Speaker 1: Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for Secret Invasion episode five.
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Speaker 2: Invasion episode five, and in the night out a fairy
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Speaker 1: Secret Invision, we're stepping out of the airlock and into
Speaker 1: the beautiful, gray, radioactive fields of news scrollos for Secret
Speaker 1: Invasion episode five, Harvest, directed by Ali Slim, written by
Speaker 1: Michael Bim and Brian Tucker. We start right at the
Speaker 1: where we ended essentially in the previous episode, the attack
Speaker 1: on President Ritzon's convoy. Ritzen now arrives at the hospital.
Speaker 1: Just Nick Fury wheeling the President of the United States
Speaker 1: into the hospital alone. There's like nobody else, like like
Speaker 1: he's just a guy that got in a minor fender bender.
Speaker 1: Fury is is right there, and he's whispering into into
Speaker 1: Potus's ear. Don't trust Roady, don't trust him, Do not
Speaker 1: trust you're listening to me. He's a scroll is mister
Speaker 1: President blazend to me. We go to new scrollos Gravic
Speaker 1: is returning with the warriors. The mood is gloomy because
Speaker 1: they didn't manage to kill the president and they basically
Speaker 1: got beat by wash Fury and Taylo's rip we were wrong.
Speaker 1: It seems to be very very dead.
Speaker 2: Maybe he'll surprise us in the finale, but for now,
Speaker 2: rip to that scirl, rip to that scroll.
Speaker 1: Gravic is then like, hey, guys, you all fucked up.
Speaker 1: This is on you. We were supposed to kill the president.
Speaker 1: We didn't kill the president, and that's your bad. That
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with me, that's all you. And
Speaker 1: then his his warriors are like, well, hold on a second,
Speaker 1: we killed Taylos. Is that not like something to celebrate.
Speaker 2: Like you didn't do that.
Speaker 1: You've been trying. You didn't do that, You've been trying
Speaker 1: to do it for years. And he's like, uh no,
Speaker 1: it was the mission was the president. The nuclear war
Speaker 1: starts when we killed the president, not Taylor. Yes, Taylos,
Speaker 1: we got him, but like that doesn't start the war,
Speaker 1: which is the whole thing. And then uh and then
Speaker 1: his warriors are like, well, maybe you should have stolen
Speaker 1: the mysterious stuff, which turns out to be Avengers DNA.
Speaker 1: We later to find out where's that stuff You've been
Speaker 1: saying you're gonna get it, and then we find out
Speaker 1: that actually Fury knows where it is. And maybe the
Speaker 1: reason that Fury keeps being still alive is because Gravit
Speaker 1: can't fucking kill him, because he know he needs to
Speaker 1: find out where the Avengers DNA is. And maybe he
Speaker 1: even put Vera up to the task of assassinating Nick
Speaker 1: because he knew she wouldn't do it. And Gravik is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I need that Avengers DNA and that's it. I
Speaker 1: know one. But Fury knows where it is and that's
Speaker 1: enough and he walks away. But then one of his
Speaker 1: officers really starts getting into his ass about stuff, and
Speaker 1: so Gravic has to use his grout arm and then
Speaker 1: he kills the guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: R Pizza Pagan actually a major player in the Marvel
Speaker 2: Universe version of Secret Vasion. He was the scroll who
Speaker 2: impersonated Electra. He was Ranke's lover, but here he's a
Speaker 2: nobody and he died with grew armed Rib's you you
Speaker 2: got killed by a tree?
Speaker 1: This is First of all, I'll start with this. I
Speaker 1: do respect the body count, but it's wild the way
Speaker 1: they just people die and it's just like a throwaway death.
Speaker 1: Like you're like, well, that can't be the legit death
Speaker 1: because we're just like walking away from it. But that's it.
Speaker 1: But you know, Chlos is dead and Pagan is dead
Speaker 1: and Maria Hills are dead. Gravic then calls Scrody on
Speaker 1: the phone. Who is Scrody's real name is Rava, But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call him and continue to yeah, to tell
Speaker 1: him that, to tell the president. He's like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I know you're there with Potus who's banged up and
Speaker 1: probably can cussed and all that stuff. Tell him that, yes,
Speaker 1: the Russians did this, but also the Russians with the
Speaker 1: help of the scrolls, and then tell him about new scrolls.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Rava's like, wait, hold on a second, don't
Speaker 1: we all don't, Yeah, like what's why why would you
Speaker 1: do that? He's like, it's leverage because you don't understand
Speaker 1: Fury Will want to save the lives of innocent scrolls.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got a soft spot for the scrolls.
Speaker 2: Look at his wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's gonna want to save their lives, and
Speaker 1: therefore he will tell me where the Avengers DNA is
Speaker 1: so that the President of the United States, who is
Speaker 1: alone in the hospital, won't nuke Russia aka New Scrolls. Okay,
Speaker 1: why do they.
Speaker 2: Still listen to this man? Apart from the fact that
Speaker 2: he's obviously incredibly handsome and has a very nice accent. Otherwise,
Speaker 2: I'm like, his plans are terrible. He has never killed
Speaker 2: Nick Fury, could have killed him many times. He never
Speaker 2: got the Avengers DNA. He is not a good lead.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It's a leadership vacuum, and I think it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where here's listen here, I'm gonna give the
Speaker 1: Scrolls some hard facts right now, a little bit of
Speaker 1: hard talking to This is tough talk, okay, And I'm
Speaker 1: basing this on not just the events of the MCU,
Speaker 1: but the events of the comics. Hey, Scrolls, You're just
Speaker 1: your leaders are always bad. Look at what's going on.
