1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, welcome to the almost of his podcast. Ben. 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: How are you doing? 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: I'm doing fantastic today. I'm in Warsaw, Indiana. I'm stanning 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 3: at the Generous Coffee Shop. 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: It looks dope. I mean it's just like bare bones, 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: but it still looks really cool. Keep it rustic looking. 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the meeting rooms that are going 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: in downstairs. Looks legit. So life's good. It's really good. 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: My puppy is enjoying the lake. I'm enjoying the lake, 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: and everything is, you know, functioning as they should. It 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: feels like I. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: Have some Hollywood news to share with everyone. Yesterday Jared 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: and I met Tom Cruise. It was one of the 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: coolest experiences of our entire lives. Like Jared and I 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: how that happened. We got invited to a intimate creator's interview. 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm a mission impossible, will be on TikTok soon and 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: it was everything beyond, beyond everything we ever imagined. I 20 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 2: can go on and on. It feels like a different 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: time and place type thing to explain everything that went down. 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: But like, listen, guys, we had like this crazy intimate 23 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 2: conversation with Tom Cruise, and he gave us so much 24 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: of his time and like was the most thoughtful active listener. 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: We have always joked about how it would be to 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: meet Tom Cruise, Like it's always He's always been one 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: of our favorite actors, probably Jared's number one. He's up 28 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: there with you know, Leo. I guess he's tied with 29 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 2: Leo for me, and holy moly, like we've joked about 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: it because we always knew that he would be so 31 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: like incredibly like kind, warm and friendly and it was 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: like even crazier than we ever imagined. And all give 33 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 2: a play by play some other time, let Jared do 34 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: it on social media or something. He's gonna have to 35 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: like create a rael Er TikTok about the experience. And 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: today we are going to cover the red carpet of 37 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: this possible New York premiere and we are we're thinking 38 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: that we're going to be able to interview him, which 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: we're really excited about, especially Jared. He's just gonna like 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: totally nerd out. Yeah, we're doing it for Showcase Cinemas 41 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: and he apparently stops for all press. The top gun 42 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: red carpet took three hours for him to complete because 43 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 2: he gives that much time. And then a couple days 44 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: ago in the Rome premiere for a Mission Impossible, he 45 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 2: took over two hours. So we're really excited. But even 46 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: if we don't get to talk to him again today, 47 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: like yesterday was really one of the most memorable, memorable 48 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 2: experiences will ever have. 49 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: How much time did you actually have with him? Was 50 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: it like a nice hug, high nice to meet you, 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: or did you get to like actually talk with him. 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 2: No, No, we talked to him and the publicists and stuff 53 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 2: got a little bit annoyed because he came in and 54 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: he was already an hour and a half late. But 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: let me tell you, he walked into this room and 56 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: he went up to each group and like individual in 57 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: the room and said like, thank you so much for 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 2: being here. How are you doing today. I'm so sorry, 59 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: I'm late. I had to deal with some business, but 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 2: I apologize like it was the most like just thoughtful, 61 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: considerate person and it is exactly who I kind of 62 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 2: imagined him to be. And Jared and I got to 63 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: share the fact that, like when Jared and I first 64 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: met in Paradised, one of the first days, we were 65 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: sitting around a group around the campfire and I heard 66 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: overheard Jared quoting Jerry Maguire, which is one of my 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: top three favorite movies. And he wasn't just doing a 68 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: classic line. He was doing like the whole scene from 69 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: like the Walk in where he goes, I'm looking for 70 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: my wife in front of the whole like X group, 71 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: and I was like, I must be that man's wife. 72 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: And then we told him that moment and how it 73 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: transitioned to at our wedding, how we did the reading 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: of that scene, and he was like, I'm so honored that, 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 2: like my work can inspire such romance and Jaron, Yeah, 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: it was like so crazy. Oh, it was awesome. I 77 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: could go on and on and quote the entire conversation. 78 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 2: It wish was on film, but it's almost more special 79 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: that wasn't on film or wasn't on camera. We did 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: get a group picture with some other TikTokers, so so 81 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: cool and yeah, and then my other Hollywood needs. He 82 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: met both of his toms, both of his toms, and 83 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 2: then next week we are going to a Matchbox twenty 84 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: show and he'll be able to have more memories with 85 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: Rob Thomas It's like, Jared, You're trifecta of your toms, 86 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: Like they've all lived up, You've all had the the coolest, 87 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 2: most personal moments with all them, not just like handshakes 88 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: and hello, but like a moment. 