1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a A, the 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: b a q A what you saying? The b a 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: q eight with Manda, the b a q A with 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Tiffan A, the b a q a A bright ambition 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: question and answers. 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: You have questions, we have some answers. 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: Although we are not your attorney, we are not your 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: financial advisor, but we are two really smart brown girls 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: that know a thing or two about business, career and 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: personal finance. 11 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: So let your questions come on in. 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: But we're excited, right Mandy, this time we're having a 13 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: little different twist what we gonna do this week. 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 3: You're putting me in the hot seat excited slash nervous. 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 3: So we decided because Tiff and I are, well, you're 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 3: at a point where you are raising your rates as 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 3: you should be and on this whole new like level, 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: playing like this whole new playing field as a as 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: a as a badass business owner, as an ex expert, 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: as a source all those things, as a speaker, and 21 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: have lots of questions about, like, okay, how to go 22 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: about negotiating rate increases and having those awkward conversations. And 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: your girl is a negotiating queen, and I love it, 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: so I can't wait to hear your questions. So today's 25 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 3: show is going to be Tiffany grilling me with her 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: all of her negotiating questions from the budgetista. And then 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: next week I'm excited because as I am building my 28 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: business Bandy Money and I'm about to relaunch Mandy money 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: Makers and all these exciting things, I am going to 30 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: take my questions to Tiffany about how to approach this 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 3: online business empire that I hope to build, and y'all 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: get to sit and hopefully you'll learn from us answering 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: each other. Yeah, so this is going to be a 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: little bit different, a little bit juicy. 35 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, before we. 36 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: Get started, should we mention our exciting news for them 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: as well? 38 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: Yes, because we're not. It's not just gonna be me 39 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: and Mandy hot seating each other. You guys are going 40 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: to get a chance to enter into the studios and 41 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: hot seat up. So that's just gonna look like literally, 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: like you know, one of you'll multiple BA Family listeners. 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: You're coming into the studio now at the same time, 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: but coming into the virtual studio and then peppering us 45 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: with career, business and personal finance questions as well, so 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna still we're gonna mix that in 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: with our normal ba QA you know the way we're 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: a template that we normally do, but we just wanted 49 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: to change it up and get a chance to like 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: hear from you guys. And if you're wanting, man, it's 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: gonna share. 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If 76 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: you love us, okay, and then our producer will be 77 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: in touch if you get an opportunity to be on 78 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: the show. So you know, don't don't be don't don't 79 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: be crazy, okay, just be normal, be yourself. And yeah, 80 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: we're excited. 81 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: Yes, So this came about like this, like me, this 82 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: kind of like Q and A of them doing Mandy 83 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: CAMDBAT Because so you guys know already that Mandy is 84 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: like this master negotiator. She's been helping women, you know, 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: make more and ask for more, and most recently she 86 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: came out with this scripts product, which I was like, 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I need it because I struggle with negotiating. 88 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: And so it's nineteen scripts right to help you. What 89 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: is the nineteenth script to help. 90 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: You nineteen word for word scripts to help you negotiate 91 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: without leaving money on the table. So what to say 92 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: when you are submitting a counter offer? I have a 93 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: literal template counteroffer letter, but I also have many scripts 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: for what to say if you're on the phone and 95 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 3: your recruiter is like, oh, but you said that this 96 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: you know, salary was fine when we first talked, or 97 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: you know, I don't know about salaries being negotiable? What 98 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: about equity? Like those types of conversations that happen. And this, 99 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: this guide came about after over a year of talking 100 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: to hundreds of women across the country doing the One 101 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: I Want coaching, doing my full coaching program Mandy money 102 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: Makers and get an understanding that one of the biggest 103 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: reasons women's women are not negotiating women of color especially 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: is that we just don't know what to say and 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 3: it's awkward enough, like even if you do know what's 106 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: important to negotiate, you get stuck. I'm like, so, now, 107 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 3: who's going to tell me what to say? So I 108 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 3: have solved that issue for you guys, and already and 109 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 3: hearing that one of the people who've down one of 110 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: the women who downloaded the guides earned an additional three 111 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. That's on a recent job offer. 112 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: It's so if you want to get to my office, 113 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: but if you want to get it, it's mandyscripts dot 114 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: com right. 115 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Mandy Moneyscripts dot com, Mandy Money, Mandy Money. 116 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: Tiffany's always like, sell the girl. What's the link at 117 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: mandymoneyscripts dot com to pick up your copy. You can 118 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: also go to Mandy money dot com slash shop. It's 119 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: out there. 