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Speaker 2: A lot is made of the NBA ratings, and I
Speaker 2: have touched on this. Baseball, hockey and the NBA are
Speaker 2: increasingly international, and I don't think that necessarily helps your
Speaker 2: domestic ratings, but I do think the NBA is really dynamic.
Speaker 2: I've said before the sports that I truly love NFL,
Speaker 2: college football, NBA, especially the playoffs, World Cup and a
Speaker 2: great UFC fight. That's my five and sports gambling. But
Speaker 2: I thought one of the things that's been interesting about
Speaker 2: the NBA that I really appreciate, and it doesn't benefit
Speaker 2: the young teams, but it benefits the tough teams, is
Speaker 2: that the NBA has decided to do this and this
Speaker 2: has always been an NFL strength, the ability on the
Speaker 2: fly to change rules baseball really struggles with its traditionalists
Speaker 2: and its lore and its history. But the NFL has always,
Speaker 2: even though it's the number one sport by a long
Speaker 2: shot in America, always views itself as an underdog and
Speaker 2: it's not called America's pastime baseball is. So the NFL's
Speaker 2: always willing views itself as a TV show, always willing
Speaker 2: to evolve. A few years ago in that Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: Nick Foles Brady, the league literally changed its cash rule
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl and a couple juggled catches that
Speaker 2: in my opinion, were catches were granted its touchdowns and
Speaker 2: catches that weren't during the regular season or the playoffs
Speaker 2: before the Super Bowl. So I really do appreciate the NBA.
Speaker 2: There was a big story this year in the NBA
Speaker 2: for diehards. I'm not a die hard, but I watch
Speaker 2: a lot of NBA after the deadline, trade deadline, I'm
Speaker 2: into it almost every night or every other night, watching
Speaker 2: at least a half of a game. And there's been
Speaker 2: this talk about that they started officiating the sport differently,
Speaker 2: and I really appreciated this, and I've noticed it in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. One of the reasons regular seasons are struggling
Speaker 2: in all major sports outside of football is because other
Speaker 2: sports lack urgency. The iPhone is distracting all of us.
Speaker 2: But the NBA decided to call fewer fouls, and I
Speaker 2: think it's really helped the game. I think these playoff games,
Speaker 2: there's fewer whistles, there's fewer free throws. I really appreciate this.
Speaker 2: You know, during that Nicks Sixers scrum on the floor
Speaker 2: the other night, and I picked the Sixers to win this,
Speaker 2: so you know, I'm looking for Philadelphia to come out
Speaker 2: of this malaise and beat the Knicks. I think they
Speaker 2: have more good players. But I appreciated the NBA letting
Speaker 2: the play go when the ball's on the floor, give
Speaker 2: me a break. That's that is just hustle. A ball
Speaker 2: hits the floor, players hit the floor. I'm not calling
Speaker 2: fouls unless it's egregious. I love the NBA not calling
Speaker 2: a foul. Effort wins. The Knicks had more effort. What
Speaker 2: I didn't like is the NBA coming out where the
Speaker 2: next day they come out and say that, well, there
Speaker 2: was two fouls that weren't called and they should have
Speaker 2: called a timeout. What value does that have? Embarrassing your
Speaker 2: officials the game is over. It extends the reddit board
Speaker 2: crowd who thinks the league is rigged and there's a conspiracy.
Speaker 2: We know the league isn't rigged because major markets like Detroit, Atlanta, DC,
Speaker 2: previously before the last couple of years, New York. But
Speaker 2: in the toilet forever, the league is not rooting for
Speaker 2: Wenby to go to San Antonio, Zion to New Orleans,
Speaker 2: John Morant to Memphis, and to have Oklahoma City in
Speaker 2: Minnesota and Denver running the West, steph Out and Lebron
Speaker 2: about to be out. That's not what the NBA is
Speaker 2: hoping for. But I do appreciate when a league on
Speaker 2: the fly, even in season, has an interpretation of this
Speaker 2: is hurting the quality of product for the fans. And
Speaker 2: what the NBA has done, they're speeding the game up,
Speaker 2: fewer whistles. College football has made multiple changes last several years.
Speaker 2: Speed the clock up. It is my number one complaint. Baseball,
Speaker 2: by the way, pitch clock first year attendance up eight percent,
Speaker 2: ratings up eleven. People are telling you we love the games.
