1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Gooner 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: notorial candidate Mark Robin trend. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: That one courtesy of New Chris on the Discord, who said, 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: been listening to Jord Center. So I don't know if 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: that's a direct quote from Jeord Center. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: Are you talking a lot about goon caves and stuff? Yeah? 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Probably probably some gooning going if I know those fellas. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out. 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: To Christy Yamagucci Man and the rest. Uh, they're talking 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: about some gooning. Yeah, my name's Jack fat Over there 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: is Miles Hip and hey, speak of the devil Miles. 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the fallout from that CNN investigation continues. If 14 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: you recall, his initial response to these allegations was like 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: on some Marion Barry, like they sent me up right shit, 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: like you know, like Shaggy, it wasn't me. This is nonsense, 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: this is spurious, it's mendacious, when he would not use 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: those words naturally though. In response to this, his own 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: supporters had offered to put him in contact with IT specialists, 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: like forensic IT specialists that could help him uncover the 21 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: truth about who the real Mark Robinson is and get 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: to the bottom that it couldn't. If you're denying it, 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: then we'll find out who it is. Mark Robinson has 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: rejected those offers. So so it's a set up. But also, 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 2: please don't get to the bottom of this, please, which 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: is a very interesting space to exist in. 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: So much of what is going on with the Republicans 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: is like guy makes up lie on the spot because 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: he's caught doing some shit or just can't accept that 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: he lost an election, and then everyone reacts like, oh 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: my god, really. 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: Whoa that? Like if that's true, we better fucking kill 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 2: someone that's. 34 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: Fucking crazy man, Like she needs to Holy shit, we 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: the whole democratic foundation of this country is messed up. 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a setup. This is truly a is 37 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: it UCI Wally or is it one Mike situation? Ye? 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: I want justice, but please don't seek that justice and 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 2: get to the bottom of the truth, because it's a 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 2: boomerang right back to me allegedly. So it's also funny 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 2: too because meanwhile Newsmax, dude, they're, oh my god, this 42 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: is some fantastic shit on Newsmax. This they're begging Mark 43 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: Robinson to like not drop out of the race because 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: and I think they're maybe I guess trying to condition 45 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: their viewers to be like, to look past the fact 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: that he was supremely unqualified for this job and be like, dude, 47 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: it's actually not that bad. Listen to this fucking defense 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: on Newsmax of like why Mark Robinson, Hey, hang in there, 49 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: you're a good sport hell address and. 50 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: They think they tracked it to a porn site where 51 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: he may or may. 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: Not have been acting. 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: Greg Kelly, Greg Kelly when he was a private citizen 54 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: forklift operation. 55 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, no, bigel, You're allowed. 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 3: You're allowed to do that when you come home from work, 57 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 3: all right. You're allowed to do whatever you want in America. 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: Including scream about being a Nazi and saying that slavery 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: was good and denying the Holocaust. 60 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: Wait, so if you can do whatever you want in America, 61 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: can you seek an abortion in a red state? Okay? Sorry, 62 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: I took what you said literally? So sure is it? Are? 63 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: Are you free from persecution if you're not a cis 64 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: head person? Mind? What are you? Are you being like 65 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: funny right now? Do you think this is funny? No? No, no, 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: I meant for a fork for a gubernatorial candidate. You 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: can fucking talk about keeping like spying on women in 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: the changing rooms. Because let's be real, it's not just 69 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: the comments on the porn stuff. It was there was 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: a ton of other stuff that they're ignoring anyway, talking 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: about go on, go on, I get it. This is America, 72 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: and if you're a forklift operator you can do whatever 73 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: you want. You have carte blanche. 74 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: And this whole thing, I'm not buying that he is 75 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: a Nazi sympathizer. 76 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: That stuff Nazi the hall. It's awful. It's awful. It's awful. 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: It's awful. That's the sound of a Republican trying to 78 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: pretend they don't like Nazi. 79 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: He has like a smile on his face while saying this. 80 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: He's like, don't get a nazis like so bad? I 81 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: get it so bad. Nobody like a one It wasn't 82 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: a one sentence thing where he said, oh, black Nazi 83 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: and moved on. Like he's talked about not believing the 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: holocaus is real, like how Hitler had good idea like 85 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: this is a He is on record multiple times that 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: being like. 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: I'm down to enslaved black people again, even though this 88 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: isn't my internalized white supremacy is so intense that you 89 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: think it's a bit or not real. No, it might 90 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: be anyway. So he goes on to be like, no, 91 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: what does naz even mean anymore? 92 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: Yes, but the Nazi word has kind of entered are lexicon. 93 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: Right, you look it up onary dot com. German party. 