120 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: But so I wanted to, like, just I want to 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: kind of give you that like preface, because that's I 122 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: want you to understand how this came about. Because when 123 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: Mandy with sharing that during our last episode, I was like, 124 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: hold up, wait a minute, let me get some time 125 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: in it, because so now now than so normally typically 126 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: what I do, Mandy, So now like you know, y'all 127 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: just gonna have to listening because I got some real questions. Right, So, 128 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: typically if you do what every year, what I do, 129 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Mandy is that I raise my race just off GP. 130 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: I call it just the GP race, you know, general principle. 131 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: Because I'm like, it's a new year, child inflation is 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: out here inflating, you got to pay more yesterday's price 133 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: in today's price. But then there are moments when something 134 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: happens that you know, it feels like it makes sense 135 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: to raise the raids because I'm quote unquote more visibly valuable, 136 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: you know. And so with my new Netflix documentary Get 137 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Smart with Money, it has just really transformed the way, 138 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, I think people. It really just elevated the 139 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: brand to another level, the budgetnista, and so I'm just 140 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: so I'm struggling with because I'm already not inexpensive, you know, 141 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, well. 142 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: One, how do why? Because I'm not gonna lie. 143 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Usually when I raise my raids, Mandy, there's no rhym 144 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: or reason. I just be like that sounds cute. Yeah, right, 145 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: So one first question I have is how do I 146 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: really figure out what makes sense? You know, like how 147 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: much more I should be charging based upon? Like what 148 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: are my metrics I should be looking at that you suggest? 149 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think first and foremost. And this goes 150 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: for anyone who's negotiating and trying to increase your your 151 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: perception of your value, because sometimes it doesn't feel like 152 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: you yourself have changed so much. You've always been doing this, right, Like, 153 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 3: your your skill set have grows, probably incrementally all the time. 154 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: But you know, you know what you know, and you 155 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: do what you do, and you've been doing it for 156 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: a long time. You're very good at it. So what 157 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: helps is when I flip it and I'm like, so, 158 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: how much more valuable is your time today than it was, 159 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: you know, a year ago. That's really what it comes 160 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: comes to when, like when right now, with this documentary 161 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: coming out, and of course with the book so well 162 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: and everything else that you have going on, you have 163 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 3: more and more opportunities coming your way, and your time 164 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 3: is still limited. So I mean that's just simple economics. 165 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: Limited supply of time, more demand for that time means 166 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 3: that your time is valued much much more as far 167 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: as what to aim for. So I think that one 168 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 3: of the things we talked about. I don't know how 169 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: specific you're going to get with numbers when we have 170 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: all of our bea fan listening. 171 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: None only here do you know me? So, if I'm 172 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: main candidate right now, my keynote is fifty thousand dollars 173 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: and that does not include travel, It does not include 174 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: accommodations or anything like that. And if you're wanting me 175 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: to like, because sometimes the keynote also involves me like 176 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: staying for because there's also like a travel day where 177 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: if I'm staying there for like you know, like the 178 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: twenty four hours of you know, forty eight hours, it's 179 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand dollars per travel day. So honestly, to do 180 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: a whole event, it could be upwards of like seventy 181 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: one thousand, but just a raw, raw. 182 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: Keynote is fifty. 183 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: And my financial advisor, Angelie I was just sharing with her, like, oh, 184 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm at fifteen and I think I'm gonna push it 185 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: to sixty five, maybe seventy. 186 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: And she was like, or one hundred. 187 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, that seems like a lot. She said, 188 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: because Ajulie works with high net worth individuals. And she 189 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: said a handful of them also like you know, speak 190 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: or whatever. They don't do what I do particularly, but 191 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: like do their own speaking or whatever. And she said, 192 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: and almost all of them are at one hundred thousand 193 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: or more. And you know the difference between them and you, Tiffany, 194 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: And I was like no. She was like, they're white, 195 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: and they're mail was a favorite, and they accomplished less 196 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: than you have. And I was like, say what now, 197 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: she said, Tiffany, not one of them is a New 198 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: York Times bestseller, not one of them has a thing 199 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: on Netflix, not that one of them has gotten a 200 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: law pass, not one of them has been on the 201 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: cover of Money magazine. Not what she was like listing 202 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: all of the things that I've accomplished, and she was 203 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: just like, and yet you're charging half, you know, She's like, 204 00:09:58,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: do I think that they're overcharging? No? 205 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: Do I think that you're under absolutely? And so I 206 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: was like, it just seemed like so much, you know, 207 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: like I'm trying to break out. I know this sounds 208 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: crazy cause you might be listening. 