1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Canf I AM six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Mark Thompson sitting in for John as he takes the 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: fourth of July week. We're here on KFI AM six forty. 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: I heard everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. We are live. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: We've got the whole John Cobilt crew. I am just 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: happy to be sitting in the in the captain's chair 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: for a moment. I'll get right into it. I mean, 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: it's a huge news day with the major bill and 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: piece of legislation out of this administration staggering across the 11 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: finish line. And mean it took a jd vance break 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: of the tie at fifty to fifty to get it 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: to fifty one. Fifty isn't fifty one to fifty? Also, 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: the code for what is that? Like a shrink thing 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: or a crazy Yeah. I think that is the medical 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: psychological term. Yes, exactly. Anyway, on this we go to 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: Washington and great reporting from Ashley Fields over at the Hill. 18 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: I welcome you to KFI. Hi, Ashley, Hi, how are you? 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: I am well and a I'm a Washingtonian. You know, 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: I grew up there and my dad actually taught at 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: Howard University, where I see that you graduated from Howard. 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: That's right, go buy me, I got a right. Well, 23 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 2: that means you know Washington pretty damn well. And I 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: know you've done a lot of reporting around this legislation. 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: Tell us what happened, because it really was. It was 26 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: a nail bier. There's a lot in the bill that 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: people wanted. There's a lot in the bill that people didn't. 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: I'm talking about senators. 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: That's correct. It's a stormy day in Washington. But people 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: can look to the Hill for clarity. One of the 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: major points of contention within the bill was the touch 32 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: to Medicaid. There are definitely going to be work requirements 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: in order for people to maintain their eligibility providers. In 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: addition to that, the same situation is going on with 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: food stamp programs, and so there's a bunch of shifts 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 3: and changes that will be in effect if the Senate 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 3: bill is able to sustain itself in the House. There's 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 3: a couple of other interesting factors within the Senate approved 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 3: legislation that would include capping unsubsidized student loans at twenty 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: five hundred dollars per year and one hundred thousand dollars 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: per lifetime for graduate students. Those who are borrowing for 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: professional degrees like doctors and lawyers would be capped at 43 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: fifty thousand per year and two hundred thousand dollars per lifetime. 44 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: So there's a caveat there. There are Trump accounts is 45 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: in the bill where each child born within the next 46 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: year starting in twenty twenty six, would having one thousand 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: dollars investment funded by the Treasury Department, and that would 48 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: accumulate growth over time. And so there's a bunch of 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: different positives and negatives that people are spending as we 50 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: look to see what will happen in the House in 51 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: the next few days. 52 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 2: The medicating snap provisions, they were really somewhat radioactive. You know. 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to call them the third rail because 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: they're not quite Social Security, like messing with that. But 55 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: there were promises on the part of the President not 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: to touch medicaid, and yet this bill does touch Medicaid. 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. The Senate version of the bill would 58 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: cut more than one trillion dollars from Medicaid compared to 59 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 3: the previous House version, which would have cut eight hundred 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: billion dollars, and so that's something to consider. The new 61 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: work requirements would be for people who are between the 62 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 3: ages of nineteen to sixty four, and they now have 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: to prove that they're working or in school for at 64 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: least eighty hours per month. This would begin on December 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: thirty first, twenty twenty six, if passed and approved. So 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: technically they're not just removing people from Medicaid, but they 67 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: are changing work requirements, and they are creating stipulations that 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 3: could serve as a barrier for low income families and 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: those with disabilities. 70 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of paperwork associated with demonstrating that 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: you are looking for work or employed to the right, 72 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 2: the idea isn't just because you know, you could say, hey, look, 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: if somebody's not out there and they're not making an 74 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: effort to find a job or at a job, they're 75 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: not making an effort, then why am I, as a 76 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: tax payer subsidizing their medicaid. The answer is that the 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 2: new legislation, I guess that would sort of means test 78 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: this if you will. It's build enough paperwork that people 79 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: are saying yeah, But as a technical matter, Americans just 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: aren't going to do that. They're not going to wade 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: through hip deep paperwork just to prove that they're employed. 