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Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week on Beyond Contact,
Speaker 3: we'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of
Speaker 3: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from
Speaker 3: the newest cases as we talk with the top experts.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Contact. I am
Speaker 4: your host, Captain Ron, and today we're going to be
Speaker 4: doing something a little bit different. There's no guests today.
Speaker 4: I've just been getting a lot of questions lately regarding
Speaker 4: the UFO alien phenomenon, and I think it's time we
Speaker 4: do a show about perspective, and the importance of keeping
Speaker 4: an open mind with regard to these topics. Each of
Speaker 4: these four segments will take a different approach to keeping
Speaker 4: things in perspective. Some people will say to me, They'll say,
Speaker 4: I have an open mind because I think some lights
Speaker 4: in the sky might be UFOs. Okay, But an open
Speaker 4: mind means that you also think that they might be
Speaker 4: something else, something more terrestrial. I think it's important to
Speaker 4: remember that, like with anything, you have to wait until
Speaker 4: you have more knowledge and perhaps a different reference point
Speaker 4: before making these determinations. It's my opinion that the vast majority,
Speaker 4: like ninety nine percent of these sightings do in fact
Speaker 4: have a terrestrial explanation. We have all seen strange lights
Speaker 4: in the sky. We have all seen tricks of the
Speaker 4: light or something we couldn't quite immediately identify. That doesn't
Speaker 4: mean the only explanation is alien. I think some sightings
Speaker 4: are actually anomalous and definitely require more scientific investigation as
Speaker 4: well as speculation from the observers, as they very well
Speaker 4: might be looking at something else entirely. There's too many
Speaker 4: experienced observers who have witnessed such sightings, sometimes just by
Speaker 4: us physically moving things come into focus and we realize
Speaker 4: exactly what we're looking at. Sometimes you look up and
Speaker 4: wonder what the heck is that, and then suddenly these
Speaker 4: lights in the sky that you were looking at turn
Speaker 4: and you realize it was just a cluster of birds.
Speaker 4: Like when you look at a three D sign that's
Speaker 4: designed to spell out a name, but only when you
Speaker 4: are standing in the correct position viewing it from the
Speaker 4: correct angle. If you are off angle by just a
Speaker 4: little bit, things look like a mess. But then when
Speaker 4: you're in a correct position and your perspective is correct,
Speaker 4: then the science can be read clearly. Perspective is the
Speaker 4: important factor here. Sometimes our perspective changes because we physically move,
Speaker 4: like in the three D sign example. Sometimes our perspective
Speaker 4: changes because time has passed and we can look at
Speaker 4: something from a new perspective. Well, it was scary at
Speaker 4: age nine, may not be scary, and may even be
Speaker 4: silly at age fifteen. Things in life that were important
Speaker 4: to us at twenty might not be so important to
Speaker 4: us at forty. Grotcho Marx was hugely popular and considered
Speaker 4: hilarious in the early twentieth century, but it doesn't land
Speaker 4: the same today's audiences, who look at it from a
Speaker 4: different perspective. Another way our perspective can change is technology
Speaker 4: and knowledge gained from that technology. There's this notion that
Speaker 4: you've probably heard of from the seventeen hundreds called the
Speaker 4: invisible ship's phenomenon. It states that when the new explorers
Speaker 4: came from Europe to the Americas, the indigenous people didn't
Speaker 4: even see the ships coming because they didn't know what
Speaker 4: ships were, so they had no reference or perspective to
Speaker 4: know what they were looking at, so they couldn't even
Speaker 4: see the ships. That's the perception the Europeans had based
Speaker 4: on the reaction of the natives. It does illustrate the
Speaker 4: point that we all operate from our own paradigm in worldview.
Speaker 4: We know the culmination of what we have learned and
Speaker 4: experienced and deal with on a daily basis. I think
Speaker 4: most of us would be scared or at the very
Speaker 4: least startled if we saw a ladybug that was ten
Speaker 4: inches long. That's outside our belief system of what we
Speaker 4: know a ladybug sh should be. That's one way to
Speaker 4: look at things. Another way is to think of it
Speaker 4: as we don't know what we don't know. It's hard
Speaker 4: to think of things this way. Put yet another way,
Speaker 4: there's a well known quote from Arthur C. Clark that says,
Speaker 4: any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. That's because
Speaker 4: it's more advanced and we don't yet understand it. Let's
Speaker 4: imagine you could time travel back to eighteen seventy five,
Speaker 4: keeping in mind that that is only one hundred and
Speaker 4: fifty years ago, not ten thousand years ago, but a
Speaker 4: mere one hundred and fifty years ago, a very short
Speaker 4: amount of time in the grand scheme of things, considering
Speaker 4: modern humans have been around for about one hundred and
Speaker 4: sixty thousand years. So you go up to the world's
Speaker 4: leading scientist of eighteen seventy five and show them your
Speaker 4: cell phone and say you can talk to any human
Speaker 4: being on the planet on this little device. Instantly, their
Speaker 4: minds would be blown. They would probably have a very
Speaker 4: hard time even grasping the idea of this. They have
Speaker 4: never even spoke on the telephone with anyone, let alone
Speaker 4: across the globe, let alone on a screen face to face,
Speaker 4: let alone in the palm of your hand. They have
Speaker 4: absolutely no point of reference as to what you have.
