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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros MLB. This is the

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It is me Joey p Joep Zapia

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Speaker 1: with me, Joe Alrico and from CBS Fantasy Baseball Today. Baby,

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Speaker 1: my good pal Frank Stample is here. Frankie Angel. It

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Speaker 1: has been a while since you and I got to

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Speaker 1: hang out and talk. But we've made plans already to

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Speaker 1: go catch a game now that you're out in Jersey.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go watch Double A Yankees together and I

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Speaker 1: can complain about how overrated George Lombard is. So I

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Speaker 1: can't wait for that. That's going on my calendar. What

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Speaker 1: like June? Is that a good time for you?

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, man. I got out to a game

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Speaker 2: last year. I got to see Lombard play. Yeah, there

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Speaker 2: are some questions there, but pretty interesting minor league team.

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Speaker 2: Happy to catch a game with you guys, Happy to

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Speaker 2: talk to you guys. Two my favorites in the industry.

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Speaker 3: Joey Pete's Phi Joe Rico had fun.

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Speaker 2: Out in First Pitch Arizona. So happy to be here,

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Speaker 2: Happy to talk to you guys.

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Speaker 1: Now today we're doing our Shortstop Guide. We've been doing

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Speaker 1: all the guide here, right, So if you're trying to

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Speaker 1: bad boy. So Frank, well, we're talking about short stops, obviously.

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Speaker 1: You know these are some premium players, big time talents.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about. For you, who's your favorite shortstop growing

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Speaker 1: up in your youth? And you can't say, Yankee, that's

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Speaker 1: the one caveat I'm gonna give you. I want you

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Speaker 1: to go outside the box for me, putting you out

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Speaker 1: of your comfort zone.

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Speaker 2: Ooh man, I mean obviously, like my my first answer.

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Speaker 1: Notes and I don't want you to say that because

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Speaker 1: it's boring. And I know you're gonna say Derek Jeter.

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Speaker 1: Who was the other shortstop that excited you that you

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Speaker 1: love to watch play? Could be defensive, could be offense,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter to me. This is all about just favorite preferences.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, there's no one really like dumping off

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Speaker 2: the page. Right now, Like Edgar rent Torio is one

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Speaker 2: that I really liked growing up, and.

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Speaker 3: That's good one.

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Speaker 2: There is lots of great talents. But yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: it's it's cheter Man. I'm sorry, I gotta go with Jeter.

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Speaker 3: It's it's gotta be ger Caty clutch Man, I gotta

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Speaker 3: go them. I'm sorry, all right.

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Speaker 1: Our captain clutch around here, Joe Alrico, Joe, we had

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Speaker 1: some news. It's handmake bone season apparently, and you're only

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Speaker 1: the cool kids are breaking their handmade bones. And looks

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Speaker 1: like Lindor is the next guy here, so we got

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Speaker 1: to talk about him. I know you and I had

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Speaker 1: a difference of opinion. How much you want to drop

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Speaker 1: him in your rankings? There's concerns always there's certain guys

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Speaker 1: depending on the recovery time as it's happened with the

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Speaker 1: power for a little bit when they come back. So

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Speaker 1: how far did you drop Lindor and your rankings? This

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Speaker 1: is perfect time to come into this show today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really The other day was a massacre, Like

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Speaker 4: I think we had like seven or eight brutal injuries Lindor, Carol,

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Speaker 4: those are probably the worst of them, and I.

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Speaker 1: Know we for them drafted by Scott Bogman in our draft.

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Speaker 4: If you guys missed that mock draft show, that was

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Speaker 4: a great podcast, go back and check that one out.

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Speaker 4: We are giving Bogman the gears for most of the

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Speaker 4: time after that pick. But Lindor, you know, he's not

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Speaker 4: a guy who has a lot of excess power. And

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Speaker 4: I mean that to say, he's not a forty plus

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Speaker 4: You've been getting about thirty out of him the last

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Speaker 4: couple of seasons. But if he has a hand injury

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Speaker 3: It feels like maybe the.

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Speaker 4: Orioles are being a little more realistic about the timeline.

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Speaker 4: I'm a bit more of a pessimist with injuries, so

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Speaker 4: I'm going to expect the longer range and that guys

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Speaker 4: they return. So long story short, I think Lindor is

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Speaker 4: still somebody you can draft, but I'm moving him personally

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Speaker 4: and there is a bit of a gap between them.

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Speaker 4: But I think, you know, Lindor's ADP over the last

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Speaker 4: pick forty overall, that's probably where I'd be comfortable taking

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Speaker 1: My guess is he's back in April and he's effective

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Speaker 1: in May. That's why I would put it, And baseball

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Speaker 1: is a long season, so I don't want to overreact

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Speaker 1: too much because Lindor gives you, you know, five categories

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Speaker 1: when he's right, when he's all set and ready to go. Frank,

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Speaker 1: how much of as the hand a bone issue specifically

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Speaker 1: for Lindor affected you since this is a short snop

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I moved him down to the early third round.

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Speaker 2: I have him just behind zach Netto as well, so

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Speaker 2: pretty much in agreement there with Joe should I say, Rico,

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Speaker 2: because you're bulk Shoe.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: I think that will be a best practice for today.

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Speaker 4: I think that we always struggle with this.

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Speaker 2: To agree with Arica, Yes, did move Lindor into the

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Speaker 2: third round of a twelve team league. And it's tough

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Speaker 2: because he's one of the most consistent players in Fantasy.

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Speaker 2: You look at his last like three years, he's just

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Speaker 2: right there, thirty thirty, solid batting average, great counting stats.

