blood as it circulates through the
Speaker 1: blood vessels surrounding the nasal cavity. So cute fact. When
Speaker 1: males try to defend their territory, they will dash at
Speaker 1: each other, stop and shake their heads before colliding, which
Speaker 1: is the world's cutest game of chick in. They will
Speaker 1: do this until one male gives up the game and
Speaker 1: goes home, just probably with an adorable look of dejection
Speaker 1: on its face. So onto this week's mystery animal call
Speaker 1: or so we just heard the alarm call of the
Speaker 1: dick Dick, But what is she so alarmed about? Well,
Speaker 1: it may be this critter, or at least once he's
Speaker 1: all grown up. So what is that some kind of alien?
Speaker 1: A robot? Well, if you think you know the answer,
Speaker 1: you can write into Creature feature Pot at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: I am also on the internet at Creature feature Pot
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Speaker 1: e e T, not f e e T. That is
Speaker 1: something very different. And thank you guys so much for
Speaker 1: listening to the show. Again. You can reach out to
Speaker 1: me if you have questions and I will try to
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