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The Colin Coward Podcast 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: presented by the Fan Duel Sports Book. Hi, everybody, and 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: welcome in going to be a fantastic podcast. In about 13 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: ten minutes, John Middlecoff fromer NFL Scout thoughts on the 14 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: draft and the weekend. It got very low ratings, but 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: nonetheless I thought several teams hit it out of the park. 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Let's start with this for about ten minutes, though. Draymond 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: Greene will have a podcast and it'll be all over 18 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: the Volume Sports YouTube page. Please go there now. He 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: was ejected, and I want to start with this. To 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: get ejected from an NBA game, it had to be 21 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: a flagrant two foul, which I did not think it was. 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: He grabbed a jersey, that's a flagrant one. The argument 23 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: can be made that he appeared to touch the face 24 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: of the player, although he tried to pull the player down, 25 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: it didn't look like he was trying to throw him. 26 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: It didn't appear violent to me, but Draymond's a very, 27 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: very physical player. I think it's the kind of call 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: that you get at home, and you don't get in Memphis. 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: I thought the Warriors not only won the game, but 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: I kind of felt like they won the series in 31 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: Game one. So Draymond is ejected in the first half. 32 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: In the game, the Warriors missed four open threes, Clay 33 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Thompson missed two straight free throws, and the officiating was, 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: to say the least interesting. That was a game Memphis 35 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: had to win, absolutely had to win. No Draymond. In 36 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: the second half, their best defender, you're at home, Clay 37 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: rock to free throws. Even Steph Curry missed multiple open 38 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: threes late in the game. I thought you saw the 39 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: intelligence of the Warriors and the patience of the Warriors 40 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: on display against a super talented but very young Memphis 41 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: Grizzlies team again. Go to the YouTube page the volume 42 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: sports Draymond Greens podcast and thoughts on the game are there. 43 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: My second NBA opinion is on Milwaukee beating Boston. Listen, 44 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: Championship teams have the ability to make you play their game. 45 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: So Boston, as good as they are defensively, is not 46 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: a big team, and so they're going to have to 47 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: sacrifice points down low. They're they're just not going to 48 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: be able to in this series consistently score down low. 49 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: So it's going to be a very perimeter based series 50 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: for Boston. What's that mean They're gonna get hot a 51 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: couple of games and win. They were not hot in 52 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: Game one, and frankly, bigger, more experienced, stronger Milwaukee team 53 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: with the best player on the floor dominated I thought 54 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: Janis struggled early, miss five or six balls around the 55 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: basket that he usually makes. I thought Milwaukee should have 56 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: had a bigger lead. And I just think when you're 57 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: looking at Boston, there are ways Boston has to play 58 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: to win. They're gonna have to shoot very well from 59 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: the perimeter to win this series. They're gonna get nothing 60 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: down low, whereas Milwaukee will get points in the paint 61 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: points in the break, which they were very effective end 62 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: points from the perimeter. Marcus Smart also was hurt during 63 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: the game. Now he played, but Marcus Smart appeared to 64 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: be playing at about sixty to seventy percent. This is 65 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: a big loss. Tatum's their best player. Marcus Smart feels 66 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: like the heart and soul of the Celtics. He's their 67 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: best defensive player. He'll sacrifice whatever it takes to better 68 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: the team. Even Tatum at times can be a little 69 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: bit about Jason Tatum. So Chris Middleton's out for the Bucks, 70 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: but he is not their go to score. Janice's number one. 71 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: Drew Holiday is their number three score, and Drew's been 72 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: in these playoff spots many times. He's very dependable. So 73 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: I think you can mitigate some of that. Whereas with 74 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: the Celtics, I don't think you can win the series 75 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: if Marcus Smart is not playing at one hundred percent. 