Speaker 4: Then you show them that you can also look up
Speaker 4: anything you wanted to right in the palm of your
Speaker 4: hand on that same device. This would certainly be earth
Speaker 4: shattering to them. Like the stories we have heard of
Speaker 4: Native people seeing pictures of themselves for the first time,
Speaker 4: This can actually also work in reverse. A fun YouTube
Speaker 4: search is to watch young kids looking at a landline phone,
Speaker 4: the old corded rotary style phones that were around even
Speaker 4: in the eighty They literally do not even have any
Speaker 4: idea how to operate it, which brings me to another
Speaker 4: notion regarding perspective. That is, we can be very close
Speaker 4: to something and yet so very far away. It may
Speaker 4: be just out of reate. We may in fact be
Speaker 4: very close to hearing a message from another civilization or
Speaker 4: even seeing another life form, but we might be just
Speaker 4: off in our ability to detect them. You only have
Speaker 4: to be off by a tiny fraction and something maybe
Speaker 4: utterly useless, like the rotary phone. If you were trapped
Speaker 4: and only had an old rotary phone to call for help,
Speaker 4: if you didn't know how to use it, you're out
Speaker 4: of luck. You'd be so close to being able to
Speaker 4: make a call for help, yet unable to do so.
Speaker 4: This reminds me of the Gold Record that we sent
Speaker 4: out into space on the Voyager pro back in nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy seven, which is still traveling through space, by the way,
Speaker 4: and is about fifteen billion miles from Earth and still
Speaker 4: sending back data. This gold disc was filled with music
Speaker 4: and sounds and images of Earth for another alien civilization
Speaker 4: to find. What a fantastic idea. Of course, if anyone
Speaker 4: from another civilization did find this, they too would have
Speaker 4: to have a record player and know how to access
Speaker 4: those sounds. Let's say they're smart enough to realize they
Speaker 4: need a record player, or for some reason they do
Speaker 4: have a record player. They would then have to also
Speaker 4: know what speed to play that record at. This tiny
Speaker 4: distinction could give them an entirely different idea of what
Speaker 4: we are trying to communicate. Without that specific technology used
Speaker 4: in precisely the correct way, they wouldn't be able to
Speaker 4: access it correctly. So close but yet so far away.
Speaker 4: That's the problem. In today's terms. We've all been there.
Speaker 4: We want to charge up our phone or another device,
Speaker 4: and there's a charger right there, but it turns out
Speaker 4: it doesn't fit our exact model. Therefore, we can't charge
Speaker 4: up so close but so far away, just by not
Speaker 4: having the exact adapter to fit our device. A charger
Speaker 4: is useless to us. Like the SETI program the Search
Speaker 4: for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, this is a great idea. Also, it's
Speaker 4: a telescope array that listens for radio frequencies from space. Awesome. However,
Speaker 4: this too, only works if there's another civilization using radio
Speaker 4: signals and using the exact same radio frequency range that
Speaker 4: we are listening for, and it's coming from the exact
Speaker 4: place in space that we're looking at. Another way to
Speaker 4: think of this perspective is that you could literally live
Speaker 4: right next door to a radio station. You look out
Speaker 4: your window and there's a giant a ton of broadcasting
Speaker 4: all sorts of fascinating information. If you do not have
Speaker 4: a receiver, you can't hear it and it's right next
Speaker 4: door to you. Worse than that, let's say you do
Speaker 4: have a receiver and it's right there, but you're off
Speaker 4: by one millimeter when tuning it in, so you still
Speaker 4: can't dial in that station, Or maybe you don't know
Speaker 4: how to dial it incorrectly, like with the example of
Speaker 4: the rotary phone. You know how to make a call,
Speaker 4: but you don't know how to make a call on
Speaker 4: that type of phone. Pondering these examples shows a how
Speaker 4: close we might be to make in contact with another civilization,
Speaker 4: but we may not fully see them, hear them, or
Speaker 4: realize their presence because we don't understand how to. You
Speaker 4: can imagine how close we might be to understanding another
Speaker 4: civilization's messages, but we may just be off station by
Speaker 4: one millimeter. I think it's imperative that we keep an
Speaker 4: open mind with regard to this, as perhaps as our
Speaker 4: technology expands, we will in fact one day be able
Speaker 4: to see here or understand another civilization's messages or presents.
Speaker 4: When we come back, we're going to talk more about
Speaker 4: how technology and knowledge is continuously changing our perspective. You're
Speaker 4: listening to Beyond Contact with Captain Ron right here on
Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 4: Welcome back to Beyond Contact. Technology, knowledge and our perspective
Speaker 4: is constantly changing and opening new avenues of discovery. Microscopic
Speaker 4: organisms were discovered in the late seventeenth century. Before that,
Speaker 4: the notion of tiny, little living organisms being everywhere surely
Speaker 4: would have been thought of as crazy. It wasn't until
Speaker 4: into the eighteen eighties, after the telephone was invented by
Speaker 4: the way that we discovered the first scientific evidence that
Speaker 4: microorganisms are even part of the normal human system. The
Speaker 4: infrared spectrum camera was invented around nineteen ten, and it
Speaker 4: allowed us to see into the infrared spectrum of light,
Speaker 4: which sees beyond what our eyes can see. In nineteen
Speaker 4: fifty seven, French scientist Vladimir Gavro first began researching infrasound
Speaker 4: machines that could hear well beyond that of the human ear.