209 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: Like what tivity the hell you been fifteen years in 210 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: the game, But I just it just seems like, so 211 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: what if someone because this has happened, I will say, 212 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: I know that fifty is too low, because this year alone, 213 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: about six or so companies have paid fifty as if 214 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: it was like pocket change. They want to Yeah, sure, 215 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: And I was like, ah, you know, but there was 216 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: one company particularly that gave me a little bit of 217 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 1: pushback about the pricing being a little high, and so 218 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: I guess I'm afraid if I push it to that 219 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: one hundred. What do I do because I'm always fumbling 220 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: when people push back, So what what do you say 221 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: when someone's like that seems high? You know, like what 222 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: is that script? 223 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 3: Well, that's when the fun began. That's when the fun begins. 224 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 3: So the first thing that you said, well, there's a 225 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 3: couple of things. One you did. The best thing possible 226 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: when it comes to understanding your value is talking to 227 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 3: other people at that level or a source of information 228 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: that will give you a sense of what other people 229 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: in your field. Because it's kind of like trying to 230 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: price a house right right now, you're in a hot neighborhood, 231 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,479 Speaker 3: like to the budget needs to mansion, Like a Starbucks 232 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: just opened up, there's a Trader Joe's down the down 233 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: the street. It seems like like you're you're on the 234 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: up and up, you know what I mean. They just 235 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 3: built a nice lush park in the backyard. Like maybe 236 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 3: you just add in an addition to the house. I 237 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: don't know, like your house, your your value has gone 238 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 3: up because of the upgrades, right, So think of it 239 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: that way as well. But at the same time, it's 240 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: very subjective. It's like what will other people pay for 241 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 3: this and you look at the comps, right, So you 242 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: talking to Angelie and finding out what those other people 243 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: in her network are earning. That's you looking at comparable 244 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: homes in the neighborhood and seeing what they're selling for. 245 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: That's just savvy, right, that's just smart. That's the first 246 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: smart tactic and the first thing I'll all point out. 247 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: The second thing is like when it comes to the 248 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: fact that those six those six companies were like fifty 249 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 3: k yeah, sure, here's the information, here's a contract sign it. 250 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: That's when you are, you know, sharing your numbers in 251 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 3: a negotiation and there's no counter it's just mm okay. 252 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 3: That should tell you that you're coming in too low. 253 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: And I know that this seems counterintuitive because we want 254 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 3: Our tendency is to want to avoid friction, right. We 255 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: want to like say what we want and have them 256 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: be like sure and then hey, no awkwardness, just all fine. 257 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: But when you get to the point where they're pushing back, 258 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: that to me is a good indication. It feels uncomfortable 259 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: because you're like, oh shit, now I have to say 260 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,199 Speaker 3: something back. But this is a great indication that you're 261 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: getting close, Like you're getting in that ballpark that you're 262 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: coming in at a level where maybe it's not so 263 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: easy for them to just say, oh, yeah, that's within 264 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 3: my budget. They may need to take a couple of 265 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: additional steps to get approval for the rate that you're 266 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: offering them. And that's fine. So at this point, if 267 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: they say it depends on if they're saying absolutely not, 268 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: our budget is firm, et cetera. But if all they 269 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: say is, you know, that's a bit higher than we 270 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: were anticipating, And then what's the question after that is like, 271 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 3: that's a bit higher than we anticipate. It isn't negotiable? 272 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yes, that is the question after that. 273 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. 274 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: So then at that point, I think it's important to 275 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 3: be firm. And here's why. In your case, you have 276 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities coming to you. You can afford 277 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: for one of those opportunities to be out of your 278 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: to be out, for you to be out of their budget, 279 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: and for them to say no. And this is what 280 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: I have said to many clients, which is that when 281 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: you say no and you create a boundary there and 282 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: you're willing to walk away, you have the most leverage 283 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: in a negotiation and it's important that the person hears 284 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 3: no because the person you're talking to you're someone who's 285 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: probably speaking to people on the marketing side of a company. 