Speaker 2: We don't have all day. So a lot of people
Speaker 2: criticize the NBA. I thought it was really smart by
Speaker 2: Adam Silver people were they made it sound like it
Speaker 2: happened in a smoke filled room. He just said, fewer whistles,
Speaker 2: let them play. And I think the NBA playoff to
Speaker 2: this point have been really good, really intense, and really physical.
Speaker 2: Yukon won a national championship. They were the most physical
Speaker 2: college basketball team I saw. And Minnesota is pushing around
Speaker 2: the suns. It works, it matters, and it makes for
Speaker 2: a better product. I love sports, but I have kids.
Speaker 2: You have kids, you have work. I don't have all day.
Speaker 2: Keep them going, speed them up. These are TV shows.
Speaker 2: It's entertainment. That's why Hollywood doesn't have three hour movies, right,
Speaker 2: there's like two hours fifteen minutes is to cut off
Speaker 2: for most movies unless they're gonna be all time epics
Speaker 2: like Oppenheimer, Michael Pennix Junior going to Atlanta at eight. Oh,
Speaker 2: that's interesting. Well, what they're saying is Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 2: gonna be a He's gonna be a two year player,
Speaker 2: a one year player. By the way, how lucky is Pennix?
Speaker 2: That old line Drake London Kyle Pitt's two backs. How
Speaker 2: lucky is Michael Pennix?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 4: That that is that's shocking. I think just because a
Speaker 4: lot of people I knew scouts during the season that
Speaker 4: had Pennix as a second rounder. I thought that was crazy.
Speaker 4: But there was a lot of talk a couple months
Speaker 4: ago that he was not a top fifteen pick. And
Speaker 4: then to go to Atlanta after they just spend all
Speaker 4: that money on Cousins, They're also getting a guy coming
Speaker 4: off a tour on Achilles right who's not a great athlete.
Speaker 4: So I completely understand what they're doing. Maybe there's doubling,
Speaker 4: I mean they're not. Maybe they are doubling down on
Speaker 4: the quarterback position. They feel good about their defense, they
Speaker 4: have a I mean they've drafted seventy five offensive skill
Speaker 4: guys these last couple of years. Their offensive line's good.
Speaker 2: Hard for me at Hase, Raheem Morris was an NFL coach,
Speaker 2: couldn't get the quarterback right, got fired, goes to the Rams,
Speaker 2: becomes incredibly great friends with Sean McVay, and Sean McVay
Speaker 2: made it very clear, dude, we had goff and moved off.
Speaker 2: So if Raheem Morris, who's a really smart guy, learned something,
Speaker 2: you know, as mcvay's best friend, you can't be good
Speaker 2: enough or deep enough at quarterback. We had goff and
Speaker 2: we moved off. And so I think this is Raheem
Speaker 2: Morris saying, listen, this is what I love about this move.
Speaker 2: A lot of these defensive coaches can struggle with how
Speaker 2: urgent is quarterback. This is like when Washington had a
Speaker 2: chance to go out and get people and Ron Rivera
Speaker 2: wouldn't make the move. Raheem's like, listen, I'm not only
Speaker 2: gonna get Kirk Cousins with this stacked offense, I'm getting
Speaker 2: his backup.
Speaker 5: So I gotta be honest.
Speaker 2: I like the move.
Speaker 4: Well, think about this. Rah he Morris had a front
Speaker 4: row seat as the coordinator two years ago when Stafford
Speaker 4: went down and they were completely fucked, right, I mean
Speaker 4: they were. It derailed their season. So you're signing a
Speaker 4: guy to a lot of money who's a really good
Speaker 4: player when he was healthy, but he's coming off of
Speaker 4: torn achilles. Yeah, and think about one of their guys
Speaker 4: in Green Bay just benefited a lot from having a
Speaker 4: young quarterback on the roster. When the Rogers things got weird,
Speaker 4: they didn't skip a beat and now they're a team
Speaker 4: that everyone's gonna love. So this is the old ron
Speaker 4: Wolf thing, and Andy followed it. I mean, all these
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan guys, just draft these quarterbacks. You could argue,
Speaker 4: you know, if you're all in on Kirk Cousins this
Speaker 4: year trying to win, take a defensive player, especially a
Speaker 4: defensive lineman. Their sack production has been terrible, so why
Speaker 4: a lot of people thought they would take an edge
Speaker 4: rusher or the Texas defensive tackle. But if you're gonna
Speaker 4: go off the beaten path at this position, this guy's
Speaker 4: good Colin. I mean, listen, he got hurt a lot,
Speaker 4: but he has not been hurt the last two years.
