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Speaker 2: Oh Still live on a Monday edition of Cleveland Bron's Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great Z and

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Speaker 2: my friend. The business of the NFL is booming, Brother. No,

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Speaker 2: Tom Fuller, we got right to it. We got a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff going on, including stuff that impacts guys

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Speaker 2: who played here, and I suppose that is where we

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Speaker 2: need to start. Because one thing that we have talked

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Speaker 2: about a lot over the last two months is the

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Speaker 2: fact that this organization, this Defensive Stats, desperately wanted Devin

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Speaker 2: Bush to return to be a Cleveland Brown. He will

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Speaker 2: not return to be a Cleveland Brown. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this is quote legal tampering. This is not legal. The

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Speaker 2: legal tampering already.

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Speaker 3: Took place on Yeah. Wait, yeah, this is this is now.

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Speaker 2: Hey. We've agreed to a deal, and nothing can become

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Speaker 2: official because of the way that all of this works.

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Speaker 2: But all of that deels widely reported.

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Speaker 3: Breaking news right now even more, former Chargers guard Zion

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Speaker 3: Johnson has reached agreement today on a three or forty

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Speaker 3: nine and a half a million dollar deal including thirty

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Speaker 3: two point four million guaranteed with the Cleveland Browns, per

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Speaker 3: his agents Alan Herman and Jared Fox. So while Devin

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Speaker 3: Bush is headed to Chicago, the Browns will get and

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Speaker 3: Devin Bush on a three year, thirty million deal, twenty

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Speaker 3: one guaranteed Chicago. The Browns do address their offensive line.

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Speaker 3: So with Titus Howard and now Zion Johnson, who is

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Speaker 3: one of the names when we went through that list,

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Speaker 3: that was one of the names that we highlighted. The

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Speaker 3: Browns get two guys who can play guard, one who's

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Speaker 3: attacked Tye Howard, probably play right tackle. Zion Johnson now

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Speaker 3: replaces either Teller or Botonio at guard.

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Speaker 2: And that's how this is going to go today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there will be stuff that pops throughout the day. The

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Speaker 2: preamble there was about Devin Bush obviously, as you alluded to,

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Speaker 2: and that's somebody that we obviously desperately wanted back. You

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Speaker 2: will not be back he signs. As Ze just said,

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Speaker 2: there three years thirty million in Chicago, twenty one million

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Speaker 2: guaranteed on that and then as he just Spenson, this

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Speaker 2: There's been some big ticket items at the top of this.

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Speaker 2: And remember none of this stuff is going to be official,

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Speaker 2: So this is stuff that is being reported right now,

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Speaker 2: and then the official stuff will what come? What when's

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Speaker 2: the new league gear start?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Tomorrow Wednesday? Wednesday is the new league gear? We

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Speaker 3: get like two days this league of tampering, then the

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Speaker 3: new league gear at four o'clock on Wednesday. That's big

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Speaker 3: money for Zion Johnson. Sixteen a year guaranteed for the

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Speaker 3: first two years, basically sixteen point two a year. Even

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Speaker 3: more than that. Let's look, that's big money for Zion Johnson.

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Speaker 3: By the way, there's been big.

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Speaker 2: Let's do this before we get into all this stuff.

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Speaker 2: There's something that I think you can take away from

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Speaker 2: the first six hours of NFL free agency. I pretty

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Speaker 2: feel like you're close, you're going, You're going. And there

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Speaker 2: are examples of this in San Francisco. There's an example

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Speaker 2: especially juxtaposed to a draft next year that is I'm

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Speaker 3: What's wild there as a team like the Raiders who was

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Speaker 2: That I get. They gave Naylor huge money. I get

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's Brady's influence, like, we are going to

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Speaker 3: Which means Ronnie Hickman will be a Cleveland Brown. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Last three years, he's played left guard. Rookie heear he

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Speaker 3: Like I said, left guard the last three seasons, and

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Speaker 3: you wonder if that's we haven't heard anything official on

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Speaker 2: I guess I've only ever thought of Joel as a

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Speaker 3: So I like the Mike Evans one. I think that's

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Speaker 3: great for the Niners. Great, that is just something that

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Speaker 3: it's a big exodus for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that maybe told you. I mean, that's look,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure that Tampa Bay wanted nothing more

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Speaker 2: with Mike Evans, the Rams what they've already done in

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Speaker 2: well that's in the top fifteen holy smokes man. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: By the way, the Bucks I think made a big

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Speaker 3: mistake a year ago when they gave Chris Godwin three

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Speaker 3: year sixty six million you would have won. I don't

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Speaker 3: was very nice usually, but the Bucks gave three year

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Speaker 3: sixty six million, forty four guaranteed, uh guaranteeing his twenty

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Speaker 3: So they paid him more than Mike Evans just got Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans. Thinks it is.

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Speaker 3: It's possible, but I just think you gave a guy

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Speaker 3: you're just being like, yeah, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was the year.

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Speaker 2: so you have that happening today as well. Alec Pierce

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Speaker 2: This number is nuts. I don't know what the guarantee

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Speaker 2: he's led the leaguetting yards per catch two years in

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Speaker 3: He's big. We loved them coming out if you want

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Speaker 2: I remember, but that is a big, massive number I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't even have fifty catches, no.

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Speaker 2: Forty seven in fact, buddy, Right, So that's that's a

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Speaker 2: lot to give on that. I don't know what the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that helps, and you know, yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: I mean Titus Howard could be your right tackle. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna go through them just really really quickly here.

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Speaker 3: But I'm pretty sure. So Linderbaum is gone, right, Lennerbaum's gone,

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Speaker 3: still out there. Zion Johnson we signed. He was number

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Speaker 3: twenty nine on Matt Bowen's top out. That Jesus, you

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Speaker 3: just stop it, please the aviators. I mean, it is

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Speaker 2: Day, Sunday day.

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Speaker 3: It's a Sunday, Holy smokes, oh man, That's how you

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Speaker 2: Ind my god, Connor have opened tampering. My god.

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Speaker 3: Connor McGovern signed somewhere. Didn't he stay? Did he stay

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's been so much that's happened today.

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Speaker 3: crossed him off the list. Vera Tucker is still out

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Speaker 3: there as another guard. Chris Paul is a name that

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Speaker 3: the Browns had been linked to that we had highlighted here.

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Speaker 3: And if you signed Chris Paul, that means that Potonio

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Speaker 4: Connor McGovern got a four year, fifty two million dollars

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Speaker 4: deal to re sign with the Bills. Yeah, for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And Tyler Biattish has signed with the Chargers and

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Speaker 3: he's a center, So there's really not the centers really

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Speaker 3: To me, it's either a tackle or it's a it's

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Speaker 3: the Browns. Now you're gonna have to replace him either

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Speaker 3: in free agency or the draft. But you know, you're

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Speaker 3: already young in that room. You're already you're pretty inexperienced

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Speaker 2: Think Swessinger, you could you could put a C on Sweassnger.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be the captain. But now you're talking

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Speaker 3: on that one. Zion Johnson certainly an interesting prospect, should

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Speaker 3: there was a lot of talk, you know, that that

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Speaker 3: there ten million dollars a year. That's not even a

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Speaker 2: Would be possible totally. So yeah, that one is very disappointing.

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Speaker 2: This has been a crazy day, and we'll keep you

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Speaker 2: next two hours. Of course, some massive moves today. I

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Speaker 3: What's crazy about that is he is now the highest

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Speaker 3: a year. Do you know what the number two center

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say sixteen.

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Speaker 3: He's eighteen, So he's one hundred and fifty percent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so do you think don't you think this is

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Speaker 3: He's really good, and he had he was the consensus

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Speaker 3: is big, big, big, money there. Yeah, evens are not

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Speaker 3: happy to have lost him.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, because now you know you can do the

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Speaker 2: to be very, very difficult for them because there just

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Speaker 2: aren't guys like that out in the market. The biggest

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Speaker 2: So this is the Broncos model with Russell Wilson that

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Speaker 3: Same and then it makes me wonder, what's Arizona doing

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Speaker 3: I Why isn't it Why wasn't Arizona in on that.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe maybe the people who talk about this lead

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it will for coming out of the combine,

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Speaker 3: it was thirty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was three or three for ninety or three

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Speaker 2: This is thirty percent less than that.

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Speaker 3: Yep, thirty percent less than that. So that is it's

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Speaker 3: wasn't Arizona in on that? A couple of others that

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Speaker 3: for three years sixty three million, forty two guaranteed, My goodness,

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Speaker 2: Uh, then we even know who that is. And you

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Speaker 2: Well, there it is. There's an arms race. It's happening

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Speaker 3: Charlie Kohler, who I thought might be in play for

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Speaker 3: so he will be the blocking compliment to Gadson there,

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Speaker 3: which is interesting. Zion Johnson last year struggle a little

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Speaker 2: On the Dolphins front. I do wonder if the Tua

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Speaker 3: Two we're going to sign for the league minimum.

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Speaker 2: That's I know. Does Tua end up in Arizona for

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Speaker 3: Yes they are. What is to already the Falcons have

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Speaker 2: They'll have him compete.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Penix, I think if you bring him in there

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Speaker 2: do it as a competition from the standpoint of Penix

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Speaker 2: is a first round pick two years ago by you,

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Speaker 2: I know, different regime, all of it. But I I

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Speaker 2: to me that I would feel like they would do

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Speaker 2: that as a competition. But I could be wrong. I

438
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Speaker 2: could be wrong. I bet they do it the way

439
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Speaker 2: the Steelers did it with Russell Wilson and Fields and

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Speaker 2: all that like, have them compete, and then it feels

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Speaker 2: like Kyler to the Vikings to me, yep, so end

442
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Speaker 2: of an era there, because that was tunk for Tua,

443
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 2: that tank for two of that was all of that.

444
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,360
Speaker 2: And and now he's gone and so Malik Willis goes there.

445
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: We were right on that, by the way. So Mac

446
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Speaker 2: Jones potentially Mac Jones Arizona absolutely, by the.

447
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 3: Way, another linebacker to write down real quickly. Jeremy Fowler

448
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 3: linking linebacker Cayden Ellis to the Browns here spent the

449
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 3: past three seasons in Atlanta, overlapped with Mike Rutenberg as well,

450
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Speaker 3: could be a possible replacement for Devin Bush. And I'm

451
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Speaker 3: gonna pull up his numbers real quickly here Cayden Ellis. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 3: it's fun. How how much is going on here? Teams?

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Speaker 3: You typically don't win things in the off season, or

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Speaker 3: certainly at for day one of free agency. Now you

455
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Speaker 3: would say to yourself that the Seahawks probably felt like

456
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Speaker 3: they did because the Seahawks did a tremendous job getting

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold and now are the Super Bowl champions.

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Speaker 2: Yea.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this new thing with Pro Football Reference

460
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Speaker 3: and needing to verify that I'm a human is outrageous

461
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Speaker 3: to me, Like how many bots are spending their time

462
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Speaker 3: to go to Pro Football Reference.

463
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Speaker 2: It adds another five seconds to every search from them.

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Speaker 2: So I've been just going to ESPN because I know

465
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Speaker 2: it doesn't have quite the data. At least it's quicker.

466
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Speaker 3: Caden Ellis three straight years of one hundred plus tackles,

467
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Speaker 3: averaging ten tackles for a loss over the last three years.