Speaker 1: You guys are always getting beaten a shit Scroll war,
Speaker 1: secret invasion, the whole thing with the super Scrolls when
Speaker 1: they first came out, the Illuminati going in there just
Speaker 1: like six dudes, just like wiping out your whole thing, like,
Speaker 1: and then you go to the MCU and it's like
Speaker 1: you lost the Kree war or whatever it was that
Speaker 1: drove you away in space and refugee. That was very,
Speaker 1: very tough, and you just don't have effective leadership. It's
Speaker 1: a leadership vacuum. And that's why someone like Gravic can
Speaker 1: come up here. You need to start picking better people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just flopped it. Gravic flucking it like they
Speaker 2: need someone new, they need someone different, maybe an empress.
Speaker 2: Perhaps maybe Sheil will rise.
Speaker 1: It will be nice. I would like to see that.
Speaker 1: I'll say one more thing about gravihc uh, you know,
Speaker 1: putting the new King of New Scrolls in play. I
Speaker 1: also think he's thinking, see these these fucking warriors, they're
Speaker 1: they're ungrateful. I put them in this position and let
Speaker 1: them eat the delicious, the delicious scrull eggplants of their
Speaker 1: whole world.
Speaker 4: And now they dare they dare aladda, and so listen.
Speaker 4: If it doesn't go the way we expected to go
Speaker 4: with the leverage play and the President Nuke's new scrolls,
Speaker 4: fuck him.
Speaker 1: I don't like those people anyway exactly.
Speaker 2: He is just killing them. Seeing the hope Pons meant
Speaker 2: to be like, well, you know, we got to keep
Speaker 2: the scrolls alive. We can't let them get extinct. He
Speaker 2: kills an awful lot of scrolls casually. So I don't
Speaker 2: I think you're onto something. I don't think he really
Speaker 2: likes them.
Speaker 1: So we're back at the hospital where Scrodi is now
Speaker 1: getting off the phone with Gravic, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Fury just mugs Scrody, grabs and he comes out of
Speaker 1: nowhere and he pushes Rody against the wall and he's
Speaker 1: got a gun to his head. The presidents of the
Speaker 1: other room, there's no Secret services around, there's okay, there's
Speaker 1: one secret service. Guy's like what do I do?
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 1: You fucking shoot the guy that's like assaulting one of
Speaker 1: the National security advisor or whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've survived. That isn't he still one? He would have
Speaker 2: got sniped like ten minutes ago. This is unrealistic, unrealistic.
Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody knew what to do. And so uh, you know,
Speaker 1: furious like, hey, we gotta put a stop to this.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fucking You're done. You're done, pal, You're you're
Speaker 1: a scrawl and I'm sick of this and Scirty's like, ah,
Speaker 1: you won't do it. You know why because in exactly
Speaker 1: sixty seconds, the footage of you gunning down Maria Hill
Speaker 1: is going to come out on Access Hollywood. Here, let's
Speaker 1: put on the TV in the in the hospital so
Speaker 1: you can watch it happen. And when that happens, you're fucked, pal,
Speaker 1: You're done in this town and every other town across
Speaker 1: the world wanted.
Speaker 2: I'm bombing Russia is that he already wanted.
Speaker 1: So then Fury is like, Okay, you got me this time,
Speaker 1: but watch what happens next time. I'm gonna fucking take
Speaker 1: care of you. And he goes to walk away and
Speaker 1: then scrode. He's like and by the way, take a
Speaker 1: look at this, and all of a sudden, like two
Speaker 1: dozen after the president and he's like, yeah, that's right,
Speaker 1: they're gonna this is what's waiting for you next time
Speaker 1: you try some ship.
Speaker 2: Some guys who are.
Speaker 1: And Nick Fury is like, yeah, we'll see about that.
Speaker 1: Fury is now an international wanted criminal, which he was previously,
Speaker 1: but now it's real because everybody has seen the Access
Speaker 1: Hollywood TMZ tape and now it's that's it, and we
Speaker 1: all know that apparently Maria Hill is a beloved figure
Speaker 1: just in the world, so people are really really mad.
Speaker 1: News news coverage also strongly suggests, with a shot of
Speaker 1: Portalos and his death agony shifting from human to scroll
Speaker 1: form uh heavily se est that at least one alien
Speaker 1: posing as human was involved in the attack on Ritz
Speaker 1: and so this is already this news is out there. Sonya.
Speaker 1: Now director of s I S goes to see the
Speaker 1: director of m I six weather Be and she shoots
Speaker 1: him in the leg.
Speaker 2: Back what joy to see she doesn't give a fuck.
Speaker 2: She just shot this guy on the leg and what
Speaker 2: I love it. Some more secret service people, this time
Speaker 2: from England. Now they don't know what's going on, they don't.
Speaker 1: They just let they they let it go. I also
Speaker 1: love the way that scroll weather it Be is like, Sonya,
Speaker 1: have you seen this scroll Be? Could there be aliens
Speaker 1: among us?
Speaker 2: Sonya? And she's like, what are you having bit and
Speaker 2: just shoots him right And I love also can I
Speaker 2: just say, like, I feel I understand that this as
Speaker 2: has been promised for the last year or so fatally,
Speaker 2: I understand that, like it's intimate, like these well changed, okay,
Speaker 2: but but why am inn it? Yeah, the Avengers went
Speaker 2: against the Chatari without knowing that, like Thanas was involved
Speaker 2: in stuff that's alien invasion. But like this is coming
Speaker 2: out on TV and like we're not seeing the fallout,
Speaker 2: Like nobody's stressed about it. It's just like, here's an alien.
