1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Captain Rong. 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premier Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week on Beyond Contact, 12 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: we'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of 13 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from 14 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: the newest cases as we talk with the top experts. 15 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 4: Welcome back to another episode of Beyond Contact. I am 16 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: your host, Captain Ron, and today we're going to be 17 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: doing something a little bit different. There's no guests today. 18 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: I've just been getting a lot of questions lately regarding 19 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: the UFO alien phenomenon, and I think it's time we 20 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 4: do a show about perspective, and the importance of keeping 21 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 4: an open mind with regard to these topics. Each of 22 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,279 Speaker 4: these four segments will take a different approach to keeping 23 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 4: things in perspective. Some people will say to me, They'll say, 24 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: I have an open mind because I think some lights 25 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: in the sky might be UFOs. Okay, But an open 26 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: mind means that you also think that they might be 27 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 4: something else, something more terrestrial. I think it's important to 28 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: remember that, like with anything, you have to wait until 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: you have more knowledge and perhaps a different reference point 30 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: before making these determinations. It's my opinion that the vast majority, 31 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 4: like ninety nine percent of these sightings do in fact 32 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 4: have a terrestrial explanation. We have all seen strange lights 33 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: in the sky. We have all seen tricks of the 34 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: light or something we couldn't quite immediately identify. That doesn't 35 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: mean the only explanation is alien. I think some sightings 36 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 4: are actually anomalous and definitely require more scientific investigation as 37 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: well as speculation from the observers, as they very well 38 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: might be looking at something else entirely. There's too many 39 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: experienced observers who have witnessed such sightings, sometimes just by 40 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: us physically moving things come into focus and we realize 41 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: exactly what we're looking at. Sometimes you look up and 42 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: wonder what the heck is that, and then suddenly these 43 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 4: lights in the sky that you were looking at turn 44 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: and you realize it was just a cluster of birds. 45 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 4: Like when you look at a three D sign that's 46 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 4: designed to spell out a name, but only when you 47 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: are standing in the correct position viewing it from the 48 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 4: correct angle. If you are off angle by just a 49 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 4: little bit, things look like a mess. But then when 50 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 4: you're in a correct position and your perspective is correct, 51 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: then the science can be read clearly. Perspective is the 52 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: important factor here. Sometimes our perspective changes because we physically move, 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: like in the three D sign example. Sometimes our perspective 54 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 4: changes because time has passed and we can look at 55 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 4: something from a new perspective. Well, it was scary at 56 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: age nine, may not be scary, and may even be 57 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 4: silly at age fifteen. Things in life that were important 58 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: to us at twenty might not be so important to 59 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 4: us at forty. Grotcho Marx was hugely popular and considered 60 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: hilarious in the early twentieth century, but it doesn't land 61 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: the same today's audiences, who look at it from a 62 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 4: different perspective. Another way our perspective can change is technology 63 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 4: and knowledge gained from that technology. There's this notion that 64 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: you've probably heard of from the seventeen hundreds called the 65 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 4: invisible ship's phenomenon. It states that when the new explorers 66 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 4: came from Europe to the Americas, the indigenous people didn't 67 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: even see the ships coming because they didn't know what 68 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 4: ships were, so they had no reference or perspective to 69 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 4: know what they were looking at, so they couldn't even 70 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: see the ships. That's the perception the Europeans had based 71 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: on the reaction of the natives. It does illustrate the 72 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 4: point that we all operate from our own paradigm in worldview. 73 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: We know the culmination of what we have learned and 74 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: experienced and deal with on a daily basis. I think 75 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: most of us would be scared or at the very 76 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 4: least startled if we saw a ladybug that was ten 77 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: inches long. That's outside our belief system of what we 78 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: know a ladybug sh should be. That's one way to 79 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: look at things. Another way is to think of it 80 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: as we don't know what we don't know. It's hard 81 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: to think of things this way. Put yet another way, 82 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 4: there's a well known quote from Arthur C. Clark that says, 83 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 4: any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. That's because 84 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: it's more advanced and we don't yet understand it. Let's 85 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 4: imagine you could time travel back to eighteen seventy five, 86 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: keeping in mind that that is only one hundred and 87 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 4: fifty years ago, not ten thousand years ago, but a 88 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 4: mere one hundred and fifty years ago, a very short 89 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: amount of time in the grand scheme of things, considering 90 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: modern humans have been around for about one hundred and 91 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: sixty thousand years. So you go up to the world's 92 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: leading scientist of eighteen seventy five and show them your 93 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 4: cell phone and say you can talk to any human 94 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: being on the planet on this little device. Instantly, their 95 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 4: minds would be blown. They would probably have a very 96 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: hard time even grasping the idea of this. They have 97 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 