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You support 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: your team, we support your family, your business, We support you. 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Mickey Spagnola and Bill Jones, It's Wednesday 9 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: night at seven o'clock and you know what that means. 10 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: It's time for the Dallas Cowboys Legend Show from the 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco, Texas, home of 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys. I am Bill Jones along with Mickey Spagnola. Mickey, 13 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: this is the biggest week of the season for the 14 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Well, it's the biggest game of the season. 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: It gets Tampa Bay on Sunday at noons. That's the 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: way I look at it, right, exactly right. Every week 17 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: is the biggest game of the season, but this really 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: is the biggest game. Now, you don't want to just 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: prolong this thing getting into the last game of the 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: season and give the Giants a reason to want to play, right, 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Of course, the Cowboys can clinch the 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: NFC East if they beat Tampa Bay. There are other 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: scenarios that will clinch the East. But we're talking Cowboys 24 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: legends and we're talking NFL legends this week here on 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys Legend Show. Mickey, it is a real treat 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: to welcome into the house a true legend, Mike Singletary, 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Legend Show. Mike. Hello, great to be here. 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for doing this. This is great, right, 29 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: great to have you here. See, I have to think 30 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: outside the box. You did think outside the box. And 31 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, I'm assuming for Mike Singletary who lived early 32 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: on in Dallas and then moved to Houston. You probably 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: grew up somewhat of a Cowboys fan, didn't you? A 34 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: very big Cowboy fan? Very really yes, yes, even while 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: you were growing up in Houston. Huh, absolutely yes, because well, 36 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I was a huge Roger starback fan. 37 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: I thought um Rod to star back. Um. When you 38 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: had a quarterback like that, you always felt like you 39 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: had a chance to win. So I really liked him. 40 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: I liked this a competitiveness and of course um Lee, 41 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: Roy Jordan and Bob Lilly, those guys that were great. 42 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary of course, Pro Football Hall of Famer with 43 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, College Football Hall of Famer with the 44 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: Baylor Bears at Houston Worthing High School were they're the Bears, 45 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: were the Colts. Okay, but I grew up in Houston. 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: I actually born in Dallas. Is at am I right now? 47 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: Actually born in Houston, born in Houston. But you live 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: for a time in Dallas, right shortly? Yeah? Shortly okay, 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: and then got back to Houston probably, yes, okay, all right, 50 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: very good. Well, it's great to have you here. Have 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: you been here to the Star before? Yes, I was 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: here not long ago with a function for high school. Yeah, 53 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: so that was pretty cool. But a beautiful facility. Right now, 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary COURSI you all know Mike Singletary coach in 55 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: the NFL as well. Right now you're head football coach 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: at Trinity Christian Academy or here in the in Addison, 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: and also in the spring, you'll be the head coach 58 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: of the Memphis franchise in the brand new Spring League, 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: the Alliance of American Football, the what the Memphis Express, right, Yes, yes, 60 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: so let's fill up your time now, I bet huh. 61 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's been pretty exciting. So how did you 62 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: get cooked up with the Trinity Christian? You know what 63 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: it was? I thought when the jobs were coming out 64 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: and didn't look like I was going to get the 65 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: job I was looking for. And Trinity Kristen they ended 66 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: up calling me. Uh, the the ad called me and said, hey, Mike, 67 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: what are you thinking about us? Well, I'm not sure 68 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: and he said, well let's meet. Said okay. And I 69 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: always wanted I never thought I'd have the opportunity to 70 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: coach high school football. But it was a great, great 71 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: scenario and and uh it was set up just right 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: and thankfully it worked out. Now these kids are what 73 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: fourteen to eighteen? Yes, did they know who you were 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: before they were told who you were? Well with all 75 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: of the social media and what happened today, yes, they 76 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: knew they can't get on YouTube. Oh yeah, So what 77 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: was that like? Going back and you know, getting into 78 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: high school scenario and coaching high school kids. It was 79 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: really great because you had an opportunity to coach at 80 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: at that level and the innocence of football and kids 81 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: that had that didn't know they had talent, kids that 82 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: could be pretty special and if they just worked at it, 83 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: and so being able to be there and helped him 84 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: understand what the possibilities were were. I mean, that was 85 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: absolutely a fantastic opportunity. It probably either learned patients or 86 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: test your patients. One of the two tests tests big tea, yes, 87 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: and how many kids do you have? Seven? Seven kids? 88 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: So he already Levey's a long time ago. Vicky had 89 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: a football team already, right, Yeah, but tell us about 90 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: this new spring league. Darryl Johnston, I know as the 91 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: general manager of the San Antonio franchise. I believe they're 92 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: the San Antonio Commanders. I see him on a weekly basis. 