94 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: But you also have this a person who is fanatically 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: dedicated or seeks to regulate a specified activity or practice. 96 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: Okay, So in this instance, if he's a black Nazi, 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: the example from this dictionary dot com definition is a 98 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: jazz Nazi who's disdaining like you know whatever, who just 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: stay all form whatever. It's like contact, like people being 100 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: like that person's black, that person's not black, And he's like, 101 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 2: oh man, I'm very specific about this sort of thing, 102 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: like black Nazi. I'm the arbiter of all black culture, 103 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: and like I have very rigid definitions of what I 104 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: think is or is not part of black culture. Like 105 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: if that's maybe that would work there. But this guy 106 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: is saying that basic talking about the. 107 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: Context racism and anti semitism, and Hitler the first definition. 108 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, obviously like the very bad German thing, 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: but he could also mean this, okay, Greg Kelly. But 110 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: gone because he jack you're ready for a knockout punch 111 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: here it is. Anybody remembers Seinfell for the Soup Nazi. 112 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: The whole country thought this was funny. 113 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: And then he plays a clip from fucking Seinfeld of 114 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: the Soup Nazi and Elaine and like explaining the Soup 115 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: Nazi thing. And then he comes back to it and 116 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: he's like, well, at least he doesn't say anything like 117 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: about kids. And that's the important part, don't you That 118 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: is what he says. 119 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So he's turned the whole story into people 120 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: shaming him for watching porn, which that's just where we 121 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: found him talking about how Hitler is great. 122 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's happened to be on this porn site or that. 123 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, D's done that story last week when he was 124 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: like a regular at a place where he jacked off 125 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: next to other people and would. 126 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: Graciously bring pizzas when you got off work. 127 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Like that story, I was like, wait a second, is 128 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: this guy cool? But now we have some stuff that 129 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: would suggest maybe not maybe. 130 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, by the way, Greg. 131 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Kelly in that story is kind of giving me at 132 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: a party. Anyone remember sign. 133 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Just a just a hard right turn when there's an 134 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: awkward silence. It's like a birthday party, half day two. 135 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Does anybody remember anyone? Remember Jack? This is my three 136 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: year old birthday party. 137 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: Okay to you, Okay, anyways, but they have to encourage 138 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: him to stick around, pretend it's no big deal because 139 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: he is on the ballots. The ballots have shipped with 140 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: his name on it. He could still drop out and 141 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: then his votes would go to a chosen successor. 142 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. The Democratic Party of North Carolina could choose 143 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: basically be like, all right, look, guys, it's gonna say 144 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: that you're voting for the creepy sex pest guy, but 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: it actually goes to a Republican that will pick. I 146 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 2: don't know if we can get that information on time, 147 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: but anyway. 148 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm surprised they're not just doing that, but I guess 149 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: the probably. 150 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like everyone is trying to distance themselves from him, 151 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: and like Trump had to pull his endorsement, like you know, 152 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: the other except Greg Kelly, Baby, Greg Kelly, Hang in there, man, 153 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: hang in there, man, We've all been there. Hey man, 154 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: no porn for you okay, remember yeah, hey, no freedom 155 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: for you? That's where is this there? 156 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: I do just want to shout out John Mulaney who 157 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: was hired to go do entertainment at a Sales Force 158 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: event in I guess San Francisco and the Bay Area, 159 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 1: and it went viral because so this is the thing 160 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: that happens. By the way, like software sales is an 161 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: industry with lots of money that is made by salespeople 162 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: who have to do a lot of hard, unpleasant work. 163 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: So to keep them motivated, Uh, they got little perks 164 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: here and there. Baby, I know somebody who works in 165 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: software sales. They were telling me about a like thing 166 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: that they had recently where they were like, yeah, I 167 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: it was cool. Ryan Reynolds came out and spoke to us. 168 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: That's cool. Why helped me work eighty five hour weeks 169 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: and no problem because I got to touch Ryan reynolds back. No, 170 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: are you kidding me? You would have been fucking tasted. No, 171 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: you got with me. They taste me, but I couldn't resist. 172 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 2: And that's how I make it work for me. Man, 173 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: I gotta get back to work. I get back. 174 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: But anyways, the thing about the Milanny thing is like 175 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: it's not funny, which like if he was being funny 176 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: while he was doing it, it would like they just 177 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: would have laughed and been like. 178 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: Ah, he's being funny. 