1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio Podcast. Hi, guys, 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: so many things. There's a lot happening in the world. Well, 3 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where you know, I 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: feel like it's been a very busy start of the year. Yeah, 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: which usually it's like slow, but it's right hit the 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: ground running. I'm really glad you said it, because I 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: feel really behind with what everything like. I'm like, I 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: keep thinking we're in February because that's how it feels, 9 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: the calendar and all the dates and the flights and 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: all the things. I mean, we just had to take 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: twenty minutes before this to just like look at our 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: calendars and schedules and figure out how to make it 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: all work. But I'm really proud of us because there's 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: a lot of moving pieces. With all three of us, 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: there is. I mean, you've got, you know, kids, but 16 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: you feel busier than when it's different. Yeah, nighttime. Yes, yes, 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: you're like I take that back. You are going, you're 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: driving your kids from here to tim Buck two. I'm 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: an uber driver. It's fine. You're also a cheer mom, 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: which I just got to tell your hats because I 21 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: watched your story. Yeah, Cat, we were talking about your 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: schedules earlier, so maybe feel like those schedules aren't my schedule, 23 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: that's my husband's schedule, and I'm just trying to keep 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: my family unit together fair right anyway. Well, you know, 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: it's just because it's like when I sometimes when I 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: hear your you know, nighttime with I'm like, I'm thinking, 27 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: honestly to myself, I'm like, man, how is that going 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: to work as a co parent situation too? With all 29 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: the different activities And i mean even right now, it's 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: hard because I'm like, all right, on the same day, 31 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: there's soccer and baseballs and dance, and I ended up 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: having to We're we're cutting dance, are you? I am 33 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: hanging up the ballet shoes for just because I've seen 34 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: how good she is a basketball and soccer and I'm like, 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: you know what, maybe she's just the sport and basketball 36 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: and for her age, she's the only girl on the team. 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: I love that, yeah, really, And she was so scared 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: to go and I'm like, baby girl, because what I'm 39 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: trying to do is I'm trying to do things too 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: that have this same day and the same time with 41 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: both kids. That way, it's like not running around because 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: it's hard, right, So not having like the other parents 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: in the house to help go different places. So, uh 44 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: actually feel this. And I have a husband, but like this, 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to any of this, it's all me. 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: So I'm like, if you guys can't do it at 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: the same time, right, we're not doing it. Yeah. We 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: haven't even been able to hang up ballet shoes because 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: we haven't put on ballet. It's hard, it's yeah, and 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: it's different than when we were a little you know 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: what's so interesting My mom, man, my mom. I used 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: to figure skate and she would drive me almost like 53 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: minutes to this rank morning night. She had a full 54 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: time job. I mean, no complaints, just frozen butt off 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: on the stands. But it's like, that's a mom. That's 56 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: what you do. And just like you like you're running 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: like the kids. I mean, that's all you do is 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: run the kids. That's a lot. I also like camp 59 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: out at like hotels for cheer camps, and I love 60 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: it to get the stress of it and how it 61 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: can and it gets stressful, but I love it. I 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: do not know what to do when I have a 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: afternoon evening off, I feel like Nick's a great partner 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: though with it. Oh, I could not do it without. 65 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean, hear me when I say when we were separated, 66 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: I was like, well, here's how we're going to do 67 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: this this day. It doesn't matter whose day it is. 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: You're taking this kid, and I'm taking that kid and 69 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: take an activity to cancel because I can't do it. Okay, right, 70 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: So okay, So Julia's girl back to basketball. So we 71 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: were she was, I mean, she was so nervous, she 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: was crying. She didn't want to go to my baby girl. 73 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: If you don't like it, we give it. We always 74 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: say two to three tries. After two to three tries, 75 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: if you're still, I'm not going to drag you here, 76 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: you know. So it's that wouldn't be fun for anybody either. 77 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: So she she got if you don't like it, let's 78 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: give it two to three tries, like that's our motto. 79 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Two three tries. And so with marriages and sports and 80 00:03:52,280 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: all the things, that's a blanket steak literally three tries 81 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: and after that we hang up our shoes. Can I 82 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: have a fourth? I don't think she wasn't stop. You 83 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: really have nothing on the field with that one. Cramer. 84 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: I didn't mean this soft toss. But I'm real glad 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: you caught that one. I really did. I two to 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: three tries, and um, I just met with your last 87 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: I met with your last last husband. Not in marriages. 88 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: Well that now how it sounded now it was like 89 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: a slam. I didn't mean it to be a slam 90 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: I made. You wouldn't be you wouldn't be the first, 91 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: and you wouldn't be the last to slam me. Whether 92 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: I mean it like that, I mean like you gave 93 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: him two to three tries. No, no, no, like fifteen millions. Okay, 94 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: I liked the other one. That one made more sense, 95 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: the one where I was really awful. I don't like that. 96 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: That made way more sense anyhow, So due to three tries, 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: and so she gets there again, it's all boys, and 98 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, baby, girl, like you got this, 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: you know, like you're so good. They start going in 100 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: a line, you know, a little free throw line. She's 101 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: hitting every single one. I mean, the coach is even like, 102 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: whoa is this? Like she played before? I was like 103 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: not a day in her life, Like I mean I'm 104 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: talking not even like a dribble, not even a practice nothing. 105 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: So she's swish, swish swish, and I'm just like whole 106 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: and Mike. So Mike came to the to the to 107 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: the game or a practice. It's like a practice then 108 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: a game. He walks over and he goes, I think 109 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: she's going to be the athlete in her fad because 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: I look over and I see Jay's just rolling, like 111 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: doing like somersaults like the especially for basketball. Yeah yeah, 112 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: but also like Jolie is just I mean when it 113 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: comes to soccer to like Jays will just sit on 114 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: the field, and Jolie's like she's in people's faces. She's 115 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: like goalie. She's I mean, she's like really defensive and 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: just like she's a strong, strong person, like a strong player. 117 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: And so but what was I was so angry because 118 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: at basketball, so it's again all boys, right, Jolie was open. 119 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: She kept I go, baby, girls stay open. Oh, but 120 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 1: she's got her hands out open. Those boys were throwing 121 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: the ball over her to another boy monkey in the middle. 