1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: From the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. Welcome 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. I'm Miles Simmons. I'm with DeMarco 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: far It is Wednesday, November eighth, about eleven fifteen Pacific time, 4 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: and the Rams are six and two November eighth, six 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: and two. Yeah, it's a little symmetry that I'm glad 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: you noticed that. I did not notice that at all. 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: But you know what, fifty two one, goodness gracious, fifty 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: one to seventeen victories over the New York Giants. And 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: I said fifty two because of course I'm looking at 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: my notes and says, first time reaching fifty points since 11 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: the fifty two to zero beat down of the Raiders 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: back in twenty fourteen. US Ever, yeah, it's up there, 13 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: beat the Raiders by himself. Yeah and that. But this 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: team right now is really really rolling, you know. Yeah, 15 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: five and ohing games away from the Coliseum. You're coming 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: back to the Coliseum in first place in the NFC 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: West by game. Thank you to Washington and Kirk Cousins 18 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: for beating Seattle. But yeah, I mean, it's it's nice 19 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: to be out in front, especially at the midway point 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: of the season. I'm just happy you finally beat Eli Manning. Yes, 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: the first thing that came to mind, finally you beat Eli. 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Isn't that interesting? You know? You beat him so bad 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: actually that now they're talking about starting Davis Webb a 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: little bit. Well, it's just crazy. If you're in New 25 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: York shitting you at this point, what's the point. I 26 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: don't know. That team setting in the wrong direction. I mean, 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: that's that's bad, It's real bad. I mean, did you 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: see what Ben McAdoo said when they asked him, would 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: you say that the team? I stopped listening. What did 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: he say? Um, that's what he said? Oh my god, 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: And then like pause for a few seconds, and then 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: they had to ask him another question. Because it's just 33 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: so sad for them because if they if they had 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior, if they had Brandon Marshall back out there, 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: that's a completely different offense, completely different football team. So, 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, injuries just they take their toll on football team. 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: For sure, they do. But at the same time, I mean, 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: and we don't need to talk about the Giants too long, 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I think when Eli man has 40 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: a starting streak of two hundred and seven games, that's 41 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: been going on since two thousand and four. To me, 42 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: that's tough to break that. Just to see Davis Webb, 43 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: who you and I looked at during when they were 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: going through pregame warm ups. Yeah, and you're watching him 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: go through this pregame workout and he does not look 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: to me that ready to start taking stuff. I always say, 47 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: start streak is one thing. What's your record during those starts? Okay, 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: and then we'll see what's going on down the road. 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I'm just pointing out that New 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: York is down right now. So and you're supposed to 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: beat teams like New York like you did on Sunday. 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe not fifty one points, but definitely when 53 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: you have the upper hand and you're the better football team, 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: you should dominate. I mean, I was talking to coach 55 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: mcbah the other day, what's it like to call plays 56 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: when everything's working, everything you're doing is working. I mean 57 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: a third and thirty third and thirty three goes for 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: fifty two yards and a touchdown and he's untouched. I mean, 59 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: what do you say to that guy when he comes 60 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: back to the bench. Great play, you know? Really, I 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: mean it's odd and then you know you have end 62 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: a rounds with Tavon Austin that gets fourteen yards down 63 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: the field before he's touched once. Yeah, that's great blocking, 64 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: that's great execution, and that's just poor defense on the 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: other side. It is, But it goes back to something 66 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: you said last week, which is what you said, coach 67 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Formil told you guys. You know, playoff teams winning teams 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: keep losing, teams losing. Yes, that's what the Rams did 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: on Let them continue on to where they're headed and 70 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: don't get in their way. They obviously want to lose today, 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: So just get out of their way. I mean, I'm serious. 72 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: Just get out of their way and do it. You're 73 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: not wrong, Yeah, and respect them and play as hard 74 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: as you can and don't hurt yourself. Six penalties not bad. 75 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Everything on offense is pretty much working. The only thing 76 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: that bothered me on Sunday was just the defense a 77 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: little okay. I mean well, I mean they ran the football. 78 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean they slammed it at you and they had 79 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: some success and Eli Manning Early put one in the 80 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: end zone on a long drive. I mean that's all 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: they had. That's their only chance they had it went in, 82 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: but there were some concerning moments from the Rams defense 83 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday for sure. I mean it was seven to 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: seven late in that first quarter, after Eli Manning drove 85 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: down the field and was able to do that, they 86 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: converted four or four third down on that drive. So 87 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: I think, if you're pointing, if you want to look 88 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: at something and say, okay, you had a fifty one 89 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: to seventeen victory, but where do you improve, it's exactly there. Yeah, 90 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: It's it's funny like playing defense, especially on a team 91 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: like this that has an offense that can score. And 92 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: everyone's happy with the record and fifty one points, but 93 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: when you really look at it and think Eli Manning 94 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: has some shots at you with some open guys that 95 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: he just missed, I agree. So flip that to this 96 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: week when you've got Hopkins and you've got Will Fuller 97 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: out there, and I think an improved Savage he's going 98 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: to play better than he did against Indianapolis. So some 99 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: of those and completions are overthrows are going to be 100 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: connections and possibly touchdowns. So a blowout game could turn 101 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: into a shootout like that. It can if you don't 102 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: make plays, and that's exactly what the Rams have to 103 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: continue to work on in order to continu you're improving. Um, 104 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: But I do want to talk about Jared Goff. Yeah, 105 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: because he's the NFC Offensive Player of the week. First 106 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: time a Rams quarterback has been NFC Offensive Player of 107 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: the Week since two thousand and seven. And who was 108 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback then, Mark Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah and Mark 109 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: Kurt Kurt was gone. Yeah right, But that's I mean, 110 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: he had basically a career day. What his young career is, 111 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: he's basically fifteen starts into it on how many completions? 112 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: I know. Also I'm getting fourteen of twenty two for 113 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: three hundred and eleven yards, four touchdowns and player of 114 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: the week one forty six point eight passer rating. Yeah, 115 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: I guess the Giants defense is the is the opposite. Yeah, 116 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: fourteen compa he is the player of the week, right, 117 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's twenty two yards per completion, it's 118 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: fourteen yards per attempts considered good at yards per attemph. 119 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,239 Speaker 1: He's seven eight elite and if you you got fourteen 120 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: in a game, well you hit the bomb to Sammy 121 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: and we that was a matter of time. I mean 122 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: they've been flirting with that for a while. You finally 123 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: hit one that was a great That was a great 124 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: play to see Robert was making plays that screen that went. 125 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, Jared had a great efficient day throwing the football. 126 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't much for him to do in 127 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: the pocket share great protection and fantastic protection, great protection, 128 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: get hit at all. According to Pro Football Focus, sometimes 129 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: he had to move around and just you know, find 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: an open window, but he wasn't really avoiding bodies and 131 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: guys were getting open. So yeah, I mean that player 132 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: of the week. I guess you can share with everybody 133 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: else on the field that was out there with him. Oh, 134 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: I would say so. But I think when you look 135 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: at what he's been doing, he's just really taking good 136 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: command of the offense, I think, and playing within himself 137 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: and within what McVay needs him to do in order 138 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: for this offense to be successful. McBay often talks about 139 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: managing the game and things like that, and I sort 140 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: of wonder sometimes when they go no huddle, like what 141 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: is McBay saying in his ear as Jared goff wine 142 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: up and the probably given him options of what the 143 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: coverage looks like and where the open guy might be yeah, yeah, 144 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: you know this, this might be dead, this might be open. 145 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: Watch this. I think they're gonna blitz and then you know, 146 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: the MIC's go dead. But I mean just just watching 147 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: him interact with Jared Goff, the head coach after big plays. Yeah, 148 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, shaking his hand, challenging him, you know, on 149 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: the on the deep ball. Sean McVeigh was the first 150 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: guy in the field to Jared Goff, giving him a 151 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: big high five, just congratulating good shot down the field. 