1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Ye well, by, 2 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: now you know what that music means. Welcome to the show, 3 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Historians. It's hopefully your favorite non history experts coming 4 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: to you relatively live from our respective bunkers. Yet again, Hi, 5 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: my name is Ben. What does it mean? Ben? What 6 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: does it mean? The music? It means that our show 7 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: is still on. No, we're we're recording an episode now, 8 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: and I gotta say, uh, we are. We are upping 9 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: our camera game. All three of us look pretty great 10 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: from what I can see on the screens. Yeah, well, 11 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: there's the parts that you can't see on the screen 12 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: that should concern you, my friend. And there we go. 13 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Maybe concern is a strong word, but you know, working 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: from home is as a slippery slope. You know, putting 15 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: on pants really does become optional. Yep, yep, agreed. As 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I was talking to one of 17 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: my friends who was a no fool and kind of 18 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: productivity expert, and one of her big recommendations for people 19 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: working from home is that when you wake up in 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: the morning, you go ahead and get dressed like you're 21 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: going somewhere. It kind of primes your brain I've I've 22 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: had a hard time with that. I've I've been rocking 23 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: more of like a sort of a sweatsuit situation. Um. 24 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: And I've been starting my day off with a nice walk. Uh, 25 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: and so it's appropriate the sweatsuit for that, but then 26 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: I just keep it on for the rest of the day. 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Is that weird? No? No, not at all, man, not 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: at pregnant pause, ban that pregnant pause. I hope that 29 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: was just the lag in our communication, because I was 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, you're really doing a favor for 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: the sweatsuit industry because if they if people on the 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: streets see Noel Brown Rock in a sweatsuit, their first 33 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: question is immediately going to be what how can I 34 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: get one? So you're welcome sweatsuits. Hey, thank you Ben 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: for giving me that that confidence boost. I appreciate him. 36 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: So I was thinking of an interesting segue in here. 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: Uh and I wanted to see what you and are 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: super producer Casey Pegram. I thought about this A lot 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: of people, now that we're at home or self isolating, 40 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: a lot of us have been cooking more and more. 41 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: You've been cooking, Nold, I've been cooking, Casey. I don't 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: know if you have you been trying your hand at 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: the pot in the pan. Uh, My cooking repertoire consists 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: of uh, such delicacies as frozen pizzas. Let's see what else. 45 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: We've got some eggo waffles in the mix. We got 46 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: some wings. We do wings the other night. But now 47 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: my girlfriend is a great cook, and so she's been 48 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: handling most of the duties. I help out where I can, 49 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: but she's the expert. Well that's nice, you know. We 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: we all have our strengths, and we can all agree 51 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: that whether you consider yourself a a top not chef 52 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: or an amateure or just a cooking enthusiasts, people love 53 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: people love food, and wherever you go in the world, 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: that's one of the topics that you can easily talk 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: to anyone about, regardless of your cultural differences. Here in 56 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: the United States, we've had a very old saying for 57 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: a long time, which is the best thing since sliced bread. Uh. 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: You know, we've all like heard of that before, I'm sure, 59 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: but today's show actually does concern slice bread. Isn't that right? 60 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: It is right, But I got a bone to pick 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: with this whole concept is slicing bread really that hard 62 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: with a with a nice serrated knife. They make a 63 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: thing called a bread knife. It's literally part of any 64 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: good cutlery arrangement. Yeah, yeah, I think it's not. I 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: think it's not so much that it's hard as much 66 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: as people are thinking, you know, this is time consuming. 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm nickel and diming away my freshest seconds of life, 68 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, sort of like the argument that Gilbert 69 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Godfrey makes about the Shootini. You know, all the time 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: you're wasting putting on your shoes like a regular person, 71 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: one foot at a time. He could be he could 72 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: be like, you know, cring too soon. Um, you could 73 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: be doing something productive with that time. There we go 74 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: could save. So today's story is so weird, we're gonna 75 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: go ahead and give you the big scoop the lay 76 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: of the land. As as any long time listener knows, 77 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: you can get a lot of spoilers from checking out 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: our titles and our descriptions. This is a story about 79 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: that time the US government banned slice bread and it's 80 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: it's a weird journey. It's a journey that begins around 81 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: nine UM with a jeweler from Missouri by the name 82 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: of Otto f raw Waiter, raw Weather. I don't know, 83 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with raw Waiter. What do you think, Ben? 84 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: I went with row Weather. So if we, if we, 85 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: if we split the difference at some point, we will 86 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: at the very least accidentally get the name right. Yeah, exactly. 87 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: Our pronunciation powers are lack thereof combined um. But yeah, 88 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: this gentleman um, he saw a need. He saw a 89 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: need that needed fill in. Um. He was overhearing, you know, uh, 90 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: homemakers um in his jewelry store complaining it. But just 91 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: how difficult it was to slice bread, and how much 92 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: they hated it. It was just the thing they just 93 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: look forward to the least and and what a what 94 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: a hassle of American life it was to to cut bread. Um. 95 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: So he he looked at this and took it very seriously, 96 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: and he saw an opportunity for innovation. Um. And he 97 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: invented a delightful gadget known as the automatic bread slicing 98 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: Machine and became something of a of an American hero, 99 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: at least in the kitchen. But a little background about 100 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: about our boy Auto. I'm gonna just call him Auto, 101 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: so I don't even have to mess with pronunciation ever again, 102 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: Otto was he was a bit of a renaissance man. 103 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: He was an ophthalmologist who decided to get into the 104 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: jewelry game, and he owned not one, not two, but 105 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: three jeweler stores in St. Joseph, Missouri, Missouri. Can you 106 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: only say Missouri if you're from there? That seems accurate? 107 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: What do you think, Ben, I don't know. It's kind 108 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: of like how people from uh Nevada say Nevada. You know. I. 109 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's something you have to earn. You're 110 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 1: you're right, You're right. Though. Noel uh row it Or 111 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: was a trained ophthalmologist who went into jewelry for the money. 