82 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. And so this new bill approved by 83 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: the Senate again would require Medicaid to conduct eligibility redeterminations 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: for coverage every six months rather than once per year, 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: which is the way the current policy works. So people 86 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 3: are definitely going to be required to, you know, sort 87 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 3: of prove what they're doing each day out of the month, 88 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 3: how much time and effort they're putting into school or 89 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 3: a job in order to continue receiving these benefits. 90 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: Talking to Ashley Field who was in Washington for the Hill, 91 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: and you know, in Fox polling that I saw just 92 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: over one thousand registered voters nationwide, only thirty eight percent 93 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: favored this bill. In fact, fifty nine percent opposed it. 94 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: That didn't seem to move the meter in the end, though, huh. 95 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: Not at all. But it did move the needle for some, 96 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: including Senator Tom Tillis, who said that he would vote 97 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: against the bill and did because he you know, said 98 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: he was not going to run for realletion and felt 99 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: openly comfortable and saying that President Trump was going against 100 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: promises that he made to the American people. And so 101 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: as you just mentioned, you know, they're Americans who were 102 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: dissatisfied with what was within the bill. And as President 103 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: Trump aims to find this legislation on July fourth, there 104 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: are going to be a series of protests across the 105 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: country coming from this big, beautiful bill Act and the 106 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: measures that it would create or impose for communities across 107 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 3: the country. 108 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: Well, it makes the corporate tax cuts permanent. You know, 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: there was a sunset on them. And there's also it's 110 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: interesting and I just find this sort of in the 111 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: I smile at this kind of category that some of 112 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 2: the stuff that's in the legislation, like the deduction of 113 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 2: interest on auto loans and the Trump the accounts that 114 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 2: you were talking about for newborns and children that was 115 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: really interesting. You did touch on it, but they're calling 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 2: them Trump savings accounts. You know. The part that I 117 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: smile about is presidents always looking to brand stuff with 118 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 2: his name. 119 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 3: That's correct. You know, he found that with the Trump 120 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: tax cuts from twenty seventeen, he was able to make 121 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: a lot of headway with voters. It was something that 122 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: was memorable. So the White House is seeking to do 123 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: the same thing with these Trump accounts also was in 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 3: the bill. We know that the cap on state and 125 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 3: local tax deduction would be raised from ten thousand dollars 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: to forty thousand dollars, which is another measure that the 127 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 3: White House has been campaigning on. And the child tax credit, 128 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: if the Senate bill is approved, would increase to two 129 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: tho two hundred dollars. So there are definitely some caveats 130 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: for individuals and families that the Trump administration is you know, 131 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: hammering down on. 132 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: So when we see the pushback that we saw from Murkowski, Collins, 133 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: till Us, Josh Hawley also that on some level is 134 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: performative Ashley. I mean, they make the points so that 135 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: their constituencies can be aware of the fact that they 136 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: push back because the deep cuts to Medicaid, for example, 137 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: but in the end they vote for the bill to 138 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: get it across the finish line. 139 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes that does happen, And as we know, we're heading 140 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 3: into a very crucial year with the term elections, and 141 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: so that's one of the reasons Tom Tillis again decided 142 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: to step back and say he would not put himself 143 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: in the dig for another Senate, uh Senate, a Senate 144 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: term because he knew that, you know, this could potentially 145 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: post some barriers to another re election. 