WEBVTT - Fishin' for Praise 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:05.440 Kaboo. If you thought more hours a day, minutes a 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.160 week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.440 of the old republic a sole fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.440 treats crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.560 rich pill poppers in the penthouse to clearing house of 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:23.400 hot takes, break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:28.240 with Ben Maller starts right now. That it does. We 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:35.800 are eating the air everywhere. Happy Saturday, another day of podcasting, 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:42.800 no days off, no days off, eight days a week. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:44.559 This would not be the eight day of the week 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.360 that would be on Sunday, but it is Saturday, and 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:48.239 we're glad to have you hanging out with us on 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:52.680 just the lazy mead May type of day as we 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.800 are chilling in the magic podcast box, and we thank 0:00:56.840 --> 0:01:00.640 you for subscribing and listening and telling of end remember 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.680 word of mouth advertising the most important type of advertising 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:11.560 out there. And stepping in across the point of demarcation 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.800 from the west of the four oh five area, David 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:24.440 gascon for his own n sound of AFFAFT for cretic embarrassing. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.880 I am I'd like to officially nominate myself as an 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:35.400 expert now in Israeli and Palestinian affairs. Um, I have 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:40.920 are we going third row? Have morphed Ben Mallory over 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.640 the last year and a year and a half as 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:44.920 here we go? This is this is you patting yourself 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:50.560 on the back. Have sufferable douchetable I have. I have 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.520 morped myself into an expert in Israelian Palestinian affairs. Check 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:59.360 I'm also a virologist. Check, I'm also a constitutional scholar. 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.520 I'm a c p A. I'm a political savant. Um, 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:07.280 I know all the nuance that is what is happening 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.400 in our world. I mean I have to fit in 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:12.360 with everybody on social media these days. It is just 0:02:12.520 --> 0:02:14.600 I mean it's part of the course, right. I'm also 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:20.800 in tune with the social activism and injustices across the world. 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:26.360 And uh, yeah, I'm an expert. But are you a woketivis? Yeah, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:30.160 I'm not an activist, you're a woke to mcgrifter, Um 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.799 everything in there. I'm a victim. Um, we gotta be 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:37.040 a victim. Listen, there is big money in being a victim, 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.000 and you get a lot of cloud being a victim, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.959 even if you're not a victim. Saying you're a victim, 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:48.440 get you some cash. It does victims Now all jokes aside. Um, 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:53.200 I am an excellent guest booker. Um, I'm relentless of 0:02:53.320 --> 0:03:00.720 my word strong, I'm noble, boyish, charm, I'm noble. You 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.280 have twisted reasoning is what you have. That's what you 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.960 suffer from you do. Earl was really good yesterday. I 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.320 loved the Earl was great. We speak the same language, 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.720 me and Earls at all. No, I don't think. I 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:15.280 don't think I've ever met her. I mean maybe I 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:17.359 was at the King's game. He was at somebody's big 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:20.200 hockey fan. We didn't really get into that too much. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.000 But no, I loved I love talking to her. I mean, 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.680 Earl were kind of close to the same age, and 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.480 we saw our life experiences as kids similar. And he 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:32.160 loved Jim Healy. That's my one of my inspirations to 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:34.760 get in the radio. Do you think Jim Healy radio program? 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:39.360 Do you think Jim would have worked today? Uh? Well, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:41.480 he would have worked up until a couple of years ago. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:47.520 Now No, Now, oh you're fat shaming that guy for 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.000 what he ate. Yeah, you played the pig sound effects 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.360 when the you know, he did, and as Earle pointed out, 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.600 I mean knew, he knew everybody. And I learned later 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:58.960 on that, you know, Jim, a lot of his sources 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:02.480 were the radio report orders that became my friends. That 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:04.880 would be the eyes and ears in the press box 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.400 and they'd take notes on what what foods were being 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:10.440 served and you know what was going on, you know, 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.800 the club house. And Jim he was great because the phrasing, 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.320 the phrasing for you know what I'm doing homage again 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:18.960 to Jim Healy who was an inspiration me and the 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.279 radio guy. If you didn't hear yesterday's podcast in l 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:25.240 A back in the day. But he'd say is it true, 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.680 which is a great way of saying literally anything, And 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.560 you're not saying it's true, it just could be true, 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:35.040 Like you know, it's just it's like the plausible deniability. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:41.120 It's it's a weasel term. Is it true? Dateline Sunset Strip, 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.760 Tommy little Sorta. Yeah, I remember when the sort of 0:04:44.800 --> 0:04:49.560 was selling spaghetti sauce and like a diet program at 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.039 the same time it was he was selling pasta and 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.520 a diet program and heally used to have a field 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:59.039 day with that then. But yeah, fun members everone was wonderful. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.800 I gotta go out and see Arle do stand up. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.080 Now that stuff has opened up again, I gotta get 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:05.520 out there. I got a lot of stuff going on 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:08.760 right now behind the scenes at the old Mallard mansion, 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.920 so I wan't be able to get out anytime, particularly soon, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:15.919 but I will. I put that on my list of 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:17.599 things to do this summer. Like I see Earle at 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.840 the at the comedy club. I love standup. I used 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.720 to go to that. What's that place in Burbank. There's 0:05:22.720 --> 0:05:24.520 a comedy club there. I used to go to. It's 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.880 a small one, isn't it. Yeah, yeah, but my wife 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.480 we went there. The guy from MC Curb Your Enthusiasm, 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:34.280 the Fat Guy. He used to do a gig there 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:35.720 every Sunday night. I think he moved to actually to 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.080 do a club in Hollywood now, and I used to love. 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:40.839 We used to go out there. It was fun. So yeah, 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.200 Jay Lennard would Jay Lennon would go to the her 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:46.760 Most of Beach comedy Store. He didn't do that anymore. 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:48.320 I don't know if he does, but on Sunday nights 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:49.560 he would go there and roll out all of his 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:53.200 content for the week. Um, I heard somebody told me 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.520 that he's still making a killing on corporate gigs. Leno, 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.360 is that true? You think he's it's this night show 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.039 has been on the air. You know, Ty has been 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:03.200 good in years, and uh, Kimmel's not Jimmy kim who's 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:07.240 the Yeah, what's the guy from Jimmy? Yeah he's terrible. Um, 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:11.720 but but Leno, I heard he's still got a lot 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.159 of gigs. Where good for him if that's true, that 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.280 he's making cash older there, I believe that. Speaking of which, 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.160 I watched Saturday Night Live last week congratulated because of 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:25.039 you and didn't go the way I was hoping. Yeah, no, ship, 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:28.440 it didn't go the way you're hoping. And uh, all right, 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.960 I'm in the long game, not the short game, not 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.480 in the know. Think of the macro, not the micro boy, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.720 and I don't be obsessed with it. I remember why 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.160 I haven't watched that show in a long time. It just, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:48.279 I mean short, doing sketch comedies really fucking hard. But 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:54.479 it was painfully bad and unfortunately. Yeah, yeah, I have 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.000 not watched Saturday and I think I watched. The last 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.360 one I watched was when they had I think Eddie 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.240 Murphy came back, remember to Hosted. I watched that one 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:04.760 and I was not enthralled. I didn't think, boy, this 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.000 is great. You know, this is wonderful. I need to 0:07:07.080 --> 0:07:09.720 keep watching this. Yeah, I think it might be an 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:13.280 age thing too, I think, but I generally the comedy 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:17.440 and you're supposed to at least occasionally dabble in the 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.000 third rail. Yeah, we like dark comedy. And that was 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:21.920 part of the reason why I wrought Earl on, Like 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.800 Earl Earl gets after it and some of the ship 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.080 that went on at the roast battles upstairs in the 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:32.360 comedy store. No way you'd have someone videotaping any of that. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.960 But dudes got after guys and girls. And that's what 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.160 I love about comedy. And nobody is safe, right, It's 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.040 like it's like Game of Thrones, like everyone's expected to 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:44.480 get their head cut off one time or another. And yeah, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.680 comedy is so careful now. I feel like you have 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:50.000 all these boxes you can and you can't check off, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:54.200 which is unfortunate because it ruins the authenticity of what 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:56.840 these guys are trying to do and what they write out. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:04.000 And hey, everyone gets offended or something. Nowadays, it's unfortunate. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:08.000 it was. You know, it was tiptoeing around, right, you know, 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.320 I just wanna I don't wanna offend anyone, you know, 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.360 walking on eggshells and all that, which is, which is, 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.640 which is annoying and um so, yeah, I I agree 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.120 with you on that. And uh, I did not see 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.240 the Elon Musk episode. I saw some clips online, but 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:27.640 I did not. He was you could tell obviously he's uncomfortable, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.720 he's raw. But I appreciated it that and he got 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.640 better as the show went along. I thought like his 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.760 opening monologue was okay, but he warmed up, and I 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.199 think the audience warmed up to him later on too. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.079 I just you you have those all all those reports 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.640 prior to him going live with oh well, certain staffers 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.959 are are now permitted to walk away if they don't 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.520 want to work and work on the show with Elon 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.080 Musk and all that bullshits. Oh yeah, the super woke, 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.600 the snowflake Army. I'm gonna go back in their bunker 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.240 and cut it off and suck the thumb in their 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.680 safe space. The oversensitive eye babies that are out there. Yeah, 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.160 it's it's pretty cool, but we do live in the 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.720 age of the professionally offended class. You know that's so yeah, 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:12.000 I am offended boy, say, how dare you shame on 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:15.960 you that? Speaking of that, we will have an awesome 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:19.800 guest next week on our Friday edition to speaking. Are 0:09:19.800 --> 0:09:23.440 you sure? No? No, I'm good man, I'm I'm good 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:26.520 for seven full innings of shut out ball. Baby, I'm 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:28.760 like Garrett Cole. All right, try to go nine innings. 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:30.400 I try to go to nine. You go seven. I 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.800 try to go nine. I'm old school. Did tape record 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:34.120 a lot of stuff in the eighth and ninth in 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.120 things from when I here? So yeah, well, actually the shows. 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:38.800 I don't know we're allowed to say this, but I 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.640 have not done a live show since. That's true. Now, see, 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:45.120 the CDC came out with a report on Thursday that 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.880 said people that are vaccinated don't have to wear a 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.880 mask anymore in outdoor and outdoor settings. So does that 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.240 mean Ben mallad that you're lazy ass will drive to work? Now? 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.679 Does that mean you will actually get up? I'm not vaccinated, 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:01.360 so I don't know. I can't kind of you know, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.640 have you been vaccinating? No? You have not, Well, why 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.520 don't you get vaccinating because I'm young, I'm healthy, I'm 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:10.560 strong and a good immune system. My FICO scores at 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.360 eight oh seven. I think, by the way, can't you 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.360 just say I'm not I'm vaccinated? And then how are 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.240 they gonna like, what are they gonna do? Before you 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:19.800 come into the store there, before you go to Trader Joe's, 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.000 you gotta show you your car. How's that car like 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:27.040 a driver's license? Yeah, how's that gonna work? Papers peppers? Seriously, 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:28.880 how does that get enforced? I don't know how you 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.440 would enforce that. Do you think we have to get 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:33.360 a tattoo now? Like we have been vaccinated? We need 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:37.600 to like they tried that in Germany already. That's a 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.320 good idea. There's the things are at a premium these days, 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:47.120 ben gas, lumber, food and bullets. Yes, yes, all the 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:50.200 key things and in life, have you mixed those together? 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.040 You get a really good time. All the good time 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:56.559 bring all that side by side. So on this podcast, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.959 not that we've already started obviously, but we have how 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:05.679 Low can You Go? And fakery frauds along with along 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:10.520 with pop quiz and well you've got some other things 0:11:10.520 --> 0:11:13.120 as well. But when we start out with the How 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.520 low can You Go? And I've been in the radio 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.720 business a long time, I guess gan I've had I've 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:22.920 had some interesting things happen. I've met some fascinating people, 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:27.800 some people I didn't like, some feeble weaklings. But something 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:33.640 happened this week that just blew my mind. Am I 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:39.679 gonna name this gutless puke? But somebody, somebody I know, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.120 put a caller up the calling in the show, a 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:50.920 planted caller to try to fish for a compliment. I am. 