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Speaker 2: A lot is made of the NBA ratings, and I

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Speaker 2: I've said before the sports that I truly love NFL,

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Speaker 2: even though it's the number one sport by a long

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Speaker 2: always willing views itself as a TV show, always willing

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Speaker 2: There was a big story this year in the NBA

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Speaker 2: But the NBA decided to call fewer fouls, and I

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Speaker 2: You know, during that Nicks Sixers scrum on the floor

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Speaker 2: what the NBA has done, they're speeding the game up,

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Speaker 2: Speed the clock up. It is my number one complaint. Baseball,

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Speaker 2: Keep them going, speed them up. These are TV shows.

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Speaker 2: It's entertainment. That's why Hollywood doesn't have three hour movies, right,

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Speaker 2: like Oppenheimer, Michael Pennix Junior going to Atlanta at eight. Oh,

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Speaker 4: So I completely understand what they're doing. Maybe there's doubling,

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Speaker 2: Hard for me at Hase, Raheem Morris was an NFL coach,

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Speaker 2: wouldn't make the move. Raheem's like, listen, I'm not only

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Speaker 2: gonna get Kirk Cousins with this stacked offense, I'm getting

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Speaker 4: Well, think about this. Rah he Morris had a front

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Speaker 4: To me, I love this guy. The one concerning thing

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Speaker 2: The best, right, Yeah, and I also think a lot

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Speaker 4: He's making six to seven million dollars. It seems like

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Speaker 2: He's the most talented backup in the NFL. Officially, you

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Speaker 2: first of all, I was surprised. I thought I thought

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Speaker 5: That's my take years one percent. When Ryan Poles was here,

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Speaker 5: This is modern offensive football finally coming to Chicago for

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Speaker 2: You know, John and I were talking about this. When

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Speaker 3: This is insane.

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Speaker 5: We aligning in Chicago to be set up at quarterback

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Speaker 2: So Minnesota trades up twenty three to seventeen. Jacksonville slides back,

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Speaker 2: This division's got good personnel. This division is freaking ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you could do a Pro Bowl offensive Pro

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I I think Minnesota and Chicago will battle for

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Speaker 5: That was their night.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what I wonder with Poles, and I

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Speaker 5: this has been locked up for eight weeks, that Caleb's

431
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Speaker 5: going to be a Bear. It would have shocked me

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Speaker 5: at all if Ryan Poles admits that he asked Caleb

433
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Speaker 5: Williams for input on who he wanted them to take

434
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Speaker 5: at number nine and so, yeah, the character part for Poles, sure,

435
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Speaker 5: but it would not surprise me at all if Caleb

436
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Speaker 5: Williams had at least a say in Roma Dunsay being

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Speaker 5: a Bear I saw.

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Speaker 2: I've been told this by multiple scouts and gms in

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Speaker 2: the league that this is the most talented top of

440
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Speaker 2: a draft in years. Brock Bowers goes thirteen, the best

441
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 2: run blocking offensive tackling years goes fourteen to the Saints.

442
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Speaker 2: Byron Murphy goes sixteen. Dallas Turner, who was considered a

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Speaker 2: top eight pick, go seventeen guys for years, Danny, I've

444
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Speaker 2: always been told by scouts a good draft have seventeen

445
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: to eighteen first round players and then it's death Valley.

446
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Speaker 2: I was told this year it was nineteen to twenty.

447
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Speaker 2: I'm amazed. My guess is Cincinnati's next guys. I think

448
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: they go wide receiver. You got a defense? Oh no,

449
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 2: they went and got a Marius Mims. This is the

450
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Speaker 2: first pick. I have real questions with not a ton

451
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Speaker 2: of starts. If listen, somebody's gonna bust in the first

452
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Speaker 2: eighteen picks. This one scares me.

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Speaker 5: I mean, most of the guys will bust. Multiple guys

454
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Speaker 5: will bust in the first eighteen picks. I mean, don't

455
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Speaker 5: you think this is maybe just Joe Burrow needs to

456
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Speaker 5: be healthy in order for us to be good Like

457
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Speaker 5: with the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: Love the high weight speed guys too. You know, this

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Speaker 4: guy's got eight starts or whatever, a little bit of

460
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Speaker 4: a fly you know, I wouldn't say a flyer because

461
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Speaker 4: it comes from Georgia. But pretty risky, but that's kind

462
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Speaker 4: of their history. They take some risks.