146 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: So and well, when till started squeaking, right, till Us 147 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 2: started pointing out the fact that, you know, mister President, 148 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: you promised you weren't going to touch medicaid. This bill 149 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: guts medicaid, et cetera. All of his words that were 150 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: quite pointed toward President Trump. President Trump didn't waste any 151 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 2: time to say, hey, great, glad you feel that way, 152 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: We'll see in the primaries. We're going to knock you 153 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 2: out office. And Tillis said, you know what, I'm going 154 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 2: to tap out. This is the end of it. That's 155 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 2: kind of the way it went down. 156 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 3: Right, That's exactly the way it went down. And so 157 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: a lot of Republicans now, you know, not only are 158 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: they speaking out with the consciousness of what their constituency 159 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: might think, but they're also you know, speaking out and 160 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: being aware that the president is closely monitoring, you know, 161 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: what is being said, conversations that are being had, and 162 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: who he believes he can trust as a loyal partner 163 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 3: within Congress. So it's a very interesting time, especially with 164 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: the Trump administration right now. 165 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: Ashley, real quick, the the deficit increase the debt that 166 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: this all runs up. I believe it was the CBO 167 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: that had put the figure. Where was it that some 168 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: It's in the trillions, right, four. 169 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: Trillion dollars, that's correct, Yeah, four trillion dollars. And so 170 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: President Trump has argued that with tariffs, with the rollback 171 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: of electric vehicle credits, and a boost and manufacturing and 172 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 3: some other measures that he plans to take on throughout 173 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: the next few months, that this large debt could be 174 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: possibly covered through other initiatives and measures. And so that's 175 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: something that it'll be good to keep an eye on 176 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: and watch how it plays out. 177 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it will be. Well, you'll be doing that. 178 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Love the Hill, Love you for 179 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: spending a few moments with us, Ashley Fields, thank you. 180 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: And let's stay in touch on this all right. Uh yeah, 181 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: the reporting of The Hill has been really strong on this. 182 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: It's I'll share one thing about this big, beautiful bill. 183 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: This isn't a criticism of it, per se. I'm not 184 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: really we can do that another time. But I am 185 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: surprised by one super curious fact, and it relates to 186 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: the last thing we're talking about, which is about a 187 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: debt increase because they could have easily done something within 188 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 2: the bill and they didn't do it. And I'm again 189 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: it's a head scratcher to me. I'll share that with you, 190 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: and everybody would have been okay with it, I think, 191 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: But maybe you can tell me why they didn't. Anyway, 192 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what that is. As we follow up 193 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: in a few minutes. Mark Thompson here for John COVID 194 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: it's the John Covelt Show or KFI AM six forty 195 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 2: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 196 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 197 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: six forty. 198 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: What I was saying about the one Big Beautiful Bill 199 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 2: as it's called, that made it through the Senate with 200 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: the winning vote cast by Vice President jd Vance. There 201 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: was a lot of sweat about this. I never really 202 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 2: thought that it wouldn't get across. I mean, I think 203 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: a lot of this is performative. We talked about it yesterday, 204 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: the fact, in fact talked about it with the ABC 205 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: News correspondence and others who were watching it, and we 206 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: just mentioned it a moment ago. The fact that one 207 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: needs to sometimes make a speech, sometimes go public with 208 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: certain reservations about passing a big bill like this which 209 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: includes a real ding to Medicaid, for example, which is 210 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: in many cases in the Senate, something that constituencies of 211 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: red states very much take advantage of. Anyway, you need 212 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: to make noise about this stuff so that your constituents know, hey, 213 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: you know my guy, generically my senator cares about this 214 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 2: and is bothered by this part of the bill. That way, 215 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: when you go back for reelection. This is true in 216 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: the House as well. Obviously you can say, hey, I 217 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: brought this up. I tried to get this modified. And 218 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: so it was with Lisa Murkowski. She made enough noise 219 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: that she was able to actually peel off some gifts 220 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 2: to her constituents to the state of Alaska. Some of 221 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 2: them were vetoed by the parliamentarian because they didn't have 222 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: enough to do with the money associated with this bill, 223 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: which is really what has to be as you know, 224 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: the rule of the day. It doesn't have to do 225 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: with money, then you can't pass it in the way 226 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: that they wanted to pass it, which was a simple majority. 