468
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Speaker 3: During that span, he's also wracked up twelve and a

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Speaker 3: half sacks, two seventy three, three hundred and eighty tackles,

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Speaker 3: twelve and a half sacks, twelve passes defense, two picks,

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Speaker 3: a couple of hose fumbles. Okay, those are pretty good numbers. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 3: in Atlanta, he's been a machine and he's from Idaho,

473
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Speaker 3: went to Idaho six two two forty. Definitely could be

474
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Speaker 3: a will linebacker. Obviously a big football family. Christian Ellis,

475
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Speaker 3: son of Luther Ellis from NFL player as well a

476
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Speaker 3: lot of players in that family. So that could be

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Speaker 3: somebody that the Browns looked to as a possible replacement

478
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Speaker 3: there for Devin Bush. He's been an iron man, played

479
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Speaker 3: defense last few years ninety five, ninety eight and one

480
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Speaker 3: hundred percent of the snap So that's somebody that obviously,

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Speaker 3: I think Mike Rutenberg would have a great affection for,

482
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Speaker 3: and that would make a lot of sense. You'd place

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Speaker 3: a hunter tackle guy with a hunter tackle guy who's

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Speaker 3: a pretty goo pass rusher, blitzer and can cover.

485
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Speaker 2: And then that happens. As we continue to monitor everything

486
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Speaker 2: that's happening in real time over the weekend, the blockbuster happened.

487
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Speaker 2: It happened, of course, because of course it would in

488
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Speaker 2: our division. The Ravens acquiring Edge Max Crosby. The Raiders

489
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Speaker 2: acquire first round picks fourteenth overall in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 2: and at twenty twenty seven first as well. Is this

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Speaker 2: the first time DaCosta has ever traded a one with

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Speaker 2: the Ravens? Have they ever traded a one? And he

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Speaker 2: gave it to Yes? I trust you, man, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: he's properly sourced. Off the top of my head, that's

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Speaker 2: the first thing I thought of when I saw this

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Speaker 2: happen over the weekend. That's just not something they do.

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Speaker 2: They always draft their guys. Maybe I'm wrong, but in

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Speaker 2: my head, I'm just thinking, I don't remember them ever

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Speaker 2: trading a one to acquire a player. I've seen him

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Speaker 2: do free agency before. They've done that a lot. Oftentimes,

501
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: it's a place guys want to play at the end

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Speaker 2: of their career.

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Speaker 3: According to ESPN, it marks the first time in the

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Speaker 3: Ravens thirty one year history that they've traded a first

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Speaker 3: round pick for a player. Okay, a decent read on

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Speaker 3: that they may have moved up and around the first round,

507
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Speaker 3: but in terms of you can have our one and

508
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Speaker 3: by the way, they gave up their next two for Crosby. Now,

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Speaker 3: how much does that get kneecapped by the Linderbomb news today?

510
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Speaker 2: A little? Definitely may some of the shine off of it,

511
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Speaker 2: for sure. Obviously they're all in a can be with Crosby.

512
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Speaker 2: But now they can't replace Linderbaum with the first round pick, certainly,

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Speaker 2: so they're gonna do that free agency or via They don't.

514
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Speaker 2: You don't future plan for losing Linderbomb no rating for

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Speaker 2: the rest of his career.

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Speaker 3: They had to know what was coming.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but your plan b ain't that? So that that's

518
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Speaker 2: a hit. But the Crosby addition is massive. I don't

519
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: know what's reel and what's not, but I did. I

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Speaker 2: did listen to a Oh my gosh, Jamar Chase. Did

521
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Speaker 2: you hear his stuff?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No, it sounded like him. I don't know what's real

524
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: or what's AI anymore, but it sounded like him. But

525
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: the idea for the rest of us of the vision,

526
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Speaker 2: like really, really I need that, Joe Burry.

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Speaker 3: You got Max Crosby twice, TJ Watt twice and Miles

528
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Speaker 3: Garrett twice. Yeah, that's no fun.

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Speaker 2: That's no fun. That's no fun at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the Ravens have lost five players in the

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Speaker 4: first three hours. Linderbaum, Isaiah Likely, Draymond Jones. They're punter

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Speaker 4: Jordan Stout, and now tight end Charlie Kohler.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Linderbom's the one. That's the one that that stinks

534
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: because now and I do think that's what this all is,

535
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: and there aren't enough interior offense. There are enough offensive

536
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 2: line in period. Yeah, Like that's a problem all the

537
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Speaker 2: way down to youth sports, Like you're not developing enough

538
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: of them. Kids don't want to do it, they haven't

539
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 2: made it as cool as they need to. There aren't

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Speaker 2: enough of them. I see this in the college game,

541
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: like they're overpaying five star offensive line recruit. They're overpaying

542
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: him in the portal because there aren't enough of them.

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Speaker 2: And I think you're seeing it now play out at

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00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: the very highest level of the sports. So some of

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00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: these offensive line money that's being thrown out in the

546
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Speaker 2: middle of the interior the defensive line are astronomical figures. Yep.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to hear from Jamar Chase? Do you

548
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 4: want to hear that?

549
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: Is it real?

550
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: Be careful then is that real.

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Speaker 2: They played it? I couldn't tell if it they played

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Speaker 2: on an RBS this morning, coming from like a livestream

553
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: while he was playing a video game. So that's that's

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00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: what I saw too. There is I'm guessings that you

555
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: played on an RBS that it's been properly beeped. Yes,

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00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: it has been properly beat Okay, I couldn't tell. I

557
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: mean it's it's he's playing someone's playing a video game.

558
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: Who claims. But I don't know what's real or not.

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Speaker 2: I'll leave it up to you. You're the head haun

560
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: show boss.

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00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 4: Well it's bleeved. Sure, why not reckless speculation.

562
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: It's possible that this is Jamar Chase reacting to that.

563
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 2: It's possible, very possible. Go ahead, Joe just texting me.

564
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: We're evens traded for Max Crosby.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, brother, I'm highly pissed right now.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god.

567
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: How do we let this go through division?

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00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god?

570
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: Bo.

571
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Speaker 3: So he's not happy. Reason, By the way, the Ravens

572
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: fans should not be happy either. Think about this. The

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00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 3: Ravens declined Tyler Linderbaum's fifty year option. They didn't use

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Speaker 3: the franchise tag because they thought it was out of

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Speaker 3: line for the center market. At twenty five point eight million,

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00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: Linderbaum just got twenty seven per million million per year.

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00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, they could have had him, They could have had him.

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00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: He called their bluff and he won bit uh bigly. Yeah.

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00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: No state tax in Nevada too, So that'll that'll help.

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00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 3: By the way, can anybody young gabriel in there, can

581
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Speaker 3: you tell me what the heck is going on with

582
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: Donna Kelce's renovation? Why is that everywhere all over my

583
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: Twitter feed right now? I'm trying to get some NFL use.

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00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: It tells me that your algorithm says that you need

585
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: Donna kelcey that maybe when you're at home you're spending

586
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: a lot of time. She was on traders family. See,

587
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: she was to all of it. Unfortunately she'll not a

588
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: good trader, I can tell you. In the division, Bengals

589
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: are signing former chief safety Brian Cook three years forty

590
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Speaker 2: and a half from Tom Pelisaro.

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Speaker 4: On that they don't need ten more defensive players and

592
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Speaker 4: then they'll be respectable.

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Speaker 2: You almost have to have like the our lads list

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00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: up to just you know how g Man's got that

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00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: thing in there of you know, our depth chart and

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00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: our roster like what it looks like. It's hard to

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00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: keep track of who's been signed and who hasn't. Yes,

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00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,479
Speaker 2: but the Bengals getting some help on the back end

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00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: of their defense there. So here's what we are going

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Speaker 2: to do. We're going to take a quick reset and

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00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: we'll get you updated on all of this stuff. Again,

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00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: this stuff happening very fast, very furious. The big news

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Speaker 2: for us of the last thirty minutes, of course, the

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Speaker 2: news that Devin Bush has reportedly agreed to terms. Do

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Speaker 2: I have to say reportedly on all of this? I mean,

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00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: every NFL source is writing this. Can't we just say

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00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: he's signing but until Wednesday at four o'cack? Okay, but

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Speaker 2: Devin Bush is signing with the Bears. Three years, thirty million,

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Speaker 2: twenty one million of it guaranteed. And then we have

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Speaker 2: gone ahead and added some offensive line help in a big,

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Speaker 2: big way. What's this gentleman's name, Zion Grady? Is that

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Speaker 2: what you said?

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Speaker 3: Who are lying to?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: Who did we just sign?

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Speaker 3: Zion Johnson?

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Speaker 2: Zion Johnson? I don't know how, Zion. We had so

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Speaker 2: many so much happening here in the first half hour.

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Speaker 2: Who's Zion Grady? Did he play at Georgia or something?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, name something Zion Johnson three years, forty

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Speaker 2: nine and a half for the interior of the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: A lot of names, a lot of moves. It's all

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Speaker 2: of big signings today in terms as we are concerned,

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Speaker 2: out the door goes Devin Bush three years thirty million

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Speaker 2: with the Bears. That's a tough one. We know how

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Speaker 2: really wanted to keep him. We know what he meant

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Speaker 2: So he will go to the Bears at three years

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Speaker 2: thirty million. Coming in is Zion Johnson three years forty

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Speaker 2: nine and half. Thirty two point four guaranteed on that deal.

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Speaker 2: point four for him guaranteed three p forty nine point

649
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: five on the total value of that deal. He is

650
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: an interior offensive lineman, as he said, if you're just

651
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: joining us in the first segment. Spent the last three

652
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 2: years at left guard. I don't know if you can

653
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: read into that or not, but he has vacillated between

654
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: left and right.

655
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's been reliable in the sense of his availability.

656
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 3: He's only missed two games and four seasons, over one

657
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: thousand snaps all four of his seasons in the NFL.

658
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: That is a lot of money, though is to me,

659
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: that is a bet, and the Browns have done this

660
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: in the past, a bet that you believe his best

661
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: football is ahead of him, because that is not he

662
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 3: has not played to a level thus far that would

663
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: warrant that contract. So you believe that he is going

664
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: to be better than what you have seen there. Because listen,

665
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: let's be honest about one of the knocks on the

666
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: Chargers was their offensive line once Shawn Slater went down,

667
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 3: they had and Joe Alt it was, oh man, it's

668
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: tough there. So and that was one of the knocks

669
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: also on the Houston Texans. So the Browns obviously feel

670
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: like they have identified things in their offensive scheme, and

671
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: that with George Warhap who obviously signed off on Howard

672
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: since he had coached him in twenty twenty two. I

673
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: believe it was in Houston that they're going to get

674
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: better play out of these guys. Specifically was Ion Johnson.

675
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: Because that's a lot of money. That's I mean, I

676
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 3: I want to before I speak out a turn that

677
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: is that's a lot of money for a guard. Sixteen million,

678
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: And you know, when I think about the guards that

679
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: we had who Joel Botonio is. You know, seven time

680
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: pro bowler. Yep, you know Joel Botonio's biggest trying to

681
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 3: like a cash breakdown of his career some of these

682
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: career earnings blah blah blah blah blah, Like, I don't

683
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: know Joel Batonio ever made this much in one season.

684
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: His biggest year was one year. His last year was

685
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: one year, fifteen million dollars. So I don't know that

686
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: he's ever made that much. I don't know that certainly.