112 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: And his story and speculate that while he was selling 113 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: ear rings and necklaces, he overheard customers talking doing something 114 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: like you would see at the beginning of a lot 115 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: of TV infomercials now where like picture pictures someone trying 116 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: to slice bread and the bread falls the floor in 117 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: the kitchen another one. Yes, there's got to be a 118 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: better way. Uh. He tapped into that, really, no fool, 119 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: and we know that as early's nineteen twelve he had 120 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: built out a prototype for what would become this automatic 121 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: bread slicer, and his big question was he was like, well, 122 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: what do we mean when we say a slice. What's 123 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: the difference between a slice of bread and a slab 124 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: of bread or a sliver of bread? So he did 125 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: something very smart. He made a questionnaire like a survey, 126 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: and instead of handing it out to people in person, 127 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: he paid to get it published in several newspapers in 128 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: the region and the country, and then in just a 129 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: few months more than thirty thousand people responded and let 130 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: him know where they fell along the controversial issue of 131 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: thick or thin slices. Well, I have a question, why 132 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: can't they do it like they do with those Deli 133 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: slicer machines where you could pick your thickness. It's a 134 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: variable thickness. Is that too much to ask auto you 135 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: only get one thickness? Yeah, wouldn't it be neat to 136 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: have a dial on the machine? You know, like how 137 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: you can you can uh decide how toasted your toast 138 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: is and a lot of toasters, you know. Well, unfortunately 139 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: for him, we weren't there, or maybe the technology wasn't there. 140 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: I think the technology might not have been there. So 141 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: it's true more than thirty housewives responded, uh, and indicated 142 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: that they wanted a bread slice that was neither too 143 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: thick nor too thin, sort of a Goldilocks bread slice. 144 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: It was just right. Although that is kind of relative, 145 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: isn't it. I guess so, I guess so. So Probably 146 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: what he did was take like the biggest group consensus 147 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: and went with that because we know he he for 148 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: some reason couldn't make a variable bread slicing machine, and 149 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: he went all in dude, Like four years later, just 150 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: was that nineteen sixteen. He has sold off his entire 151 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: jewelry business, He's taken the winnings from that. He got 152 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: a workshop in a banded warehouse, and he started trying 153 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: to make his bread slicer. But something terrible happened the 154 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: very next year. It's true disaster struck in nineteen seventeen, 155 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: in the form of a warehouse fire that engulfed in 156 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: flamed his prototype, along with all of his early drawings 157 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: and blueprints. Uh, and all of the time that he 158 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: had invested into this endeavor. But he he was he 159 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: was ununh unshaken, unflapped, and he got back to work, 160 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: even though he was set back like almost a decade, 161 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: which to me would I don't know, I would move 162 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: on maybe, I don't know. It's the whole sunken cost 163 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: fallacy thing. But he really believed in this product. So 164 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen eight he had had, you know, made up 165 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: for all this lost time. You gotta think that he 166 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: he had to have learned some lessons from it, even 167 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: if they were just filed away in his memory banks. Right. Uh, 168 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been all for not. But he got 169 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: back on his feet in ninety eight and he had 170 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: a fully working machine, not a prototype, the real deal. Uh. 171 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: And not only did it slice bread, but it wrapped 172 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: it as well. Did we talk about the original expression 173 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: that led to the best thing since sliced bread? We 174 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: haven't yet lay it, honest. Yeah, the original expression was 175 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: the best thing since wrapped bread. So his thing was 176 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: like the best best thing, the double best thing, because 177 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: it could wrap bread and slice bread. But you couldn't 178 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: pick a variable thickness. You think he would have taken 179 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: that ten years to come up with that. I'm sorry, 180 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave Auto alone. He's suffered enough. There's a 181 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: lot of soul searching that he went through, you know, 182 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: and good good for him. It reminds me of that 183 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: Rigard Kipling poem, if which is Ridgard Kipling is a 184 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: terrible person, but my god, that's a great poem. So 185 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: you're right. We know that he did successfully. After a 186 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: total of fourteen fifteen years of struggle, he did get 187 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: his machine on the market and the first ever pre 188 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: sliced sloafe of bread went on sale on July seven, 189 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: eighteen eight, when Frank Bench, who was a guy who 190 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: knew role her personally, took a chance. He bought a 191 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: bread slicing machine and he installed it at his baking 192 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: company in Missouri. The original name was sliced Clean made 193 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: Bread That's clean spelled k L e E N. I 194 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: love that. I love it when people take good word 195 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: and for just no real reason spell it with a 196 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: K or a que or a Z. I don't know, man, 197 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: it freaks me out, like i've you know, here in 198 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: the South you can find a lot of little, little 199 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: mom and pop restaurants that call themselves some variety of 200 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: like country cooking with two k's, and then always rendered 201 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: me out. I don't trust it. I don't know why, 202 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: but I don't. There's a place around the corner for 203 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: me called duck corner. Cafe, and the corner is spelled 204 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: with a K, and cafe has spelled with a kid inexplicably, Like, 205 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: are they trying to communicate some level of quirkiness that's 206 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: going to translate it to their food? Like, oh, yeah, 207 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: I want a quirky breakfast sandwich. You know, I know 208 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. I had I remember says 209 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the episode, but I remember growing 210 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: up some of my more conspiratorially minded friends would be like, hey, Ben, 211 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: all the businesses that put those k's in there, they're 212 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: signaling that they're uh, they're pro ku Klux Klan, And 213 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: that seemed like a reach. That's like that old conspiracy 214 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: about the band three eleven. You remember that one. Well 215 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: three eleven was an inside job, right, uh, and that's 216 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: an Eric Andre rip off. I didn't make that up. No, 217 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: well what no, that that that it's that it was 218 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: KKK eleventh letter three times. Yeah. I three elevens about 219 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: the least white super there's a bunch of white dudes 220 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: trying to play reggae. I mean that might be a 221 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: little culturally appropriated, but I don't think it's uh terroristic. Yeah, 222 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: I think it's safe. To say, at least you have 223 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: you have the official word from us here in ridiculous history. 