152 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: I gave you a chance, let's see if you can 153 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: hit it, and you almost overthrew the guy. Yeah. When 154 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: have we talked about Jared Goff and arm strength. It's 155 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: been a while it has and you almost overthrew one 156 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: of the fastest guys in the league. Yes, yeah, he's 157 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: got an arm and he's starting to show it off. 158 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: I think that all it's all coming because of the confidence. 159 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: I think so too. Um, that's funny. You saved that 160 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: that pass that was connected between Goff and Walkins. If 161 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: you look at NFL next Gin stats that they've got 162 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: on the website, there whatever, they saved that. That's the 163 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: longest pleaded passed through the air this season. Sixty one 164 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: point eight yards. That's leveled through the air off to Watkins. 165 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: That's the longest pass they've completed. I was on the 166 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage when he let it go, so it's 167 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: going away from me, and I swear from my angle 168 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: it looked like he was throwing it out of the stadium. 169 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: That's how high and as far as Yeah, it's like, wow, 170 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: is he going to catch that? And he ran under 171 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: it and caught it. It It was just amazing play. So 172 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: when you can start adding plays like that to your resume, 173 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: to your tape, your opponent tape, well, I mean there's 174 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: almost nothing you can call exactly. The screen game is 175 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: killing you, the run game is killing you, the short 176 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: passing game is almost one point. And then you start 177 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: adding that to your offense. I mean that makes you 178 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: one of the elite teams. It absolutely does. And that's 179 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: why this this Ram's offense right now is so hard 180 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: to stop because you have all these different options. The 181 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: one thing I noticed looking at that play on the 182 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: All twenty two angle was that it seemed like Landon 183 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: Collins and Dominique Rodgers Crimardi both looked at Cooper Cup 184 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: coming across, and that sort of intermediate deep draft. Yeah, 185 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: and it looked like they were focusing in on him 186 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to Sammy Watkins going past. Now that's an 187 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: it's a blown coverage anytime you let somebody get fined 188 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: away behind you in a way. Yes, this is so funny. 189 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: We were just having this discussion. I was talking to Marshall, 190 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: talking to Isaac Bruce and Tory Holt, and I realized 191 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: that masters of offense, Hall of Fame offensive guys are 192 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: actually masters of defense. Well, you've got one as a 193 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: head coach, so he knows the scheme. He can tell 194 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: coverage just like any quarterback in the league. So if 195 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: you're showing this coverage, you better get there because if not, 196 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: he's going to test you. And I think that's exactly 197 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: what happened. Landing Collins is an all pro. Sometimes you know, 198 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: he'll take bad angles, he'll see something and go off instinct. Well, 199 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: he's going to test you on those type of plays 200 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: and wrong spot twice, yeah, and got caught twice for touchdowns. Yeah. 201 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: And I but that's what I mean because a lot 202 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: of the time, I feel like golf has gone to 203 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: that sort of intermediate type route that Up was running. 204 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: Instead of this sort of deep shot to Sammy Watkins. 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: And so maybe I think based on tendencies and whatnot, 206 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: that's probably what Landon Collins was going off of instinct 207 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: and doing, saying Okay, I'm gonna go to cut I 208 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: can see this, yeah yeah, and instead pull the ball 209 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: goes to Sammy Watkins and you know you've got a 210 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: sixty seven yard time. You've caught Earl Thomas like that. 211 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 1: You didn't catch it right, you caught him like yes, 212 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: where he starts to see something and well, you got 213 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: to remember Sean McVeigh is watching, and he knows what 214 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: coverage just supposed, what's your responsibilities are supposed to be, 215 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: and what you're doing or two different things. So he's 216 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: hit a couple of players like that, and I expect more. Um, 217 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: it's damned if you do. Damned if you don't. Against 218 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: this offense. It is. And that's because you've got so 219 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: so many different weapons. Oh yeah, I heard a funny story. 220 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: This is way way way back nineteen ninety nine when 221 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: Trent Green was still our quarterback in preseason. This is 222 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: when Mike Martz was coaching Trent Green through Kurt Warner. 223 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: So Kurt couldn't do anything right. Right, So Trent sees 224 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: cover two throws like a little checkdown pass right, good play, Trent. Yeah, 225 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Kurt sees the same thing, throws a check down. Why 226 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: don't you throw the post? So kurtse like, um, it's 227 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: there's a safety there. I'm not supposed to throw the 228 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: post in this coverage. You see that guy back there, 229 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: he's a safety. If he could cover, he'd be a corner. 230 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: That's his mentality. I don't care what the responsibilities are. 231 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: Take the shot. So I think you're starting to see 232 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: some of that here now with Jared Goff and Sean McVay. 233 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: Challenge yourselves to be better and be better than what 234 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: other people are doing. I think you notice that during 235 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: that game where there were some times where he took 236 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: more of a risk, took more of a shot than 237 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: he has sort of in the past leading up to 238 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: this game. I mean, a couple of third downs I 239 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: can I feel like I was watching and you can 240 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: see Gurley kind of come open and the checkdown, and 241 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: instead Goff was like, you know what, I'm going to 242 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: take this shot this time. And I think part of 243 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: that may have to do with the lead the Rams 244 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: had most of the game. You know, you also are 245 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: talking about the quality of the opponent that you're playing 246 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: and think they clearly were not playing well in that game, right, So, 247 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's the point I mean, yeah, 248 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: he's the point guard at some point, like there was 249 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: a shot where he tossed it towards Cooper Cup and 250 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: had he caught it, he's still out of the back 251 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: of the end zone. Yeah, it's still going to be incomplete. 252 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: But you had Todd Gurley underneath. Yes, that's that's what 253 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm referring. He's the point guard. You know, Hey, look, 254 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: I thought the guy had a hothand I'm giving him 255 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: a shot. We'll have another opportunity that could be a 256 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: product of a guy that's growing in this offense. You know, 257 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: I thought I saw something, Let me take a shot 258 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: at it. But next time we'll hit this here. Yeah, 259 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: and I think that's fine, especially as you grow as 260 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: a young quarterback, that that's what you want to see. 261 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: You want to see him continue to take those steps 262 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: because the last thing you want is a captain check 263 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: down moniker, right, you know, yeah, even if you're protecting 264 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: the ball and when you have to take shots because 265 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: to quote another NFC West coach, you gotta risk it 266 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: to get the biscuit. Absolutely, Brett Farve. I mean by 267 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: this coverage that we're rolling out against far if he 268 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: can't get the ball here, ball, snap, there's the ball. 269 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Right, Yeah, he doesn't care 270 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 1: what you're what you're what you're playing, and what your 271 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: coverage is. If he thinks he can get it there 272 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: or his guys hot, he's going to give it an opportunity. Right. So. 273 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: One of the other interesting things about Jared Goff this 274 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: weekend is that he and Carson Wentz actually became the 275 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: first quarterbacks pick number one and number two overall in 276 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: the same draft to ever toss for four touchdowns in 277 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: the same