76 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: So keep your eye on that. I said I wanted 77 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: to see game one and had have a greater feel 78 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: for the series. My field today is Milwaukee wins in 79 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: six or seven. Before I get to middlecoff one college 80 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: football thought, there is a wide receiver for the pitt 81 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: Panthers Jordan Addison, who won the bullet Nikoff Award as 82 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: the nation's best wide receiver, and he is or has 83 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: entered the transfer portal. But there is some concern by 84 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: everybody that's not a USC fan that there was tampering, 85 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: tampering before he got into the portal, And it does 86 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: appear he'll go to Texas or USC coin flip. He 87 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: could also go back to Pittsburgh, but he was spotted 88 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: at McCarron Airport in Las Vegas. My guess he'll be 89 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: a trojan. First of all, tampering? Does everybody get that? 90 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: Talented people can talk? How did Mel Tucker end up 91 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: at Michigan State? He was under contract at Colorado? How 92 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: did Nick Saban end up at Alabama? He was under 93 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: contract with the Dolphins. You do realize that the best assistants, 94 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: the best coordinators, and the best coaches are under contract, 95 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: including Lincoln Riley. When they are talking to other people. 96 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: You can squawk about fic, but you're really really naive. 97 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: Fox talk to me when I was at ESPN a 98 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: year before I left, and as I was under contract 99 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: at Fox, ESPN has come back to me and asked 100 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: my interest in returning it's zero. I appreciate it. I'm flattered. 101 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: People talk. NBA players talk all the time before the 102 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: trading deadline. You can't stop it. Nobody's tracking cell phones 103 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: this idea. Well, who is contacting? There's coaches, there's friends, 104 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: there's former players. Listen, Jordan Addison may choose to go 105 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: back to Pittsburgh. Why is he interested in USC? Oh, 106 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: good Hell, the entertainment capital of the country. Caleb Williams 107 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, I don't know. Why would he be interested. 108 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Pitt is a top twenty program. Maybe USC is historically 109 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: a top three program. Most players ever drafted in NFL 110 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: history as USC Yes, a star wide receiver and star 111 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: quarter acts are going to transfer a lot in the 112 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: next five to ten years. If Lincoln Riley is the 113 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: head coach, you've got to get over this whole tampering thing. 114 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: How did you get your head coach in college? My 115 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: guess is he was somewhere else and your school contacted 116 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: him and he picked up the phone or had his 117 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: agent negotiate while he was under contract. These are scholarships, 118 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: they're not binding. Forever coaches leave under contract written up 119 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: by attorneys. That's how you got your football coach. In 120 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: terms of the NFL draft, listen, my feeling has always 121 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: been after the weekend, I don't really break down which 122 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: teams had the best draft. I thought the Jets first 123 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: four picks will all be starters. That's a really good draft. 124 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: And I thought the Jets drafted really smartly last year, 125 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: getting a receiver and a running back that both play. 126 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: So I think Joe Douglas, the Jets GM is really 127 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: good and he's got the franchise on stable ground, at 128 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: least in the executive suite. But what I do is 129 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: take your free agent signings of note and combine it 130 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: with your top two or three picks. And when I 131 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: do that, there is no question the Denver Broncos are 132 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: the most improved football team from the Super Bowl until 133 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: you're watching this podcast, not just Russell Wilson. So Drew 134 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: Locke to Russell Wilson feels like an upgrade. They then 135 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: add Randy Gregory from the Cowboys, a very good pass rusher, 136 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: and d J. Jones, a wildly underrated run stopper defensive 137 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: line from San Francisco. They then draft Nick Benito and 138 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: edge rusher from Oklahoma, wildly athletic I'm not done. They 139 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: then take out Vic Fangio, a seventy year old defensive coach, 140 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: and replace him with Nathan Hackett, a young, progressive offensive coach. 141 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: So they've which the coach to the right side of 142 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: the ball. They'd bring in a Hall of Fame level 143 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: quarterback to replace Drew Locke. They already had their receivers 144 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: and targets in place. They massively upgrade their pass rush 145 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: and defensive line. So now I've got the three things, 146 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: make it four that are the key to the rams success. 