1 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Cheeky's and Chill. I have 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: some very exciting news to share. So Apple Podcasts has 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: this program called Spotlight. Basically, they pick one podcast they 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: love and highlight it for an entire month so that 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: more people can find it. 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: That's right. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: Apple's editorial team listens to thousands of podcasts and they 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: chose Cheeky's and Chill. It's the first iHeart podcast to 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: be highlighted, so I'm super excited about this. So if 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: it's your first time listening to the show, welcome, and 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're here. And if you've been with 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: me for a while, you know how I feel about you. 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Hellos Amo, Cheeks and Chill is my comfort zone. I 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: talk about anything and everything. Since I have you here, 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to remind you of some of my favorite episodes. 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: We have one on cheating a betrayal, losing my mom Jenny, 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: and a really important one with my fertility doctor on 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: freezing my eggs. And of course I've had interviews with 19 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: some special guests, so be sure to check those out too. 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: New episodes drop every mine to you, guys, rage Subscribe 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: to Cheeky's and Chill don't forget now, let's start the show. 22 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: The One and only Whitney coming. 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 2: Fame has changed. 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: People either come up to you, they know what you've 25 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: had for breakfast, they've seen all my specials, and their 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: friend is like, who's that. 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: I was taught like you need to have your children 28 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: early so that you can grow up with them. 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: That stuff is wild to me, And I think the 30 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 3: reason that I actually am chill about the kids thing 31 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: is I froze my eggs when I was thirty three. 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: Younger guys know that dating younger girls is an actual liability. 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 2: Twenty year old aren't that good at sex? 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still learning. 35 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 2: I know. 36 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: I wasn't that great in my twenties. Hello everyone, Oh 37 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: my goodness. I am so excited for today's episode. It's 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: going to be a really great one. That's because I 39 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: have an incredible guest with us today. In my opinion, 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: she's one of the funniest people on the planet and 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: I can't wait to talk to her. So let's get 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: into this. This is Cheeky's and chill. Almost feel like 43 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: this person doesn't even need an introduction. She's a comedian, actor, writer, producer, director, 44 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: and podcast host. She also just released her fifth comedy special, 45 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: Whitney Cummings Jokes on Netflix. Now you guys, okay, our 46 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: guest is the one and only Whitney Cummings. How are you, Whitney. 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: I feel like I just witnessed a like a broadcasting 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: mass class. 49 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to do it really nice for you. 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: Okay, but the things that you guys, they're gonna cut 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: out a couple of things that I just witnessed. But 52 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: I just witnessed the most pro badass gangster shit Like 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: that was incredible. And you know what else you didn't 54 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: do that was you know what, keep all that in 55 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: you or pull it and put it on something. Because 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: I want people to see the way that you handled 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 3: like you said something away that you didn't exactly want 58 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: to and a lot of people and they do, they go, oh, 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: I said that wrong, and they go sorry, sorry, and 60 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: they get all. You just were like, no, this is 61 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: what human beings do, and I'm just going to fix 62 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 3: it and not waste everybody's time with my perfectionism shit. 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 3: And you just went when you said something, You're like, 64 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: she's here up take through one two and she's with 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 3: us today. 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 2: That was incredible. 67 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 68 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: And then you also said something that just made me 69 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 3: fall in love with you. And I'm going to steal this, 70 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: which is someone off camera asked you if you wanted something, 71 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: and your answer you just went, surprise me. 72 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what what? I don't know what the 73 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: hell I want? I'm like, you know that was that 74 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: was actually my assistant today. What do you want to eat? 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, surprise me. I was like, 76 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: just make me happy today. 77 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: I mean, but that's a magical way of looking at 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: it instead of like, you know, I want my sugar 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: snap piece with it. You just surprised me, and then 80 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: the person that works for you gets to actually feel 81 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: valued and that's an incredible thing to do for the 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: people that work for you. 83 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. For those of you who don't know who 84 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: Whitney Cummings is, sorry, you're just you need to know. 85 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: You need to follow her on Instagram. 86 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: But really quick, don't you think there's a new kind 87 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: of fame, Like fame has changed. There's like people either 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 3: come up to you, they know what you've had for breakfast, 89 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 3: You've changed their life. They have tears streaming down your face. 90 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: They've read my book, they've seen all my specials and 91 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: then their friend is like, who's that. People either know 92 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: you so well or they have never. 93 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: Heard of you. 94 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I completely agree with you. Yep. 95 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: It's like it's I'll go out in the world and 96 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: like I'll go to you know, the airport, and someone 97 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: will be crying, like I know everything about you, and 98 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 3: they'll they'll know more about me than things that I've 99 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 3: talked about that I forgot about. 