weekend. Is that interesting? What does that have 278 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: to do with Sunday? It doesn't have much to do 279 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: with then I bring out that sort of step. No, 280 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. What do you mean, what does 281 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: that have to do with Sunday? It's a stat that 282 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: comes from Sunday? Am I wrong? Matt All Now, and 283 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean they're on top two offenses in the league 284 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: right now. Okay, that's fair. I like that one better. Yeah, 285 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: we're good. Thank Thank you, producer for understanding my mind 286 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: and understanding what I was doing. Okay, because you have 287 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: right now these top two quarterbacks who are making their 288 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: team look really good, for making these trades because the 289 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: Eagles are Yeah, thank you for saying nice. We don't 290 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: have the Eagles this week. So why are we talking 291 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz Because it's an interesting storyline that is 292 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: going on around the league? Okay? Is that? Is that 293 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: all right with you? I am one game at a time. 294 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: I just think I think it's interesting right now that 295 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: you have these two quarterbacks at the midway point of 296 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: the season, that we're actually midway through it now, not 297 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: quite this would actually be mid season. Yes, this would 298 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: be mid season because we've we've gone through eight games. 299 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: But I mean, look when you look at the Rams 300 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: and the Eagles, this is people keep talking about it, 301 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: and I think it's true. At this point, you have 302 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: this collision course right now for um December the test 303 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: where Houston Teas Gotson right up at quarterback for the 304 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. No, I see, Tom Savage, where are we 305 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: talking about Carson Wentz. We're talking about the time and 306 00:14:54,360 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: the Eagles. I know it's at a time thank you Texans. Anyway, 307 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: go ahead, really all that work you just did, I 308 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: know I have so many read your stuff. Go ahead, 309 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: well now read your numbers. You'd just be quiet over 310 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: you may just have this discussion with Matt. Matt, do 311 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: you want to talk about this is interesting thing that 312 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: I think is interesting in general? The what is it? 313 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: The twenty sixteen quarterback classes leading like so Golf Wentz 314 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,359 Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott are three of the top five quarterbacks 315 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: and leading the QBR right now, yes, ye, yes, yes, 316 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: And it's very interesting because you have these teams right 317 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: good for the GMS, especially down there in Dallas where 318 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: you pick Dak Prescott in the fourth round instead of 319 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: packs and lunch like Jerry Jones. One. But the point 320 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make yours. Look, you've got the Rams 321 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: and Eagles point differential. Rams are plus one oh eight, 322 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: Eagles are plus one oh four one two scoring Rams 323 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: thirty two point nine points per game, Eagles thirty one 324 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: point four points per game. One two you have yards, 325 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Eagle rams are three, Eagles are five third downs. Ellie's 326 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: number one, Eagles number two. Like like I'm saying, this 327 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: is a mid season it's kind of a collision course. 328 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: Even listen, the longest pass right golf. I just told 329 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: you it's sixty one point eight yards per NFL next 330 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Gen Stats. Carson went sixty one point two. It's just 331 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to see how these two guys have 332 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: grown into being who they are midway through their second year. 333 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: And it's even more interesting because we're going to see 334 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: these two teams square off in another month. There. If 335 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: you mentioned that the Rams surpassed their twenty sixteen point total, yeah, yeah, 336 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: see that's interesting. Yes, yeah, that's yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, 337 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: it is a great point because you look, I mean, 338 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: anytime you're talking about a team surpassing their point total, 339 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: like midway through the season, I think it was either 340 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: the second or third touchdown or maybe the gregs air 341 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Lines field goal where that actually happened. Yeah, during the game. 342 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: And it's both sides. I mean, this offense is scoring, 343 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: that's great, and the other one just wasn't. Right. It 344 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: really underscores how bad that often that offense ones last year. Right, 345 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this off this is great and it's getting better. 346 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: But wow, I mean, midway through a season and you've 347 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: already outscored the other team. That's that's crazy. Yeah, And 348 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: this comes from NFL research. Apparently the Rams are on 349 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: pace to become the first team in NFL history to 350 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: go from worst scoring offense at fourteen points per game 351 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: last year in one season to the best scoring offense, which, 352 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: as I just said, thirty two point nine points per 353 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: game in the next. Wow. So they're eighteen point nine 354 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: points per game improvement over last season is also the 355 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: largest in NFL history. And you, I don't think you've 356 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: scratched the surface yet this I don't either, because there 357 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: were more points. Yeah, you could have scored. You left, 358 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: you left some on the table. There's a lot left. Yeah. 359 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: And you took your foot off the gas in New York, 360 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: oh for sure. Yeah, because basically the starters were out 361 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: by the fourth quarter. Yes, which is cool. I thought 362 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: that was the coolest thing. You get more breaks as 363 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: you go on, and you get some young guys, some 364 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: reps which will help you down the road. So I 365 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: mean smart use of a blowout, smart use of mop 366 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: up time by this coaching style. I agree. Yeah. Yeah, 367 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: you got in Malcolm on for some carries. And it's funny. 368 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: I told you this before the game, but I said, 369 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: I want to see Malcolm Brown get like fifty yards 370 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: and he did, Yeah, fifty seven, I believe. Huh, yeah, 371 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: let's make yeah fifty seven on fifteen carries running back. 372 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: That's exactly what you want out of in this kind 373 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: of game, where you beat him down like that, you 374 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: get in some of those younger players, you get your 375 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: starting quarterback out of the game, and you get as 376 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: many alignment as you can out of the game. We 377 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: were first, yes, Wentworth and Sullivan were out and unfortunately, Yeah, 378 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Roger Saple's got to stay in. That's okay because you 379 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: only have seven. I don't think he wants to come 380 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: out anywhere. He might not. You know what, if you're 381 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: if you're playing at this level and as the Rams are, 382 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: and your the longest tenured Ram, heck like, live it up, man, 383 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely have some fun with it. Enjoy it. Yeah, you've 384 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: you've been out there long enough when it's been lopsided 385 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: the other way. Yes, enjoy this time and it's funny. 386 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: I was talking to a couple guys after the game, 387 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: True Johnson and Alcobo Tree, and True was the first 388 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: one to bring this up to me, said that the 389 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: Rams are still feeling like they're on dogs. We're still playing, 390 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: we're still preparing, We're going about our business with an 391 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: underdog mentality. Yeah. And I follow up him was like, 392 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: is that because of everything that you've been through in 393 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: the past, And he said for sure, because yeah. I 394 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: was gonna ask you, like, do you feel like you 395 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: guys could relate to that going through nineteen ninety nine. Well, yeah, 396 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean you still think hard times is right around 397 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: the corner, right. Um, you're playing well and you believe 398 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: it as a football team, I mean, you have the 399 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: energy and you believe every single Sunday that you're going 400 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: to come away with a victory, but you're always worried 401 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: it could go back to what you're what you've been 402 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: going through, or the offense just stop scoring and you know, 403 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: it becomes a defensive you know, grind on you and 404 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: you have to play ninety snaps just to stay in 405 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: the football game. Yeah, it's guys on that side of 406 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: the football are that have been here for that long 407 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: are never going to be comfortable. And that's what makes 408 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: a season like this so special because you're hungry and 409 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: you're good. At the same time. When you start talking 410 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: about teams that have been to the postseason year and 411 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: a year out, possibly a super Bowl and whatnot, it 412 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: becomes old hat to them. Their hunger goes. You're a 413 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: good football team, you know