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Speaker 2: You know Wan Soto now Bobaschette hitting right behind him

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Speaker 2: as well, so the counting stats should be awesome. The

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Speaker 2: problem with him is that he does typically get off

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Speaker 2: of that, so I agree, like, if he's back in

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Speaker 2: star like he normally does, Like maybe we don't see

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Speaker 2: actual Lindoor until like June, right like him hitting his

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Speaker 2: do worry about it a little bit, But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: would probably take the plunge there in the third round.

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Speaker 1: Some mixed results too, some guys that have come back

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Speaker 1: fine from it. Some guys that have come back and

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Speaker 1: struggled with it. So it's very tough to kind of

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Speaker 1: that the guys are putting out certainly not a bad path.

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Speaker 1: I might be slightly more aggressive. I'd probably right around

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Speaker 1: Netto is where I would take Lindor as well. But again,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a look at the top twelve here,

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Speaker 1: four shortstops. Obviously, Bobby Witt at the top. Elli de

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Speaker 1: You check out the rankings there for all of the

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Speaker 1: positions and all the ADPs as well. The composite ADP

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Speaker 1: is there. So with Cruise, Gunner Henderson at three, Lindor

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Speaker 1: drops at the four spot. Will monitor that too in

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Speaker 1: the days ahead, in the news ahead. If he starts

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Speaker 1: to sink a little bit more, it's gonna be interesting

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Speaker 1: to watch that consensus ADP fall for Lindor and where

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Speaker 1: it lands ultimately. Trey Turner at five, Zach Netto at six,

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Speaker 1: Mookie Bets at seven, c J Abrams at eight, Heraldo

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Speaker 1: Perdomo at nine, Corey Seeger at ten, Boba Schett at eleven,

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Speaker 1: and then Jeremy Pania at well. So that is the

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Speaker 1: top tier right now for shortstops. Frank, Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: Perdomo because you had some questions and concerns about him

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Speaker 1: potentially coming off a pretty good year for the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 1: What do you look for him twenty twenty six and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, just typically I don't like to buy the

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Speaker 2: player coming off the huge career year, especially out of nowhere,

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Speaker 2: like Perdomo was the biggest breakout in fantasy last season.

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Speaker 2: He was undrafted in most leagues and he winds up

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Speaker 2: finishing as like a top twenty five player overall. He

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Speaker 2: he barrels it up. His plate discipline is fantastic. So

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Speaker 2: if you play in a points league anywhere where you

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Speaker 2: lose points for strikeouts, I totally get still being in

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Speaker 2: on Perdomo, but I just see what he did last

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Speaker 2: think he could still be a serviceable player, but I

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Speaker 2: see more like a you know, two sixty two to

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Speaker 3: I don't see enough to support the power.

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Speaker 2: There twelve to fifteen home runs, chips in some steals,

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Speaker 3: It's still a good lineup.

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Speaker 2: I just don't like buying off of the career year

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Speaker 2: and I don't see enough any underlying numbers to support

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Speaker 2: the power breakout and the plate appearances. He was like

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Speaker 2: over seven hundred play appearances. He needed all that to

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Speaker 2: get to his finish last season. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: we'll get you know, that huge total of plate appearances

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Speaker 2: like we saw last season. So for all those reasons,

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Speaker 2: I'm just Perdomo feels like a really polarizing player, and

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Speaker 2: I'm just not going to use a six round pick

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Speaker 1: That's fair. I think that's very fair. Look, the career

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Speaker 1: slugging percentage of the minor leagues was three sixty one.

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Speaker 1: This was kind of my big knock on Bryce Terrang

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Speaker 1: in the last show we did. In the short video too,

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Speaker 1: It's like, look, there's nothing really that suggests like a

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Speaker 1: big power ceiling for this guy, so when they have

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Speaker 1: a breakout power year, it's fun, but repeatable I think

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Speaker 1: is more important. So when you get to this range

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Speaker 1: for Perdomo, if you end up landing in this, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten to eleven, twelve spot, you would rather be going

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Speaker 1: for Corey Seeger or Boba Schett, like you think those

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Speaker 1: are the better selections rather than Perdomo. It and actually

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Speaker 1: nine overall right.

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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, so it's obviously we're always playing a value game,

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Speaker 1: It's funny, Joe, because I feel like the Angels are

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Speaker 1: kind of, you know, persona non garana for a lot

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Speaker 1: I think based on expectations, Gunner Henderson, I think we

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Speaker 1: those guys at the top, Arico, who would it be.

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Speaker 1: Would it be Elie de la Cruz or Gunner Henderson.

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Speaker 1: Where you're talking about team building, obviously Bobby wits number one.

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Speaker 4: I would take Gunner Henderson there. I still really believe

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Speaker 4: later on about some of my concerns, But with Gunner,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a thirty thirty upside here for him

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Speaker 4: He plays every single day pretty much, at least one

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Speaker 4: And even though he came into last year hampered with

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Speaker 4: Hurt the power a little bit, but you figure he's

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Speaker 4: healed now. It doesn't always work that way over the

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Speaker 4: you figure the off season he's also been healing up,

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Speaker 4: I would imagine. I think we're looking at at least

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm bringing in Alonzo to more lineup protection certainly

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Speaker 1: You're one I know sometimes likes to roll the dice

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Speaker 1: with the sexy player. Ellie's definitely that sexy guy. If

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's where he's gonna be, but

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Speaker 1: superstar potential. Not that Gunner doesn't. We've seen some massive

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Speaker 2: So I'll give you the cop out answer is that

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Speaker 2: I do like both of these got.