147 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: Offensive coach, star quarterback, plenty of weapons, and a great 148 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: pass rush. Oh, by the way, Rams have Jalen Ramsey 149 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: at corner, and the Broncos Patrick Surtan may have been 150 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: one of the top two or three draft picks last 151 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: year from Bama. He's a great corner for Denver. They 152 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: are to me in the top three teams that should 153 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: be Super Bowl favorites. 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Well, 194 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: of course I was going to bring in John Middlecoff, 195 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: host of the Three and Out podcast and the Go 196 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: Low Golf Pod. He's a former NFL scout based in 197 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. So you know, I tend to I 198 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: look at your free agent signings, your coaching changes, and 199 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: the first three draft picks. Is how I've always judged 200 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: the Monday after the draft. So I just said, I 201 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: think the Denver Broncos between DJ Jones, Randy Gregory, Nathaniel Hackett, 202 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and the first couple of draft picks including 203 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: Nick Benito, the edge as super athletic edge for Oklahoma, 204 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: their defensive line is going to be much more athletic, 205 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: much more dynamic. Obviously, they moved to an offensive side 206 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: of the ball. I don't know much about George Peyton. 207 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's a friend of mine, the forward Cowboy coach, 208 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: and he I had a conversation about two months ago 209 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: and he said, listen, man, the guys smart. He's a grinder, 210 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: he's a good dude. Just my takeaway is I went 211 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: back and I looked at the Denver Broncos over the 212 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: last you know, this weekend. Obviously, I think they've hit 213 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: a home I think the Jets with Joe Douglas and 214 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: the Broncos with George Payton have hit home runs in 215 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: their GM search. And by the way, John, you can't 216 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: go to college to major in NFLGM. Sometimes it's luck. 217 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: But those two guys in the last couple of drafts, 218 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: Damn John, they're good. And they also drafted the fast 219 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: tight end from UCLA right because they lost no offense, 220 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: so you replace it with the guy that can stretch 221 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: the defense, you know, at the middle of the field. 222 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: I think over the last handful of years, I know 223 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: your buddies with Ballard, there's been a couple of guys 224 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: that the league kind of universally agreed this guy's gonna 225 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: be a GM when he chooses to, and he's gonna 226 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: be really good at it. Now, the difference with an 227 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: assistant GM, right is like you see an offensive her 228 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, so you kind of see their work, but 229 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: you don't really know what an assistant GM's doing. But 230 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: everyone talked up Chris Ballard, then they talked up George Peyton. 231 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: He'd been turning down jobs. Now, to me, you're two 232 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: biggest moves as a general manager is obviously your quarterback. 233 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: Finding the quarterback. Also the head coach. We'll see. I mean, 234 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna find out about this coach. It's 235 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: not like he was some can't miss coaching prospect. Now 236 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: you see, Davis guy really smart, comes from a football background. 237 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: His dad obviously was connected with Bill Walsh and Joe Montana. 238 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: So it's not like this guy came out of nowhere. 239 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: But you can feel he's got a high energy. It's 240 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: kind of like an offensive Pete Carroll. I was told 241 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I was I called a buddy in the league, I 242 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: think probably five six days ago, and he said he 243 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: worked with someone who'd been around Nate Hackett. Obviously everyone 244 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: likes the guy. Yeah, and he says it's either gonna go, 245 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome, or it's not gonna work. And 246 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: it's just there's not much in between. I think sometimes 247 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: with the high energy, high kind of motor guy, which 248 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: is kind of the new end or the new age coaches, right, 249 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: not the surly Bill Parcel's type guys kind of dying. Yeah. 250 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: I you know, the Eagles made a trade for aj Brown, 251 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: the Niners didn't. On debo and I'm just wondering about this. 252 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: I saw a quote about a week ago or Kyle 253 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: Shanahan said, I really hope we keep Debo. And there's 254 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: this perception that Kyle and John Lynch are close, but 255 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: I think they'd be less close if Deebo Samuel was 256 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: dealt and John's track record as the forty nine ers 257 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: GM has been a mixed bag. There's some misses and 258 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: there's some hits. How do you view I mean, I 259 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: get moving off Debo, but I do think he's a 260 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: stupendous player. My concern is if you pay Debo and 261 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Kittle big money, they're both injury prone. That's that's a 262 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: that could go sideways by week six and then you've, 263 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, you got bags of money and nobody playing. 