286 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: So they have a certain amount of a marketing budget 287 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 3: that they can spend on an annual basis, and commonly 288 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: those budgets are decided, you know, Q four for the 289 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: following year. So they may be coming to you like 290 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: in June or July, but their budget's already been approved 291 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 3: for the whole of twenty twenty two. And yeah, and 292 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: maybe if they said yes to your one hundred k, 293 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: that's fifty k less that they have to do the 294 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 3: other things that they were planning to do, you know 295 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: what I mean. But it's about like, it's about planting 296 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 3: that seed in their mind that Tiffany's price is much 297 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 3: higher than we can afford. Because I promise you, when 298 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: they go into their Q four planning for the following year, 299 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: they're going to have to put together their proposal for 300 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: their budget and they're gonna up it because they're like, 301 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: if we really want Tiffany to come back for this 302 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: event next year, or to come for this event next year, 303 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 3: you know, her price is not fifty k anymore. It's 304 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: one hundred K. So if they really want you, that's well, 305 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: they'll put in that request for more. And I know 306 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: that that means walking away from fifty K. That's not nothing. 307 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: It's still a lot of money. Right, But if you 308 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 3: can afford to do that because your time is more 309 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: valuable and you were getting paid, commenceate with that value. 310 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: Right, You're right, you know it, And that that actually, 311 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: like is super super helpful because here's what I would notice, 312 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: and it explains what I call the gap. Right, So 313 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: what I notice is every time I would raise my rates, 314 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: there would be a gap in earnings because there were 315 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: companies scrambling to one. It was like the people who 316 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: couldn't afford me for real, for real had to fall off, 317 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: and the people that might be able to afford me 318 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: had to almost like readjust their budget to your point. 319 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's six months or a year from 320 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: now and then so they'd be like a gap and 321 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I'm making my money, you 322 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: know what I've asked for. And so that makes sense 323 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: that they're right, because sometimes I think we forget that, 324 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: you know, companies, because I know we do. We set 325 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: apart our we do our budget the year before. So 326 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: if something is way out of budget, unless you're like 327 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: this huge corporation where fifty thousand is nothing, you know, 328 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: if something is way out of budget, then you might 329 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: be like, I have to see you in the next 330 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: go round. But if I don't set my number in 331 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: a way that respects my time, then they won't respect 332 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: my time. You know, it'll be like, well, what's wrong 333 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: with Tiffany? You know, like because everybody else out here 334 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: charge dot dot dot. You know, that was really that 335 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: was really helpful because that is something you wouldn't think 336 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: that I would struggle with that. 337 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: But the truth is, I don't have this is not 338 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: me two to my own horn. 339 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: There're not too many people in the in the in 340 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: the space that I'm in making that I know, you 341 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like unfortunately, you know, even with 342 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: some of my mentors, they haven't reached this level of 343 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: earning as far as like he knows some things that 344 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, So it's not a ton of people to 345 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: reach out to it. And honestly, everyone's not you know, 346 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: and rightfully, so everybody can have their own business. 347 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: You know, I just like to be talking about my money. 348 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: But you know, everyone doesn't also want to share necessarily, 349 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: you know, And so it's just like to ask the 350 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: questions like, well. 351 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: How much are you making? I don't even know what's normal. 352 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what a lot is. 353 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 3: We got to find those rooms. That's the thing. You 354 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: need to be in a different room in the house, now, 355 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And I think it's really 356 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: important to also understand, like, of course there's period to 357 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: peer networking, but we all should have people who are 358 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: like levels above where we are now to help us understand. 359 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: So I'm thinking like, and of course, I don't think 360 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: in your case, it has to be someone who's talking 361 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 3: about personal finance, you know, or or business or whatever 362 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: it is that you're getting tapped to do keynotes for. 363 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: But who are the most you know, the the most 364 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: common keynotes who are being tapped by you know, major 365 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 3: corporations and maybe even asking your clients, Hey, so could 366 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: you just share with me who are the more recent 367 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: people that you guys have hired or anyone that you 368 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 3: know who's who tends to get hired by companies and 369 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 3: connecting with them, you know, even like they should be 370 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: honored to be reached out to you, you know, reached 371 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: out by you. 372 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I just think it's like, you know, 373 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: my girl lovely, she speaks at a lot of corporations. 