Speaker 4: To me, I love this guy. The one concerning thing
Speaker 4: is when he did play Michigan, who turned out was
Speaker 4: an NFL team, they were rattling him and he was
Speaker 4: way off. But that is a one game scenario. He
Speaker 4: has a large body of work. No one throws the
Speaker 4: better deep ball, no one, just I would say, start
Speaker 4: to finish this last two years, probably has had a
Speaker 4: better two year stretch. Jayden had a better season this year,
Speaker 4: Caleb had a better season last year, same with Drake May.
Speaker 4: But over the two year body of work, you'd have
Speaker 4: to say Pennix was.
Speaker 2: The best, right, Yeah, and I also think a lot
Speaker 2: of big game experience. I've defended him on Michigan. You know.
Speaker 2: My takeaway is a lot of NFL quarterbacks faced Alabama
Speaker 2: Nick Saban and looked awful. A lot of NFL quarterbacks
Speaker 2: can face Georgia over the last four years and not
Speaker 2: look very good. I mean CJ. Stroud couldn't beat Michigan either,
Speaker 2: so I mean they had a stacked deck, one of
Speaker 2: the most talented teams in the last decade.
Speaker 4: I listen, and I'm a Michael Pennox fan. He's one
Speaker 4: of my favorite players in this draft. I think the
Speaker 4: concerning part about it specifically, though, is right, he was
Speaker 4: sacked eleven times during the season. He had one of
Speaker 4: the best offense, so he never got touched. So he
Speaker 4: played in somewhat of a situation like a lot of
Speaker 4: the Ohio State and Alabama guys have over their career
Speaker 4: where it's a pretty unreal situation with awesome wide receivers.
Speaker 4: And he dominated, and then they started getting pressure, they
Speaker 4: started hitting him. And it's not like he's small, like
Speaker 4: I don't view him as slight, quite like Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 4: But you were at the Oregon game, up in Seattle,
Speaker 4: that Michigan game. A couple of times you're like, this, is
Speaker 4: he gonna be able to get up? That's the one.
Speaker 4: Now get a little bigger. He doesn't have to play
Speaker 4: right away. Is he immediately one of the better backup
Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the NFL?
Speaker 3: Oh, he's making eighth pick.
Speaker 4: He's making six to seven million dollars. It seems like
Speaker 4: a pretty good deal.
Speaker 2: He's the most talented backup in the NFL. Officially, you
Speaker 2: can go with that. He throws a gorgeous ball. Greg
Speaker 2: Cosell told me today brock Bauers does some things better
Speaker 2: than anybody in forty four years covering the draft on film.
Speaker 2: His ability to transition from like pre catch to post
Speaker 2: catch after the ball in his hands, he said, there's
Speaker 2: no transition. He's running full speed before and full speed after.
Speaker 2: There's just no transition.
Speaker 4: So I think he's one of the best players in
Speaker 4: the draft when you just factor in he went to
Speaker 4: Georgia in the height of their talent and dominated immediately.
Speaker 4: And it's not like he's a Southern guy. They got
Speaker 4: him out of Napa, California, which last I checked, isn't
Speaker 4: exactly producing both some brother type talents and he I'm
Speaker 4: sure he just annihilated those guys in practice every day.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Brock Bauers is the best player.
Speaker 2: I mean, holy when somebody's getting a star Denver, Okay,
Speaker 2: they reached so bone X. I just I think in
Speaker 2: that division with Harbaugh, Herbert reed, Mahomes, you gotta get
Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta take a swing here. To me,
Speaker 2: that's what it feels like. And they're all line by
Speaker 2: the way Hayton built that thing. One year it was
Speaker 2: top seven by PFF. So you don't have a need there.
Speaker 2: MEM's in Courtland Sutton. You can get a receiver later,
Speaker 2: they need an edge rusher and a quarterback for the future.
Speaker 2: I think Denver's actually, I think their roster's okay, it's
Speaker 2: not great, but it's okay.
Speaker 4: I think taking bo Nicks in the first round is
Speaker 4: pretty nuts. But the way he wants to play, let's
Speaker 4: face it. Drew Brees the last couple of years when
Speaker 4: they were successful in the late teens, like seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 4: was not bombing the ball down the field by any means.
Speaker 4: Get rid of the ball fast, get rid of the
Speaker 4: ball accurately, and Sean Payton Sneaky's kind of.
Speaker 3: Got a little old school Bill Parcel.