Speaker 4: There are, of course, countless examples of this idea of
Speaker 4: how technology has allowed us to see something that has
Speaker 4: existed the entire time, but it was just out of
Speaker 4: reach of our perception. There are, of course, countless other
Speaker 4: examples of this idea of how technology has allowed us
Speaker 4: to see something that has existed the entire time, but
Speaker 4: it was just out of reach of our perception because
Speaker 4: we didn't have the ability to detect it. Throughout history,
Speaker 4: there have been severe criticisms of anyone challenging the existing
Speaker 4: position or norm. It's a pattern that is repeated over
Speaker 4: and over and over, and it seems maddening to me
Speaker 4: that we haven't grown more open minded as we see
Speaker 4: this happening continuously throughout history. This has spanned across religion
Speaker 4: and science for as long as they have existed. To
Speaker 4: this day, it still goes on, and often those who
Speaker 4: challenge accepted archaeological discoveries, for example, are shunned or even
Speaker 4: excluded for having those ideas. In an oversimplification to illustrate
Speaker 4: the point, it's the notion that many ancient cultures subscribe
Speaker 4: to a flat earth cosmography. Then we realized, of course,
Speaker 4: that the Earth was in fact round. These ideas are
Speaker 4: often later established and become the new norm as our
Speaker 4: knowledge evolves, which just shows we all need to be
Speaker 4: much more open minded with all of these ideas. Resisting
Speaker 4: these new ideas so vorociously seems foolish, as oftentimes these
Speaker 4: ideas eventually become proven correct as we gain more knowledge,
Speaker 4: often through technological advancements. I believe many of these things
Speaker 4: we currently view as unknowns will become apparent to us
Speaker 4: as we gain more technology and thus more knowledge. It
Speaker 4: feels wrong to be so dismissive of these ideas that
Speaker 4: challenge the currently held paradigm, as perhaps it's just a
Speaker 4: matter of not having the right person, perspective or technological
Speaker 4: know how don't just dismiss something out of hand because
Speaker 4: it doesn't line up with your current worldview, which will
Speaker 4: one day most certainly be an archaic paradigm. It's always
Speaker 4: about relative perspective. We may very well be wrong in
Speaker 4: our assumptions about many of these ideas and discoveries. Perhaps
Speaker 4: the ancient crystal skulls are in fact storage devices that
Speaker 4: hold information about the Earth or the universe, but we
Speaker 4: just don't know how to access it. We may be
Speaker 4: so close and yet so far. Like when people dismiss
Speaker 4: the notion of an extraterrestrial civilization visiting Earth, they are
Speaker 4: speaking from their paradigm using their current technology. They will
Speaker 4: often say, oh, you can't get there from here. What
Speaker 4: they really mean to say is you can't get there
Speaker 4: from here using the technology that we have today, because
Speaker 4: that would take over ten thousand years. The nearest star
Speaker 4: is four point two light years away. A light year
Speaker 4: is the distance that light travels in one Earth year,
Speaker 4: which is about six trillion miles for those keeping track,
Speaker 4: So if we could travel near the speed of light,
Speaker 4: it would take us about four years. With today's current technology,
Speaker 4: we can travel about thirty seven thousand miles an hour,
Speaker 4: so it would take us tens of thousands of years
Speaker 4: to make that journey. Obviously, we could develop faster and
Speaker 4: faster ways to traverse space, of which several are being
Speaker 4: developed right now. We could perhaps even develop an entirely
Speaker 4: new way to move about the universe, or perhaps even
Speaker 4: inter dimensionally. There's speculation we could even fold space and
Speaker 4: thus cover vast distances in short amounts of time, using
Speaker 4: what some have called wormholes. As just one example, in
Speaker 4: the fifteenth century, you can easily imagine Europeans saying exactly
Speaker 4: the same thing about the new world of North America
Speaker 4: that you can't get there from here. Of course, many
Speaker 4: of them didn't even believe there was a here to
Speaker 4: come to, simply because they hadn't had the technology to
Speaker 4: know better. But of course, when we did discover the
Speaker 4: new world, it would take a minimum of two to
Speaker 4: four months, depending on the weather, to make that trip
Speaker 4: just one way for a reference, that's about fourteen hundred
Speaker 4: to twenty eight hundred hours. Quite a journey. Let's again
Speaker 4: imagine you could travel back to eighteen twenty five, just
Speaker 4: two hundred years ago. This is before we had steamship
Speaker 4: technology or even Morrise code. So travel and communication was
Speaker 4: what we would consider today painfully slow. Then we developed
Speaker 4: through technology better ships and even planes. Today boats can
Speaker 4: go from New York to London in about one hundred
Speaker 4: and thirty five hours instead of the twenty eight hundred
Speaker 4: hours that used to take. And I bet you two
Speaker 4: hundred years from now that one hundred and thirty five
Speaker 4: hour number will seem painfully slow. We now, of course,
Speaker 4: even have planes yet to be imagined technology that they
Speaker 4: didn't have in eighteen twenty five, and the Concord plane
Speaker 4: can make the trip from New York to London in
Speaker 4: under three hours. So something that just two hundred years
Speaker 4: ago would take twenty eight hundred dollars now takes under
Speaker 4: three We're talking about one one thousandth of the time.