264 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: What's the relationship do you think between what did you 265 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: make of the Niners draft and the Lynch Kyle current relationship? Yeah, 266 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean I think they made the right move because 267 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: I think Debo's value is pretty unique. I mean, you 268 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: saw the potential Jets offer sucked. I mean pick ten 269 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: for Debo and you had to get pick you know, 270 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: the second your second round pick, so it didn't make 271 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: any sense for the forty nine ers to make that move. 272 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: I also think a j Brown had more universal value 273 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: on the market to every team. You know, he's a 274 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: big outside wide receiver. I mean, Debo, he's not a 275 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: gadget player, but he's you need the right coach to 276 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: have Deebo Samuel. Now, I think where it's the George 277 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: Kittle because he plays tight end, doesn't make that much money. 278 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: His guaranteed contract I think was well under forty million dollars. 279 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: So they got lucky that one of their star players 280 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: that position kind of gets screwed in the in the 281 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: market hierarchy of NFL of paying players. But they're about 282 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: to pay Nick Bosa, who we all see what the 283 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: edge dreshers make. I mean he's gonna get, you know, 284 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: basically a quarterback contract right making twenty five million dollars 285 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: a year with true guarantees of you know, one hundred 286 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: and five hundred and ten million dollars. So it is 287 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: a complicated situation. I do think the money that aj 288 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Brown got fifty seven million dollars guaranteed is kind of 289 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: team friendly. You know, you see some of these numbers, 290 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: seventy five eighty million dollars, it's not that much. Now 291 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: he is twenty four deep, same with Debo or I 292 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: guess Debo's twenty five, but he's been injured. I do 293 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: understand the reservations from the forty nine ers, but how 294 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: many guys do you know that you can win playoff 295 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: games with? And he's one of those guys, Like when 296 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: you step on a game to play another team in 297 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: January on the road, he can be the best player 298 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: in them. You know that for a fact. The other thing, 299 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: he's a good guy, like great energy guy. He's not 300 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: a negative guy at all. He's very positive. I think him. 301 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: Kyle and John love Deebo Samuel And they said something 302 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 1: I think after maybe their Thursday night press conference or 303 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: Friday night press conference, is when the season ends, the 304 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: players just there's a separation for a long time, and 305 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: you spend a lot of time on your phone and 306 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: a lot of things get said. They said, we know 307 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: the guy, you know. We didn't just meet him last year. 308 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: We've been around him for three years. We're pretty confident. 309 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: And this is also why these younger coaches, their relationship 310 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: with players really matters. You know. I think the days 311 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: of Walsh and Parcels and even what Belichick still is 312 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: get rid of anyone at any moment. That's not really 313 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: how Kyle and McVeigh kind of operate because they're actually 314 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: much closer in age to some of these guys, and 315 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: through their actions they feel even younger than forty years old. 316 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: So I think it'll all get worked out. Malik Willis 317 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: drops to the Titans at number eighty six. Obviously, NFL 318 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: general managers, who knows if Kenny Pickett goes in the 319 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: first round, if Pittsburgh and the Panthers and the Steelers 320 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: don't share facilities. I mean that some of that felt 321 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: like they'd seen so much of Kenny Pickett that they 322 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: drafted him. What was the NFL saying about Malik Willis? 323 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: I mean what they were saying, I mean, how the 324 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: unc kid would in the fifth round? I think, I know. 325 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: I struggle with the word dropped. I mean, did a 326 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,719 Speaker 1: lot of teams have him viewed as a first round player? 