227 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: So the parliamentarian stepped in the case of Murkowski, said hey, 228 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: I understand you want to give her all this stuff 229 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: but like these three things, you can't give her. So anyway, 230 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: she got some gifts and giveaways for the state of Alaska, 231 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: but others pushed away, I mean Ran Paul pushed away, 232 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Tom Tillis, we talked about him, Susan Collins, they all 233 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: opposed the bill. But Murkowski of Alaska, she again, having 234 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: received some of these provisions that were beneficial to her state, 235 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: she the horse trading necessarily and gave them the vote 236 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: from her. And then it was Jade Vans, Who've got 237 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 2: it across the finish line. Now what's interesting to me, 238 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: just as a practical matter, is you've got bill here, 239 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: got a bill that's going to go to four trillion, 240 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: looks like based on CBO analysis and that's you know, 241 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 2: again independent analysis. And they're obviously tax cuts and benefits 242 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: that were first passed under the first Trump administration that 243 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: we're going to expire later this year. Now they are permanent. 244 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: And their new eligibility requirements for food stamps and Medicaid, 245 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: who talked about that some of that stuff is designed 246 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: just to get people off the rolls. They make the 247 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 2: paperwork so daunting, and as you know, when you're dealing 248 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 2: with any paperwork, but certainly government paperwork and certainly government 249 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: handout paperwork. It has to be done perfectly in order 250 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: to get it, so that could mean twelve million Americans 251 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: lose coverage within the next nine years. In any case, 252 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: this will get dinged around a bit in the House 253 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: of Representatives. Also, obviously it has to go back there 254 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: and there'll be a second vote, and it'll then go 255 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: to Trump's desk for signature. Doubt it'll happen by the 256 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: fourth of July, which was wanted, but never know. Anyway, 257 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: this four trillion what's interesting to me. And by the way, 258 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: that four trillion is a trillion more than the House bill. Okay, 259 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: so there's actually a much bigger price tag coming out 260 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: of the Senate bill than the House bill. But one 261 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: of the big things, and you've heard it talked about, 262 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 2: and we've mentioned it numerous times, and other hosts on 263 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: this station have talked about it as well, is the 264 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: ding on Medicaid. I mean, the Medicaid support for low 265 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: income families and rural health care providers. We've talked about 266 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: rural hospitals that depend on Medicaid money. I mean, that's 267 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 2: a real issue, right, And you're talking about what would 268 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: be another trillion dollars on the US credit card. Now 269 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: I can see all the arguments in the world for 270 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: why you don't want to run up the debt. I mean, 271 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: you know, you keep running up this debt, and when 272 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: you need to spend like a COVID nineteen outbreak, like 273 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: an eight market crash, when you need that money, you 274 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: can't spend it because you're already in so much debt. 275 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: So I get that argument, and maybe that's the reason 276 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: that the Senate and House they don't address this medicaid thing. 277 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: I would have thought, hey, guys, if you're going to 278 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: run into so many political headwinds because this medicaid thing, 279 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: why don't you just include it. It's only another trillion dollars. 280 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: And you guys don't seem to care about all these trillions. 281 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: You're at four trillion, now, what's five trillion? It seems 282 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: odd perhaps, but to me that might be politically more 283 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 2: palatable than what they decided to do, which was to 284 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 2: historically cut and medicaid in these programs that their constituencies 285 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: depend on. So again, if you look at the projected debt, 286 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: you could have increased that projected debt for close to 287 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 2: a trillion dollars. That is what the Medicare bill is. 288 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: It's a little under that, and in so doing, no 289 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: one has to give up anything. They decided not to 290 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: do it, and they're still likely a price to pay 291 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: for the way they did it when we come back. 292 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 2: It is a big story. In fact, I would say legally, boy, 293 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff in the legal pipeline that 294 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: are equally getting attention. I'm thinking about the Sean Combs 295 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: p Didy case and this case involving the plea deal 296 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: in Idaho. These Idaho college murders, Bryan Koberger agreeing to 297 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: a plea deal and the family is furious, I say 298 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: the family. There are multiple families involved. I mean, after all, 299 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: these are four college students murdered in cold blood, and 300 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: this guy will never actually have to face the families 301 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: in court. We'll talk to Alex Stone from ABC. Next, 302 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: it's the John co Belt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in 303 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: for John on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on 304 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 305 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 306 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 4: six forty. 