122 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: And so I say, I text Mike and I go, 123 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: are you seeing this because he's on the other because like, 124 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: because I'm watching Jason, we're like and then we switched 125 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: to go the other one. I was like are you 126 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: seeing this? They're they're throwing the ball over her. Can 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: you please go talk to the coach to be like, 128 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: pass you could pass it to Jolie. She's open. She's 129 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: saying open. I don't like that. So yeah, that sucks 130 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: over her. Yeah, and it honestly, it gets worse. Like 131 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: if you're the player that like may not be the best, oh, 132 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: they will just not pass it to you. And you 133 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: gotta have good coaching to make about not being the best, 134 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: about her being a girl. Well, and here's the thing too. 135 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: So at the very end, the coach was like, good 136 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: job boys, and I go and girls like, I'm just like, 137 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: all right, if we're gonna do this, So after the 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: words was like, hey, well you you talked to coaches, 139 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: you know. If not, I'm going to and I'm not 140 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: gonna like because I'm in a mommy bear this and listen, 141 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: I know she's a girl, but she she's she's hitting more, 142 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: she's making more baskets than some of the boys. So 143 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: don't worry, they'll quickly figure out she's the m v 144 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: P everyone. But if not, we are all going to 145 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: be there in our matching shirts. So it's gonna get 146 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: really obvious and awkward bad. But I having said all that, 147 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where I don't know why. 148 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, I was a figure skater not I was 149 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: never I will never call myself a dancer, but I 150 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: just it's not the route. Not a dancer, well, dancing 151 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: with the stars. But you know how it's like, Okay, 152 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: I think for a long time I really wanted her 153 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: to be and having that realization, it's like, she's she's 154 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: not going to be. It was like a little tingent 155 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: like because I go, hey, baby girl, like do you 156 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: like basketball or dance better? And she's like, basketball, Mommy, 157 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: I want to do this so much more. And I 158 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: was like okay. And then it was like a little 159 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: like my mom had that with me. I'm the jolie. 160 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: She was like a cheer girl and all the coordinated things, 161 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: and then there I came just as polish and uncoordinated 162 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: as I could be. Yeah. Well, it's also like one 163 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: of those things too. I'm like, I'm not going to 164 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: be running around town if I know. That's why I 165 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: pulled her owd gymassics. I'm all right, she she's she's 166 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: not gymnastics wore me out? Yeah, because I remember talking 167 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: to Sean Johnson. I was like, so should I get 168 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 1: her private training? She can she do a cart wheel? 169 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: And I was like no, She's like she should be yeah, 170 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: she should be done. And I was like, great, like 171 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: tell me this, I'm not going to be the mom 172 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: that's like you have a great voice and then for sure, 173 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: but otherwise, like you don't want to be running around. 174 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's where I'm at with Ramsey with cheer. 175 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, like are we gonna go anywhere with 176 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: this or not. I'm spending way too much time and 177 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: money for it to be a lot of money. When 178 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: you when you're on your third or fourth activity, it's 179 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: like all right, time to start, time to start cutting. 180 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: And that's where I was like, all right, let's just 181 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: do like the sports. And so now I'm like Jason, 182 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: what I know he's going to do baseball with Leudgie. Yeah. No, no, 183 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna do yeah, he's baseball's soccer anyways, or we 184 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: got totally off topic. But with the schedules and stuff, 185 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: so we were going to New York in Boston. Uh, 186 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: we've got you're going out with your your hubby, making 187 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: some time with him, I'm trying this year. His schedule 188 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: is crazy, he's touring a lot, and he's got a 189 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: new song coming up. He does Oh can we please 190 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: talk about three favorite colors? Low cash, please pre save 191 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: now and help our kids go to college. Alright, So 192 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: today's episode is all about hot topics. There's some really 193 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: good ones, you know what. I need this show because 194 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: I feel like I live under a rock. The hot 195 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: topics come in from our young little sweet things and 196 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, what, who's doing what? Like I feel in 197 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: my hundred no, because I didn't really know either. Until 198 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: I didn't really know that I did see one that 199 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: I really am interested to talk about. Um. The only 200 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: thing that I remember seeing that came up was about 201 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: the Boy Meets World because I was always like, oh, boy, 202 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: Mean's World because that was just so our generation watching that, 203 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: and then I read it, I I was like, oh wow, 204 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: so let's get into that when we come back from 205 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: a break. All right, So do you guys know the 206 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: whole uh Sean Penn, Robin right, Yes, I love them. 207 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: I love both of them. I love both of them, 208 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: you know. Okay, So um, it says Sean Penn and 209 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: Robin right together for the first time in years at 210 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Airport. They were spending time together. Over 211 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: the weekend, the Axes were spotted together at Los Angeles 212 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: International Airport as they carried their bags up an escalator. 213 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: The actors have both recently ended relationships. Uh. Penn filed 214 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: his divorce from Ulilah in right filed for divorce and 215 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: also two uh they were married from and they have 216 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: a son twenty nine and a daughter thirty one. So 217 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Do you think they're back 218 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: together or just like doing a casual Oh yeah, because 219 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: this is a cat move, this whole escalator. Do they 220 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: got divorced in so it's been years. I don't know. 221 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: Did you see the photos. I don't know. Well, they 222 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: weren't even really like, yes, they were together. They were 223 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: coming up an escalator and she's kind of way behind 224 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 1: him with the bag. Like it wasn't like they were 225 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: all cozy. So I don't know if they just ran 226 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: into each other. They probably maybe they were going somewhere 227 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: with their kids. Well, but I was reading an article 228 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: about that and they um he had said that they 229 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: had very separate relationships with their kids because part of 230 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: the reason they broke up was they had different stances 231 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: on how to parent adult children, which I found very interesting. 232 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: So and I'm like, because that was my thought too. 233 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Maybe they were going and maybe they were, but it 234 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: sounds like they have very separate relationships. Feel like, a wait, 235 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: a reason. Maybe it wasn't the full reason, it was 236 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: just something that he mentioned. I'm like, if you've made 237 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: it that far now, like adults, the difference between adults, 238 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: and it sounds like one parent really wanted to still 239 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: parent even though they were older, and one parent was like, 240 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: and I'm going to guess him, but that's just a guess. 241 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: They're old enough. Let them make their own decisions. What 242 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: do you think is old enough to make? Because I 243 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: think your parent for the rest of your life. Now, 244 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a point where you have to kind 245 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: of let go a little bit. Yeah, that's hard. I 246 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: don't know one that will ever be for me. I 247 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: don't you have to let them. I mean, I even 248 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: think before they're adults, you have to let them make 249 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: some decisions. And sometimes they're gonna, you know, sometimes they're 250 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna fall, and sometimes they're gonna make wrong decisions. But 251 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: that would be hard. I mean, I don't I don't know. 252 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: It is interesting when you think about how people parent differently, right, 253 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: because if someone were to come in, because I knew, 254 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean there was that was one thing like Max 255 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: and I we we parent very similar, um same page. 256 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: But if someone was to come in, let's say, my 257 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: boyfriend and I continue down the road on the path. 258 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: I love it when we dropped the bee where we 259 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: go down that path and it's you know, he's around 260 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: the kids, and what if I don't like the way hear? 261 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: That's that's a thing. I mean, that's definitely a step 262 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: parent coming in. Yeah yet, Enny and Georgia, No, Netflix, 263 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: I need to watch that. He's asking me to watch 264 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: it and george table it. But that's in that it's 265 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: in that Netflix series with it about like why she's 266 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: a little more free reigin I'm a best friend kind 267 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: of parent. And then the step dad mayor comes in 268 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: and it's like this is how it should be and 269 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Well, so he's been we have talked 270 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: about it because he has been in that situation before 271 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: where he had to up in as a uh stepdad. 