327 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: He had some first round attributes, huge arm athletic guy, 328 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: but as a player he was not very good. And 329 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: this notion Josh Allen was huge. Josh Allen was six 330 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: five and a half, ran like Cam Newton and could 331 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: throw the ball out of the stadium. I mean, he's 332 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: a pretty unique case. So if we're always going to 333 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: use him as the example. I think a lot of 334 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: teams aren't comfortable with doing that. I think both him 335 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: and Desmond Ritter went where they were supposed to go. There. 336 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: We act like there's something wrong with going in the 337 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: third round. I mean, most humans that play this ward 338 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: of football never sniffed the NFL, let alone get drafted. 339 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: Going in the third round is still pretty impressive as 340 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback, right, Russell Wilson went there. We know Brady 341 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: Monte Scott fourth round. Yeah, yeah, I mean Kirk Cousins, Like, 342 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: I just think there are only so many picks in 343 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,159 Speaker 1: the first round, really the first two rounds, right, And 344 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: a large percentage of teams have quarterbacks that they've recently 345 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,479 Speaker 1: drafted or guys under big contracts that they're not going 346 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback. So the percentage of teams that 347 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: are going to draft a rookie quarterback high is already 348 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: cut by what fifty percent, maybe even higher, So it's 349 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: a small percent. We act like every team is in 350 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: the mix. It's just not true. Look at Tennessee, you 351 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:00,239 Speaker 1: know they could have taken a quarterback that, but they 352 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: easily could have not. I just think they saw value there. 353 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: They have a starting quarterback. It makes a lot of sense. 354 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: Same thing with Desmond Ritter. What's his comparison? Kind of 355 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: like a Mariota type guy, right, Arthur Smith read kind 356 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: of resurrected Ryan Tannehill, athletic guy. Good spot for him. 357 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: I want to I'll ask you one more draft question 358 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: that I want to get into some nil stuff because 359 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating. So you know, when I looked 360 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: at the draft overall, it didn't have any stars. But 361 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: I saw Isaiah Spiller go in the fourth round of 362 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: the Chargers. He was super productive the last two years, 363 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: six ft two, twenty Texas and m big, productive, can run. Oh, 364 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, it can't be that bad of a draft. 365 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 1: That guy went in the fourth round. There was also 366 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: a player, a safety for Oklahoma. He's small, it's a 367 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: hyphenated name. I apologize, I forget his name. He went 368 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: in the fifth round, and I'm like, oh, he'll make 369 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: the league. You know, my takeaway was if there would 370 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: have been four quarterbacks in this draft, would we have 371 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: looked at it differently? Did your people, as a former scout, 372 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 1: say it's I was told players ran out late fifth 373 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: you ran out of players, But I don't think it 374 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: was that week. I kept going back round after round 375 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: after round. I'm like, God, Isaiah Spiller was fantastic for 376 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: an m and he went in the fourth round. I 377 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: think the majority of the drafts, like after pick like 378 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: one hundred to two hundred, are relatively the same. You're 379 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: gonna find Pro Bowl guys, you're gonna find all pro guys, 380 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: You're gonna find really good players. But the draft Ebben 381 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: flows with the power of it at the top, and 382 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: obviously last year was pretty unique. You had the Jets 383 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna take a quarterback at number two, the forty nine 384 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: Ers made this historic trade. Belichick was gonna take a quarterback. 385 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears ended up with Justin Fields, who became 386 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: very polarizing. All the star power from the position players. 387 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: So I think that's why the draft. And I saw 388 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: you on Twitter talking about why the ratings were down. Well, 389 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: eight teams in that first round pick San Francisco, major market, Chicago, 390 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: major market, Denver, major NFL market. I mean, why would 391 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: you even watch the draft if your teams even picking right? 