4: never even spoke on the telephone with anyone, let alone 98 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: across the globe, let alone on a screen face to face, 99 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: let alone in the palm of your hand. They have 100 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 4: absolutely no point of reference as to what you have. 101 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: Then you show them that you can also look up 102 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: anything you wanted to right in the palm of your 103 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 4: hand on that same device. This would certainly be earth 104 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 4: shattering to them. Like the stories we have heard of 105 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: Native people seeing pictures of themselves for the first time, 106 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 4: This can actually also work in reverse. A fun YouTube 107 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: search is to watch young kids looking at a landline phone, 108 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: the old corded rotary style phones that were around even 109 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 4: in the eighty They literally do not even have any 110 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,679 Speaker 4: idea how to operate it, which brings me to another 111 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 4: notion regarding perspective. That is, we can be very close 112 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 4: to something and yet so very far away. It may 113 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 4: be just out of reate. We may in fact be 114 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: very close to hearing a message from another civilization or 115 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 4: even seeing another life form, but we might be just 116 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: off in our ability to detect them. You only have 117 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: to be off by a tiny fraction and something maybe 118 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: utterly useless, like the rotary phone. If you were trapped 119 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: and only had an old rotary phone to call for help, 120 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: if you didn't know how to use it, you're out 121 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 4: of luck. You'd be so close to being able to 122 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 4: make a call for help, yet unable to do so. 123 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: This reminds me of the Gold Record that we sent 124 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: out into space on the Voyager pro back in nineteen 125 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: seventy seven, which is still traveling through space, by the way, 126 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: and is about fifteen billion miles from Earth and still 127 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 4: sending back data. This gold disc was filled with music 128 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 4: and sounds and images of Earth for another alien civilization 129 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: to find. What a fantastic idea. Of course, if anyone 130 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: from another civilization did find this, they too would have 131 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 4: to have a record player and know how to access 132 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: those sounds. Let's say they're smart enough to realize they 133 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: need a record player, or for some reason they do 134 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: have a record player. They would then have to also 135 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: know what speed to play that record at. This tiny 136 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 4: distinction could give them an entirely different idea of what 137 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: we are trying to communicate. Without that specific technology used 138 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: in precisely the correct way, they wouldn't be able to 139 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,679 Speaker 4: access it correctly. So close but yet so far away. 140 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 4: That's the problem. In today's terms. We've all been there. 141 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 4: We want to charge up our phone or another device, 142 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 4: and there's a charger right there, but it turns out 143 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 4: it doesn't fit our exact model. Therefore, we can't charge 144 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 4: up so close but so far away, just by not 145 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: having the exact adapter to fit our device. A charger 146 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: is useless to us. Like the SETI program the Search 147 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 4: for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, this is a great idea. Also, it's 148 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: a telescope array that listens for radio frequencies from space. Awesome. However, 149 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: this too, only works if there's another civilization using radio 150 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 4: signals and using the exact same radio frequency range that 151 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 4: we are listening for, and it's coming from the exact 152 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 4: place in space that we're looking at. Another way to 153 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: think of this perspective is that you could literally live 154 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 4: right next door to a radio station. You look out 155 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 4: your window and there's a giant a ton of broadcasting 156 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 4: all sorts of fascinating information. If you do not have 157 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: a receiver, you can't hear it and it's right next 158 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: door to you. Worse than that, let's say you do 159 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 4: have a receiver and it's right there, but you're off 160 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: by one millimeter when tuning it in, so you still 161 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 4: can't dial in that station, Or maybe you don't know 162 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: how to dial it incorrectly, like with the example of 163 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 4: the rotary phone. You know how to make a call, 164 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: but you don't know how to make a call on 165 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 4: that type of phone. Pondering these examples shows a how 166 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 4: close we might be to make in contact with another civilization, 167 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: but we may not fully see them, hear them, or 168 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 4: realize their presence because we don't understand how to. You 169 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: can imagine how close we might be to understanding another 170 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 4: civilization's messages, but we may just be off station by 171 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: one millimeter. I think it's imperative that we keep an 172 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: open mind with regard to this, as perhaps as our 173 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,559 Speaker 4: technology expands, we will in fact one day be able 174 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 4: to see here or understand another civilization's messages or presents. 