Speaker 2: He tried to kill the president. Where's the Avengers? Don't
Speaker 2: worry about it, Nick, Fury gives us the Automa. Don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. I just feel like I feel like
Speaker 2: this should be a bigger deal than it is.
Speaker 1: You think you'd think at least Old Captain America would
Speaker 1: be calling Nick on the phone like, Hey, what's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do I need to I'm like ninety five years old,
Speaker 1: But do I need to get sooner?
Speaker 2: Do I need to have some more super soilious errum?
Speaker 2: I know you have some? When did they get the
Speaker 2: Avengers DNA?
Speaker 1: Well? I actually like this part of it, and we'll
Speaker 1: get to that. I can't wait to talk about this
Speaker 1: because this was a wrinkle I actually thought was very
Speaker 1: fury ish. This is something Fury would do. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and honestly a little bit waste it in this particular
Speaker 1: project X ray Vision will be back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We go back to New scroll Os the Cavitier, where
Speaker 1: everybody is in repose, relaxing after a delicious meal of
Speaker 1: steamed scrull eggplant, when Beido comes in and he's like,
Speaker 1: I need to have a word with you Gravic and
Speaker 1: Graphics like what. All the other warriors are watching very closely,
Speaker 1: and Bido's like, well, I'd like to say, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden's like thing, mean, sorry, I got
Speaker 1: to take a call. Gravic's getting a call from Scroti,
Speaker 1: so he has he can't continue this conversation. Couldn't just
Speaker 1: call because he needs to talk to scot It's like, listen,
Speaker 1: my guy with the president is I got it? Can
Speaker 1: I just can you give me five? So while Gravic's
Speaker 1: on the phone, the warriors are like, fuck it, let's
Speaker 1: do it, and they take the opportunity to Julius Caesar
Speaker 1: Gravic and they come up. They put a bag over
Speaker 1: his head. They're beaten the fuck out of him with
Speaker 1: like lunch trays. But unfortunately we all know that uh
Speaker 1: Gravic and apparently no one else except Gaya has taken
Speaker 1: the super scroll procedure, and he's just too strong and
Speaker 1: he fucking groot arms everybody and then executes Bedo Beato
Speaker 1: as a as an example to the rest of everybody
Speaker 1: to just get in line.
Speaker 2: A major character. Apparently we thought he was. We're getting
Speaker 2: a lot of charming acting going on. Thought this was
Speaker 2: leading somewhere. We had some fun theories. Could he be
Speaker 2: Nick Fiery Junior. I would have liked to see it.
Speaker 2: Guess what, No, he's dead.
Speaker 1: Well, he could still be Nick Fiury Junior, although this
Speaker 1: heavily suggests that he is not.
Speaker 2: They could have Nick Heary Jr. Captured in a scroll
Speaker 2: device and then Beato could come back because he was
Speaker 2: really Nick feared ju No, I'm sure that he's just
Speaker 2: bad and got grew armed. Are to Beto? Sorry that
Speaker 2: happened to you? Are they not sick of gravit yet?
Speaker 2: Like these people did? They not have trying to kill?
Speaker 2: I tried to kill because like he's just killing that
Speaker 2: friends that family remembers, like and that just kind of like, Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and take him out once and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, go down. Guya gave herself the super squirrel procedure.
Speaker 2: By herself using a.
Speaker 1: Bruce walk in there walk.
Speaker 2: And you can have a groom or the powers of
Speaker 2: Corvus glaive like you will be okay.
Speaker 1: Guya has a meeting with Fury Uh in the safe
Speaker 1: house in Brixton where they were Fury originally welcomed the
Speaker 1: scrolls to Earth. Uh. She is of course distraught because
Speaker 1: her father died, you know, thousands, if not millions of
Speaker 1: light years from home for absolutely no fucking reason. And
Speaker 1: she's like, my dad was a loser. This sucks. Nick
Speaker 1: is like Nick then tries to get her ready for
Speaker 1: the big game. It's like, hey, guy, it's fucking game seven, okay,
Speaker 1: fucking Gravit is gonna nuke New Scrollers. Cris Act has
Speaker 1: just been attacked. There's been an attack on Russia already, Like,
Speaker 1: we gotta you gotta get your head in the fucking
Speaker 1: game right now and get ready to take on Gravic.
Speaker 1: And we can talk about what a loser Ta Loose
Speaker 1: was later, okay, but we gotta deal with what we
Speaker 1: have in front of her us what's going on with
Speaker 1: the super scroll shit. And Guy is like, okay, here's
Speaker 1: what it is. Here's the DNA that's in the super
Speaker 1: Scroll procedure. But here's the thing interesting note apparently this
Speaker 1: was this is just like the beta version of super Scroll.
Speaker 1: Gravic wants stronger DNA that he calls the Harvest, and
Speaker 1: he apparently can't get it. He's been looking for it everywhere,
Speaker 1: so he has to use this backup like playing BD.
Speaker 1: Guy says, and now that's all the information I have.
Speaker 1: I need to go bury my dad, who's a loser
Speaker 1: according to the ancient Skrull burial rights. And I don't
Speaker 1: know him, so I need some help with that. And
Speaker 1: so Fury's like, go see Vera, go see my wife
Speaker 1: because she knows all about that stuff. I'm going to Finland.
Speaker 1: Sonya then visits Skrull scientists posing as human scientists. They
Speaker 1: live somewhere out on the countryside, and because apparently a
Speaker 1: director of SIS goes on doorknock missions, personally, she's the point.
Speaker 1: She's first in the door, not like the SWAT team.
Speaker 1: She will go in herself and she's like, hey, I
Speaker 1: know you guys are pretending to be humans. You're working
Speaker 1: on some kind of super project that is mysterious for Gravic.