179 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: But he was just like mean to the cook at them, 180 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: which I just absolutely cooking them. 181 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: Uh. 182 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: He said, you look like a group who looked at 183 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: the self checkout counters at CBS and thought this is 184 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: the future. So many of you feel imminently replaceable. What's 185 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,479 Speaker 1: important here is that we're looking for solutions, he said sarcastically, 186 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: And in looking for solutions, what we're really after is insights, 187 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: which then lead to success. Now start prepping the humans 188 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: for robots. Some of the veguest language ever devised has 189 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: been used here in the last three days. The fact 190 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: that there are forty five thousand Trailblazers here couldn't devalue 191 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: the title anymore. Like it's just right on, like it's 192 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: funny to me, but I can't. 193 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: Like. 194 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I doubt there was a single person smiling in that theater. 195 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: They probably because like there, it's probably on some level. 196 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: I bet some people don't like their job and like yeah, yeah, man, 197 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: kill us, dude, took us John, I don't think take themselves. 198 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: That's just about I don't know. If you were at 199 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: the event and it was crickets, let us know, but 200 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 2: I feel like I am curious. 201 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: He rounded out things by thanking attendees for the world 202 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: you're creating for my son, where he will never talk 203 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: to an actual human again. Instead, a little cartoon Einstein 204 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: will pop up and give him a sort of good 205 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: answer and probably refer him to another chatbot before describing 206 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: he and his son playing baseball in the front yard, 207 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: and he said, we're just two guys hitting whiffleballs badly 208 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: and yelling good job at each other. It's sort of 209 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: the same energy here at dream Force. 210 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 2: Shit dude, which people are saying. I don't know how 211 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: much he got paid. There are rumors that it was 212 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: in the millions of dollars. Wow, to do. 213 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: That, get the bag and tell them to go fuck 214 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: themselves refect. 215 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh man, that's the best move too. Yeah, I give 216 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: me your money. Fuck you a but we gave you 217 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: the money. I don't give a fuck. You knew it 218 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 2: it was And this is what you gave me money 219 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: for to do comedy. I'm sorry, what did you know 220 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: what to do make y'all feel good about your fucking lives? 221 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: Hell, no, man, mullaneous hilarious, guys, you're gonna have to 222 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: check this out. It's gonna be so hilarious and then 223 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: not so funny, is it? 224 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: Is it dream Force? Is that okay? 225 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: So that Salesforce is like, uh, event, it's like their 226 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: coach Ella for software sales Salesforce. 227 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 2: Dream Force for dream Force. Let's take a quick break. 228 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: We'll be right back and we're back. And a lot 229 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 2: going on with Israel of late. 230 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 1: So, immediately after last week's pager attacks, which have been 231 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: described by a former let me get this right, CIA 232 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: director as obviously terrorism, Leon Panetta said, I don't think 233 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: there's any question that it's a form of terrorism. 234 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't know, if you want to be euphemistic. 235 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: A mass maming, right, mass maming that is implicit that 236 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: it can get anyone anywhere at any time. 237 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: Including non combatants or people that actually had anything to 238 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: do with it. Yeah, cool, cool, cool. 239 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: But they're now trying to remove the people who are 240 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: reporting on what is actually happening in one of the 241 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: fronts of their now many front war. They specifically used 242 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: a court ruling to raid Al Jazeera and Ramallah and 243 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: ordering staff to evacuate, seizing equipment, and yeah, they're basically 244 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: closing the West Bank offices of Al Jazeera. 245 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, which we're using like yeah, using like a loophole 246 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: too to be like, well, it's a temporary shutdown. It's 247 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: forty five days, yes, just what the thing is. But 248 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: on the forty fifth day we can just fire it 249 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 2: back up. So this forty five day shutdown is the 250 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: fourth time now that the network has been hit with 251 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 2: this up this shutdown. And again Israel was treated similarly 252 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: and yeah, because they're like, why are you like saying 253 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: stuff that isn't what nen Yahoo is saying, and like 254 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: this what's happening in Lebanon. It's echoing Gaza like in 255 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: the most fucked up freakish way, where you have Net 256 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: and Yahoo and the idef like sending text messages addressing 257 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: the people of Lebanon being like Hesbola has been using 258 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: you as human shields and they've been hiding weapons in 259 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: your homes, so you might need to leave because we 260 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: need to get those weapons. And if something happens, you know, 261 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: we're warning you, God forbid anything happens, and then you 262 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:55,359 Speaker 2: have fucking you know, direct strikes in popul densely populated 263 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: areas to get like a Hezbolla leader that killed a 264 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: ton of people. Uh and now just airstrike like across 265 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: the country and so yeah, shit is getting fucking way, 266 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: way way out of control. And then like the most 267 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: Estate Department, when they're asked directly, it's like, do you 268 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 2: think this is a good plan for Israel safety to 269 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: go about it in this way? And then you get 270 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: this spin it's like, well, obviously, like if any country 271 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: is attacked, like you gotta acknowledge that there is there's 272 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: gonna be some kind of response. And you know, like 273 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: we're not like just all this like very mealy mouthed 274 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: nonsense when you're talking about this. These are really huge 275 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: escalations and uh yeah, Like for all the talk of 276 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: like them saying like yeah and we're using diplomatic channels, 277 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: it's like, just just cut the shit, man, Like I 278 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: don't know what transgression would ultimately cause the United States 279 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: to like be like all right, we're pulling the plug 280 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: on all these bang bangs for you and like we're 281 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: not going to have your back for any of this 282 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: nonsense as you throw the whole region into further you know, chaos. 