100 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: They're like, so, how's your knee. I'm like what. I'm like, oh, 101 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: that's right, I had a name thing. 102 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: And then the next person, like I'll be at Starbucks, 103 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: I'm like, what's your name And I'm like Whitney And 104 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: they're like what Whitney what And I'm like nothing. 105 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, nothing completely. I totally get it. Absolutely. When did 106 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: you realize that you were funny? When did you realize 107 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: the you wanted to be a comedian? 108 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting because aspiring to be a female 109 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: comedian was never on the table. It's kind of like 110 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: more unlikely than like the president of the United States, 111 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: the idea of you know what I'm gonna do. There's 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: no proof really that anyone wants to hear a woman 113 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 3: complain for an hour and you have to pay them, 114 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: and if you challenge them. 115 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: Or talk back, security removes you. 116 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: Like there's you know, I think most people are like 117 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear my own wife talk that long, 118 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: or my own girlfriend, or you know. So I saw 119 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: growing up a lot of men that were shushing women, 120 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: that were like, stop whining, stop complaining. Women's feelings were 121 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: a burden. 122 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: You know. 123 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 3: Women's feelings were dramatic and hysterical and hyper vigilant. We 124 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 3: were crazy, we're psychos. And I watched that and then, 125 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, I would watch women be kind of shape 126 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: shift for a man and try to sort of be 127 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 3: this perfect step housewife, and then when the guy wasn't around, 128 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: it was hilarious. It was just like Joe Joe burn 129 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 3: burn like, you know, and I was like, this is 130 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: so fun I know, this is funny. I think that, 131 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 3: you know, guys are so trained to believe as soon 132 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: as a woman has an opinion, or as soon as 133 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: a woman you know, she's you know, judging you, she's 134 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: emasculating you, whatever. But I was like, I know the 135 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: medicine that I got growing up. You know, my favorite 136 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 3: show growing up is also Roseanne, where it's a family 137 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: that's just roasting each other. 138 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 2: That's how. 139 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: That's how my family we would just make a Thanksgiving Christmas. 140 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 3: I mean, looking back, it would probably be categorized as 141 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 3: like emotional abuse today. And also my last name is coming, 142 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 3: so I also got bullied so much. I had to 143 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: learn to be able to defend myself. 144 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: And is it still very now that you're like in it? Like, 145 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: is it still very male dominated? 146 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: You know? 147 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: It's interesting because I don't think it has is a 148 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 3: bad thing if something is dominated in some way, like 149 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: no one complains about like women dominate the field of nursing, 150 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: Like no one's men aren't mad about that. 151 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: You know. 152 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: It's like the veterinary pract vets are ninety percent women. 153 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: There are some things that it's okay. It just doesn't matter, 154 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: you know. 155 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: I think that when we get so wrapped up and 156 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: this is male dominated, the men in comedy are more 157 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: sensitive than most of the women I know. 158 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: So it's like, is it male dominated these guys? 159 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: I've seen most of these men cry over a negative 160 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: comment on Twitter. 161 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: Now that you just said that, I guess it's been embedded, 162 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I've seen it in my genre. It 163 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: is more male dominated. But now that you said it 164 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: that way, I'm like, you know what, I like that. 165 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to adopt that because I'm like, you know what, You're. 166 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: Right, we have some masculine qualities which are traditionally masculine. 167 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: I think those labels just have to change. And I'm 168 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: not saying it were all one gender. I have my 169 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: own thoughts about all that shit. That's what my whole 170 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: new hour is about. But this is like comedians. You've 171 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: heard their podcast and the reason they're all getting so 172 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: successful and going to this other level Dak Shepherd and 173 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: all the it's because they're being vulnerable. They're going on 174 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 3: podcasts or they're going up on stage and they're going 175 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: I feel insecure, I have depression. 176 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 2: That's what the women are supposed to be doing, talking 177 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: about their feelings. 178 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: And then I go on stage and I'm just like 179 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: I'm doing the dick jokes and I'm like, i feel 180 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 3: like I'm. 181 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: The only man doing comedy, you know. 182 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: So it's like it's really hard because comedians have a 183 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: lot of traditionally feminine qualities, and the women that do 184 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: it have some traditionally masculine qualities. 185 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like I get it, give and 186 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: take in a weird way. 187 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of like put it. 188 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: But in terms of you know, I think that the 189 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: domination of the business because now of the Internet and 190 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: YouTube me ale to do podcasts, there's less gatekeepers, and 191 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 3: the gatekeepers used to be male, and now the gatekeepers, 192 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: you know, if anyone it's going to be like the 193 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: YouTube algorithm or whatever. So I think it's it's changing, 194 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: but I don't think it necessarily has to, because comedy 195 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 3: is a reflection of what's going on in the world, 196 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: and comedy is fashion, and to make a comedian takes 197 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: a really long time. So I believe that there's a 198 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: lot of female comedians right now. They're in their gestation period, 199 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: so it can't change right away. You can't just go, 200 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 3: we want more female They haven't been made yet. They 201 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: haven't been inspired enough to get into this business by 202 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 3: the people like us, you know, because it went Phyllis 203 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: Diller made Joan Rivers and then a couple others, and 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: then Joan Rivers made you know, Sarah's and a couple others. 