224 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: We are sure three eleven is not upfront for for 225 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: the ku kux Klan. Let's put this, let's put this 226 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: to rest. Casey Pegram, what do you think three eleven 227 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: terrorists or non terrorists? I was about to say, yes, um, 228 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps aesthetic terrorists, but no, I think I think 229 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: their intentions are relatively pure. Alright, fair enough, Casey on 230 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: the case. It's been a while since we did one 231 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: of these. I miss it. Uh So like you said, 232 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: that original statement that calling this spread the greatest forward 233 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: step in the baking industry since bread was wrapped came 234 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: from an advertisement, but apparently people didn't cotton to it. 235 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: Right off the jump, there's a fascinating book by an 236 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: author named Don Vorhees called Why do Doughnuts Have Holes? 237 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: Fascinating facts about what we eat and drink, And according 238 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: to Don, when these loaves were originally sold, people kind 239 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: of didn't want to buy them because they thought they 240 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: looked sloppy. They thought they looked, you know, uh, kind 241 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: of gross. They didn't look like neatly sliced, and they 242 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: also seemed to go stale faster. Did you see that, Tunal, No, 243 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: but I know it to be true. And and they also, well, 244 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. It depends. There's so many preservatives and 245 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: loaf bread that you buy at the store. Now, if 246 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: you do tend to buy a nice loaf of bread 247 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: from a local baker, uh, which don't come priest slice, 248 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: you can usually ask them to slice them for you. 249 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: But um, those will go stale and or moldy quicker 250 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: than a store bought loaf will because of all the preservatives. 251 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good point, real wetter. Still didn't give up, 252 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: And I think this is inspiring. Otto said, Okay, they 253 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: don't like they think my bread sloppy. They think I 254 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: got a lackluster loaf. I'll show them. And he made 255 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: these um pins. They're shaped like the capital letter you, 256 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: and they would hold the loaf together so that when 257 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: people went and saw it on the shelf, it would 258 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: look you know, more uniform, less haphazard. And apparently that worked. 259 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I see. So the issue with the sloppiness is more 260 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: an optics thing on the shelf, like it look, you're 261 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: looking in the bag of bread and it's all just 262 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: willy nilly, just kind of like you know, a loaf 263 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: is meant to be held together, and it has this 264 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: sort of very comforting kind of continuity to it. So 265 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: this sort of preserved that continuity, right absolutely. But according 266 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: to the Smithsonian Museum, the weird thing is this Smithsonian, 267 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: by the way, does have one of roe Edders original 268 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: bread slicers the second iteration. Anyway, the according to the Smithsonian, 269 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: some people were just sloppiness or staleness aside. Some people 270 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: were just weirded out by the idea of pre sliced bread. 271 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: It confused them, it startled them. A newspaper said, quote 272 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: the yoself slice bread maybe startling to some people. Certainly 273 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: it represents a definite departure for the usual manner of 274 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: supplying the consumer with fake People don't like change, people 275 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: fear change. It's so funny because now it's just it's 276 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: like it's a cliche, the idea of saying the best 277 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: thing since sliced bread, uh, sliced bread being like one 278 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: of the oldest innovations on the planet and the most 279 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: just like taken for granted thing in the world. Right, 280 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: if you go to that smith I'm sorry American History 281 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: dot s I dot et U article, the best loan 282 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: since sliced Bread by Christina Ross, who is apparently an intern, 283 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: a very scrappy intern, if I may say so, from 284 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen, so she's likely not an intern anymore. 285 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: But there is a picture of the first ever roan 286 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: or bread slicing machine, um, and it is. It is 287 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: a really serious piece of machinery. I mean it's like 288 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: it's like a cotton gin or something like. It's a 289 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: really hardcore industrial piece of equipment. This isn't something that 290 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: you would like have in your living room. This is 291 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: very much like a a tool of industry. Yeah, it 292 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: does not look like it's for the home kitchen. It 293 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: also looks heavy as heck. There's something that uh, it's 294 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: something I think the three of us really enjoyed here 295 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: in the research um from Gabe pointed this out that 296 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: since this seems so unfamiliar and alien to people, they 297 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: actually took out ads that included get this instructions for 298 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: how to operate the loaf of bread. Did you see these? No? No, No, 299 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: lay it on. It's a three step process. And this 300 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: is verbatim from the ad. Number one open wrapper at 301 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: one end, Number two pull out pin. That's that U 302 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: shaped pin number three, remove as many slices as desired. 303 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: I guess some people thought you could only pull out 304 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: one slice at a time. Maybe some people, I don't know. Man, 305 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: We're people like opening both ends of the wrapper and 306 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: just sort of like punching it through the cylinder. Anyway, 307 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: we've all seen these weird instructions and products for stuff 308 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: that kind of seems easy. Not to sound elitist, but 309 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you ever seen things 310 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: that feel kind of like dummy instructions on things you buy, 311 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: you know, Ben I have. But at the same time, 312 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: I think we take for granted how dumb some people 313 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: truly are. Oh yeah, I never take for granted how 314 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: dumb I am. Uh, And I'm one of the dumbest 315 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: people I know. Man, that is not true. You need 316 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: to give yourself more credit than my friend. I won't 317 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: stand for it. Oh man, Well, thank you, thank you. 318 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: I stand on the shoulders of giants. This self deprecating 319 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: behavior will not stand, sir. Thanks so Uh. The thing 320 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: is that the pin turned out to be a problem, 321 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: and we you know, you'll look at your local your 322 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 1: local loaf in your grocery store, your kitchen and you'll 323 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: notice that it does not, in fact have two U 324 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: shaped pins holding the loaf together. Uh. People were having 325 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: a problem because you would have to take the pin out, 326 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: take a slice of bread, and then put the pin 327 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: back in. It was an extra step and people didn't 328 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: really like it, so row it or modified the machine, 329 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: and now all the slice sloads were just wrapped in 330 