374 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I want to reach out and. 375 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 2: Be like, yeah, you know, I don't know. You know, 376 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: we talked about it maybe some years back, but I not. 377 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: I mean, we talk, you know, like regularly, but I haven't. 378 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: Actually I didn't think about that because she, you know, 379 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: does amazing work with corporations, and You're right, I could 380 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: just feel like, hey, you know, what do you make it? 381 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: And she's in those rooms where she knows. Was like, 382 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: that's hot paid to be like, well, girl making this. 383 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: But honestly, from what I say, you need to be 384 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: making this, I am. You know, I'm gona put that. 385 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: Let me put a little have a notebook, if you're 386 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: not taking notes, rewinding, start again, and so I'm gonna 387 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: put on. 388 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 3: I know that these are like levels that that are 389 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: not super relatable to everyone, but the core messages who 390 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: can you reach to? Who is in rooms that maybe 391 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 3: you don't have access to or is aware and maybe 392 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: it's lovey and maybe it's a colleague that you used 393 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: to work with. I had a great mentor you guys, 394 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: you guys know we both know Nick from Magnified Money. Yeah, 395 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: my favorite, my favorite white ally Nick who had a 396 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: who had a who had a serious impact on me 397 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: in my negotiating style because he had come from the 398 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 3: big bank industry. He worked for like bark places like 399 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,959 Speaker 3: Barclays and these big credit card companies before he and 400 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 3: I met, and he used to make it seem so casual, like, oh, 401 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: that's a lot, that's not that much, you know, when 402 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: I when I'd be handling negotiations with people that I 403 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 3: was hiring, Well, let's just give her a couple extra thousand, 404 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: let's just give her. Why are we why are we 405 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 3: fighting over ten thousand dollars? Like it's a lot of money. 406 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: Like he would say those types of things, and I'd 407 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: be like, oh okay, And that helped me normalize. And 408 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: so the more you can sort of invite voices in 409 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 3: that will help you think a little bit bigger then. 410 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: And it's not meant to always be comfortable, like it'll 411 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: take some time before it to get you know, before 412 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: it gets comfortable. That's why Angelie is like, yeah, this 413 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 3: guy makes that because she's seeing it time and time. 414 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: Again, time and time again. She was like, girlrmalized. 415 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: You know. 416 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: I was over here, like, you know, I'm just make 417 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 2: a little fifty. She was like, I know you think 418 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: that's a big deal. It's not. 419 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: I was like, whit what She helpoed me brorack like, 420 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: oh that's cute. Yeah, you're under by like a half. 421 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick breaking break and we'll 422 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: be right back with more B a Q and A. 423 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: I feel like the biggest takeaways for me, I'm saying 424 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: for myself, but also y'all listening, are one consider how 425 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: much more valuable my time is. That was That was 426 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: a huge takeaway for me. Two understand, like to really 427 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: understand like my monetary value as far as my time, 428 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, reach out to a reputable source if I 429 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: don't have direct access like somebody like an angelie who's 430 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: seeing ton a ton of these people, or directly to 431 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: my friend Lovey who does this all the time. Three 432 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: look at comps, you know, like who else is in 433 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: this industry that are that's comparable in reaching out to 434 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: them modesty and being honest and being like, I do 435 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: you mind sharing what you're making? So something else I 436 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: took away that if you get no counter. This is 437 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: just across the board, you get no counter them. As 438 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: you're coming into law, there should be some resistance. You know. 439 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: Something else that I took away too was that pushback 440 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: means my numbers are close, so it's okay to get 441 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: pushed back. Sometimes there's pushback is honestly, that's totally out 442 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: of our budget. You know, it's like a little small. 443 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: School and that we don't have it. Boom okay. 444 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: But then if it's like is there any you know, 445 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: is there any wiggle room here? It means yes, that 446 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: wiggle room or is it negotiable? Means that there's some 447 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: money there and they're just trying to tap into it. 448 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: What else I took away is to be firm and yeah, no, 449 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: this was honestly, this was so helpful. I know that typically, 450 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, y'all know Mandy as like the career coach 451 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to negotiating. But what I've learned is 452 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: that negotiating is negotiating is negotiating, and it's a skill 453 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: set that I am still practicing, you know, despite all 454 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: that I've done thus far. It's not something that comes 455 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: supernatural to me. And I hope you take away that 456 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: like you can learn so much. So one of the 457 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: things I was just listening to our podcast interview with 458 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: Ray of informally of Insecure and now she's got rap shit, 459 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: that's her new HBO. So so she said something years ago. 460 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: You know, we all know she's hilarious. She was like, man, 461 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: everybody want a network vertically upward. She was like, Beyonce 462 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: is busy, bitch. She was like, how about you network horizontally? 463 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: She said, you know some dope people that you went 464 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: to school with, that you connect with, that you like, 465 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: they know things too, And thought, I hope that a 466 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: major takeaway is that this is horizontal networking, you know, 467 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: like and like it's obviously it's definitely. 468 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: Great for saying that I am horizontal to you. 469 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but it is because we're friends and 470 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: you out like the city Trump off. Because here's the 471 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: thing that I call it situationally important. Right, So, like, 472 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: if I'm on a plane and I'm having a heart 473 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: attack and former President of Barack Obama's on the plane 474 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: and a doctor from Irvington, New Jersey's on the plane. 