how to win, you know 414 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: what it's like to be there, but you don't have 415 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: that hunger to be the best or not to be 416 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: the worst football team. So that's what makes except for 417 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots, but that's what makes this so special. That's 418 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: just different. I mean, that's like the bulls. I mean 419 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: they're hungry because they're chasing history. Yeah yeah, not just 420 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: one year. I mean, this is something for the history 421 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: books and beyond. That's them. But I see what you're saying, though, 422 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: These one year wonders are these football teams that are 423 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: just catching fire for that football season. They make them dangerous, 424 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: they make them faster, they make them better just because 425 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: of that hunger. Well you saw I don't know if 426 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: you saw this, but today as we speak, then Monday morning, 427 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: Quarterback Sports Illustrated came out with like super Bowl, midseason predictions, 428 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: playoff predictions, super Bowl predictions, and you know, not to 429 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: look too far ahead. I know the Texans are this 430 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: week and we're going to get to the Texans and 431 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: I believe in the one game out of time in philosophy, 432 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's why the Rams have been successful 433 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: when you're talking about Carson Wentz. But just saying I 434 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: thought it was an interesting topic. All right, go ahead, 435 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: something it is. It's very interesting. Some things flop, some 436 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: things are successful. I thought it was great. Matt loved it, 437 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: did you, Matt? I'm here for you, but see you 438 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: love thank you right there? Yeah. But I say all 439 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: that preamble stuff to bring up the fact that Peter 440 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: King picked the Rams to win the Super Bowl over 441 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: the Patriots? Did he really? Yes? Which is funny. I mean, like, yeah, 442 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: good for him, because right, And it's like, okay, that's 443 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,239 Speaker 1: that's nice and that's interesting. But on the other it 444 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: makes me want to go all Jim Mora. You know, playoffs, playoffs. 445 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: Someone said that to me on Monday, and I looked 446 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: at them kind of cross syded. What playoffs? No, They 447 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: said super Bowl, and I'm you've You've got the Texans 448 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah. But then he asked me like, okay, 449 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: who are your other teams in the NFC? And I 450 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: started to think, well, you know what they are in 451 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: the mix right now? Yeah, I mean the best, They 452 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: have the best point differential in the NFL. They sort 453 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: of have to get actually a valid mix. It's a 454 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: valid point, but is I mean you're getting too far ahead. 455 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: You still have to beat the text absolutely like this again, 456 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: this is a team that has not gone eight and 457 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: eight right since you know, yeah, ten years ago, more 458 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: than that two thousand and six. The Texans are the 459 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 1: perfect team or the perfect example of how your season 460 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: outlook can change in an instant, no point in looking 461 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,479 Speaker 1: past December or even next week. At this point, I agree, right, 462 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: because right, I mean, you lose your quarterback and then 463 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: things start to look incredibly different than they once did, right, exactly. 464 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: Um So, anyway, we'll talk more about the Texans in 465 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: a second, but I do want to get back to 466 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: what was going on in the last game, especially with 467 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: Woods and Watkins. I think, do you think Buffalo wants 468 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: them back? Buffalo, Tyrod Taylor wouldn't mind having them back. 469 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they did just get Benjamin from Panthers and 470 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: obviously been I think Benjamin's a good wide receiver. But 471 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: you know, when you have a guy like Robert Woods, 472 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: who I think he's been outstanding all year, you know, 473 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: on the field and off it. You can see the 474 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: leadership he brings to that wide receiver's room, which is 475 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 1: something that they kind of really did not have before 476 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: with the guy that is now elsewhere. But you have him, 477 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: and you see that he can put on the jets 478 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: like he does on that third and thirty three. Yeah, yeah, 479 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of special, man. I mean a 480 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: lane to the end zone and he absolutely took it. 481 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: Great blocking down the field, yes, by all his teammates, 482 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins at the top, Pancas blocks, but he sets 483 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: the standard, and like Andrew Whitworth sets the standard when 484 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: a guy that's has that many years in the league. 485 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: And Robert Wood same thing, who's a veteran, and you 486 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: see him working as hard without the ball as he 487 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: does with it. So if you're a guy behind him 488 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: or on the field with him, the standard is set. 489 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: If you're not playing to his speed, it's gonna show. Yep. 490 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: Same thing with Whitworth, if you're not covering down the 491 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: field after the ball is released, it's going to show 492 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: because he's going to every single play. So I like 493 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: guys like that, the pace setters that are they expect 494 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: you to get with them. And they're also great players 495 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: to boot. Yes, Um, he has every right to be 496 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: a diva, but he's not. He just wants to win. Um. 497 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: When you see Todd Gurley getting the end zone, or 498 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: Tavon or Sammy Watkins, anybody else getting the end zone, 499 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: the first guy over there is going to be Robert Woods. True. Yeah, 500 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: the next guy probably Whitworth. They're just excited about seeing 501 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: their team win. It's all about one thing, and that's 502 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: the w UM. You don't see that with other teams. 503 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: You don't see that a lot with other teams. UM 504 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: guys will score and the entire offense will just turn 505 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: their back on him and walk to the sideline. It 506 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: must be something going on in the locker room. But 507 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: Robert Woods is his attitude is infectious. It seems like 508 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: he just wants everybody to get some that day. Yeah, 509 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: and that's that's that tone setting I think is really important. 510 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: I think you're saying about the rum blocking especially that's 511 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: what happened on that third and thirty three for the 512 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: fifty two yard touchdown. You get Andrew Whitworth and Roger 513 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: Saffold releasing and they go and then they start getting 514 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: the downfield guys. Then talking to Robert Woods after the game, 515 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: he said, you see those blocks, and then you're like, oh, 516 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: all right, I got this lane inside because you've got 517 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: Roger Saffold and Andrew Whitworth doing their job on the 518 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: first level right, and then all of a sudden, like 519 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: if that lane opens, boy, you're moving. And I think 520 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: it's great. You pointed out that the pancake block from 521 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins at the line. I mean, Matt, you know, and 522 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: and I were doing all twenty two yesterday and Matt 523 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: actually pointed it out to me because I hadn't seen 524 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: it at first. And when you see that, you realize 525 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: that's why that touchdown happened, because if Sammy Watkins doesn't 526 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: get that pancake block, then he's gonna have that corner, 527 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: is gonna have a chance to make the play close 528 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: or to send it back to his help. Yeah, exactly. 529 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: So now you've got open field and he can just 530 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: turn on the jets. I think the Rams might be 531 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: the best screen team in the league. And I mean 532 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: that's after years and years and years of the screens 533 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: not being able to work at all, but just when 534 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: it's called, how they execute and the guys that are 535 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: coming out and getting out in front. I think they 536 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: do a tremendous job. And if you go back to 537 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: that third and thirty three that scored, I mean he 538 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: actually called three screens on that drive. Two got called back, 539 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: but he's not giving up on it. He's coming right 540 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: back to it again and bang it worked. Yeah. Well, 541 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: the great thing about that play is Robert Woods got 542 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 1: to I think twenty some miles an hour. Did he 543 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: really yes? On that? So the Rams had three of 544 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: the fastest times of al of players running. I just 545 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: messed that up, But the Rams had three of the 546 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: fastest times a players running in the league over this 547 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: last week. So it was on that particularly touchdown Robert 548 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: Woods got over twenty miles an hour, Sammy Watkins got 549 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: over twenty miles an hour on his sixty seven yard touchdown, 550 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: and Todd Gurley also got over twenty miles an hour 551 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: on his thirty six yard You know what that makes 552 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: me think? New York may not win a game for 553 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the year. Three of the fastest guys 554 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: in the league that week we're against you. Yeah, without 555 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: Cody Davis. Without Cody Davis, Davis, you know is on 556 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: I no but he is one of the fastest players 557 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: in the league. He's consistently over Don't you ever suspend 558 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: Genoras Jenkins again, I don't care what he does and 559 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: never supposed to be back this week. Good good, But yeah, 560 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: so you have that. And also apparently Pharrell Cooper was 561 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: also up there on the punt return that got called back. Man, 562 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: I love his role and I love how he's accepted 563 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: that role. Um. His punt return ability phenomenal, it really is, 564 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: and he can take a pop. I thought the best 565 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: play and it wasn't the reverse field punt return or 566 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: the one that got called back. I'm used to seeing 567 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: good punt returns, the one where it's kind of dangling 568 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: in front and he has to make a decision on 569 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: the ball when he's backed up, and he let it 570 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: go an instantly started the block and got the touchback. 