1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to land to come here and then yeah, 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: and then free time you just go back up now? 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah you really? 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: Yeah? 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: I out of Nordwood, a little Bedford. Yeah, pretty fun. 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: How often did you get up? 7 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: Uh? 8 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: As much as I can, as much as I can, 9 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: not as much as I can. 10 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: Where do you botch? 11 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Uh? 12 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 2: Serious? 13 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh that's our twenty What what's. 14 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: What kind you into it? Uh? 15 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 4: I mean I've always grown up like anything with a 16 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 4: motoring and I try to do it, you know, jet skis, 17 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 4: bro boats, motorcycles for wheelers. I've kind of you know, 18 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 4: done it all and so got the opportunity kind of 19 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 4: dug into it. And as soon as I went up 20 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 4: for my Discovery flight like it it it bit me 21 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 4: and I was like, yeah, this is this is something 22 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 4: I loved doing. 23 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: Where did you uh to school? Would you learn? 24 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 4: Uh? Started at Norwood? Actually started here Norwood. Then I 25 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 4: finished up in Atlanta during the off season. Yeah, grew 26 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 4: up off season program to sort of get you get 27 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: me started here. 28 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on sort of just initially what 29 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: you've seen. 30 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's just that time. 31 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: It's early, you know what I mean, everyone's coming in 32 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: is working hard, just evaluate, you know, the new guys 33 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 4: are getting in, getting into the system, just getting to 34 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 4: know everybody, getting know your teammates. I think a big 35 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: part of this part of the season is just getting trust, 36 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 4: getting trusting your teammates. 37 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: That they know what they're doing, Beginning to learn and. 38 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: Then build those relationships off the field, you know, I 39 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 4: think that's a big part early. 40 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: What are your first impressions of those new guys? Three 41 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 2: guys from the draft class and your your position. 42 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 4: Group, they've come in, you know, you know day two 43 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: of them really being in. Uh, they've come in, you know, 44 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 4: the meetings, they're trying to answer questions. 45 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: You know, they're participating. 46 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: Uh. 47 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: And that's just that's the start, that's the start. 48 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: You meet Christian especially so far. 49 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, all the guys have been in there. 50 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: You know, we met them all and like I said, 51 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 4: they've all just bought in, you know, answering questions, you know, 52 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: asking questions and just trying to learn. 53 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: You felt that recording's presence. 54 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Here so far, Oh man, Dev It's hard not to 55 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Dev, It's just one of 56 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: those guys. 57 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 4: Even if it's room and he's not speaking, you notice 58 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 4: that he's there, so he's definitely missed that presence. 59 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, guys are having to step. 60 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Up for you the elder statesman. It looks like it. 61 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean it looks like I look around and I'm like, 62 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: my guys are gone. My guys are gone. But he's 63 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: kind of left a legacy, and even some of the other. 64 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 4: Guys you know that have played with him and been 65 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: here ap Doug, those guys, they've got an opportunity to 66 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: kind of leach off of him and get a lot 67 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: of information from him. 68 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: Do you feel a little bit more of a responsibility 69 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 3: now that you are that kind of elder statesmen in 70 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: the room, to be to have that leadership voice or 71 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: or whatnot? 72 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: A little bit? 73 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: You know, when we start to talk about the history 74 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 4: and how things have been, I think a lot of 75 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: the guys look at me as the guy that's kind 76 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: of been around, had some experience and done a few things. 77 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 4: So you're begetting to look around and there's a lot 78 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 4: of young guys and you're like, I'm not that old yet, 79 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: but so yeah, they kind of look up to you 80 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 4: and they want answers. 81 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: They want answers, and the young guys come in, they're hungry. 82 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: What did Devin teach you that you can never generation? 83 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,279 Speaker 1: I think for Devin, it was just that consistency. 84 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: You know, I've come in and I've watched him, you know, 85 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 4: going seven years of just watching him come in day 86 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: in and day out. 87 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: And I mean, you guys can attest it this. Devin 88 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: was the same person every day. 89 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 4: Every day he came in the media, he addressed you 90 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 4: guys the same he was that same way in the 91 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: locker room. 92 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: So just having that consistency when it comes. 