Speaker 4: He will run the ball once he got Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 4: So could you just function immediately, because let's look at
Speaker 4: their quarterback room right now. It's Jared Stidham and Zach
Speaker 4: Wilson and Danucci. I mean, if that's your quarterback room
Speaker 4: going into the season, I don't care if Sean Payton
Speaker 4: turns into Bill Walsh. I mean, is that a six
Speaker 4: win team at best? You'd be in major trouble. He'd
Speaker 4: be in major trouble.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. I saw him play live twice. Here's
Speaker 2: what I liked about him. He's more athletic than you think.
Speaker 5: Well, he's a good athlete, really good athlete.
Speaker 2: Little Alex Smith, like, I mean, Alex gets on the
Speaker 2: run and you're like, oh, Alex can out run linebackers.
Speaker 5: Alex is fast, Bo can move.
Speaker 2: Bo's got sixty one starts the Oregon offense to some
Speaker 2: degree is Drew Brees's. I'm going to design a play
Speaker 2: with two options, throw it to it. So remember Bo
Speaker 2: doesn't throw a good deep ball. Breeze. Last five years,
Speaker 2: he didn't throw a great deep ball. So my take
Speaker 2: is Sean talks himself into listen, I one with Breeze,
Speaker 2: who was the best quarterback in the league with no
Speaker 2: deep ball the last four years. Let's be honest, Patrick
Speaker 2: Mahomes no longer throws a deep ball. The deep ball's
Speaker 2: great if you have Tyreek Hill and a handful of receivers.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of teams are throwing the deep ball consistently.
Speaker 5: If you have a J.
Speaker 2: Brown, it's great. Most teams don't have aj Brown. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of good teams in this league, John that
Speaker 2: don't have an over the top star receiver.
Speaker 4: Throw the ball deep ever.
Speaker 5: Look in the movie Ay Yuke.
Speaker 2: So my take on bon Nix's he's a young Breeze
Speaker 2: and you can say, well, that's ridiculous, but Price the
Speaker 2: guy's went to the SEC. The PAC twelve was the
Speaker 2: best it's been in twenty years. He was very good.
Speaker 2: He was he was awesome.
Speaker 4: He was awesome. I feel like I'm talking out both
Speaker 4: sides of my mouth because we always talk about the
Speaker 4: importance of the wiring and the character and all that
Speaker 4: stuff about bon Nicks. People love what he kind of
Speaker 4: became in Oregon. The way they talk about him. I
Speaker 4: also think you gotta be careful when you're evaluating the
Speaker 4: player of falling in love with that, and clearly Sean
Speaker 4: puts a premium on it. I mean he spent fifteen
Speaker 4: years around one of the highest character guys in like
Speaker 4: League history and Drew Brees. And that's where again you
Speaker 4: get back to the Kenny Picketts, those type players, the
Speaker 4: mac Jones, where you fall in love with the character
Speaker 4: and the physical attributes. Is this is also as simple
Speaker 4: as they were desperate. I mean, like we just talked
Speaker 4: about before they made the pit what were they gonna
Speaker 4: do roll into the season with Deanucci and Zach Wilson.
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't have a choice.
Speaker 2: All right, do we want to bring Danny Parkins into
Speaker 2: Talk Bears. Let's bring Danny in from Chicago. Danny is
Speaker 2: the most talented young broadcaster I think of the country
Speaker 2: doing radio. Buddy and Nick Wright introduced me years ago.
Speaker 2: Like Nick Wright has a borderline gambling problem. That's why
Speaker 2: I love him. I say that as borderline is that
Speaker 2: the problem is with the casinos and the books, because
Speaker 2: he actually wins. He comes from a math family. So Danny,
Speaker 2: first of all, I was surprised. I thought I thought
Speaker 2: they would go defense Danny with the pick because the
Speaker 2: defensive coach coaches have can pound the table and kind
Speaker 2: of get Usually you know, they make two to three
Speaker 2: times what a coach does. But Ryan Poles has so
Speaker 2: much steam now, so much momentum. Eber Flus doesn't. So
Speaker 2: my take by getting Romadunze, that's a Ryan Poles call.