Speaker 4: I can certainly imagine people in eighteen twenty five saying
Speaker 4: there's no way you can get there from here in
Speaker 4: anything close to that time. It was simply impossible from
Speaker 4: their worldview, from their state of technology at the time.
Speaker 4: So we have to be open minded, and we have
Speaker 4: to remember we are using our current state of technology
Speaker 4: as a point of reference. Many of these unknowns of
Speaker 4: today will surely be within our scope of understanding. In
Speaker 4: the future. In nineteen hundred, not that long ago at all,
Speaker 4: the famed British physicist Lord Kelvin stated, now there is
Speaker 4: nothing new to discover in physics. What only remains is
Speaker 4: to be measured more and more precisely. Wow, holy hubris,
Speaker 4: What an example of us being so egotistically locked into
Speaker 4: our own current point of reference. These these analogies are
Speaker 4: to illustrate the point that things change. These comparisons to
Speaker 4: our technology or knowledge base are from just one hundred
Speaker 4: and fifty to two hundred years ago. They also illustrate
Speaker 4: how fast and how dramatic our views, our technology, and
Speaker 4: our knowledge and understanding can change in a very short time.
Speaker 4: And now we are just beginning with another new revolution,
Speaker 4: that of artificial intelligence. Already we can see how technological
Speaker 4: growth is happening exponentially. One can easily imagine if another
Speaker 4: civilization created artificial intelligence, as seems inevitable, how fast their
Speaker 4: technology could evolve. Not only have they most likely had
Speaker 4: a huge jump in linear time on us, but depending
Speaker 4: on when they develop things like AI or perhaps something
Speaker 4: even more advanced, something unknown to us, you can imagine
Speaker 4: how fast their technological growth would be a civilization reaching
Speaker 4: our current level just one thousand years earlier than we have,
Speaker 4: and you can imagine how far ahead they would be technologically,
Speaker 4: and they, of course have had potentially nine billion more
Speaker 4: years to develop. Keeping in mind that the accepted age
Speaker 4: of the universe is thirteen point seven billion years old
Speaker 4: and the accepted age of the Earth is just four
Speaker 4: point five billion years old, it seems very reasonable to
Speaker 4: assume that another intelligent civilization in the universe could be
Speaker 4: over nine billion years ahead of us in technological development.
Speaker 4: Given what we have learned in just the last two
Speaker 4: hundred years, you can imagine a civilization wouldn't need to
Speaker 4: be nine billion years ahead of us technologically, but a
Speaker 4: mere nine million years or even nine thousand years could
Speaker 4: mean such a vast difference in understanding of the universe
Speaker 4: that it would easily be incomprehensible for us from our
Speaker 4: current perspective to even understand. When you consider what a
Speaker 4: profoundly rapid change AI is making in our understanding of
Speaker 4: the world in the universe, you can easily extrapolate that
Speaker 4: out to a civilization that's a thought thousand or let's
Speaker 4: say ten thousand years ahead of us, and you can
Speaker 4: imagine how even a slight jump on us technologically would
Speaker 4: put them vastly ahead of us. Faced with an advanced
Speaker 4: society with higher technology, we may not even be able
Speaker 4: to grasp the fanciful notions that they have mastered. We
Speaker 4: just saw how a two hundred year advantage that we
Speaker 4: have over those in eighteen twenty five, and how drastically
Speaker 4: our understanding of the universe and the human experience is.
Speaker 4: And that's from the same species, in the same location,
Speaker 4: on the same planet, just simply looking at the world
Speaker 4: from a two hundred year difference in perspective. Next, we
Speaker 4: will look at how every major advance in science shattered
Speaker 4: a previous belief that was certain and everyone accepted as factual.
Speaker 4: These new discoveries were often criticized or dismissed entirely until
Speaker 4: through technology, we are able to gain the knowledge to
Speaker 4: prove them. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio
Speaker 4: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We are
Speaker 4: back on Beyond Contact. When you sit back and take
Speaker 4: a look at it, nearly every major advance in science
Speaker 4: shattered a previously held belief that was believed to be
Speaker 4: a certainty and everyone accepted as factual. I'd like to
Speaker 4: run through a series of these examples for perspective. So
Speaker 4: going back to twenty five hundred BC, the Egyptians thought
Speaker 4: that the sun god Raw, carried the Sun across the
Speaker 4: sky in the daytime and then brought it back through
Speaker 4: a tunnel under the earth at night. This is literally comical.
Speaker 4: Today a nine year old would laugh at this notion.