687
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: I don't think why it ever did either. And those

688
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: are guys who are and obviously look the inflation, the

689
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: cap going up, it means a different. It's very different,

690
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,239
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. But you know, when you think

691
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: about we've had we've come to have great guard play

692
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 3: in our career, you know here with the Browns, certainly

693
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 3: since two thousand and forty one, they would started with

694
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: Botonio and Greco. That that's a big number, like that's

695
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: a that's an attention getting number, and so obviously they

696
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: there's a big feeling that this is somebody who is

697
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: going to ascend. I think, you know going forward, that's

698
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 3: at least what you what you have to think yet.

699
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: Joelotonio's fifteen is the biggest that he had ever gotten

700
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: in a one year fifteen or sixteen in the last

701
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: two years, and in terms of cash paid out. So

702
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: that's a big one.

703
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: That is that. Yeah, that's that's that's good money there.

704
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: And there's been a lot of good money spent. In fact,

705
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: over a billion dollars in free agency already been spent

706
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: around the league. And this is day one of all

707
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: of this. Most of the big fish have been signed.

708
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: There will be some others obviously still out there that'll

709
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: be big, but a lot of the big ones have

710
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: been signed. I'm going to run through you. Just stop

711
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: me when you have something that is either shocking or noteworthy.

712
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: A lot of these are noteworthy. But let's just start

713
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. Kenneth Walker ends up the Super Bowl MVP,

714
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: signing with the Chiefs three years, forty five million. On that.

715
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey, by the way, speaking of your buddy, Donna

716
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: kelse her Son, Travis is going to play one more

717
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: year in Kansas City. He gets he is going to

718
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 2: come back and play in Kansas City.

719
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 3: Go ahead, real quick on the Kenneth Walker fifteen minutes

720
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: just shows that that's why you don't take a running

721
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: back that's there in the first round. You can get

722
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: those Super Bowl MVP who's quite good at for fifteen

723
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 3: million dollars a year. Yes, Devin Bush who just had

724
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: a great season ten million dollars a year. So an

725
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 3: off ball linebacker like Sonny South, somebody's going to do it. Yep,

726
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 3: somebody is going to do it. But that's a lot

727
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 3: of money to pay for that position.

728
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned to Kobe Dean and when you were

729
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: talking about possible, I mean that would be the level

730
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: of I can't remember when Nakcobe was drafted, but yeah,

731
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of what you're And Devin Bush,

732
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: by the way, he was drafted that way out of Michigan.

733
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: He was a top fifteen pick for the Steelers. So

734
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: that's kind of the way that goes. Speaking of Browns,

735
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: this just happening. Former Browns defensive end Cam Thomas reached

736
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: an agreement today with the Falcons one year's three point one.

737
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: So that's Kevin.

738
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: And that was somebody that the Browns wanted to keep,

739
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: I know that. So they were not able to do that.

740
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: It's interesting and some of these cases, I feel like

741
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 3: the Brown since they didn't resign anybody that they are

742
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: you know, they're letting guys get to the market, and

743
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 3: then unfortunately those guys are taking that and they're going.

744
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: So off the defense, Cam Thomas obviously in the roads,

745
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: your fourth defensive end forth the end rotational defensive end,

746
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 2: and then you're starting off ball linebacker in Devin Bush.

747
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: Yes, you've got a hole. That's the You've got a

748
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 3: hole there right now in terms of what I would

749
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: call like our darading, you know thirteen on defense, you

750
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 3: have a hole at will linebacker. You've got you know,

751
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 3: Miles Harden, I guess his Pencilvan is your slock corner.

752
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: But and then your third safety is definitely a hole

753
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: right now. So there are things that you need to

754
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 3: do on that side.

755
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: Some other news happening today the Saints and running back

756
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 2: Travis Etten four years fifty two. What the Saints in

757
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: Travis Etten four years fifty two?

758
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 3: So they had been mocked Jeremiah Love quite a bit.

759
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: That means that they feel in their intelligence either number one,

760
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 3: that they are not either they're not drafting Jeremiah Love. Clearly,

761
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: they're not drafting Jeremiah Love or that they got intel

762
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: that Jeremiah Love is going to be gone well before

763
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: they have an opportunity.

764
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: Also, wonder if that means the end of Alvin Kamorrow

765
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 2: right with the Saints.

766
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

767
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: He's at the End's younger, not as good when Kamara

768
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: was at his prime, obviously, but he's in there.

769
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 3: Sure they're very similar for sure. Yeah the man. Yeah, no,

770
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 3: that's that's a real that's a surprising one to me. Yeah,

771
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: that is a big contract. So he's going to get

772
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 3: to be the guy. That means that in correct me

773
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, But that means that the Jags are

774
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: going to be going with Bagel, Tutin, Root and Tuton.

775
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: See the only other one there.

776
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: Didn't they trade the guy, the guy, the guy who

777
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,720
Speaker 3: was their back up when he just give Tank Bigsby.

778
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 3: They traded him to the Eagles last year.

779
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you almost need you know. So they Jaguars are

780
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: lads to give you an idea of who's left in

781
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: that room. So last year, I mean was a stud

782
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: last year?

783
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure?

784
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

785
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: The Jags rushers last year was at ten one thousand

786
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 3: and seven. And then yeah, Bagel Tuton who was there,

787
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 3: who they drafted last season, average three point seven yards

788
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: of carry. He was their fourth round pick. I mean

789
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 3: that makes me think that they're either going to make

790
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 3: a run at somebody else in free agency. Yeah, they

791
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: traded Tink Bigsby, who was a third round pick a

792
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: couple a year before that, to the Eagles. That's a surprise.

793
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: So they that's a hole there. So that's a team

794
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 3: that could be looking a running back. And I've talked

795
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: to some people who are pretty plugged in at Notre

796
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: Dame and yes, they all have glowing things to say

797
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 3: about Jeremiah Love. But the second running back there, what's

798
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 3: his name? Price?

799
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

800
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: Price, Yeah, at Notre Dame.

801
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah that they're like, it's really not that big of

802
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: a difference. And whoever drafts price is going to be

803
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: very heavy.

804
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 2: They're both studs. Yeah for sure. Big one here, Jalen

805
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: Phillips Edge signs with the Panthers four year, one hundred

806
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: and twenty. That is monstrous, a massive number for him.

807
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: Here's a guy that we talked about a little bit

808
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: in terms of the tight end position, Isaiah Likely with

809
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: the Giants three years, forty seven on the deal for

810
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: that Wandell Robinson. We talked about that. I think that

811
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: this was coming, but this, no, we talked about him

812
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 2: last week. This number is crazy. For seventy eight four

813
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 2: for seventy eight for one Dale Robinson.

814
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 3: That's insane. And this goes back to Okay, okay, you

815
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: got Alec Pierce right, you said what four four one sixteen,

816
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: So that's twenty nine million Wandale Robinson. You just said

817
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 3: what four seventy eight? So basically twenty million? Yeah, so

818
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 3: nineteen and a half. Uh, look at j as Jalen

819
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 3: Naylor on your list there.

820
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 2: Jalen Naylor is not on my list.

821
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 3: Here, Jalen Naylor, I'm pretty sure got three for like

822
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 3: thirty six from the Raiders. Jalen Naylor, three years, thirty five,

823
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: twenty three guaranteed from the Raiders. So put that in perspective. Okay,

824
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: if you love Carnel Tait at six, you're getting a

825
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: player that in an open market, if he is what

826
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: you believe he is, you believe we're talking he's a

827
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: that's a thirty million dollars a year player. Now, tackles

828
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: are there too, get it, one hundred percent, But that

829
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: feels to me like all the more reason to go

830
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 3: ahead and make sure that you get Carnel Tait right there.

831
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: I just think it is a good point out of

832
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: you in terms of the value.

833
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: The value of it, Yeah, the value of it.

834
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: Wide receiver Johan Dotson two years fifteen with the Falcons.

835
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 2: Laramie Tunsel resigns with the Commis two years at sixty

836
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Draymont Jones, speaking of the Ravens, signs for the Patriots

837
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 2: three for thirty nine to Mario Davis the linebacker Jets

838
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: two for twenty two, Linebacker Cole Holcomb two for five

839
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: with the Steelers, Jamal Dean three for thirty six with

840
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: the Steelers, the corner cornerback Trent McDuffie four years, one

841
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty four. That's in correspondence of them acquiring

842
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: him four for one twenty four with the Rams Jayalen

843
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: Watson three for fifty one the corner. So they got

844
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: both of those done, as did the La Rams. A

845
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: Sante Samuel Junior resigns with the Steelers one for four four,

846
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 2: Eric Stokes re signs with the Raiders three for thirty

847
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: and Kobe Bryant signs with the Bears three four forty.

848
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: There is also some trades that have happened here. We

849
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: have the cold strading wide receiver Michael Pittman junior to

850
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: the Steelers in exchange for a late round pick swap.

851
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 2: Pittman then signs a three year, fifty nine million dollar

852
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: deal with the Steelers. So he's did twenty k and

853
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: they will have Pittman. Yeah, there's your three years twenty

854
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: that's your twenty million a year for Pittman. Is the

855
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: reality of that signals to me that the Steelers believe

856
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is coming back.

857
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: It also signals to me that they have a type

858
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: that maybe our Aaron Rodgers has a type that he

859
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 3: likes to throw to, which is big dudes who didn't

860
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: really sell you separate and we're just gonna throw like

861
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 3: back shoulders to show back shoulders all day. Yes, I

862
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: heard that from a very plugged in source about that.

863
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 3: But Pittman's a guy. Last two years, I mean, he

864
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: has average twelve yards of catch since twenty twenty one,

865
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: two years been under ten yards a catch. He's a

866
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: good player, he's a good role player. But that's not

867
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 3: an exciting signing, but I think it helps them. It's tough.

868
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 3: He's a good run blocker in the game.

869
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: It's good pedigree though, yes, former first round pick, and

870
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: it's a guy that you get a late round pick

871
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 2: and then you give him twenty a year and you

872
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: pair him with Metcalf and now you've got two massive

873
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: targets on the outside. You can use the tight ends

874
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: underneath with Friar Booth and all that. And then who

875
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: knows what they do in the slot, but you need

876
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 2: to tell me either they do, but it tells me

877
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: that Rogers.

878
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. And I'm not trying to

879
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: be Steelers GM, but all of a sudden, if they

880
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 3: go inside in Taekwon Thornton and then you have him

881
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 3: as like and you'll put Pittman in as a big

882
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: slot DCN one side, Thornton on the other. Like, I

883
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 3: don't want any part of that. I'd like Taekwon Thornton

884
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 3: to come to us, to be quite frankly, that's somebody

885
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 3: that I've had my eye on for a while because

886
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 3: of his ability to create separation and his ability to

887
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: get down the field. He is somebody that defenses would

888
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: have to pay attention to.

889
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Steelers, former Steelers and Dolphin safety. Makea

890
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: Fitzpatrick to the Jets in exchange for a seventh round pick,

891
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: then a three or forty million dollars with MIKEA fitz Patrick.

892
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: Jets looks to me like Aaron Glenn just wants somebody

893
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: who can speak his language on the back into their defense.

894
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 3: They signed who else, They've made a couple of veterans.

895
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: I don't understand what they're doing, That's what I mean.