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Speaker 1: Derek Jeter, Thanks Frank, well done. Again, it's always Derek Jeter.

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Speaker 2: That's the derekar I like both of these guys, and

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Speaker 2: I would still lean with Ellie de la Cruz, and

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Speaker 2: it was a tale of two seas for Ellie last year.

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Speaker 2: You look at what he did in the first half,

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Speaker 3: And I think that there are reasons.

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Speaker 2: I totally get that, but I think we were on

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Speaker 2: and I think we get closer to that player. I

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Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty home runs. I don't think we're

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Speaker 2: pretty good South Stewart. It's absolutely one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Ellie has to get back up to

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Speaker 1: Bets frank beginning of decline or bounce back here, I see.

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Speaker 2: More of a bounce back season four Mookie Bets. And

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Speaker 3: He couldn't keep any food down. I think that really

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Speaker 2: And he's not someone that has incredible raw power anyway.

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Speaker 2: he looked a lot like Mookie Bets. He hit two

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 2: He's thirty three years old. He's getting up there in age.

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers lineup, I mean, it's just yeah, it's absolutely stacked.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is an all star team. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: You've got Kyle Tucker and Otani and Freddie Freeman. So

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Speaker 2: I think the counting stats will be there. I don't

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Speaker 3: But I see it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's where I drafted him yesterday in that draft

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Speaker 4: Yeah, at cost. I'm not a crazy big fan. There

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Speaker 4: I took him at pick eighty overall, and at that

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Speaker 4: But if he's given me mid twenties homers with the

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Speaker 4: still eight or nine stolen bases. Again, I think he

431
00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,040
Speaker 4: more than pays off if you're getting him past ADP,

432
00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,439
Speaker 4: and even at ADP, like if Mooie Bets finished with

433
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,239
Speaker 4: a second third round valuation this year, I don't think

434
00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,479
Speaker 4: anybody is gonna be surprised by it.

435
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,760
Speaker 1: No, I think it's very simple. You're you just about

436
00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,679
Speaker 1: nailed there. I think he lands his ADP next year

437
00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,560
Speaker 1: will be higher than it is this year, So buy

438
00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,320
Speaker 1: in because I would think that's more likely of the outcomes.

439
00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,200
Speaker 1: And I was somebody who was very much fading him

440
00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:03,760
Speaker 1: when that illness happened last year. I did not like

441
00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,840
Speaker 1: the way he looked. I did not like the lack

442
00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,720
Speaker 1: of communication we were getting about. It was very suspect too.

443
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,760
Speaker 1: You gotta read between the lines sometimes, and like I

444
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,760
Speaker 1: was right about it because it certainly looked bad in

445
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,680
Speaker 1: that first half too. And such a long season for

446
00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,240
Speaker 1: a guy with a smaller frame to lose twenty pounds

447
00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,440
Speaker 1: is a lot for Mookie Betts. For Welsh to lose

448
00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 1: twenty pounds, Yeah, that's the big deal. It starts to

449
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,760
Speaker 1: look more handsome, all right. I love when he's not

450
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,600
Speaker 1: here and we can take shots.

451
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,080
Speaker 4: You can take a shot to him these last couple

452
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 4: of days, me and you.

453
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, let's get to the next tier here.

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Speaker 1: all right. Second tier Trevor Story at thirteen here, coming

470
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000
Speaker 1: off a really solid year for the Red Sox. I'll

471
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,120
Speaker 1: admit did not see that coming. Willia Domas but less

472
00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,159
Speaker 1: than thrilling season their first year in San Fran. A

473
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 1: lot of those concerns we had about that ballpark factor,

474
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 1: unfortunately came home to roost. Michael Garcia at fifteen, Jacob

475
00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,560
Speaker 1: Wilson mister batting average at sixteen, Dansby Swans at seventeen,

476
00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 1: Xavier Edwards at eighteen, Colson Montgomery the rookie. We've had

477
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 1: some debates about here at nineteen, Ezekiel Tovar at twenty,

478
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 1: Xander Bogarts at twenty one, Jackson Holiday dropping all the

479
00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 1: way to twenty two. I think this is a little

480
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 1: bit too much for me. I would still take him

481
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 1: around Dansby Swanson range, to be honest, I think the

482
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 1: upside still is there. Mason went at twenty three and

483
00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,520
Speaker 1: then Atto Lopez at twenty four. Let's talk about Willia

484
00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 1: Domas too. So obviously, last year, Frank not the season

485
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,919
Speaker 1: Willia Damas was hoping for. He fell in drafts with

486
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: good reason. But even with that fall, the expectations really

487
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 1: just especially with the season before, weren't quite where they were.

488
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,959
Speaker 1: But then or late rally in the season, so if

489
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: you bought low on him, things started to turn around.

490
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,679
Speaker 1: He did end up with thirty home runs eighty seven rbi,

491
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 1: so the stats were there, but the first beginning of

492
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: the season was rough if you had Willia Damas, and

493
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: it might have even knocked you out of contention in

494
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: some of those leads with their playoffs if you ended

495
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: up selling him low. So it's a complicated year for

496
00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 1: a Damas. So what are you buying in what you's

497
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 1: on the first half or the rally in the second

498
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 1: after signed the big contract, I.

499
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: See more of the second half player for Willia Damas,

500
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 2: and I was off of him last year as well,

501
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, that first year, big contract, New City. I

502
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: typically just stay away from players like that, and especially

503
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: him going into San Francisco where it's not a great

504
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 2: place to hit. It's not awful for right handed hitters

505
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 2: like it is for left handed hitters. But yeah, in

506
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 2: that second half he got much better, especially July.