475 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: As much as I love the former president, I don't 476 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: give a what bring me that doctor from Irvington. I 477 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: don't care if if he was a veterinarian, bring me that, 478 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: Bring me the veterinarian, because he's he's closer to the 479 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: type of help I need in that moment in time, 480 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: and that nobody is important over all things at all times. 481 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: Like when you came home, I know, Rio was like 482 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: mommy litterally you could be standing next to Michelle Obama. 483 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: He's like, who that lady moms here? Because in that situation, 484 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: you are most important. And so it's the same thing 485 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: with like knowledge and access to it that like, yes, 486 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: certainly I have been in business for a long time, 487 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: but there. 488 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: I don't know all the things. This is literally like 489 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: one of your your your like the thing. 490 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: That you specialize in, and so I don't specialize in this, 491 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: and so you are the doctor on the plane. You know, 492 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: when it comes to this conversation, you know, you know 493 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: what I mean, preschool teacher. I'll be coming up with 494 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: the analogies. 495 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: No, but this was I don't say this is really 496 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: hard to teach or something. 497 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: But honestly, my biggest thing. I'm actually going to put 498 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: this on a sticky. How much more valuable is my time? 499 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: When I tell you maybe that hit me in the gut, like, 500 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: you know what, Tiffy, your time is even more valuable 501 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: because I'm getting pitched all the time, Bigger and bigger 502 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: things are coming. I'm like, Tiffy, your time is more valuable. 503 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: You can charge the hunter k because your time is 504 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: more valuable. It's you know, sometimes it's hard to make 505 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: the connection of like, well why should I be charging more? 506 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: This is why I'm gonna put it on the sticky 507 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: and put it in my you know, in a place 508 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 1: where I can see it. Like, Tiffany, this is why 509 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: you charge more because your time is way more valuable 510 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: because you've you've expanded the value. 511 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: That you bring to the table. And so like this 512 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: was so good, Mandrid It's like a do this, like 513 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 2: it's just for a living or something. 514 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: And yes, I do. And you also had some responses 515 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 3: that I hear all the time, Like I can count 516 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: like just dozens of times I have been talking to 517 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 3: someone during a coaching call and they're like, oh, I 518 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 3: do know this one person. They write their name down 519 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: and I'm like yes, it's like we do have we 520 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: do have people in our network. We feel powerless, but 521 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: once you talk it through with someone you can start 522 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: to see. It's about who can you connect with and 523 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 3: those connections bay Baye, like that is the powerful stuff. 524 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 3: At Finncom last week, I had a three minute conversation 525 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: in the hallway with someone who was blown away it 526 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 3: has way more followers than me, like like a million 527 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: times more on TikTok and was blown away by what 528 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 3: I had negotiated for a speaking engagement. And I was like, 529 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: but you know what, that felt good because I had 530 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 3: nothing to compare myself too. I'm just out here, like 531 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: and we need to be talking about these things, you know, 532 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 3: and understanding. And it's about getting over that little hump 533 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 3: of the awkwardness and the discomfort. And what I like 534 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 3: to say is like it's always going to be a 535 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: little bit awkward. You just got to like push through. 536 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 3: And that's why I love the scripts. Right, So I 537 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: talk to you about like having your assistant rose and 538 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: you just like write down, like here's some boilerplate responses 539 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: we're going to send so that there's never like that 540 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: hemming and hawing over what to say, and then you 541 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 3: you know, you have something to start from. But thanks 542 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: for the question. 543 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: Now that's got So I'm gonna give myself some homework. 544 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: My homework is I'm going to update my rate sheet. 545 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: That is my homework. Any other homework you want to 546 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: give me? 547 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: Yes, So, oh, this is one thing I didn't get 548 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: to say. Go ahead and let your past clients know, 549 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: because even if they haven't reached out to you right now, 550 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: we talked about them planning their budgets for the next year, right, 551 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 3: so go ahead and let them know, girl, go ahead 552 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: and let them know. It's like sending a little like, hey, 553 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 3: like a little Christmas card in September. Here's what we've 554 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 3: been up to. 555 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: Here are the raids. 556 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 3: Hope everyone's well. 557 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: That wishes I was like, that is so old, manie. 558 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: This is honestly, I'm like giggling because you're right because 559 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: the year's not up yet. And if they're gonna get 560 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: their money together and get it together now, oh okay, 561 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna. 562 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: The big ideas for next year are happening now, especially 563 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: for the types of talks that you're that you're getting. 