93 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: He does a television show here, Cowboys Inside of the 94 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: Airs on Fox Sports Southwest, and he's been busy putting 95 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: that team together, and so I know all the rosters 96 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: are kind of put together right now. And of course 97 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: your team was in the news here in the last 98 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: couple of weeks because you lost your quarterback Josh Johnson 99 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: or one of your quarterbacks anyway, a couple of weeks ago, 100 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: signed by the Washington Redskins and leads the Redskins to 101 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: a victory over Jacksonville this week. Yeah, it's it's it's 102 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: been an interesting time and I think it's amazing how 103 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: many football players there are out there that looking for 104 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity to play. And there's still a lot of 105 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: great talent. So right now it is just a busy 106 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: time trying to put the rosters together. I've talked to 107 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Darrell Johnson a couple of times talking about players that 108 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: either trying to get their rights to or get him 109 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: to release or hiver. That talk. It's a little tough 110 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: to deal with. So Mike, you said, you you kind 111 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: of start up that first week in January, that first 112 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: games February tenth, so you got one month to basically 113 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: put a football team together. Huh. Yes, that's gonna be 114 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: somewhat of a challenge, right, Oh, it's gonna be a 115 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: great challenge. I think that. Like I said, it's amazing 116 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: the amount of talent that's out there. I think we 117 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: have a staff that will do a great job of 118 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: helping these guys develop the chemistry and really developed the 119 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: atmosphere that we're looking for and we should be on 120 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: our way in a mile. Do you think these guys 121 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: are playing for they just want to love to play football, 122 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: or are they looking for maybe to start a second 123 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: chance for maybe some of the in the NFL to 124 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: recognize them. I think both. I think you know, whenever 125 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: you find guys that are still working out and they've 126 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: been released from a team two or three years, but 127 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: they still have the dream, they still carve out the 128 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: time in their lives to one day do it again. 129 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: And so to be in this situation, they're going to 130 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: take every advantage of it, and so um we're hoping 131 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: that we can do everything that we can to help 132 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: further their careers and take them to the next level. 133 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: And of course a lot of the players in the league, 134 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: fans are very familiar with a lot of these players 135 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: who are college stars as well. I love the calendar 136 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: is as far as how the league is set up, 137 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: because it starting playing games and will training camp in January, 138 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: games starting in February, and the season wraps up just 139 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: prior to when the real NFL offseason begins, so they 140 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: can catch on with an NFL team based on how 141 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: they play in the spring. Right, it's a it's great timing, 142 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: it's a great set up. I think the thought process 143 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: is absolutely fantastic. So I'm excited. Did you need convincing 144 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: to take that one or did you say, oh good, 145 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity I can keep my hand in coaching. Well, 146 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: I felt that when I talked to Bill Polian. Bill 147 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Polian was the one that called me and said, Mike, 148 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, I want to talk to you about this 149 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: new league. I know you want to coach, and I 150 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: think this is a great opportunity for you to jump 151 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: and jump in it at this level US a professional team, 152 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: and and let's see where it goes. Are you interested? 153 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: So yeah, let's let's keep talking. So it founded like 154 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: something that i'd really like to do. Talk to my 155 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: wife about it, and uh felt really good about the opportunity. 156 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: And it's a great match for your high school job 157 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: too at Trinity Christian too. You can coach them in 158 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: the fall and move on in the spring. Your coaching 159 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: staff includes coordinators David Lee, who is a former assistant 160 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: coach here on the Cowboys staff, and Winder Parcels going 161 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: back a decade or so, and then Dennis Thurman as 162 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator. Dennis was actually one of our legends 163 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 1: guest here earlier this season. He's looking aboard to it. Yeah, 164 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: so Dennis Lee, that one slipped by David David Lee. 165 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: David Lee, Yeah, I ran into David Leeue. I was 166 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: working in Jackson, Mississippi, and he was at Old miss 167 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: as the quarterback coach, trying to think of the quarterback 168 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: that was something Austin pretty good quarterback. And then John 169 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: Fourcade you might have remembered him, ended up with the 170 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Saints there for mid eighties. But David League went way 171 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: because he was you know, he was an assistant with 172 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Bill par ourselves at one time when they were I 173 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: believe Vanderbilt. Okay, yeah, let's go a way back. Yeah. Yeah. 174 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: And then so Bill, Yeah, Bill went aways and Steve 175 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: Sloan was the Yeah, that's right. Steve Sloan went to 176 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Texas Tech, right, and Bill Parcels was his defensive coordinator 177 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: at Texas Tech. Yeah, And he was about the same 178 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: time you know what, it was, about the same time 179 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary was playing at Baylor. Play your freshman year 180 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: a right, I mean you were what seventy seven to 181 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: eighty one, and I believe it was nineteen seventy seven. 182 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Parcels was a defensive coordinator at Texas Tech under Steve 183 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: Sloan and then he hit a good year. He hit 184 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: the trail on the Allison at quarterback. Yeah, to get 185 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: the Army right, yeah, yeah, yeah? So how did you 186 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: get the Baylor? You know what? It was the only 187 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: school that allowed that would allow me to play linebacker. Seriously, 188 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: it's the only Division One opportunity I had to play lineback. 189 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: What did they so? What was your size coming out 190 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: of high school? I'm gonna sit you away. I was 191 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: five to eleven is about two twenty Okay, what was 192 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: wrong with that phototype to what did they want you 193 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: to play? Well, you know what, they had some pretty 194 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: big guys at the time and thought, um that you know, 195 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: most teams thought, hey, you you'd be a much better 196 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: at a fullback or something like that, safety or whatever. Huh. 197 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: But no, I wanted to play middle linebacker and Grant 198 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: Taff game that opportunity. So you got to play for 199 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: Grant Taff. That's pretty neat deal the very specially did 200 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: you know about much about him until the recruiting process, 201 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 1: had no idea, had no idea who Baylor was. All 202 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: I knew was maybe Houston and um, maybe A and 203 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: M or something like that. With us about it, you know, 204 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Grant Taff of course took over at Baylor. I believe 205 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: it's nineteen seventy three, seventy four was their breakthrough season. 