89 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: I hope that every person comes off of the bachelom 90 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: Bachelorette franchise gets to have five percent of the opportunities 91 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: that you do because you give me some cool stuff. 92 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: We were like, we lived the craziest, coolest life. We're 93 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 2: so appreciative of all these insane moments that we found 94 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 2: ourselves in, like real dreams come true. Can't imagine much more? No, No, 95 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: like wildest dreams. Yeah, really cool, Okay. And then the 96 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: other Hollywood news that I have is I will be 97 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: on Stars on Mars. I am part of the Stars 98 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: on Mars cast. I went in late, so I'm a 99 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: late arrival with three other stars. You can now watch 100 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: it on Hulu. Wasn't allowed to talk about it until 101 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: after I made the premiere on the show, which was 102 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: you know last night or tonight late if you guys 103 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: are listening right after we've released the podcast episode. It 104 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: was a very cool experience. They simulated Mars on Australia 105 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: in the middle of freaking nowhere Australia. Ben, I know 106 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: we previewed this before on a previous podcast, but did 107 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: you do you feel open to talking about how they 108 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: asked you first and you said no. 109 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: I didn't really say no. That's the thing that makes 110 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: me mad. Yes, we can talk about it. I did 111 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: get asked, and then I just didn't have the full 112 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 3: month to give up. 113 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, they asked you for three weeks, and they asked 114 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: me for two weeks because he was going to be 115 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: original cast. 116 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I couldn't be there the whole time, and they 117 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: said we'll move on from you, and then they moved 118 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 3: on to my co host actually, and I'm for her. 119 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: I am excited, but I'm really bombed. 120 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry. I felt so bad when I found 121 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: out this whole story for bun It's so good. 122 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounded like a super fun show. It 123 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 3: sounded like a show that anybody'd want to do. I 124 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: really did want to do, and I was very excited 125 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: about potentially doing it. And then I guess my dates network, 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: but your dates, which were the same dates, did work, 127 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: and so I know you. 128 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: It was I got to start a week later because 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 2: I also wouldn't have been able to do three weeks 130 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: away from Dawson, Like I could not agree with that 131 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 2: for some reason. Two weeks we were like, Okay, we 132 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: can figure this out with childcare. And we had this 133 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 2: thought which really made the difference for us. It was like, 134 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: you know, how you'll look back on two weeks ago 135 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: to the day, it'd be like, oh my god, that's 136 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 2: been two weeks already. We thought that'll happen when I'm there, sure, 137 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: you know, And it was it was silly thirteen days 138 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: and something about thirteen days also sounded better to me. 139 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: I was able to We were able to work it out. 140 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: And I will say that you would have been a 141 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: far better cosmonaut than I. Like just your athletic ability, 142 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 2: I just and and really your teamwork. We will never 143 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: need to be there. Maybe if there's a Secon season. 144 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, if there's a second season, please call me up. 145 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 3: But it is also why Ashley was away, and there 146 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 3: a speculation why she was away, but she was away 147 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: in beacka Koufer and filled in for a week. We 148 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: had a couple of guest co hosts. That was where 149 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 3: actually was that we just couldn't talk about it until now, 150 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: but we do want to watch and celebrate Ashley as 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: she tries to step out on Mars and prize probably 152 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: doing it. 153 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: I'm excited, Thank you. I was super sick, so don't 154 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 2: judge me if I'm not in peak Ashley. I reality 155 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: TV form. You guys will talk more detail about you know, 156 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: what's shown and stuff when it's shown. 157 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: Good. 158 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: All right, Well, shall we talk about the reality show 159 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: that we love and know the very most about. 160 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: Definitely? 161 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: Yes. 162 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: It's week three of Charity season of The Bachelorette. We 163 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: are getting good storylines. We have mentioned in the past 164 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: that we are feeling more engaged in this season than 165 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 3: past seasons. We are starting to understand who's who and 166 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: why they're there and what kind of trouble they're going 167 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: to cause or were kind of love story they're going 168 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 3: to create. This week is no different. Actually, summarize the 169 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: start of this episode. For this week, it feels like Braden, 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: and even after our interview with Charity, feels like Braiden 171 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: had started to rub people not just the wrong way, 172 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: but the majority of people the wrong way. During week two. 173 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 3: It felt like Week three really start out with people 174 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: being annoyed. 