272 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah that's true. So for a while. Yeah, I 273 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: mean since yeah, I mean because he has two kids, 274 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 1: so um and one of which is from a step 275 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: parents situation. So he's like, and I told him this 276 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: the other day too. I'm like, obviously, like our world 277 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: like whenever I come to see you, it's like the 278 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: bubble like we talked about. But when you are, you know, 279 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: when I'm ready for you to meet the kids and 280 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: where we have it, CON's like it's a different thing. 281 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: He's like, I've He's like, I've already stepped into it. 282 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: I know, and I wanted to I know what I 283 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: said up for what I want to take us to 284 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: a different hot topic because Amalist didn't even I don't 285 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: know if it's allowed. Well, can we just say what 286 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: the X? I think if they were awesome, I think 287 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: sometimes it's all about timing, and I just wonder how 288 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: accurate it is. Where did they just catch the same 289 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: like where they just happened to be at the same 290 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: airport at the same time. The photos to me didn't 291 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: scream oh they're back together. But also I think that 292 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: there's a familiarity. However, you say that word two, I 293 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: mean it's a twenty year relationship. They weren't married that long, 294 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: but it was like an almost twenty year relationship that 295 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: I also wouldn't be surprised if they're both getting divorced 296 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and they have spent some time together. Maybe there's just 297 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: something familiar. Maybe they are a question and I think 298 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: there's something sorry to be said about, Like I think 299 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: it's okay to get back together after some time has 300 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: passed and people have grown. Like I know, I could 301 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: never do that with a certain someone, but like some 302 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: I could. Honestly, I would be like, you know what 303 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna be my question? Are you a girl? 304 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: This goes to both of you because I have a 305 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: friend who is late forties and she and a guy 306 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: friend just keep reconnecting. Because she's like, I would just 307 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: rather know what I know and just catch up with 308 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: him when I catch up with him catch up in 309 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: air quotes, she was like, I'd rather catch up with 310 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: the same person than go try to catch up with 311 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: someone new and learned someone new. I think that's fair. 312 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: So are you a person that would repeat the roster 313 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: or are you someone that's unafraid to do new territory 314 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: if you had the choice, Because I always, even in 315 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: dating younger, was always a repeat roster. I would say 316 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: that I would repeat roster to see if anything has 317 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: changed or if there was a spark, so like there 318 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: had been. There were two guys that I saw during 319 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: hot Grow summer that I had seen back in my twenties. 320 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: That's correct. I forgot about that, and yeah, one was 321 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: yeah they're both yeah, and so yeah, I was like 322 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: I was seven or whatever and both of them around 323 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: that at that time, and so yeah, but either neither 324 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: one of them there was like the spark really wasn't there, 325 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: and so I wouldn't continue just because I had been 326 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: there done. That wasn't a letdown. Did you kind of 327 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: go like, man, I wish it felt like it did 328 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: when I was in my twenties. Uh no, because it 329 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: was kind of affirm because I always kind of wondered, like, oh, 330 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: I wondered if if I was in a different place 331 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: in my life, which I am now, and if we 332 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: could make it work, and I think it and I 333 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: maybe kind of had thought from time to time about 334 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: wondering possibility and it was like Nope, good done, possibility 335 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: gone out the window. Okay, cat repeat for sure? Yeah obviously, 336 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: but I and I mean no, I had a similar 337 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: situation with an ex boyfriend always wondered, went back and 338 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: very quickly was like that, very quick like, oh yeah, no, 339 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: nothing's here. Great. We were meant to be friends. See 340 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: you later. Yeah, And I'm still friends with both of 341 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: those guys, because it's like there was no bad blood 342 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: on either side. I think it was just if if 343 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: someone's not going to can on both sides, don't want 344 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: to put in the effort or whatever too on top 345 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 1: of it, and the like feelings. It sound like all right, 346 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: move along, move on, okay, but all right, repeat I 347 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: was a repeat her. Keep those numbers low and keep 348 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: those frequent shoppers happy. So what do you want to 349 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: say about the bubble? For totop? I think Kat and 350 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: I would like to talk about the bubble is a 351 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: hot topic. Okay. I love that you just threw me in. 352 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: There's well, I didn't actually I didn't even know I 353 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: was going to mention it. But you said you mentioned 354 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: that you and boyfriend I do are in the bubble, 355 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: and recently you were ready to pop the bubble and 356 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: go public. Oh we going here. She's mad at me 357 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: for calling the other one out. I just want to 358 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: talk about the bubble bursting, because would you like to 359 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: talk about my text message that I sent y'all, uh huh, 360 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: Janna doesn't just send it to this is what the 361 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: people want to know. Greamer shots one day just so 362 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: I can go on record. We got to be careful 363 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: sometimes I text stuff to you guys, and I'm like, 364 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, because Screamer will go rogue and she'll screenshot 365 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: something and just tag in it and not even like, 366 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: hey can I pose this? And I'm like, well, I 367 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: wanted to screenshot it something she can bury us, So 368 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: to be careful. There's a lot s h idea in there. 369 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: So so Creamer sends. She doesn't even send like hey, 370 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: what do you guys think? She sends us this full 371 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: full movie trailer, Oh yes to song, start to picture 372 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: montage of her and boyfriend, and she's like, I'm gonna 373 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: go to Instagram with it right now. I'm just gonna 374 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: get and I'm like, okay, whoa, whoa whoa, Like no, 375 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: wait a second. The same where we talked to she 376 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: posted that yes, well I have even more strong and 377 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: I was like nope, no, no, And I keep going 378 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: Protect Scotland. That's my my slogan for all of this, 379 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: because he is Scottish and I just really feel very 380 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: passionate about him as a human and I wanted him protected. 381 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: She's like, I think I just go in. I could tell. 382 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: I could tell she's getting close, and then she got 383 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: silent one and I wrote, and I go back to 384 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: the group tex. It's like, and I answering this cat 385 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: because she's busy posting to Instagram. She's taking her emo. 386 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: She started it with, talked me off the ledge, so 387 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: we had every right to come back and try. That's 388 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: usually what she says right before she hit the post. 389 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: I was like, we're literally talking to each other, like 390 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: like we're behind her back right now. Christ it doesn't 391 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: matter what you say. She's not listening. I go, Kat's 392 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: just me and you on here now, it's fine. And 393 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: then you in silent and I was like, you're calling 394 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: her as a manager, and so then I was like, 395 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm all here, but I'm just here by myself. What 396 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: I've and is I say my piece and then that's 397 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, manager character of thing. I just keep using 398 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: the brave heart. What's wrong with the beautiful video I made? 399 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: It's precious, so great, it is amazing. Which of this 400 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: girl's like just put it out there like a month ago. 401 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: I did not say just put that out there, but 402 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: you know what brought that back to me as like, 403 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: you know what, I am at a place where I'm like, 404 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: you know what, you are transparent. A lot of people 405 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: love that about you. Who cares about the people that 406 