206 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: I believe with Neil Jeffrey at quarterback, passed her over 207 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: at Preston Wood just and um. And then of course 208 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: when Mike Singletary was at Baylor, I believe it was 209 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty first ten wins season in Baylor history. 210 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: Mike was a three time All Southwest Conference, two time 211 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: All America linebacker for the Baylor Bears. But the impact 212 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: that Grant Taff had on you must have been immense. 213 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: I was tremendous. Uh. He was a wonderful role model, father, 214 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: figured all of those things. And of course coming from 215 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: a broken home myself, it was just, um an absolute 216 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: wonderful time in my life to to find someone that 217 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: I could really emulate and and uh talk to about 218 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: certain things that young men need to talk about. So 219 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: it was a great time. And didn't you end up 220 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: what nineteen eighty ended up winning the Southwest Conference title? Yes, 221 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: that was I don't know if they had won it 222 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: previously or seventy four seventy four, right, Yeah, And when 223 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: you look at your career at Baylor, UM, and I 224 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: know there was there was talking. He actually interviewed for 225 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: the job at at a certain point about a decade ago, 226 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: but it wasn't right fit for yet that at that point. 227 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: H Was that something that was when you got back 228 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: into coaching. Was that something that you would had looked 229 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: at that that you thought, yeah, that the college level 230 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: might be where you would want to coach at some point. 231 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: You know, for me when I got back in coaching 232 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: at the NFL level, UM, it seemed to be. It 233 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 1: seemed to make sense. You know at the time, UM, 234 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: college college is is kind of a different game. It's 235 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: more of a fast paced game. It's more travel, is 236 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: more recruiting and things like that. So I thought, I'm 237 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: not sure, uh, if that's it. But UM, when when 238 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: Baylor came open, I thought maybe the opportunity would UM 239 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: would present itself. Mike Singletary and at Baylor, remember what 240 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: the record was for tackles in the game, Mickey, if 241 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: you heard this, I believe I have what's thirty five 242 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: thirty five I think multiple times, thirty five tackles in 243 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: a game. Uh, it was really interesting. I look back 244 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: at that time and it's like wow. But yeah, it 245 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 1: was one time against Houston. Well, one time was against Houston, 246 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: one time was against Arkansas, another time against I think 247 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Ohio State or something like that. So what you do 248 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: elbow everybody? Other way to say, I guess, get out 249 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: of the way. He had that Billy Yeoman veer offense 250 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: figured out just follow the ball. That's it. Just follow 251 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: the ball. And then I think I saw his totals 252 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: for his career. There was six hundred and sixty. I 253 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: thought dat Win had a lot of tackles Texas and 254 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: he had five hundred and fifty or so, and then 255 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: I saw yours. You're like six hundred and sixty two 256 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: something like that in Baylor, which was a record. I'm 257 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: guessing it still stands, probably especially since Baylor's at the 258 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: Big twelve and they don't tackle anything. No, I mean 259 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: very good, still too, hold on untackled anybody either, you know. 260 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: Two time winner of the Davy O'Brien Award too, back 261 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: when the Davey O'Brien was not the national quarterback Award, 262 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: but went to the top player in the southwest region 263 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: of the country. I believe you ever make it back 264 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: for the Davey O'Brien ceremony. I have a couple of 265 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: times that I've been back. Yeah, did you surprise yourself 266 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: with the success you had at Baylor? Or when you 267 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: got there, you're going, Okay, I got this, you know. 268 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: I obviously I wanted to be the absolute best that 269 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: I could possibly be, and so um I always set 270 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: high goals. I always believe that if I had the opportunity, 271 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: I could do it. And of course Grantaft gave me 272 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: that opportunity and I made the most of it, and 273 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of, you know, the story of my life. 274 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: All Right. We're just getting started here with Mike Singletarry. 275 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: Danny Serek has a wireless microphone. Those of you in 276 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: attendance here at the Cowboys Club, surely there are some 277 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: Baylor Bear fans in the house. Maybe some Chicago Bear 278 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: fans have filtered in two we go down memory lane 279 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: with Mike Singletary in just a moment here on the 280 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: Cowboys Legends back to the SWBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Legends show, 281 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. 282 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm summer right, Mike, I shopham cold part of the defense. 283 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: I've been jamming but quite a while, doing what's right 284 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: and setting the stick. Give me a chance, I'll rock 285 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: you good. Nobody mentioned I just came. Oh yeah, the 286 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl shuffled nineteen eighty five. Chicago Bears, one of 287 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: the greatest football teams in National Football League history, went 288 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: fifteen and one, of course, won the Super Bowl that year, 289 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: and Mike Singletary, our Cowboys Legends guest, was the NFL 290 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year that year, one of two 291 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: times in his career he was the NFL Defensive Player 292 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: of the Year. Featured in that Ryan forty six defense. 293 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: And what a season that was, and what a Super 294 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: Bowl shuffle that was. Mike Singletary, Mike was telling us 295 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: shut that off, as already heard that in play. That was. 296 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: That was the voice of Mike Singletary. There you mean 297 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: you don't listen to it once a month? Oh man? 298 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: I tried to burn everyone I could find. That was 299 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: one of the great greatest things ever. I would think 300 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: you that verse probably reverberated in your head for quite 301 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: a while you had just gotten it out of his 302 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: head and we just put it right back in. Yeah, 303 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun to do it. Uh, 304 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: it's bringing back a lot of great memories. And we 305 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: did that video after we lost to Miami Monday night football, 306 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: so that that next day we had to do the 307 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: video and um, a lot of guys were not in 308 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: the mood to do it, obviously, but it was It 309 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: was great because it really helped us to get focused. 