507
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 3: I mean it was some monster.

508
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 2: July had no ps around eleven hundred during that time,

509
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 2: and by the end of the season he pretty much

510
00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 2: got there.

511
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Speaker 1: Right.

512
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 2: Thirty home runs, Yeah, that's twelve steals, two twenty five

513
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 2: batting average.

514
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 3: That's always going to be a problem.

515
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: I think he's probably somewhere in that two twenty to

516
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: two forty range. I see that as his you know,

517
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 2: range of outcomes for batting average. Here, he kind of

518
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 2: feels like the ultimate fallback option at shortstop. I'd much

519
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: rather have one of the higher end options. And it

520
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 2: really just depends on what draft pick you have, because hey,

521
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: if you have a top three pick, you're taking Bobby

522
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: with Junior. If you have a late first round pick,

523
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: you're probably taking Ellie or Gunner Henderson or maybe Trey

524
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: Turner in the second or third round. So I would

525
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 2: much rather just build my team out with one of

526
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 2: those elite shortstops. But if you somehow miss out on

527
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,680
Speaker 2: all of them, I think Willia Damas as a fallback

528
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 2: option is totally fine, not sexy, but totally fine.

529
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Speaker 1: But it was basically July carried him because, as you

530
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 1: pointed out, Frank three thirty seven, batting average, seven homers,

531
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: twenty one RBI one thousand, ninety six ops. Going through

532
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,959
Speaker 1: the other months, Arico, check this out. Batting average in

533
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: April and ops two eight five ninety two, in May

534
00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 1: two oh six six fifty two, in June two sixteen,

535
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: six seventy five. We already said July was amazing. August

536
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 1: yikes one ninety seven to twenty nine, and then two

537
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 1: o seven seven to fifty nine. So really it was

538
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 1: one stellar month. So if you had him in a

539
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: season long league and you're just looking for the stats

540
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: at the end, to Frank's point, they showed up. But

541
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: if you're in head to head leagues like where I play,

542
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: brutal year for Willia Damas, where you're just like the

543
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 1: batting averager was killing you, and the slow start was

544
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 1: killing you, and then the erratic statistics month to month

545
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: just all over the place. Basically, if you trade for

546
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: him in June, you loved life, but if you had

547
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: him for every other month, you were pretty much out

548
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Speaker 1: of luck. What are your thoughts on Willia Damas this year?

549
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: Is you ranked two low or just right?

550
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 4: I think Frank pretty much nailed it. He's a great

551
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 4: fallback option. Everybody wants to end up with one of

552
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 4: the top names. You want to get a Turner, a

553
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 4: netto a Bobby witt Ellie. Whoever, if you miss out,

554
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 4: and a lot of people are gonna miss out, especially

555
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 4: because I play in a lot of fifteen team leagues,

556
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 4: you might have to have Willia Damas as you're starting shortstop,

557
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 4: and I'm fine with that in a fifteen team, or

558
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 4: if you're in a twelve teamer that he is a

559
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 4: middle infielder slash utility type. But you know, even in

560
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: a year that was pretty poor for the majority of it,

561
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 4: thirty homers, twelve steals, you know, I really like San

562
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 4: Francisco's lineup as well. I think a rise at the

563
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 4: top really fits Devers. I think people have kind of

564
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: moved the other way too quickly on him. I think

565
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 4: he's still really, really good. And then behind adamis who's

566
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 4: gonna hit third? You have Chapman, Jung, Hulei, Elliott, Ramos, Bader, Price,

567
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: eldridg This is a really strong lineup. I think the

568
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 4: counting stats are safe. I think he's still a twenty

569
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,439
Speaker 4: five to thirty home run guy. At least thirty homers

570
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 4: and three of the last four seasons, so I think,

571
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 4: you know, twenty five feels like the floor for him,

572
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 4: and he's gonna chip in some speed as well. So

573
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 4: while the batting average isn't great, I think you can

574
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 4: kind of work around that. You can make up for

575
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 4: that with the and Andy Diaz is the Jacob Wilson type,

576
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 4: so you can draft a little bit later on. So

577
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 4: I wouldn't stay away from him just because of the

578
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 4: batting average. When he's providing a lot, and you know

579
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 4: that first year in a new contracting that that really

580
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: can impact some players. So year two, without as much pressure,

581
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 4: we might see Willia Damas go back closer to what

582
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: he did in twenty twenty four.

583
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get continue on with this group here,

584
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: a Rico, talk to me about a target in this group,

585
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: because this is really more the middle infielder kind of group,

586
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 1: or as you said, the deeper leagues were, we're kind

587
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: of at that bottom of the position. Who's a target

588
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 1: in this range that you think is a solid draft investment.

589
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a it's a relatively boring player, so forgive

590
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 4: me there. But Dansby Swanson, who's ADP is right around

591
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 4: one point fifty. You can usually find him a little

592
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 4: bit later, depending on your specific draft. But he's a

593
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 4: guy who pretty much does the same thing every year

594
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 4: twenty and twenty roughly. Last season was twenty four homers,

595
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 4: twenty steals. He hit two forty four. It's a really

596
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 4: good lineup in Chicago. He plays every single day pretty much.

597
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 3: One fifty nine.

598
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: Last year was one forty nine, one forty seven, one

599
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 4: sixty two, one sixty. This is a guy who's punching

600
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 4: six hundred played appearance seasons, who's giving you good counting stats.