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: don't love that about you? Be you? Be transparent? And 407 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: I do stand by that. But I also do agree 408 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: to just give some time and protect it for a 409 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: minute because of your state more than anything, because how 410 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: it can be your state and your country. It can 411 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: affect you because you're not even together, like you're not 412 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: even taking a joke. Well really, I mean we have 413 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: to there there's a whole pond in time zones between them. 414 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: But what I mean by that, Katherine knows where I 415 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: go emotionally, like because people are just me, because people 416 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: are me. Do you guys see that? Katherine s touchy. Ma. 417 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: I don't want to bring attention to it because it's 418 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: such a moment. She's snugly. We brought her to the 419 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: dark side, but now we're holding onto a loan. The 420 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: video was great. I think it was very sweet, and 421 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: then I knew once I said Friday is not a 422 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: good time to do this. She was like, Okay, I 423 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: did I thounds up to it. I think I did, yeah, 424 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: And that's how I knew she was going back to 425 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: Instagram anything. But do you so you feel like that 426 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: might be coming soon? You might let the people know soon, Yes, 427 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: but not because because here's the deal. Everyone knows I 428 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: have a boyfriend that's already out there, and they're already 429 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: trying to figure out who well they already did and 430 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: fine whatever or I mean, you know some have, but 431 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: like it's more like, how do I say this? People 432 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: are going to be mean regardless. So I think it's 433 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: just one of those things where I'm like, why am 434 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: I who cares? Like, um, I know, I'm we're well, 435 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're in a great, good place, blah 436 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: blah blah, But like why, Like people will be mean? 437 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: Yeah again, people will be mean regardless of whether I 438 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: post it, not post it, hold onto it for six months, 439 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: they're going to stay the same thing. Oh this is 440 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: gonna last losing a little. They're all gonna they're gonna 441 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: say all of it whether I post it today or 442 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: a month from now, but or two months from now whenever. 443 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: So I think it's just one of those things where 444 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: we you know, we talked about it and it was 445 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: just maybe when we're together next. I don't know. That's 446 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: what I did. Like that thought of being together when 447 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: it happens, so that way you can like quiet the 448 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: noise and then it's over and then I can post 449 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: and who cares. It's like and it really doesn't matter. 450 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: But I have liked being just holding onto it and 451 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: just really but also you have making a great foundation together. Yeah, 452 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: you kind of also want to buddy the outfit to yeah. Yeah, 453 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: but also it's you know, that's why I said, I'm like, 454 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: but I'm happy and all these things and that that 455 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: feels great and I don't need to. But again, I 456 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: just think it's like one of those things where I'm like, 457 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: all right, I it'd be I kind of want to 458 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: share it, but I love that here. I just don't 459 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: want anything to kill your joy. Right. Well, people are 460 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: going to say stuff again, regardless, there will be people 461 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: that will be nasty and say things, and I just 462 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 1: want you guys to be able to make out after 463 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: people say nasty things. Well, and I think you can 464 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: just be together. I think that's smart. Yeah, as long 465 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: as we're That's why I told him. I was like, 466 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: I just there's so much noise when stuff like that happens. 467 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: And again, there'll be noise regardless. Should be happy. I am. 468 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,239 Speaker 1: And even if it doesn't work out I'm not going 469 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: to feel embarrassed if it. You guys are so cute. 470 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: I want the world to note you together. Yeah, and 471 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: again things don't if if things don't work out, I 472 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: just don't want to. I don't want to. I think 473 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: I was not wanting to do it and hide it 474 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: because I didn't want to be embarrassed if it doesn't 475 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: work out. Because it's so I have been so publicly 476 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: embarrassed with relationships, and a lot of that I own. 477 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: That's my fault because I've been open about him. So 478 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: that's why I've I've been trying to stay more private. 479 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Having said that, I'm like, you know what, who cares? Like? 480 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: We we we we love, we fall out of love. 481 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: We now. I have a feeling this one is different, 482 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: but who knows. I get a lot of messages though 483 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: from people that are like, I love how Joanna still dates? Yeah, 484 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Like I have one of my girlfriends as a mom, 485 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: a single mom, and I think she's in Seattle now 486 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: and she even wrote to me the other day and 487 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: was like, it's so inspiring to me because I just 488 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: get so nervous, and then I see Janna just go 489 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: for it, and I'm like, I'm gonna do this. What 490 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: do people expect you to do? People don't expect you 491 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: to have relationships, to date people, just like they create 492 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: these narratives, and it's like, I could never do me 493 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: show you the narrative, you know, in something that's like 494 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't never do into a place to guess what 495 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: everyone thinks they know your life, they don't you know 496 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: what it is, and just being confident and I think 497 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: that's where And he's the boyfriend has done a really 498 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: good job of being like I could give two craps 499 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: about any of that stuff. And he's just like all 500 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: I care about is who you are today and you 501 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: know us together, And so I feel like even if 502 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: there was noise, that it's he's a safe place to land. 503 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: And I do think your noise is so canceled inside 504 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 1: of yourself that like it's not going to be as 505 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: noisy as it ever was before anyway. So yeah, because 506 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: I'm like whatever people are again, people are going to 507 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: be mean, and we can't go back to our other 508 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: hot topics. That was just a hot topic that I take, 509 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: I go rogue and creamers like, uh, you know what 510 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: I will say. And this is a kind of a 511 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: goes along with this hot topic because Channing Tatum calls 512 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: breakup from Jenna Juan terrifying. He didn't um a sit 513 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: down or not I sit down, but he uh talked 514 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: about the end of his marriage, and I will say 515 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: what I love about. And I also want to mention 516 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: to Anna Kendricks because she talked about how her ex 517 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: and this was on the Armchair Expert Dak Shepherd's podcast 518 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: about UM how she made embryos with this guy, this 519 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: boyfriend and he cheated on her. And it's like, I 520 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:31,479 Speaker 1: I love how celebrities UM that especially have like like 521 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: Anna or Anna and you know Channing. It's like people 522 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: that have always and that never really shared a lot 523 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: are kind of giving you a little piece of behind 524 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: the current, behind the curtain, and I think it really 525 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: humanizes And also it's like, hey, Anna Kendricks was cheated 526 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: on too, you know. It's like it's I don't know, 527 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: it's just nice to have other people kind of talk 528 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 1: about their experiences too and relate for other people as well. 529 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: But it's interesting because they got married really young. So 530 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: I also it's like, um, feeling like you had to um, 531 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,479 Speaker 1: he goes. I think we told ourselves a story when 532 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: we were young, and we just kept telling ourselves that story, 533 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: no matter how blatantly life was telling us that we 534 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: were so different. Uh. And then but when you're actually parents, 535 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: you really understand difference differences between the two of you. 536 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: And so with Kat, I mean, you got married really young, 537 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: so it's like, is that do you understand kind of 538 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: that story they were telling each other. Yeah, And I 539 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: feel for them because I think that that's a hard Yeah, 540 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: people change so much in those years, you know, when 541 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: you're so young. But I also think, and I don't 542 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: know their situations, so I'm not saying what they did 543 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: was right or wrong or anything like that, but I 544 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: think that you can be very different and also learn 545 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: how to navigate that as well, which I didn't was 546 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: kind of hard for me. I mean, like, yes, we're different, 547 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: but we do parents the same. Parenting different, like we 548 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: talked about earlier, earlier would be hard, um, but I think, yeah, 549 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean, people change so much in that time and 550 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: I think you have to figure out, you know, can 551 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: we find our similarities and deal with our differences and 552 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: be the people that we are and be together or 553 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 1: can we not? You know? And obviously they figured out 554 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: that they couldn't, and um, it sounds like it was 555 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: good for him. I think he has some good time 556 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: with him and his daughter and it was a good thing. 