310 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: We got the loss behind us and we we started 311 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: thinking about what we had before us and just got 312 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: back to work and left that day after doing the video. 313 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: We're in a great mood, We're having fun and it 314 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: was really a wonderful thing for us to do. And 315 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: you guys did it for charity, right, we did the proceeds, 316 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: Yes for feed I forgot hungry South Side of Chicago. Yeah. Yeah, 317 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: what a defense. That was number one defense in the 318 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: National Football League that year, number one against the run, 319 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: number three against the pass. And how about playing for 320 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: Buddy Ryan and that defense all it was great. Buddy 321 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: was definitely before his time and just did a tremendous 322 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: job of having us understand what we had to do 323 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: in order to win and in order to play great defense. 324 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: So it was definitely a team concept. Everybody had to 325 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: do their jobs, and Buddy was just very demanding in 326 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: terms of how we went about doing those jobs. So 327 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: it was it was great. You know, Mike's career sort 328 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: of cross paths with guys here that played or coached 329 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys because I think your first year, 330 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: your rookie year. Neil Armstrong was the Bears head coach, right, yes, 331 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: and he then eventually came back here as an assistant 332 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: personnel guy. Uh and uh and a great guy by 333 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: the way, Oh yeah, very much so. And and then 334 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: Dicka takes over, right, Yes, what was that different that 335 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: I was gonna say? What was that like? He's quite 336 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: different than uh coach Armstrong? Um yeah, Dicka just brought 337 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 1: about a whole new level of passion and and um 338 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: energy and um frustration for the players. But it was 339 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: it was the best thing that ever could have happened 340 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: to the Bears. That came at a great time. Um. 341 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: He definitely knew what the Bears were all about. He 342 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: knew the call sure that we needed to have there 343 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: in the vision. Uh. It was it was a great 344 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: moment for Chicago and absolutely for our team. It was wonderful. 345 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: And for those of you who may need a little 346 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: history lesson, Mike ended up playing with the Cowboys for 347 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: what three four years before he Mike Dica before he 348 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: became an assistant coach and was an assistant coach here 349 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: for like nine years. I got a feeling not much 350 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: of Landry rubbed off onto him. Though. The funny thing 351 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: about Coach Dicka is he really tried. He really tried 352 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: to change. I mean I would go into his office 353 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: and he would have ten books on his desk and 354 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: tapes about how to talk so people listen, how to 355 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: communicate with love, how to how to speak encouragingly, and 356 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: all those things, and anytime I walk in his office, 357 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: he would knock them all off the desk. But what 358 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: do you want, I'm busy. So it was interesting, but 359 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: he was He was a fun coach and very passionate 360 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,479 Speaker 1: and really brought a lot to our team. I know, 361 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, you guys won the Super Bowl 362 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: that year, but what else do you remember most from 363 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: that season? It seemed like you guys were really a 364 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: tight team. I don't know. From Afar, I can tell 365 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: you that with the Cowboys. I was working the newspaper 366 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: here in Dallas, but they kept sending me to Chicago 367 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: to cover the team because I'm from Chicago and I 368 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: had a free place to stay. That's what the newspaper 369 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: was back business was back then. So I got to 370 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: watch a lot of your games. So the newspaper business 371 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: hasn't changed a bit now it hasn't. Yeah, it's probably regressed, 372 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: but I got to watch a lot of your games. 373 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 1: Cover the games, covered all the playoff games. But it 374 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: seemed like in that locker room it was pretty tight. 375 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: We wore a tight knit group, and I really believe that. 376 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: You know, Jim Thinks was the guy the GM that 377 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: put us together, and he did a tremendous job of 378 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: really collecting a group of guys that just did not 379 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: want to lose. We could not stand to lose. And 380 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: I think that it's very rare that you get a 381 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: group of guys together like we had that really hold 382 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: each other accountable. If I didn't do my job, I 383 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: knew that I was going to have three or four 384 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: guys in my face saying, hey, you gotta do your job, Mike. 385 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: We're friends and all these other things. But if you 386 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: don't do your job, we're gonna have a problem. So 387 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: that was that was one thing that our team had 388 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: that was great. I'm sitting there looking at the starting 389 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: lineup for the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears. Upfront, Mickey, 390 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,239 Speaker 1: where you're talking, Richard Dent, Refrigerator, Perry, Steve McMichael, and 391 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: Dan Hampton. Your linebackers are Wilbert Marshall, Mike Singletary, and 392 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: Otis Wilson. Leslie Frazier at cornerback of course coach in 393 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: the NFL, Mike richardson the other cornerback, Gary Fensick, and 394 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: Dave Duerson as safety. Pretty stout. It was a great group. 395 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know if the word is eclectic, but 396 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: it was a group of guys that were pretty different, right. 397 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: I mean I covered the ninety two, ninety three, ninety 398 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: four Cowboys, but that Bears team. There was some characters 399 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: on that team, right, starting with the quarterback Jim Yeah, 400 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: at the position that's supposed to be pretty cerebral, right right, 401 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: but it was just and and he's probably the only 402 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: quarterback that could have played for coach Ditcka. I mean 403 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: I think that when you think of Jim McMahon. He 404 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: was just he was not afraid. He was not shaking 405 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: up or anything like that. If he made a mistake, 406 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: it was like, hey, I'll get it next time. The 407 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: coach Dicker would be screaming the top of his lungs 408 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: and Jim would say, yeah, yeah, I hear you, but 409 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: give me some water over there. So it was the 410 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: guys really appreciated him the team for the courage that 411 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: he had to be a quarterback for Coach Dicker, which 412 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: is demanded. And then you got to play with Walter Peyton. 