175 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: When we come back, we're going to talk more about 176 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 4: how technology and knowledge is continuously changing our perspective. You're 177 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: listening to Beyond Contact with Captain Ron right here on 178 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 4: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 179 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 4: Welcome back to Beyond Contact. Technology, knowledge and our perspective 180 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 4: is constantly changing and opening new avenues of discovery. Microscopic 181 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 4: organisms were discovered in the late seventeenth century. Before that, 182 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 4: the notion of tiny, little living organisms being everywhere surely 183 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: would have been thought of as crazy. It wasn't until 184 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 4: into the eighteen eighties, after the telephone was invented by 185 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 4: the way that we discovered the first scientific evidence that 186 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: microorganisms are even part of the normal human system. The 187 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: infrared spectrum camera was invented around nineteen ten, and it 188 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 4: allowed us to see into the infrared spectrum of light, 189 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 4: which sees beyond what our eyes can see. In nineteen 190 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: fifty seven, French scientist Vladimir Gavro first began researching infrasound 191 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: machines that could hear well beyond that of the human ear. 192 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 4: There are, of course, countless examples of this idea of 193 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: how technology has allowed us to see something that has 194 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: existed the entire time, but it was just out of 195 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 4: reach of our perception. There are, of course, countless other 196 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 4: examples of this idea of how technology has allowed us 197 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 4: to see something that has existed the entire time, but 198 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: it was just out of reach of our perception because 199 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: we didn't have the ability to detect it. Throughout history, 200 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: there have been severe criticisms of anyone challenging the existing 201 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: position or norm. It's a pattern that is repeated over 202 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: and over and over, and it seems maddening to me 203 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: that we haven't grown more open minded as we see 204 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: this happening continuously throughout history. This has spanned across religion 205 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: and science for as long as they have existed. To 206 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 4: this day, it still goes on, and often those who 207 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: challenge accepted archaeological discoveries, for example, are shunned or even 208 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 4: excluded for having those ideas. In an oversimplification to illustrate 209 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 4: the point, it's the notion that many ancient cultures subscribe 210 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: to a flat earth cosmography. Then we realized, of course, 211 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: that the Earth was in fact round. These ideas are 212 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 4: often later established and become the new norm as our 213 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: knowledge evolves, which just shows we all need to be 214 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 4: much more open minded with all of these ideas. Resisting 215 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 4: these new ideas so vorociously seems foolish, as oftentimes these 216 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: ideas eventually become proven correct as we gain more knowledge, 217 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 4: often through technological advancements. I believe many of these things 218 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 4: we currently view as unknowns will become apparent to us 219 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 4: as we gain more technology and thus more knowledge. It 220 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: feels wrong to be so dismissive of these ideas that 221 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 4: challenge the currently held paradigm, as perhaps it's just a 222 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: matter of not having the right person, perspective or technological 223 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: know how don't just dismiss something out of hand because 224 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: it doesn't line up with your current worldview, which will 225 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: one day most certainly be an archaic paradigm. It's always 226 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 4: about relative perspective. We may very well be wrong in 227 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: our assumptions about many of these ideas and discoveries. Perhaps 228 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: the ancient crystal skulls are in fact storage devices that 229 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: hold information about the Earth or the universe, but we 230 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: just don't know how to access it. We may be 231 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: so close and yet so far. Like when people dismiss 232 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: the notion of an extraterrestrial civilization visiting Earth, they are 233 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: speaking from their paradigm using their current technology. They will 234 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 4: often say, oh, you can't get there from here. What 235 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: they really mean to say is you can't get there 236 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 4: from here using the technology that we have today, because 237 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 4: that would take over ten thousand years. The nearest star 238 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 4: is four point two light years away. A light year 239 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: is the distance that light travels in one Earth year, 240 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: which is about six trillion miles for those keeping track, 241 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 4: So if we could travel near the speed of light, 242 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 4: it would take us about four years. With today's current technology, 243 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: we can travel about thirty seven thousand miles an hour, 244 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 4: so it would take us tens of thousands of years 245 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: to make that journey. Obviously, we could develop faster and 246 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 4: faster ways to traverse space, of which several are being 247 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: developed right now. We could perhaps even develop an entirely 248 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 4: new way to move about the universe, or perhaps even 249 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: inter dimensionally. There's speculation we could even fold space and 250 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 4: thus cover vast distances in short amounts of time, using 251 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: what some have called wormholes. As just one example, in 252 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 4: the fifteenth century, you can easily imagine Europeans saying exactly 253 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,119 Speaker 4: the same thing about the new world of North America 254 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: that you can't get there from here. Of course, many 255 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: of them didn't even believe there was a here to 256 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: come to, simply because they hadn't had the technology to 257 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: know better. But of course, when we did discover the 258 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: new world, it would take a minimum of two to 259 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: four months, depending on the weather, to make that trip 260 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: just one way for a reference, that's about fourteen hundred 261 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 4: to twenty eight hundred hours. Quite a journey. Let's again 262 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: imagine you could travel back to eighteen twenty five, just 263 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: two hundred years ago. This is before we had steamship 264 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: technology or even Morrise code. So travel and communication was 265 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 4: what we would consider today painfully slow. Then we developed 266 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: through technology better ships and even planes. Today boats can 267 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: go from New York to London in about one hundred 268 