175 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. So Week three starts out with Braden getting the 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 2: getting the date, the one on one. Yeah, right off 177 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: the bat. I think we're all surprised by this, right 178 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: because he's had so much airtime, and I feel like 179 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: when you know someone so well at this point, it 180 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: takes a while for them to get one on one. 181 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: But here we go and we're gonna start traveling. They're 182 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: going to just outside San Diego, and this season I 183 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: believe doesn't leave the country until the very end, so maybe, like, actually, 184 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't mind an Americana season that was Chris Sols. 185 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: I know that the cast is like I thought I 186 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 2: was gonna get free trips to Europe and Asia, but 187 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, you don't want it. 188 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: Anyways. It's fun to do it, but you don't leave 189 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 3: your hotel exactly. 190 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: You don't leave the hotel and you have to take 191 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: the worst flight ever. Yeah, and you're all you know, 192 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: you're all in coach. You're not traveling in luxury when 193 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: you're part of the cast, so you're better off doing 194 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 2: your short little flights around America anyway. Okay, so the 195 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: guys are traveling in a bus and then Brayden and 196 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,359 Speaker 2: her are going to take a helicopter down there. Everything 197 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: is pretty classic, you know, Oh look at that all 198 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: I love being with you. This car ride and the 199 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 2: cool you know, like her red convertible. Cool. You can't 200 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: talk in a convertible. Everything's fine until they show up 201 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: to Padres, the Padres Stadium, and it's cool for him 202 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: because he grew up in the area, so that's like 203 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: his stadium where he has a whole ton of memories. 204 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 2: They're having a blast, like throwing the ball. I was 205 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 2: a little worried when she got hit in the face 206 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 2: with the ball. She seems fine. I actually thought, I 207 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: think that I know this sounds annoying, and I'm going 208 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: to play Devil's advocate a ton here because I know 209 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: that Braden is not who I've said this all three 210 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: weeks now. Not who should you end up with? Is 211 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: obviously the quote quote villain of the season. Yeah, but 212 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: I do find him. I know that sounds crazy to 213 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 2: be maybe genuine, all right, I know it sounds weird. 214 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: It's because I've known somebody like Brandon very similar personality types, 215 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: and it takes a while to warm up and see that, like, 216 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: they are quite genuine and they have a good heart, 217 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 2: they're just probably not ready for well a serious relationship. 218 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 3: Elaborate on this a little bit. So he's genuine. So 219 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: maybe he's when you say genuine, he's honest because he's 220 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: going to communicate what he's feeling, what he's thinking, why 221 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: he's feeling it, and why he's thinking it, even if. 222 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: Doesn't look good on the show's formula or just. 223 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: In general, as we talked about last year. Yeah, yes, yeah, 224 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: like that just the show, but in general, like it 225 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: comes off a little selfish, it comes off little naive, 226 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: comes off he really isn't thinking about anybody else but himself. 227 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yes, but I'm saying genuine slash honest. 228 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 229 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: So when she gets hitting the ball face with the ball, 230 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: I was thinking, he goes, oh my gosh, I was 231 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: worried about that happening. I don't know why that stood 232 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: out to me as like, oh, like it's just I 233 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 2: don't know, Chemo Gos was a genuine to be super weird. 234 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 2: I know that's like the smallest little thing. 235 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: Oh hey, I was worried about hitting you in the 236 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: face with the ball or getting a ball hit your face, 237 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: and I'm going to care about this like this is 238 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: something that I was worried. Yes, nobody needs to get 239 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 3: hit in the face of the ball, myself for nobody 240 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: else included. So of course he's going to react, and 241 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 3: hopefully he reacts with the way of I was worried 242 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 3: about this happening. I didn't want it to happen. 243 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well, of course I don't know. I don't know, right, 244 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: I just know that he's being sort of honest. But 245 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: believe me, all of the they're not beige flags, gen Z, 246 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: but straight up red flags come when they're sitting down 247 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 2: to dinner in the stadium and he says that he 248 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: says he doesn't think he's going to be able to 249 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: make it through this process. He's like, I really like you. 250 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: I want to get to know you more and like 251 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: have as much time as possible, but this process is 252 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: really not good for me. He goes because then, like 253 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: he says, when it's fresh, it's fresh in his mind 254 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: that he really likes her. But then after some look 255 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: at this point, like honestly, hours pass and then he's like, ah, 256 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: this is I don't like this. I don't like other 257 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: guys being here, I don't like not being just a 258 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: one on one experience, and it is alarming because he's 259 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 2: definitely in this case showing that he likes her, but 260 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 2: he doesn't like her enough. Because he doesn't like her 261 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: enough to be uncomfortable. 