Speaker 5: That's my take years one percent. When Ryan Poles was here,
Speaker 5: when he got hired, people were asking him about team
Speaker 5: building philosophy, and he said, remember where I came from,
Speaker 5: and that's Kansas City. Because he got criticism for his
Speaker 5: first draft where he didn't have a first round pick,
Speaker 5: taking Kyler Gordon and Jakwan Brisker with his two second
Speaker 5: round picks. And I criticized him for not taking a
Speaker 5: receiver in George Pickens with the Jaquan Brisker pick, and
Speaker 5: he said, remember where I came from, which he was
Speaker 5: basically saying, I didn't think anyone there was the right
Speaker 5: guy to take, but I'm not going to not support
Speaker 5: the quarterback. He traded for Claypool. It didn't work. He
Speaker 5: trades the number one pick he wants Dj Moore attached
Speaker 5: to it. It does work. He trades a fourth round
Speaker 5: pick for Keenan Allen. He's one of the most consistent
Speaker 5: players in the NFL. And then the ninth pick overall
Speaker 5: comes up and he makes what I thought was the
Speaker 5: obvious pick if he was on the board, and he
Speaker 5: gives Joe Burrow his Jamar Chase. You know, these guys
Speaker 5: have a rookie contract timeline that are completely aligned. I
Speaker 5: know Burrow and Chase wereing back to back drafts, but
Speaker 5: the idea is the same, to get Caleb Williams a
Speaker 5: weapon that he can grow and develop with. I'm ecstatic.
Speaker 5: This is modern offensive football finally coming to Chicago for
Speaker 5: the first time in my lifetime.
Speaker 3: Wity nuts.
Speaker 2: You know, John and I were talking about this. When
Speaker 2: is the last rookie quarterback that got this?
Speaker 3: This is insane.
Speaker 6: Gerald Everett's a throw in. He was the Chargers' best
Speaker 6: tight end, highly productive. Well, we've never seen it for
Speaker 6: a number one overall pick quarterback. We've definitely never seen
Speaker 6: it for that. Justin Herbert had a very good situation
Speaker 6: in LA with Keenan Allen and Mike Williams, and you
Speaker 6: know he was supported with Austin Eckler and Corey Linsley.
Speaker 6: At center and Rashaun Slater at tackle, and he set
Speaker 6: the rookie record for passing touchdowns with thirty one. So
Speaker 6: we have never seen it for a number one overall
Speaker 6: pick to have this type of nest to come into
Speaker 6: and develop. And if I may for a second, because Colin,
Speaker 6: you and I talked about this on the show about
Speaker 6: like how Chicago's a place where they've never had offensive
Speaker 6: success and quarterback and goes to die and all of
Speaker 6: that stuff, and that cynicism that Bears fans is well earned.
Speaker 6: The amount of luck that led to this moment is
Speaker 6: just staggering. Week eighteen, two years ago, the Bears needed
Speaker 6: the Texans to beat the Colts, and Davis Mills led
Speaker 6: a fourteen play drive where he converted a fourth and
Speaker 6: ten and a fourth and twenty on the same drive
Speaker 6: and then a two point conversion to give them the
Speaker 6: number one pick in the Bryce Young Draft. They then
Speaker 6: trade the number one pick to the Panthers. The Panthers
Speaker 6: then have to be so bad and they lost four
Speaker 6: of those games by only three points to give them
Speaker 6: the number one pick to be in this position to
Speaker 6: get Caleb Williams. So the stars are fine.
Speaker 5: We aligning in Chicago to be set up at quarterback
Speaker 5: and have a good offense and potentially a great offense
Speaker 5: for literally the first time in my lifetime with any consistency.
Speaker 2: So Minnesota trades up twenty three to seventeen. Jacksonville slides back,
Speaker 2: Minnesota selects Dallas Turner. So ten minutes ago, John and
Speaker 2: I sort of guessed we predicted we would go on
Speaker 2: a defensive run here. So since Latto Law two goes
Speaker 2: to Indy Byron Murphy, the small but explosive defensive tackle
Speaker 2: a Longhorn goes to Seattle, that's a real need. Minnesota
Speaker 2: smartly moves up. So you know, Minnesota moved up just
Speaker 2: a little to get JJ McCarthy. Boy, this division's got
Speaker 2: This division's got good personnel. This division is freaking ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you could do a Pro Bowl offensive Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl with the NFC North that can beat the league.
Speaker 2: I seriously believe that.
Speaker 4: I well, I mean, you'd have Danny, That's yeah. That's
Speaker 4: my with the Bears, I mean, we're all in love.
Speaker 4: I mean, how could you not be what they've done.