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: and thirty five hours instead of the twenty eight hundred 269 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: hours that used to take. And I bet you two 270 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: hundred years from now that one hundred and thirty five 271 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: hour number will seem painfully slow. We now, of course, 272 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 4: even have planes yet to be imagined technology that they 273 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: didn't have in eighteen twenty five, and the Concord plane 274 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: can make the trip from New York to London in 275 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 4: under three hours. So something that just two hundred years 276 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: ago would take twenty eight hundred dollars now takes under 277 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: three We're talking about one one thousandth of the time. 278 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: I can certainly imagine people in eighteen twenty five saying 279 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 4: there's no way you can get there from here in 280 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 4: anything close to that time. It was simply impossible from 281 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: their worldview, from their state of technology at the time. 282 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 4: So we have to be open minded, and we have 283 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: to remember we are using our current state of technology 284 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: as a point of reference. Many of these unknowns of 285 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: today will surely be within our scope of understanding. In 286 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 4: the future. In nineteen hundred, not that long ago at all, 287 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: the famed British physicist Lord Kelvin stated, now there is 288 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 4: nothing new to discover in physics. What only remains is 289 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 4: to be measured more and more precisely. Wow, holy hubris, 290 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: What an example of us being so egotistically locked into 291 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: our own current point of reference. These these analogies are 292 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: to illustrate the point that things change. These comparisons to 293 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: our technology or knowledge base are from just one hundred 294 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: and fifty to two hundred years ago. They also illustrate 295 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 4: how fast and how dramatic our views, our technology, and 296 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: our knowledge and understanding can change in a very short time. 297 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: And now we are just beginning with another new revolution, 298 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 4: that of artificial intelligence. Already we can see how technological 299 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 4: growth is happening exponentially. One can easily imagine if another 300 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: civilization created artificial intelligence, as seems inevitable, how fast their 301 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: technology could evolve. Not only have they most likely had 302 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 4: a huge jump in linear time on us, but depending 303 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: on when they develop things like AI or perhaps something 304 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 4: even more advanced, something unknown to us, you can imagine 305 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 4: how fast their technological growth would be a civilization reaching 306 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: our current level just one thousand years earlier than we have, 307 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: and you can imagine how far ahead they would be technologically, 308 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 4: and they, of course have had potentially nine billion more 309 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 4: years to develop. Keeping in mind that the accepted age 310 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 4: of the universe is thirteen point seven billion years old 311 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 4: and the accepted age of the Earth is just four 312 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 4: point five billion years old, it seems very reasonable to 313 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: assume that another intelligent civilization in the universe could be 314 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 4: over nine billion years ahead of us in technological development. 315 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 4: Given what we have learned in just the last two 316 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: hundred years, you can imagine a civilization wouldn't need to 317 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: be nine billion years ahead of us technologically, but a 318 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: mere nine million years or even nine thousand years could 319 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 4: mean such a vast difference in understanding of the universe 320 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 4: that it would easily be incomprehensible for us from our 321 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 4: current perspective to even understand. When you consider what a 322 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: profoundly rapid change AI is making in our understanding of 323 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 4: the world in the universe, you can easily extrapolate that 324 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 4: out to a civilization that's a thought thousand or let's 325 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 4: say ten thousand years ahead of us, and you can 326 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 4: imagine how even a slight jump on us technologically would 327 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 4: put them vastly ahead of us. Faced with an advanced 328 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 4: society with higher technology, we may not even be able 329 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 4: to grasp the fanciful notions that they have mastered. We 330 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: just saw how a two hundred year advantage that we 331 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 4: have over those in eighteen twenty five, and how drastically 332 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 4: our understanding of the universe and the human experience is. 333 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 4: And that's from the same species, in the same location, 334 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 4: on the same planet, just simply looking at the world 335 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 4: from a two hundred year difference in perspective. Next, we 336 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 4: will look at how every major advance in science shattered 337 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 4: a previous belief that was certain and everyone accepted as factual. 338 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 4: These new discoveries were often criticized or dismissed entirely until 339 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 4: through technology, we are able to gain the knowledge to 340 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 4: prove them. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio 341 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 4: and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We are 342 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 4: back on Beyond Contact. When you sit back and take 343 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: a look at it, nearly every major advance in science 344 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 4: shattered a previously held belief that was believed to be 345 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 4: a certainty and everyone accepted as factual. I'd like to 346 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 4: run through a series of these examples for perspective. So 347 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: going back to twenty five hundred BC, the Egyptians thought 348 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 4: that the sun god Raw, carried the Sun across the 349 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: sky in the daytime and then brought it back through 350 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 4: a tunnel under the earth at night. This is literally comical. 351 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: Today a nine year old would laugh at this notion. 