557 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: So I feel like I was young the first time, 558 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: first marriage. Young is like I think six, I feel 559 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: that feels young still, no, I mean, yeah, especially these days, 560 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: that definitely. Yeah. And we were together for almost nine 561 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: years I think total. But I was in love with 562 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: this person who when I met him and I was 563 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: twenty four and he was nineteen, was like I could 564 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: be smitten with that personality and that whatever. Course. But 565 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: then when you get to like eight or nine years later, 566 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it was vastly different and to to a 567 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: point where you're like, well, shoot, like we're either you're 568 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: either gonna meet me where I'm at or this is 569 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: just not gonna work. I mean that's where we got to. Yeah, 570 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. He was okay being okay, and 571 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I thought, I mean this was 572 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: okay when you were nineteen, this is no longer okay, 573 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: because we need to like move to the next season. Yeah, 574 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: seasons of change, and I think people can do that together. 575 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: I do too. It just takes a lot of work 576 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: and compromise and figuring it out. But also I think 577 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: it takes strong people to realize, hey, we're not going 578 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: to be able to do this, We're not gonna be 579 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: able to get to that point and we need to 580 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: move on. I feel like I've a lot of empathy 581 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: for them too, because it's probably really hard because they 582 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: were the Golden couple, you know. I remember when I 583 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: saw that they got divorced. I was like, because you 584 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: just they're so they're they're they're the they're the King 585 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: and Queen and you Yeah, so it's it's you know, 586 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: But I'm curious, like how when it comes to parenting 587 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: and which will kind of lead into the next one 588 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: with j Lo and Ben, but how do you think, like, 589 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: how do you guys evolve and build your relationship through parenting. 590 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: I feel lucky because we parents so similar, and also 591 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: Preston really trust me to just kind of take the 592 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: lead on a lot of it. He's gone a lot. 593 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm alone about at least two hundred nights a year, 594 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: so I'm the default. I mean, we do a lot 595 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: of talking obviously, but like he kind of just trust 596 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: me to know what's best. But we do. That's one 597 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: thing I feel like, even when the other stuff can 598 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: get really marriage and gross and noisy, that's one thing 599 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: we always just do well. And I'm just so thankful 600 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: because I have friends of mine that are like, oh, 601 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: my parents so differently, and he's contradicting me, and you know, 602 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: and we have had those times. We It has not 603 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: been rainbows, but like we have had those times where 604 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: he will say something and I'll like later say to him, 605 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: don't do that in front of them again, you know, 606 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: And I've had to apologize for doing the exact same 607 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: thing to him. Yeah. Sure, yeah, we've had that too. 608 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: I think for us, we do parents similarly, I've always 609 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: taken the lead as the kids are getting older, I've 610 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: asked him to take on more, not of the lead, 611 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: but like a bigger role in that and helping me 612 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: because I'm realizing now it kind of makes me the 613 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: bad guy. Also, your ages are like all hands on 614 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: deck ages. They are, for sure, but I like, don't 615 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: always want to be the bad guy. And that's not 616 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: because he's not willing to. He will. It's just because 617 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: I've always been the one to set the rules say yes, 618 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: and so now I'm like, man, I'm kind of like 619 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm the one always saying no. So now I'm the 620 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: bad guy, and so it's it's tough. My daughter told 621 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: me that I am data is the fun one, and 622 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: I am the yes ma'am, mind your manners and yes 623 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: ma'am mama, and I was like, he's the guy that 624 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: comes off the road with like toys, and yeah, I 625 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: mean I can relate that to that for sure, because 626 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, my cousin every Wednesday and then 627 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: every other Friday Saturday, and it's like it has something 628 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: happened on the day on the phone where Jay's constantly 629 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: gets out of it. It's like an hour and a 630 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: half now routine to put him down to bed, and he's, well, 631 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: he doesn't do that Daddy's house. And I want to 632 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: be like because he's only there like the ratio one 633 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: day a week and then every other two days. So 634 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: it's like it's and it's hard for me to be 635 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: like because it's like because they are for fun. Over there, 636 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: it's more it's more fun. And that's where it's like, 637 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, that's where Jace will start to say, like, 638 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: oh like Dad, I'm like, well, you know, it's us. 639 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: It is hard though, because it's like even when Preston's home, 640 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: bed times are a little later, you know, and I 641 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: have to I always feel like I feel like I'm 642 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: so naggy, but I'm like, okay, it's that time. Okay, 643 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm like the fun Police, you know, it's not cool. Yeah, 644 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: we just have to communicate a lot about it. But 645 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: I will say, to answering that question, we've always um 646 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: our like we've our marriage always is strengthened through family stuff, 647 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. Like that's how I've always felt 648 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: close is through family time. Yeah. Oh same, like that 649 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: to me, Like I will take us five doing something 650 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: over a date night any night, and I will feel 651 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: that much more connected. You've had to like learn that. 652 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: He has to learn that about me, whereas he's more 653 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: connected to me and him. I'm getting there. But guys 654 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: are just kind of like that in general, well because 655 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: it's like it's sexy for us to see them in 656 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: as like good dads and like you know, I think 657 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: that is a woman thing or a mom thing for sure. Well, 658 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: he loves one. I one attention pressed us. Yeah. So 659 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: if there's no kids to distract my hands and I 660 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 1: can just have my hands all over his sweet little Leo, 661 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm a king feelings that feels good to him. Yeah. 662 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 1: Speaking of kids though, and blending families, Jennifer Lopez says, 663 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: blending families have been an affleck has been an emotional transition. 664 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Now she doesn't really tap in. I love that she 665 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: said this. It's been a phenomenal year, like my best 666 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: year I think since my kids were born. And I 667 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: just I love that. But I'm three, right part of me, 668 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: isn't she fifty three? And then the you know the 669 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: kids from so there's seventeen, fourteen, ten, fourteen year old 670 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: twins all in one house. Emotional transition, and I was wondering, 671 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't she doesn't touch on the emotional transition. 