93 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: To exerting leadership. 94 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 5: What have you learned about leadership from your own standpoint, 95 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 5: with your own voice so to speak. 96 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, my take on it is not much what you 97 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: say is what you do. 98 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 4: You know a lot of people will watch what you 99 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: do and when you come in the building, how you 100 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 4: come in the building, how you carry yourself here, and 101 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 4: then how you carry yourself away from here. So just 102 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 4: being that same consistent person and giving those guys something 103 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: to look. 104 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: Up to considering where you are today, I mean, how 105 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 5: you've gotten to this point. You came in undrafted, major 106 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 5: impact up of the kicking game, a cornerback, a couple 107 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 5: of contracts, now and established pro When you look back 108 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: and from that point to this point. 109 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: How do you sum it up? 110 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: How do you describe your. 111 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 4: Journey just as that as a journey, It's been, you know, 112 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 4: a roller coaster round ups and downs. But I've had 113 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: a good group of guys around me that I look to, 114 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: you know, Devin, you know any problem I have when 115 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,839 Speaker 4: there was on the field, off the field, I could 116 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: look over and say, well, that's Devin. You know, there's 117 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: pat there's those guys hot Tower. So it made it 118 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: easier for me as a young guy just to sit 119 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: back and watch and learn and see what it meant, 120 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 4: you know, not just to be a Patriot, but to 121 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 4: be a a good. 122 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Man on and off the field. So I had a 123 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: lot of good examples. 124 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: Where do you hope you have to play on the 125 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: outside again this year? 126 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: My answers to that is I get to play football. Yeah. 127 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 128 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 4: Anytime I get to go out there, you know, in 129 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 4: between those lines, I love it. So I'm not really, uh, 130 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 4: particularly worried about where I play, where I end up, 131 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: you know, I just like to be out there with 132 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: my teammates. 133 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 2: What about free agency, I think you signed a little 134 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: bit before you to maybe again, So I mean, did 135 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: you always want to get a major reserting chance in leaving. 136 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: Oh no, I think you know, when you a part 137 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: of a play like this, it has the tradition and 138 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 4: I know you know what they expect from me, and 139 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: it makes it easier. You know, when you go into 140 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: a place and there's been consistency, it just makes it easier, 141 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: easier decision. 142 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: Coming about your most statistical you know what the best 143 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: season with numbers. 144 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 4: And all that, what he what you need to do 145 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 4: or what you want the snow of that, you know, 146 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: how do you how do you propose just to sort 147 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: of you take away the next season just at the number? 148 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: Steve, Oh, I think for me, just continue to learn. 149 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: H I think the opportunity this year is to be 150 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: able to look, you know, more things outside during the 151 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,799 Speaker 4: off season and just you know, be a well around 152 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 4: the person. You know, continue to learn the defense, you know, 153 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 4: learn the history, learn other offenses, learn you know, as 154 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 4: much as I can. Just absorb as much knowledge as 155 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: I can. 156 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 2: And they asked you to. 157 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 4: Take Christian or any other rookies under way or anything 158 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 4: like that, Oh No, I think they've kind of just 159 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: more Uh, look at the guys have done it. You 160 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: know what I mean, there's a lot of good guys 161 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 4: that they can look up to, and you know, if 162 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 4: they choose me, I'm gonna be there no matter what. 163 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: John, that is that cornerback. 164 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 4: Uh, what is your reaction when the draft comes and 165 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: the Thief's first round pick is a cornerback? 166 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: We need it, you know, we need help. 167 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: We need all the help that we could get. We 168 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: had a lot of you know, transition in that position, 169 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: you know, over the last few years, and just we 170 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: need it. We need a little bit of help. 171 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: Uh. As a cornerback. What's it like to Aaron Rodgers 172 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: come to the position? 173 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 4: Uh? 174 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: A lot more competition. It feels good, you know, every 175 00:05:59,200 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: Sunday you. 176 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: Get out the go out there and compete and just 177 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: to have one of the odd time greats you know 178 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: in your division. 