Speaker 4: It's not the Packers. We know if that quarterback he's playing,
Speaker 4: they're gonna be good. You'd assume their defense can't be
Speaker 4: as shitty as it's been. And the Lions honestly should
Speaker 4: have beat the forty nine Ers should have been the
Speaker 4: super Bowl. So it's you could have an excellent, improved
Speaker 4: team and still be the third best team in that division.
Speaker 5: Very I mean it could it could be a ten
Speaker 5: win team gets third place in this division. It could be.
Speaker 5: It could be three playoff teams that come out of
Speaker 5: the North.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I I think Minnesota and Chicago will battle for
Speaker 2: a wildcard spot. I think Detroit still as the best roster.
Speaker 2: I think Green Bays is young, not as good as Detroit's,
Speaker 2: but it's it's pretty damn interesting offensively. I the Packers
Speaker 2: defense never delivers. I couldn't say the last year I
Speaker 2: thought great defense.
Speaker 5: It just doesn't.
Speaker 2: The Aaron Rodgers year, it was pretty good. But they
Speaker 2: Green Bay does offense better than anybody. They can't get
Speaker 2: the defense right, even though they draft it in the
Speaker 2: first round historically almost every year. So Dallas turn.
Speaker 5: That was their night.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what I wonder with Poles, and I
Speaker 4: wonder if Poles may say this tonight in his press conference,
Speaker 4: because you hit on the Claypool situation. I mean, they
Speaker 4: missed badly on character, and like you said, he came
Speaker 4: from around Ballard and Andy. I mean, they value character
Speaker 4: pretty high with their high end guys. I wonder if
Speaker 4: they would have taken Rome over neighbors, like Rome was
Speaker 4: the second wide receiver on their board. It wouldn't shock
Speaker 4: me with that at all because his character, from what
Speaker 4: I was told is elite.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brock heword told me that he's one of the
Speaker 5: two favorite players that he's seen at Washington and being
Speaker 5: about around the program in about twenty years. And you
Speaker 5: know what's crazy too, They they kind of telegraphed it,
Speaker 5: not the Bears, but Caleb, Like it came out the
Speaker 5: other day that Tom Pellisero had it that Rome with
Speaker 5: Dunsa was working out with DJ Moore Keenan Allen with
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams throwing them the ball. Caleb and Rome were
Speaker 5: on the same flight from LA to Detroit for the draft.
Speaker 5: Caleb put on Instagram a couple hours before the draft,
Speaker 5: how much you liked Roma Dunsay's outfit. So I think
Speaker 5: it might. I think it might come out because I
Speaker 5: mean they've been doing install with Caleb Williams I mean,
Speaker 5: this has been locked up for eight weeks, that Caleb's
Speaker 5: going to be a Bear. It would have shocked me
Speaker 5: at all if Ryan Poles admits that he asked Caleb
Speaker 5: Williams for input on who he wanted them to take
Speaker 5: at number nine and so, yeah, the character part for Poles, sure,
Speaker 5: but it would not surprise me at all if Caleb
Speaker 5: Williams had at least a say in Roma Dunsay being
Speaker 5: a Bear I saw.
Speaker 2: I've been told this by multiple scouts and gms in
Speaker 2: the league that this is the most talented top of
Speaker 2: a draft in years. Brock Bowers goes thirteen, the best
Speaker 2: run blocking offensive tackling years goes fourteen to the Saints.
Speaker 2: Byron Murphy goes sixteen. Dallas Turner, who was considered a
Speaker 2: top eight pick, go seventeen guys for years, Danny, I've
Speaker 2: always been told by scouts a good draft have seventeen
Speaker 2: to eighteen first round players and then it's death Valley.
Speaker 2: I was told this year it was nineteen to twenty.
Speaker 2: I'm amazed. My guess is Cincinnati's next guys. I think
Speaker 2: they go wide receiver. You got a defense? Oh no,
Speaker 2: they went and got a Marius Mims. This is the
Speaker 2: first pick. I have real questions with not a ton
Speaker 2: of starts. If listen, somebody's gonna bust in the first
Speaker 2: eighteen picks. This one scares me.
Speaker 5: I mean, most of the guys will bust. Multiple guys
Speaker 5: will bust in the first eighteen picks. I mean, don't
Speaker 5: you think this is maybe just Joe Burrow needs to
Speaker 5: be healthy in order for us to be good Like
Speaker 5: with the Bengals.
Speaker 4: Love the high weight speed guys too. You know, this
Speaker 4: guy's got eight starts or whatever, a little bit of
Speaker 4: a fly you know, I wouldn't say a flyer because
Speaker 4: it comes from Georgia. But pretty risky, but that's kind
Speaker 4: of their history. They take some risks.