283 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, speaking of pro Public has discovered that 284 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: the US government's two foremost authorities on humanitarian assistance concluded 285 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: in the spring that Israel deliberately blocked humanitarian aid to Gaza, 286 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: which I think we had kind of assumed, but Anthony 287 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: Blincoln had to basically take the conclusions of the two 288 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: foremost experts on like what is happening over there, ignore them, 289 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: and then say the exact opposite to Congress in order 290 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: that weapons continue to flow unimpeded to Israel to continue 291 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: the attack on Gaza. 292 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: So it's just Biden is not the norm on Israel. 293 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people, a lot of 294 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: like that that assumption is built in that like the 295 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: US is just always going to be an ally to Israel. 296 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: But he is, like from the beginning of his career 297 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: has just been pathologically willing to put up with their bullshit, 298 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: and uh. 299 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: You know, I mean to be really, you're not going 300 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: to be a president and have a stance that isn't 301 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: just kind of like yeah, man, like do your thing. 302 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: I mean there might be like levels like a little 303 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: more nuanced maybe and how things are communicated, but yeah, 304 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: it's been It's like I'm trying to think of like 305 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 2: a president who's been yeah, actually in a way trying 306 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: to reel in the just ridiculous behavior of the Israeli government. 307 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: We've never had a president who was overseeing that relationship 308 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: when something this horrifying was happening. 309 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. Yeah, it's just it's 310 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 2: it's really disheartening to also then see like, you know, 311 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 2: this is where Kamala has a chance to differentiate a bit, Yes, 312 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: from like, it can't be worse than what the Biden 313 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: administration is doing right now. I mean maybe, I mean yeah, 314 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: like a really fucked up way could be worse, but 315 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: like it feels like really low hanging fruit to begin 316 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: to differentiate yourself here. But again, they fear the lobbying 317 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 2: power of the Israeli government, so it's become like this 318 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: really yeah, just like to become inert and it's just 319 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: a lot of talk of like well, using diplomatic channels. 320 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: Meanwhile that you know, the carnage continues. 321 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: And it's not a false equivalency. We're not saying vote 322 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: for Donald Trump because we're criticizing Kamala Harris's stance on 323 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: Israel or other progressive policies. 324 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, the criticism comes from a place that I just 325 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 2: think American people deserve better overall, that's what it is. 326 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: And again it's because it's if you're tapped in enough 327 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: to look at the status quo of it all, you realize, like, 328 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: we have a serious problem that has to be addressed, 329 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 2: and anything that isn't taking taking that seriously and understanding 330 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: the stress and the the instability it creates for American people, 331 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: Like that's that's just a misstep. Yeah, And that's again 332 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: and I'm not trying to be like idealistic, like this 333 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: is a utopian, but at the very least, like, can 334 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: you can you identify what is happening to the people 335 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 2: in the United States and offer something that's a little 336 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 2: bit more you know, that feels a little more tangible, 337 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: rather than just kind of doing the thing where it 338 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: could be worse. And I get it, Yeah, it would 339 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: be worse under Donald Trump one hundred percent. That's not 340 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: going to stop me from saying, I demand better from 341 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: someone who is courting my vote. And that's what I 342 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: want to see a candidate again, because the status quo 343 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: is so fucked up and violent for people that I 344 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: would love to see something rhetorically that acknowledges that. And 345 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 2: you know, maybe that's a far stretch with this current 346 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: current setup. But that's that's that's my hope is that 347 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: we can at least objectively begin to look at what 348 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 2: ails us and try and solve those problems. 349 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well, those are some of the things 350 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: that are trending on this Tuesday, September twenty fourth. We 351 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of a 352 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: show to tell you some fun things about the architect 353 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: of Project twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five, what is 354 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: it Project twenty twenty five. Yeah, yeah, he's an interesting guy. 355 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: But until then, be kind to each other, be kind 356 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,479 Speaker 1: to yourselves, get the vaccine, get your flu shot, and 357 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: don't do nothing about white supremacy. 358 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 2: And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bite bite,