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: wax paper. So it still solves the problem of them 331 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: looking sloppy, because nobody wants to just buy a pile 332 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: of bread. I guess was the problem. But then it 333 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: also takes that pin out. And I gotta tell you, I, 334 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: as you guys know, I'm real weird about uh metal 335 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 1: touching food, so I don't I think I honestly would 336 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: have been one of those people who saw a slice 337 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: bread in the store in the nine twenties and thought, 338 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: no way, this is ungodly. Hmm. And also all this 339 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: talk of pulling out and putting back in pins made 340 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: me think of the loaves of bread were somehow like 341 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: explosive or something I don't know, like bread grenades. Yeah, 342 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: I think it's an idea. Come on, man, let's bread 343 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: grenades might be you know what. People listening to this 344 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: years from now might be like, God, those guys were 345 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: pressing it. No, no, than the new The new phrase 346 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: will be the best thing since bread grenades. There we go, 347 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: put it on a T shirt. Let's get some new 348 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: T shirts like that. I will if the printing shops 349 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: ever opened back up again. Oh gosh, Well, at least 350 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: in the story of real weather, we know that he Ultimately, 351 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: after years of laborious loaf related labor, found success and 352 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: bread sales skyrocketed more and more people. People weren't just 353 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: eating sliced bread. They were eating more bread in general 354 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:37,239 Speaker 1: than ever before. Like within five years after tons of 355 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 1: bakeries across the United States had bread slicing machines, and 356 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 1: eighty percent of all of the bread produced in the 357 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: entire country came sliced. It's true, but I'll tell you, 358 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: ben Um, there's nothing like an innovation taken off and 359 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: making people happy to get the government up in arms 360 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 1: and ready to ban it. You are so right, my friend. 361 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: Fast forward nineteen forty three. People still love bread. Everybody 362 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: loves bread. They love it slice two except for there's 363 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: one guy. He's gotta who's gotta beef with it. His 364 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: name is Claude are Wickered. He is the head of 365 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: the War Foods Administration. He's also the Secretary of Agriculture, 366 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: and on January eighth, nineteen forty three, for some reason, 367 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: he bans pre sliced bread. He had a beef with 368 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: pre sliced bread. He was old school, you know. He 369 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: maybe he didn't like metal either. It's really unclear. Let's 370 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: see we can get to the bottom of why he 371 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: had such a problem. Uh yeah, he did that on 372 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: January eighteenth of nineteen forty three. The specific reasons, they're 373 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: not clear at all, not even not even now. It's 374 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: it's a total mystery. Uh. They they're speculation that. Um 375 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: he felt as though it was a man are of 376 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: conserving resources during wartime, right because he was the War 377 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: Foods Administration. So he claimed that there was something to 378 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: do with conserving uh wax, paper, wheat, and steel. Yeah, okay, 379 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: so this is weird. This is some real grinch level thinking. 380 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: And this guy was kind of playing a grinch, whatever 381 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: his motivations were. So the War Food Administration was created 382 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: entirely to make sure there was enough food to feed 383 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: the civilian population and enough food to feed the military 384 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:41,719 Speaker 1: abroad and they wanted to prevent food waste. Food waste 385 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: is still a huge problem here in so Claude says, 386 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: you know what my beef was slic spread is that 387 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: people like it too much and it's too easy for 388 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: people to eat as much as they want. So banning 389 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: slice spread makes the loaf a little more inconvenient. But 390 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: that wasn't enough for him. He also made a very 391 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: strange authoritarian law for local bakeries. And this one, this 392 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: one is massively irritating to me. Yeah it's true. Um. 393 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: He said that local bakeries could not sell their bread, 394 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: their unsliced bread until it was twelve hours old. Gross. 395 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: So wait, so you're like legally mandating us and then 396 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: by us, I mean the Royal US, the US of 397 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: the time, uh to stay day old bread, which usually 398 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 1: you buy at a discount. I mean bread is meant 399 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: to be you know, obviously, like I said, with the 400 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: preservatives of the stuff you buy in the store, certainly 401 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: you could never expect it to be like, you know, 402 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: fresh out of the oven. But if you're buying it 403 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: at a bakery, you want it fresh out of the oven, 404 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: damn it right, You want that, You want that fluffy, 405 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: fresh taste. The reason that they put in this crazy 406 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: law is that Uncle Sam thought if bread, what if 407 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: all the bread you were gonna buy was going to 408 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: be stale, then people would stop buying as much, and 409 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: maybe they would even resort to baking their own bread 410 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: at home or give it up entirely, meaning there was 411 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: more more wheat, more grain, more bread to circulate in 412 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: the wartime population. That's so messed up, man. It seems 413 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: to really target small businesses, you know, like that's literally 414 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: trying to cripple them and their supply chain, which I 415 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: mean whatever, you know, desperate times and all that, but 416 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: it seems a little draconian, don't you think. I agree. 417 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: We still, like, as we just said, we still don't 418 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: fully understand the band, but we know that it might 419 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: have come because, uh, there was a ten percent rise 420 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: in the price of flour. Anyway, It's strange. Um, you 421 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: can see the logic, right, They thought that they would 422 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: be able to incentivize people to eat less bread and 423 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: consume less flour. But what what about the wax paper conservation? 424 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: So pre sliced bread had to use wax paper that 425 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: was way thicker than the loaves that were sold whole 426 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: and that was because you know, again they were trying 427 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: to preserve the freshness and keep it from growing stale. 