Speaker 4: In five hundred BC, the Greeks first worked out that
Speaker 4: the Earth wasn't flat, going against the common belief that
Speaker 4: it was indeed flat. Two thousand years later, in fifteen
Speaker 4: forty three, Nicholas Copernicus figured out that the Earth revolved
Speaker 4: around the Sun, at a time when nobody knew that
Speaker 4: the stars were even other suns, and he did this
Speaker 4: using only the naked eye without any technology. Fifteen years later,
Speaker 4: in fifteen nineteen, the Magellan Elcano expedition was the first
Speaker 4: to provide practical proof that the Earth was actually round.
Speaker 4: In the year sixteen hundred, Geodorno Bruno was buried alive
Speaker 4: at the stake and his ashes were thrown into the
Speaker 4: Tiber River. This was for several reasons, including that he
Speaker 4: proposed that the stars were distant suns surrounded by their
Speaker 4: own planets what we call today exoplanets, and he raised
Speaker 4: the possibility that these planets might foster life of their own.
Speaker 4: Bruno was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on
Speaker 4: charges of denial of several core Catholic doctrines. He also
Speaker 4: believed in pantheism, meaning he regarded the universe as a
Speaker 4: manifestation of God, and he believed in reincarnation of the soul.
Speaker 4: It was only after his death that he gained considerable fame,
Speaker 4: particularly by nineteenth and twentieth century commentators, who regarded him
Speaker 4: as a martyr for science. His case is still considered
Speaker 4: a landmark in the history of free thought and the
Speaker 4: emerging sciences. In sixteen ten, Galileo pretty much confirmed Comperticus's
Speaker 4: belief that the Earth went around the Sun. At that time,
Speaker 4: the Catholic Church classified it as heresy and warned him
Speaker 4: to abandon it. It is said that he luckily was
Speaker 4: only spared torture and death like Bruno faced, because his
Speaker 4: powerful friends intervened on his behalf. Nearly four hundred years later,
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty nine, they even launched a space probe
Speaker 4: with his name on it. In the eighteen sixties and seventies,
Speaker 4: when famed scientist Louis Pastor presented his findings on fermentation
Speaker 4: in the role of microorganisms, some scientists and medical professionals
Speaker 4: were very skeptical of the germ theory because it challenged
Speaker 4: the prevailing miasma theory, which held the diseases were caused
Speaker 4: by bad error or vapors. This theory was widely accepted
Speaker 4: and ingrained in medical practices of the time, so Pastor's
Speaker 4: ideas were met with much resistance from those who were
Speaker 4: invested in the traditional theories. By the late nineteenth century,
Speaker 4: Pastor was proven to be correct and eventually revolutionized medicine
Speaker 4: and microbiology. Another example, in eighteen sixty five, James Clark
Speaker 4: Maxwell's groundbreaking equations introduced a unified theory of electricity and magnetism.
Speaker 4: They were initially met with resistance, as well as experimental
Speaker 4: evidence and technological advances in the late nineteenth and early
Speaker 4: twentieth centuries validated Maxwell's theories. The initial criticism finally diminished,
Speaker 4: and by the early twentieth century his work has become
Speaker 4: widely accepted and recognized as a cornerstone of classical electromagnetism. Then,
Speaker 4: in nineteen twenty three. Again, we're only talking about one
Speaker 4: hundred years ago. Edwin Hubbell and other astronomers all thought
Speaker 4: that our Milky Way galaxy was the entire universe. But
Speaker 4: then at the Mount Wilson Observatory in California, they discovered
Speaker 4: the first galaxy beyond our own. Up until then, the
Speaker 4: entire world believed that the entirety of the universe was
Speaker 4: just what we now consider our one small, little Milky
Speaker 4: Way galaxy. In fact, today we believe that there are
Speaker 4: up to two hundred trillion galaxies. It's hard to believe
Speaker 4: that just one hundred years ago we thought there was
Speaker 4: one our own that was the whole universe, and today
Speaker 4: we know that we are one in perhaps two hundred trillion.
Speaker 4: Incredible to think we were again wrong by so much,
Speaker 4: and that was just one hundred years ago. But thanks
Speaker 4: again to technology, we now know otherwise. The other galaxies
Speaker 4: were always there, but we didn't know how to see them.
Speaker 4: In nineteen thirty, Alfred Wagner proposed the Earth's continents moved
Speaker 4: very slowly over millions of years, and move a long way.
Speaker 4: Between nineteen twelve and nineteen twenty nine, he published a
Speaker 4: stream of fossil and rock evidence to support this theory.
Speaker 4: He died in nineteen thirty, again less than one hundred
Speaker 4: years ago. His theory of continental drift was rejected by
Speaker 4: most scientists during his lifetime. It was only in the
Speaker 4: nineteen sixties that continental drift finally became part of mainstream science.
Speaker 4: In nineteen sixty four, Peter Higgs of Higgs Boson fame
Speaker 4: and his team first proposed the Higgs Boson particles existence.