392 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: And some of these teams didn't have first or second 393 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: round picks, like the Raiders, like the Broncos. So I 394 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: it was a unique draft in terms of how many 395 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: teams had multiple picks really high. But I'm with you, like, 396 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: you can get good picks. I never have huge takes 397 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 1: on like four fifth round players because you go to 398 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: enough training camps, you watch enough preseason football that undrafted 399 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: free agents. That's the unique part about football, Right all 400 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden, by the second week in training camp, 401 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: you're like, I think we might have a starting guard 402 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: as an undrafted free agent or starting safety. Happens every team, 403 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: the good ones and the bad ones. So yeah, I mean, 404 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: I think the pressure and the hype gets put on 405 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: the top guys, but you can always find George Kittles 406 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: and Richard Sherman's. It happens in literally every draft. Okay, 407 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: I want to ask you one Warriors question because you're 408 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: Bay Area oriented, and I'm gonna ask an nil question, 409 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: So let me pivot to nil. Jordan Addison is a 410 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: really good receiver, bullet and the cough winner, and people 411 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: are freaking out because they're saying it's tampering, And to that, 412 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: I say, you do understand that you're college football coach 413 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: currently was under contract when another school contacted him. And 414 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: then he left. That's how they get your coordinators. That's 415 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: how you got your coordinators is that mel Tucker had 416 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: a contract. And then Jimmy Sexton, who probably represents him, 417 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: calls Mellon says, Michigan State want you so your coach, 418 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 1: if you love your coach, he had another job and 419 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: it was under contract. I do think the nils a 420 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: little off the rails. But the NC double A is 421 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: so weak, the management, the vision is so weak that 422 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: they're just not prepared for the tsunami of transactions. I 423 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: do think over time it will be the guard rails 424 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: will go up a little bit. I think you won't 425 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: be able to transfer in the season. Now you could 426 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: transfer as you if you're a Michigan Wolverine the week 427 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: before Ohio State, you could transfer to Ohio State. Like 428 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: I think that'll be buttoned up, and I think the 429 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,439 Speaker 1: name image likeness, they'll You'll have to be a current player. 430 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: You'll have to have like three games under your belt 431 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: as a college player to get paid. You can't just 432 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: we don't want boosters buying high school football players. But 433 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: the Jordan Addison situation's interesting because my takeaway is the 434 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: Pitt Panthers or maybe a top twenty five program La 435 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Lincoln Caleb Williams, biggest college football brand west of Texas. Like, 436 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not outraged by it. It doesn't 437 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm like talented people in tech broadcasting. I found you, 438 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and we went and where are you at? 439 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: We found it, We figured out how do we buy 440 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: him and get him over. I'm in the process of 441 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: doing that with another broadcaster. He's at a company, he's 442 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: got a contract. I'm trying to bring him into the volume. 443 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm not bothered by it, but I do think a 444 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: lot of Middle America thinks this is gross and it's 445 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: totally turned off by it. Yeah, to me, this one's 446 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: pretty black and white. Like if you just started a 447 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: volume two point zero and you didn't take me, I'd 448 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: have to start looking at my options now. This guy 449 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: lost his quarterback. This guy plays received his quarterback, just 450 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: went twentieth his most valuable Like, you are my most 451 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: valuable asset with the volume. You are the proponent behind 452 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: this thing and it's shooting like a rocket ship. This 453 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: guy won this award with this quarterback that went twentieth 454 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: overall to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like that guy's gone now. 455 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: At last I checked, Pittsburgh isn't pumping out a lot 456 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: of top quarterbacks, right, So he goes he's transferring not 457 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: to a program like that doesn't know their quarterback situation, 458 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: which most people view is probably him. The Alabama guy 459 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: and Ohio State guys three best college quarterbacks, So why 460 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't you go play with one of? Right? Look look 461 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: at the Jamar Chase two years ago. Did he sit 462 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: out because he didn't want to play? No, because he 463 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: realized LSU was a dumpster fire and Joe Burrow was gone. 464 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: If Joe Burrow had a return, do you think Jamar 465 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: Chase probably plays like I think, specifically at quarterback, when 466 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: you're so tied to production and catching the football, it's 467 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: out of your control. I think this one's pretty easy. Yet, 468 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: if you told me that he would also been in 469 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: contact with Alabama and Ohio State, I wouldn't be shocked 470 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: at all. Why wouldn't this guy worry about his future? 