601
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: I mean, twenty steels is actually a career high last year,

602
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: but three of the last four seasons it's at least

603
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: eighteen stolen bases. He just feels like a very very

604
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 4: safe asset again in a really good lineup. I'm not

605
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: sure where Dansby ends up slotting in, probably somewhere in

606
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 4: the middle, but there's gonna be a lot of running

607
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: RBI opportunities for him to go along with what's probably

608
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 4: another twenty twenty season. He's still just thirty two years old,

609
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 4: and I think he's got a few more of these

610
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 4: really solid years in the tank. He just feels like

611
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 4: a guy where everybody's looking for the flashyar name. They

612
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 4: want to take the young, up and coming prospects, and

613
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 4: a guy like Swanson usually ends up falling. I think

614
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: a round or two later then you should.

615
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the veterans tend to slip through the cracks a

616
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: little bit. People play for upside, but certainly getting a

617
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: baseline is very good. Frank, how about for you? Is

618
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: there somebody that you like to target in this range?

619
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Speaker 3: So I'll give you a few names here. I agree.

620
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: I agree completely with Rico here on Dansby Swanson, especially

621
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 2: if you play in a deeper league. He just comes,

622
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: he posts, he plays every day. He's gonna give you

623
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: that near twenty twenty. Another one like a domis where

624
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's not the sexy pick, but it's

625
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: a high floor there with Dansby Swanson.

626
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Speaker 3: I know MIKEL. Garcia is technically on this list.

627
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: I think he has shortstop eligibility on Yahoo and not

628
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Speaker 2: other places.

629
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Speaker 3: So I love MIKEL. Garcia this year.

630
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: But if we're just talking about shortstop across all the platforms.

631
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: Another boring guy, Xander Boguards. It's as boring as it gets.

632
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 2: Totally get it. But someone that just doesn't hurt you. Man,

633
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 2: He's gonna give you a solid batting average, ten to

634
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 2: fifteen home runs, around twenty seals. He has nineteen plus

635
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: steals in two of the last three years. And just

636
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 2: wonder if can we get this dead cat bounce from

637
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: Xander Bogart's where last year, Look, George Springer was written

638
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: for debt. No one expected anything from George Springer comes

639
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 2: out has that massive season. I am not expecting that

640
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: from Bogarts, but it wouldn't surprise me if he bounces

641
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: back a little bit here, if he could stay healthy.

642
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: You know, he's dealt with some nagging things over the

643
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: past couple of years. But fifteen to fifteen guy, good

644
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Speaker 2: batting average middle infielder in like a deeper league.

645
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Speaker 3: He's going to play every day.

646
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Speaker 2: He's got that massive contract and in an okay top

647
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Speaker 2: half of the Padres lineup.

648
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,719
Speaker 3: Bogart's boring guy like him as a middle infielder.

649
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Rico had that George Springer poster above his

650
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: bad all season last year. It really worked out, was

651
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Speaker 1: really good. It's funny you mentioned that because like he's

652
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Speaker 1: turned thirty six. I'm just like, he's never hit three

653
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Speaker 1: hundred another season before coming off a massive Like I

654
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Speaker 1: just top seventy five. I just can't get there. I

655
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: just can't believe it's a repeat. I don't know. So

656
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Speaker 1: check that video out on our social media, just three

657
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Speaker 1: guys that I'm not drafting at their ADP. It's a

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Speaker 1: at fantracks dot com slash Fantasy Pros. That's fantracks dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Fantasy Pros. All right, So we talked about

678
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: our target in this group in here, in this second tier.

679
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 1: Is there anybody, Frank that scares the heck out of

680
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: you that you absolutely will not draft in the second tier?

681
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: You're like, nope, no, no, certain, not for me.

682
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 2: So Trevor's story is one that stands out here. And look,

683
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: he is coming off a fantastic season. One of ten

684
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: hitters to go twenty five thirty last season. He was

685
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: a top forty overall player last year, and I liked

686
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: buying him last season when his ADP was outside the

687
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: top two hundred. Now his ADP is around one hundred.

688
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: I don't trust the plate discipline. He doesn't walk very much,

689
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: he strikes out a lot. And the injuries. Man, he

690
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: managed to stay healthy last year. You love that that

691
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: was last year. You look at the three years prior

692
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: to that, he I think averaged around fifty games played

693
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: during those three years prior to last season. So still

694
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: think that there's injury risk here. Don't like the plate discipline.

695
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: I don't like him, you know, again, just buying coming

696
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: off of that big season last year. So Trevor's story

697
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: again at a position where there's so much talent, there's

698
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: so much high in talent. I just don't see why

699
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: you need to take risks on Haraldo Perdomo repeating or

700
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: Trevor story staying healthy for another season. I'd rather just

701
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: go in another direction, all right.

702
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: So that's the bust at the shortstop position. Obviously, I'm

703
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: not going to make you go through it twice. So Arico,

704
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: give me your bust at shortstop. It could be a

705
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: guy in this tier or in that first year if

706
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: you like as well, well, I.

707
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 4: Can go for the big kahunaburger right here and go

708
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: for Ellie de la Cruz.

709
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Speaker 1: Not that I and unpopular. I can feel the YouTube

710
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: comments help.

711
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: The state of Ohio is coming for me in the

712
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 4: YouTube comments, as we said they should, as they should potentially. Now,

713
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 4: I don't think that Ellie is going to bust to

714
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: the point where it's like, oh, you're dropping Ellie in

715
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 4: May like, No, nothing like that. I just think relative

716
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: to the other players that you're taking here inside of

717
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: the top ten or twelve picks, not at shortstop, but

718
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 4: overall on the board, if you're taking him, you're passing

719
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 4: up on potentially Acunya Rodriguez, maybe one of those top

720
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 4: starting pitchers, whether it's Crochet, Skens, Gunner, Henderson, there's Tattoos,

721
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 4: there's Tucker, There's so many names that I just feel

722
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 4: safer about projecting from a five category standpoint With Ellie.