262 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: We go into a little bit of the psychology of 263 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: why people go on this show. 264 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: And then they decide that they can't get engaged or 265 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: they can't do it once they're there. 266 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: He's one of the most unique circumstances to me because 267 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: so early on, I mean so sometimes this happens in 268 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: like the Final four where you'll see the front runner 269 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: be like, this is getting harder and harder, and I 270 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: don't like. 271 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: Peter Krause is like the poster boys for us. Sean too, Sean, 272 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: I knew it was gonna stick through Peter. I was like, 273 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: this guy's not going to get engaged. He's putting his 274 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: foot down. 275 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so get later on we can make sense of that. 276 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: We can still you know, say, hey, you knew what 277 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: you're getting into, and if you cared about her enough, 278 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: you would just say, let's let's make this thing work. 279 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: Early on is very odd, Yeah, because he really hasn't 280 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 3: had to. 281 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 2: Suffer through much. 282 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he hasn't had itself through anything. Really, I mean, 283 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: he's here and he's also the guy. So okay, night 284 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: one he said I am the most like I'm overly considered. 285 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: Yes, that was good. 286 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: So on night one, he kisses Charity and he tells 287 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 3: everybody about it, everybody, even knowing that it could come 288 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: off wrong or that people would be down about it. 289 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: So if he was super considerate, he would have told 290 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: nobody because he would have said, hey, how would I 291 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: want to be treated? He right now is showing that 292 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: he wouldn't want to know about anybody else's relationship outside 293 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: of his own with Charity. He doesn't want to hear 294 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: about anything. He doesn't see anything, So he's not overly considered, 295 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: because if he was overly considerate, he wouldn't have said 296 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: anything after his kisses with her or his or her 297 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: he's the first. He loves talking. Mm hmmm. 298 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: Uh. Goes back with the Rose of course because she 299 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: and she responded just interesting to me because first she 300 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: was a little concerned, but then she was like, I 301 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: like that he's being honest, even though it's not exactly perfect. 302 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: That's what she said. She goes, what he's saying is honest, 303 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: but it's not perfect. But she appreciated that. So anyway, 304 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: that's kind of exactly what I'm saying, Like he's genuinely honest. 305 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: You can't get him on for that. And it comes 306 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: into play later on in the episode where there's definitely 307 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: uh more red flags. There's more red flags to come 308 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: for sure. Okay, So then we go over to the 309 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: Barbie date and the group date claps for the group date, 310 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 2: my favorite group date in quite some time, A group 311 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: date that I can look back on and say, I 312 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: remember what happened here. It wasn't all just a blur. 313 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: So what the guys do? They see Jojo and Jordan. 314 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: They have to dress up as different versions of Ken 315 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 2: than Sean. You know, doesn't have to do much because 316 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 2: Sean like actually looks like a Ken doll. It's like 317 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: kind of strange. And then they're gonna write a song, 318 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: and like we know, we've seen this scenario so many 319 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: times in the show. I actually never mind the writing 320 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: a song thing, because it's like one shows a lot 321 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: of personality. You're expressing your feelings for the lead, and 322 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: you're just like, I mean, like it's good for it's 323 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: good TV to see people just who can't sing sing. 324 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's why the auditions for American Idol were 325 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: so successful for so long. So the guys eventually get 326 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: on stage all dressed up and they all are such 327 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: good sports about it. Dutton goes first and he's like 328 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: sweet and we love him. And then the other standouts 329 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: are Wrestling Man. Do you remember wrestling band's name? 330 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 4: I believe it is John John Yeah, John B John 331 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 4: Bee because yes, so no, it's not John By Caleb B. 332 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: Caleb Oh yes, okay, so let's just say so. Other 333 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 2: standouts are definitely Caleb B. He's the wrestler and he's like, 334 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 2: I have a surprise up my sleeve, and the surprise 335 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: is that he can actually kind of carry a tune. 336 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 2: The crowd really loves it and the guys are super impressed. 