352 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 4: In five hundred BC, the Greeks first worked out that 353 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: the Earth wasn't flat, going against the common belief that 354 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 4: it was indeed flat. Two thousand years later, in fifteen 355 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 4: forty three, Nicholas Copernicus figured out that the Earth revolved 356 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: around the Sun, at a time when nobody knew that 357 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: the stars were even other suns, and he did this 358 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: using only the naked eye without any technology. Fifteen years later, 359 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: in fifteen nineteen, the Magellan Elcano expedition was the first 360 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: to provide practical proof that the Earth was actually round. 361 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 4: In the year sixteen hundred, Geodorno Bruno was buried alive 362 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: at the stake and his ashes were thrown into the 363 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 4: Tiber River. This was for several reasons, including that he 364 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: proposed that the stars were distant suns surrounded by their 365 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 4: own planets what we call today exoplanets, and he raised 366 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 4: the possibility that these planets might foster life of their own. 367 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: Bruno was tried for heresy by the Roman Inquisition on 368 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: charges of denial of several core Catholic doctrines. He also 369 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 4: believed in pantheism, meaning he regarded the universe as a 370 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: manifestation of God, and he believed in reincarnation of the soul. 371 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: It was only after his death that he gained considerable fame, 372 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: particularly by nineteenth and twentieth century commentators, who regarded him 373 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 4: as a martyr for science. His case is still considered 374 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: a landmark in the history of free thought and the 375 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 4: emerging sciences. In sixteen ten, Galileo pretty much confirmed Comperticus's 376 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: belief that the Earth went around the Sun. At that time, 377 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 4: the Catholic Church classified it as heresy and warned him 378 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 4: to abandon it. It is said that he luckily was 379 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: only spared torture and death like Bruno faced, because his 380 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 4: powerful friends intervened on his behalf. Nearly four hundred years later, 381 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty nine, they even launched a space probe 382 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 4: with his name on it. In the eighteen sixties and seventies, 383 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: when famed scientist Louis Pastor presented his findings on fermentation 384 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 4: in the role of microorganisms, some scientists and medical professionals 385 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 4: were very skeptical of the germ theory because it challenged 386 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 4: the prevailing miasma theory, which held the diseases were caused 387 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: by bad error or vapors. This theory was widely accepted 388 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 4: and ingrained in medical practices of the time, so Pastor's 389 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: ideas were met with much resistance from those who were 390 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 4: invested in the traditional theories. By the late nineteenth century, 391 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: Pastor was proven to be correct and eventually revolutionized medicine 392 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: and microbiology. Another example, in eighteen sixty five, James Clark 393 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: Maxwell's groundbreaking equations introduced a unified theory of electricity and magnetism. 394 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: They were initially met with resistance, as well as experimental 395 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: evidence and technological advances in the late nineteenth and early 396 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 4: twentieth centuries validated Maxwell's theories. The initial criticism finally diminished, 397 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 4: and by the early twentieth century his work has become 398 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: widely accepted and recognized as a cornerstone of classical electromagnetism. Then, 399 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 4: in nineteen twenty three. Again, we're only talking about one 400 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: hundred years ago. Edwin Hubbell and other astronomers all thought 401 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: that our Milky Way galaxy was the entire universe. But 402 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 4: then at the Mount Wilson Observatory in California, they discovered 403 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: the first galaxy beyond our own. Up until then, the 404 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: entire world believed that the entirety of the universe was 405 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 4: just what we now consider our one small, little Milky 406 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 4: Way galaxy. In fact, today we believe that there are 407 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 4: up to two hundred trillion galaxies. It's hard to believe 408 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 4: that just one hundred years ago we thought there was 409 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: one our own that was the whole universe, and today 410 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: we know that we are one in perhaps two hundred trillion. 411 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: Incredible to think we were again wrong by so much, 412 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: and that was just one hundred years ago. But thanks 413 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 4: again to technology, we now know otherwise. The other galaxies 414 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 4: were always there, but we didn't know how to see them. 415 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 4: In nineteen thirty, Alfred Wagner proposed the Earth's continents moved 416 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 4: very slowly over millions of years, and move a long way. 417 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 4: Between nineteen twelve and nineteen twenty nine, he published a 418 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 4: stream of fossil and rock evidence to support this theory. 419 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 4: He died in nineteen thirty, again less than one hundred 420 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 4: years ago. His theory of continental drift was rejected by 421 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 4: most scientists during his lifetime. It was only in the 422 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: nineteen sixties that continental drift finally became part of mainstream science. 423 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: In nineteen sixty four, Peter Higgs of Higgs Boson fame 424 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 4: and his team first proposed the Higgs Boson particles existence. 425 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: At the time, the standard model of particle physics had 426 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 4: not yet even been conceived. It took nearly fifty years 427 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 4: later and the creation of the Large Hadron Collider to 428 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 4: finally prove his theory. He was one of the lucky ones, 429 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 4: as he was alive and able to see his theory 430 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 4: proven true, and he was validated during his lifetime. In 431 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 4: nineteen ninety two, doctor Alexander Wolscand discovered the first exoplanet, 432 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 4: meaning a planet around another star outside our Solar system. 433 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 4: Now we are talking about just thirty five years ago. 434 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 4: This widely held consensus belief at the time was that 435 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 4: there were no planets around any stars period. Thanks to 436 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 4: technology today, we now believe one in five stars has planets. 