896
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 2: Like, you feel like you would make sure that goes

897
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: back to what I said the first segment, Like they

898
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: are absolutely a team that ought to just push the

899
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: chips in and we'll see at the twenty twenty seven draft. Yep,

900
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: Like why would you not do they have five picks

901
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 2: in the next two drafts, make sure one of them

902
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven is number one overall. Absolutely, Like

903
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: you have to make sure that that's nice. Aaron.

904
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: I think what you've got, Aaron Glenn. It feels like

905
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn is a guy that you are. He's trying

906
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: to save his job, right, Yeah, Like how many more

907
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 3: bad he can't have another bad year? They're picking first

908
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 3: next year. Aaron Glenn's gone. Yes, So Aaron Glenn's goals

909
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: are at odds with what the Jets goals probably should be.

910
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so that's a weird.

911
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: So it feels like he's got more influence than you

912
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 3: might have thought though, because these moves that you're talking

913
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: about right here, these are very.

914
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: These feel like moves he asked for.

915
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 3: Yes, these feel like the coaches is having significant input

916
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 3: on said moves.

917
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: The Cowboys and Packers continue to do work. They trade

918
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: Edge Rashan Gary to the Cowboys in exchange for a

919
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven fourth round pick. If you're just joining us.

920
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 3: The Rashan Gary to the Cowboys.

921
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: The Cowboys, Yeah, and.

922
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: They just have them thrown in it in the uh

923
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: Mica trade.

924
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, a twenty twenty seven to fourth

925
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 2: So there you go. There is a lot going on

926
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: the Bengals in the division. Brian Cook signing with the Bengals,

927
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: the safety from Kansas City, so they use that to

928
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: bolster the back end of their defense. So all of

929
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: the and by the way, this stuff just it just

930
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: keeps going. There's gonna be stuff all day long. It's

931
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 2: so funny. I don't remember it like this last year,

932
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: Like am I misremembering like now to stay.

933
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 4: Usually like the first like ninety minutes or two hours

934
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: a little crazy, and then it started to slow down. Yeah,

935
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 4: there's been no slow down none.

936
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: No, no, there really hasn't. Can the actions of what

937
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 2: happened today in with all of this, can they tell

938
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: you anything about how some of these teams view themselves?

939
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I wish it's almost like we need

940
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: a second screen. And here this has been You're right,

941
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: it's more than ever where we have sign team. I

942
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: can't keep I have no concept of what's happened in

943
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 3: a big picture, in a macro level for teams other

944
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: than ours. But like, for example, so things that you're

945
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 3: thinking about Giant signing Tremaine Edmunds to be their Mike linebacker,

946
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: that probably means they're not drafting Sunny Styles at five. Yeah,

947
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 3: so that's kind of so what could they draft five?

948
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 3: They could draft Carnel Tape, Yes they could, which would

949
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: be really annoying. Yes, it would be, and I'm not

950
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 3: for that. No, could they draft Jeremiah Love? I would

951
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 3: be more a fan of that. Sure, you've seen the

952
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: Titans bring in all ex Sala and Day Bowl guys.

953
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: Yep. There.

954
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: I think they're wide open. The Arizona Cardinals signed who

955
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: did they sign? They signed a running back? Is there

956
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 3: like a What you need is like a true free

957
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: agent tracker by team? Yeah, so that I can search

958
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: it by team by all right, I'm gonna see it.

959
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 3: He has got to usually pretty good, pretty good about

960
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 3: this stuff. They's got to see if they can do

961
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 3: something like that.

962
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 2: No, this isn't what I'm looking.

963
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: It's weird because ESPN's original tracker was just like a river.

964
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: So if it's there one minute and then it's just gone,

965
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 4: you gotta scroll to find everything.

966
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to be able to do it by team,

967
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: team by team. The NFL is not going to do

968
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 2: it because do they have it? Yeah?

969
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: All right, so oh.

970
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 2: That's a man walking with purpose, little button up, button down.

971
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: However you want it. Good to see it, you too,

972
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 2: great business outstanding?

973
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: All right. Ravens signed Tyler Huntley. They've signed offensive i'man

974
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 3: John Simpson and they got Max Crosby. Bengals re signed

975
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: Dalton Risner, re signed Jalen Davis, safe signed Brian Cook

976
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: that you reported for the Browns, Titus Howard and Zion Johnson.

977
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 3: Steelers Pittman they re signed Cole Holcombe holkom they brought

978
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 3: in corner Jamel Dean, and they resigned to Santy Samuel Junior.

979
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 3: Houston has been very active, traded for David Montgomery, uh kept,

980
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 3: Dalton Schultz resigned, Trent Brown resigned, and Ingram re signed.

981
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: Nake Onon Jones resigned, Sheldon Ranklins resigned to Neil Hunter

982
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: resigned E J. Speed So keeping a lot of their own.

983
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: There, did you do Pittsburgh in our division? Of you

984
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: did Baltimore?

985
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, Pittsburgh is Pittman in a trade resigned. Cole

986
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 3: Holcombe signed corner Jamel Dean three or thirty six point

987
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: seventy five million, and then resigned to Sante Samuel. The

988
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: Ta like the Titans.

989
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: All right, let's do this as your So, yeah, Titans

990
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: pick number one. Okay, yeah, we go pick by pick.

991
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: Do you pick by pick? Picking ahead of us? So

992
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 2: Titans pick one, pick two. I've picked two, Yeah, number

993
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: one with the Raiders, and we know what they've done

994
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: because that's they're taking Mendoz with it. So I guess

995
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: that's sometimes when I forget about it. So they have

996
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: the Titans went and they're going nuts. Signed Trubisky to

997
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: be the backup. Signed Wandel Robinson, wide receiver, four year,

998
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: seventy eight million. Got Jermaine Johnson in the trade with

999
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: the Jets, signed Jonathan Franklin Meyers three year sixty three million,

1000
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 2: signed cornerback Cordell Flot three years forty five million, signed

1001
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: cornerback Alante Taylor three year sixty million, and resign their

1002
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: long snamper So, two corners and edge, a defensive lineman,

1003
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 2: a wide receiver, and a backup quarterback. A lot going

1004
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: on there. Raiders do Linderbaum to protect mendozas So. I

1005
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 2: get that they trade Crosby so they pick up another pick.

1006
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: I get that they're going to build it offensively and

1007
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: then deal with defensive ends down the road. Who's picking

1008
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 2: at three? Is that Arizon? Answer at five? Arizona's at three?

1009
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: Who's four? Too much going?

1010
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 3: Where's young Gabriel?

1011
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 5: Gabriel?

1012
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 2: I actually, here's what we need.

1013
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: We need.

1014
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: Does young Gabriel have a laptop? By God, he does,

1015
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: get your buddy. Sometimes it works. You get them in here,

1016
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: in here, young Gabriel in here, so when things.

1017
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 3: Pop up and we can just ask him question six different.

1018
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: Six different ways of thinking about things. I need you

1019
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 2: in here. I need I need depth charts. I need

1020
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 2: our lads. You gotta get me a free agent tracker.

1021
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 2: Get the gentleman in here. This is deaf Con two.

1022
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: Come on in, young Gabriel, grab a seat. We got

1023
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: deaf Con two.

1024
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 3: We got Raiders at one. We've got the Titans. Raiders

1025
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 3: that won. Jets are two, Cardinals, three Titans, four Giants,

1026
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 3: five Brown six. So the New York Jets are two.

1027
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 3: And what have the Jets done so far? A great

1028
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: many things. It turns out you got Jets. You said,

1029
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 3: Arizona is three. I got the Jets. Yeah, so the

1030
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: Jets go ahead, the Jets. I got Arizona today. Man.

1031
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 3: They franchise tag Breise Hall. They re signed tackle tight

1032
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: end Jelani Woods. They signed Kingsley Angabare to a one year,

1033
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 3: ten million dollar contract. The Edge. They signed edge Joseph

1034
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: Osai three years, thirty six million. They signed defensive lineman

1035
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 3: David Oniamada one year, ten and a half million. They

1036
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: acquired defensive tackle to and Andre Sweat in the trade

1037
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: with the Titans that sent Jermaine Johnson. They signed to

1038
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 3: Mario Davis for his third stint at least with the

1039
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 3: Jets two years, twenty two million, and they've acquired Mika Fitzpatrick,

1040
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: who's now signing a three or forty million mega. Fitzpatrick

1041
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,919
Speaker 3: is old to Mario Davis is old.

1042
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: So I think Art Love. I think Aaron Glenn's like,

1043
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 2: you hired me because of what I can do to defense.

1044
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: Give me some guys who can teach my guys.

1045
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,879
Speaker 3: Six new defensive players already six.

1046
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is because they got five

1047
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 2: first round.

1048
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: Picks, six new defensive players, so.

1049
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what they're trying to do. The Arizona

1050
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 2: Cardinals look like they're playing the game that I would

1051
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 2: play if I were them correctly, So it looks to

1052
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: me like they are. They've done three things. They signed

1053
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 2: Tyler Aljier two year, twelve and a half, Blake Gillikin

1054
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 2: the punter, and then Chad Ryland the kicker. That's it.

1055
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: That's the list. Okay, that's Arizona's day. And then they

1056
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: bought out Kyler.

1057
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 3: And then the Giant, So that makes it if they

1058
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: signed Algear to that money, they're not. They've got Trey Benson.

1059
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 3: If they're not Love, that feels like they're not Jeremiah Love.

1060
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: New York Football Giants re signed Gunner Roll chef'skeep. They've

1061
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,959
Speaker 3: signed Isaiah Likely to a three or forty million dollars deal,

1062
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 3: and they signed Tremaine Edmunds three years thirty six with

1063
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 3: twenty four guaranteed. That's what they have done thus far.

1064
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: So that that leads us to Tennessee, No, we did

1065
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: them already. They're very busy. And then five is the Giants,

1066
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: which you just did yep. So we're all caught up, yep.

1067
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: So that if you look, if you're if you're us,

1068
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 2: and you're saying, and by us, I mean Zee and

1069
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: I and you're saying car Real, tate it in at

1070
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: the top, pick that and sleep well at night. And

1071
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 2: to your point, as Ze did there, the the value

1072
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: is incredible to get a player who you believe is

1073
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: a one at that salary level. When you see what

1074
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: these receivers are getting out there in the open market,

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00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: the one of these that would impact the most now

1076
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: would be the g Men, would it not so that

1077
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: maybe the Titans? I mean now that if the Titans

1078
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 2: have been so busy now could they go that way?

1079
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 3: They signed a big contract for Wandelle Robbinson. They'll get

1080
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley back, but Londell's a slot. So yes, Now,

1081
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 3: they liked DK had a nice season for them last year,

1082
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 3: so they like some of the guys that they've got

1083
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: their young receivers. They had another young receiver last year

1084
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: who had a pretty solid season for them as well,

1085
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 3: because remember Ridley got hurt early and so you're kind

1086
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 3: of looking at them saying, okay, who's going to be

1087
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 3: at that receiver room. It was oh Elik Iyamanar, the

1088
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: rookie from Stanford. He had forty one five point fifteen

1089
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: and four. DK had forty eight four to twenty three

1090
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: and four. Gunner Helm was the young tight end that

1091
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 3: they had, who's forty four three fifty seven and two.

1092
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: So my guess is with Ioman r DK, they'll get

1093
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 3: Ridley back, and they've got now Wandale they might be

1094
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 3: I don't think they take a receiver right there.

1095
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 2: So they would that would open up solid to take

1096
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: defensive Yeah, get one of the Star Wars, one of

1097
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: the Buckeyes or a stud edge or yeah, something like that.