723
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 4: I think that the injury definitely hampered the power. But

724
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: that being said, twenty five home runs in twenty twenty

725
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: four as well, I don't know that he is a

726
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: guy who can hit you thirty plus without changing a lot.

727
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 4: Because he is a ground ball merchant. Fifty one percent

728
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: ground ball rate, seven degree launch angle. There's just not

729
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: going to be thirty five forty home runs without some

730
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 4: drastic changes. The speed is great, but you can get speed.

731
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: You can put together speed throughout your draft. I think

732
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 4: it's very great. It's great to get forty steals in

733
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: the first round. You don't have to worry about it

734
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: for a few rounds. But I don't know that we're

735
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 4: going to be getting the batting average. I don't know

736
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: that we're getting the power. And I think the speed

737
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Speaker 4: maybe it comes down a little bit more, even like

738
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: it probably goes back into the forties. But what if

739
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 4: Eli de la Cruz steals thirty two bases and his

740
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: twenty four homers.

741
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Speaker 3: It's not bad.

742
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Speaker 4: And I don't think that he is going to be

743
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Speaker 4: a bust in the sense of, like, you know, he's

744
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 4: having a horrible season. But I think we're looking at

745
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 4: maybe like a third or fourth round valuation by the

746
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,479
Speaker 4: time all is said and done, and I think you're

747
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 4: passing up on guys who I feel are more five

748
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 4: category locks early on.

749
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Speaker 1: I will say this, there we go last year in

750
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Speaker 1: the first half eighteen Homers in ninety seven games sixty

751
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: three RBI two eighty four, three fifty nine four ninety

752
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: five slash with an a fifty four ops. That's the

753
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: player we all hope he's going to be. Second half

754
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: was brutal injuries issues for Homers twenty three RBI in

755
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: his last sixty five games, slash was two thirty six,

756
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: three oh three, three sixty three with an ops of

757
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: six sixty six. This is a very important year for

758
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: Ellie de la Cruz. I think for a lot of

759
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: fantasy managers, like I think all of us are going,

760
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: all right, we know the talent, what all, the ballpark

761
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: factor is good, lineup's pretty good around him. Suarez is

762
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: a more lineup protection too. That's a nice addition. I

763
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: think we're all going, Okay, Ellie, we're gonna give you

764
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: a break here because you know, league makes adjustments. You

765
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: got to make adjustments back. But this is a crucial

766
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: season I think for Ellie de la Cruz going forward

767
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: in his fantasy value. All right, let's talk about sleepers,

768
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: because that's always fun. So Stamps, give me a guy

769
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: that you think is a sleeper this position. I think

770
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: your choice is gonna be my choice as well.

771
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 2: So I am going to cheat once again, because that's

772
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: all I've been doing this podcast.

773
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 3: If you stop out it and cheating and all that.

774
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: JJ Weatherholt, who is a top prospect to base, the

775
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: top prospect for the Saint Louis Cardinals. He has shortstop

776
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: eligibility on all sites, but likely to play second or

777
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: third base for the Cardinals this season, and with all

778
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 2: the trades that they've made, it looks like the runway

779
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: is open for him to make the opening day roster.

780
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 2: I understand that rookies over the past handfull of years,

781
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: they typically struggle their first taste in majors. I think

782
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: Weatherholts I think is different. He has really good plate discipline,

783
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 2: about as many walks as shrikeouts. He's got some power

784
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: and speed last year seventeen homers, twenty three steals, nine

785
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: thirty one ohps across three different levels, and like someone

786
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: like Connor Griffin, who is the top prospect in all

787
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: of baseball, also shortstop eligible, JJ Weatherholk got better at

788
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: every level last season, so I think he's ready. He

789
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: hits the ball hard, there's power, speed, fantastic plate discipline.

790
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: I think Saint Louis is kind of going through this

791
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: youth movement right now, so I think they're gonna leave

792
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: him up, maybe kind of work through some of the struggles,

793
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: but wouldn't surprise me if we get you know, a

794
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: fifteen to fifteen season good batting average here, good on

795
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: bass County Sat should be all right. I predicted, you know,

796
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: work his way up to the top half of that

797
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 2: lineup as well. So JJ Weatherhole for me, I think

798
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: we get a nice little rookie year here.

799
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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of JJ Weatherhold. I think he's

800
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: just a contact machine throwback kind of guy too, you know,

801
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: getting on bass make he put them all in play.

802
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: What a concept. I love that. You know, he's got

803
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: to speed, got a little pop in there. I just

804
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: I love the approach of the at bats. I love

805
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: the swing. I love it. When they drafted him, well

806
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: all show tell you. I was very excited, like, oh,

807
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna be a rock star. I just feel

808
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: like that. All right. So that's your sleeper, JJ Weatherholder

809
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Rico who is yours? It's a guy we might have

810
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: mentioned already.

811
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 4: Frankie stolen from me, but he summed it up really

812
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 4: well with Xander Bogart's. I mean he's outside of the

813
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 4: top twenty shortstops. Outside of the top twenty short stops.

814
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: People are drafting Auto Lopez ahead of him, Ezekiel Tovar,

815
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 4: Xavier Edwards. It's a big snorre Fest right above him.