672 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 1: But I feel like you almost don't have to take 673 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: it negative. You can go all right. It's probably a 674 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: beautiful thing to finally feel like a family. That's where 675 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to take it, right, because the other side 676 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 1: of it is and I remember talking to my niece 677 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: and nephew about this, or because I asked them when 678 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: they were here, like, hey, what's something that I couldn't 679 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: be aware of? And or what where do you think 680 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: some of the uh not issues but like um areas 681 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 1: where you fell into depression or anxiety, and and it 682 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: was the having to be in the different houses like 683 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: of different spouses and stuff. So my my brother got 684 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: remarried after and then after again it was difficult, right 685 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: because they were like being pulled from like familiar And 686 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: that's kind of like how because Jen had her kids 687 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: with a Rod's kids, So I remember that being a 688 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: real emotional Remember that that whole thing she showed it 689 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: was so sad, like the kids like crying, and so 690 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, hopefully this is hopefully that emotional transition was 691 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: like this is a beautiful we're now finally after all 692 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: these years together or is a family? Does that make 693 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: you nervous at all? Think? Terrified? Absolutely terrified, I mean 694 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: literally terrifies me thinking about how because I've done a 695 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: really good job of not introducing the kids to people, 696 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: uh and so, and obviously they haven't met the new boyfriend. 697 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Having said that, you know, we the boyfriend and I 698 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: are talking about future things, and in my mind, I'm like, 699 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: it makes me excited and it also makes me scared 700 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: for just you just never know, right, and with kids, 701 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: and it's like I don't want them to be in 702 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 1: a place where their ground is not as steady as possible, 703 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: Like I want them to be so secure, solid foundation, 704 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 1: and I'm in charge of that. But that's why I 705 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: think it'll be okay. M hmm, I really do, because 706 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: I feel like you put so much effort into that 707 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: piece that I just don't know how it couldn't. Like 708 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: I just was sitting here as you were saying that, 709 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: thinking like, okay, if I'm Jolie and Jason, but I 710 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: always know you're the anchor if i'm them, Like you 711 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 1: make such an effort to make sure that they know 712 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: and that they feel that way, and you provide consistency 713 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 1: even in a world of inconsistency because your career is inconsistent, 714 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: but you still make it consistent for them, right, And like, sure, 715 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: I want to believe in the true love. There's there's 716 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: a side of me where it's like one side is 717 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 1: like love of my life. I'm so excited I'm gonna 718 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: get married, I'm gonna have a family. Like right, there's 719 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: that piece on the other side is like, Jane, be 720 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: real things have you know? You don't this can happen again. 721 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. And so then those doubts and fears 722 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: kind of creep in. And then I always my concern. 723 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: I don't care about me. My heart's been broken a 724 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: million times. I can deal with another broken heart. I 725 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: will be fine. My kids, that's a different story. They're 726 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: older now, they understand more, you know, well, and there 727 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: it's not like you're dragging them to other houses. It's 728 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: not like you're I mean, they know where they are. 729 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: They are here, you know, if they are to meet 730 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: your future boyfriend, like it's going to be okay, no 731 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: matter what happens. Qualifying him first, I mean, you're doing 732 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: due diligence this time. This isn't like a this wasn't 733 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: this isn't hot girl summer. This is like, Okay, legitimately, 734 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: this is a person I'm making an effort to see. 735 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 1: I'm saying that one person. Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. 736 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: Like those people never you they were never in and 737 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: out of their orbits. So for them, it's been a 738 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: long time since they've met anyone, and you're doing such 739 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: a diligent job at like qualifying this human too, make 740 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 1: sure he fits for you, and then make sure he 741 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: could be a fit for them. Like I think it's 742 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: slow and good. Yeah, and off of social media, just 743 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: to circle back, it's going to be maybe another week. 744 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'll give you a tidbit because he might 745 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: be able to come in. So who knows, maybe this 746 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: is it's going to be posted before the same time 747 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: would be maybe the next episode. Uh yeah, so we'll see. 748 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: But um, I mean I can't imagine family. I've said 749 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: that to you before. I just realized my water. But 750 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,919 Speaker 1: I can see where it would just be such a 751 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: mix of terrifying and ex sighting. Yeah, Like there's a 752 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,800 Speaker 1: piece of two that I'm like, man, like, how amazing, 753 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: How cool would it be to like come together as 754 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: how they are like come together as you know, just yes, 755 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: we are a family now, we're a strong family of three. 756 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: But there's so much more love to be had and 757 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,720 Speaker 1: given and shared. And at Courtney Kardashian and Travis Barker 758 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: doing that and doing a great job, you know what. 759 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's doing a great job. Right they are, 760 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: They are are doing a great job. I don't know 761 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: if they're living together. I just remember their families feeling 762 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: like all together. But Christianner's like the queen of blending 763 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: families anyway. So his kids are older though, which is 764 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: um boyfriends are Travis boyfriends? Okay, like Travis is, they're 765 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 1: they're they're you know, they're older. So it's a different 766 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 1: that's And that's another piece too, where I'm like, hey, 767 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: are you sure what you're signing up for? Like you 768 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: were coming into a four year old and a seven 769 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: year old, like they're my world and this is different, 770 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: this is a different bubble, And are you sure you're 771 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: ready for the older kid? Me? Bring it. I know 772 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: you'll be great. I love there's both sides of it, 773 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: Like you're also going in with you know, other kids happy, 774 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: and my kids are going to have aunt Janna that 775 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: loves older kids. Because I like these ages a lot. 776 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: All of it terrifies me. I don't know why, but 777 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: I just have a feeling. No, I'll be fine, Everything's 778 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: gonna be great. Blend the families. Even reading about posting 779 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: we're just blending family. Yeah, I just already I moved 780 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: him in speaking of getting older, David Foster says, it's 781 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,479 Speaker 1: a little bit different raising a toddler. At seventy three, 782 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: I can offer him wisdom. So David Foster is, I 783 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: don't know why it's three. He welcomes son day twenty 784 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: three months and one with wife, with wife Catherine McPhee, 785 00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: thirty eight, having already raised six adult daughters Alison fifty two, 786 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: so his daughters fifty two, his oldest daughters fifty two, 787 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: fifty two year old in a two years in a 788 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: year old. Yeah, I had all daughters until my son, 789 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: and I love all my daughters and immeasurably, but having 790 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: a son is a little bit different. Um at seventy three. 791 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: Seventy three music producers also having to get grips with 792 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: the idea of parenting in later life. So, I mean 793 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: people are grandparents, I mean and then yeah, because I 794 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: mean like Preston's parents around that age, like a great current, 795 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: like my great grand Like no, because yeah, yeah, they're 796 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: like eight eight two great grandparents. So, uh, do you 797 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: agree with the sentiment that he has learned to become 798 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,399 Speaker 1: more patient, has more experience in parenting at older age. Well, 799 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure just in life, I think at that point. Right. Also, 800 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: there's a thirty five year age difference between him and Catherine. 801 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: His age really matter after your mid thirties. Oh my 802 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: biggest gap was my teen years and that was vastly different. 