428 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: So that was wrapped in wax paper. So it wasn't 429 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: like in a plastic sleeve like we see today with 430 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: a bread tie. It was literally the whole thing was 431 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: just wrapped in wax paper. Yeah yeah, yeah, that replaced 432 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: the pin. And you know, other unsliced loaves also had 433 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: wax paper, but they had much thinner wax paper. And 434 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: so the thing that's weird about this is that bread 435 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: companies already had a ton of wax paper supplies. They're 436 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: like those people who hoard toilet paper. They had enough 437 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: wax paper to keep them rapid loaves for months and months, 438 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: even if they didn't buy anything else. So it really 439 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: seems like there wasn't a big thing to like, a 440 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: big benefit to gain from banning wax paper. The wheat 441 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: flower argument makes a little bit more sense, but even 442 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't check out. I mean, this this is why 443 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: some historians say it was maybe more an issue of 444 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: conserving metal, because, like you said, no, those electric bread 445 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: slicing machines are heavy duty. Huh, that's true. I mean, 446 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: they really do almost look like a implement of war. 447 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: You could probably make, you know, a handful of machine guns, 448 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, with the materials you would use to make 449 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: one bread slicing machine. And at the end of the day, 450 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: isn't it just kind of a luxury? You know, I'm 451 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 1: trying to see both sides here, Like there's really nothing 452 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: about if anything, I would think maybe slicing bread does 453 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: make it go bad quicker because there's more touch points 454 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: right um, and and every time you reach in there, 455 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: you're touching the bread. I don't know, I'm overthinking this, 456 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: but I do think that, you know, slice bread is 457 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: a luxury, and even today, sure, I guess it's convenient. 458 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: But when I buy my bread from the baker or 459 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: like a baguette or something, I don't get it pret sliced. 460 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: I sliced it my damn self. Yeah, I I tend 461 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: to I tend to like the bakery bread more than 462 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: the slice bread on the shelf. Not to be elitist 463 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: or something. It's just like, if I have the opportunity, 464 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: then I'll try to get what in my head I 465 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: call the good bread. You know what everybody has, something like, Yeah, 466 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: a good steamy loaf, quit steamy loaf. Uh. In context, 467 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I'm talking about. Out of context, Oh, 468 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: I wonder if something else entirely, Yeah, I wonder if 469 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: that clips gonna come back to haunt us the way 470 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: that this policy came back to haunt Claude wickered, Thanks man. Uh. 471 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: It's true, though, isn't it Like even though we can 472 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: guess at what he was trying to do, it really 473 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: looks like he was just trying to save a couple 474 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: of pennies in the budget, and he had to pay 475 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: a grievous price for this because people did not take 476 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: this well, oh, yeah, that's putting it lightly. I mean 477 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: it was you know, people don't like to have the 478 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: things taken away from them that they are have. You 479 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: have have become accustomed to that in their minds. Is 480 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: is a natural born right, and the right to sliced bread. 481 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: Everybody remembers that one from the constitution. Um. But no, 482 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: at the very least, it was incredibly unpopular. On January Uh, 483 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: Sue Forrester Um, who was a woman from fair Fairfield, Connecticut, 484 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 1: wrote a letter to the editor in the Times, the 485 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: New York Times. Um, and she was speaking on behalf 486 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: of all of the country's housewives. We have We have 487 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: this from an article from Mental Flaws, the time US 488 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: government banned sliced bread, and she says, I quote, I 489 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: should like to let you know how important sliced bread 490 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: is to the morale and saneness of a household. Okay, okay, 491 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: the morale and sane this of a household. They really 492 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: didn't like slicing that bread, did they? Yeah? Yeah, and 493 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: uh they go into detail about this. Sioue Forrester says 494 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: she's been forced to hand cut more than thirty slices 495 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: of bread every day for family. She says this is 496 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: a waste of American time and energy, and it's also 497 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: a waste of money because you know, she says, a 498 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: good bread knife is difficult to find, let alone afford 499 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: during the war. And that's not to mention a good man. 500 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: There we go, right, Oh, what about our marriage prospects 501 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: to list? Sigh. So people got as mad at this 502 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: band as they did at things like gasoline rationing. We 503 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: have an account from a nineteen three issue of Time 504 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: where they have the falling expert US housewife says Time 505 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: vainly searched for grandmother's serrated bread knife, routed sleepy husbands 506 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: out of bed held don conferences over bakery handouts, which 507 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: read like a golf lesson, keep your head down, keep 508 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: your eye on the loaf, and don't bear down. They 509 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: were the time was basically saying, a bunch of people 510 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: have forgotten how to slice a loaf of bread. I 511 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: think we buried the loaf here. Keep your eye on 512 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: the loaf. Yeah, that's just that is some some very 513 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: powerful rhetoric right there. Um it really, it's got me 514 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: all full of fervor and patriotism. Yeah, and this this 515 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: is interesting because this leads us to the saying that 516 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: we all know today. Because of this band, people started 517 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: referring to things as the best thing since slice bread. 518 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: That's true. Nothing I'll make you appreciate something more than 519 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: when it's taken away from you. And the New York 520 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: Times published, uh that, more than one letter from other 521 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: very um crestfallen housewives homemakers, and it really became kind 522 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: of part of the zeitgey so that this was a real, 523 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: a real blow tomorrow during a very difficult time already. Yeah, yeah, 524 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: it's in fact, it was it was so unpopular that 525 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: no one in the US government wanted to confess to 526 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: having the idea or supporting it. So Claude wickered was 527 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: really caught out there. You know he was gonna be, uh, 528 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: the scapegoat in this situation. Oh and okay, all of 529 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: my trash talk about bread slicing, I want to walk 530 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: that back a little bit. I am not a head 531 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: of household with multiple children that has to be responsible 532 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: for meal prep. And let's not forget the sandwich. The 533 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: humble sandwich was kind of the uh, the centerpiece for 534 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of these grab and go meals. So let's 535 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: get a little deeper into this letter to the editor 536 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: from our Connecticut housewife. She goes on to say, my 537 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: husband and four children are all in a rush before, during, 538 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: and after breakfast without ready sliced bread. I must do 539 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: the slicing for toast two pieces for each one. That's ten. 540 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: For their lunches, I must cut by hand at least 541 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: twenty slices for two sandwiches a piece. They get two 542 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: sandwiches a piece. That's it was a different time, it 543 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: really was. Afterwards, I make my own toast twenty two 544 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: slices of bread to be cut in a hurry. They 545 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: look less appetizing than the baker's neat even pieces. Haven't 546 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: the bakers already their bread slicing machines and for thousands 547 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: of loaves? Yeah, and she's coming from a real sincere 548 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: upset place, like you said, she's She's not the only one. 549 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think about the numbers. They didn't think about 550 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: the math behind this. That's a lot of bread slicing, 551 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: and the numbers add up really quickly, all right. So 552 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: another thing that made this rule so unpopular was that 553 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: it caught everybody by surprise. The Chicago Tribune reported the 554 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: governmental band on the sale of slice bread, effective yesterday, 555 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 1: caught hundreds of cargo housewives by surprise and sent them 556 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: scurry into hardware stores to raid depleted supplies bred knives. 