307 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: I listened with interest as the details of the new 308 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 2: Trump cologne become available. 309 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 5: I are you going to buy some? 310 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: It's a little pricey at two forty nine a bottle, 311 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: it's expensive. I mean I was thinking of something I'd 312 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 2: like to, you know, pick up a little gifty of 313 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: some sort. 314 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 5: Well, do you know somebody that wants to smell like 315 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 5: President tru. 316 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: I do, And he's we're going to talk to him 317 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 2: next Alex Stone. Oh I know, Oh yeah, Alex Stone. 318 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: I think would be this is the kind of fragrance 319 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: that would whip people's head around, you know what I mean. 320 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 6: Oh, but you know what, don't go cheap? But two 321 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 6: forty nine? Can you go for the five hundred dollars bottle? 322 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: Thank you? He's right when he talks about a more 323 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 2: expensive bottle. Two forty nine is just kind of the 324 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 2: entry price. I think they have a you know, if 325 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: you want to it depends how much Colonne you're going 326 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: to need. I mean I see it as kind of 327 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: a holiday, special occasion thing when you want to smell 328 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: like success. 329 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, well it is just hanging out of mar A Lago. 330 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 6: But okay, you know they want to spell like mar 331 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 6: A Lago. 332 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: It is called Victory cologne. As Deborah was detailing, and 333 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 2: I'll take a meeting on a Debora. You will, Yeah, 334 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 2: if you want like a stocking stuffer for. 335 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 5: Me, I was going to say, maybe, you know what, 336 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 5: I'll get it for Alex because he seems really maybe 337 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 5: I'll get one for each of you, thank you. I'm 338 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 5: not going to go for five dollars. 339 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: Look, I'm not going to fight with Alex Stone over 340 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 2: who gets the cologne that week. So you better get 341 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 2: it either for both of us or for neither of us. Yes, 342 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: all right, Alex is here to talk about a grizzly 343 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: thing but also a legal thing. It's the Idaho College murders. 344 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: This Brian Koberger. I mean, he murdered these four Idaho 345 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: college students in their sleep, and he makes a plea 346 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 2: deal and the family doesn't seem the families, I should say, 347 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: don't seem at all happy. 348 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, and I mean allegedly at this point 349 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 6: he did it, because he hasn't actually changed his plea yet. Well, tomorrow, 350 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 6: I'm outside of the the Ada County Courthouse in Emboisi 351 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 6: right now, and this is where he's going to walk 352 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 6: in tomorrow, and if all goes according to plan, tell 353 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 6: the judge that he now admits to these crimes that 354 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 6: he's fought for three years, and that he has claimed 355 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 6: and his attorneys have said that the DNA can't be trusted, 356 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 6: and that the evidence was collected illegally, and the warrants 357 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 6: are not legal, and cell phone data is not accurate, 358 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 6: and the judge has come against all of that and said, no, 359 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 6: that's going to be allowed in It seems like they 360 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 6: got to the point where they didn't think there was 361 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 6: any way they were going to get in a quittle here. 362 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 6: And we understand that last week the defense, Brian Coberger's 363 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 6: defense team came to prosecutors and said, let's make a deal, 364 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 6: give us a deal and if you take the death pedalty, 365 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 6: which here at Idaho is a firing squad is a 366 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 6: primary means of death. Fairly knew that was brought into 367 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 6: effects several months ago, that he does not want the 368 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 6: firing squad and let's get a deal. So that the 369 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 6: discussions began last week and the families they're not happy 370 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 6: about this whatsoever. Kaylee Gonzalvez, one of the victims, her 371 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 6: dad Steve, is livid about this. He says they were 372 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 6: not brought into it. They heard there were discussions on Friday, 373 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 6: and then on Monday they got an email or on 374 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 6: Sunday night they got an email telling him it was 375 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 6: a done deal and that there would be no trial. 376 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 6: And they they're angry. They want this to go to trial. 