1098
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 2: So all right, that's where we stand. That's how that's

1099
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 2: how the morning went. It's how the afternoon is going,

1100
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: and we will keep what is essentially a running tallly

1101
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: of what is happening in NFL Free Agency going as

1102
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 2: we get into the second hour of the program.

1103
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need GM in. Yeah, any of like breaking news.

1104
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 3: Are you on Twitter? G Man, He's on it, He's

1105
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 3: on it something.

1106
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 2: So we need that we need and then we're gonna

1107
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 2: need draft order, depth charts, all of that stuff. That's

1108
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,279
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1119
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 2: we get to the weekend headlines. Just to update you

1120
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 2: if you're just joining us as in terms of things

1121
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: that are happening with us. Devin Bush, linebacker leaving. He's

1122
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: heading in Chicago, three years, thirty million dollars. The deal

1123
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: on that. Zion Johnson is coming in the guard formerly

1124
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: first round pick of the Los Angeles Chargers. He is

1125
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: coming in three years, forty nine and a half, thirty

1126
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: two point four guaranteed for him.

1127
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 3: Doc Dizie, Yeah, reliable, started all all but two games,

1128
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: played in all but two games, over a thousand snaps.

1129
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: He's been reliable. Best football obviously in the Browns estimation

1130
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 3: is ahead of him because it's a it is a

1131
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 3: big price ag that had been better as a run

1132
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: blocker than he has been as a pass blocker, and

1133
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 3: obviously hopefully they can get him there. His new contract

1134
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 3: makes him the fourteenth highest paid guard in the NFL

1135
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 3: according to the spot Track per Daniel Oyafusi. And then

1136
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: here's what Mary Kay said earlier. Landing first round guard

1137
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 3: Zion Johnson was a Brown's top priority as they headed

1138
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 3: in the negotiating period. Today they have at least two

1139
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 3: O line spots filled and this does not mean that

1140
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: Joel Betonio isn't coming back. He is still deciding.

1141
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 2: All right, So there you go on everything that happened

1142
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 2: has happened. We went over to the whole first hour.

1143
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: There's a lot. If anything breaks, obviously we'll keep you

1144
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: updated on it. Time now to dip into those weekend headlines. Alow,

1145
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: givee hi, gentlemen, how are you good? First and foremost

1146
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: we haven't even talked about it. That was the weekend

1147
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: rock schalk oh. I mean this stuff's been fast and

1148
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: furious today.

1149
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

1150
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I would say that whatever your whatever, whatever,

1151
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: my greatest expectation of the place where it far exceeded that.

1152
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: It's awesome.

1153
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: It every box you'd want. Check. Everything they do there

1154
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 2: is very intentional for just really quickly. The reason I

1155
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 2: do this at the end of I run the travel

1156
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: basketball program at the end of the boys' travel careers

1157
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 2: in the sixth grade, and I started this with NBC

1158
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 2: when he was a sixth grader, went down Lexington, went

1159
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: to RUP and we went. I took him too a game.

1160
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: I had them all picked these teams just in case

1161
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: Ohio State wasn't good and ironically enough for the majority

1162
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,279
Speaker 2: of their life, Ohio State hasn't been a tournament team,

1163
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: as sad as that may seem, so NBC pick Kentucky,

1164
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 2: Beamsy pick Kansas, and then Bootsy pick Carolina. So at

1165
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 2: the end of their careers, if they make teams and

1166
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,280
Speaker 2: they have great experiences, then this is kind of their reward.

1167
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: So this was our reward for that. I would say

1168
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: it was like walking in was almost like walking onto

1169
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: a movie set, except it's a real, live basketball place.

1170
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: The most impressive thing I could tell you about it

1171
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: is they're up and I showed you guys both the video.

1172
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: They're up ninety to sixty four with three minutes left,

1173
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: and they do this thing where one of these coordinated

1174
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: cheers that the students do and the fans get into it,

1175
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: and they try to break a decibel record every time

1176
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 2: they get to one hundred and twenty four decibel. And

1177
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 2: they were up twenty six with three minutes to go,

1178
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 2: and every seat was filled Like that type of buy

1179
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 2: in for a program is something that anybody would want. Awesome,

1180
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: just a cathedral of the sport. Just really very impressive.

1181
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 2: I was floored by it. Very special, be hard for

1182
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: anybody to top it. Perfect good very cool. I had

1183
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: a great experience. I had no idea you were telling

1184
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 2: me that there was I felt the wind from the

1185
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: tornadoes on Saturday night in the hotel room. Our hotel

1186
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: was on campus. And then I had no idea what

1187
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: happened at Kansasity Airport after I missed, after I got

1188
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: out that there was all sorts of issues at the

1189
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 2: Kansas City Airport yesterday that I was unaware.

1190
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, very lucky that you were out early. I guess

1191
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 4: afternoon was complete chaos.

1192
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And I told I'll tell you something else,

1193
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: like what I don't know if they're ever going to

1194
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: improve Hopkins. Just go to Kansas City. Just go down there.

1195
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: That's what you do. That's how you that's how you

1196
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 2: fix an air I was never at the previous airport.

1197
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: This is only it was a It was awful, Okay,

1198
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: well it ain't anymore. I would tell you it's it's

1199
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 2: got to be as good as any airport I've ever seen.

1200
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: Like as soon as we get in there beams, He's

1201
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: like dead. This might be better in Orlando, which is

1202
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: kind of It's a great airport. Yeah, this one was Spectator,

1203
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: just really good job. Just the way they designed it,

1204
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 2: all of it wide concourses and all of that stuff.

1205
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 2: So that was very good.

1206
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 3: Have you ever been in that airport?

1207
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, you guys always fly in private, so you

1208
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't know, and it's not a place. This is the

1209
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 2: other thing I would say, like if you are a

1210
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: Browns I know it's a little different in professional sports,

1211
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: but I even think about this with Buckeye fans. Yeah,

1212
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: the people were so damn nice. They were so kind

1213
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: around us. I mean they were so friendly. Now, look,

1214
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 2: they're the big behemoth, so like, there's not much to

1215
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: be confident, But like the people sitting around us, with

1216
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: the nicest folks everybody I met. I'll tell you one

1217
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 2: other thing. They love bread. My god, do they love bread.

1218
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: You can tell it's sweet country. Every single entree came

1219
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 2: with your choice of bread. Do you want multi seed?

1220
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 2: Do you want halapeno ched or do you want sourdough?

1221
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: Do you want this like six spreads? This one waiter

1222
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: at the place right, I'm like, yeah, I'm good on

1223
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: the bread. The guy looked at me as if I

1224
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: had asked him if I could take his girlfriend to

1225
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: a nice seafood dinner and never call her again. He

1226
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 2: wanted to fight me, like because I said, yeah, we're

1227
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: good on bread. It was like everything was with bread,

1228
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: your choice. Everything was in parentheses. Here are the six

1229
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: bread options you can get if you want them. The

1230
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: campus is spectacular if you haven't, if you have been,

1231
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: if you've never been, they basically built it on the

1232
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: rim and so honestly, walking like down to fog Allen

1233
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: or if you were to walk down to the brand

1234
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 2: new football complex, which is stunning, if you were to

1235
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: do that, just think of the walk back up of

1236
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 2: the little cliffhanger guy on Prices right, Yeah, that seep.

1237
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe how It's like they found the

1238
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: tallest hill in Kansas and put the college on it.

1239
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: But it's stunning. It really beautiful, really beautiful place. And Boots,

1240
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: he's like already scouting Chapel Hill.

1241
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, just misguided.

1242
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 2: I know it, like so many my nephews at Duke.

1243
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, the other thing is if he was a

1244
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: Duke fan, which this is all they all just picked

1245
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 2: these arbit It's not like there was any rhyme or

1246
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: reason to it. If you picked Duke. Not only is

1247
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 2: our nephew there playing tennis on the tennis team. But

1248
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: beyond that, two years from now, Duke Carolina would be

1249
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: it in Durham for the because it always got to

1250
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 2: be this time of year. Once once travels on, it's

1251
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 2: always got to be the last game or one of

1252
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 2: the last games that's the Duke Carolina game. So my

1253
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: pocketbook is happy because that means I'm going to be

1254
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: going to Carolina n C State or something like that.

1255
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: So that's a win for me. Duke Carolina would would

1256
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: have been a lot to deal with, Yeah, but yeah,

1257
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 2: it would have been something to see Duke Carolina. So

1258
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see real quick, guys.

1259
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 6: Jaguars are listening to trade offers on wide receiver Brian Thomas.

1260
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm here in fully in fully, that would be a fully.

1261
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 3: I was talking I think we were talking about it

1262
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: with like sicily On. They're like, well, he just doesn't

1263
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 3: fit what we're trying to do on offense. Now, like

1264
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: the guy had twelve hundred yards and ten touchdowns? What

1265
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: do you mean, how does it not How does he

1266
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 3: not fit? What do you want to not fit?

1267
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: What you want to do? He might make your off

1268
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: it's fit him now there is he had a case

1269
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: of the drops early in the season. Early in the season,

1270
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: he had a case of the drops and he lost.

1271
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 2: What are they doing?

1272
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 3: Listen? And this is typically when you get burned by

1273
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: somebody in fantasy as badly as I was in a

1274
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 3: great many others by Brian Thomas, you would write them

1275
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: off forever. But I would absolutely take him. He can run.

1276
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: He is a legit number one receiver in my opinion.

1277
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: I would totally totally be on board with that. Totally

1278
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 3: be on board with that.

1279
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: Would you be on board at our second first rounder?

1280
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: No?

1281
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: No, But I think if you believe he's that, why

1282
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't we Because I think you could get him for

1283
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 2: if they're trying to trade him. Yeah, but this is

1284
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: something I'm very curious about, like is it worth playing

1285
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 2: that game, like trying to under if there's a bidding

1286
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: war for this guy. I mean, look at what the

1287
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 2: Ravens did with Crosby, Like that's something that's going to

1288
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: be looked at forever. The Raiders came out and said

1289
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: it's going to be two ones, yeah, and it scared

1290
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people away. Yep, the two ones, and

1291
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 2: the Ravens said not us, We'll do it now. We'll

1292
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 2: only know in two years, we'll know. Like if Crosby's

1293
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: the lynchpin that puts them over the top and gets

1294
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 2: them into the super Bowl, then that's the minimum requirement.

1295
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: You give up two ones for a defensive end, then

1296
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 2: he better be the difference in you losing in the

1297
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: second round to Buffalo and getting to the Super I'm

1298
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 2: saying it's a win it, but they need to be

1299
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl team the next two years to validate it.

1300
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 3: I think at least they got to get to one

1301
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 3: with Yeah, I'm not saying win it, but get there.

1302
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 3: You gotta get there. I agree with you.

1303
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 2: So these seems are being ultra aggressive. Brian Thomas is

1304
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: a stud.

1305
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 3: Yes, just look at what the Rams do. I think

1306
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 3: that you could get Brian. I just think you can

1307
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: get Brian Thomas for thirty nine. Like if we were

1308
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: talking Marvin Harrison. Same draft class, right, same draft class,

1309
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 3: Harrison and Thomas.

1310
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: He's been more explosive than Marv, but you're.