471 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: It's a it's a business decision that given the rules, 472 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,959 Speaker 1: they're a little crazy. Right now, I think we all 473 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: acknowledge that. But given the rules, I think most people 474 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: in his situation, what if he can't say this because 475 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: this guy's teammate. Technically, If he's like god, the backups 476 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 1: on this program stink, right, I'm gonna lose value. Why 477 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: why would I stay? By the way, I had a 478 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: executive in the NFL tell me after the USC spring game. 479 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: He said, Calo Williams would have gone number one this year. 480 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: He'll go number one in two years. C J. Stroud 481 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: probably goes number one next year. He's like, Kylo Williams 482 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: is going to go number one in two years. Players 483 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: aren't idiots. Jordan Addison knows you watch him player like 484 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: like god, he's like twenty. I heard a story last 485 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: year that people other programs were sniffing around at Kenny 486 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: on Kenny Pickett. Notre Dame wanted him to come be 487 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: their quarterback last year. I mean, it's happening all over 488 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: the place. Some people are choosing to leave, then some 489 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: people are choosing to stay. It's a decision he made 490 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: to me the right one because especially with Lincoln Riley 491 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: and this quarterback. Can you imagine the stats this guy's 492 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: gonna put up, especially in the conference. I mean, it's 493 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be fantastic, all right, one Warrior question. 494 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: I thought, there are times you win a game and 495 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: there are times you win a series. I thought the 496 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: fact that the Warriors won Draymond's ejected. The officiating was 497 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: at best laughable. It was bad Clay Thompson brick too 498 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: late free throws, They moved the ball brilliantly. How many 499 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: three pointers opened three pointers that they missed in the 500 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: last four minutes six I thought Memphis had to win 501 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: that game. I felt like, Oh, that's that's the series. 502 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: Like that, that's that was my interpretation. What did you 503 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: make of the effort? Yeah, I mean, I think the 504 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: thing that's unique about the NBA and baseball is the series. 505 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: A devastating loss Game one can really cripple you when 506 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: ultimately Memphis the underdog. I mean, they're playing a team 507 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: with championship DNA. How about playing the Warriors now, and 508 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, Clay is still coming back and who knows 509 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: if we'll ever quite be the same. Staff is still 510 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: one of the greatest players we've ever seen. But they 511 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: have a third splashbro Colin. They had this guy that 512 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: at any moment can go for thirty points. I mean, 513 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 1: how can you think how unique those guys that we'd 514 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: never seen anything quite like Stephen Clay. And I'm not 515 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: saying this guy's ever gonna be quite Steph or Clay, 516 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: but he's right now pretty damn close. I mean, just 517 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: banging threes in these big how do you guard them? 518 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: Think of what it took from their center hitting all 519 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: those threes. That's not happening very often. And that's part 520 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: of the reason that the game was so close is 521 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: I don't even what Jaren Jackson finished with, like thirty 522 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 1: five points, felt like he hit seven eight threes, Like 523 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen again, and they get you know, Draymond. 524 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: People love shitting on Draymond because his stats, you know, 525 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: especially in the regular season, which and we've it's been 526 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: proven out the regular season NBA is pretty irrelevant. But Draymond, 527 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: if you know what you're watching with the NBA, is 528 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: one of the most special players we've ever seen. Given 529 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: his team and what he for them to lose him, 530 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: I thought the Warriors are screwed this game. There's kind 531 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: of have have to win, win Game two, get back to Chase, 532 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: and then take it from there for them to come out. 533 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about imagine if the Chiefs and 534 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: the Bills. That was like a three or five game series. 