377 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 6: They feel like a trial that they will learn where 378 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 6: the murder weapon is or was, what the motive of 379 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 6: it was, what went down inside the house on King 380 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 6: Road in Moscow, Idaho, and all of that they may 381 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 6: never know because there will be no trial, there will 382 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 6: be no testimony. But they also want them to get 383 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 6: the firing squad. They want them to put to death 384 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 6: for what he still allegedly but if he really does 385 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 6: plead guilty tomorrow what he did, but at this point 386 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 6: looks like he'll avoid that, he'll get life in prison. 387 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 2: You lay it out well in making me begin to 388 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: understand why the families wanted their moment in court, Why 389 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: they want a lot of these grizzly details out there, 390 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: as you say, motive, etc. They want to know that 391 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: as well. But I wonder why the families weren't consulted. 392 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: From what I'm hearing, there was not a lot of 393 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 2: consultation with those families about this deal. 394 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, they say that they had that discussion on Friday, 395 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 6: they were going to heads up on a call, and 396 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 6: then it went forward without them, and so that the 397 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 6: judge may have some questions about that. Tomorrow. The judge 398 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 6: could torpedo this whole thing if he wanted to. Unlikely 399 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 6: when there's an agreement between the prosecution and the defense. Look, 400 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 6: it's beneficial to both sides because the defense is going 401 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 6: to avoid the death penalty. The prosecution avoids millions of 402 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 6: dollars spent on what was going to be a three 403 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 6: to four month trial that we were all going to 404 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 6: be here covering that was going to begin in a 405 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 6: couple of weeks. That they know they get a conviction. 406 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 6: You never know with the jury what you're going to 407 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,479 Speaker 6: get in the end. You may think that you've got 408 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 6: great evidence and the jury may acquit him or decide 409 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 6: do they want to go with a lesser charge or 410 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 6: something like that. And this gets rid of years of appeals. 411 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 6: He is going to admit that he committed these crimes 412 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 6: that he will not appeal. He's going to go to 413 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 6: prison for the rest of his life for life terms 414 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 6: will be the deal for the murders. Ten more years 415 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 6: for burglary for entering the King Roade home, and they 416 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 6: know he's going to be put away and it won't 417 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 6: go through, especially on a death penalty case. He would 418 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 6: have gone through probably decades of appeals and the high 419 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 6: profile you know, death penalty case in California where there's 420 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 6: still appealing and trying to get the cases overturned. So 421 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: this ends all of that and he just you know, 422 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 6: when it happens tomorrow, there will be a sentencing date set, 423 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 6: probably at the end of July. He'll get that sentence 424 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 6: and then he'll go off to prison for the rest 425 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 6: of his life. 426 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: Alex Stone, thank you. The deal is done. It would 427 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: seem as Alex says, it'll be finalized tomorrow. In that 428 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 2: Idaho college murder case. Always good to talk to you. 429 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, my friend. 430 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 6: Send me Trump cologne up here to the Ada County Courthouse. Please, 431 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 6: he'll be waiting for it. 432 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 2: You'll be able to smell it coming all right. So 433 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: also another verdict that was a plea deal. This is 434 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: an actual verdict in the p Diddy case. 435 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, this is just coming in now. We have a 436 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 5: partial verdict that has been reached in the Seawan diddycomb 437 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 5: sex trafficking and racketeering case. So it's not clear when 438 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 5: this is going to be announced. But again the jury 439 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: says that it does have a partial verdict in this 440 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 5: Sean Diddycomb's case, so we are waiting to hear more. 441 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 5: We don't know when this is going to be announced. 442 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 5: But this did not take very long at all. 443 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: No, this is amazing, especially since they had a hiccup 444 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: in the first hour. 445 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 5: With that juror and then five notes were sent to 446 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 5: the judge. 447 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: Bye, you were thinking we're going to be doing this 448 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 2: dance for a while, but as it turns out, all right. 449 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 2: So we're watching this minute to minute in the KFI 450 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: newsroom and we'll give you more details obviously as we 451 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: get them. It's John Cobelt Joe Mark Thompson sitting in 452 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 2: for John on KFI A six forty Live everywhere on 453 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. 454 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 455 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 4: six forty. 