WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Weighing The Options With 88 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:04.240 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.440 and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:11.120 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:15.480 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.680 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:25.959 Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman and bar Garcia and 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.360 Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, January thirty, first, twenty eighteen, 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.519 Season thirteen, episode number one oh one. Welcome to another 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.400 edition of The Break. I am Derek Eagleton and we're 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:39.080 here live in the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:41.400 It feels like it's been a little while, two weeks, 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.519 feels like an eternity in the offseason. But happy to 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.800 have the crew back here. We're talking Cowboys football here 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:48.960 with you guys for an hour. It's super Bowl week, 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:51.560 so at some point in this show we're gonna nail 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.960 everybody down on Super Bowl predictions and see what these 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.720 guys think is going to happen Sunday for Super Bowl Sunday, 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.600 and then we'll probably get into I know, we will 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.080 get into some desk talk. I think that's gonna be interesting. 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:05.760 Dave had a little tweet yesterday that kind of sparked 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.280 my interest a little bit. So we're gonna talk a 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.160 little bit about Dez Bryant, and we'll start in the show. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.440 It's some here at the beginning, talking a little bit 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.959 about some coaching changes that have happened. How's everybody doing today, 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:21.800 doing great? Derek good? Good? Great. I saw Dave's tweet 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.200 and I decided to hold myself and save it for 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:27.319 the show. Oh wow, it, But I'm like, I'll just 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:31.319 wait till tomorrow we go getting into this. We're gonna 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:32.959 get into this. We're not gonna get into it right 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.160 now because we've got a couple of things we need 0:01:34.200 --> 0:01:36.600 to hit first, but we're definitely gonna get into this. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.240 I want to talk about this because me and Nick 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:40.120 has some interesting conversations too. I think Nick has some 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.560 interesting opinions there on Dez Bryant. So not not that 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.120 everybody in the in the whole country that's a Cowboys 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.360 fan or otherwise doesn't have an opinion. There's a lot 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.320 of people talking right now about Dez Bryant. Good point. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.360 We'll jump into that conversation. Before we do that, though, 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.000 catch me up on some news around the coaches. We've 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.120 heard some reports. Now, of course, we got to make 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.400 it clear the Cowboys have not made an official statement 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.400 on any of the coaching changes UM inspecting them to 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:05.760 do that sometime around May. Yeah. I think at some 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.360 point they'll get around to that and say it's a 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.080 good good time to maybe introduce everybody. But I mean, 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.920 if it just history serves correct, they typically like to 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:14.960 do it as one big thing, right, they make one 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:18.160 big kind of introduction, but what tell me about the 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:22.440 last okay that they do. But that's dumb, okay, so 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.919 that's not you're not announcing anything. Yeah, I mean, well 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.280 that's just I don't know why they do that. You 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:30.480 probably it's probably should be called an introduction. Yeah, not 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.760 an announcement, it's an introduct Please don't send a press 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:36.280 release to say that they they've signed or they've added 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:41.519 Paul Alexander who's had probably is no longer hear type thing, right, Yeah, 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:43.799 I don't know. It'll be an introduction at some point 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:47.119 where they'll introduce to the media. But officially, here are coachings, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.200 our coach, but our listeners know what's going on. They follow. 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:56.480 So the latest stuff is just that they've UM unofficially 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:01.000 officially announced that men Bloom will be the linebackers coach. 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.880 It sounds like Keith o quinn will be the special 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:08.919 team's coach. Yeah, that leaves one unbelievable coach to coach 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.440 Jason Witten to be the eighth tight end coach for 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:15.960 Jason Witten, I was joking around, I guess yesterday when 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.200 they announced, So, I mean, that's those are the final 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:20.720 two hires that we don't have a pretty good idea of. 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:24.040 I mean, Jerry Jones said that they have an agreement 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.280 with Kellen Moore in place, but he wouldn't say what 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.480 your guests is as good as mine what it could 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:33.279 be if it's not quarterbacks coach. Um. Yeah, So realistically, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.360 there's one vacancy left on the staff, which is tight ends. 0:03:36.400 --> 0:03:39.520 And isn't it clear Jason that you really don't are 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.280 the coach and you don't really need a coach? I 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.080 am about to say. I was joking yesterday. I was like, 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.840 would anybody even like bat and eyelid if they just 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.640 were like, we're just gonna have Jason Witten player coach. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.120 We're gonna have him be the player coach. Does it 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.680 happened in the NFL. I don't know. I'm sure that 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.000 happened back in the day. I don't remember anybody other 0:03:57.080 --> 0:04:00.000 than Pete Rose ever being a player coach Bill Russell 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.040 tattoo yeah, Bill Russell. Yeh um, you say tattoo Yeah, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:08.560 Dallas sidekicks great tattoo player coach. Okay, that was like 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.200 he lost me with tattoo. I had no idea, but yeah, okay, 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.560 now you now I'm back with MLS. I would like 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.400 if they were just like, yeah, Jason Witten is gonna 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.159 be tight end one end coach, and he's gonna teach 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.400 Hannah and Swim and whoever else, Enrico and whoever else 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:26.520 is here. Uh, and that'll just be it. You know, 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.000 the coaching's gonna go do what I do. Yeah, And 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:30.200 I would just be like, just do what I do. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.080 I would just be like, yeah, that's fine. I mean, okay, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.799 like who are they gonna bring in? I mean, who's 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:36.960 who they bringing in that You're just like, well, this 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.600 is this is the authority on tight ends right here. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.640 I mean, that's more of an authority than Jason Witten 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:45.520 probably be some Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't care at 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.520 all if Jason Witten was the player coach that doesn't 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.520 need to have that would be interestless. It does not, No, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.800 it does not. I'm sure they will hire a tight ends, 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:54.279 absolutely something. There'll be somebody in this day's up till 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.000 midnight and gets here at five am and cuts up 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.640 tape and runs the practice. That should not He doesn't 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.279 have to do that. That should not be Jason. What 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.000 do you guys think about those hires though? How do 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.800 you feel about those hires one way or the other? 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:08.160 Happy for Keith O'Quinn. I think he's definitely paid his 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.080 dues and he's you know, he's done a lot of things. 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.919 I mean, when you think about what makes Will McClay 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.280 good as Miltwill was a coach, and he was a 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:22.240 coach that now is into the player personnel role that 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:26.000 understands what coaches need. And I think Keith O'Quinn, you know, 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:27.400 he was kind of the other way around. He was 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.360 in the scouting department for a while and now he's 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:31.680 been a coach and so you know, he's been bounced 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.560 around different positions, so it's a good opportunity for him, 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:36.480 and I guess the same could kind of be said 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.320 about Ben Bloom. Right, he's put in his dudes and 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.880 been here. Why quite a while. He's been in. He's 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.040 put in quite a bit of dudes in a variety 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.040 of places. I mean, I think he was he's done. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.120 He's done a little bit of special teams. He was 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:50.719 like special projects. He's a defensive end coach. A couple 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:54.080 of years ago he was Rob Ryan's the one that 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.200 brought him here. Right, Yeah, yes, so he's been I mean, 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.720 he's been putting in So what's what's that seven years. 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.760 I won't quote everything Rob Bryan said because he wasn't 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.760 always flattering towards Ben Bloom, but he you know, but 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:08.720 he said, there are smarter people in the world. They 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.479 just work at NASA. That's what That's what he said 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:15.320 about Ben Bloom. Super smart guy. Think took toughs. Uh. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.760 He had kind of a six lags roller coaster of 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.160 a coaching. I mean there was some time when it 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:21.919 didn't look like he was even going to be on 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:23.599 the staff, and there were other times where it looked 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.400 like he was the rising star of the staff. Yeah, 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.320 he was the young guy that you expected to but 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.560 into the top at something. I didn't expect him to 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:32.240 be on the staff this next year. I don't know 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.200 if he did. And now he's a position coach for 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:37.080 the first time, so, you know, great opportunity for he's 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.039 he's worked with linebackers before, but it was in a 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:42.200 three fourth scheme. His buyer will tell you that they 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.120 went to two linebackers made it the Pro Bowl that year. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:46.839 He worked as an assistant. I don't know if he 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.640 was helping DeMarcus Ware make his seventh Pro Bowl or whatever, 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.719 but well, if there's a position, great where he's going 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.640 to another. If you told me, if you told me that, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:58.120 they were like, well, we're just gonna make Sean Lee 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.880 the linebackers coach, I again would not really bad and eyelid. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.600 So yeah, but you still are developing some young guys, 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.479 Jalen Smith being one of them that you got to 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:09.159 take some time with, right Yeah, which I mean my 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.440 point being there's there's a guy in that room who 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.720 can help him a lot in Shawn Lee. So and 0:07:14.120 --> 0:07:16.960 I don't know, we'll see where it goes. That's it's 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.880 it's interesting. It's interesting the way that they did all this, 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.120 like a lot of in house promotions and then a 0:07:22.120 --> 0:07:26.560 lot of like really far outside help. I mean, you know, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:30.440 Chris Richard is expected to be secondaries coach and passing 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:35.640 game coordinator, taking over the Mattie Refluse role. Recruiter, Yeah, 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.640 Sanjay Sanjay Lal is your new receivers coach. So like 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:42.120 they they went and Paul Alexander. I don't remember if 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:43.920 we've talked about him, because it's been a minute since 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:47.200 we've been on the air, but again, a very established 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.000 offensive line coach coming from CINCI. So like a lot 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.520 of established guys coming from other places, and then a 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.760 lot of just promoting your own. So it's a little 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:56.600 bit of mix and match. But the thing is it 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:00.080 shouldn't surprise you the promoting from your own because it 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.480 still seems like their overall objective here was to keep continuity. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.960 And some of these coaches that they lost were not 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.560 coaches they necessarily wanted to lose. They were coaches that 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.200 got other opportunities and decided to take those other opportunities. 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.160 I would mention like Ebrafluis was Eberflus a guy they 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.160 necessarily wanted to leave. He left because he had another opportunity. 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.440 They very much wanted him to stay, right, And you 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.960 can talk about him you can talk about Besachia. Did 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.160 they want to get rid of Besacchia? He's obviously already 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.600 has a job. But I'm just saying he already has 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.160 a job. So we don't know if it was kind 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.520 of a mutual thing or were they trying to get 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.000 rid of him. I don't know. You tell me, well, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.360 I mean if they if they didn't want him to go, 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.240 they didn't have to let him go. I mean, he 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.839 wasn't he was under contract. Understood that. But that's also 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.120 a thing of Okay, so do you keep a coach 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.880 and it's you know, you have done a disgruntled coach. 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:45.800 I mean they've done that before, and as soon as 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.240 the guy was able to leave, he was out the door, right. 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.920 Jerry classified it as the right thing to do, which 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.880 is I mean, yeah, I mean it's you know, John 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:55.240 Gruden is an old friend of his and they've worked 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.320 together going back away as he helped them win that 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.720 Super Bowl in Tampa. But to suggest that he didn't really, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.640 I mean they he's gonna sleep well at night that 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.680 rich Bisacci is not here like here, Yeah, I mean yeah, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.720 and don't they're not. That's what And I wasn't saying 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:12.840 I wasn't saying that they that they were trying to push, 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:17.800 And that's my question. Doesn't want to be here right right, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.760 and it's it's mutual parting of ways. He wanted to 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.960 go and they're like, we can live, Okay, we can 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:26.200 live if you go. But I guess the overall point, though, 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.520 is I think there were two or three coaches that 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.480 at least it looks to me like they were not situations, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:33.679 whether cowboys were trying to get rid of them as 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.920 much as it was cowboys just decided you want to 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.640 go somewhere else, will allow you to go somewhere else, 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:39.080 or their contract was up and they had the right 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.200 to go somewhere else. I just think what they did 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.160 they did just enough to keep me on the fence. 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.080 Like I'm I'm very intrigued and and excited by the 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.920 hiring of Chris Richard, who was a defensive coordinator and 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:54.680 absolutely coached a lot of great players there. You would 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:57.800 imagine he's going to bring some new ideas and man, 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:00.280 I mean, all right, I'm just I'm not gonna go there. 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:02.760 But you know, we'll see hampering Derek, what if we 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.480 learned about it. We'll see we'll see. I'm intrigued to 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.920 know and see if we really see some changes, because 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.120 I think we'll find out exactly where the problem is 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.200 coming from. But then again, they could go to the 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.640 whole thing. Well, it takes some time to get adapted 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:19.840 to this new coaching staff and everything. That's I guess 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.559 that's where I was going to go is I'm intrigued 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.960 by a couple of those things. You know, Paul Alexander 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.920 coming from from since he's coached some really good offensive 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.320 linemen up there. I mean, they had you know, Kevin 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.280 Kevin Zeitler is currently the highest paid guard in football 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.040 coming from Cincinnati. Zack Martin's probably going to top that. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:41.120 But um, but then, you know, as bitterly disappointing as 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.400 last season was, they were just like, well, we're gonna 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:45.880 keep a lot of these guys that were a part 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.319 of that and just give them bigger job. I mean, 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.600 you know, and I'm not saying anything. I think a 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.040 lot of fans agree with that, and I think it's 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.400 a fair criticism, which if they had done nothing but that, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.880 then I would be alarmed. But they did just enough 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:02.080 bringing in new faces where I'm like, all right, let's 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.400 let's see how it goes, see how this goes, but 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.600 we'll see. I mean, that's that's pretty much where I 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:09.760 sit with it, which, like I said, there's there's two 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.240 or three hires that really intrigued me, and then there's 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:15.840 a couple where I'm like, Okay, it's not fine whatever. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.240 All right, let's move on. Let's talk a little bit 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.680 about Dez Bryant. This week. There have been a couple 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.720 of different statements that have been made in the media 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.559 that that kind of get that conversation rolling. The one 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.600 I thought that was most interesting and that will kind 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.480 of center our conversation around, was one that Michael Irvin 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:35.880 form a wide receiver of the Cowboys Hall of Famer 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:39.240 and Ring of Honor guy, one of the more decorated players, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:41.760 definitely wide receivers in history of the Cowboys. And here 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:44.320 was this quote about Dez Bryant. You don't find number 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.400 one receivers hanging off trees like leaves. So what are 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:50.840 you going to do? Let Dez go? Who you got 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:53.640 to replace him? You don't find them this easily. And 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.560 the Cowboys would be stupid, stupid to let this boy go. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.000 Right now, Dave that I saw the reason why I 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.520 thought that I wanted to bring this up on the 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:05.400 show is because I then saw you tweet after this 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:08.280 tweet that it sums up your feelings and not to 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:09.920 put words in your mouth. So I'll let you kind 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.839 of talk about it. Tell me what you like about 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:16.160 this statement and how it kind of kind of wraps 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.640 up your thoughts on Dez Bryan what the Cowboys should 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.320 do with him. Well, I think I've said it a 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.120 number of times on a variety of different platforms that look, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.360 I know, he had a bad year. He had a 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.160 year that is not you can't justify his salary based 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.760 on that. All that good. I know all that. I'm 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:35.160 not trying to convince you that Dez was actually good 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:39.160 last year, But I do think in the grand scheme 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:43.359 of things, he is better than anything you could realistically 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.959 hope to find for this coming year. And I think 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:49.160 trying to get rid of him gives you a problem 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.240 that you don't currently have. Like I mean, you look 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.160 at the landscape of this team and you say, we 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.959 need a left guard, we need better depth to tackle, 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:59.760 we need to figure out what's going on with our 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.000 line backers. Could always use pass rush help, could you 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:06.400 stand to improve the safeties. You have a number one 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.400 wide receiver right now, I'm not I know he was 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.679 disappointing last year, but you have a guy who can 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.560 shoulder that workload, and taking him off of this team 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.240 makes your wide receivers as as disappointing as he was. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.960 I think it makes your wide receiver corps immeasurably worse, 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.880 and it gives you a hell of a job of 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.640 replacing him right now. Maybe I mean in the long run, 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.480 sure you can do that, but I'm talking about in 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.160 twenty eighteen. I think your wide receiver corps is noticeably 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.560 worse if he's not part of it. Nick, you agreed, disagree. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.599 I just think it's it's on the table. This is 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:43.360 late January and I'm still looking at all options. I'm 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.280 gonna ask him to take a pay cut, because if 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:50.360 he wasn't making not a lot at all and had 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.320 a blow up season, he'd be asking for a raise. 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.920 So he is making a lot of Money's the third 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:00.240 highest paid receiver in the league. He had a year 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.720 that was in the twenty five pretty much drank twenty 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.800 fifth across the board in all three major categories. So 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.120 I would ask him to take a pay cut. Actually, 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:10.400 he hasn't really lived up to the contract for the 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:15.400 last two seasons now, so but I don't I don't 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:17.320 know if you'll I don't. I mean, I don't know 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:18.800 if he'll he'll get that. I mean, I don't know 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.880 if he'll he'll agree with that. But I'm just looking 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.560 at all options. I want to see, maybe, you know, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.720 can you draft someone, Maybe can you do free agent, 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.200 Maybe something's better. I mean, I don't understand what you're 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:29.920 saying about if he's not on the team. I mean, 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:35.160 it's probably worse unless you throw that money into another player, 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.240 you know, from another team. I got a couple of 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.560 things that you tipped me off that we were gonna 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:42.800 be talking about this like I brought the thunder today, 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.280 Like I'm ready to talk about this, sure one well 0:14:45.320 --> 0:14:47.800 before before, but real quick, before you get to that, though, 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.320 I want to let Amber kind of sound off on 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.240 whether she agrees overall with that statement or not. Well, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.480 I mean, I do agree that you can't just get 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.840 rid of him when you don't have anybody else lined up. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.160 But the thing is, here's where my problem comes from 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.920 from the statement that Michael Irvin made the saying you 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:07.920 guys need to kind of back off on this and 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:10.760 less wait till next year, reload again and give it 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.320 another shot. Well you can't say that, and that really 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.320 bothered me because you wait a whole year to play 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.280 sixteen games with the hope of a few more than that. 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:24.320 But again, it's not a game that you a season 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:27.600 that starts every four months or so. You wait so 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.880 long to play for this little amount of games, and 0:15:30.920 --> 0:15:33.320 then it's not that easy to like, oh yeah, let's 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.280 just give it another shot. No, you guys need to 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.120 figure out. But the complicated part, it just goes again 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:41.440 with the whole thing that you can't bring someone else. 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.280 And then even if you drafted a guy, you would 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.920 want a veteran here and someone that has that kind 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:50.360 of experience and knows the team. But I just more 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.760 of the fact that I do I agree with him 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.600 probably needing to be here another year is just what 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.840 bothered me. Was that second statement that Michael Irving gave, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.920 well you can back off of this, Well that, I mean, 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:06.400 that's the beauty of football. Though, like we spend so 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.920 much time, we spend eighty five percent of the time 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:11.120 talking about it and fifteen percent of the time actually 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.560 watching it, there's sixteen games, less than fifteen percent. It 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.640 gives you, it forces you into tough situations like that, 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.680 And I mean, is that not what's happening with the 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.520 coaching staff right now. I mean you're like, hey, it 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.640 was a bad year, We're gonna reload, We're gonna try 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:28.640 this again. If next year is bitterly disappointing, you think 0:16:28.680 --> 0:16:30.720 the changes will be as minute as they were this 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.040 year in the grands, Probably not. You're probably making wholesale 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.720 changes if you know, if they don't make the playoffs 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.160 or if they have a losing record next year. I 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:41.200 don't think that's a stretch to say. And so I 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.320 look at it similarly with Dez. I mean, you chalk 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.240 it up to you chalk it up to a crap year. 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:48.640 I'll cross the board and you try to reload. Okay, 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.360 I see that, And so I'm basically saying I see 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.080 Michael Irvin's logic and saying I don't like Michael Irvin's 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:58.200 first line. Number one receivers don't grow on tree. Okay, 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:01.960 there's thirty two number one receivers obviously, So yeah, I mean, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.440 somebody's got to be the number one receiver. But we're 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.399 talking about the third highest paid receiver in the league, 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.359 and and and it's not He's not producing anywhere close 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.160 to that. That's the issue. And you know, I've never 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.120 heard the term Dez friendly. I've heard Romo friendly, I've 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.960 heard Dak friendly. Let's make these this offense friendly to 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.639 help this quarterback. I don't know if Dez is Dak friendly, 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.600 and I'm not sure that he is, and I'm not 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:31.919 sure that it's best for for Dez to be with DA. 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.119 But they're clearly saying we want things to be Dak friendly. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.800 They're gonna center this thing around Dak. This is and 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:40.480 this is something I meant to bring up your last statement, 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.520 And it's something that's been bothering me for a week 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.080 since Jerry and Stephen brought this up at the Senior Bowl. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.400 Am I am? I crazy? Like I just feel like 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:53.159 the world is just choosing to lump Dez's twenty sixteen 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.639 season in as like this bitter disappointment. He was good 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.560 in twenty sixteen. He did not put up numbers, but 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.000 fitting up his salary. But he is not playing in 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.560 an offense that puts him toward that he knew going in. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.800 This is a run heavy team with a rookie quarterback, 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.159 and he went out. I think he missed three games. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.400 What he caught like fifty balls for eight hundred yards 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:14.960 and eight touchdowns. He made clutch plays down the stretch 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:18.640 in the second half, long touchdown against Pittsburgh, was one 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.480 of the only guys who delivered on offense against Minnesota, 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.520 put up something like six or seven hundred yard games 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:26.439 and went off in the playoffs. I mean, he had 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.000 one hundred and thirty yards and a touchdown against Green 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.679 Bay and that loss. He played well. His numbers do 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.760 not show that because he's playing with a rookie quarterback. 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:39.960 But to lump twenty sixteen in as well, you know why, 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.000 you know why that's happened. The reason why that happened 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:44.560 is because it's sandwiched between two years that weren't for sure. 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.119 And so that's why when you look at and when 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.320 you compare those three years to the three years previous 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.560 to that, there is a stark contrast. And I think 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.320 that's why people are starting to say, well, maybe you're 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.720 getting the downside of Dez Bryan in the last three years, 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.919