1311
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: Getting them off. Like, for example, if you are trying

1312
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 3: to trade for him after twenty four, then, yeah, he's

1313
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 3: had a better season than Marvin Harrison's ever had. Yeah,

1314
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 3: but you know last year forty eight, seven oh seven

1315
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 3: and two after eighty seven to twelve, eighty two and ten. Yeah,

1316
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 3: give me, give me Brian Thomas I trained for right now.

1317
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 3: Marv's like that, Marv's up there, yeah, marr is Yeah,

1318
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: Marv might be at fifteen in fact, yeah, he just

1319
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 3: says not for whatever reason this has not been But no,

1320
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 3: I would Brian Thomas absolutely for thirty nine, for sure,

1321
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 3: for sure.

1322
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, either one of those guys. I don't know if

1323
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 2: Marv's on the on the market, but yeah.

1324
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm also curious how the trade market will be

1325
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 6: affected by the DJ Moore deal, right, I mean it

1326
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 6: took a second to get DJ Moore.

1327
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1328
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 6: I think these guys are on their rookie deals with

1329
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 6: his fifty year options, right.

1330
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 3: So you'd have three years of control there. Yeah, Marv's

1331
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 3: fourteen and a half a catch, you have three years

1332
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:39,919
Speaker 3: of control there.

1333
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1334
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 3: I like Brian Thomas a lot. I think they're obviously

1335
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: there's a he went later in the first round then

1336
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 3: maybe people would have thought the reason he wouldn't give

1337
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 3: up twenty four for him is he was the twenty

1338
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: third pick in the first round two years ago. They're

1339
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 3: looking to move on from him. Now, history has not

1340
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 3: been great for wide receivers traded on their first deal.

1341
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: It hasn't. However, I think that you know, with Todd

1342
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 3: Mounkin here, I feel very good about what we're trying

1343
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: to do with that position. I would love it. I

1344
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: would take Brian Thomas in a second. I would be

1345
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: thrilled plus. So far when we trade with the Jags,

1346
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 3: it feels like it works out pretty well.

1347
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 6: We also have our second nine figure edge rusher deal

1348
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 6: of the day. Of course, we had Jalen Phillips going

1349
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 6: to the Panthers. This one is a dafe Oa four years,

1350
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 6: one hundred million dollars to the Washington Commanders.

1351
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 3: Manners and they they're building a new stadium and kept

1352
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: Marcus Mariota, who played very well for them last year.

1353
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 3: That was somebody that you thought potentially that the Browns

1354
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 3: could look at if they were bringing in a veteran

1355
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,959
Speaker 3: type of a guy. That's a big contract for him.

1356
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 3: Boye Mafe coming off a season which he had two sacks,

1357
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: signs a three or sixty million dollar deal with the Bengals.

1358
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: Some of these numbers that are being bandied about it just.

1359
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 4: Mass I said guys earlier what's the ceiling.

1360
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 3: Mafe who was a second round pick of Seattle out

1361
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 3: of Minnesota, so Big ten fans know him. Three sacks

1362
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: is a rookie nine and twenty twenty three, six sacks

1363
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four or just two last year with

1364
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 3: only four quarterback hits, and he just got a three year,

1365
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: sixty million dollar deal. And it makes you wonder like,

1366
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 3: if you're the Bengals and you needed to be is

1367
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: he half as good as Tray Hendrickson? I'd say no.

1368
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 3: I don't eve think he has half as good as

1369
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson. So I'd rather paid Trey Hendrickson. And I

1370
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: don't even think Hendrickson's gonna get forty. I would have

1371
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 3: much rather kept Trey Hendrickson in the mix and and

1372
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 3: paid him. And instead you let him. He's just gonna walk,

1373
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 3: just walk. I had seventeen and a half sacks back

1374
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 3: to back years for you man.

1375
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 4: Something to watch as well from Schefter here in the

1376
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: last couple of minutes, the Packers are releasing their two

1377
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 4: time Pro Bowl center. Uh is it Elgin Jenkins? I

1378
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 4: don't know if the t is there, ye l j Ton.

1379
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: It is pronounced Elton Elton. It's a silent g Yeah,

1380
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: there we go, got me like Lasagna, Like God, you're good, Gabriel. Uh,

1381
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: he's an excellent player, only nine games, had dealt with

1382
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 3: injuries last year. Is he a center? I thought he

1383
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 3: was a guard.

1384
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 4: Well, Schefter's saying he's a center.

1385
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 3: The Packers have agreed to with three extension with offensive

1386
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 3: lineman Sean Ryan, Ian Rappaport and Tom Pellisera, So they're

1387
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,520
Speaker 3: letting Jenkins go. I was under the impression and again

1388
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 3: happy to be could very well be wrong, but I

1389
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 3: was oner the impression that Jenkins, for the majority of

1390
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 3: his career anyway, was a guard, and quite a good guard,

1391
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 3: if I'm not mistaken. So last year he played he

1392
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 3: played center. He's played in his career five thousand snaps

1393
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 3: at guard and nine hundred at center. Last year he

1394
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 3: did play center. That was the first season that he's

1395
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: been a center. He's played some center in twenty twenty

1396
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 3: four to seventy two snaps. He played some back in

1397
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, but for the majority of his career, we're

1398
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 3: talking five snaps for everyone at either left guard. He's

1399
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: even played a little right tackle in his day. But

1400
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 3: if the Browns like his center tape, you know, than

1401
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,720
Speaker 3: somebody that you would probably look at in the middle

1402
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: of your line. He's been a he's been a pretty

1403
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: good player in his career as Jenkins, two time Pro

1404
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 3: Bowler both at guard, twenty and twenty two at guard.

1405
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: Jeez, business is booming, boys.

1406
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to be It's good to be in

1407
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 3: the NFL. That MAFE contract as wild. So they let

1408
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 3: Osai go, right, you're talking the Bengals. Joseph Osi went

1409
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: and signed. Let me get on my checks again with

1410
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 3: the Jets. And for how much, young geirl, do we have?

1411
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,919
Speaker 2: Do you have that? I got it three for thirty six,

1412
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 2: so much less. This is really nice. How the NFL

1413
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: is looking for this. They actually put in parentheses like

1414
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: where the report is coming from on the signed So

1415
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 2: this is from his agent? Is the Joseph a sideal?

1416
01:07:55,480 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: Yep, from his agent? Now I could be wrong. Osai

1417
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 3: most famous, of course for hitting Patrick Mahomes out of bounds,

1418
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 3: but Osai's had five sacks in each of the last

1419
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 3: two seasons. Last two seasons, Joseph Osai has had five

1420
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 3: ten total sacks, thirteen tackles for loss, and twenty seven

1421
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: quarterback hits and he got what who did?

1422
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: I just just here it is Joseph. It was three

1423
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: for thirty six.

1424
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 3: In that same spaan boy Mafi, who got twenty million

1425
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 3: dollars has eight sacks, so advantage Osai twelve tackles for

1426
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: loss Advantago Sai in sixteen quarterback hits Advantago Si, I

1427
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 3: don't understand. I don't get. I'm very confused by that. Yeah,

1428
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 3: by those as they would say, uh in the great

1429
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 3: film Talladega Knights, I'm confused by your tactics.

1430
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 2: I just watched that scene.

1431
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 3: Great movie.

1432
01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 2: Just watched it.

1433
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ricky Bibby just watched it. Isn't that? Am I wrong?

1434
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 3: Is this a little bit nuts?

1435
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 6: No?

1436
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 2: It's nuts. It's almost like you this is a generalization,

1437
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,599
Speaker 2: but why the hell not, we're having fun on a Monday.

1438
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,879
Speaker 2: It's almost like there is contention that builds up between

1439
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 2: team and player on team and they feel like they're

1440
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: slighted by team, and so player leaves. And this is

1441
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: happening throughout that There's a bunch of examples of this

1442
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: player leaves and then you end up paying somebody to

1443
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 2: replace them who is not the player they are more

1444
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 2: yep and I guess it's just the human nature of it, right,

1445
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: Like you feel like you're cheated or you feel like

1446
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 2: you're disrespected, and it's better to be disrespected by someone

1447
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 2: you don't know than somebody you do. I guess that's

1448
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: kind of the read on it. But it is very

1449
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 2: strange some of the numbers that are that are being

1450
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 2: reported out here based on what feels like the teams

1451
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 2: that they're leaving could have paid that.

1452
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, it's interesting. Interesting. Indeed, this is I

1453
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,519
Speaker 3: think you're right. Maybe he's like, I'm not signing here,

1454
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: screw you guys, but it's you guys home. It's odd,

1455
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 3: that isn't that just says a juxtaposition, Very good cartman,

1456
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 3: that says juxtaposition That is, I.

1457
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 2: Had that in the did you That is true?

1458
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 3: That is a strange juxtaposition those two.

1459
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1460
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 6: Vederian Low, Yeah, new tackle for the forty nine ers.

1461
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 6: So maybe on Trent Williams watch here, one year deal

1462
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 6: worth up to twelve million dollars. He is a left

1463
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 6: tackle for the Patriots.

1464
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,520
Speaker 3: And who'd he signed with the Niners signers?

1465
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: So then Trent, does Trent become trade.

1466
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: Bait or they can't they are not reaching a deal

1467
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: with him right now. That's very unhappy. My dad says,

1468
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 3: guess what, good riddance Pedro. He says, I don't care

1469
01:10:49,400 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: if PFF says. He says, they give him grades on reputation.

1470
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: The eye test tells me something held on. I get

1471
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 3: to give you the direct quote. He was pretty fired up.

1472
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 3: He didn't even take a second. He didn't even take

1473
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 3: a second to get excited about Mike Evans. He goes

1474
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 3: have a feeling Niners need to left tackle. Third time

1475
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 3: tryd Is is held out each of the previous two. You

1476
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: demand me the highest paid tackle in the league, but

1477
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 3: he's not the best anymore. Seattle destroyed him the NFC

1478
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 3: title game. His pass protection was the worst of his career.

1479
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 3: Time to move on. PFF rated him on reputation run blocking,

1480
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 3: but not on the eye test. Exclamation point.

1481
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:22,120
Speaker 2: The eye test is short for it's not a lie

1482
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: if you believe it. That's right, That's what the eye

1483
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 2: test is.

1484
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, man, I'm still having a hard this boy,

1485
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: Mafe the ie of It's stunning to me. How about

1486
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 3: this ten years ago, in the free agent period. Ten

1487
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 3: years ago, Andrew Luck became the highest paid player in

1488
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 3: NFL history with a five year, one hundred and twenty

1489
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 3: three million dollar deal ten years later. Ten years later, yep, Linderbaum,

1490
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 3: had he signed a five year deal on his same

1491
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 3: average per year, would have signed for five years, one

1492
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty five million dollars in ten years. A

1493
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 3: center is making more on a perier basis than Andrew

1494
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 3: Luck at the time became the number one guy.

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Speaker 2: Business is good in this sport.

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Speaker 3: It's quite good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The television revenue that has come into this sport

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Speaker 2: in the last decade. This s that's what this is about.

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01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 2: There's so much money in the sport right now that

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Speaker 2: these things have gone up tenfold. Oh that's not a good. Look.

1501
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: What do you got?

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: Cowboys signed Jalen Thompson, who's a safety, kind of nickel

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01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,519
Speaker 3: corner hybrid, three or thirty six million dollars. I thought

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Speaker 3: that maybe if we were making if we were going

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01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,759
Speaker 3: to go to more of a like a big nickel

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01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 3: all the time, I thought he would be somebody that

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 3: maybe the Browns would be interested in. But he is

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01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 3: off the board.