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.960 I'm still shaking. I'm still stunned that someone would have 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:05.000 the hutzpah to deputize, to contaminate, pollute a listener, to 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:11.199 force them to call up and dance around for a compliment. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.880 It really bothered me. Why would someone do that? Do 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.440 you think why would someone I'm not saying it's you, 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.240 I don't know if you or not, I don't know, 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.120 not naming the guilty party, but why do you think 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:29.079 someone would reach out to a listener and plant them 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.680 on the show. It certainly doesn't seem like you know 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:35.559 the proper etiquette. Yeah, I can only assume that you're 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.240 talking about Brian Finley. And if that's the case, I 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.120 think it's for a couple of reasons. One is you 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:43.640 don't acknowledge him a lot. You undermine him at times, 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:48.240 You take unprovoked shots at him, his integrity, his work ethic. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.920 You kind of don't treat him the best that you could. Um. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.560 You dismissed them on numerous occasions. And I think that 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:56.840 you know you we mentioned it we live do you 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.600 think it's not Brian Finley? But how do you think like, 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.920 how do you think this would work? Like? Like do 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:05.800 you think the this? You know someone in radio barely, 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.800 but someone in radio, like, how do you think this? 0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:12.200 Do you think that they just have these listeners numbers 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.680 on their phone and they're like, Hey, I'd like to 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.880 get Bend to compliment me. Well, I could call up 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:18.920 and ask him this question and phrase it this way, 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.600 and then he'll he'll have no no other answer than 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.760 to compliment me. Exhausting much that life be. You know, 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:27.920 the world that we live in is no longer six 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.600 degrees of separation. It's more like three because of social media. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.000 And so you would agree with me that the only 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:38.120 way that certain shows and certain platforms and certain personalities 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:41.280 that are archaic um that have moved platforms from like 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.800 terrestrial radio to something else. They need a little bit 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.800 of a bump they needed, they need support, they need 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:51.400 grassroots funding, they need grassroots marketing, and they can use 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.760 anything at their disposal. And so I think you would 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:56.880 actually agree with me that you're probably more encouraged by 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:03.120 that person's resourcefulness and effort and and longstanding. Where thoughts 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.920 you actually go out there and and have other people 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.520 promote said products. I don't know. I don't know that 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:14.920 I would use the word promote term, but I would 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.560 just think, like, you know, this's just not how I'm wired. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.240 I fight my own battles. I don't deputize people to 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.720 fight my battles there. But I would think, like, if 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.800 you're someone that would reach out to a listener, a 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:32.080 consumer of the Ben Mather Show, and you know someone 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.000 that you you might know I would be aware of 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.360 that doesn't normally call the show and then randomly calls 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.720 up maybe hides behind the veil of social media, that 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.200 that wouldn't stand out like a sore thumb. That's the 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:46.400 first thing. Secondly, UH to think that in that mindset 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.960 that this I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.760 get a listener to call up and again fish for 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:55.320 a compliment. You're as close to the stuff on the toilet, 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:57.520 the back of the toilet and a rest stop on 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.040 the Jersey Turnpike is what you are with that? You 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:05.160 are rotten eggs. You smell like farts. About that? Not you, 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.160 of course, I'm just in a general sense, not you. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.240 I would not It's not about you. I don't think 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:12.320 I would surely hope it's not you. That would be 0:15:12.440 --> 0:15:14.960 very embarrassing if it was you. I think the most 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.160 important thing part of this entire discussion is that whoever 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.760 the individually you're referring to is. I think it's important 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.840 to acknowledge the fact that he or she went directly 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:28.440 to the consumer, not to like outside agencies and looking 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.640 for all these handouts and looking for all these like 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.280 back slabs and mailing marketing routines. It went right to 0:15:34.360 --> 0:15:38.080 the consumer because that is your direct source of consumption, 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:42.120 is the consumer. And I applaud the effort. I actually 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.000 commend whoever that might be. It's it's normal, it's important, 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:47.840 and I don't think it should be lost in the 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:50.680 fact that that you have people working hard behind the 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.920 scenes um for you, UM and oftentimes it's lost on 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:56.680 you because, as you said, you're your own man. You 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.520 don't work with a producer. You don't like working with 0:15:58.520 --> 0:16:01.320 your executive producer. You don't like working with a technical 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.960 director or an update anchor that rereads scripts from like 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.400 seven hours ago. Um, you don't like doing things in 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:10.760 a in a community session, and um you know it's unfortunate, 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:12.800 but uh, you know, whether you like it or not, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.840 you don't pick the people you work with. Um, they well, 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.720 I mean it's it's really just a you know, moral thing. 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:23.200 I was really used to fight my own different sixty years. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.800 Oh you learned? Oh are you admitting that you were 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.000 the person I'm referring to? Did you just admit that 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.520 I did not? I just said you're the way you 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.480 phrase that sounded like you're that's an admission. Well, no, 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.480 I'm just acknowledging that you looked at a different time 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.160 that you brought it up. But I will let the 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:39.120 listener decide the defense. Rest. I think you've just incriminated 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.680 yourself right there, guess Scot I believe you have you 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.160 snotty nose, cry baby. If you have just you have 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.120 just incriminated yourself, and you can hear it unless you 0:16:48.240 --> 0:16:50.640 first edit that out of the podcast. No, I don't. 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.320 I don't fish for compliments. There's actually a fine promo 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.680 that's circulating across I Heart Media and Fox Sports Radio 0:16:56.680 --> 0:17:00.160 with you promoting yourself and me working on the far 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.960 with Ben Maller. So I don't need any additional that 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:05.040 was written for me. I didn't write that, and there 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.199 was a gun to my head to read it. So 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.919 water gun, well it, super soaker is a gun you 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:15.120 can drown from a super soaker probably can't be sure 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.879 to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.840 at two am Eastern eleven pm paciffec. Be sure to 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.639 catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.480 two am eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:30.199 and the I Heart Radio app. All right, so we 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.359 have fakery, frauds, we got We've got to get to that. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.160 So for a long time, my position on social media 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:41.280 has been rather simple. I have said that social media 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:48.680 is the matrix. Well, now I have empirical evidence data 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.440 that that is that is correct, and that we are 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:55.639 all being horn swoggled, bamboozled, and led astray, and that 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.480 It really is a case of if you take the 0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:01.240 blue pill, the story ends your way, cup in your bed, 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:03.199 you believe whatever you want to believe, right, That's what 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:06.359 Morpheus said in in the Matrix. But if you take 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.160 the red pill, you stay in wonderland. And we'll see 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.199 how how deep in the rabbit hole we can go. 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.760 And we're all hanging out, those of us that dabble 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:18.240 in social media into wonderland that you really do not 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.879 know what's real and what is fake. It's all the algorithms, 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:23.119 the box and all that stuff. And I want to 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:26.760 thank a big fan of the Fifth Hour podcast and 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:29.840 also the Ben Mallory Show, our guy, Doug. Doug was 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:34.120 a high for Luten executive in the tech industry back 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:36.040 back and then I think he's retired now, but he 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.160 lives in the Northwest. I don't wanta give exact location. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.160 I don't give me trouble um, not that I don't 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:41.359 think he would get in trouble for this, but he 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.840 send me this story out of the The Wall Street 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.119 Journal somewhat recently, and I wanted to bring up. I 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.639 actually saved it for the podcast because it, of course 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:54.800 is confirmation that I'm right. So there's this net neutrality 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:59.800 battle going on, right, FCC net neutrality. There's a proposal, 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:05.359 it's out there and the Federal Communications Commission, uh, whether 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:09.920 or not they should roll back internet regulation. Right. It's 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.600 a lot of red tape and and and whatnot, and 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.640 we don't need to get into the minutia of that. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:18.440 But the reason this story is interesting and the reason 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.400 I want to talk about it with you right now, 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:25.640 and I think it's very important, is there were let's see, 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:31.360 twenty two million comments, uh that were actually the wait, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.919 hold it made the math on the there's more than millions, 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.880 all right, So i'll deal with you. Let's let's pull 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:40.720 out the calculator and let's type away. All right. So, uh, 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:44.400 there were a bunch of applies online about net neutrality 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:49.880 with the FCC, and so the New York Attorney General's 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:53.280 Office went and looked. I think there were twenty two 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.280 million comments. All yeah, So I did have the number 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.600 of twenty two million comments. I wrote some chicken scratch, 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.880 I can't rewever. So two million comments, all right? These 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:05.879 are the bullet points. Twenty two million comments out of 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:08.480 the twenty two The New York Attorney General's Office went 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.879 to find out, you know, what is real and what 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:13.240 is not. What are these bots, what are the algorithms, 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:15.680 what are the real actual human beings? And there's ways 0:20:15.720 --> 0:20:18.000 you can detect that. So, out of the twenty two 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.360 million comments, what percentage of these comments were not legit? 0:20:21.480 --> 0:20:24.080 What percentage of these comments were total bullshit? I'm gonna 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.160 say nine percent of the comments were not. No, it's 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:32.560 not that high, but you're not far off. Over eighty percent, 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.880 over eighty percent of all public comments filed on net 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:41.760 neutrality to the f c C were bullshit. They were 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:46.200 they were bogus. Eighteen million fake comments. That's the number, 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.080 eighteen million fake comments, more than eighty percent. There were 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.960 only four million legit. About eight point five million of 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.000 the fake comments to the f CC derived from a 0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:01.560 four point two million dollar camp paying paid for by 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.840 someone named broad Band for America, an advocacy group. This 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:09.520 is what I'm talking about, these guests on these lobbyists. 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:12.399 There are what I could right now. I could make 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.760 a few phone calls. I could have three million followers. 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.240 I'd rather somebody buy me followers, but I'm too cheap. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.600 But there are ways you can. You don't know what's 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.480 legit and what's not. We have buddies of ours and radio. 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:28.240 Remember this is a great story who overnight they went 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:31.720 from like two thousand followers to like a hundred two 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:35.280 hundred thousand followers in like two days because they had, 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.600 you know, open up the bank account or they figured 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:39.320 out a way to mess you know men and build 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:42.560 these these body accounts you can make millions of Do 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.520 remember that documentary I watched on HBO about you know, 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.400 there was I think we talked about on this show. Uh, 0:21:48.440 --> 0:21:52.120 it was about making someone on Instagram celebrity and how 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.080 you know you buy these followers and whatnot what goes 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:59.880 into that. But that's mind buggling. More than eighty percent 0:22:00.359 --> 0:22:03.960 of the comments about net neutrality, we're ridiculous. And the 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.160 reason that's important, let me tell you why that's important 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.359 because these dopey politicians they're older than me. Most of 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:13.440 these politicians, they don't understand. They must be real. This 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.600 is what the electorate wants. But no, it's not. It's 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:22.760