535 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: You would the Bills would never have been able to 536 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: come back from that loss, Right, how does Memphis come 537 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: back from that loss? I mean they took the lead late, 538 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: it felt like, oh, they're gonna lose it, and like 539 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: you said, he clanks the free throws. I don't know. 540 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, and Memphis clearly really talented. Their their coach 541 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: who kind of has more of a doesn't mean look 542 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: like an NFL assistant coach, an NFL offensive line coach 543 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: that already's kind of hefty. But that's that's a tough one. Now, 544 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: I'll give him Memphis credit. They do. They have a 545 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: lot of fight. I mean that the kind of the 546 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: ethos of the franchise, right, just the guys they've had 547 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: over the years and even this group. But I don't know, man, 548 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: it's you would say Game two would be absolute must 549 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: win for them if they're gonna get this thing to 550 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: six or seven games. By the way, check it out 551 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 1: Draymond Green his podcast It is Up. Go to the 552 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: Volume Sports YouTube channel. He is amazing. He is the 553 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: hardest working pro athlete with a podcat. He is so 554 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: good and you know, what's great is he always has 555 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: something interesting to say. He's not just labbing, like he 556 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: goes back and it's fascinating. I mean he's he's breaking 557 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: down plays, he's breaking down steals. He's I mean, Draymond 558 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: is the next Charles Barkley, That's what he is. He's 559 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: the next Charles Barkley on television. Yeah, he's just a 560 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: he's a one off. I mean they just you know Charles. 561 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: There hasn't been another Charles. There's not even close to 562 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: another Draymond Green. And can I ran about something really quick? Sure? 563 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: This guy, you know, I was a part of your 564 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: podcast network with Notre Dame. I had I had an 565 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: NFL exec say that, you know, the old scout used 566 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: to get very mad when a guy wouldn't participate, either 567 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: in the forty or just in a specific drill during 568 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: the draft process. You're not competing, you're not getting done. 569 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: And this guy's a younger executive and he always thought 570 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: like that's pretty stupid, Like this is ultimately a business, 571 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: Like you make business decisions. Every human does. And Kyle 572 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: Hamilton ran twice and it didn't go well. You were part. 573 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: I afforded you a text and got you on a 574 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: text chain with an executive before the draft process started, he, 575 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: like the majority of the league, thought this guy is 576 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: easily a top five player in the draft. We all 577 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: watched him in Notre Dame. But then he ran, and 578 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: he ran slow, and once the card is on the board, 579 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: it is hard when you see four, six, five or whatever. 580 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: He ran taking a guy really high, so you're naturally 581 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: gonna drop right. It's like it's like putting a house 582 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: on the market. The inspection comes and something comes up weird. 583 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean the houses. It just might have to 584 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: fix that, or it actually might not even be a 585 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: big deal, but it lessens the value, you know, and 586 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: it hurt his value. He dropped a fourteen. Drake London, 587 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: who I like never ran, refused to run, which was smart. 588 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: I give him credit. If Drake London ran, he'd run 589 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: a four to six. Name me the last time a 590 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver goes in the top ten that runs a 591 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: four to six. So I think some of these guys, 592 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: and I respect anyone that competes and tries to run 593 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: a forty, but Kyle Hamilton one would have been better off. 594 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: He just never ran a forty, And it's it's part 595 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: of the stupid part about this whole draft process, but 596 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: it does. We always talk like forty times shouldn't matter, 597 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: Well it does. I mean it impacts you. And it 598 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: led to the Ravens getting you know, arguably top five 599 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: six player in this draft at fourteen. It happens every year. Yep. 600 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: Great stuff. By the way, they got the best safety 601 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: in the best center at the fourteenth and I think 602 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: twenty fifth draft spot. They also got Lamar Jackson late 603 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: first round like some teams have just figured out how 604 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: to draft. They're really really good. The Volume, make sure 605 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: to check out The Draymond Green Show. I brought Draymond 606 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 1: Green into the volume because one of the more entertaining 607 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: voices in sports, unique perspective understands behind the rope. 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