803 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,400 Speaker 1: But I was I was young, like I was twenty 804 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: and he was thirty nine. Oh yeah, so that's a 805 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: huge huh. I can't you, guys, I just don't know. 806 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,479 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna lose a lot of fans 807 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: if I say what I want to say about it. 808 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: It's no say it because it's not. Yeah, that would 809 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: be really hard for me because it wouldn't be hard 810 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: for him. Is that too dirty? I'm just talking about 811 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: the penis nothing hard talking about Thank you for explaining 812 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 1: it to me. I just feel like I'm like, what's 813 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: going on at seventy three? I don't even know. I 814 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 1: can't imagine walking that, And I feel like you would 815 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: be if you're like, actually, it's like okay, Like you 816 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: get it right, That's what I'm saying. That would be 817 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: really hard for me. Like I think, okay, so Preston's 818 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: parents are about five is so in my brain that's 819 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: like what I have to go to you know, like 820 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: they're they're more time mean, not every They're not my parents. 821 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: They're not all created equal either, which you know, not 822 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: all seventy three year olds or seventy three. My husband 823 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: doesn't act his age. I don't think so. But gosh, 824 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 1: thirty five, like you are a young and vibrant and 825 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: wanted to go to dinner and probably stay out past 826 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: like eight o'clock. Uh well, my son, not necessarily. You know, 827 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: I've always loved older guys. We older is one thing. 828 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: You know. Let's go back to Hot Girl Summer when 829 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: there was one guy that was older and I was 830 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: all about it and you were like how much older? Though? 831 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: How much older was he? Who? I just remember this. 832 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 1: I really liked him. Oh he was he was he 833 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: was fifty. Yeah, but that was because I wasn't attracted 834 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: to him, but it was he had Remember, he was 835 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: very he was a big CEO. And I was like, 836 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: I'm not I would I've never I've never did did 837 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: anyone because of money, and I'm not going to start now. Yeah, 838 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: but that was only like what fifteen years or something. No, 839 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: he was fifties six, I mean like getting up to 840 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 1: eight years and he wanted to go out to dinner 841 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: with me, and I was just like and Katherine's but 842 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 1: think about the jet and had little pot I wanted 843 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: about out of the next one birth just saying why 844 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: I turned down the first date and just because I 845 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: just have to be pardon. I feel like I'm just 846 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: not being well spoken when I'm saying that we got it. Yea. 847 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,280 Speaker 1: It's just like there that's a huge thirty five years. 848 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: That's essentially like if you whoever you were marrying is 849 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: born right now. Well, if you put it that way, 850 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: that's a lot of difference in life. I don't know 851 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: if I could ever Okay, so like when you look 852 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 1: at like, I think, isn't whose boyfriend is like super 853 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: young as it chairs? Or I so I can never 854 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: date a young, young, young dude when I in like 855 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: my sixties or seventies, I couldn't never, I don't think. 856 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever do that now if 857 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure Madonna like, but still I couldn't do it. 858 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: While you're looking at me, I feel like I could. 859 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: I could have sex with them are going to be 860 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: done when you're like I'm gonna need the young guys. 861 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,319 Speaker 1: I just couldn't do that. I just feel like there 862 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 1: is such a huge quality of life difference at that point. 863 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,879 Speaker 1: It depends what you want, and that's the thing, right, 864 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,839 Speaker 1: I think I think Catherine has always dated older men 865 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,759 Speaker 1: um and I think I don't know if that has 866 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: something to do with so, like I dated the older 867 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: guys because I had like daddy issues, right, so that 868 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: was like my thing at that time. Now I don't 869 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 1: really I'm not really attracted to older guys anymore obviously, 870 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think, you know, so she's always kind 871 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: of older guys, just like one of those oldsen twins. 872 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 1: I think she did as well older, and so I 873 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: think there's just a difference in right. Everyone loves different people. Yeah, 874 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,240 Speaker 1: and where she's at, she might not care about doing 875 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: the fun things at thirty whatever. She just wants to 876 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: be a mom and the listen. I like older, I 877 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 1: just don't like oldest. That's my official statement. I say, 878 00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: love whoever you want to love, and age discriminate. There's 879 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: a I don't depend on the person you never know 880 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: is not gonna do it for me, probably not me. 881 00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,240 Speaker 1: So moving on to everybody hates me now a seventy 882 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: two year marriage. Really, Wow, we're just getting older no, Bonnie, 883 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: our next four year old woman, the age time no 884 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 1: wife of boy Meat's World, William Daniels was devastated by 885 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: open relationship early into seventy two year marriage. So Bonnie 886 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: Bartlett Daniels is opening up about the painful start to 887 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:04,759 Speaker 1: her seventy two year marriage seventy two years. I just 888 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: find it so interesting we're talking about this now, well, 889 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: because I think this is I'm going to circle back, 890 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,239 Speaker 1: because now people are being more open and honest, and 891 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: they're just now talking about that. She probably can you 892 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: imagine back in so back in Listen struggled as a 893 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: couple after tying them, not in nineteen fifty one. People 894 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: don't talk about their feelings back then. Marriages then well revealed. 895 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: I guess it was a little bit of an open 896 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,080 Speaker 1: marriage at first, but that was very painful. That didn't 897 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: work well, And it was a time when people were 898 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: it was a time when people were doing that. It 899 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: was at a time in New York when there was 900 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: a lot of sex and a lot of people doing 901 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: all kinds of things, you know, very free. But I 902 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: don't know if there was a lack of commitment a 903 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: little bit, and that's not good. She continued, so there 904 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: was a lot of pain connected with any transgression, with 905 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,760 Speaker 1: any extra marital thing. In her new memoir, Bartlett Daniels, 906 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: who we might have on the show, by the Way, 907 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 1: at some point, revealed she never felt guilty about extra 908 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: marital affairs because I never tied to fidelity, and neither 909 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: did Bill. She admitted to having an affair that lasted 910 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,399 Speaker 1: a few months with another actor in nineteen fifty nine, 911 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,560 Speaker 1: but her husband's affair with a New York based producer 912 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: in the early nineteen seventies ultimately left her devastated and 913 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,360 Speaker 1: changed her outlook on the relationship. At that point, she 914 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: can no longer tolerate any kind of open marriage. And 915 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: I think it's remember when we had that conversation where 916 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: if the girl can do it, but when the guy does, 917 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: it's like like that, sound't like this, sound like this, 918 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: This doesn't feel good. That's so true because it's like 919 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: it's your man. Yeah, yeah, I mean again, y'all, y'all 920 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: know where I stand. So I'm not even gonna have 921 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: much input on this because y'all know I don't like 922 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: I could never be in an open marriage, Like I'm 923 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,919 Speaker 1: like boyfriend, like you lie, you cheat, I'm out, peace out, 924 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: like I believe in forgiveness and I'll forgive you and 925 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 1: we can be friends. But I will never let someone 926 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 1: into my atmosphere because I know who I become. Don't 927 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: like it so um and I don't. I don't. I 928 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: don't want to ever see I don't want to ever 929 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: do open I don't want to see my boyfriend husband 930 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: touching another woman. I don't want to touch on that person. 