571 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: That is smart punt return. Yes, that's brilliant. Yeah, yeah, 572 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: that's that's a guy's getting better. Yeah, that's a guy 573 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: getting better, you know what. I think one of the 574 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: sort of underratable maybe blessings in disguise of this season 575 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: has maybe been Taylon Austin struggles with the punt returns 576 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: could be. So you get Pharaoh Cooper in that role 577 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: because he's really excelled in it, and Tavan gets an 578 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: expanded role in the offense. Yeah, and he's excelled in that. Yes, Yeah, 579 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: so it worked. Another good coaching move. See, little things 580 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: like that make you a genius as a head coach. Yeah. 581 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: But I mean at a certain point, I think the 582 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: genius aspect of it might have been putting Pharaoh Cooper 583 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: back there instead of just Cooper Cup to just wave 584 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: his hand and catch him. But it makes makes you smart. 585 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: It does make you smart. All you did was sit 586 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: one guy down here, and you had you had to 587 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: because you couldn't keep muffing punts and bringing up offensive possessions. 588 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: But I understand what you're saying there. Thank you. You're welcome. 589 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: Any more next gen stats you want to throw at me, 590 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think that I thought that 591 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: was interesting too. It is no roasting all the nice 592 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: things I wanted to talk about all the I'm not 593 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: roasted for all the draftnicks it is building up to. 594 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's going to be Goff versus Wins, and 595 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: I hope that the Rams do their part getting through 596 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: this Sunday and moving on to get to that match. Absolutely. Yeah, 597 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: I'm hoping Philadelphia doesn't. Sure, Yeah, I hope they fall apart. 598 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: J jb Along Voice of the Rams and our friend 599 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: always tweets this. Every NFC loss helps, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, 600 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: because I like the Seahawks losing last week. You know, 601 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Washington wins, but Seahawks being in the division, that loss, 602 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: that does help you. How they lost, Yeah, you know 603 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: they had a lead, yes, and their defense gave it up. 604 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: The guess who helped Brian Quick thirty one yard catch 605 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. I didn't know he did that. He 606 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: helped Yeah, on that last drive. I didn't know that, 607 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: I see because remember were obviously we were on the 608 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: plane coming back six hours from New York, so I'm 609 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: following this thing on Twitter. But I did know is 610 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: that Matt your dude TCU horned frog. Josh Dotson made 611 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: a big catch down there. They was right after Quicks. Oh, 612 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: wasn't Quick hit him for thirty one and then Dotson 613 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: hit him for thirty seven? Yeah, one yard line and 614 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: they were even looking at it to see if he 615 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: even got touched and rolled into the endzine right and 616 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: that's on a championship level defense. Yeah, with a lead, right, 617 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: and they took it from him. That's that's a big 618 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: win for Washington. Yeah, absolutely a huge one for them. 619 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: Apparently they do well against teams from the West Coast 620 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: and against the Rams, the Seahawks and the forty nine ers. 621 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: But for Summers, hasn't beat anybody in and out Burger. 622 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: That's all I can say. I don't know either. One 623 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: other guy do you want to talk about on the 624 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: offense though, Is Gerald Everett? Yea, because the way the 625 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: Rams are using him right now is so exciting to 626 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: me because he is a tight end that he is 627 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: basically just the Swiss army knife, and anywhere Sean McVay 628 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: wants to put him, he can put him, and he 629 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: can make a play. I had fun another draft Nick thing, 630 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram on that side New York and then Gerald 631 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: Everett on this side. I mean, when you talk about 632 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: the draft, you talked about those two guys who was 633 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: going first, and you see their ability, you do. They're 634 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: both problems for defense their matchup night Mayors, but for 635 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: completely different reasons. One guy pure speed, that's Evan Ingram. 636 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: Gerald Everett can do anything, anything, anything from anywhere. So 637 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: even if you've got the right guy over the top 638 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: of him covering him, well, you're not sure what he's 639 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: gonna do. Right, he can actually rush the football. Now, Yes, 640 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: we're seeing new things out of him. So at some 641 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: point he'll probably be the focal point of the offense 642 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: for the day. Yes, yeah, at some point, possibly coming Sunday. 643 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: Maybe when you think about matchups and how this offense 644 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: is flowing and the plays that they're going to run 645 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: counters off of, he's going to be the guy that 646 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: has several big plays in a game, right, And that's, 647 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: to me is one of the most exciting things because 648 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: you saw whether it was in the first quarter, second quarter, 649 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: I can't quite recall, but it was in the first 650 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: half when I think it was third down in six 651 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: and Jared buff kind of comes to the line and 652 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: don't necessarily quick snap it, but they snapped that ball 653 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: if they think nineteen seconds left on the playclock, and 654 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: from there you're sort of running a bench concept. I 655 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: think it was Robert Woods who runs the out and 656 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: you've got Joe Everett just going down the field on 657 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: the nine route and Jared Goff hits him and Everett 658 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: makes a really good catch, secures the ball, make sure 659 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: he keeps two hands on it as we try to 660 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: rip it out from him, and goes out of bounds, 661 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: and then he sets up a touchdown. And that to me, 662 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: I love that first of all, because you can line 663 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: him up on the outside and he can still be effective. 664 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: And then in the third quarter he takes a jet sweep, 665 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: a tight end jet sweep. I mean, how often do 666 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: you see that? That is beautiful to me. I think 667 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey might be the only other one Delaney Walker 668 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: Walker has done. Yeah, he's a fourth toe tight end guy, 669 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: Vernon Davis. Maybe in the past, Davis, I mean, I 670 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: would have to go back and look. I bet they 671 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: did run that. There's some fast guys that I mean, 672 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: but not every tight end can do that. Not every 673 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: player can do that, right, Um, So that speaks to 674 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: his versatility. And then when you're going just a little 675 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: bit faster, you're affecting communication of the defense. So even 676 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: if I have the right personnel group, we don't have 677 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: time to communicate because the ball just got snapped. Yes, 678 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: and then away goes Gerald Everett. Yes. Yeah, So it 679 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: makes you play catch up two guys that are already 680 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: faster than you, right, And that's why I think, you know, 681 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: at some point I would not be surprised to see 682 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: Gerald Everett like line up in the backfield and take 683 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: a read option from jerk Off because who knows, or 684 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: throw it. Yeah, yeah, right, I'm just kidding. But you 685 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: get that. You know, that little inside tight end stuff 686 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: that they do with the shovel pass, it's a lot 687 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: of it. Nickvay has even said that he looks at 688 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: other teams, and you know, he takes things from around 689 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: the league. Nothing in this league really is that it is. 690 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: It's absolutely a copycat league. And we talked about this before. 