557 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't know why he sounds like that, but that's 558 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: the guy. Oh no, it's absolutely the guy. I remember. 559 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: I remember the newscasts. Now, there were some there were 560 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: some some loopholes. So hotels, restaurants, and railroad dining cars 561 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: were given a sixty day grace period, uh to prepare. 562 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: Bakeries that didn't play ball until the line got hit 563 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: with some pretty steep fines and they were warned that 564 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: the government was prepared to take stern measures if necessary. 565 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: But some other, uh, some other proponents seemed like they 566 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: they quickly regretted their decision. That's where we gotta we 567 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: gotta mention this one guy, just because I love his name, 568 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: A Meal Fink. I bet he got a bad rap 569 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: for like being like a scoundrel. You know, you can't 570 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: have a last name like that, and and and and 571 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: emerge unscathed. Yes, a Meal Fink. He was a baker 572 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 1: and also a member of the New York City Baker's 573 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: advisory committee. And actually he was kind of the villain here. 574 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: He's the one who pushed hard for the bread slicing band. 575 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: But a year later, Fink found himself in a courtroom 576 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: forget this slicing brand, hypocrite, bad look. Yeah. The New 577 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: York Times reported um that U S attorney read Fink 578 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: the Riot Act and and and said Fink called upon 579 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: the government to enforce the regulation rigidly. And at the 580 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: very time his bakery was violating the law. He was 581 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: fined a thousand dollars. You want to inflation and calculate that, 582 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: b boy, I'm gonna say five thousand dollars. Let's see, 583 00:34:55,440 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: let's see so, casey, if we could get a drum roll, please, 584 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars in nineteen forty four is equal to 585 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand, six hundred dollars today. I was way off. 586 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: I was way off, and that's a pretty steep penalty. 587 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: But I think he had it coming for that. Uh, 588 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: that most egregious sin of hypocrisy. Yeah. Yeah, and and 589 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: Baker like it makes you think that Fink had I 590 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: feel bad. I feel like it's nominative determinism to call 591 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: him Fink, but but it feels like it feels like 592 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: his angle was that he wanted to make sure he 593 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: was one of the only bakeriries selling slice spread to 594 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,839 Speaker 1: get ahead. He was trying to make a big I think, despicable. Despicable, 595 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: but the band wasn't even saving money at all. Like 596 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Baker's were losing cash because of this. Oh yeah, it's true. 597 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: The sale as were dropping in the neighborhood of five 598 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: as much as ten percent, according to the Harrisburg Telegraph. 599 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: There's a quote from that article from nineteen forty three 600 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: in February. Uh. While all bakers have varied reasons for 601 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: the prevailing decrease, they all agree at the absence of 602 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: sliced bread is at least playing some part in the drop. Uh, 603 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: where's your boy auto in all of this? That's a 604 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: great question because Otto was very much alive. He lived 605 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: until November eighth, nineteen sixty, so he definitely had I'm 606 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: sure he had strong thoughts about this. He was, you know, 607 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: this was his career. He sold the patent to his 608 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: invention to another company. Like he was, he was doing 609 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: pretty well off. So he definitely had a race in 610 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: the game. But he had already made his nickels by 611 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: the time this this kicks in. That's right? Is that 612 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 1: a did I make that? Is that? I think people 613 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: say make your nickels, that's the thing. But I tell 614 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: you what isn't a thing? Is he already had his 615 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: race in the game. Think I think you were combining 616 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: skin in the game with horse in the race in 617 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: the games. I love it. No, No, I think we 618 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: should use that. That should be our new thing. He 619 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: already had a race in the game. I really really 620 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: like that a lot. Actually, Oh, thanks man, thanks for 621 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: the catch. It's it's wild over here, folks, No worries. Dude, Hey, 622 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,720 Speaker 1: we gotta keep each other on at while we're slowly 623 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: losing our mind in isolation. Oh yeah, yeah, Well hopefully 624 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: it will be to the enjoyment of you, dear dear 625 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: ridiculous historians. Uh. We have a little bit we have 626 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,400 Speaker 1: a little bit more to add here, which is that 627 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: the band was thankfully lifted only three months after it 628 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: went into law. Right. It was like march, I want 629 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 1: to say, m that's right. Um, it was lifted and 630 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: there was a public statement made from the war production board. Uh. 631 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: And it actually, do you know, to his credit, kind 632 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 1: of cop to the thing being a failure, saying, quote, 633 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: savings are not as much as were expected, leaving it 634 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: at that uh, and that there was enough wax paper 635 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: to go around and wrap sliced bread uh for four months. 636 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: So you know, bully for them for sort of owning 637 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: their their debacle. You know, if we could, I think 638 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: a good place to put a button in a bow 639 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: on This story is a great headline from the New 640 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: York Times when when the band was lifted, The New 641 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: York Times published an article reading, slice bread put back 642 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: on sale, Housewives thumbs safe again. Thank God, Thy God 643 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: for think of the thumbs, all the thumbs. Oh yeah, 644 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean at the very least they're getting nicked left 645 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: and right. Uh. I would love to see some statistics 646 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: about how many outright, uh, severed thumbs occurred at the 647 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: hands of unsliced bread. I mean that that slice math 648 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: really gets to you. You know, I'm glad you put 649 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: that in. Oh. I want to say before we end 650 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 1: today's episode, guys, I want to do a clarification because 651 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: you know, credit where credits do is very important to me. 652 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: And earlier, uh, in a previous episode, we went on 653 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: this delightful little run of Quentin Tarantino based Quarantine puns. 654 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: You remember that. I'm gonna be real with you, guys. 655 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,600 Speaker 1: They weren't very good. Can we do better this time? 656 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: Can we raise the bar? Well? I wanted to credit 657 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: one of our friends on Twitter because you guys said, oh, 658 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: Quentin Quarantino is pretty good. It got me thinking and 659 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: I was like, did I make that up? Because that's 660 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: really good for someone like me to make up on 661 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: the fly, And I wanted to give a shout out. 662 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: I think I've found this and just acts like misremembered 663 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: it on Twitter. We have a Twitter friend who goes 664 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: by the hand dole Quentin Quarantino, so kealthy at Kealthy Underscore. 