437 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 4: Around them. Again, we were so far off of what 438 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 4: we now know to be reality. As I mentioned before, 439 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 4: our galaxy alone is known to have between one hundred 440 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 4: and two hundred billion planets, with approximately sixty billion of 441 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: those planets in what they're calling the habitable zone that 442 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 4: could potentially harbor life. Again, that's using our paradigm for 443 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: our type of life. So this could in fact one 444 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: day be an even bigger number as well, And it 445 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 4: could be even bigger yet if you start to think 446 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 4: about the existence of other dimensions or realms. An important 447 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 4: note here is the whole time when science was considering 448 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 4: other life in the universe, it was with the understanding 449 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 4: that there were no other planets in the universe. In 450 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, astronomer Robert Work, working in Hawaii, detected a 451 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 4: strange object traveling through our solar system. This turned out 452 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: to be the first known interstellar object in our galaxy 453 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 4: and was named a Muamua Avi Lobe. The head of 454 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: astronomy at Harvard brought this name to prominence in twenty 455 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 4: twenty one when he speculated that this could in fact 456 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: be a craft from outside our Solar System. In twenty 457 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: twenty a team of researchers led by Jane Graves from 458 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 4: Cardiff University in the UK announced the discovery of a 459 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 4: significant source of phosphorin, which is a biosignature gas that's 460 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 4: closely related to life on Earth in the clouds above Venus. 461 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: These scientists were shamed for claiming signs of life on Venus, 462 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 4: but now they're back with even more evidence and this 463 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 4: is now being considered today. There are countless examples of 464 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: scientists who were discredited and later, often after their death, 465 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 4: proven to be correct. These examples also illustrate how far 466 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: off our accepted beliefs were. I mean by factors of millions, 467 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 4: sometimes trillions. It's astonishing how off we were. Perhaps there 468 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 4: are in fact different dimensions, but we don't know how 469 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: to see them because we don't have the technological know 470 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 4: how yet to do so. Perhaps other civilizations are reaching 471 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 4: out to us, but we don't have the technological know 472 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: how on how to hear and decipher these messages. Given 473 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 4: a little time in technology, our belief system can easily 474 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: be turned on its head. As we've seen. The point 475 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 4: of all these examples is we may not understand what 476 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 4: is happening with all this phenomena in and around the 477 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: UFO field. But that doesn't mean it's not real. It 478 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: may just mean we don't have the technology or the 479 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 4: knowledge to fully understand them yet. And maybe we are 480 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 4: off by one millimeters somewhere from receiving the messages from 481 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: across the universe. We are just now getting to the 482 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 4: point where we are unable to tell if someone is 483 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 4: AI or a real human being. If we did come 484 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 4: upon an extraterrestrial form of AI, and we were somehow 485 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 4: able to communicate with it, we would have no way 486 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 4: of knowing if it's in fact a form of artificial 487 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: intelligence itself or actually an alien intelligent as we would 488 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 4: have no point of reference or perspective on it. Again, 489 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: it seems most likely to me that this would be 490 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: the case, as it seems to make much more sense 491 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 4: for our civilization to send out some form of AI 492 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 4: instead of a biological being to explore the universe. But 493 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 4: then again, of course, I'm thinking with our current way 494 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 4: of understanding, it is clearly ignorant to judge everything by 495 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 4: our current state of technology and our current paradigms. We 496 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 4: all have unique worldviews based on what science tells us 497 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: and what our life experience has taught us, but I 498 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 4: think it's important that we all remember that this will 499 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 4: change in the future, so we shouldn't be so quick 500 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 4: to dismiss other possibilities, as most assuredly, our technology, our knowledge, 501 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 4: and our reference point will most certainly change. Better to 502 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: be open minded when these changes come than locked into 503 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 4: a worldview which will one day certainly be an archaic one. 504 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 4: Speaking of paradigms, check out the website of Danny Sheehan's 505 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 4: organization at the New Paradigm Institute dot org, as they 506 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 4: are doing incredible work on moving our knowledge in this 507 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: area forward. When we return, we're going to take a 508 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 4: look at the latest technologies and how they may affect 509 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: our understanding of possible extraterrestrial communication as well as our 510 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 4: own human experiences. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the 511 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. Welcome 512 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 4: back to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and we've 513 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 4: been talking about the importance of perspective and having an 514 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 4: open mind with regard to ET and UFO issues. We've 515 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: seen how technology can open up a whole new world 516 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 4: to us, often one that was always there, but we 517 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 4: just didn't know how to perceive its presence, and we've 518 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 4: talked about how oftentimes many of these new discoveries were ridiculed, 519 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: were dismissed out of hand, yet eventually those outlandish ideas 520 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 4: were often later proven true. You can see how all 521 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 4: this applies nicely to the notion of alien civilizations. We 522 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 4: have seen throughout history that mankind has been caught up 523 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 4: in its own hubris, when in fact it is very 524 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 4: often wrong in even the basic understandings of the universe 525 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 4: as we now know it to be. There are other 526 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 4: technological developments which could have a huge profound effect on 527 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 4: what we know about the universe and may help in 528 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 4: the search of extraterrestrial life. There's the proposed Habitable World's Observatory, 529 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 4: which would be a large infrared, optical and ultraviolet space telescope. 