691 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: I think the fifty three yard touchdown that Todd Gurley 692 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: had against Dallas basically took that from Kansas City against 693 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: New England in Week one where they threw it to 694 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt down the field. But you also see that 695 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City playbook comes in with the Gerald Everett stuff sometimes, because, 696 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: like I said, when you get the Travis Kelcey on 697 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: the jet sweep scene, that the inside shovel pass to 698 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 1: Gerald Everett also seen that to Travis Kelsey. And I 699 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: think it's interesting that McVeagh sees so much of I 700 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: guess his personnel groupings from the rams that can take 701 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: advantage of those kinds of plays from different different spots. Well, 702 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: he's on the cutting net. I mean, it seems like 703 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: everybody in the NFL. It seems like pick routes are 704 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: in vogue, picks and rub routes. Definitely, everything is coming 705 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 1: off an intersection and defenders are colliding with each other 706 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: and with other offensive players, which gets a guy wide open. 707 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: Remember with Adam Gase and with the Broncos before they 708 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: went to he and John Fox went to the Bears. 709 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: That was a lot of that, the pick routes and 710 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: everything getting in vogue in that way. I think the NFL, 711 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: the way it's going and the rules that favor the offense, 712 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: have allowed more of that to go on. Now they're 713 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: trying to police it. The offensive passion afference calls. Yes, 714 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: you have to be on time with the throw, but 715 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: I think coaches and coordinators offensive guys have mastered that now. 716 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: And really, as a defensive person, I'd love to have 717 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: this conversation with Wade Phillips. I don't think there's any 718 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: way around it, right, And if you're in man coverage, 719 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: or even in zone. These picks and rubs and how 720 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: they're getting away with it, and the guys that are 721 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: using tight end with a running back, tight end with 722 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: a receiver, running back with a receiver, and how they're 723 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: getting to these picks and rubs has been phenomenal. But 724 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 1: as long as your quarterback gets the ball out on 725 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: time in an advantageous spot, there's almost nothing you can 726 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: do as a defender but make the tackle. Right, you're 727 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: not making a play on the ball, you're not going 728 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: to be anywhere near it. But that's why tackling is 729 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: so important. And I think we've seen the Rams get 730 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: better in that way that they are sort of defending 731 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: these things. I think about Mark barn thing about alec 732 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: Ogletree in particular. When you have guys that are in 733 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: man coverage on the running back and they get the 734 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: thing out quickly from the quarterback's hand to the running 735 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: back and you're in the flat like that's it's hard 736 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: to do. You've got to be able to run and 737 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: make those tackles. And that's another guy fifty two point 738 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: him out. He was playing like gangbusters. Oh yeah, yeah, 739 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean not just making plays, which he did, but 740 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: just ruining offensive lineman like actually taking guys on at 741 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: the point of attack and shedding and disengaging. So he's 742 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: getting more stout at the point of attack, like understanding 743 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do against you now, So he's 744 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: getting better. And Mark Barron has been frenetic. He's everywhere now, 745 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: he's everywhere. So as long as you have a lead, 746 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: this defense will be at their best. When you don't 747 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: and teams start to come at you and just run 748 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: straight ahead, I think that's when you're gonna have when 749 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: it's zero zero or seven seven. Yes, this is where 750 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have problems. Yeah, it is. And that's what 751 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: the Rams have to death. You can't take it away, right, Yeah, 752 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: if you can't take it away. They did though, take 753 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: it away against New York. They had three takeaways in 754 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: the first half which led to seventeen points. And boy, 755 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: if the offense and defense are working in tandem like that, 756 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: you're going to win most games. Oh man, I've watched 757 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: that Aaron Donald sack about one hundred times, and you 758 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: could watch it one hundred more, couldn't you. Yes, I 759 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: told the guys we were on break, or actually I 760 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: wasn't on air. I was listening to JB and Maurice, 761 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: and I told Julio, who I'm talking to most of 762 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: the time, I said, look our producer. I said, if 763 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: if Eli lines up in shotgun, this is going to 764 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,879 Speaker 1: be a sack. I said this. Two seconds later Sack 765 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: caused fumble. Yeah, there's no way you can block Aaron 766 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: Donald one on one in a passing situation. When you 767 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: go shotgun, you're forcing that guy to have to block 768 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. So that is also on tape. And this 769 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: is what I told Sean McVay. Still with that, you 770 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: still can't take him away. At some point you're gonna 771 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: have to go one on one with Aaron Donald. Yeah, 772 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: unless you want to start sliding people towards him, which 773 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: opens yourself up for backside blissings. Yes, he is the 774 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: best defensive weapon in the game, hands down. You can't 775 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: take him away. You can't, Yeah, stout because and he 776 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: affects every single play because he's on the line of scrimmage. Yeah, 777 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: he'll dominate this Sunday. I'd be surprised if he didn't. Yeah. Yeah, 778 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Texans game plan is going 779 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: to change a little bit. Um It looked like somebody 780 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: had hit the pause button on the offense. It's the 781 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: same stuff, just a little bit slower, and they've lost 782 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: their ability to create when things break down. When you're 783 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: in practice Wednesday and Thursday, you're practicing for the best 784 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 1: case scenario, everything's in rhythm. You know, you snap, you 785 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: drop back, you throw it, everything's on rhythm. Well, in 786 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: a game, it's going to be different. Guys are coming 787 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 1: at your quarterback's going to have to move and can 788 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: you stay in that play. Well, Deshaun Watson was killing 789 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: people with that right. He was a master of getting 790 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: out of the play and back into it, keeping his 791 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 1: heads up, getting the ball down the field. Well, that's 792 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: going to change a little bit. So I would imagine 793 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: they're still going to try to run their same stuff 794 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: just a little bit faster, which means you're going to 795 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: have to expect your guards to hold up against Aaron 796 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: Donald and ain't gonna happen. It's well, it's very hot, 797 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: it's not going to happen. And the other thing about 798 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: Tom Savage that I noticed at least is that when 799 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: he was playing with a clean pocket, and not only 800 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: clean pocket, but he had the sight lines. Yeah, against Indianapolis, 801 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: then he was able to make the strong accurate fourth quarter, 802 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: he was pretty good, Yes, he was. He finally kind 803 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: of got into that rhythm, especially as they were going 804 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: no huddle down the field. But if things get muddy, 805 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: because he is not as mobile quarterback as Deshaun Watson, 806 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: and if you can get him into those kinds of 807 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: situations where your hands up and you got bodies all 808 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: around him, it's gonna be tough for him to throw. True. 809 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: Like I would say this, one guy getting to win 810 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: in the middle in a pass rush against Deshaun Watson, 811 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: I'd still take the Texans because he's gonna make that 812 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: guy miss. Yeah, you can't, especially if he has space 813 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: and still get get back into the play. Now, one 814 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: guy getting free to the middle against Savage plays dead right. Yeah. 815 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: He just doesn't have the mobility the athleticism of a 816 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. So that opens you up. And you can 817 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: even tell with Indianapolis man. I mean, if you go 818 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 1: back and watch other teams try to rush Watson, you 819 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 1: have to rush with some control because he could wind 820 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: up anywhere on the play. Well, when they didn't have that, 821 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: Indianapolis just pent theirs back and went right. Sheard had 822 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: two sacks. Yeah, I mean just absolutely became a pass rusher. 