Speaker 5: We yeah, but when Burrow is healthy, they win, for sure,
Speaker 5: win big. So so I mean, I know everybody apparently
Speaker 5: want you know, Hendrickson wants to be traded and uh
Speaker 5: t Higgins wants to be traded, and guys are getting
Speaker 5: out of there because you can't pay everybody. But I'll
Speaker 5: roll the dice with a healthy Joe Burrow and a
Speaker 5: healthy Jamar Chase. And so if this pick helps keep
Speaker 5: them upright, that's uh, that's not the worst thing in
Speaker 5: the world. The runout offensive players was just remarkable, Like
Speaker 5: we knew, we knew it was gonna be the top seven.
Speaker 5: We're like, oh, maybe it'll be the top nine. But
Speaker 5: what it was the top top fourteen, top right, top
Speaker 5: fourteen picks.
Speaker 4: If wonder if is going to start being a trend,
Speaker 4: you know, with the way college football is much more offensive.
Speaker 4: I mean, Ohio State, a historic program, is an offensive program.
Speaker 4: Now Alabama now would do bor gonna beat lean more offense.
Speaker 4: George is probably the last of a dying breed. Even
Speaker 4: Brian Kelly look at him, Jaden Daniels, Moleague neighbors. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just wonder if this is kind of where we're
Speaker 4: headed as a as a well sport.
Speaker 2: There's two quarterbacks Shor Sanders will go very high next year.
Speaker 2: I do think cam Ward at Miami's a fascinating player.
Speaker 2: Saw a ton of them at Washington State. He is
Speaker 2: really electric. There's a third quarterback. Is the Georgia kid
Speaker 2: is I think is he eligible? He's I don't I
Speaker 2: worry about Georgia. They literally play with like it's twenty
Speaker 2: eight NFL guys. You know, It's like, I just don't
Speaker 2: It's like JJ McCarthy, Jesus, did you ever trail? Did
Speaker 2: you ever not have a third and two? I mean
Speaker 2: when was third and fourteen? I mean that's like the league.
Speaker 5: I mean, JJ McCarthy went a half without being asked
Speaker 5: to throw a football.
Speaker 4: He was Jimmy Garoppolo of college football.
Speaker 2: There's a stat that he only threw the ball, and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm this is top of the head, like he
Speaker 2: only threw the ball on third down like thirty four times,
Speaker 2: the whole thing or something. I looked at the stat
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh no, that's not the NFL. That's
Speaker 2: that's like well, I mean Alabama quarterbacks, Georgia quarterbacks historically,
Speaker 2: and that Michigan team when you get eighteen pro players,
Speaker 2: Like that's why I've defended Michael Pennix Danny with Michigan.
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know how many good quarterbacks look
Speaker 2: bad during that fifteen year Alabama Nick Saban defensive run
Speaker 2: like Pennicks was great. I watched him twice against Oregon
Speaker 2: like he was exceptional. Michigan beat CJ. Stroud, So like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you Michigan, you were overwhelmed.
Speaker 5: I'm okay with that the Pennix thing. I'm sure you
Speaker 5: guys talked about it a ton. It's obviously the biggest
Speaker 5: surprise pick of the draft so far. Brian Baldinger said
Speaker 5: to me on the show, he was like, I hear
Speaker 5: Atlanta's taken a QB and that they love Pennix. This
Speaker 5: was like ten days ago, and I thought it was
Speaker 5: the dumbest thing I had ever heard. Because they gave
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins one hundred million. The last three first round
Speaker 5: picks are skill position guys. The defense is pretty good,
Speaker 5: but CO try to win a division and get a
Speaker 5: piece for right now. But I wonder if they're saying
Speaker 5: we are good, Cousins is gonna make us better and
Speaker 5: so we're not going to be picking in the top
Speaker 5: ten for the next couple of years. So Michael Pennix
Speaker 5: will learn from Kirk Cousins and will have an elite
Speaker 5: quarterback prospect learn from Cousins, and then they'll never have
Speaker 5: to pick in the top ten again for the next decade.
Speaker 2: Denny. Basically, they're saying, we're gonna do a Green Bay Packer.
Speaker 2: We're just gonna this is who.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Because Penex I thought was ready to play, they
Speaker 5: one because of his age. But they're gonna make him
Speaker 5: sit for two years at least.
Speaker 2: My guess is he sits for a year also.