931 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 1: I want to love and cherish this human. However, always 932 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: want to chair someone. So yeah, this is where I 933 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 1: get real, Like we get Detroit. Detroit is like love. Yeah. 934 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 1: Having said that, I get that people want or whatever works, 935 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: whatever works for you. You guys do it, but it 936 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: is there is something to be said when when the 937 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: woman can do it, but then the man then, but 938 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: when the man does, it's like, well, wait a minute. 939 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,840 Speaker 1: Can I ask a question when you say open marriage, 940 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: can that mean they are Does does that mean that 941 00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: they are just going off having other relationships you not included? 942 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: Or can that also mean y'all are both going and 943 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,840 Speaker 1: having relationships with other people. I think you can do both. 944 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: I think both as well, because that also feels I 945 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 1: also think different in a weird way. I also think 946 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: there's different restrictions per couple, like I can together and 947 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 1: then or only these certain acts you could do, but 948 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,560 Speaker 1: not this. Then if you're going off on your own 949 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: and having like what I think of as an open 950 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,760 Speaker 1: marriage where you were literally like can go have sex 951 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,399 Speaker 1: with the you know, with somebody else and that person 952 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: is not included, that feels so much more like cheating 953 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: to me, like months they're staying months. Yeah, I mean 954 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,759 Speaker 1: that just feels like affairs. It doesn't feel like but 955 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean I understand that that's the definition of it. 956 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 1: We have friends that have an open marriage. Wow, and 957 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: as long as he comes back and tells her what happened, yeah, 958 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, it makes me want to get sick. 959 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: But I mean, if you agree, and that's where it's hard. 960 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: But we talked about conversation. Yeah, but it gets to 961 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: a point where it's like then it happens to you 962 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,840 Speaker 1: and you're like, wait, that didn't feel good, and you 963 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: get to go change your mind. I remember I was 964 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,439 Speaker 1: having that discussion. It's like you get to go back 965 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 1: and go, guess what doesn't feel good anymore? And it's 966 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,240 Speaker 1: hard to gain back trust from an open marriage back 967 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: to a full commitment. But it's but as long as 968 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,439 Speaker 1: you guys are on the same page, it can be done. 969 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,279 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm always like advocate, Like I do 970 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: believe marriages can survive infidelity and all those things, but 971 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,759 Speaker 1: like it has to have like so many levels of 972 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: empathy and trust and work and letting go of things 973 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,640 Speaker 1: and be you know, really doing the healing work. But 974 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: it's not an easy road, which is why I also 975 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: know who I become, and that's why I'm like, I'm 976 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: out not happy. No, I will never do that. I 977 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,719 Speaker 1: mean a jealous person, you know, and I would be 978 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 1: jealous hands down, I know it would, and no one 979 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: likes a jealous person, do you know? Jealous insecure? Which 980 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: I can say I for sure have been jealous and 981 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 1: insecure and plenty of relationships. But now I'm weirdly not 982 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,439 Speaker 1: in this one, which is so strange because he lives 983 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: how many thousands of miles away from interesting, I don't 984 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: I trust him with I'm like zero, Like, isn't that weird? Wonderful? 985 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 1: He makes you feel safe in that way. Yeah, well, 986 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: and I guess I've done the work to where I'm 987 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: like all right, you've got a lot to lose if 988 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 1: you did. And he's out like, and I'm good either yeah, 989 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: Like I'm not anxiously attacktching onto this human. I've lost 990 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: my anxious attachment, losing or anxious and you guys, rest 991 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,080 Speaker 1: in peace my anxious attachment. And now I feel like 992 00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: my husband's like, oh anxious atatment by Yeah. I was like, no, 993 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm good either way. I'll make it. I'll be fine, 994 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: but I know I'm okay. Yeah, that's a different It's 995 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 1: a great place to be. It's a beautiful play, wildly 996 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: intimidating for someone who's used to being anxious and anxiously attached. 997 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: That was kind of Nick and I he was I 998 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 1: would say probably anxiously attached. And it took him being like, 999 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: guess what, I'm fine, I'm good, Like it took him 1000 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 1: a minute to get there because but it's yeah, it's 1001 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 1: it is intimidating. Catherine going on our little weekend rendevos. 1002 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: Is not anyone knowing, I'm like, what dating Nick? And 1003 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: we didn't even know. She's like, I'm busy this weekend, 1004 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: do not disturb more? Like who? She went, why can 1005 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: we do that again? I was talking to when we 1006 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: haven't really talked about it, ken if you want. But 1007 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: one of the things I was talking to Nick the 1008 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: other day when we went to go look at the 1009 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: house that I'm building and he was I said, what 1010 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: did I say to him? I said something about, you know, 1011 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 1: how's it going? Like things? You know, things look good. 1012 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: I go, um, I know, you guys are probably out 1013 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: of that honeymoon's like, man, that would have been so 1014 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: I wish we could have stayed in that forever. He 1015 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,480 Speaker 1: was that was the best place, like to like that 1016 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: fun sneaking around like it was. And it's like I 1017 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 1: think also because we got married so young, like I 1018 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 1: don't remember like even dating, Like how old were you 1019 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: when you got married? Yeah, so we were. I was 1020 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: twenty one and we got married. I had a kid, 1021 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,279 Speaker 1: you know, so it's like I don't even remember. I 1022 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, we didn't. Maybe we did. 1023 00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is just so fun, but yeah, yeah, 1024 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: you know sometimes we meet in the car in the garage. Oh. 1025 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: I just want to toss that out to any married 1026 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: coubbles feel like they could use a little moment and 1027 00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:01,319 Speaker 1: where are the kids and sleeping? Okay, that's kind of 1028 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: hot yea where like in a car or oh, I 1029 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,239 Speaker 1: mean back there the only one without car seats. Just 1030 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,759 Speaker 1: to keep it real, humble and very real. Also, as 1031 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: the kids get older, I'm also learning it gets harder 1032 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,439 Speaker 1: because they just keep staying late and they just keep 1033 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 1: like coming in to talk and like that gets me. 1034 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 1: And they also know about sex. Oh so that's weird. 1035 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 1: It's like, don't you have a lock on your door? Well, 1036 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: we do, but like then they wonder what literally did 1037 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: that the other day and it's like it's locked. I'm like, 1038 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: but they're awake. I can't. Like Eden's room is two 1039 00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,080 Speaker 1: doors right there, Like I don't know if I can 1040 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,319 Speaker 1: do it. I mean we did, but you did, but 1041 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: it does it makes me nervous. It would make to 1042 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,879 Speaker 1: go to bed. Yeah, yeah, we have to make car 1043 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: like that would be my luck that they'd walk to 1044 00:54:54,719 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: drive away your neighbors and the nighttime drive you know 1045 00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: that they're saying to keep it alive and they all know. 1046 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: Now it's like now my neighbors, no to it, okay, 1047 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: right for you? I mean, hey, you know, I'm sorry. 1048 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't said no matter time. Oh I thought you 1049 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 1: guys were out of the car in the driveway. I 1050 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,440 Speaker 1: was like, now come on you, guys, you still we 1051 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:30,560 Speaker 1: have a tramp stamp. It used to be Star. It's 1052 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 1: definitely it's definitely not Stars anymore. You'd be rolling by 1053 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:41,640 Speaker 1: Christen's house and they're just like you. That's when I 1054 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: used to pick my tattoo artists based on what they 1055 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 1: looked like, not what they're working like. Joey was cute, 1056 00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: and now I'm stuck with a twenty years scar. Well, guys, 1057 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: I've really done it this time. I love just chatting 1058 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: these hot topics. I love it. All right, guys, Well 1059 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,080 Speaker 1: we done, we kept ourselves. We're out of here, all right. Well, 1060 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 1: here's to Here's to seventy three years and bursting bubble 1061 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: of wine down Yeah, backseat in your driveway. Keep it 1062 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: classy out there, wine downer, I guess. By By