530 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 4: It would be optimized to search for and image Earth 531 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 4: sized habitable exoplanets in the habitable zones of their stars 532 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 4: where liquid water can exist. There is also the ELT 533 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 4: aptly named the Extremely Large Telescope in Chile's Atacama Desert. 534 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 4: This telescope is slated to be operational in twenty twenty 535 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 4: eight and will be one hundred and thirty feet across, 536 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 4: making it the largest ever built. It will track down 537 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 4: earthlike planets around other stars and could become the first 538 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 4: telescope to find evidence of life outside of our solar system. 539 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 4: The leap forward with the ELT can lead to a 540 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 4: paradigm shift in our perception of the entire universe, much 541 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: like Galileo's telescope did four hundred years ago. Next, I'd 542 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 4: like to talk about us being on the verge of 543 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: yet another scientific revolution which is poised to utterly change 544 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 4: the human experience as we know it. The first part 545 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 4: of this is the onset of artificial intelligence. Given the 546 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 4: digital computing is fundamentally based on mathematics, which is a 547 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 4: universal language that describes patterns, structures, and relationships, these systems 548 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 4: reflect fundamental principles that are likely to be universal. Therefore, 549 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 4: does stand a reason that another advanced civilization may develop 550 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 4: its own form of digital artificial intelligence, and or perhaps 551 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 4: something even more intriguing. As we are just getting a 552 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 4: handle on understanding this technology, we can already see how 553 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: it could vastly improve our space exploration, and as I 554 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 4: mentioned earlier, it seems like a much more logical choice 555 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: to send AI out into space to explore the universe 556 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 4: instead of humans. AI doesn't need breaks, does it need 557 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: to eat, doesn't get sick, doesn't die, doesn't have to 558 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 4: report to the wife. Nothing, It can continuously learn and 559 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 4: send back data to us. We are starting to see 560 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: artificial general intelligence systems emerge that possess general cognitive abilities 561 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 4: that are similar to human intelligence. We are already hearing 562 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: about artificial superintelligence, which is a form of AI that 563 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: would surpass even the best human minds in every field, 564 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 4: including creativity, problem solving, and social intelligence. And it's just 565 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 4: going to continue exponentially from there. Elon Musk is currently 566 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 4: building the world's largest supercomputer called XAI. This computer will 567 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 4: have over one hundred thousand of these specialized Navidia superconductors 568 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 4: to train and run the next version of his gronk AI. 569 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 4: It's just massive. It's being built in a facility that 570 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 4: has overset one hundred and eighty five thousand square feet 571 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 4: and is set to open in twenty twenty five. And 572 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 4: this is not the only one. Others are being designed 573 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 4: to be built right now as well. Not only will 574 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: AI greatly enhance our ability to explore the universe, but 575 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 4: it will give us better technology to understand what's happening 576 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: in our skies right here on Earth. It can help 577 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 4: us search for UFOs by analyzing large amounts of data 578 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: from various sources such as radar, satellite imagery, radio signals, 579 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 4: and even eyewitness reports. It has the ability to identify 580 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 4: things like planets, planes, drones, and the space station. AI 581 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 4: algorithms can be trained to detect patterns or anomalies sifting 582 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: through just massive amounts of information, making it much easier 583 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 4: for researchers to focus only on the anomalies and the 584 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 4: data and investigate those further. Additionally, there are new artificial 585 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 4: intelligence models that can detect alien life. According to a 586 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 4: study published in the scientific journal Proceedings of the National 587 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 4: Academy of Sciences, they say this algorithm can and distinguish 588 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 4: between samples of biological and non biological origin ninety percent 589 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 4: of the time. This method should be able to detect 590 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 4: alien biochemistries as well as things similar to Earth life. 591 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 4: It states that these results mean that we may be 592 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 4: able to find a life form from another planet, another biosphere, 593 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 4: even if it's very different from the life we know 594 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 4: here on Earth, and if we do find signs of 595 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 4: life elsewhere we can tell if life on Earth and 596 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 4: other planets derived from a common or a different origin. Obviously, 597 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 4: this is not necessarily intelligent life, but it will verify 598 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 4: confirmed life out there to mainstream science, which is a 599 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 4: massive step on its own. If we do discover some 600 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: new message sent from an alien civilization, we would need 601 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: AI systems to decode and figure out the translation of 602 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 4: such messages. Not to mention, if we do actually have 603 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 4: an interaction with another intelligence, we would again need an 604 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 4: AI system in order to be able to communicate with them. 605 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 4: AI did start off a language model, after all, and 606 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,959 Speaker 4: as has been said earlier, not only would we send 607 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 4: AI up to Explorer space because AI travels better than 608 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 4: a biologic being like humans, but aliens too would most 609 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: likely be sending some sort of artificial intelligence as well. 610 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 4: So it is actually quite likely that the first official 611 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 4: alien human communication would really be AI to AI. This 612 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: is such a new frontier that we really don't know 613 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 4: where it's headed. Neither do the top people in this field. 