413 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: That was an honor, absolute, an absolute honor. Walter was 414 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: the gentleman. He was a great teammate. He was fierce, 415 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: a fierce competitor pound for pound, one of the strongest 416 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: guys on the team, but just a great guy to 417 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: play with. Yeah, and he's uh. And then you end 418 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: up winning the Man of the Year award that was 419 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: named after him, So that must have been doubly special 420 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: for you. It really was. Danny Sirik has the wireless microphone. Danny. 421 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: If you have a question, I just find Danny and 422 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: Danny's right over here with someone with a question. Danny, 423 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: I do. Tonight's first question comes from Mike from Frisco. Hey, coach, 424 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: I just want to make a quick comment and then 425 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: ask you a question. The comment is, I think your 426 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame acceptance speech was one of the best 427 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: I've ever heard, and I thought it was very cool 428 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: how you had your wife introduce you at the Hall 429 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: of Fame. Thank you. And then my question is, just 430 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: of all the running backs you played against, who do 431 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: you think was the toughest or best running back or 432 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: toughest to tackle? Wow? Um, I would put it this way, 433 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: I say Barry Sanders was the toughest to catch. Um, 434 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: I think Earl Campbell It's probably the toughest to tackle. 435 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: And I think um all around. In terms of the 436 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: best running back that I played against, who would be 437 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: between Earl and Eric Dickerson, they were great. I mean 438 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: every time you hit him, you you really had to 439 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: buckle your changed staff twice because they were coming. They 440 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: were loaded to tackle. And I'm guessing they didn't let 441 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 1: you tackle Walter Payton in practice. No, no, don't even 442 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: look at it. By the way, those two of those 443 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: names you mentioned there, Eric Dickerson and Earl Campbell. As 444 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliot gil Brandt had this note today he tweeted 445 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: out Aszekiel Elliott is on pace to become just the 446 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: fourth running back since nineteen thirty two to lead the 447 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: league in rushing yards per game for three consecutive seasons, 448 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: and the other three to do it Earl Campbell, Eric 449 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: Dickerson and Jim Brown did it twice. Wow. So that's 450 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: really that's some pretty good company right there. Every time 451 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 1: I think I find some great stat gilran Yeah exactly, alright, 452 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: you do that? Yeah, Oh well, he's Gil Brand yes, 453 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: and that's why he's gonna join Mike Singletary in the 454 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame here in a couple of months. All Right, 455 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: we continue with Mike Singletary on the Cowboys Legends Show. 456 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: In just a moment, it's a touchdown. It's a touchdown. 457 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Oh big struck Midnight to the s WBC Mortgage Dallas 458 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys Legends Show, broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at 459 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. As WBC Mortgage. 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As we welcome 463 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: you back here to the SWBC Mortgage Legend Show here 464 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: at the Cowboys Club at the Star in Friscope, Bill Jones, 465 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: along with Mickey Spagnola and our special Legends guest, former 466 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: Chicago Bear great, ten time pro bowler, eight time All 467 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: Pro linebacker Mike Singletary, As we take a trip down 468 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: memory lane with Mike Singletary and Danny Serek as the 469 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: wireless microphone. Let's check in once again with Danny to 470 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: kick off this segment. Danny, Mike, Your next question comes 471 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: from Greg from Dallas. Hello, Mike, full disclosure. I'm a 472 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Cowboys fan, but growing up I served 473 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: in the Canadian military. You have a huge fan base 474 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: in Canada. By the way, and this roommate was a 475 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: hardcore Chicago Bears band named with Rag about how great 476 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary was. And so my question to you, and 477 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: as is his question to you, because I I text 478 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: him before I came here. He wanted to know based 479 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: on the defense, the amazing defense you played in and 480 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: what you're seeing right now, do you see glimmers of 481 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: um this Chicago defense coming back to the I guess 482 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: the greatness that when you once played in well, I 483 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: think what I see now, I see a hunger. H 484 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: They've got some playmakers on defense. Khalil Mack is just 485 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,400 Speaker 1: playing out of his mind, and I think, um, the 486 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: rest of the defense is chiming in. I think he 487 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: was sort of like a match that just just created 488 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: a spark when he got there, the way he played, 489 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: And when you have great players, it's sparks other players 490 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: to play great um. And so I think that's what's 491 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: really exciting about the Bears defense and the Bears team. 492 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: And of course the Bears clinched the division for the 493 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: first time since two thy ten this past weekend. That 494 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: bring back some fond memories for you. It's uh, it's 495 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: it's really great to see. It's great for Chicago. I'm 496 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: excited for the city and the team. Uh, it's been 497 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: a while. They've been through some tough years and to 498 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: see them excited. And it's the way they're winning games, uh, 499 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: playing great defense and controlling the ball and doing smart 500 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: things on offense. So it's a great combination. And with 501 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: a young quarterback right, yes, which is usually a hard 502 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: thing to do. Absolutely, but like I said, when you're 503 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: when you're playing great defense, it allowed you to keep 504 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: your quarterbacks at Bay you know, they don't have to 505 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: do risky things, silly things and get the team in trouble. 506 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: So that's a good thing something about the city of Chicago. 