463
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Speaker 5: We yeah, but when Burrow is healthy, they win, for sure,

464
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Speaker 5: win big. So so I mean, I know everybody apparently

465
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Speaker 5: want you know, Hendrickson wants to be traded and uh

466
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Speaker 5: t Higgins wants to be traded, and guys are getting

467
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Speaker 5: out of there because you can't pay everybody. But I'll

468
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Speaker 5: roll the dice with a healthy Joe Burrow and a

469
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Speaker 5: healthy Jamar Chase. And so if this pick helps keep

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Speaker 5: them upright, that's uh, that's not the worst thing in

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Speaker 5: the world. The runout offensive players was just remarkable, Like

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Speaker 5: we knew, we knew it was gonna be the top seven.

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Speaker 5: We're like, oh, maybe it'll be the top nine. But

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Speaker 5: what it was the top top fourteen, top right, top

475
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Speaker 5: fourteen picks.

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Speaker 4: If wonder if is going to start being a trend,

477
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Speaker 4: you know, with the way college football is much more offensive.

478
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Speaker 4: I mean, Ohio State, a historic program, is an offensive program.

479
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 4: Now Alabama now would do bor gonna beat lean more offense.

480
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 4: George is probably the last of a dying breed. Even

481
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Speaker 4: Brian Kelly look at him, Jaden Daniels, Moleague neighbors. I mean,

482
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Speaker 4: it's just wonder if this is kind of where we're

483
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Speaker 4: headed as a as a well sport.

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Speaker 2: There's two quarterbacks Shor Sanders will go very high next year.

485
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Speaker 2: I do think cam Ward at Miami's a fascinating player.

486
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Speaker 2: Saw a ton of them at Washington State. He is

487
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Speaker 2: really electric. There's a third quarterback. Is the Georgia kid

488
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Speaker 2: is I think is he eligible? He's I don't I

489
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Speaker 2: worry about Georgia. They literally play with like it's twenty

490
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Speaker 2: eight NFL guys. You know, It's like, I just don't

491
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Speaker 2: It's like JJ McCarthy, Jesus, did you ever trail? Did

492
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Speaker 2: you ever not have a third and two? I mean

493
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Speaker 2: when was third and fourteen? I mean that's like the league.

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Speaker 5: I mean, JJ McCarthy went a half without being asked

495
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Speaker 5: to throw a football.

496
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Speaker 4: He was Jimmy Garoppolo of college football.

497
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Speaker 2: There's a stat that he only threw the ball, and

498
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Speaker 2: I'm I'm this is top of the head, like he

499
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 2: only threw the ball on third down like thirty four times,

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Speaker 2: the whole thing or something. I looked at the stat

501
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh no, that's not the NFL. That's

502
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Speaker 2: that's like well, I mean Alabama quarterbacks, Georgia quarterbacks historically,

503
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Speaker 2: and that Michigan team when you get eighteen pro players,

504
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Speaker 2: Like that's why I've defended Michael Pennix Danny with Michigan.

505
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Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know how many good quarterbacks look

506
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Speaker 2: bad during that fifteen year Alabama Nick Saban defensive run

507
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: like Pennicks was great. I watched him twice against Oregon

508
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: like he was exceptional. Michigan beat CJ. Stroud, So like,

509
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give you Michigan, you were overwhelmed.

510
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Speaker 5: I'm okay with that the Pennix thing. I'm sure you

511
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Speaker 5: guys talked about it a ton. It's obviously the biggest

512
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Speaker 5: surprise pick of the draft so far. Brian Baldinger said

513
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Speaker 5: to me on the show, he was like, I hear

514
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 5: Atlanta's taken a QB and that they love Pennix. This

515
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 5: was like ten days ago, and I thought it was

516
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Speaker 5: the dumbest thing I had ever heard. Because they gave

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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins one hundred million. The last three first round

518
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Speaker 5: picks are skill position guys. The defense is pretty good,

519
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Speaker 5: but CO try to win a division and get a

520
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 5: piece for right now. But I wonder if they're saying

521
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Speaker 5: we are good, Cousins is gonna make us better and

522
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Speaker 5: so we're not going to be picking in the top

523
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Speaker 5: ten for the next couple of years. So Michael Pennix

524
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Speaker 5: will learn from Kirk Cousins and will have an elite

525
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 5: quarterback prospect learn from Cousins, and then they'll never have

526
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Speaker 5: to pick in the top ten again for the next decade.

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Speaker 2: Denny. Basically, they're saying, we're gonna do a Green Bay Packer.

528
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Speaker 2: We're just gonna this is who.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Because Penex I thought was ready to play, they

530
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 5: one because of his age. But they're gonna make him

531
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Speaker 5: sit for two years at least.

532
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Speaker 2: My guess is he sits for a year also.

533
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Speaker 5: Six So well, one hundred million guaranteed, your cousin.