Speaker 1: Tell me what it is or I'll have the guy
Speaker 1: that's standing behind you blow your head off, and they
Speaker 1: try to like him, and Han be like, well, it's
Speaker 1: a very complicated type of thing, and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: shut up, I'm gonna kill you. And so they tell
Speaker 1: her and then they're Sonya's having her people burn their
Speaker 1: house to the ground. But then the husband Scroll scientist
Speaker 1: they may not be married. I don't know what their
Speaker 1: relationship is in real they're undercover or whatever it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that the dude's Scroll is like, well, fuck, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: kill my partner Scroll because I can't let her fall
Speaker 1: into your hands, and she cauld give up the whole
Speaker 1: plan and tell everything that's going on about what the
Speaker 1: super scroll thing is. Yeah. So Sonia's like, well watch this,
Speaker 1: and she just like shoots him in the head. He
Speaker 1: has no reaction. He just gets shot in the head,
Speaker 1: watches her pull out the pistol and is like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's is that a pistol? Are you gonna aim it
Speaker 1: at me? I guess you're not gonna aim in a
Speaker 1: weird I guess it would be me. But but all
Speaker 1: these thoughts are going through his head unfortunately at the
Speaker 1: same time as the bullet, and he.
Speaker 2: Is dead, so many dead scrolls.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them dying. Guy goes to see
Speaker 1: Vera and they do the funeral, right, and it's actually
Speaker 1: a shame that this is actually good, pretty good and emotional,
Speaker 1: and I wish it was more like this. Roady shows
Speaker 1: writs and evidence of new scrollos and also scrawl participation
Speaker 1: in the attack of the convoy and the existence of
Speaker 1: this scroll colony in Russia, and he's like, you know what, listen,
Speaker 1: crazy idea, Why thats just fucking bomb that ship. He's like,
Speaker 1: but it's on Russia, Russian soil. Wouldn't that start World
Speaker 1: War four or three or how many do we count
Speaker 1: the titarian invasions. It's like, yeah, don't worry your just
Speaker 1: launch it, Okay, I just don't worry about.
Speaker 2: The President is like in hospital, in bed, looking mad,
Speaker 2: fucked up, no one around, no one around him.
Speaker 3: He knows not to trust Roady, or so he should
Speaker 3: know because Fury told him that, but also wears fury
Speaker 3: and wears a secret service, and like, you literally could
Speaker 3: not even get into that hospital if the president will
Speaker 3: looks he looks.
Speaker 1: Like a dad that got heat stroker, like a dad
Speaker 1: that got heat stroke at his kid's soccer game would
Speaker 1: have people around him than the president of the because.
Speaker 2: He has a wife I don't know, a mistress, I
Speaker 2: don't know the president, and he's just chilling and we
Speaker 2: see a lot of deaths. But it's like they could
Speaker 2: have at least given us a hint, like if I
Speaker 2: saw some like dead bodies being dragged into a hospital room,
Speaker 2: like the scrolls were killing people, but no nobody cares.
Speaker 2: This is this is proof like they're overly concerned with
Speaker 2: the role of president, even though the president doesn't really
Speaker 2: have an interior life or any kind of people around him.
Speaker 1: So there's something no one running running things?
Speaker 2: Where is everybody?
Speaker 1: Where is everybody? Gravic, who then has a great cell
Speaker 1: phone plan because this guy's making international calls like it's nothing,
Speaker 1: calls Fury and says, why do you colling new scrolls?
Speaker 1: Like you gotta take your eye on pills because it
Speaker 1: is on the side of a of a of a
Speaker 1: defunct nuclear reactor. But you should come out here and
Speaker 1: let's talk about things, and also bring the Harvest aka
Speaker 1: the Avengers DNA because unless you do, guess what, I
Speaker 1: have my guy at the President's elbow, and the president
Speaker 1: is pretty fucked up, and so he is in a
Speaker 1: state where he's very suggestible and he just might know
Speaker 1: nuke Russia and nuke New Scrolls and everybody's gonna die,
Speaker 1: so you better do something about this. Fury is like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll see, And then next thing you know, Fury is
Speaker 1: with Mason, Tasha's fixer from Black Widow. The guy cameo
Speaker 1: and he's like, here, Fury, I got you some stuff
Speaker 1: and I got you a plane, and Fury is like great,
Speaker 1: and then Mason's like, not even thank you?
Speaker 2: Like what Mason a person who is allowed to be
Speaker 2: sassy to Nick Fury. That's what we line, because he
Speaker 2: just you'll cranky all bitch, go to sleep. I'm sick
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he just like got a Jeep six plane,
Speaker 1: like on credit for Nick Fury, Nick Fury did Nick
Speaker 1: Fury did the Venmo go through? Like is Nick Fury
Speaker 1: gonna zell him the money for this? And like you
Speaker 1: could at least say thanks anyway. Vera leads Guya through
Speaker 1: the funeral rights. Gaya is, of course very sad that
Speaker 1: it's only the two of them. She's like, my dad
Speaker 1: was a hero. Now all of a sudden, he's a hero. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my dad was a hero of the Scroll people, and
Speaker 1: there should be a fucking funeral parade for him. And
Speaker 1: now it's just the two of us, and she's very sad,
Speaker 1: and that is actually very that's really evocative. Gaya asks
Speaker 1: why Vara didn't kill Fury and Vera. It takes a
Speaker 1: very long, wited way to say. Basically, she was in
Speaker 1: love with Fury, even though it was like yeah, like she.