507 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: When sports teams do well in Chicago, it just kind 508 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: of goes to another level in that city and and 509 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: in fact, your team's back. And we talked about nineteen 510 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: eighty five and winning the Super Bowl and so forth, 511 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: the whole dub Bears deal from from that era. I 512 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: mean that caught on with the entire country. It was. 513 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: It was a remarkable bowl. Just how that team caught 514 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: on with the with America, well, it was. It was 515 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: an interesting time and um, we definitely had some guys 516 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: on that team that were wow. Just the character, the 517 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: thought process to the things they would say. It was 518 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: pretty crazy. I mean started with Fridge and of course McMahon, 519 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: and then Walter and Steve McMichael. I mean, the list 520 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: goes on and on. But it was definitely a very 521 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: special team. I mean I'm looking at the scores of 522 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: the games from the nineteen eighty five of course everyone 523 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: here remembers the game of Texas Stadium. I remember one 524 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: of them, try to forget him try to forget that one, 525 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: which was forty four to nothing, and the next week 526 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: you beat Atlanta thirty six to nothing. But in the 527 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: playoffs that year there were two shutouts twenty one nothing 528 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: and twenty four nothing shutouts, and then beat New England 529 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: forty six to ten in the Super Bowl. That defense 530 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: had to be one of the best defenses in NFL history, 531 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: and especially doing it when you did it in the 532 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: postseason as well. Well, it was, like I said, it 533 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: goes back to Buddy Ryan. I think that we were talented, 534 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: but but I think Buddy really uh in still excellence 535 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: in all of us in terms of how to go 536 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: about playing the game and the way we had to 537 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: play together. And uh it was definitely a team effort 538 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: every time we went out and everybody had to do 539 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: their job. If somebody did not do their job, you're 540 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: going to hear it from your teammates be way before 541 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: we got to Buddy. So that's what made that team 542 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: really special, the accountability that we had amongst each other. 543 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: You know, you look at this year in the NFL, 544 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: and especially in the first half of the year, especially quarterbacks, 545 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: there were there were more three hundred yard passing games 546 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: than I think we've ever seen. We're getting into December 547 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: now and defense is starting to take over again. We 548 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: haven't seen fifty four or fifty one games in decembert 549 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: of course, Skowboys got shut out in Indianapolis the other day, 550 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: but the scores are lower. When you look at what's 551 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: happening in football with the offenses today, what do you think, 552 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: not only on this level, but it's a trickle up 553 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: effect from college on up to the NFL now with 554 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: these offenses, well, I just think that, you know, the 555 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: rules of the game continues to change the game. It's 556 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: really interesting how when you begin to think about safety 557 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: and you think about the whole concussion issue, you think 558 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: about the value of what quarterbacks are making at the 559 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: NFL level, and how that really trickles down to the 560 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: fans and how many people come to the games when 561 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: you're not doing well, So it all goes together. I 562 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: think some of the rules that they're making are good rules, 563 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: and they're just a few of them that are just 564 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: kind of needs some help. But as far as the 565 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: game itself, I think that we just have to we 566 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: just have to figure out that, hey, defenses do win championships, 567 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: and that is important, and we just have to keep 568 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: continuing to find ways to win on defense. You see 569 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: some of the teams using the principles of that forty 570 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: six defense even today now or have people gotten away 571 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: from it? I think people have tried to do it 572 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: through the years, but it's it's a defense that you 573 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: It really requires a lot of discipline, and you know, 574 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: in today's game sometimes you don't find that type of discipline. 575 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: But really, if just a few things are off and 576 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: then the forty six looks really bad. So it comes 577 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: down to the team concept and unselfish players. So finding 578 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: that many guys that are unselfish and playing together and 579 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: playing to win, it's tough to find. So help me 580 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: with my history. When did Buddy Ryan get to the Bears? 581 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: Was either ready when you got there or did he 582 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: come afterwards? Do you remember he came with Neil Armstone? 583 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh he did? Okay, so they came to Minnesota together, 584 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: I believe. Okay, all right, So what did you think 585 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: of that defensive style when you got there, because I'm 586 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: assuming you probably hadn't been familiar with it playing it 587 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: at Baylor. Well, when I first got to Chicago, there 588 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: really wasn't a forty six. We were playing a bass 589 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: forty three and we played over and under and that 590 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: was pretty much it. And the actually Buddy had kind 591 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: of discovered the forty six a couple of years before 592 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 1: I got there. All the linebackers were hurt and he 593 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: had to use dbs as linebackers. So that's kind of 594 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: how the forty six came about. And then that year 595 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: when I started asking Buddy, what can we do to 596 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: make our defense more simpler, he just kind of started. 597 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: He started playing the forty six a bit, and along 598 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: with you, over and under and are the chemistry of 599 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 1: the team really fit to forty six? We had great 600 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 1: guys up front, we had linebackers that could run and cover. 