337 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: That's another thing about this group date is like it's 338 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: definitely lighthearted and fun, and the guys are enjoying the 339 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: other performances. There's just no there's no hostility. And then 340 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: finally Ken Boy comes up Sean and he does a 341 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 2: great job being a Kendall, like he's definitely trying to 342 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: step into Ryan Gosling shoes. Yes, yeah, and he performs 343 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: to charity. It's all about her. It's less about like 344 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: you know, getting it over with and performing in front 345 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: of a huge audience, way bigger of an audience we 346 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 2: normally see, and it's actually about performing for charity. And 347 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: he ends up winning the one on one time and 348 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: during the one on one time, we don't really get 349 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: to see them speak at all. It's really just them 350 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 2: like kind of kissing on the boardwalk. 351 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: Which is frustrating, right because the one thing about Sean 352 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 3: that like, we. 353 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: Just seems like a character, Like he seems like a doll. 354 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: We don't know a lot about him. I mean, I 355 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: think he makes that statement during the episode where he says, like, 356 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 3: compared to everybody else, he doesn't have a lot of 357 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 3: time with her, and that's true. We don't know a 358 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: lot about him yet. We're seeing bits and pieces, but 359 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 3: he does. He feels like a character on the season 360 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 3: more than a player, And so we don't still get 361 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 3: to see them talk or we get to see their 362 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 3: connection at all. It's just more of a monologue of 363 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: them kissing, which is you know, I think it points 364 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 3: to me that he is not around very long, Like 365 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: I don't think he's there. 366 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I don't think so either okay. So then 367 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: at the group day, of course, he walks in super obnoxiously. 368 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, are you trying to be a villain? 369 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: And he says something like, hey, guys, how are you. 370 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: I had a great time blah blah, and they're like, 371 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: did you really have to walk in so cocky? It's 372 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: not a good look. And then Charity comes in and 373 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: he wisks her away. What did you think about that move? 374 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's I think it was a 375 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: good given the moment, I am upset because one of 376 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: the guys said something along the lines that it asked 377 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 3: if Sean was an only child. Yeah, I mean really 378 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: really made men I'm an only child a slice of 379 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 3: bumble pie. I said, you know what, back on, don't throw. 380 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 2: Nothing to do with it. 381 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you had nothing to do with it. That was 382 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: really what I was focused on at that point. I 383 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: was fuming. Guys. 384 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: I was thinking about the firefighter, who's like definitely like 385 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: a classic manly man, and he was like, I could 386 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: build a fire I can. I don't know what he 387 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: was like, He's like that guy could take you to 388 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: a country club. It's like, okay, no. 389 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: One thing that we need to point out through this 390 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: this scene, I guess is and I want to hear 391 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: your opinion, but it was something that I was feeling 392 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: like I was noticing at now really early on in 393 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 3: this season, is this group of guys, uh you know, 394 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: we saw man Niwan. We said, I think that it's 395 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: going to be characters. They're going to be really involved, 396 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: They're going to care a lot about the process. I 397 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: think that's all true. But they're all there's there's not all. 398 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: Many of them are showing a very protective and a 399 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: very kind of confrontational side. I feel like with each 400 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 3: other at this point, Like usually still in week three, 401 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: everybody is best friends. Everybody is you know, getting along, 402 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 3: everybody's by ay, and then it's week four and five 403 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 3: you get some like drama coming in a week three, 404 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 3: I feel like the drama maybe hasn't been as heightened 405 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: that as we watch the episode this point, the drama 406 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: is building. There's many moments that could have erupted, especially 407 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 3: kind of with the braids and the Shaans and even 408 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 3: Adrian kind of speaking on how I did. A lot 409 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 3: of people have been very oysterous on on their on 410 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: them being upset. 411 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 2: You're right, I also s vibe that like they're going 412 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: to clear it, like once the Braden's gone, of once 413 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 2: Sean's gone. It's just kind of kind of clear and 414 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: there's not going to be any drama, especially when you 415 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: see those scenes to the next episode and teaser, seems 416 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 2: like all the drama is going to be like turmoil 417 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: within herself. 