Speaker 2: She loved him, she was fun of him, like she
Speaker 2: didn't want to kill him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she didn't want to do it. And she
Speaker 1: was for Gravit trying to force her into doing it,
Speaker 1: but she didn't want to do it. And now that
Speaker 1: she's refused that particular jobs, she's ready. When Gravic's people
Speaker 1: show up to kill her, she's ready and she can't wait.
Speaker 1: And guess what, they're here. That's a good, great timing
Speaker 1: because they're here everywhere. They are bad shots. And so
Speaker 1: Vera and Guaya put on backpacks. Why do they put on.
Speaker 2: Better bulletproof vests?
Speaker 1: I guess because it has like like ammomags.
Speaker 2: It was a weird sequence.
Speaker 1: It was a weird It was definitely a weird like
Speaker 1: backpack product placement. Anyway, they go like Jane Wick on
Speaker 1: these scroll hit squads and it's actually pretty cool. Cool
Speaker 1: very quickly, it's over veryica. They absolutely take them out,
Speaker 1: no problem. Sonya goes and meets Fury when he lands
Speaker 1: in Finland and we learn Fury is wearing the the
Speaker 1: the Widows Veil digital mask from the end of Captain America,
Speaker 1: the Witch Soldier and Ding Ding Ding Di Nink foreshadowing alert.
Speaker 2: Right, because you said this mosque was going to show up.
Speaker 1: Yes, I knew that this was going to show up.
Speaker 1: So Sonya says, hey, the Widow's Veil. Uh, Like don't
Speaker 1: you don't they do? Don't They change the whole body now,
Speaker 1: so it just changes your face and like the rest
Speaker 1: of your body remains you and Nick Fury says, those
Speaker 1: are the those are the newer versions. This is the
Speaker 1: you know, one point oh version. The two point oh
Speaker 1: versions do the whole body and absolutely we are going
Speaker 1: to see that version of the product.
Speaker 2: Also, can I just say, Nick, you had this the
Speaker 2: whole time. Why when you came from Ath didn't you
Speaker 2: just put this on? Like you didn't need to be
Speaker 2: Nick Fury coming down from Ath. Everyone could have just
Speaker 2: thought Nick Fury was in space and like, none of
Speaker 2: this would have happened.
Speaker 1: I bet you. It's like a battery issue, Like it's
Speaker 1: really hard to charge.
Speaker 2: I only lost for like long enough to get through customs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they head out to go get the thingy.
Speaker 1: Sonya tells Nick that she told Roady about new scrolls
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, that guy's a scroll.
Speaker 2: What are you doing? Why did can I just say that?
Speaker 2: Why didn't he? Like text time? Let her know? You
Speaker 2: gotta keep her in the loop.
Speaker 1: You gotta be like, hey, what's up, Sonia? Uh, just
Speaker 1: want to let you know, Rody a scroll? Okay, talk later,
Speaker 1: can't talk.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: So you fucked up, Sonya. That's a scroll And now
Speaker 1: he has vital intel and she's like, oh well. He
Speaker 1: also tells her that Gravic is threatening the nuke Russia
Speaker 1: and then tells her, uh, what the new Harvest is? Now,
Speaker 1: here's what it is. Fury wanted the DNA left behind
Speaker 1: by the Avengers after that big fight against Stanos's people
Speaker 1: actually like a thing Fury probably would have thought of
Speaker 1: in the comics.
Speaker 2: I will say, I think this is where the show
Speaker 2: and our discord has had some really cool chats about this.
Speaker 2: I think this is where the show needed to go
Speaker 2: more and to commit more to, which is the realities
Speaker 2: of the kind of person you have to be to
Speaker 2: rise to the top of Shield. We need to see
Speaker 2: more of Nick's complexity, how he was complicit with the system,
Speaker 2: how he did fucked up shit like taking the fucking
Speaker 2: DNA of his friends and sending a scroll to do
Speaker 2: that when that immediately put them in danger. Like, I
Speaker 2: think that there is something really interesting and far more
Speaker 2: compelling about that espionage element of like the realities of
Speaker 2: what you have to do to be in Shield, to
Speaker 2: ignore the terrible things they do, the terrible things you
Speaker 2: have to do. The fact that he has essentially been
Speaker 2: using the scrolls, and how interesting it would be to
Speaker 2: see maybe a recognition that he never really had that
Speaker 2: much urgency to get them a home world.
Speaker 1: That would be cool.
Speaker 2: I think that is age interesting angle, and I think
Speaker 2: you're right. I think this does feel like something Fury
Speaker 2: would do when you think about him contextually. I just
Speaker 2: wish they leaned into it more in the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, man, that's a cool detail. It's
Speaker 1: a shame that the rest of it is not as cool,
Speaker 1: as it reminded me of the thing from Civil War
Speaker 1: in the comics, when Thor is offworld at this particular
Speaker 1: time in Marvel Continuity, at least as it pertained you know,
Speaker 1: he's in his own book, of course, but at least
Speaker 1: as it pertained to the larger ongoing events of the
Speaker 1: Avengers and six one six, and so Thor was just
Speaker 1: like not around, and all of a sudden he shows
Speaker 1: up for one of the big fights. There's Thor, and
Speaker 1: he looks like the younger version of Thor, and they're like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck. And then it turned out that Tony Stark,
Speaker 1: the very very first meeting of the Avengers, when they're
Speaker 1: figuring out what to do with Loki, Tony Stark combed
Speaker 1: his couch and got one strand of hair from Thor
Speaker 1: and then put it away, and then later on cloned
Speaker 1: and combined the cloning with like with like a cybernetic
Speaker 1: like skeleton to create basically a robot slash clone Thor
Speaker 1: called Klor by the fans, not officially, but the fans
Speaker 1: called it Clark. And I thought, man, that is so
Speaker 1: devious and such a such an immoral move by Tony Sarp.
