WEBVTT - Alien Comics Omnibus 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:18.480 Today, we're kicking off zenem Off week. Yay. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.480 We're latching onto your faces and showing up in your 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.840 ear canals with four alien focused backback episodes this. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.160 Week leading up to the release of Alien Romulus. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:31.600 On today's episode, we're exploring some of the wildest alien 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:35.320 comic book crossovers, from Judge Dread to Clark Kent to Bampfires. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.360 The Xenimos have lovingly found their way into the chest 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.400 cavities of characters in every corner of pop culture, and 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:42.920 we are here to guide you through. 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:47.800 So the story of Alien in. 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.080 Comics is a wild one that begins the same year 0:00:51.760 --> 0:00:54.800 as the movie and features some of the biggest names 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.600 in comic book creation and some of the most famous 0:00:58.640 --> 0:00:59.720 superheroes on the planet. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:03.800 And to join me on this epic journey. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:08.000 Through comic book and movie history is the producer Princesses 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:17.000 Carmen Lorentz and Joezy What's so hello? 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.560 Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:20.080 to be here. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.000 Yeah, this is just such a fantastic bit of alien 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:25.840 history that I feel like not a lot of people know. 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:30.520 So it all began in actually June nineteen seventy nine, 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.959 so literally like a couple of months after the movie 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.760 came out with Alien the Illustrated Story, which was a 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:43.000 direct adaptation of Dan O'Bannon's Alien screenplay by two heavyweights, 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:46.840 Archie Goodwin and Walt Simonson. The early graphic novel was 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.520 actually published by Heavy Metal, which is another thing I 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:50.640 feel like nobody knows. 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:52.960 Best known for their magazine of the same. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:56.720 Name that specialized in boundary defying sci fi with strong 0:01:56.800 --> 0:02:00.840 visual sensibilities, this Alien comic was actually formatted like a 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:04.240 lot of other graphic novels of the time, taking influence 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.680 from the European graphic album back Desstina style, so it 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.560 was much bigger. It utilized wider magazine sized pages as 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.120 opposed to most graphic novels that are now made at 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:17.400 like a standard comic book size. It's also really cool 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:19.560 because they did a reprint of it like a few 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:20.040 years ago. 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.480 That's huge. That's massive hardcover books. 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.000 So yeah, I mean what Simon's in an Archie Goodwin 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:27.920 You're talking about, like at the time, two of the 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.680 biggest creators, So I feel like from the origins of 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.000 this they knew that they had something that would translate 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:37.400 to the medium really well, have you ever read an 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:38.480 alien comic book? 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:38.840 Common? 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.399 You know, I have not, but I have seen them 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.960 when I'm walking around the comic book shop, and I 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.840 do wonder, I have wondered to myself, would I enjoy this? 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:47.560 Yeah? 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.000 I think there's just so many that you probably would 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.800 find one that you have. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:57.880 I gravitate towards anything like Vamparella. Love me some Vamparella. 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:01.320 I gravitate towards Catwoman comic. But I should check out 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:02.280 the alien comics. 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.920 Yes, well, you're going to be very happy because spoiler alert, guys, 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.239 we're going to get into some wild crossovers and. 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:12.760 There is a Vamparella Aliens crossover. Carmen so very good excited. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.440 So At the time of the. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.960 First Alien comic coming out in seventy nine, Archie Goodwin 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:22.960 was the writer and editor of Marvel's Star Wars comics, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:26.280 a series that not only helped popularize the infamous space 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.600 opera franchise for the Masses, but also saved Marvel's struggling 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.080 publishing efforts at the time. Simonson, who is like a 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.920 legend and a we're big fans of him at the podcast, 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.360 had worked a year earlier with Goodwin on Star Wars sixteen, 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.960 an issue notable for the first appearance of fan fave 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:47.440 character Bella Valance, who we will talk more about later. 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.840 He would later go on to become the writer artist 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.280 of the Star Wars series, but first he delivered the 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.920 moody and evocative visuals on this version of Alien that 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:00.840 placed a somewhat different emphasis on certain parts of the 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:04.560 story than the signature slow burn of Ridley Scott's film. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:08.480 But it wouldn't be until almost ten years later that 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.040 Alien Comics returned, this time under the purview of a 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:16.040 fledgling indie publisher, Dark Horse Comics, who everyone probably knows 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:19.680 best for hell Boy and the small company would take 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.880 great care of the Alien franchise, opting to produce stories 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:25.640 that slotted in before and after the films instead of 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:30.039 merely adapting the movies, and that is essentially who would 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:35.320 keep publishing Alien comics for the next few decades until 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:41.000 we got to the modern age. So they published classic 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:44.680 single issue comics, meaning that we were getting Alien on 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:49.240 the shelves monthly, and the series were paced to compliment 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.240 that kind of release system, ranging from two to six 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.480 issues in most iterations. Kicked off with a black and 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.160 white sequel to Aliens, which I feel like is a 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:02.200 really great place to se start Carmen or other listeners 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.560 because you get the direct sequel and then they did 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.479 a sequel in color. There is a murderer's row of 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:13.800 famous talent involved. Over thirty years you're talking about, dark 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.600 Horse was bringing in everyone like Sam Keith, who did 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.520 the Max Kelly Jones, who did the very famous Elseworld 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:24.279 story where Batman becomes a vampire while fighting Dracula. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.120 You add Richard Corbyn, a legend. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.040 That great, fucking serious. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.599 Yeah, so good, Doug Monkey, Mike Mignola, the creator of 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:35.039 hell Boy, and so many more luminary talents. 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:36.560 The list just goes on and on. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.080 Wait, Rosie, can I ask you? 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:39.480 Oh yeah, yeah please? 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.320 Okay, So Arian just popped a great question in the chat. 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:44.919 Were the dark Horse comics considered cannon? 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:49.840 I would say that they were licensed, so they were 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.960 always approved. So I would say that probably if you 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.960 go on the fan wikis and stuff, they would be 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.279 considered to be a cannon. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.520 Now do I know, I don't know one hundred percent. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.600 A can There are multiple cannons for Aliens. 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.080 You know what I'm saying that the comic books were 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.159 canon to the point where, like they would say, you know, 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:12.840 kind of like how we think of I would guess 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:16.480 I would think about it this way. If you think 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.919 about Marvel comics, right, and the Marvel movies, there's like 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.920 the MCU canon and the comic book canon, right, And 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.560 these Alien comics did go on for long enough that 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:28.200 I believe that they count as having their own canon. 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.360 But I would also say that because for a long time, 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:36.120 until Ridley Scott came back with Prometheus, for a long 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.719 time there hadn't been a lot of Alien stuff, So 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.279 this probably was seen as direct canon. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.640 I would say for a lot of fans, which often 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.919 is where are ideas of canon come from? 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.320 Do the comics that all affect what's happening in the 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:52.599 movie canon at all? 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:52.920 Like? 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:53.400 Did those now? 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.640 I would say no, because the truth is there isn't 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.240 really even the movie canon I was going to say, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.920 is very much. They never had like a you know, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.800 as Legendary does now who make the Godilla movies they 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.160 have a mythology team, or the MCU they have the Parliament. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.360 But with Alien, I think it was more that it 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.760 was a fantastic movie that was then owned by a 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.560 studio who were like, well, let's make Alien three and 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.600 bring in David Fincher and not even let him make 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:24.680 his craziest version. 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:25.960 So I think the idea. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.080 Of canon in the nineties, eighties and nineties was like 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.880 much looser than now, where I feel like we are 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.360 deeply invested in canon. But I'd say for a lot 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:38.040 of people, especially kids who maybe hadn't even seen the 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.840 Alien movies, I would say that this was probably the 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:47.000 canon that they knew, and there are overarching stories. And 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.360 also something really interesting is a lot of the comics 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.720 would then be adapted into novels. That was the impact 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:58.520 they had, and there is a thriving alien fiction canon 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.080 of books that were published in this world. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.760 It's really interesting because it usually goes the other way, 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.040 where you get a book that's adapted into a comic. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.680 And it was really interesting because it's really a testament 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:13.080 to kind of the care and detail that was put 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.880 into the law building of the Dark Horse line, which was, 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:19.080 like you know, it. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:24.080 Was known for big alien stories. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.440 But also I would say the biggest thing, which we're 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:30.240 going to get a little bit deeper into, is the crossovers. Okay, 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:35.200 because they about fifteen years after the movie came out. 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:41.960 They made a Predator crossover which oh not yea though. 