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01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: Here's your boye Mafe from Ben Baby just two sacks

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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty five. He was eighth in past rush

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01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 2: win rate among edg's rushers according to the next Gen Stats.

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Speaker 3: So that's where you find the good stuff, that's versus

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01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 3: your eye test.

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Speaker 2: That's where those things happen. All Right, we're gonna we'll

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Speaker 2: do the weekend headlines tomorrow. We got we got some

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Speaker 2: what's going on today, the whole rundown will move to

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Speaker 2: let's talk tomorrow. Part of today's show is going to

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the time on a very very busy day,

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:21,639
Speaker 2: A lot happening today. I guess let's just start here

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01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,360
Speaker 2: the headlines for you surprises as as all of this

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 2: stuff is starting to flow, starting early this morning and

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Speaker 2: continuing now.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, we're once again asking ourselves

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 5: how these teams came to these deals in a mirror

1540
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 5: matter of minutes with the illegal tampering, We're not really

1541
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 5: asking that, but we're they're side eyeing it, you know.

1542
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 5: I think the big surprise is Jaln Phillips. That deal

1543
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 5: not to the team he went to with the money

1544
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 5: number was certainly staggering. And then I think the Ravens

1545
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 5: obliterating the center market there was that was shocking. I

1546
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 5: think for a lot of people little about getting that

1547
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 5: kind of money there. So and it goes the two

1548
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 5: like eye opening deals. I think there's some you know,

1549
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 5: fans may not have realized that Mike Evans was kind

1550
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 5: of done in Tampa and really wanted to go to

1551
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 5: a contender, and so that may have surprised and people

1552
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 5: that he went to San Francisco that kind of stuff.

1553
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 5: But I think the main surprises, I think for people

1554
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 5: who you know worked in this industry, I think were

1555
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 5: the numbers that the Raiders handed out and that the

1556
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 5: Panthers handed out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean when you were you get one hundred

1558
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 3: and fifty percent of the second highest paid player at

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01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 3: your position. That is a big reset there for the

1560
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,120
Speaker 3: Raiders in a very tough division, and obviously looked Tom

1561
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 3: Brady must think we got to get as Bo pointed

1562
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 3: out earlier, we got to get things right. For from Menoza,

1563
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 3: he's the future. That's where we're going to go there.

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01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 3: What do you make so far? Kind of just of

1565
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 3: some of some of the big deals, I'm still boy.

1566
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 3: Mafe getting three year sixty million with the Bengals has

1567
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: me scratching my head a little bit. I realized that

1568
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 3: he had good percentages of win rate, but in terms

1569
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 3: of just production, it wasn't there. Are you surprised at

1570
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 3: how big some of these contracts are? And I guess

1571
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 3: it's just the evolution of the game, right.

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 5: It's you know, it's a reflection of we tend to

1573
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 5: think in the past. We tend to think of what

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01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 5: somebody got paid before instead of kind of having an

1575
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 5: eye on the future and where the market is going.

1576
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 5: And if you think of it in terms of cap percentage,

1577
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 5: as the cap goes up each year to the broadcasting

1578
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 5: rights and the gambling revenue, the number starts to be

1579
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 5: a little bit more realistic when you start to look

1580
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 5: at the numbers that way. But yeah, I mean, on

1581
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 5: its surface, a buoying them off at getting that kind

1582
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 5: of money is seems a little bit ludicrous. But then

1583
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 5: you look at it as a percentage cap and you're like,

1584
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 5: all right, I sort of understand where they're coming from.

1585
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 5: You got to play the you got to pay the

1586
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 5: excuse me, the Cincinnati Bengal tax in order to get

1587
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,559
Speaker 5: some guys up there, because that defense is so devoid

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 5: of talent, and everybody knows what kind of organization that is. So,

1589
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 5: you know, I think I think it's with regard to

1590
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 5: that deal, I think that's what you're looking at there.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing that I'm curious, we're kind of

1592
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 2: thinking about this and hypothesizing. I mean, we're seeing some

1593
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,839
Speaker 2: teams really go I mean, you can't go for it anymore.

1594
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 4: Now.

1595
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: Obviously they would have liked it had Lenderbond back too,

1596
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: But you give up the two first one, the two

1597
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: ones for Max Crosley. The Ravens have ever given up

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01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 2: ones before, They've never traded him before. You think about

1599
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 2: what Kansas City has done, and as aggressive as they are,

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Speaker 2: it feels like a real arms race at the top.

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01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 2: And I'm curious, and we were all over at the combine,

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01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 2: you know, a couple of weeks ago, and you think

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01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 2: about that draft in twenty twenty seven that's coming. I

1604
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 2: do wonder if we could have a little bit of

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01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: a group of teams that are like, hey man, let's

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01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: make sure we're staying in a good position there, and

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01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: then a group of teams that can take advantage of

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01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: that at the top and really go for it. Do

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01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 2: you think there's anything to that?

1610
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 4: I do.

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01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 5: I think that people view this draft is especially very

1612
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 5: more fat in the middle. It really just does not

1613
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 5: have a lot of blue chip talent, and it specifically

1614
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 5: it positions where you'd want it to. And so I

1615
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 5: think you see a lot of teams that are saying, hey, look,

1616
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 5: we're not going to get much out of this draft.

1617
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 5: We're willing to burn these picks trading for people, doing

1618
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 5: whatever it takes right now, and we'll reset in twenty

1619
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 5: twenty seven when the draft has more And it's interesting

1620
01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 5: because this draft is kind of a victim of the

1621
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 5: the whole COVID thing. For a few years ago, what

1622
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,600
Speaker 5: you got were players that granted extra years of eligibility,

1623
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 5: and so the last few drafts have actually had extra

1624
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 5: people in there thanks to NIL and COVID eligibility, have

1625
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 5: actually had extra players in them the last few years.

1626
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 5: And this year was the year we saw that they

1627
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 5: drop off when there's none of that left. And so

1628
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 5: it's sort of fascinating how this one's devoid of talent,

1629
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 5: and then you sort of get back to it a

1630
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 5: little bit next year.

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Speaker 3: Ben Niners obviously I mean the Browns, I'm sorry, obviously

1632
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 3: attacking their offensive line here. The Niners might have to

1633
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 3: as well if Trent Williams ends up moving on from

1634
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers who got Mike Evans earlier today,

1635
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 3: But the trade for Titus Hoard, you bring in Zion Johnson,

1636
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 3: What did you make of the Browns moves, and then

1637
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 3: what do you see or what else have you kind

1638
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 3: of heard percolating about the Browns.

1639
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 2: Well, I like both.

1640
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 5: Those moves, and with Todd Mounkin, there is going to

1641
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 5: be an emphasis on the trenches, so you know, you

1642
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 5: obviously knew that coming in.

1643
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: Now.

1644
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 5: As far as other things that they've been working, I

1645
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 5: know that they've sniffed around quite a few wide receivers,

1646
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 5: so they obviously don't feel that that room is where

1647
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 5: it needs to be and feel they need to add there.

1648
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 5: They haven't obviously landed anybody as a this conversation, but

1649
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 5: they put a phone call in on Mike Evans and

1650
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 5: that you know obviously went nowhere. And so they've got

1651
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 5: they've got caught irons in the fire on getting some

1652
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 5: better receiver talent in that receiving room. And it looks

1653
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,679
Speaker 5: like they want to go to the free agent route

1654
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 5: rather than waiting to the draft where you've got to

1655
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 5: develop somebody. I think they want somebody that's ready to go.

1656
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,799
Speaker 3: Now, all right, talk about the wide receivers, any names

1657
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 3: in particular that you think the Browns can pursue, and

1658
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 3: then what do you make of I'd love them to

1659
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 3: go after Brian Thomas. What do you make of the market.

1660
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 3: What will the market be for Brian Thomas? What will

1661
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 3: the Jags be wanting in return for a first round

1662
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 3: orho two years ago twelve hundred yards, ten touchdowns and

1663
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 3: was looking like one of the biggest sending stars in

1664
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: this league.

1665
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think BTJ is going to have a

1666
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 5: pretty robust market. I don't know if Cleveland's going to

1667
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,200
Speaker 5: be in on it or not. What I will say

1668
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 5: is that the numbers you see tossed around right now

1669
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 5: in terms of what they're looking for, I don't think

1670
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 5: they're going to get. You know, the Philadelphia was adamant

1671
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,559
Speaker 5: about that whole first round deal for AJ Brown, and

1672
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 5: they're starting to sort of crack on that a little bit.

1673
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,680
Speaker 5: I still think he's going to the Patriots. I just

1674
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 5: think the Patriots holding firm and will probably wind up

1675
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,960
Speaker 5: giving a second or you know, and maybe a little

1676
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 5: bit more when all said and done, so every side

1677
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 5: can say they won, well we got more of the second,

1678
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 5: Well we didn't give up the first, you know, that

1679
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 5: kind of stuff. So I think, you know, as far

1680
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 5: as AJ Brown goes, that's that's part where that's that

1681
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 5: and then you know btj's compensation, Well, we'll kind of

1682
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 5: tail off of that. So you're looking at, you know,

1683
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 5: probably something closer to like a third rounder with you know,

1684
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 5: with possibilities that it could be more based on playing

1685
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 5: time or production, but that that sweet spot there for

1686
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 5: him is probably right around that third round pick.

1687
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: Breaking news here in the last minute, former Dolphins quarterback

1688
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 2: to a tongue of Iloa plans to sign a one

1689
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,880
Speaker 2: year deal with the Atlanta Falcons. You and I Z

1690
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 2: talked about that last week. It made all the sense

1691
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: of the world for him to that he would fit

1692
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 2: what Kevin wants to do perfectly. There were rumors about

1693
01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: it this morning, and now Schefter among others repeating that

1694
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 2: as well. One of the big topics over there in

1695
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 2: Indy was the quarterback market. I was curious if, and honestly,

1696
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people are are following, you know, kind

1697
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: of that Denver model that you saw with Russell Wilson,

1698
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,599
Speaker 2: like just hey, let's just eat it and and let's

1699
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: move on as quickly as possible. You saw that with

1700
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 2: with Kyler in Arizona. You saw it with Tua as well.

1701
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 2: What what And then we had the Malik Willis Steel

1702
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: that happened this morning with with the dolphins as well.

1703
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 2: What is the plan in Arizona, Ben or your best

1704
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 2: guess on the planet in Arizona? And then for Kyler,

1705
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: where's the logical landing spot from your perspective?

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01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 5: Well, Kyler has options. Let's start with that when and

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01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 5: I'll go back to Arizona. Kyler has some options. Does

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01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 5: he want to sit there and be a reclamation project?

1709
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 5: Does he want to be a starter, And so there's

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01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 5: there's several different options. Minnesota is one of them, depending

1711
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 5: on whether or not they can move McCarthy or get

1712
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 5: him to you know, figure that situation out with him

1713
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 5: the Jets obviously, but do you want to go.

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01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 4: To the Jets?

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01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 5: You know, that's out of the frying pan into the

1716
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,520
Speaker 5: fire in terms of dumpster fires.

1717
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 4: You know. And then there's an interesting.