Speaker 1: But also something you would do, and that's what this
Speaker 1: Nick Fury thing reminds me of, Like, that's kind of
Speaker 1: something Nick would do.
Speaker 2: It does and it establishes something that's really important. So
Speaker 2: we've talked quite a fair bit about how the original
Speaker 2: super Scroll cut. That's how you pronounce it. It spelt like KLRT.
Speaker 2: He had the fantastic fource powers, right, that was the thing.
Speaker 2: But later on the super Scrolls as they grew, could
Speaker 2: have the powers of many different heroes, right, So this
Speaker 2: is essentially establishing that law. And they're going for that
Speaker 2: core Avengers team because a this is a great narrative
Speaker 2: way for them to have gotten that. Oh Fury did
Speaker 2: that early on, before he really had relationships with them.
Speaker 2: He wanted to get that DNA. He sent Gravic to
Speaker 2: get it. That's like a fucked up thing to do.
Speaker 2: So it's interesting. And then in the future you get
Speaker 2: out of this situation where you've essentially had to make
Speaker 2: this beta version of a super Scroll who has powers
Speaker 2: that are not necessarily the powers anyone would pick from
Speaker 2: the A list heroes. So I think this is very
Speaker 2: interesting and it really leans into that comedico thing. So
Speaker 2: while I don't necessarily think we're going to see any
Speaker 2: cool super scrolls with like lightning powers or shape shifting powers.
Speaker 2: It's also very interesting as well, because if you think
Speaker 2: about the Avengers, whoms among them really had like DNA
Speaker 2: that had powers it was I think that the only
Speaker 2: one that you could really super scroll easily would be Hulk, right,
Speaker 2: if it's based on DNA. So I think we could
Speaker 2: definitely see a Hulk scroll that kind of thing. But
Speaker 2: are we going to see it in the finale? I
Speaker 2: feel like the odds a low, but I feel like
Speaker 2: it sets up the future of what the super scrolls
Speaker 2: could be. And the super scroll Threat agreed, X ray
Speaker 2: Vision will be back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. So Fury wanted this DNA left behind
Speaker 1: after the big, big fight against Santos's people upstate at
Speaker 1: Stark's Avengers facility up there, and so Fury put Gravic
Speaker 1: in charge of the project collecting DNA evidence as just
Speaker 1: like a normal person able to shape shift and get
Speaker 1: in there and just like fill up test tubes with
Speaker 1: various goop. Now Fury has to give him the DNA
Speaker 1: or else. So this is all Fury's fault and that's why.
Speaker 1: And Fury's like, that's why I came back from space.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I was just I know, I'm married and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I wasn't gonna come back.
Speaker 2: He's like, fucking shit, I'm staying in space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, space is chilly. They then go to a small
Speaker 1: mausoleum in a cemetery out in the woods out here
Speaker 1: in Finland, and this is one of Fury's secret caches
Speaker 1: of equipment and stuff, which is another thing from the comics.
Speaker 1: Nick Fury is constantly getting thrown out of shield, fired
Speaker 1: by shield, wanted whatever, thrown out of the country, fakes
Speaker 1: his death, whatever, but he's always got stuff because I forget.
Speaker 1: They actually put a number on it, didn't they And
Speaker 1: they're like four thirty seven the book.
Speaker 2: It's hilarious.
Speaker 1: At one of the stories in the last ten years,
Speaker 1: they actually put a number on how many Nick Fury
Speaker 1: secret bases there are. So this is a very very
Speaker 1: very Nick Fury thing. And he picked Finland because apparently
Speaker 1: he and Vara had honeymoon here. Those scrolls like the cold,
Speaker 1: he says, and he also hit the the DNA. There
Speaker 1: the DNA. He opens up at the top of a
Speaker 1: fucking tombstone and there is a vial of clear ish liquid.
Speaker 1: Who knows what that could be?
Speaker 2: DNA? Is that also like booms zooms DNA? Also? Okay,
Speaker 2: So if it's the end game fight rather than the
Speaker 2: Battle of New York, which is what I misunderstood, maybe
Speaker 2: I'm like, is it Carol? Is it? Like Fanos? Like
Speaker 2: who is it? There's so many DNAs that would have
Speaker 2: been at that fight. That's basically opens up the world
Speaker 2: to any any hero or many alien villains.
Speaker 1: It's literally every single every single word person.
Speaker 2: Was just in that that vial.
Speaker 1: And then he goes over to the other little part
Speaker 1: of the Mauslium where he has his regular stuff, and
Speaker 1: he gets his battle eye patch and he gets.
Speaker 2: His but it was not important.
Speaker 1: And now Washed Fury is ready and he and he
Speaker 1: takes out his phone and he calls somebody and he says,
Speaker 1: it's time, let's finish this. Who is he calling?
Speaker 2: Grabbic? I guess like Roady Scroll, Roady the President. Maybe
Speaker 2: he's like Hill Hill.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. I mean why yeah, But that's
Speaker 1: like one of those things.
Speaker 2: Why would it be that she was too busy to
Speaker 2: film the five episodes?
Speaker 1: I don't do you think they got somebody? Like did
Speaker 1: they get like Sam Wilson or something for one episode?
Speaker 1: Do they get an actual hero for one episode to
Speaker 1: like come in and be like, hey, I need your
Speaker 1: help for one episode to help defeat the scroll a
Speaker 1: million scroll invasion of Earth.