418 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you think the drama this season is going 419 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 3: to be weeks through three and then four on is 420 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: more of the love story. I like that, I would hope. 421 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's what's going to happen. So the 422 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: rest of the group day is also enjoyed it. She 423 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: had cute moments with Tanner talking about, you know, being 424 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: a teacher. She talked to Michael about how she likes it. 425 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: She doesn't like they don't have to like put a 426 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: lot of pressure into their conversations. And then of course 427 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 2: there is like that beautiful moment with Dutton where I 428 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: just wanted to be like, guess what, guys, you should 429 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 2: all go home. Dutton is definitely going to be the 430 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 2: last guy here. They have like this really special connection 431 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: and he said that like in previous relationships, he's always 432 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: been like the one that is like more of like 433 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: the teacher role, and this is like the first relationship 434 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 2: where he feels like he has a lot to learn 435 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: from Charity. 436 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: Bill. Did you see this connection coming? Because I feel 437 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: like even when we talked to Charity last week, but 438 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 3: we still hadn't ben shown. 439 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: She didn't say him right. I was watching this saying, 440 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: did she name Dutton at the top as her four who? 441 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: I asked it like leaving week two? Who she was 442 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: thinking of? Now? Did she not mention him because it's 443 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: she doesn't want to give anything away? Possibly, yes, she 444 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: was thinking about him. 445 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I think they've had moments when maybe we 446 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: haven't seen where their connection has gotten stronger as weeks 447 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 3: have gone on. But this is kind of I mean, 448 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: this will be a pivotal point as we look back 449 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 3: on the season where we finally get to see Charity 450 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: in Dunton, and I think fans, viewers, all of us 451 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 3: will be watching them very closely every interaction from here 452 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: on out because we're like, this is good. 453 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: It was weird that he said something about competency and 454 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: like she's so competent, and it's just weird because yesterday 455 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: in the Q and A with Tom Cruise, he said 456 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 2: that when he's casting movies. He looks for, okay, the 457 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 2: actors to be competent, and he made a big deal 458 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: about like that word, and it really resonated with me 459 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: and Jared. All Right, so moving on, this is the 460 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: best TV. This is the stuff that we love to 461 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 2: see on The Bachelor when it's not the actual tense romance. 462 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: Warwick and Charity's one on one. We thought going into 463 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: this date, I think this is a collective wee because 464 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: Charity said that Warwick was with her Top four last 465 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 2: week with her interview with us, and so I'm like, oh, 466 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 2: this date's gonna go so well. He's very cute. They 467 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: go to a carnival and they have nothing to speak of. 468 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: The guy can't carry a conversation. I'm wondering how much 469 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: was editing because they're eating ice cream cones silently. He 470 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: can't come up with a word from what he brings 471 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: to a relationship. He can't discuss his pass relationships feel 472 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: so bad. And also he was exhausted. But that doesn't 473 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: excuse anything, but it gave us great entertainment. And Warwick, 474 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: I think that you're probably a really nice guy. Just 475 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: think that you don't have a lot of experience in data, 476 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: and you are very far away from being ready. Oh 477 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Ben, what about the part where he 478 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 2: says he says he's been in two relationships, But then 479 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 2: he goes, I guess I'm just kind of inexperienced in 480 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: all of this, and I don't know, like I don't 481 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: know like when i'd ever be ready to like be 482 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: in a series of jump into a relationship. He says, like, 483 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: I'm not one to jump into relationships. 484 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: It's like it's cringey cringing. Not because it's unfair. And again, 485 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 3: I don't blame the dude for saying that and feeling that, 486 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: but don't come on this show and then going on 487 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: one on one and possibly learn how to phrase that 488 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 3: a little differently. I just looked this up. I want 489 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: to I remember this. He describes himself his Bachelor biography 490 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: the adorably awkward. Oh wait, no, maybe the show. Actually 491 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: I think the show describes him as adorably awkward, so 492 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 3: he might have the show. Yeah, he is. He's very awkward. 493 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: He definitely comes off to me as a type of 494 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: guy who's good looking and people probably try to set 495 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 3: him up all the time and it's just never worked. 496 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: And they don't ever understand why, and then they're going 497 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: to watch this episode and be like, that is why 498 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 3: it never works, because he's not ready and he doesn't 499 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 3: have any game. He's just not a conversation. 500 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: How old is he? 501 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: Twenty seven? 502 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: Twenty seven? I was gonna say he was probably one 503 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: of the younger ones around twenty four, not that like 504 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 2: three years is huge, but those three years are kind 505 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 2: of big. Wow, Well, sweet guy, probably, I would love 506 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: to I think he was casted for a moment like this, 507 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: though they definitely knew they were going to get some 508 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: fantastically awkward one on one from him. 509 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also probably why he was I don't want 510 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: on one so early, I imagine. I remember that word 511 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 3: fall asleep during this date. 512 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 2: We fell asleep at the end during his exit interview. 