816
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 4: In terms of ADP, what Bogarts does in a good

817
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 4: lineup pretty much the same thing as Swanson, but a

818
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: little bit less. Right, He's not giving you quite the

819
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 4: same number of home runs recently, but you're still getting

820
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: double digit homers. We got a career high in stolen bases.

821
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: We're getting a good batting average from him two sixty

822
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 4: three this past year, but we know that there is

823
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 4: a three hundred batting average upside. Was ANDERW. Bogart's Is

824
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: it gonna happen? Probably not, But like we said with

825
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 4: George Springer, who knows it could happen. He could hit

826
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 4: two ninety, he could hit three ten, and I wouldn't

827
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: really be surprised by it. But also that top of

828
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 4: the order. I think Frank might have even undersold that

829
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: Tatists Merril Machado Bogarts could end up hitting anywhere from

830
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 4: four to six. But that is a really good RBI

831
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 4: spot for him as if he's able to stick there

832
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 4: the whole season. I really like Lamon Loreano. I really

833
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 4: like Gavin Sheets as well. I think they have a

834
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 4: really solid top of the order, but I do expect

835
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 4: that Bogarts will kind of bounce around in that middle third.

836
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: I just think overall, he's in a really good spot

837
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 4: for value. But outside of the top two hundred picks

838
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 4: on averages ADP, if you're looking at NFBC two twenty

839
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 4: over the last few weeks, just that's just too far befall.

840
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the top twelve is pretty solid too, Even Jeremy Pina,

841
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: you know, had a great first half two obviously, injuries

842
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: kind of derailed him in the second. But it's pretty

843
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: good grouping there. You have some questions Lindor injury, Perdomo's breakout,

844
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: cj Abrams mindset, like, there's a lot of There's definitely

845
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: some things you can throw in there as wrinkles, but overall,

846
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: I think makes you feel better than some other positions

847
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: that we've already done here on the show. All right,

848
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about the must have guys, the guys that

849
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: we don't want to leave drafts without. Frank talk to

850
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: me about who that player is where, like, Okay, this

851
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: is my target. This is where I feel comfortable in

852
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: terms of my return on investment at the short stop position.

853
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: This might not surprise anybody, but I do like the

854
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 2: early round guys. So it's just depending on where I'm drafting.

855
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: You know, I would love to get Bobby Witt or

856
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: Trey Turner or Gunner Henderson, but I'm not going to

857
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: take one of those guys. I also like whoa Rico

858
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: has here, but I'm not going to steal that player.

859
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: I do think if you wait until the middle rounds

860
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: of drafts. I still do like Corey Seeger a lot,

861
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: and I get that he has dealt with a lot

862
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: of injuries. You know, same argument as Trevor Story. But

863
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: the difference here is that Corey Seeger is still a really,

864
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: really good hitter. He is one of the best hitters

865
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: in baseball when he's on the field among shortstops. With

866
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 2: four hundred played appearances last season his eight sixty ops

867
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 2: one thirty eight WRC plus they were both number one

868
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: at the position. His stat cast page is to lit

869
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: up in red. He hits the crap out of the ball.

870
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: We're just a few years removed from him hitting well

871
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: over three hundred thirty home runs. I think he did

872
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: that in like one hundred and thirty games, so he's likely.

873
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 3: Going to miss time. He reminds me.

874
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: Of like katel Marte at the shortstop position, except he's going,

875
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: you know, fifty to sixty picks after kotel Marte. And

876
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: the way that I've been building out my category league

877
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: rosters is I want to build up batting average in power,

878
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: and as Arico mentioned early on, you could find.

879
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 3: Steals throughout the course of the draft.

880
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: So give me someone like Corey Seer which will continue

881
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 2: to build that batting average foundation. Give me twenty five

882
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 2: plus home runs, and if you somehow stays healthy for

883
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: like one hundred and forty hundred and fifty, I mean

884
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 2: you could get thirty thirty five home runs. And I

885
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: do think that's still the upside there for Corey Seeger.

886
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: So going just inside the top one hundred if I

887
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: miss out in the early round names, Corey Seeger is

888
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 2: one that I do like to target there, all.

889
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: Right, Arico, who's your target at the shortstop position? If

890
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: you can get one.

891
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 4: And somebody that you're about to become very familiar with

892
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: Joey and it's Boba Shat. I don't under stand the

893
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: price of Bobashet this year. I understood last year. I

894
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 4: understood why he wasn't as expensive as he typically wasn't

895
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 4: going into twenty twenty five. But he rebounded to pretty

896
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 4: much the levels we saw in twenty twenty two and

897
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three. He hit three eleven, best contact rates

898
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 4: of his career. He's going to gain third base eligibility,

899
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 4: and hell, I don't really trust him at third. I

900
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 4: think that we could see third base, second base, shortstop

901
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: eligibility from bow. I could see them bouncing him all over.

902
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: But even if they just put him at third and

903
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: it works, then you're adding one of the worst positions

904
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: on the diamond to him. Why is he going the

905
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: same place he did last year? This was his ADP

906
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 4: heading into twenty twenty five. He was going around pick

907
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 4: one hundred, like one hundred to one twenty range, and

908
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 4: his ADP is one oh two over the last two weeks.

909
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 4: This feels like a guy who should be going where

910
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 4: he was going for the early couple of years of

911
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 4: his career. Granted, you're not getting those steals anymore. But

912
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 4: you're getting twenty homers, you're getting close to one hundred

913
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: runs in ribies. That lineup is ridiculous, and you're getting

914
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: late batting average. You're getting late batting average. Where at

915
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 4: this point of the draft, outside of pick a hundred

916
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 4: getting a guy who can compete for a batting title.