823 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: So imagine the Rams and how we feel about them 824 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: just becoming pass rushers on the day and not having 825 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: to worry about anybody escaping. That's gonna be dangerous for 826 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: any It is, absolutely, and that's why the Rams work 827 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: so well when they get a lead and they can 828 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: keep a lead. I mean we talked about this, I 829 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 1: believe going back to that Jacksonville game. Yeah, where you say, 830 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: all right, look, if you get a lead on Jacksonville 831 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: and they have to let and they have to have 832 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles win, it's gonna be a lot easier for 833 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: you win because you can probably force him in the 834 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 1: situations where he's going to turn the ball over. Right. 835 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same way about this Houston 836 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: Texas team, you know, except for the receivers. M okay, 837 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: and that's yeah, that's really Hopkins is tremendous and will 838 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: Fuller has the best body control of any receiver I've 839 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: seen all years. Wow. Really, yes, I mean really, his 840 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: body control when the balls in the air is phenomenal. Yeah, 841 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: he can set you up like Gronk, which means it's 842 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: a fade, except he's facing you, and then when the 843 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,479 Speaker 1: ball's thrown he can flip and go get it, which 844 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: means you're walled off as a defender. So he is 845 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: just that good. So some of those incompletions, like we 846 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: said against New York with those two receivers, will turn 847 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 1: into catching carries. Yeah. Yeah, so you're gonna need good 848 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 1: pressure on Savage. The ball's gonna come out quick. Make 849 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: sure you make the tackle on both those guys on 850 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: the perimeter. If not, they're gonna still, they're gonna run. 851 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna get going and get to the end zone. Yes, yeah, 852 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough. It will be tough. But one 853 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: thing I think we have seen from the Rams is 854 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: that the defense has improved. I think the defense did 855 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: turn that corner against Dallas in Week four, which we 856 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: sort of said, okay, does it look it looks like 857 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,760 Speaker 1: they may have turned a corner? Have they since that game? 858 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams have not allowed more than seventeen 859 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: points in a game. Yeah. Yeah, And you know we're 860 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,360 Speaker 1: coming up on a Takeaways help that. Takeaways takeaways help that, 861 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: and the Rams are seventh in the league, and takeaways 862 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 1: right now they have fifteen. They have ten interceptions and 863 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: five force fumbles. But yeah, is the defense getting takeaways 864 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: or not? Right? I mean, like like if somebody says, 865 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,919 Speaker 1: you know, wondered four Nette had a seventy five yard 866 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: and then he had twenty then nothing five? But did 867 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: that run happen or did it not? It happened? Oh yeah, 868 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: I'd like relate him to Mike Tyson. There's a young 869 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson who's you're not making it out of the 870 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: first round. I mean really, I mean when he was 871 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 1: young and you couldn't hit him and he's hitting you 872 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 1: a lot, you're not making it out of the first round. 873 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: Then the older Mike Tyson that was just a little 874 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: bit past his prime may lose rounds, but it only 875 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: took one punch and then the fight's over. Same thing. 876 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams were getting backed up, the Giants 877 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: were moving the football, and then they took it away. Yeah, 878 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 1: and then the Rams scored and makes the score a lopside. 879 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: The same thing, as long as you're if you want 880 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: to be a takeaway team, then so be it. If 881 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,480 Speaker 1: you want to be a team that stops everything and 882 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: be one of the greatest defenses, out there. I mean, 883 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: I still think you have that ability to be able 884 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: to stop everything. But an opportunistic defense that feeds an 885 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: offense that scores also wins in this league, Yes, definitely does. 886 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: Right now, the Rams have gotten back to plus three 887 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: in the turnover margin, which is good. McVay often says this, 888 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: The biggest indicator of wins and losses aside from points 889 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: is takeaways, no doubt, and that turnover margins. So that's very, 890 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: very important, and you're going to need you really should 891 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: expect to get at least one, probably more against this 892 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: team if you can force them into bad situation. Probably, 893 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: I mean, at some point I would assume. I mean 894 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: remember Tom Savage did start the season as the starter, right, 895 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: and then everybody asked why because Deshaun Watson, and then 896 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: he took off. But he's going to round back into 897 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 1: some sort of form in the offense is going to 898 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: start to fit his skill set and they'll start to 899 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: look like a credible offense. I mean, they're not going 900 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: to look like they did against India against the Rams, right, 901 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be a little bit different. So maybe 902 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: picks on tips and overthrows absolutely getting the ball out 903 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: on a pass rush is definitely a possibility with the 904 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: guys you have, But as far as him just messing 905 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: up and throwing it to you, I don't see that happening. Okay, yeah, 906 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. Well, I agree with you 907 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,360 Speaker 1: that they're going to be better than what they showed 908 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 1: last week. And last week they didn't get their off 909 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 1: their first offensive touchdown of the game until they were 910 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: just over six minutes left in the entire thing. Sure, 911 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 1: their first touchdown came from sack fumble and then they 912 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: returned it all the way back and it was a 913 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: really good play. Yeah, it was a good It was 914 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: a good play call too. On they sacked to Kobe 915 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: Brissette and a two minute drill, then returned that fumble 916 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: all the way to the end zone, and that's kind 917 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: of how this game got closed. So I think that 918 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: tells you again, taking care of the football going to 919 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 1: be very, very important against this defense. I was just 920 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 1: forty four attempts and he didn't throw a pick, right, 921 00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. I don't. I don't say a 922 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: guy like Tom Save is just throwing you the ball. 923 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. But if if he if 924 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: he's a little bit late and you're playing a little 925 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: bit faster on defense, and you get your hand on 926 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: it and it's tipped, then I can see a couple 927 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,319 Speaker 1: of turnovers that way, no doubt. Yeah. What do you 928 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: see from the Texans defensively? I mean ninety that's all 929 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: I see. Yeah, jadeveon Clowney. Um, he's going to start 930 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: the play on like balance downs, first and second down 931 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,479 Speaker 1: when it's could be a run pass, heavy run pass. 932 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna start on the right when it's obvious passing situations. 933 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: He's gonna stand up and pick on the week. Yes, 934 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: he's gonna pick the guy he thinks he's gonna have 935 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: the best chance to beat m So we'll fight. We'll 936 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: figure out who that's gonna be on game day, and 937 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: chances are it's going to be on an interior guy, 938 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: and that's I would probably guess Jamal Brown. Yeah, I 939 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: mean I think Roger Staffold is on his way to 940 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. So is Andrew Whitworth. I think that 941 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: side has been great. But if you had to pick 942 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 1: Um and unlike New York, why in the heck would 943 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: you put your best pass rusher on Andrew Whitworth. You're 944 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 1: helping the Rams. Listen. I don't know. Okay, I don't know, Hetch. Yeah, 945 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: you move that guy around, right. I told you I 946 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,319 Speaker 1: talked with Spags about his defense for a long time 947 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: and I still don't get it. Stuff like that is 948 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: head scratching. Wow. Um. But I would bet that they're 949 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna put Jadevan Clowney in passing situations somewhere in the middle, 950 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: probably on the defensive left on Jamon Brown and see 951 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: if you can get pressure there. But outside of that, 952 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of world beaters up front. 