513 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I found. 514 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he was yawning. I don't know, was that 515 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: for real? For real? I know that he said he 516 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 2: was tired and he was yawning during the interview, But 517 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: you're telling me you actually fell asleep in the car 518 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 2: that granted it could have been three am, very common, 519 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 2: and I. 520 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: Fell asleep during like ITMS when I was the. 521 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: Bachelor you fell asleep in the middle of the just 522 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: so tired and happen. 523 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: Now letting you out until you just stay secrewed. I'm 524 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 3: done and you just fall asleep. 525 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: You can fall asleep sitting up. 526 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 3: I cannot sleep there for the rest of the night. 527 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: That's so funny, all right. So the other big thing 528 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: that we have to discuss before getting into the cocktail 529 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: party is Brandon is sitting around the guy with the 530 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 2: guys at the hotel room and he says, I don't 531 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: know that I'm ready to get engaged after all this. 532 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: He says this to them, and then I thought that 533 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: it was clear that he didn't have doubts about charity, 534 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: but that he doubted being able to engage get engaged. 535 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: He's like, I don't understand how you guys are feeling 536 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: confident in being able to get down on one knee 537 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: at the end of this after we haven't dated at 538 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: all without anyone else involved. And yes, annoying because like you, 539 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: that's the show and you need to be comfortable with 540 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: the formula blah blah blah going into it. But at 541 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: the same time, it's not a crazy thing to say. 542 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: And I don't think that he's doubting charity at all. 543 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: I think he's doubting getting into. 544 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: Everything. 545 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, but this is so true. 546 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 2: And even the other guys were defending this because they 547 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: got annoyed when Aaron B at the cocktail party goes 548 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 2: up and says, he says, verbatim, he's not sure how 549 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: he feels about you. That's wasn't what the that's not 550 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: what he said. As far as what we heard, he said, 551 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about getting engaged to you. Now, I'm sorry. 552 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: I told you I was playing Devil's advocate a lot, 553 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: but I actually feel strongly about this one. He never 554 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: said he was doubting his feelings for charity. He was 555 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: just doubting an engagement. 556 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: But you have definitely taken Brad's side in most situations here, 557 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 3: which I think is adorable. Here's the part about this 558 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: that makes me the most frustrated. Actually, it has nothing 559 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: do with Braden and uh, it really has nothing to 560 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: do with what he said. It's that somebody who is 561 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: such a front runner, who should be a stable, consistent 562 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: force on this show for charity, Aaron B takes it 563 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: upon himself to say something. 564 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: For sure, Oh you like you don't like that. 565 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: I don't like it because I feel like he's stooping 566 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: down to a level that he doesn't need to say. 567 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 3: He doesn't need to be this guy this season. He 568 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: doesn't need to care what anybody else is saying, because 569 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: it's really his relationship Charity that's going to be strong. 570 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 3: Already is strong. That is that is going to be 571 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: a significant that's going to be significant, and the storylines 572 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: moving forward. Don't want Aaron b be doing this. This 573 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: would be similar in my mind to any lead that 574 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: we've seen in the past on The Bachelorette, this guy 575 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: being the you know reasons please. 576 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: Well, let's we bring it back to like kind of 577 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: a Nick versus John. 578 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 3: A little bit. It'd be similar. But this is still early. 579 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: Is this going to happen again? Is this the role 580 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: he's going to take on? Does he feel like he 581 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 3: needs to not only protect himself but also Charity and 582 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: so as a result he is the one tell saying things. 