601 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: We had dbs that had good hands and good instincts, 602 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: and it really fit to forty six. And that's kind 603 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: of what you have to do in the forty six 604 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: defense named after fens six number. Actually plank. That's right, yeah, okay, 605 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: very good. You know, you talk about discipline in the 606 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: forty six defense. When I think about Landry's flex defense, 607 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: and I talked to Randy White about it on a 608 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: regular basis, he uh, yeah, he would get frustrated as 609 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: a defensive player, because there were certain things he had 610 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 1: to do to fit that Landry wanted him to do 611 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: in the flex defense, and he and that was a 612 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: key to the success of the doomsday defenses of the 613 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,240 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies. Well, I think when it really boils 614 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: down to it, all great defense is about discipline, and 615 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: all great defense start up front. And if the guys 616 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: up front or not playing, I don't care how good 617 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: the linebackers are. I don't care how good the dbs, 618 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't care how fast they are. If the guys 619 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: up front or not playing discipline football, it's gonna be 620 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: a trickle down effect and before you know it, the 621 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: safeties and the cornerbacks have more tackles than the linebackers 622 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: than That's not a good thing. So I looked up. 623 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: It looks like you played with the Bears. You played 624 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys six times during your time there. How did Dicka? 625 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: Did Dicka look at that game any differently because he 626 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: was going up against Landry in the eighties? Did he? 627 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: And I was wondering how he reacted after you beat 628 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: him forty four to nothing. I think coach Dicka had 629 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 1: such admiration and respect for Tom Landry very much like 630 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: how I felt about coach taf Tom Landry had definitely 631 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: had an effect on him, a major effect. So when 632 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: we played the Cowboys, it wasn't something that coach Didger 633 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: really thought about, but we knew how much he wanted 634 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: to beat the Dallas Cowboys team. And he always said, 635 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: you know, in order for us to be considered a 636 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: great team, we have to beat a great team. And 637 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: I think we lost to Dallas more than we beat 638 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: Dallas my time at Chicago, And it really it really 639 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,919 Speaker 1: set something when we could go out and beat the Cowboys, 640 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: because I think at one point you beat him three 641 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 1: times in a row. But the early they were beating 642 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: they were beating you guys. And then they they broke 643 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: that streak in that ninety one playoff game and Soldier Field, yes, 644 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: you remember much about that. That was kind of nor 645 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 1: the end of your career, but you played one more year. 646 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,760 Speaker 1: But the Cowboys were just kind of an upstart team 647 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: at that point. They were an upstart team, but they 648 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: were a team that was discovering who they were and 649 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: that was an identity there um that they came to 650 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 1: us sold you feel with and um it was a 651 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: tough game. They ended up winning at seventeen thirteen. I 652 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: believe it was yeah, yeah, all right. We continue with 653 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: Mike Singletary on the Cowboys Legend Show. In just a moment, 654 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: it's a touchdown. It's a touchdown. 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Bill Chiones with Mickey Spagnola 661 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: and former Chicago Bear and Baylor Bear Great the Pro 662 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: Football in College Football Hall of Famer Mike Singletary or 663 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: last segment here at the Cowboys Club at the Start 664 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: at Frisco and Danny Serect with the wireless microphone questions 665 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: from the crowd here, Hello Danny, guys, it would not 666 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: be a weekly radio show about our question from Frisco. 667 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: From Frisco. Hey, So my companies were atout Chicago, and 668 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: I want to tell you all people in my company 669 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,839 Speaker 1: in Chicago, there was never a better defense in the 670 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: history of the NFL, than your team, than the eighty five? 671 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: But what did you have anybody that you felt like 672 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: mentored you or that really helped you out up here? 673 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: And it's hard for me to believe anybody could mentor you? 674 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 1: But h and was who was? Who was the guy 675 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: that was your connection on the team, on the defense? 676 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: Was there somebody that special that really you attributed some 677 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: of your success too? Well? I could, I could honestly 678 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: say this. When I was at Bail, um Corky Nelson 679 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: was my linebacker coach and defensive coordinator, and um, I 680 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: didn't like him because I thought he was trying to 681 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: kill me. I mean he every day he worked me 682 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: so hard on the fundamentals and going back and forth 683 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 1: over the bags and all of the skill developed and 684 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: a linebacker. So um, when I left Baylor and I 685 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: got to Chicago, I just continue to work on those 686 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: techniques and skills that he had taught me. And I 687 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: would attribute the success that I had to Corky Nelson. 688 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely he was. He was an absolutely amazing coach. So yeah, 689 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: that that's who I would give it to. And Corky 690 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: Nelson would later go on to be a head coach 691 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: at North Texas. I think I thought, I remember I 692 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: was going to ask you in North Texas, right, Yeah, 693 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah, passed away a few years ago. But uh, well, 694 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: how about growing up You mentioned earlier in the show 695 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: about being a Cowboys fan. Any any linebacker in particular, 696 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: that that you kind of emulated or looked up to 697 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 1: growing up, that that you can kind of look at 698 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: what you became as a college an NFL player if 699 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: you look back and say, you know what, he was 700 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 1: a kind of a guy that I looked There were 701 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: there were a few guys that I looked at. I 702 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: looked at Willielanier. Willilanier was a guy. Dick Buckers was 703 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: a guy. Um, of course, Lee Royd Jordan Um was 704 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: a guy that those guys I looked up to and 705 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: and really studied them and watched their games, and um, 706 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 1: they really helped me to to kind of look at 707 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: look at the game through their eyes and see what 708 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 1: they were trying to read. And so those were the 709 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: guys that I watched. What what traits do you think 710 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: you ad that made you what you were as a 711 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame linebacker? Um, I think the one trait 712 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 1: that that I would say. Uh. That really helped me 713 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: was I was I had a desire that there was 714 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 1: a desire to make every tackle UM and I really 715 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: every time I played, I really strived to make every 716 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: tackle UM and that's what I tried to do. That 717 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 1: was my desire. Of course, the classic NFL films footage 718 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: is your eyes. Were you surprised when you when you 719 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: look and see that, how the close ups that they 720 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: would have on your eyes, that your eyes would would 721 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 1: be like that during the course of the game. But yeah, 722 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: it was. It was interesting kind of how that developed. 