Speaker 4: At the time, the standard model of particle physics had
Speaker 4: not yet even been conceived. It took nearly fifty years
Speaker 4: later and the creation of the Large Hadron Collider to
Speaker 4: finally prove his theory. He was one of the lucky ones,
Speaker 4: as he was alive and able to see his theory
Speaker 4: proven true, and he was validated during his lifetime. In
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two, doctor Alexander Wolscand discovered the first exoplanet,
Speaker 4: meaning a planet around another star outside our Solar system.
Speaker 4: Now we are talking about just thirty five years ago.
Speaker 4: This widely held consensus belief at the time was that
Speaker 4: there were no planets around any stars period. Thanks to
Speaker 4: technology today, we now believe one in five stars has planets.
Speaker 4: Around them. Again, we were so far off of what
Speaker 4: we now know to be reality. As I mentioned before,
Speaker 4: our galaxy alone is known to have between one hundred
Speaker 4: and two hundred billion planets, with approximately sixty billion of
Speaker 4: those planets in what they're calling the habitable zone that
Speaker 4: could potentially harbor life. Again, that's using our paradigm for
Speaker 4: our type of life. So this could in fact one
Speaker 4: day be an even bigger number as well, And it
Speaker 4: could be even bigger yet if you start to think
Speaker 4: about the existence of other dimensions or realms. An important
Speaker 4: note here is the whole time when science was considering
Speaker 4: other life in the universe, it was with the understanding
Speaker 4: that there were no other planets in the universe. In
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, astronomer Robert Work, working in Hawaii, detected a
Speaker 4: strange object traveling through our solar system. This turned out
Speaker 4: to be the first known interstellar object in our galaxy
Speaker 4: and was named a Muamua Avi Lobe. The head of
Speaker 4: astronomy at Harvard brought this name to prominence in twenty
Speaker 4: twenty one when he speculated that this could in fact
Speaker 4: be a craft from outside our Solar System. In twenty
Speaker 4: twenty a team of researchers led by Jane Graves from
Speaker 4: Cardiff University in the UK announced the discovery of a
Speaker 4: significant source of phosphorin, which is a biosignature gas that's
Speaker 4: closely related to life on Earth in the clouds above Venus.
Speaker 4: These scientists were shamed for claiming signs of life on Venus,
Speaker 4: but now they're back with even more evidence and this
Speaker 4: is now being considered today. There are countless examples of
Speaker 4: scientists who were discredited and later, often after their death,
Speaker 4: proven to be correct. These examples also illustrate how far
Speaker 4: off our accepted beliefs were. I mean by factors of millions,
Speaker 4: sometimes trillions. It's astonishing how off we were. Perhaps there
Speaker 4: are in fact different dimensions, but we don't know how
Speaker 4: to see them because we don't have the technological know
Speaker 4: how yet to do so. Perhaps other civilizations are reaching
Speaker 4: out to us, but we don't have the technological know
Speaker 4: how on how to hear and decipher these messages. Given
Speaker 4: a little time in technology, our belief system can easily
Speaker 4: be turned on its head. As we've seen. The point
Speaker 4: of all these examples is we may not understand what
Speaker 4: is happening with all this phenomena in and around the
Speaker 4: UFO field. But that doesn't mean it's not real. It
Speaker 4: may just mean we don't have the technology or the
Speaker 4: knowledge to fully understand them yet. And maybe we are
Speaker 4: off by one millimeters somewhere from receiving the messages from
Speaker 4: across the universe. We are just now getting to the
Speaker 4: point where we are unable to tell if someone is
Speaker 4: AI or a real human being. If we did come
Speaker 4: upon an extraterrestrial form of AI, and we were somehow
Speaker 4: able to communicate with it, we would have no way
Speaker 4: of knowing if it's in fact a form of artificial
Speaker 4: intelligence itself or actually an alien intelligent as we would
Speaker 4: have no point of reference or perspective on it. Again,
Speaker 4: it seems most likely to me that this would be
Speaker 4: the case, as it seems to make much more sense
Speaker 4: for our civilization to send out some form of AI
Speaker 4: instead of a biological being to explore the universe. But
Speaker 4: then again, of course, I'm thinking with our current way
Speaker 4: of understanding, it is clearly ignorant to judge everything by
Speaker 4: our current state of technology and our current paradigms. We
Speaker 4: all have unique worldviews based on what science tells us
Speaker 4: and what our life experience has taught us, but I
Speaker 4: think it's important that we all remember that this will
Speaker 4: change in the future, so we shouldn't be so quick
Speaker 4: to dismiss other possibilities, as most assuredly, our technology, our knowledge,
Speaker 4: and our reference point will most certainly change. Better to
Speaker 4: be open minded when these changes come than locked into
Speaker 4: a worldview which will one day certainly be an archaic one.