583 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 3: Now he's going to get that kind of be known 584 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: for that in the house, which it does happen, right, 585 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: people will hear him say this, and now they're going 586 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 3: to be more careful around him when he should just 587 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: be sitting back being like you guys, you do what 588 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: you gotta do, you wreck this whole thing. I'm just here. 589 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just want to also add that, like, I 590 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: really do think it's lame that Brayden is like I 591 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 2: don't know if I can get through this, because that's 592 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 2: also just like about him. It's just like I can't 593 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: get he obviously doesn't like her enough if he doesn't 594 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: think he can get through it. That's my thought. You'd 595 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: be able to get through anything for the person that 596 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: you think you're meant to be with. Yeah, OK, right, 597 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 2: So anything else you want to talk about as far 598 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: as the cocktail party, because it's mainly the guys being 599 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: more so annoyed at Aaron Bee for even. 600 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: Bringing a similar story that we see most seasons where 601 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: they're just set that somebody has to be the person 602 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 3: that brings up drama because it does distract from everybody 603 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 3: else's conversation. And I don't think Aaron b should be 604 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 3: that guy. I hope he doesn't continue to be this guy, 605 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: but we're upset with him. There isn't anything that really 606 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 3: stands out other than the fact that I would just 607 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 3: say Braiden needs. 608 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: To go yeah, well he doesn't got no, but he. 609 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: Needs to go because we're not going to move on 610 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 3: Braiden kind of being the thorn and everybody's side until 611 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: he's gone. Like people are still gonna it's gonna be 612 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 3: the week, but I'm saying, we're just going to continue 613 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: to have this. Is Braiden here for the reasons? Is 614 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: he committed to her? Does he like her? Does he 615 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: care about her? Why is it? Does he say the 616 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: things he says? At this point, he's so far done 617 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 3: and gone from this group. He'll never recover because they're 618 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: gonna be out to just get him gone quickly, like 619 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: he has stung himself into a hole. I hope the 620 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 3: other guys don't go down with them. That's that's the 621 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 3: point I would bring in. 622 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 2: I don't think they will. He probably will continue this 623 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: argument with Aaron b next week and then he'll be 624 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: the one to leave. Uh did you feel like she 625 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: was gonna take away his rose at the very end? 626 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: I don't think I did. I did just after talking 627 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: with Charity the interview, I thought she did. I just 628 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 3: thought I thought she had something where she was like, no, 629 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm over it. I'm gonna make these decisions. 630 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: I just I thought from the tone of how the 631 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: interview went when she talked about the rest of the season, 632 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: I thought she just did based on what she said. Yes, 633 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: but watching this I did not our interviewed. 634 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well we shall see next week. Sneak peek. 635 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 2: I feel like the big one, the biggest standout, is 636 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: probably done and saying that he's on top of the world. 637 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: Hopefully we see a one on one with them. I'd 638 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 2: really like to say that. 639 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 3: I agree, and we see more of Braiden fighting and arguing, 640 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 3: and Braiden is still doing what he does, which at 641 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: this point is simily entertained to me, honestly, kind of 642 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: like that he's around. It's kind of funny to me. 643 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 2: He's just a character. 644 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: At this point, and like it's kind of intriguing for 645 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 3: me to see what he's going to say. And really, 646 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 3: and I don't think he meant to if he tried 647 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 3: to do this. I mean, there's people in the past 648 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: that have tried to get under the other contestants skin 649 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 3: just to be under their skin and like to annoy him. 650 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 3: I don't think he's meaning too, but he is so 651 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 3: far in all of their heads at this point, and 652 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, I'd give him some credit if 653 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 3: I thought he this intentionally. It is kind of interesting 654 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 3: to see how much he can wrap there's just by 655 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 3: being like not even like mean just goofy mm. 656 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: And then worth mentioning that Adrian, who was the guy 657 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 2: against him last week, did leave, which wasn't surprising. When 658 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: we talked to Charity either, she seemed to not. 659 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: I it's gonna be another great episode of the best 660 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 3: of the week. Wow, we're really into this season. We're 661 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: a month in on episode after next week, we'll be 662 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 3: here talking about it, breaking it down with all of you. 663 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: We're going to see if bring goes home next week. 664 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: We expect them to. We think you will actually to 665 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 3: close this out now after week three? Who were your 666 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: top three? 667 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 2: Dutton probably still Aaron b. 668 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: H. 669 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: This is a great question. Oh Joey Dug. We didn't 670 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: even talk about Joey in this podcast, but Joey definitely 671 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: is just there and he's yeah, he's he's there, and 672 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: you're right, he was your top guy and I mean it'd. 673 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 3: Be my top three too, And Elie, I was gonna 674 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 3: hope you're got Joey in there. It's the top three 675 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 3: going into week four. Here at the Almost Famous podcast 676 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 3: till next week. 677 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: I've Been Ben, I've Been Ashley by guys. 678 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 679 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.