Speaker 5: Six So well, one hundred million guaranteed, your cousin.
Speaker 2: But I know, but they're not paying anybody offensively they've
Speaker 2: I mean, if that's why they went in free agency
Speaker 2: and can get a Rondell More, they can go get
Speaker 2: players they don't have. I mean, Jarrett the defensive lineman's
Speaker 2: making money. They're not paying. I mean, they had so
Speaker 2: much money for Kirk, They're not paying very many people.
Speaker 4: I wonder if that owner got so scarred after watching
Speaker 4: the quarterback play these last two years and says under
Speaker 4: no circumstances, after dealing with Matt Ryan for a decade,
Speaker 4: are we ever dealing with this again? So not only
Speaker 4: was he behind it, I wonder if he kind of
Speaker 4: pushed for it, like just double down on this position.
Speaker 4: Because watching Desmond.
Speaker 5: Rittoral always have a succession plan. That's interesting, that's possible.
Speaker 5: That would be an ownership thing.
Speaker 4: And Rahee Morris I was telling Colin think two years
Speaker 4: ago had a front row seat. Stafford went down and
Speaker 4: the whole season got derailed. And now Cousins coming off
Speaker 4: an Achilles. Now it's an expensive Achilles, one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 2: But still, Danny, we said this. Raheem was a head coach,
Speaker 2: got fired, Why quarterback? He goes to LA he becomes
Speaker 2: Sean mcvay's best friend. McVeigh is in his ear saying, dude,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get another job. But let me just tell you.
Speaker 2: We upgraded off a super Bowl quarterback. You cannot be
Speaker 2: good enough or deep enough at quarterback. And I do
Speaker 2: think Raheem is one of these, you know, these defensive
Speaker 2: coaches wearing me out. But I do think Raheem I've
Speaker 2: been told. I mean, he is quick. He is also
Speaker 2: kind of a progressive. He's not one of these, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I watched Pittsburgh Steelers offense sometime. I'm like,
Speaker 2: can you guys run motion? I mean what it looks like.
Speaker 2: I'm watching the NFL network in the eighties. It's like
Speaker 2: there are these defensive coaches, Pete Carroll, I'm like, can
Speaker 2: you can you get an offensive line right? Pete McDermott.
Speaker 2: They couldn't get a run game for seven years. Raheem's
Speaker 2: not that guy. He's got a little bit I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think Demiko Ryans is the same. He's a defensive
Speaker 2: coach coming from an offensive culture, and I think it matters.
Speaker 2: I think Kyle Shanahan Dimiko comes out and says, I
Speaker 2: get the league, and I think Raheem Morris says, I
Speaker 2: get the league. I'm with McVeigh those guys. By the way,
Speaker 2: has anybody on mcvay's tree not worked yet?
Speaker 5: Right? Which is? I mean that's why I wanted the
Speaker 5: Bears to fire eber Fluse and hire someone better than
Speaker 5: Shane Waldron, although he is saying kind of he's on
Speaker 5: the tree as well, old passing game coordinator. There. Offense
Speaker 5: is the way of the league, and obviously if you
Speaker 5: hit it quarterback, it's never a bad pick. It's just
Speaker 5: a shocking allocation of resources with to draft the old
Speaker 5: quarterback with the injuries in terms of a draft prospect,
Speaker 5: when you just signed the old quarterback coming off of
Speaker 5: the big injury like this is a very unconventional thing,
Speaker 5: at least with Jordan Love. It had worked for the
Speaker 5: franchise before and they thought Rogers was done, but then
Speaker 5: Rogers shocked him and won a couple of MVPs. Kirk
Speaker 5: Cousins hasn't played a game for the Falcons and they
Speaker 5: drafted his replacement.
Speaker 2: Okay, Danny Parkins has a book, Pipeline to the Pros.
Speaker 2: It's outstanding. Also, Danny Parkins and Spiegel. It's Chicago. It's
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Speaker 5: Hollin, I'm in Detroit. It's ten seventeen. I'm in Detroit
Speaker 5: to see the Bears get Caleb Williams and Row. I
Speaker 5: left my four year old and two year old to
Speaker 5: my wife in Chicago. I'm here for the party. My man,
Speaker 5: I can call him Colin. The Bears just won the
Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven Super Bowl. Tonight, come on, Yeah, I'm texting.
Speaker 5: I'm texting Nick Wright, taunting him that there's no shame
Speaker 5: in Patrick Mahomes losing to Tom Brady and Caleb Williams
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