953 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: So to get pressure on the quarterback, you're gonna need 954 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure. You're gonna need to bring people 955 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: to get there like they did versus Indy, which is 956 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,959 Speaker 1: gonna open you up for a lot of stuff going 957 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: down the field. Right. And that's but why their defense 958 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 1: has been the way it is, why nineties you probably 959 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: the only one who shows up is because J. J. 960 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: Watt is hurt, Martin Merciless is hurt. Yeah, you have 961 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: Brian Cushing out for ten games suspension for using PD 962 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: for shorthanded team, right, so they are pretty shorthanded and 963 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys are very impactful players who 964 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: are not playing. Um, now let's just pass against the 965 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 1: run pretty stout. I mean, they're they've got some they've 966 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: got some girths, some big dudes that you know, they're 967 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: well coached. Bill O'Brien is, he's a tough minded coach. Yes, Um, 968 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna be tough to move the ball, you know, 969 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 1: to run the football against. But at some point, if 970 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: the scorer gets lopsided, or if if the Rams defense 971 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: is stopping that Texans offense, at some point this defense 972 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,280 Speaker 1: will collapse. If you look at their fourth quarter scoring, 973 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,919 Speaker 1: I think they've lost the fourth quarter of the last 974 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: five weeks in a row, they've been outscored. So I 975 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 1: mean at some point attrition kicks in and you know, 976 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: teams just get tired. You saw it all last year 977 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: with the Rams defense. Yes, this is true. Start out 978 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 1: like gangbusters and eventually they've got more players than you've 979 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: got effort, and you wind up losing games. Right, And 980 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: I think we would actually be remissed to not talk 981 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,800 Speaker 1: about Lamar Miller a little bit and just running the ball, 982 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: because I think that Lamar Miller actually just a really 983 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: good job for them. He's a guy that can get 984 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: them some yards. You also can get out of the 985 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: backfield and catch a pass if need be. So he's 986 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: going to be a guy that you're talking about, you 987 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: know Rams man defense and those pick routes and things 988 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,800 Speaker 1: like that, that Lamar Miller is going to be a 989 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: guy that the Rams have to stop. Oh yeah, and 990 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: if he's watching, I'm sure he's watching, you know, the 991 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: Rams versus in New York. You see dark Wood get out, right, 992 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: you see Goldman get out a few times. So Lamar 993 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: Miller thinks, why not me? Right, I think you're going 994 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 1: to get a heavy dose of run. He gets skinny 995 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: in the hole, he can get out there. And like 996 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: you said, he's he's a he's an all purpose back. 997 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 1: If it's not happening, you know, between the tackles or 998 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: running the football, he can also get you on screens 999 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 1: or out of the backfield. So again it's it's going 1000 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: to be a four quarter job for the Rams. D Absolutely. Okay, 1001 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: So before we get out of here, there's one thing 1002 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,399 Speaker 1: that I do really want to bring up because it's 1003 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: sort of like m once again, No it's not Carson Wentzkin, 1004 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 1: but it's the rant of the week. So have you. 1005 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 1: I know you don't tweet, Dak Prescott, stop just saying 1006 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: I know you don't tweet very much. I know. Okay, 1007 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: you did favorite a tweet today, I did. That was 1008 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 1: a mistake. That's just fat finger now my favorite. Oh 1009 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 1: it was. It was a question for the mail bag. 1010 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: See I was just trying to see the question. But anyway, 1011 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: go ahead, all right, what's the question? This is not 1012 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 1: a question, it's more of a statement. And then shoot 1013 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: like a rant. So Twitter has now gone from one 1014 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: hundred and forty characters to two hundred and eighty for 1015 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 1: everyone like this was did you even know about this 1016 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: thing in the in the past? So they like, did 1017 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: it beat a beta version? I guess you would say 1018 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: with a few different people, and like everybody started taking 1019 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: vantage like oh I have two eighty hahaha, and then 1020 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,400 Speaker 1: would like just put aaaaa two hundred and eighty times 1021 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: like a jerk. Okay, But then now you've got everybody 1022 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: who has this ability, and I'm telling you it's ruining Twitter. 1023 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 1: It's ruining it, ruining it for all of us. No 1024 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: how so, how so because everybody now thinks that all 1025 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: of their thoughts are so important that they can't be 1026 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: they can't have any brevity about themselves. Oh so everybody 1027 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: is using this two hundred and eighty characters and now 1028 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: nobody knows how to act on Twitter. And the worst 1029 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,879 Speaker 1: part is the worst part is that Twitter, in their 1030 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 1: justification for giving everybody two hundred and eighty characters, said, well, 1031 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: what we noticed was that when we gave people two 1032 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty characters, they used them for like a day, 1033 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: and then they pretty much didn't use them at all anymore, 1034 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: Like they just went like halfway. They weren't really using 1035 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 1: two eighty. So no, but this is the problem though, 1036 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: because everybody who's using two hundred eighty characters for everything, 1037 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: and your timeline is just littered with two hundred and 1038 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: eighty characters. This two hundred and eighty characters that I'm 1039 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: using this full quote from this one person just because 1040 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: I can see how much fun six and two is. 1041 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying twit. Twitter, please do us all a favor, 1042 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: go back to one hundred and forty characters, just please 1043 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: God what he said, Yeah, I'm a little afraid right now. 1044 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: We don't need to be afraid a little scared of Miles. 1045 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: Are you afraid? Matt I'm not afraid, but I do 1046 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 1: concur that like Facebook was for the stories, Twitter was 1047 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: for the quick brief thoughts and Instagram was for the pictures. Yes, 1048 00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: and instead everything's kind of molding into one giant social 1049 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 1: media blob. Right Twitter. Twitter is great because if you 1050 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 1: want to know something quickly on Twitter, that's where you go. 1051 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: That's news, right, when something happens in the world, right, 1052 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: that's where you go. And now you can't find anything 1053 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: because you have to sift through all the garbage and 1054 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: gobbly cook of people using two characters to express their 1055 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,239 Speaker 1: every thought. I think put that on the Facebook set. 1056 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 1: You're about this close to Santa curse word. No, I'm not, 1057 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: you are. I know we're on the air, just saying 1058 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 1: and even if I did, mac to believe it. See 1059 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,399 Speaker 1: that is what MAT's here for, all right. So after 1060 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,279 Speaker 1: that rant, I feel better. Now, got that off my chest. Wow, 1061 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,520 Speaker 1: what's the single most important thing the Rams have to 1062 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 1: do to beat the Houston Texas and one hundred and 1063 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: forty characters are less? Just to make sure I don't 1064 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: want to get ripped. No, because this is a podcast 1065 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: from it and we can talk as long as we want. Uh, 1066 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: just take care of the ball, take care of the football. 1067 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: Don't be loosey goosey with it. Um. You know there's 1068 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,360 Speaker 1: there's you mentioned. Playing at home. Defensively, it's gonna energize 1069 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: the Rams d you get to play with crowd noise, 1070 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit easier to rush 1071 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: the passers. So, but I do worry about the other side. 1072 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: At home, there is a tendency to let your guard drop. 1073 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 1: And I think most of the takeaways or turnovers have 1074 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,359 Speaker 1: happened at home. I believe so yes has at least 1075 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: two picks and fumbles. Yeah, yeah, so have happened at home. 1076 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 1: So just reverse that trend. Come out of the gate 1077 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: like you already have the lead. So we'll see what 1078 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 1: happens on game day. But yeah, just take care of 1079 00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: the football, be professional, and just remember rule number one 1080 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: is keep losing teams losing. You're a better football team 1081 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: than the Texans, so go out there and play like it. 1082 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Well, everybody, thank you so much for 1083 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: tuning into this edition of Between the Horns. Kickoff this 1084 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: week is at one oh five on CBS. Now. There 1085 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,839 Speaker 1: are actually Rams and Chargers are playing at the same 1086 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 1: are playing on the same network this weekend, so the 1087 00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 1: game might begin on KCAL nine and then it will 1088 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: be oh, go over to CBS once the chargers end, 1089 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,319 Speaker 1: so that the chargers end quicker then later making your work, 1090 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: yes exactly, but KAKAL nine. There will definitely be kickoff 1091 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: on KAKAL nine Access, the other CBS owned station here 1092 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, so Defar and I will probably have 1093 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: our sideline pregame live for you at twelve thirty Pacific 1094 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: right before kickoff. Also brief yeah, be sure to turn 1095 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 1: in for that though. You can be able to check 1096 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,799 Speaker 1: that out on Facebook Live and Periscope. So for my 1097 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: producer Matt for DeMarco Far, I'm Miles Simmons. We will 1098 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,919 Speaker 1: see Sunday Death