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.160 Exactly not AVP, which we all love, but this is 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:50.160 pre dating AVP wow, And it was in dark Horse Presents, 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.760 which was their signature kind of anthology. It came out 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:58.440 dark Horse Presents thirty six and super fans will notice 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.200 that nineteen eighty nine means this is the first time 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.600 the Predator and the Alien crossed over, further kind of 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.400 cementing that groundbreaking tradition of the dark Horse era, and 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:12.280 that would go unlikely to become I would say the 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.520 most famous thing about these comics because by the mid 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:20.880 nineties dark Horse had worked out a deal of. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.080 Some kind with DC. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:28.119 So by the nineties you had DC crossovers with Aliens 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.520 that began with of course the pinnacle of DC, it 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.760 was Superman versus Aliens. I also had it interesting that 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:39.440 they went for the aliens. It was always aliens rather 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.080 than Alien. I would have gone for Alien, but I 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.400 get it. They're saying there's more than one's enomor, like, 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:48.640 don't worry. So Superman Versus Aliens is like a three 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:53.079 issue comics series, little mini series where Superman kind of 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.440 learns about some signals coming from space and along with 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:02.200 the help of Lex Corp, shocking, he realizes their Kryptonian 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:08.920 distress calls and they essentially go and they want to 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.920 help the Kryptonians and they send a space station and 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.040 guess what dun done. 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.360 There are aliens and face huggers and. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:26.679 Also some weird stuff where like both Kara and Superman 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:32.319 are infested with like special chest bursters, so no aliens 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:36.880 will attack them, and then Superman like teleports the chest 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:40.640 bursters out of their bodies. Of course, of course, guys. 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.960 So that was the first one. And as you can tell, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.959 something that I think was very cool about these when 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:47.880 you can really start to see they are not cannon 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.200 to the movies. This is an era before the movies 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.679 were really defining everything, so you could just do the 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.840 most bonkers stuff like they were. Like, this is just 0:10:57.880 --> 0:10:58.480 a crossover. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.440 It costs a lot to say. All these spaceships out. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:06.960 To keep getting infected by xenomorphs, so please listen to 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:26.520 some man. There were so many different crossovers with aliens 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.320 and all of them are absolutely bonkers. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.560 The next one was Batman Aliens. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.720 It's interesting though Superman Superman versus Aliens but then Batman 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:40.000 slash aliens, so you get anything out of the name difference. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:44.760 Here Batman, he is leaving Gotham, he's looking for a 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:50.760 missing Wayne Enterprises geologist, heads to the Guatemala Mexican border 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:56.199 and runs into some xenomorphs who are just chilling and now, 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.000 yeah at the border, what are they doing there? 0:11:59.000 --> 0:11:59.440 Okay? 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.920 Yeah, so you're telling me that Bruce Wayne Batman himself 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:07.560 is going and doing the search and rescue for the 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:08.840 Wayne Corporation. 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:15.199 I'm sharcked, but I'm assuming that they're probably like dating. Okay, 0:12:15.640 --> 0:12:17.600 that would be I'm like Batman's probably like he's like, 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.480 this is my girlfriend, because otherwise why he he's invested. Yeah, 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.680 there is like, of course this is very like ninety ship. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.559 So there's like he's like working. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.319 With a group of special forces. 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.600 And he's like getting face huger samples where I'm like, 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.480 I do not think Batman should do that. Also, this 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.839 one is very iconic because you get like a weird 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.800 xenomorph crocodile hybrid. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:42.800 Oh I love that. 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.040 And this is like this has got Yeah, this has 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.720 got like a very iconic moment to where he like 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.640 loses that he uses this is a this is a 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.440 good Oh that is bad ass. Yeah, it's really cool 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:01.360 right and alien. Yeah, it's very very wild to me 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:06.680 because they are like he like uses the blood to 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:10.880 drop it through the acid bud, their acid blood, and 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.760 he uses it to weaken the floor to like drop 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.160 the crocodile into a volcano. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:18.160 So like good for resourceful he is. I feel like 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:19.160 that's actually something. 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:21.959 He's got a giant spear on his tail. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:23.839 That's just how it is. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.800 He looks so cool, guys, like, let's bring him back, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.000 but with an alien head. 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:29.760 Let's bring him back guys. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.000 Okay, So I just need to say as well, this 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.040 is another crazy thing about this. So when you're talking 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.760 about Batman aliens, this is Ron Mars, who is no joke, 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:43.840 like a complete legend, who wrote so much Silver Surfer, 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.680 Green Lantern DC versus Marvel crossovers and then penciled by 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:52.400 Bernie Wrightson, who is like a horror comics legend who 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:53.439 created Swamp Thing. 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.760 So these team ups like they. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:59.719 Were drawing these huge creators because I think people were 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:02.760 excited I would want to write this, you know, like 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.199 it makes sense. Then finally in like two thousand, they 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.680 did Greenland and Versus Aliens and now Versus is spelled out, 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.360 so we've got a third title format. 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.800 This is like a no market confusion here. No, this 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.440 is a issue series. Ron Mars is back. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.080 Good for you, Ron, but he's now illustrated by Rick Leonardi, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.480 who I actually have his art tattoed on my arm. 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.720 He drew my Bover tattoo. And Mike Perkins, who is 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:34.440 another once again like Captain America that he did swamp 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.960 thing again, Like these are just huge creators and stars, 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.160 several green lanterns, including Kyle Rainer, who is definitely the 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:42.160 hot boy at the time. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:43.160 We love Kyle Reiner. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:49.560 It is outside of the DC cannon, but again very 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.040 contested because people were like, well, you're not telling us, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:53.800 And the only reason we kind of know that is 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.400 because there's green lanterns who are alive outside of this 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:01.120 story that don't survive. But yeah, we got all kinds 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:07.960 of green lanterns and a chest Burster announces itself from 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:12.360 a dying green lantern called Baron char and how Jordan's like, boom, 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.720 I'm here and I've got to find out what's going 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.000 on in the DC comics. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:17.600 He'd been dead for a long time, so that was 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:18.440 kind of a big deal. 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.880 But yeah, this is the Green Lanton Ones, which I 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:25.400 would say is not surprising, is much more in depth 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.840 and has to do less set up of how the 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.520 xenomorphs are there because it's a space story, so it 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.480 actually gets very into Green Lantern Law. I would also 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:36.680 say that one has like an extremely cool cover, so 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:42.560 definitely worth checking it out. Okay, next we go to 0:15:42.600 --> 0:15:45.960 the indie crossovers, which kind of really blow my mind. 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:51.400 This stuff was happening. So in the nineties, Jim Lee and. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:55.560 Some other creators who are Mike's and Marx Silvestri, Atom McFarlane, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:16:00.960 Rob Eifeld, wils Potaccio, they came together Jim Valentina to 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:05.520 create Image comics and one of the segments of that 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.640 was Jim Lee's Wildcats, which would become Wildstorm Comics, and 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.360 he created them with Brandon Troy and they did a 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:20.640 Wildcat's Alien What suh because it's always aliens, So Wildcats 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.680 aliens slash. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.680 This is a very classical Yes slash, This is a 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:29.080 slash guys. When we're talking about title format. 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.720 This is actually a very wild one because you have 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:35.960 like now you. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.240 Know there's Witch Blade, a part of the Wildcat. 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.760 Which Blade is not generally like the part of the Wildcats, 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:47.360 but we do get some there is some crossover here 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:48.600 between them. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:54.000 This is a definitely very this is very late nineties. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:55.240 This is your. 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.840 Team who would be known for this, which includes Warren 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.320 Ellis Boo, we don't talk about him anymore, but Chris Browse, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.639 Kevin Nolan, Bill Oakley, so many different massive names at 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.720 the time, and that one is like much more classic. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:12.840 They go away into space and then ship comes back 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:13.840 full as animovs. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.800 Who I mean, who would ever know that that was 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.240 going to happen in an alien's book? 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.000 You you think that Wildcats is the weirdest crossover. 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:28.400 Incorrect, guys, because next you have Judge Dread versus the 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:34.400 best crossover I know, Judge Dread versus Aliens Incubus, which 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.840 is actually a sequel to Predator Judge. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.159 Dread Wow Witch. 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:45.639 I will within a sequel crazy comic books. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:49.560 I will say that something is really cool, something really 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:53.040 cool about it is The Predator comics have been one 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:59.120 of the most ongoing crossover potential series in comics. There's 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:02.320 even a Predator Archie Comics, which is I think just 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.720 one of the best things you can read. It's it's 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:09.160 such a joy. Yeah, it's really really fun and silly, 0:18:09.359 --> 0:18:11.960 and they really go out of the box with them. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:15.280 So yeah, Judge Dread versus Aliens. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.399 And the reason it's called Incubus is, as super producer 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.639 Aaron has pointed out, Incubus is the code name for 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.400 the plan that a space pirate mister Bones has. He's 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.119 bringing the xenomorphs to Megacity one to get revenge on 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.840 the judges, and honestly, who can blame him because those 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:37.639 judges they really suck. Obviously in this book we are given, 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.080 we're like, oh the judges, they got to stop them. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:42.960 But I feel like in every other Judge Dreads or 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.520 they'll probably be like, good for the aliens, good for 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.200 mister Bones, like do your best. So we get Judge 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:53.199 Dread and Judge Santas who are infected by chest burners, 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:56.040 but of course they're able to, you know, get chest 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:02.360 bursters removed. They're aliens definitely are like slightly less deadly. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.880 In these crossovers. I would say, because you can't kill. 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:12.640 Some of the most famous people, you can't kill Judge Dread. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.840 In a comic the way, you can kill off every 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.359 character apart from Ripley in the original Alien. But you know, 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.080 that's why we love comics, because no one ever really dies. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.679 I'm seeing here on the Google that there was a 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:29.159 follow up to this that was Predator Versus Judge Dread 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:30.520 versus Aliens. 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:32.879 Yes, you do get a lot of those we also, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.000 if I'm not mistaken, I deeply remember. 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.760 Yeah. Would they love to do like a double crossover? 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:40.800 Like that's amazing? 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:41.480 Yeah. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.280 As Aaron pointed out, the Wildcats was the first one 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:49.120 that was then followed by a sequel overkill that was Witchblade, 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.400 Aliens The Darkness and Predator. 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:53.240 Wow. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:54.879 So the best thing about. 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.840 Most of these comics too, is they've all been collected 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.359 or you can find them in a backish you been 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.719 in your comic shop. I have collected a lot of 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:06.560 the big crossover comics like this because they overprinted them 0:20:06.880 --> 0:20:12.880 and we can easily find those issues in the back 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:15.960 issue bins. Now, Carmen, this one is especially for you 0:20:16.280 --> 0:20:23.320 because it's Aliens slash Vampirella. Yes, yes, yes, yes, And 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:29.760 this is like fantastic. You're talking about a delightful crossover. 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.960 I mean it's perfect. It's this mix of like. 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:38.720 Camp and fantastic, also notable because it amazing. Yeah, the 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:40.440 covers are super super cool. 0:20:40.960 --> 0:20:43.479 This is a later one because it's like twenty fifteen, 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:48.680 twenty sixteen, but also written by a woman that's rare 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:54.920 Karina Beco, pencil by Javier Garcia Miranda and lettered by 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.199 Simon Boland. And the really cool thing about this is 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.879 this is actually one of the few alien comics that 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.400 shows other aliens than just the xenomorphs. 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.280 Oh yeahycle yeah. 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:12.439 And also just like he's having some outrageous like just 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:17.119 some alien adventures are occurring, and obviously this is a 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.560 I love these kind of setups because I feel like 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.520 I really relate to them as a creator. This starts 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:27.200 when Vamparella is just investigating a suspicious cave. Sometimes when 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.239 you meet they're like they're like, how are you going 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:31.720 to bring Vamparella in the aliens together? And you're like, 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:34.760 you know what, she just investigating a suspicious cave, guys, 0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:36.960 that's just how she just she's. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:38.440 Like, what's going on in that cave? Or guess what 0:21:38.720 --> 0:21:40.520 xenomorph eggs it's giving? 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:44.720 Yeah, yeah, yeah, fifties B horror film and yeah, I 0:21:44.840 --> 0:21:45.560 want the movie. 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:46.760 It sounds delightful. 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:51.000 Yes, I'm seeing that she faces off with a queen'senomorph 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.520 an issue. Yes, vibe, it looks like that's yeah. 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.080 And the really cool thing about that is like the 0:21:56.160 --> 0:22:00.399 face Hugget impregnates Vamparella and comes out as the xenomorph queen. 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.280 So it's like to become the queen, it has to 0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.720 be inside Vamparella. Also, wow. 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:10.640 Favorite thing that happens is she survives and then she's 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.520 like Nosferatus awakened, Babe, Now we've gotta fight. I gotta 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.840 fight with nos Faro against Aliens. They were like, not 0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:22.240 enough is going on in this comic, so we need 0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:24.119 to make we need to make that happen. 0:22:24.400 --> 0:22:26.440 And this is this is the really funny thing. 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:29.280 So if you look at the comics that were being 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:32.159 published by Dark Horse in their Crossover comics line, this 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:36.280 is just preceded by Archie versus Predator, so vibes like, 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:40.320 the vibe change here is so huge, then followed by 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:47.040 another Predator versus Judge, Dread versus Aliens Splice and Dice Wow. 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:47.520 Wow. 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.240