179 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: Uh, makes it fun, something to look forward to. 180 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: I mean, have you seen the list of quarterbacks you 181 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: guys are playing? It's all Uh, it's a good list. 182 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: That's a good it's a good list. 183 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 2: It'll be fun. 184 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: It'll be fun. 185 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: Oh, but you guys get on the field next week. 186 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: The pro lo T practice is a mini camp. What's 187 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: gonna make that a successful time? Like what do you 188 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: want to see leave the spring and go. 189 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 4: We had a really good seventh practice, I think, just 190 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: getting better day by day, just coming in and proving, 191 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 4: you know, start see where we start on Monday, and 192 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: hope that when we leave here, you know, at the 193 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: end of the June, it doesn't look the same, you know, 194 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 4: and that's kind of a a good indicator, you know, 195 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: heading into the fall. 196 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: So did you say at the getting of your episode 197 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: you got your pilot license? 198 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? 199 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 2: I did. How long does that process take? 200 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: Uh? 201 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: I mean it just depends. 202 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: Uh, it depends on you know, your opportunity availability that 203 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 4: you can kind of get in and get in and 204 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: uh get it done. 205 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: I really like flood hours. 206 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: Uh, like the minimums forty. Most people do it around sixty. 207 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, when it's what, what like when did you 208 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 2: get your license? 209 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: Uh? 210 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: I think I was around like sixty sixty five hours, 211 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: like uh February wards, uh April, like the beginning of April. Yeah, 212 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: so yeah, has been fun. 213 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: So like what do you think we get trips home 214 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: or whatever? You fight yourself that's the ultimate goal. 215 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 4: I haven't made it from like here back home yet, 216 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: but you know, just hop around here Martha's vineyard, you know, 217 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 4: get around. 218 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, alright, perfect favorite place before ooh uh probably Martha's Vineyard. 219 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: It was, you know, get to go out and explore 220 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: Boston a little bit. It's just it's fun. 221 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: Perfect. 222 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: Uh. 223 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 5: Jack last season showed a lot of promise, but obviously 224 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: a bit of a difficult end of the season for 225 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 5: him as a leader in that room. 226 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: Uh, how can you help him kind of get back 227 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: onto the track that he was uh earlier in the year. 228 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: Uh, just to be there for you know, anything that 229 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: he needs, you know, whether it be on the field, 230 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 4: off the field, Just to show him, you know, what 231 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: it is to be you know, a Newland Patriot cornerback, 232 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: a player and just a professional you know in this league. 233 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: And just to let watch him continue to grow, you know, 234 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: heading into year two. You just wanna see grow. 235 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: We talked to Juwan uh last week that he's a 236 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: guy who was obviously kept him before, could take on 237 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: a bigger role with Devin, you know for a leadership 238 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: sat point Devin being gun, What have you seen from 239 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: him put a couple of years? 240 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: What do you make up to do one? 241 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: Uh, He's coming under some great guys, Like it's a 242 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: hot tower. He got to sit back and watch. 243 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 4: Him be a leader. And he's taking on that role 244 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 4: so well. He comes in every day, he works. He 245 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 4: doesn't say too much all the time, but when he 246 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: does it, it's impactful. 247 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: Did you notice the change, Like does he say to 248 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: be a little bit more before those guys can get 249 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: over more comfortable in that role? 250 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: Definitely? You know you see you hear his voice a 251 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: little bit more. 252 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: Like I said that he have to fill in that 253 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: gap for guys who will no longer hear and he's 254 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: definitely done that. 255 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: You said, you're male's pack. 256 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he's He's been one of the guys 257 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: that you know as a player. To have a former 258 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 4: player just kind of be a coach, it's just a 259 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 4: different dynamic, a little different relationship. 260 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: What does he do well journed as a coach, Like 261 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: what what makes him to get prot so a lot? 262 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, Mail does a lot of things. 263 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: I think from my understanding for me personally, it's just 264 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: that's just relationship from a player. 265 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: Uh, it's more of a player player, you know what 266 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean? And he has that that knowledge from a 267 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: player's perspective. I thank you