1718
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 5: Situation in Indianapolis where if they pull the tag from

1719
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones, they bring Kyler Murray in on a one

1720
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,120
Speaker 5: point five deal with with Arizona paying for it. With

1721
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 5: the offsets, you have a chance to go out and

1722
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 5: add on the defensive side of the ball again, maybe

1723
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 5: you go after Trey Hendrickson. So there's options for Kyler

1724
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 5: Murray as for Arizona. Laughably or not laughably, everything that

1725
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 5: I had heard was that Lafleur was dead set on

1726
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 5: bringing in Jimmy Garoppolo. And I spit my drink out

1727
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 5: when I was told that at the time, but they

1728
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,559
Speaker 5: looked at me deadpan like they were serious, and they

1729
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 5: said that. The person that I talked to said that

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01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 5: they were looking at bringing Jimmy Garoppolo in as a

1731
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 5: bridge quarterback and then going to the draft next year.

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01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's true, but that was told

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01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 5: to me by somebody that was very reliable.

1735
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:40,719
Speaker 2: Do you think that Marvin Harrison will be available out there?

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01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 3: I don't.

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01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 5: I think they want to keep most of that together

1738
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 5: for this season and kind of see what they've got

1739
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 5: with the new staff, and I think then that staff

1740
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 5: will make assessments and next year will be the year

1741
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 5: that if they blow anything up, that's when they do it.

1742
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 3: Who's somebody that's kind of still out there yet that

1743
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 3: you're surprised or that you're looking to see where they land,

1744
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,360
Speaker 3: of any kind of the top free agent still out there.

1745
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd, the linebacker kind of surprised he hasn't come

1746
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 5: off the board just yet. He's going to get a

1747
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 5: decent deal. I know Denver is very interested in him,

1748
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 5: and if they do, then green Law would be available

1749
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 5: from the Broncos. There are other teams involved there, Cincinnati, Carolina,

1750
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 5: New Orleans, but Devin Lloyd is the one I'm surprised

1751
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 5: has not come off the board yet.

1752
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: We appreciate you, buddy, great stuff as always, thanks for

1753
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 2: hopping on with us.

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01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, guess take care.

1755
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 2: All right, there he goes Benjamin Albright, NFL Insider koa

1756
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01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 2: All Right, lots going on. I think we've if we're

1762
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: just if you're just joining us, there's no way we

1763
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 2: could catch you up on all of it. So here

1764
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: in the last couple of minutes, something we talked about yesterday.

1765
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 2: This is and it's insuting this kind of puts a

1766
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,600
Speaker 2: ribbon on the day two of Tongue of Biloa. The

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01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 2: day kind of started with his release from the Dolphins

1768
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: and the ninety nine million bucks that the caps that

1769
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 2: the the Fins are gonna have to eat in terms

1770
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: of the cap hit there in the last five minutes,

1771
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: he has signed a one year deal with the Atlanta

1772
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 2: Falcons and we said that last week that that would

1773
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: be the spot that would make a lot of sense

1774
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 2: for him, and it sounded like they're going to go

1775
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: with a two headed quarterback competition between him and Michael Pennox.

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01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 3: For that, I guess is who is gonna start because

1777
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 3: he's gonna run Kevin's offense the way he wants it

1778
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 3: to run. And I think the big question now will

1779
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,799
Speaker 3: be the referendum will be on that style of an offense.

1780
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: Because you've got the talent, You've got Drake London, You've

1781
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 3: got Beejean Robinson, you've got Kyle Pitts. Can that offense

1782
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 3: be you know what it needs to be?

1783
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 2: You want to talk about as a young quarterback being

1784
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: put in incredible positions to succeed. Now, I know he

1785
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,760
Speaker 2: didn't have Mike McDaniel right away in Miami right in

1786
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 2: relatively short. I was a year two. He got Mike

1787
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 2: McDaniel and Tyreek Hill. Your two or three. Give me that,

1788
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 2: g man, you're two or three. He ends up with

1789
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel and Tyreek Hill. They draft Jalen Waddle and

1790
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 2: now if he is indeed the starter in Atlanta, that

1791
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: thing is set up.

1792
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 3: It's pretty good. Their roster is loaded. So to us,

1793
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 3: rookie year was twenty When did McDaniel go there. McDaniel

1794
01:25:57,280 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 3: was there.

1795
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 6: While I was high hired up the Dolphins of February sixth,

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01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:02,799
Speaker 6: twenty twenty.

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01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 2: Two, so it was year two. It looks like he

1798
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 2: played two years year three for TUA. So he had

1799
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 2: to get through the first two years. But then he's

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01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,120
Speaker 2: got Mike and all that talent, and now he goes

1801
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 2: to Atlanta and he's going to have all that talent

1802
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: with Kevin, and Kevin just wants him to flip his

1803
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: head and throw it where he wants it throw.

1804
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 3: Him in two years. With mcdann's first two years with McDaniel,

1805
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 3: he completed about sixty eight percent of his passes, fifty

1806
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 3: four touchdowns, twenty two picks, and threw for over eight

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01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 3: thousand yards. Then twenty twenty four. He led the NFL

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01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 3: seventy three percent completions last three seasons sixty nine point three,

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01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 3: seventy three, sixty eight. So it's going to be and

1810
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 3: he can throw the ball down the field better than

1811
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel did. So you know, you think Dylan Gabriel

1812
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 3: managed the offense pretty well, but it's going to be

1813
01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: that plus I mean it was better. I mean it

1814
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 3: was a first round pick. That plus the ability to

1815
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 3: get the ball down the field. So Kevin's got to

1816
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 3: be excited about. I think be John Robinson's in for

1817
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 3: a monster season there, and especially with now that Aljier

1818
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: has left, because Algier took a lot of touchdowns off

1819
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 3: of his his plate last year. So I don't think

1820
01:26:58,560 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 3: that's going to happen.

1821
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 2: But Brian Thomas another big chip. It has not fallen,

1822
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: but he is now on the market. For multiple reports

1823
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: they're entertaining offers in Jacksonville for Brian Thomas. This is

1824
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,759
Speaker 2: a guy that we loved in the advance of this season.

1825
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 2: If you are a fantasy owner, you likely picked him

1826
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: and went what just happened because he got drafted really

1827
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 2: high in a lot of these drafts. It didn't happen

1828
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 2: in terms of on the field, but the piece of

1829
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: clay is pretty elite, and he's got an elite season

1830
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: under his belt already his first year in Jacksonville. So

1831
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 2: he enters a potential wide receiver trade market that already

1832
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: includes AJ Brown. Seems like the Eagles kind of pushed

1833
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 2: back from the table on that, going to let that

1834
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: setup a little bit. So now Brian Thomas comes into

1835
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: the mix. Mike Debatt. We've had Mike on, right, we've

1836
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 2: had Mike on. Yeah, he's great, he's a debate. Is

1837
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 2: that how you say his name? He was the nicest

1838
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 2: guy ever. I should remember it. I know we've had

1839
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 2: him on the show. He says that the Patriots would

1840
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 2: be a potential target for him to land.

1841
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 3: For Brian Thomas, Yeah, of course they are, because they're

1842
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 3: in on AJ Brown. That makes more sense to get.

1843
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 3: He's a guy that can be there forever and grow

1844
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 3: with Drake May. I don't weapons weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons,

1845
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 3: I don't think you necessarily find the weapons in free agency.

1846
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 3: It's rare that that happens, that an elite weapon makes

1847
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 3: it that far. But you know to and that's why again,

1848
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 3: carnelt I love what Carnell Tait where he's at at

1849
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 3: number six. I think that'd be a great option for

1850
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. The question will be do they sign

1851
01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 3: another tackle? Do we sign a tackle as this free

1852
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:34,560
Speaker 3: agency period goes on, and if we do that, to me,

1853
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:40,800
Speaker 3: kind of leads you towards taking that receiver early. It's

1854
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 3: probably gonna be a receiver or a trade back would

1855
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 3: be my guess.

1856
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 2: We remember this from previous drafts with ab like he

1857
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 2: never wants to go in the draft, saying I got

1858
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 2: to draft this position.

1859
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 3: Now.

1860
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 2: We haven't had picks the last couple of years, obviously

1861
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,200
Speaker 2: because of the Deshaun deal. But I don't think they

1862
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: love the position they were in when they had to

1863
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 2: draft a tackle with Jed Wills, and so if they can,

1864
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:00,719
Speaker 2: they at least would want to go into the draft

1865
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: the idea of we can feel the team and we're

1866
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 2: good to go and then you can true. I don't

1867
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 2: know that you're going to get that done. I don't

1868
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 2: know if it's possible because we have a lot of

1869
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: things that need to be filled on the opposite side

1870
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 2: of the ball. But they would want to be in

1871
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,599
Speaker 2: that shot, so they could just take the guy who's

1872
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 2: number one on their board.

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01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, we'll see, and you've added because of today.

1874
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,759
Speaker 3: If you're just joining us the one out going outbound,

1875
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 3: you've added a new need for a starter. With Devin

1876
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 3: Bush going to Chicago coming off of the best season

1877
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:26,839
Speaker 3: of his career with the Cleveland Browns.

1878
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:28,280
Speaker 2: This is.

1879
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting start to free agency. I think there have

1880
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 3: been a ton of just unique signings or things that

1881
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 3: have seemed very odd to me. Browns, we knew, whether

1882
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 3: you like the players or not, these are the players

1883
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 3: that the Browns have identified. And obviously we know Tom

1884
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 3: Telesco was you know, reportedly was a consultant, that's who

1885
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 3: drafted Zion Johnson in the first round. Yeah, he's a

1886
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,880
Speaker 3: good friend of Andrew Berry. So not surprising that we

1887
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 3: liked them. Whether you like the guys or not, Titus

1888
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 3: Howard and Zion Johnson, they wanted to address the offensive

1889
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 3: line and these are the guys that they identified that

1890
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:04,920
Speaker 3: they thought could help them do that.

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01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 2: I would say that there are less than two percent

1892
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 2: of the people who pay attention to this who could

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01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 2: give an educated opinion on either one of those cats. Like,

1894
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,679
Speaker 2: we watch football all the time and even we're going

1895
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: to the PFF next gen. We're trying to what do

1896
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 2: you see here connecting dots. One of the things that's

1897
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 2: been a big theme of NFL legal tampering, essentially free

1898
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:28,240
Speaker 2: agency being open, is that you're seeing this in many examples,

1899
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 2: you are paying for potential a lot.

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01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 3: Yep, what you believe they can be Yeah, yep, not here.

1901
01:30:35,720 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean that's around the league. That happened in Cincinnati,

1902
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,040
Speaker 2: That's happening all over the place. So people are buying

1903
01:30:41,080 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 2: into boy, this circumstance wasn't exactly right. If we get

1904
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,439
Speaker 2: him in the right circumstance in our building, we can

1905
01:30:46,439 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 2: make it right and we can.

1906
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 3: Coach them up.

1907
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 2: But what's interesting about it is it does feel like

1908
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: in some instance there's an overpaying for that. There's an

1909
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: overpaying for the potential that's pretty dramatic and.

1910
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 3: Time it just feels like, what is Romeo, what's Romeo

1911
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 3: Dobbs going to get? If Onondale Robinson got twenty yes

1912
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 3: and Ali.

1913
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 2: One hundred and sixteen for Alec Pierce, it's gonna be wild, man,

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01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fascinating to see how this all shakes out.

1915
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Speaker 2: The Jake Dieblers Show is coming up next Thanks for

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01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,640
Speaker 2: listening body Cleveland Browns Daily at fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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