Speaker 4: Speaking of paradigms, check out the website of Danny Sheehan's
Speaker 4: organization at the New Paradigm Institute dot org, as they
Speaker 4: are doing incredible work on moving our knowledge in this
Speaker 4: area forward. When we return, we're going to take a
Speaker 4: look at the latest technologies and how they may affect
Speaker 4: our understanding of possible extraterrestrial communication as well as our
Speaker 4: own human experiences. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the
Speaker 4: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Welcome
Speaker 4: back to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and we've
Speaker 4: been talking about the importance of perspective and having an
Speaker 4: open mind with regard to ET and UFO issues. We've
Speaker 4: seen how technology can open up a whole new world
Speaker 4: to us, often one that was always there, but we
Speaker 4: just didn't know how to perceive its presence, and we've
Speaker 4: talked about how oftentimes many of these new discoveries were ridiculed,
Speaker 4: were dismissed out of hand, yet eventually those outlandish ideas
Speaker 4: were often later proven true. You can see how all
Speaker 4: this applies nicely to the notion of alien civilizations. We
Speaker 4: have seen throughout history that mankind has been caught up
Speaker 4: in its own hubris, when in fact it is very
Speaker 4: often wrong in even the basic understandings of the universe
Speaker 4: as we now know it to be. There are other
Speaker 4: technological developments which could have a huge profound effect on
Speaker 4: what we know about the universe and may help in
Speaker 4: the search of extraterrestrial life. There's the proposed Habitable World's Observatory,
Speaker 4: which would be a large infrared, optical and ultraviolet space telescope.
Speaker 4: It would be optimized to search for and image Earth
Speaker 4: sized habitable exoplanets in the habitable zones of their stars
Speaker 4: where liquid water can exist. There is also the ELT
Speaker 4: aptly named the Extremely Large Telescope in Chile's Atacama Desert.
Speaker 4: This telescope is slated to be operational in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: eight and will be one hundred and thirty feet across,
Speaker 4: making it the largest ever built. It will track down
Speaker 4: earthlike planets around other stars and could become the first
Speaker 4: telescope to find evidence of life outside of our solar system.
Speaker 4: The leap forward with the ELT can lead to a
Speaker 4: paradigm shift in our perception of the entire universe, much
Speaker 4: like Galileo's telescope did four hundred years ago. Next, I'd
Speaker 4: like to talk about us being on the verge of
Speaker 4: yet another scientific revolution which is poised to utterly change
Speaker 4: the human experience as we know it. The first part
Speaker 4: of this is the onset of artificial intelligence. Given the
Speaker 4: digital computing is fundamentally based on mathematics, which is a
Speaker 4: universal language that describes patterns, structures, and relationships, these systems
Speaker 4: reflect fundamental principles that are likely to be universal. Therefore,
Speaker 4: does stand a reason that another advanced civilization may develop
Speaker 4: its own form of digital artificial intelligence, and or perhaps
Speaker 4: something even more intriguing. As we are just getting a
Speaker 4: handle on understanding this technology, we can already see how
Speaker 4: it could vastly improve our space exploration, and as I
Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, it seems like a much more logical choice
Speaker 4: to send AI out into space to explore the universe
Speaker 4: instead of humans. AI doesn't need breaks, does it need
Speaker 4: to eat, doesn't get sick, doesn't die, doesn't have to
Speaker 4: report to the wife. Nothing, It can continuously learn and
Speaker 4: send back data to us. We are starting to see
Speaker 4: artificial general intelligence systems emerge that possess general cognitive abilities
Speaker 4: that are similar to human intelligence. We are already hearing
Speaker 4: about artificial superintelligence, which is a form of AI that
Speaker 4: would surpass even the best human minds in every field,
Speaker 4: including creativity, problem solving, and social intelligence. And it's just
Speaker 4: going to continue exponentially from there. Elon Musk is currently
Speaker 4: building the world's largest supercomputer called XAI. This computer will
Speaker 4: have over one hundred thousand of these specialized Navidia superconductors
Speaker 4: to train and run the next version of his gronk AI.
Speaker 4: It's just massive. It's being built in a facility that
Speaker 4: has overset one hundred and eighty five thousand square feet
Speaker 4: and is set to open in twenty twenty five. And
Speaker 4: this is not the only one. Others are being designed
Speaker 4: to be built right now as well. Not only will
Speaker 4: AI greatly enhance our ability to explore the universe, but
Speaker 4: it will give us better technology to understand what's happening
Speaker 4: in our skies right here on Earth. It can help
Speaker 4: us search for UFOs by analyzing large amounts of data
Speaker 4: from various sources such as radar, satellite imagery, radio signals,
Speaker 4: and even eyewitness reports. It has the ability to identify
Speaker 4: things like planets, planes, drones, and the space station. AI
Speaker 4: algorithms can be trained to detect patterns or anomalies sifting
Speaker 4: through just massive amounts of information, making it much easier
Speaker 4: for researchers to focus only on the anomalies and the
Speaker 4: data and investigate those further. Additionally, there are new artificial
Speaker 4: intelligence models that can detect alien life. According to a
Speaker 4: study published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the National
Speaker 4: Academy of Sciences, they say this algorithm can and distinguish
Speaker 4: between samples of biological and non biological origin ninety percent
Speaker 4: of the time. This method should be able to detect
Speaker 4: alien biochemistries as well as things similar to Earth life.