534
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Speaker 2: But I know, but they're not paying anybody offensively they've

535
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Speaker 2: I mean, if that's why they went in free agency

536
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: and can get a Rondell More, they can go get

537
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 2: players they don't have. I mean, Jarrett the defensive lineman's

538
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: making money. They're not paying. I mean, they had so

539
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Speaker 2: much money for Kirk, They're not paying very many people.

540
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Speaker 4: I wonder if that owner got so scarred after watching

541
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Speaker 4: the quarterback play these last two years and says under

542
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 4: no circumstances, after dealing with Matt Ryan for a decade,

543
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Speaker 4: are we ever dealing with this again? So not only

544
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Speaker 4: was he behind it, I wonder if he kind of

545
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: pushed for it, like just double down on this position.

546
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Speaker 4: Because watching Desmond.

547
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Speaker 5: Rittoral always have a succession plan. That's interesting, that's possible.

548
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 5: That would be an ownership thing.

549
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Speaker 4: And Rahee Morris I was telling Colin think two years

550
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 4: ago had a front row seat. Stafford went down and

551
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 4: the whole season got derailed. And now Cousins coming off

552
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: an Achilles. Now it's an expensive Achilles, one hundred million dollars.

553
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Speaker 2: But still, Danny, we said this. Raheem was a head coach,

554
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: got fired, Why quarterback? He goes to LA he becomes

555
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: Sean mcvay's best friend. McVeigh is in his ear saying, dude,

556
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna get another job. But let me just tell you.

557
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: We upgraded off a super Bowl quarterback. You cannot be

558
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: good enough or deep enough at quarterback. And I do

559
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: think Raheem is one of these, you know, these defensive

560
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: coaches wearing me out. But I do think Raheem I've

561
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: been told. I mean, he is quick. He is also

562
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: kind of a progressive. He's not one of these, like,

563
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: you know, I watched Pittsburgh Steelers offense sometime. I'm like,

564
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: can you guys run motion? I mean what it looks like.

565
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: I'm watching the NFL network in the eighties. It's like

566
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 2: there are these defensive coaches, Pete Carroll, I'm like, can

567
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: you can you get an offensive line right? Pete McDermott.

568
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 2: They couldn't get a run game for seven years. Raheem's

569
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Speaker 2: not that guy. He's got a little bit I'm trying

570
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 2: to think Demiko Ryans is the same. He's a defensive

571
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: coach coming from an offensive culture, and I think it matters.

572
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: I think Kyle Shanahan Dimiko comes out and says, I

573
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: get the league, and I think Raheem Morris says, I

574
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: get the league. I'm with McVeigh those guys. By the way,

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Speaker 2: has anybody on mcvay's tree not worked yet?

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Speaker 5: Right? Which is? I mean that's why I wanted the

577
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Speaker 5: Bears to fire eber Fluse and hire someone better than

578
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 5: Shane Waldron, although he is saying kind of he's on

579
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: the tree as well, old passing game coordinator. There. Offense

580
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 5: is the way of the league, and obviously if you

581
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Speaker 5: hit it quarterback, it's never a bad pick. It's just

582
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Speaker 5: a shocking allocation of resources with to draft the old

583
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 5: quarterback with the injuries in terms of a draft prospect,

584
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 5: when you just signed the old quarterback coming off of

585
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 5: the big injury like this is a very unconventional thing,

586
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 5: at least with Jordan Love. It had worked for the

587
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 5: franchise before and they thought Rogers was done, but then

588
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 5: Rogers shocked him and won a couple of MVPs. Kirk

589
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 5: Cousins hasn't played a game for the Falcons and they

590
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 5: drafted his replacement.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Danny Parkins has a book, Pipeline to the Pros.

592
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Speaker 2: It's outstanding. Also, Danny Parkins and Spiegel. It's Chicago. It's

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Speaker 2: a big radio hit. I can't believe we got you.

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Speaker 2: It's nine to seventeen. You have a family and young children.

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Speaker 5: Hollin, I'm in Detroit. It's ten seventeen. I'm in Detroit

596
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 5: to see the Bears get Caleb Williams and Row. I

597
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: left my four year old and two year old to

598
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 5: my wife in Chicago. I'm here for the party. My man,

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00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 5: I can call him Colin. The Bears just won the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty seven Super Bowl. Tonight, come on, Yeah, I'm texting.

601
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 5: I'm texting Nick Wright, taunting him that there's no shame

602
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 5: in Patrick Mahomes losing to Tom Brady and Caleb Williams

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Speaker 5: and supermow.

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Speaker 6: The volume.

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