564 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 3: You know, there's and maybe even like now, but the 565 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: year after that now, so definitely the ones that you 566 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 3: really enjoy doing that you want to do again, reach 567 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: out to them the other thing is you know, understanding, 568 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: like if you have to just say no period to something, 569 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: that that's okay and that you may hear from them again. 570 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: I got offered a panel. I got a LinkedIn request 571 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 3: from someone wanting me to speak on a panel. It's 572 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: not that far from me. They wanted to pay me 573 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 3: fifty dollars. It's just down it's not that far and 574 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 3: the honorarium was fifty dollars and it's one of those nonprofits. 575 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 3: And I thought about it. I thought about it, and 576 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 3: even I had to be like, no, just say no, Mandy, 577 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 3: why are you struggling? And so I sent the message 578 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, honestly, no, here's my minimum. 579 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: And the response back was thank you for letting me know. 580 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: I'm currently pushing for a bigger budget and I will 581 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: pass this along. That's why it's powerful. I could have 582 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: done it for fifty dollars because at the end of 583 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 3: the day, yeah, sure, I'll do it whatever. But I 584 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 3: think it's so much more powerful for the next people 585 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: behind me too, to let them know that this ain't 586 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 3: it like my time is. 587 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: So I feel like if I'm gonna do it either, 588 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: if I'm going to work for damn near for free. 589 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: I'll do it for free. 590 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: Meaning if I'm just voluncing myself, I'm like nothing, yeah, 591 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: the whole thing, because it's not true. 592 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: I tell myself that all the time. 593 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, Tiffany, if you gonna do it for free, 594 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: do it for free for real, just because you're like, 595 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, like the Girls Scout Troops. I've helped my 596 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: friends Girls Scout Troops get their their financial literacy badges. 597 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: Obviously I'm not looking for her to pay me, but 598 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: it's free. 599 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: This like uh kind of so it's like, no, it's 600 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: either free or it's not, which you know, I know 601 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people who don't do anything for free, 602 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: which that's your business, as Auntie Tap would say. But 603 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 1: you know, I don't mind that I'm volunteering time for 604 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: like homeless shelters, especially women's shelters, or Girls Scout Troops. 605 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: Those things are fine. But yeah, like this kind of like, well, 606 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: I know you said fifty, but we have a thousand. 607 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: It's like, in other words, you don't have it's free, 608 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: you know. 609 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: In other words, so I homework and yes, so just 610 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 3: don't have to work more nugget well more nugget. One 611 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 3: more nugget. Here's another way you can sort of reverse 612 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 3: engineer your rate because I know you don't work every 613 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: day like and you're a big reason why I love 614 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 3: a calendar block and not working on Fridays and random days. 615 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: So the number of days you can actually work in 616 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: a year is very limited because you have other things 617 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 3: that you value. You value your family and traveling and 618 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 3: doing things for free, right, So getting to give back 619 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 3: to your community, I know is really important to you. 620 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 3: So if you reverse engineer, you know your goal income 621 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 3: for your business for the budgetiesta for the year, and 622 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 3: then how many days hours you actually have to get there, 623 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 3: then that can kind of give you a sense of 624 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: per event. Or if I'm going to do ten keynotes 625 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: to get me to this goal that I have for 626 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: my keynote revenue, man, how much should I be charging 627 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: for each one? So if your goal is a million 628 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 3: dollars of keynotes, and timing wise, you know with the 629 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: amount of time it takes to put into presenting a keynote, 630 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: with the travel days and the recovery time, because if 631 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: you're like me, you need to you need a long 632 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: recovery after a big presentation like how many of those 633 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: can you really do in a year, and then maybe 634 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: it's you know, ten fifteen keynotes and then kind of 635 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 3: go backward from there to figure out how much one 636 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 3: of those could be worth to you, as well as 637 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: sort of going out there. It's a combination of all 638 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 3: these things that as well as going out and getting 639 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: the comps to kind of get to a number that 640 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: feels right. It's valuing your time, and it's valuing you 641 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: compared to your peers. 642 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: Okay, let that I just write it down. So I'm 643 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: just writing down my jock. My homework is update my 644 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: rade sheet, let past clients know, and then reverse engineer. 645 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: I like that to be like, if I want to 646 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: get to a million dollars of speaking based upon like 647 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going on vacation four times, I'm gonna 648 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: I don't work Fridays, I don't work Wednesdays, and I 649 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: really don't work weekends unless I'm like I'm traveling or whatever. 650 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: So like it leads me, leads me with a limited 651 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: number of time. So it's like, if that's the number, 652 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: what do I have to make par speaking? I like 653 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: that that's this is good or whatever. If you guys 654 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: like this format, Like I said, we said earlier that 655 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: so next week many will be asking me questions. 