Speaker 4: It states that these results mean that we may be
Speaker 4: able to find a life form from another planet, another biosphere,
Speaker 4: even if it's very different from the life we know
Speaker 4: here on Earth, and if we do find signs of
Speaker 4: life elsewhere we can tell if life on Earth and
Speaker 4: other planets derived from a common or a different origin. Obviously,
Speaker 4: this is not necessarily intelligent life, but it will verify
Speaker 4: confirmed life out there to mainstream science, which is a
Speaker 4: massive step on its own. If we do discover some
Speaker 4: new message sent from an alien civilization, we would need
Speaker 4: AI systems to decode and figure out the translation of
Speaker 4: such messages. Not to mention, if we do actually have
Speaker 4: an interaction with another intelligence, we would again need an
Speaker 4: AI system in order to be able to communicate with them.
Speaker 4: AI did start off a language model, after all, and
Speaker 4: as has been said earlier, not only would we send
Speaker 4: AI up to Explorer space because AI travels better than
Speaker 4: a biologic being like humans, but aliens too would most
Speaker 4: likely be sending some sort of artificial intelligence as well.
Speaker 4: So it is actually quite likely that the first official
Speaker 4: alien human communication would really be AI to AI. This
Speaker 4: is such a new frontier that we really don't know
Speaker 4: where it's headed. Neither do the top people in this field.
Speaker 4: For example, Jeffrey Hinton, considered the godfather of AI, has
Speaker 4: expressed concerns about the dangers and fears of artificial intelligence.
Speaker 4: Here's a couple quotes that he has said on the subject,
Speaker 4: the alarm bell I'm ringing has to do with the
Speaker 4: existential threat of them taking control. I used to think
Speaker 4: this was a long way off, but I now think
Speaker 4: it's serious and fairly close. He also wrote, it's quite
Speaker 4: conceivable that humanity is just a passing phase in the
Speaker 4: evolution of intelligence. Wow. Pretty incredible. Sam Altman, the CEO
Speaker 4: of open AI, has been quoted as saying, I prep
Speaker 4: for survival, including AI that attacks us. So clearly, we
Speaker 4: really don't know what AI will become or what it's
Speaker 4: capable of, but it's important to note how the top
Speaker 4: people in this field are clearly concerned. There is yet
Speaker 4: another development, also by Elon Musk. They may have an
Speaker 4: equally profound effect on the world. That is his Neurallink
Speaker 4: company and their brain computer interfaces or BCIs. These are
Speaker 4: computer chip brain implants that could potentially transform various aspects
Speaker 4: of medicine, technology, and human enhancement in the future. These
Speaker 4: BCIs could enable direct brain to brain communication or allow
Speaker 4: individuals to communicate with outspoken language, creating an entirely new
Speaker 4: form of interaction. Not to mention the speed of this communication,
Speaker 4: which will be much faster than anything we have now.
Speaker 4: As you can imagine, it will continuously get faster. Just
Speaker 4: as computers of ten years ago are unusuably slow today,
Speaker 4: the same will happen here. More importantly, these brain computer
Speaker 4: interfaces could allow for more seamless interaction between humans and
Speaker 4: artificial intelligence, enabling an almost cyborg like instant integration with
Speaker 4: AI systems. These computer interactions could take place at speeds
Speaker 4: ten times as fast as we communicate, and up of
Speaker 4: what we now take to communicate with a computer system.
Speaker 4: They are already saying that the slow part of our
Speaker 4: interaction with AI is the time it takes for the
Speaker 4: human being to input to the computer. Computers can already
Speaker 4: calculate one quintillion calculations per second. The human experience as
Speaker 4: we know it and have known it to be is
Speaker 4: about to go through profound changes over just the next
Speaker 4: couple generations, and this is already happening right now. Two
Speaker 4: people have already had a computer chip implant, and two
Speaker 4: more are getting it imminently. Neuralink is a form of
Speaker 4: human augmentation, but this too could potentially assist in the
Speaker 4: search for UFOs. It could potentially enhance human perception by
Speaker 4: connecting our brains directly to sensors or devices that can
Speaker 4: detect signals related to UFO sightings. This enhanced perception could
Speaker 4: allow individuals to detect and interpret signals or phenomenon related
Speaker 4: to UFOs that are beyond our natural senses. It could
Speaker 4: enable direct access to an analysis of vast amounts of
Speaker 4: data related to UFO sightings and experiences. People could analyze
Speaker 4: and interpret this data more efficiently, potentially leading to new
Speaker 4: insights and discoveries about the UFO phenomenon. This technology could
Speaker 4: potentially enhance human capabilities and allow us to perhaps gain
Speaker 4: a better understanding of many of these different mysterious phenomenon.
Speaker 4: AI and neurlink have a huge potential to utterly change
Speaker 4: the human experience and the way we both understand and
Speaker 4: interact with our world. Perhaps these technologies will lead us
Speaker 4: to be able to detect and even interpret messages from
Speaker 4: an alien civilization. Once again, it's possible these messages are
Speaker 4: already coming here, we just haven't had the technology to
Speaker 4: hear them yet. These are just a couple examples, The
Speaker 4: point being that I believe we should stay at the
Speaker 4: very least open minded with regards to these topics as
Speaker 4: history has shown us time and time again. Eventually our
Speaker 4: way of thinking will become an archaic, ignorant way of thinking.
Speaker 4: Hit us up on social media with your thoughts. You
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Speaker 3: Mm hmm