Speaker 2: Think so because Nick has like a very funny monologue
Speaker 2: in this episode where he's just monologuing to Sonia but
Speaker 2: how the only person who could beat the scrolls is
Speaker 2: him because he's got a brain that was trained by
Speaker 2: his single mom, and only he knows, yeah, to beat
Speaker 2: the scrolls, and like the Avengers don't know. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: I feel like Captain America would be like useful. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like you could just fee the way that soldier.
Speaker 2: I like to see if his male arm has something
Speaker 2: to say about those scrolls. You know, maybe you call
Speaker 2: the Guardians of the Galaxy, seeing as they have group powers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like Nick is overestimating his own nick importance.
Speaker 1: Nick, let's take a look at it. Okay, In the
Speaker 1: multiple alien invasions that have taken place in the MCU
Speaker 1: right battle of Battle of New York, the Avengers took
Speaker 1: care of the Chitari. You were up there on the
Speaker 1: fucking hell carrier which crash and then you lost control
Speaker 1: of one of your nukes, so how does that look?
Speaker 1: And then endgame, where's the Where were you just chilling
Speaker 1: Infinity War? Would you would you got glipped and then
Speaker 1: you weren't around? And then endgame you weren't there. They said,
Speaker 1: like go out and see.
Speaker 2: I don't understand why the man who literally put together
Speaker 2: the Avengers initiative because of an alien invasion is now like, oh,
Speaker 2: there's an alien invasion, but I don't need the Avengers.
Speaker 2: This is why you put them together and come on
Speaker 2: like there is a million scrolls and like, I guess
Speaker 2: what I would say is like I feel like maybe
Speaker 2: they could have been like a bit more narratively clear,
Speaker 2: like maybe he's like a shamed that the Avengers DNA is.
Speaker 1: That would have been then, so like that would be
Speaker 1: I understand that. I don't want him to I don't
Speaker 1: want him to know about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want it. I feel like they didn't
Speaker 2: go clear enough on that. So do I think an
Speaker 2: event I think maybe I think he was probably on
Speaker 2: the phone to like Gravic being like we're gonna be done.
Speaker 2: This is done, We're gonna finish it. But like, do
Speaker 2: I think may be someone could show up at the
Speaker 2: end and be like, why didn't you call us? This
Speaker 2: is so dumb and like punch a scirl senf.
Speaker 1: Like probably it's really weird.
Speaker 2: I don't think Gravic is probably gonna survive the finale.
Speaker 2: I think I don't think he's a I think he's
Speaker 2: a little dam villain. I also just am very interested.
Speaker 2: I guess Carol is the obvious option, especially with the
Speaker 2: Marvels coming next.
Speaker 1: Now, obviously we didn't mention her.
Speaker 2: Director Ali Salim has been quite clear saying he didn't
Speaker 2: think about continuity, he didn't think about the Marvels. Okay,
Speaker 2: so maybe that was a red herring. I feel like
Speaker 2: Carol kind of makes sense, but we know that at
Speaker 2: the moment she's quantumly entangled with Kamala and Monica, So
Speaker 2: I don't know, it feels like somebody should show up.
Speaker 2: But the biggest question I kind of have is like
Speaker 2: it in the most kind of chillway possible, Like what what?
Speaker 2: I want to know what happens in the finale that
Speaker 2: changes the outcome of the MCU, because currently what's going
Speaker 2: to have happened is the scrolls came, they didn't have
Speaker 2: a home and we started secret Invasion and the end
Speaker 2: of this is going to be the scrolls came. They
Speaker 2: didn't have a home, and they still don't have a home,
Speaker 2: Like I need to know what the game changing thing is.
Speaker 2: So I think the President's gonna die. I think that
Speaker 2: will set up President Thunderbolt Ross or the President will
Speaker 2: be a scroll. Potentially. I thought maybe Taylos would become
Speaker 2: the president, so it was kind of like a puppet
Speaker 2: scroll president, but who was human friendly or something. And
Speaker 2: I would love to see them mulrooney come back, but
Speaker 2: I think it's more likely that he's going to die
Speaker 2: and that power vacuum that is in the scrolls will
Speaker 2: be reflected in a power vacuum in America, and then
Speaker 2: we'll kind of lead to Thunderbolts. That's my guess, but
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like who would if you were going
Speaker 2: to pick like three characters who are most likely to
Speaker 2: show up in the finale, who would you pick? Obviously,
Speaker 2: apart from Mason because he's already in there, so don't
Speaker 2: don't sell the.
Speaker 1: Larger gosh from the larger MCU, I would say, Sam Wilson, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say, oh, well, you know what if I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I'm blanking on Florence Pew's Elena.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say I think she's also because she's asked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Yolena could be there. But then my
Speaker 1: reality brain kicks in and says, there's no way they
Speaker 1: landed Florence Pew for this one for this one episode.
Speaker 1: But that would make sense, Taskmaster.
Speaker 2: Maybe I know. That's why I'm like, is it so
Speaker 2: are we missing? Are we gonna get? You know, who
Speaker 2: actually would make the most sense? I guess is like,
Speaker 2: and she does. We know she loves doing TV. She's
Speaker 2: a TV legend. Maybe you get the Contessa Valentina Alegra d'fonte, like,
Speaker 2: maybe that's because because also was Mason working for her.
Speaker 2: He was Black Widows fixer. It's unclear if he was
Speaker 2: kind of involved in the early Thunderbolt stuff because like
Speaker 2: Elena was that, So maybe her, but I think it's
Speaker 2: more likely. I think part of the reason that there's
Speaker 2: such a high kill count in this show is because
Speaker 2: they're killing off characters instead of continuing them onto the MCU.
Speaker 2: Like the MCU, so I will be interested to see
Speaker 2: what occurs. And Coulson, oh my god, could would actually
Speaker 2: be saying that would be.