723 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I've had guys asked me during my career 724 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: when I was playing the game a singletary, what do 725 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: you take it? So I'm not taking anything. I don't 726 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: know what what are you taking? I want to but 727 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: that stuff, I'm not taking anything, So you're not gonna 728 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: tell me I'm not taking anything. But uh, for me, 729 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: I was really trying to um see everything in front 730 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 1: of me. I started with the guard and the center, 731 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: and and then I went from the garden center to 732 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,839 Speaker 1: the tackles and and then I went from the guard 733 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: center tackle to the tight end and then the white out. 734 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: So so your eyes are gonna get pretty wide open. 735 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: If you have they're gonna see all. Yes, absolutely, so 736 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 1: that's what he came from. There's a couple of linebackers 737 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: here that have some of those traits. Sean Lee, uh, 738 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,239 Speaker 1: such a student of the game. And now they got 739 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: a young kid that I think he wants to make 740 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: every tackle laden banderish. Don't your thoughts on seeing those 741 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: guys play? Um? I think it's always exciting when when 742 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: you see linebackers, um, not just play with their ability, 743 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: but to really go out and and and take it 744 00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: all in the mental aspect of the game. Um. And 745 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 1: I think as a linebacker, you really as a football player, 746 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: but particularly as as a linebacker, and particularly as an 747 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: inside linebacker. Uh, it is so important that the preparation 748 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: that you put in place, all of the little notes 749 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: and the little keys that you have to have in 750 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: order to go out and and play a great game. 751 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: Any any current linebackers that that you like watching, well, Um, 752 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: I study I study a few of them. Um. But um, 753 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: right now, I think when I watched Dallas, I'm watching 754 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: this young kid in the middle begin to develop. I 755 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: think he's beginning to see the game in a different way. 756 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 1: Now the Smith kid. I like watching him play too. 757 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: He's an athlete from the outside. UM, but I really 758 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: like the fact that that it seems like he's trying 759 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: to take his game to another level. And I hope 760 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: he continues to do that. Now, there was comparison is 761 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: probably too strong of a word, but when he was drafting, 762 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's got the build of a Ner Lacker, okay, 763 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: and in that defense, you know, and he has shown 764 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 1: him signs of it during his rookie season. You see 765 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: some traits there that remind you of that Chicago Bears linebacker. UM. 766 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,280 Speaker 1: I would say this, you know, before I start comparing 767 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 1: him to two guys, you know, clar Lackers and all 768 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: Pro in Hall of Famer and all of that. Um, 769 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 1: I just hope that he can continue to develop and uh, 770 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: just continue to work and and hone his craft. UM 771 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: and people don't start trying to make him something that 772 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: he's not. Let let him just continue to take his 773 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: steps and he'll get there. But what's so impressive about him. 774 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: One of the things that's impressive about him is making 775 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: the transition so quickly, really with just one year of 776 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,719 Speaker 1: college football under his belt. And I don't know if 777 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 1: you're familiar with his history. He played eight man football 778 00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: in Idaho in high school. Well, I think that's pretty cool, 779 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's some advantages of playing eight man 780 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,720 Speaker 1: football and being able to transfer that into playing eleven 781 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: man football. So I'm just excited to see him playing. 782 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: He and the other linebacker fifty four playing at the 783 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,399 Speaker 1: level that they're playing at. I'm just hoping that they 784 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 1: can continue to grow and build. You know, Mike, it's 785 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,839 Speaker 1: kind of uh, it's amazing the Cowboys, the Bears, the 786 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:32,280 Speaker 1: mystique of those franchises. At middle linebacker. I mean, you follow, 787 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 1: you know, and the guy Arlac follows you, and here 788 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: with Leroy and you know, the guys that played linebacker 789 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: here middle linebacker, it's pretty amazing. You probably got to 790 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you were part of that lineage. Yeah, 791 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 1: it is. It's um. You know, I remember when I 792 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: first got to Chicago and I met Did Buckers for 793 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: the first time. Really special. So, um, just continue to 794 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 1: build that legacy in Erlac. I'm very proud of him now. 795 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: Some of the young guys going, well, it's been special 796 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 1: having you here on the Cowboys Legends show. I'm glad 797 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: Mickey has branched out and got a Chicago barrel. There's 798 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 1: a lot of Hall of famers in this city. We 799 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: just got to unearth them, you know. Hopefully you'll stay 800 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: for a while, I mean in Dallas, so continue coaching 801 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: at Trending a Christian Well we'll see, okay, well good, Well, 802 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: it's good to have you here. We had been Joe 803 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 1: Green earlier in the season. Now Mike Singletary. So it's 804 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame, cast of NFL legends. Mike, Marry Christmas. 805 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: Happy holidays to you and your family, and for all 806 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: of you out there as well, Marry Christmas and happy holidays. 807 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,799 Speaker 1: We will be back next Wednesday, the next Wednesday, the 808 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: next Wednesday, and the next Wednesday. Show. There you go. 809 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us.