456 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: John is away Mark Thompson here. We're just watching the 457 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: situation with the Sean Combe's Ditty trial and it's been 458 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: an interesting It's only the second day of deliberations, right, Deborah, Yeah, 459 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: that's it. 460 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 5: So well, this this just happened. So the jury has 461 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 5: reached a verdict on four of five counts, and the 462 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 5: is indicating that the jury is going to keep on deliberating. 463 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 5: So I don't know if we're going to get something 464 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 5: today or something tomorrow, but four out of five is 465 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 5: what they have a verdict on. 466 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: They've sent the judge six notes, including one this afternoon. 467 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: He has five criminal counts. It's racketeering conspiracy, two counts 468 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: of sex trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion, and two 469 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. Of course, he 470 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: denies all of it, and there's a considerable body of 471 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: opinion that feels as though he's going to walk. Really, 472 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: I know, that's what I said. Really, there seems to 473 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: be so much in the way of testimony. And again, 474 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 2: just speaking of testimony, the jury has asked that certain 475 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: testimony be read back to them, and they've asked to 476 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: review you the key witness testimony. Again, you can tell 477 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 2: me does that mean they're leaning toward me a quittal 478 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 2: and mean, you know, I don't know that you can 479 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 2: tell much from that. It's ah, it would be extraordinary 480 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: for me with with with the kind of evidence they have, 481 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 2: the nature of the crime, the video, evidence of him 482 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 2: being so abusive to his girlfriend. I mean that, you know, 483 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 2: the attempt to suppress that video. You know, he paid 484 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars to a hotel worker to try 485 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: to get rid of that video. It would be extraordinary 486 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 2: if you walk. But there is you know, people I 487 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: respect and who watch this stuff for saying, I don't know, 488 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: I think he might anyway, the jury has reached a 489 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,959 Speaker 2: partial verdict. Will continue to watch it for you. I 490 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 2: need a lawyer actually personally. How come you know I 491 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: was coming back from the tennis match in the desert, 492 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: and you know, when you're driving that on the ten 493 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 2: back into La It was about twenty miles out of town. 494 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: It was night time, like I want to say, ten 495 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: o'clock at night. Was there with my pal. We just 496 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: come for the tennis, went down there just for the day. 497 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm in the carpool lane and Devor the car got 498 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 2: away from me. I you know, it's I was going fast, 499 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: so the speed got away from me. Oh, I was 500 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: going to say, I don't mean to say. I don't 501 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: even say it was an accident. No, I don't have 502 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 2: any accidents on my record, and I thought to myself, 503 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 2: I don't have any speeding tickets on my record. So 504 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: when they sent me the speeding ticket, the guy was 505 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 2: very nice and it was all just sort of like, 506 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: this is the problem. I just didn't view it as 507 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 2: a big deal when he sent me the ticket, and 508 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: when the court sent me the ticket, I just had 509 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: the view just pay it. You know, it's not a 510 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: big deal. I'm not going to go to traffic court 511 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: over it, just going to pay it. Well, that may 512 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: have been one of the most expensive things that I've 513 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: done from a decision making a standpoint in years. It's 514 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: incredibly expensive. How much so the ticket isn't expensive. The 515 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: ticket is expensive. Actually, the ticket was like you want 516 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: to say, it's like four hundred dollars, Like, wow, that's 517 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: a lot. But okay, I'm done with it. You know, 518 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 2: it's a stupid thing. I was going too fast. I mean, 519 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 2: I wasn't going insanely fast, but maybe you know, I 520 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: was going above the limit, NA fifteen above the limit 521 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: and now here is where the shoe pinches. Uh my insurance, 522 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: my car insurance. Oh yeah, yeah, it's thousands of dollars 523 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: a year. And this is I'm shopping it right now, 524 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: and it's it's a ton of money. And they all 525 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: say it's because of the moving violation that one decision 526 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 2: not to contest or not to go to traffic school 527 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: or in any. 528 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 5: Way bad decision. 529 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so let this be a word to all of you. 530 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: Because the officer even said, oh, you're for traffic school. 