656 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: She had no idea what question? I mean, I told 657 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 2: her in generals negotiating. 658 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: Questions, But I really had no idea. I was nervous. 659 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we, like I said, you know, this is honestly, 660 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: what's so great is that this is how like Manny 661 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: and I chat anyway, like we'll just be like and 662 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: then so what's going to do about that one? And 663 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: so I hope that the takeaway from here is one 664 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: how to negotiate across the board, whether it's business, whether 665 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: it's at your job whatever. That looks like like there's 666 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: just some basic tips here. Two, I hope a big 667 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: takeaway is that networking horizontally is so helpful, you know, 668 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: because like you don't there are people in your life 669 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: that's the doctor on the plane for that particular subject matter. 670 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: And you know, so you know, no one is a 671 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: doctor the most important person in every single room. 672 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 2: That just doesn't happen. 673 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: But certainly when there's somebody who knows some way more 674 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: than you about particular topics and lean into them and 675 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: then be a resource to the places that you no more. 676 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: And then three, you know, Like, here's the thing. Nothing 677 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: works unless you work, you know, so literally, I'm going 678 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: to do my homework, like the number one thing. I'm 679 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna do the first two right away. I'm gonna update 680 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: my rate sheet today and I'm gonna let class. I'm 681 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: gonna let my agent know, Hey, let these clients know 682 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: these are the new numbers. And then I'm gonna work 683 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: on this week, you know, reverse engineering, but taking action quickly. 684 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: I like simple and souon. 685 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: So those two things I can do instantly soon as 686 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: we jump off, I'm gonna do that. And then I'm 687 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: my scripts because I tried to buy it last week 688 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: but Mandy was not ready, but she's ready now I'm 689 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna buy. 690 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: My Moneyscripts dot com mm hm and so because I 691 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 3: bought your book and Molly Moore again the other night. 692 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: We no, this is great. So if you are, you know, 693 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: first of all, we'd love to hear. 694 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: Like, did you you know tweet us We're Branda the 695 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: BA podcast, Mandy on my I'm the Budjanisa, Mandy is 696 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: Amanda you Mandy money on Twitter too? 697 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: No, because they won't let me change it on Mandy 698 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: Woodruff on Twitter Okay. 699 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: So tweet us if you like b a q A. 700 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: Mandy's gonna be asking me questions next week. I won't 701 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: know what they are. I'll just be popping on. And 702 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: then if you want to come on and you want 703 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: to put us in the hot seat and you want 704 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: to be live on on camera and studio with us, 705 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: like you know from where you live. 706 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: We would love that. 707 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: Go to our ig we are brand Ambition podcast on Instagram. 708 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: Send us a voice note with your question with the 709 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: types of questions you want to ask and a little 710 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: bit more about yourself than why you want to come 711 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: on and Emani our producer is going to go through 712 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: them and and we'd love to have you on, you know. So, 713 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: like I said, we'll do a mix of these. We'll 714 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: do a mix of you guys coming on. We'll also 715 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: do a mix of our normal BAQ. I will will 716 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: take your written questions, you know, so we can keep 717 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: it spicy over here. 718 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: Okay, seven years, we need to spice it up, keeping 719 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: f you know. But this is a many Thanks so 720 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 3: much for listening. Thank you so much, Manny, this was 721 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: so how Oh you're welcome. I can't wait to hear 722 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 3: I want well First of all, I feel like hundre 723 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: k is gonna be easy. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, when. 724 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: I get my first one, I'm gonna tell you. I'll 725 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: come on and be I won't say who, because you 726 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: know the people be bad when you be tell dabs. 727 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: But I'll be like I did, I'll tell you when 728 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: I get my first hundred k. Like I'm speaking, I mean, 729 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: I've made obviously well over that, but like other contracts, 730 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: but like specifically for a keynote, when I get that, 731 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you know awesome. 732 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: And don't forget to check out Get Smart with Money, y'all, 733 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 3: Tiffany's new Netflix documentary, which is available at Netflix dot com. 734 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: Don't forget to tweet her use the hashtag get Smart 735 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 3: with Money to let everyone know that you are loving 736 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: it and. 737 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 2: It give me two thumbs up? All right? 738 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, two thumbs up? 739 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: What else? 740 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 3: Watch the whole thing? Yes, tell a friend, tell a friend, Yes, 741 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: tweet all that. Yes, Hey, ba fam we could not 742 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 3: this show without your support or the support of our 743 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: team behind the scenes. The Brown Emission podcast is produced 744 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 3: by Cumulus Podcast Network. It's edited by the wonderful Imani 745 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: Crosby and produced by Tanya Bustos. Dennis Stimplinsky is our 746 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 3: in house tech guru, and I am Bandy Woodard Santos, 747 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 3: your co host, and I will see y'all next week