Speaker 1: So good, really cool.
Speaker 2: That would be really actually And that's like Coulson's there,
Speaker 2: That's who he was on the phone to, and he's
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 2: Would be great. I would be a huge fan of that.
Speaker 2: And I think it I wonder if maybe all of
Speaker 2: this leads to the creation of the Scroll with a
Speaker 2: certain set of Avengers powers or one of the Avengers
Speaker 2: powers or something, and that becomes our actual, like our
Speaker 2: actual like singular first Scroll. Yeah, Kirk Clerk, like you
Speaker 2: know it's yeah. I wonder if that's going to be
Speaker 2: the one thing that might carry over going forward, because
Speaker 2: I feel like it hasn't necessarily added a lot of
Speaker 2: law or kind of substance to the wider MCU, which
Speaker 2: I do feel like most of these shows, no matter
Speaker 2: whether I've been a big fan of them or haven't
Speaker 2: been a huge fan of them, most of them, I
Speaker 2: feel like have been additive. And this is the first
Speaker 2: one where I'm sort of like not sure what the
Speaker 2: additive nature of it is going to be. So maybe
Speaker 2: it is going to be like a proper singular super Squirrel,
Speaker 2: or maybe it'll just be like a funny, completely interior.
Speaker 2: Nothing really changes, and if people haven't watched it, it
Speaker 2: won't affect them going forward.
Speaker 1: I was hoping it was going to be like this
Speaker 1: was gonna set up the kind of underground Nick Fury
Speaker 1: that we saw like in the mid arts when he
Speaker 1: was running around with kid Aries and Daisy Johnson and stuff,
Speaker 1: going from like hideout to hideout, maybe now with with
Speaker 1: Kurt or some other scrolls and that's his like, you know,
Speaker 1: like counterintelligence agency that only works for the heroes. I
Speaker 1: thought that maybe that's where we were gonna go. But
Speaker 1: I also still feel pretty strongly like, man, it feels
Speaker 1: like Fury could die.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does like it does. It would be I
Speaker 2: would be sad to see it happen because I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Sam is such a core part of like the success
Speaker 2: of that CEU, and but yeah, it does definitely feel
Speaker 2: like that. And as we know, you can always bring
Speaker 2: somebody back in those spaces like it it's not for
Speaker 2: definitely not forever, especially in the MCU.
Speaker 1: Well, the final episode of Secret Division is next week
Speaker 1: and we will be here for that up next nerd Out.
Speaker 2: In today's nerd Out, where you tell us what you
Speaker 2: love and why, a theory you're excited to share, or
Speaker 2: a quick question that we can answer. Rob shares some
Speaker 2: thoughts on Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade. Hi, Rosie
Speaker 2: and Jason loved the Indiana Jones episode recently, thank you
Speaker 2: wanted to share some fun theories from The Last Crusade. Okay,
Speaker 2: first theory, the guy who originally gives young Indy the
Speaker 2: hat was apparently intended to be Abner Ravenwood, Marion's father,
Speaker 2: but any details hinting at that were scrubbed. That's cool.
Speaker 1: I wish they had quest that and.
Speaker 2: I agree very Rob, they should have left that one in. Second,
Speaker 2: and the main reason I decided to write in involves
Speaker 2: the ending with a selection of the Grail. Last Crusade
Speaker 2: was probably my favorite movie for a time as a kid,
Speaker 2: and I've seen it countless times over my life, but
Speaker 2: it wasn't until I showed it to my significant other
Speaker 2: for the first time recently that she brought this to
Speaker 2: my attention. In the Grail room, Elsa volunteers to choose
Speaker 2: the cup for Donovan, which of course kills him my
Speaker 2: significant other. Matter of fact, he states, wow, she gives
Speaker 2: him the wrong one on purpose. This completely blew my
Speaker 2: mind and is actually quite obvious in retrospect all those
Speaker 2: years watching it, and never once occurred to me. I
Speaker 2: think that her horrified reaction is that she didn't really
Speaker 2: know how gruesome it would be when he drank it,
Speaker 2: rather than actual surprise. Now I will say I actually
Speaker 2: never considered that she gave it to him on perpose.
Speaker 1: I never considered this, and I'm considering it right now,
Speaker 1: And honestly, it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Rob, your significant other has just blown up last crusade
Speaker 2: for us.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I never considered that, But that actually makes so much sense.
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't she do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's got she she got what she wanted, and
Speaker 1: now she can potentially leave without the entitlements of having
Speaker 1: having to work for this crazy guy, and she could
Speaker 1: go back to Nazi Germany and live exult in the
Speaker 1: in the victory of the thousand year right.
Speaker 2: Well, and guess what, sorry to her, she's going to
Speaker 2: die in a fog instead.
Speaker 1: And you know, God, yeah, that makes a lot of
Speaker 1: sense actually there. Wow, I want to rewatch it.
Speaker 2: I know I'm going to have to rewatch it. That
Speaker 2: was really good. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Rob.
Speaker 2: If you have theories, passions, or quick questions you want
Speaker 2: to share, hit us up at extra at crookad dot com.
Speaker 2: Instructions as always are in the show notes.
Speaker 1: That's it for us, Rosie, any plugs.
Speaker 2: I'm going to San Diego Comic Con very early tomorrow morning,
Speaker 2: which means by the time you listen to this, I
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Speaker 2: So if you don't make it, Tenny of Panels, feel
Speaker 2: free to say hello if you see me. I'll be there,
Speaker 2: massed up and probably wearing very flowy clothes to hide
Speaker 2: from the ninety degree heat that I'm sure will be
Speaker 2: boiling us all alive.
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