917
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: He may have won the batting title last year if

918
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: he didn't get hurt down the stretch. So there feels

919
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 4: like no downside really here with Bobachett. People might say, oh,

920
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: I just signed the contract, but he can opt out

921
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: every year. He's essentially a free agent each of the

922
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 4: next those seasons as well, so he's still incentivized to

923
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 4: play his best. He's not kicking up and relaxing for

924
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: the next ten years. He's still trying to get as

925
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 4: much money as he can. And I think Bobachett is

926
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 4: going to do another twenty five home run, three hundred

927
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 4: bating average, close to one hundred RBI season like I

928
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,760
Speaker 4: came to expect in Toronto for this last decade.

929
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: I agree, That's why I took him in that draft. Yesterday.

930
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: We did go check it out myself. Scott Bogman, jol Rico,

931
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: Kelly Kirby the Wonky Penguin. It was a fun draft.

932
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 1: If for no other reason, you can watch Scott Bogman

933
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: draft Spencer Fallenbach and then four minutes later learned that

934
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: he goes on the sixty day Il Joe breaking that

935
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: news to him. And then the funniest part is he

936
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: took santandera later and then a couple hours after that,

937
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: oh boom, he's out for six months. Should be left.

938
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: It was hilarious. Uh just everything he touched and turned

939
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: to dust is unbelievable. But look, I took Bashett in

940
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: that draft. I took Mookie Betts in that same draft too.

941
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: I got good value on both of those eyes. At

942
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: the turn, I have to go back and see. I

943
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: want to say, it's like fifth and six round. I

944
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: think I got those guys. I'm pretty sure we're somewhere

945
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: around there. So again, check it out for strategy trying

946
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: to help you out here, and of course check out

947
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: all of our series here on the Ultimate Guide. So far,

948
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: we've got a bunch in the can already. We're gonna

949
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: keep moving around the diamond. We got catcher, we got outfield,

950
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: we got starting pitchers still to come. We've got some

951
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: great guests lined up for you, so subscribe to the channel,

952
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: subscribe to the feed, and of course go check out

953
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Frank Stamfle and the CBS boys. They do fantastic work

954
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: as well, and of course you can listen to all

955
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: his stories about Derek Jeter also in his youth, and

956
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: that's always a good time. FRANKI it was great to

957
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: see you, buddy, Love you man. It's great to have

958
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: you on the show today. Appreciate you coming on.

959
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Likewise, guys, two of my favorites in the industry.

960
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: I really do mean that. I appreciate you guys having

961
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 3: me on.

962
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: And look, shortstop loaded position really be happy with a

963
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: bunch of names on this list, but yeah, happy to

964
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: do it.

965
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: Joe Rico, shortstop of your youth. Who would it be

966
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: for you before we close things out today? Who's your

967
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: guy that you always like? Oh, I love the way

968
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: this guy plays, or you know, the all the bad,

969
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: the glove whatever. We maybe all of them.

970
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: So there was a short stop for the Blue Jays

971
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 4: back in the day, and I'll say a non blue

972
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 4: Jay as well, because you know, how can Frank not

973
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: be allowed to say Jeeter? But I get to say

974
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 4: a Blue Jay. No John McDonald, who most people probably

975
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: don't remember, defensive specialist for the Toronto Blue Jays, also

976
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 4: played for Cleveland in the two thousands, but a guy

977
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: who is just so good defensively. He'd hit one or

978
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 4: two home runs a year, but famously had a home

979
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 4: run on Father's Day of the year his dad passed away.

980
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 4: Really really great dude. Loved watching him in Toronto, but

981
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 4: that glove was gorgeous. If I'm going outside of Toronto,

982
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go to Michael Young, the former Texas ranger

983
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: who did bounce around the infield a little bit. He

984
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: wasn't strictly a short stop, but every year Michael Young

985
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,959
Speaker 4: would hitch you twenty home runs. He'd steal double digit

986
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 4: bases a good one, he'd drive in about one hundred.

987
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 4: He'd score about one hundred times, and for his career

988
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 4: over two thousand games, he was a three hundred hitter

989
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: on the dot. He did a lot that I really

990
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: enjoyed watching and playing MLB the show as a kid.

991
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 4: Michael Young always always on those sausage draft teams.

992
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: Solid fantasy asset too, for many year. You know, I

993
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: grew up in the eighties of the Cal Ripken and

994
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: the Ossie Smith eras some great shortstops. But you know,

995
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: I always loved Swan Dunstan of the Chicago Cubs. The

996
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: guy had an absolute cannon, okay, one of the greatest

997
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: arms I've ever seen on any baseball player period. And

998
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: he used to wear his hat up a little high.

999
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: And he was from Brooklyn. I was from Brooklyn. I

1000
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: thought he was the coolest thing ever. I used to

1001
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: love to when somebody would ground out to him, just

1002
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: to watch him kind of take his time and throw

1003
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: an absolute rocket to first base. It was terrifying to

1004
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean, how Mark Grayce did it those years too.

1005
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: Schwan Dunstan, if you ever saw him, go back and

1006
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: watch the hose on that guy. Unbelievable arm at shortstop.

1007
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 1: All right, gentlemen, great stuff here, as always, check out

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00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: the rest of our Ultimate Guide series here and Fantasy

1009
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Pros MLB. That'll do it for us, But the story

1010
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: of the game goes on for Frank Stanfel and Joe Rico.

1011
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,600
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