614 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 4: For example, Jeffrey Hinton, considered the godfather of AI, has 615 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 4: expressed concerns about the dangers and fears of artificial intelligence. 616 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 4: Here's a couple quotes that he has said on the subject, 617 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: the alarm bell I'm ringing has to do with the 618 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 4: existential threat of them taking control. I used to think 619 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 4: this was a long way off, but I now think 620 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 4: it's serious and fairly close. He also wrote, it's quite 621 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 4: conceivable that humanity is just a passing phase in the 622 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 4: evolution of intelligence. Wow. Pretty incredible. Sam Altman, the CEO 623 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 4: of open AI, has been quoted as saying, I prep 624 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 4: for survival, including AI that attacks us. So clearly, we 625 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 4: really don't know what AI will become or what it's 626 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 4: capable of, but it's important to note how the top 627 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 4: people in this field are clearly concerned. There is yet 628 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 4: another development, also by Elon Musk. They may have an 629 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 4: equally profound effect on the world. That is his Neurallink 630 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 4: company and their brain computer interfaces or BCIs. These are 631 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 4: computer chip brain implants that could potentially transform various aspects 632 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 4: of medicine, technology, and human enhancement in the future. These 633 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,280 Speaker 4: BCIs could enable direct brain to brain communication or allow 634 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: individuals to communicate with outspoken language, creating an entirely new 635 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 4: form of interaction. Not to mention the speed of this communication, 636 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 4: which will be much faster than anything we have now. 637 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 4: As you can imagine, it will continuously get faster. Just 638 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 4: as computers of ten years ago are unusuably slow today, 639 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 4: the same will happen here. More importantly, these brain computer 640 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 4: interfaces could allow for more seamless interaction between humans and 641 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 4: artificial intelligence, enabling an almost cyborg like instant integration with 642 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 4: AI systems. These computer interactions could take place at speeds 643 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 4: ten times as fast as we communicate, and up of 644 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 4: what we now take to communicate with a computer system. 645 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 4: They are already saying that the slow part of our 646 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 4: interaction with AI is the time it takes for the 647 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,240 Speaker 4: human being to input to the computer. Computers can already 648 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 4: calculate one quintillion calculations per second. The human experience as 649 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 4: we know it and have known it to be is 650 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 4: about to go through profound changes over just the next 651 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 4: couple generations, and this is already happening right now. Two 652 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 4: people have already had a computer chip implant, and two 653 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 4: more are getting it imminently. Neuralink is a form of 654 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 4: human augmentation, but this too could potentially assist in the 655 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 4: search for UFOs. It could potentially enhance human perception by 656 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 4: connecting our brains directly to sensors or devices that can 657 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 4: detect signals related to UFO sightings. This enhanced perception could 658 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 4: allow individuals to detect and interpret signals or phenomenon related 659 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 4: to UFOs that are beyond our natural senses. It could 660 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,920 Speaker 4: enable direct access to an analysis of vast amounts of 661 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 4: data related to UFO sightings and experiences. People could analyze 662 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 4: and interpret this data more efficiently, potentially leading to new 663 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,919 Speaker 4: insights and discoveries about the UFO phenomenon. This technology could 664 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,439 Speaker 4: potentially enhance human capabilities and allow us to perhaps gain 665 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 4: a better understanding of many of these different mysterious phenomenon. 666 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,240 Speaker 4: AI and neurlink have a huge potential to utterly change 667 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 4: the human experience and the way we both understand and 668 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 4: interact with our world. Perhaps these technologies will lead us 669 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 4: to be able to detect and even interpret messages from 670 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 4: an alien civilization. Once again, it's possible these messages are 671 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 4: already coming here, we just haven't had the technology to 672 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 4: hear them yet. These are just a couple examples, The 673 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 4: point being that I believe we should stay at the 674 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: very least open minded with regards to these topics as 675 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 4: history has shown us time and time again. Eventually our 676 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 4: way of thinking will become an archaic, ignorant way of thinking. 677 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 4: Hit us up on social media with your thoughts. You 678 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: can reach me Captain Ron on Twitter and Instagram at 679 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 4: CITD Underscore Captain Ron. Stay connected by checking out Contact 680 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 4: Inthethdesert dot com and, as I always say, stay open 681 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 4: minded and rational as we explore the unknown right here 682 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 4: on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 683 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost 684 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out 685 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going 686 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:04,720 Speaker 1: to iHeartRadio dot com. 687 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 3: Mm hmm