665 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: If you're out there, thank you so much when I 666 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: wanted to give you credit where credit was due, because 667 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,800 Speaker 1: I think it just got stuck in my head. I 668 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: love that name. It happens and that's true. Um, well, 669 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Kealthy. Is it Kelsey and you 670 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: just developed a list all of a sudden or is 671 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: it no? Kealthy? Okay, kealthy. That's interesting. It makes me 672 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: feel like I'm speaking with a list. Well, this was 673 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: a fun episode, Ben, Can we take a minute. Uh, 674 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just have this idea, uh to 675 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: to grab find an object that's around you, somewhere in 676 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: your workspace and describe it to the listeners. Uh yeah, 677 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: yeah here, Um, let's see, I'm in a weird spot. 678 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: Why don't you want to do the honors? Yeah, I got, 679 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: I got, I've got. I've got one just in mind. 680 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 1: It's something I bought it a cheap o dollar store. 681 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 1: It's a w W F R E uh miniature figures 682 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: and they're like little mini wrestlers, just Jake the Snake 683 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: and all Timate Warrior and this guy wearing chains and 684 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: they're all completely flesh nude colored. Here, let me show you, guys, 685 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: you can actually see. Oh nice. But they're called muscle. 686 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: But it's an acronym, and you know how much I 687 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: love acronyms. So there's a dot between every one of 688 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: these letters, and it stands for millions of unusual small 689 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: creatures lurking everywhere that's not sinister at all. They didn't 690 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: so it sounds like the oh is not part of 691 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: the acronym. There. They often leave the oh. It's usually 692 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: only the capitalized letters in a in a title, right, 693 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: the oh is a there's a word for it. But yeah, okay, 694 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: so that's my object. Okay, I've got I've got something 695 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: uh that just stuck up there. I think you'll you'll 696 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: like your noel I have. I've been cleaning up a 697 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff and I found how weirdly synchronistic is this? 698 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: I found my old shoe box of muscle men. Do 699 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: you remember these guys muscle men? Yeah, you know what 700 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: I'm talking about? Are they kind of like my little 701 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: muscle guys? They're exactly the same. I think they might 702 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: be the same. There's this is an old school kind 703 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: of toy. I think some of our listeners will remember yeah, 704 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: but their nude color, their flesh color, they're all flesh color, 705 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: just like my little guys. Yeah. Oh, I've got some 706 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: that are like, I don't know what color this is, 707 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: but I've got something like that. Okay, Yeah, and then 708 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: they've got some knockoff ones. That's so weird that we 709 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,800 Speaker 1: both that's really funny. And they're they're the they're the 710 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: most useless little toys. They don't bend or pose. Choking 711 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: hazards is what they are. Really. Yeah, but they're stylish. 712 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: I thought that would be more fun than looking at 713 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: the hydrated food I have that we uh, we recorded 714 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: another show today, folks for stuff they want you to 715 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: know with our rideer Dies Paul, Mission Control and U 716 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick. Where we were we were talking about some 717 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: of the things in our in our quarantine zones. But 718 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: that's a fun game, man, you wanna you wanna make 719 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: that a regular thing. I don't know. It's just kind 720 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: of fun to humanize our our spaces and show that 721 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: we're just nerds like everybody else, and that we have 722 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: a cluttered, uh messy desks just like every just like 723 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: everybody else. Casey, did you find anything in your closet space. 724 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: All right, Well, this space is primarily for books and 725 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 1: movies and camera equipment, so I don't really have anything 726 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: endearing like a you know, a figurine in a toy 727 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: or something in here. But I did find this book. Uh. 728 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,879 Speaker 1: It's by Otessa Mashveg. It's called My Year of Rest 729 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,479 Speaker 1: and Realaxation, and uh, it came out maybe a couple 730 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: of years ago, and it's about a woman who, through 731 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: pharmaceutical means, decides that she's going to sleep for an 732 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: entire year. So, um, I don't know. I thought that 733 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: was an appropriate pick for a current to quarantine situation. 734 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: I bet that I would be down with that at 735 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: least for a couple of maybe weeks or maybe a 736 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: month or so. But yeah, wow, very very appropriate for 737 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: these are plague times. It reminds me of that sleep 738 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: study that was going around for a while where they 739 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: would pay participants to lay prone for like thirty or 740 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: ninety days. Uh. I had a friend who got really 741 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 1: close to actually doing that. Sounds yeah, you had to 742 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 1: lay down, that was the rule. You had to always 743 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: be laying down because they wanted to see what kind 744 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 1: of horrible things would happen to your body and then 745 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: nuts basically right bed swords. You probably lose muscle tone, 746 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: I bet because you're not walking around. But let's not 747 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: end on that note. Let's end on let's end on 748 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: a big thank you, So thank you, not just to auto, 749 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: but thanks to everybody for tuning in. You know, we 750 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: hope you're healthy, we hope you're happy. Uh. We hope 751 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: that if you are hanging out on the Internet, like 752 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of us are these days, uh, that that 753 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 1: you drop our digital way and say hello to us 754 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, not just as our show ridiculous history, 755 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: but also say hello to us as individuals were. Um, 756 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: we're online a lot. It's true. You can find me 757 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: exclusively on Instagram at how now Noel Brown, where you 758 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,600 Speaker 1: can follow my quarantiney situation. Uh. I might be posting 759 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: some of these ambient dreamscape guitar pieces that I've been 760 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: sort of talking about here and there. Um, so stay 761 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: tuned for that on my on my stories and you 762 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: can find me at Ben bolan hsw on Twitter. I've 763 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: been fielding a candidly. I've been fielding a lot of 764 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: questions about prepping or survival kind of situations. I'm always 765 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: around to answer those. Uh. And I'm also updating to 766 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: the minute with developments both here and at another show 767 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: called Strange News Dailies. Do you check it out? You 768 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: can see my misadventures on Instagram at Ben Bolan. Uh. 769 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: You know, I fell for starting to post a lot 770 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: of memes. I'm sorry, you know, I know the world's 771 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: in a real troubled place, but the memes they give 772 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: me light and love in troubled times, you know, say, 773 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: my friend and I always find light and love all 774 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: over your stories and uh and your feed my friend, 775 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 1: uh and I appreciate that very much. And please do 776 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 1: check out Strange News Daily for a daily dose of 777 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: exactly what the show name implies, strange news and these 778 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: are strange times. Oh man, thank you so much. Well, 779 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: we'll see how it works out. We just quick by 780 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: peep behind the curtain by the way. Uh. In addition 781 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: to doing our show, Ridiculous History that's very near and 782 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: dear to our hearts, Uh, the three of us are 783 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: continually making a ton of other shows, and we don't 784 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: always shout them out because we don't, you know, Uh, 785 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: we want to make sure each one is special. But 786 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 1: we also we sometimes at least for you guys. Sometimes 787 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: I lose track of which ones are already out and 788 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,439 Speaker 1: which ones are still secret. But I just want to say, 789 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: and I hope you don't get mad at me about 790 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: this though, I just want to say that are my 791 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: good friend. Mr Brown here has has quite a few 792 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: fascinating things on the way, uh, including of course Dear 793 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: Young Rocker. If you haven't checked that out, give it 794 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: a listen. Yeah, thanks, Ben. That one just wrapped up 795 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: in partnership with Jake Brennan, who does the wonderful rock 796 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: true crime kind of hybrid show Disgrace Land. He has 797 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 1: an imprint called Double Elvis uh that he has several 798 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: shows um partnering up with us on the I Heart 799 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: podcast network, and one of them is Dear Young Rocker 800 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 1: with Chelsea Urson, who you saw or heard rather on 801 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: the show very recently talking about the Ponzi scheme, the 802 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 1: history of the Ponzi Scheme. He also has another one 803 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 1: that's really great that just came out called Citizen Critic, 804 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,959 Speaker 1: where Scott Janovitz and Greg connolly h take on hot 805 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: takes from professional and amateur critics alike. So it's a 806 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: show where they critique the critics and it's quite delightful. Uh. 807 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: And that show is ongoing on the I Heart podcast 808 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: network as we speak, bless shout out. This is just 809 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: this is a fun one and we want to mention 810 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 1: it to you might hear it on our feet. Um, Noel, 811 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: you and I a while back when people could still 812 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 1: travel more easily, you and I went on Food Court, 813 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: which is the show we appeared on. Maybe our good 814 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: pal Christopher hasciotis hosted by none other than Richard Blaze. Uh. 815 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: That episode is coming out or should be out soon. 816 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,879 Speaker 1: And I listened to it. I don't know what you thought, Noeld, 817 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: but I thought it was a lot of fun. It 818 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: was a good time. I think I may have shouted 819 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: that out previously and said that it was already out. 820 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 1: That was not true. Uh, it is now by this 821 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: point out in the world. I think, as it comes 822 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: out on Tuesday of next week. In this episode also 823 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: comes out on Tuesday of next week, so they should 824 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 1: be dropping the same exact day we debate with each other. Um, 825 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: two sides of a very hot button food issue. Um. 826 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: I took the side of sausage and you the side 827 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 1: of bacon. And you'll have to listen to find out 828 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: who who came out on top. But it's a wonderful show. 829 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,239 Speaker 1: Richard Blaze is a fantastic host and judge, very fair 830 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 1: and uh, I was really he's done. He actually followed 831 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: me on Instagram and I felt like a million bucks. 832 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 1: And he's been posting all these great isolation cooking videos 833 00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: on his story and he was making a something called 834 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 1: a ramen. Uh lot key saw that, Yeah, and it 835 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: looked really, really fantastic. And he's a really sweet guy. 836 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: So check out food corep with Richard Blaze. His nachos 837 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,839 Speaker 1: are on point too if you're if you're a food 838 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,279 Speaker 1: pick fanatic like me and he and he has a 839 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: chicken restaurant called crack Shack that they don't have any 840 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,240 Speaker 1: around here, but it looks incredible. Talk about good looking, 841 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: decadent chicken sandwiches. Yeah, he's he's my internet buddy. Now 842 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: we're hoping to get him on our show soon. So 843 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: get a preview of our our interaction by checking out 844 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:45,160 Speaker 1: Food Court. As always, thank you so much to our 845 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: super producer Casey Pegram Casey. I'm gonna find a book 846 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,439 Speaker 1: for our next quarantine spotting because I feel a little 847 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 1: weird that you had something amazing and literate and I 848 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: was like, hey, look at my choebox of toys. But 849 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,920 Speaker 1: but thank you, thank you as always for being the 850 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: uh the best uh half of our show. I'm not 851 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: good at the math. But also thank you as always 852 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: the gab Lozier. Gabe Lozier indeed, and we hope to 853 00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: have him on very very soon. Thanks to Jonathan Strickland, 854 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: the notorious quiz Sir. I think we already thank Christophrastiotis 855 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 1: in talking about Food Corp. Huge thanks to Alex Williams 856 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,759 Speaker 1: who composed this very theme that you hear within your 857 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: ear holes. Um and uh and thanks to you Ben 858 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,919 Speaker 1: for being a pal and being a Quarantine podcast mate. 859 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: Um I, I really I look forward to these times 860 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: and and look forward to keeping it rolling with you, sir. Likewise, 861 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 1: likewise no uh in In the meantime, of course, as always, 862 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, uh, we like to think that we're our 863 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: show is a community. Uh So if you want to 864 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: contact us on on a personal level, we always love 865 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: to hear from you. Let us know what's going in 866 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: your neck of the woods and let us hey, let 867 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: us know what your weirdest uh food history story is. 868 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: We could read about this all day. We'll see next time, folks. 869 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from my Heart Radio, visit the I 870 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,320 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to 871 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 1: your favorite shows.