531 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: You have not a ticket in a long time. I said, 532 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 2: oh great, I'm thinking to myself, I'm not going to 533 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: traffic school. I'll just pay it. And you know, we 534 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: got here. 535 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 5: You can do traffic school online. I mean it's a 536 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 5: pain in that you know what, sure it really is. 537 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: But you know what's a pain, and that you know 538 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: what paying thousands of dollars for car insurance? Oh I know. 539 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 2: And so yeah, I was actually looking into once you've 540 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 2: paid the ticket, and this again might be news you 541 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: can use, as they used to say, the ability that 542 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: you have to go back and get traffic schooled, or 543 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: get the points removed from your license, or get the 544 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: whole thing expunged or whatever. It goes away the minute 545 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: you pay the ticket, because that's viewed as an admission 546 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: of guilt. And so if you want to try to 547 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: get that vacated or expunged. You can't do it in 548 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: the case of a traffic ticket unless maybe they're maybe 549 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, the dense beard of justice 550 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: might be able to do it, you know what I 551 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: mean the Yeah, don't you think I mean if I anything, Yeah, yeah, 552 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 2: but I'm throwing more at a situation that's already costing 553 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: me a bunch, you know. 554 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 5: Mark, Sometimes you know, we have to we learn our 555 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 5: lessons and they're not easy, which is true, spoken like 556 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: a good mother, right, yeah, I know. 557 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Not even sweet James can get me out of 558 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 2: this show. 559 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 5: I don't think so. 560 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 6: I mean, you never know. 561 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet James, if you're out there, I'm putting up 562 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: the bad beam. I need help. Come on. But when 563 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: they offer you that traffic school, take at kids, because 564 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: otherwise that insurance is excruciatingly expensive. I'm sorry. 565 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 5: I don't mean to be so judgy, but I'm really 566 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 5: surprised that you didn't do the traffic school. 567 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: No, thank you. I'm worthy of all the judginess and 568 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: all the whip what do they call that self flagellation 569 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: or that thing that they do The monks used to 570 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: do where they whipped themselves. Oh yeah, yeah, that's what 571 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: I feel like I need like a whole day of that. 572 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 2: I am so angry at myself. It's just it's brutal. 573 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: But it's also it's also a squeeze I think by 574 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: the insurance companies. 575 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 5: Oh, don't even get me started. John and I talk 576 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 5: about insurance companies and the insurance commissioner and what he 577 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 5: isn't doing. 578 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: All the time. I mean, you know, it's one thing 579 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: to talk about crime on the streets. It's not talking 580 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 2: thing of to talk about crime that's hitting you every 581 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: month in an envelope, and that's coming from the insurance company. 582 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's really it's stealing. They should get a 583 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: mask and a gun and just come take my money. 584 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. It really is excessive if you look. And 585 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: this is just in my case, of course, we see 586 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 2: it in now with the way that insurance companies are 587 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: pulling out of California where their rate increases are being 588 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: green La. 589 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 5: I mean, in some instances, it's crazy. 590 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: I mean it's obscene, it really is. And in my case, 591 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: you look at my driving record, it's impeccable. Okay, so 592 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: I have this taken not anymore, and it's thirty six months. 593 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: It's on your record. I've learned more about this in 594 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: the last day than I ever wanted to know. Oh, 595 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm really sorry, Thank you. And again, if there's a 596 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 2: there's a good lawyer out there it wants to take 597 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 2: a crack at it. But I think it's a I 598 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: think it's a done deal. I think it's a deal. 599 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 2: I'm no lawyer, but yeah, when we come back, there 600 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,719 Speaker 2: is landmark environmental legislation that is getting erased here in 601 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: California by the governor. Yeah, two bills written by Democrats. 602 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: You know, you associate them with environmental legislation. That's why 603 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: I mention it. But they are serving another purpose and 604 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 2: another end. We'll get to that as we continue. And 605 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: also watching the Diddy trial, which again there is a 606 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 2: partial verdict on, and Michael Monks joins us on the 607 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: entire sanctuary city pushback between Mayor Bass and the Trump 608 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: administration that has only gotten uglier. We'll do it next. 609 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: It's the John Cobalt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in on 610 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: KFI AM six forty. 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