205 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: So it's gonna keep getting bigger. 206 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: But I always tell female comics they're so eager now 207 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 3: to go like, we want this to be equal, but 208 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: it's like, you don't have the skill yet, and the 209 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: worst thing you can do as a female comedian is 210 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 3: get seen before you're ready, and then it's well, female 211 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 3: comics suck. 212 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: We knew it. People are like, oh, maybe I feel. 213 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: Like a bad feminist when I say this, but I'm like, you, 214 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 3: yes you are a female, Yes you're funny, but you've 215 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: only been doing this for three years. You don't deserve 216 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 3: to be on that stage yet. 217 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: You're so fucking honest, I love it. 218 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you. I'd say the same thing to 219 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: a you know, but the guys are on stage. He's 220 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: been doing this for thirty years. So you're gonna get 221 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 3: on stage and you're gonna suck because you're not ready yet, 222 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: and then you're gonna sort of re enforce all of 223 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: these stereotypes that are holding you down. 224 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: Dude, I wish that you were my freaking friend when 225 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: I started my career as a singer in twenty fifteen 226 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, I would have saved myself so much fucking trouble, 227 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: because that's exactly what it is. It's like they already 228 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: want to say, oh, okay, girls suck at singing by 229 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: that because it's very, very like masculine type of music. 230 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: And so I wasn't ready and I came out and 231 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: they brought out a song and it's just like, see, 232 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: I told you guys exactly what you said. I'm like, 233 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's what the freak happened. But you 234 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: know what, fuck it. It's been how many years now, 235 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: almost like eight, So yeah. 236 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: But it's also I've done a lot of things before 237 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: I was ready. I think I wrote a book before 238 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: I was ready, at a TV show before I was ready. Like, 239 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: I know what it's like to like have the talent 240 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: and do the hard work. The key is having faith 241 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: that it is going to happen, and you only know 242 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 3: in your heart. You have to know in your heart 243 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: that you're going to put the work in. But I 244 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: think a lot of women right now are confusing the 245 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: difference between empowerment and entitlement. And it's not empowering for you. 246 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: You don't get to go on stage before you're ready. 247 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: It's like it's like being an athlete. You don't get 248 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: to get be in the game yet you're not a 249 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: starter yet. Being a woman now in terms of like 250 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 3: this being a strong feminist or being empowered, it doesn't 251 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: mean bullying and guilting people into giving you something you 252 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 3: don't deserve just because you're a girl. I believe for 253 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 3: all of us women, because I think we're all wired 254 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 3: to believe we have such a short window because we're 255 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: going to expire, we're gonna get old, we're gonna get whatever. 256 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 3: That's the self limiting belief that keeps us down. So 257 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: it's like, yes, that's a it was put on us. 258 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: But when you go, the best is yet to come. 259 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: Bitch like, I'm gonna get hotter as I get older, 260 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna get strong, I'm gonna get back. My life 261 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: is not over at thirty five. I don't get to 262 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 3: sent out to pasture. That's fucking bullshit. Most of the 263 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: people that buy tickets products are women, and women do 264 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 3: not mind if you have crows feet. 265 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 2: They don't mind if you have the flabby arm. They 266 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: don't give a shit. 267 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: So stop living your life according to the male gaze 268 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 3: of Oh I'm running out of time because I'm going 269 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: to be old soon. 270 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: That's their shit. 271 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: It's all about the talent, the gift and what you 272 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: have to sell and take off that expiration. I'm gonna 273 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 3: have kids by then, so I'm not gonna be able 274 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: to achieve my goal. Moms are actually after you give birth, 275 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: you have more testosterone. Moms are actually better at running 276 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: businesses because they're also get better at time management. The 277 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 3: mom brain is better. All these things that we were 278 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 3: told are going to hold us back are actually part 279 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: of our superpowers, so let's just lean into them. Getting 280 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: older is a good thing as a woman. 281 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: I got it. I got it, and I'm so happy 282 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: I asked you because I'm learning showing me to see 283 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: things differently as well in my genre. So thank you 284 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: for that. I think we all learned a freaking lesson 285 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: right now. How old are you, Whitney? 286 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: Just turn forty? 287 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: That's right? You did have a birthday? 288 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: When was it in September? 289 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: Fourth September? Yah? 290 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to double virgo, double virgo. Thank you? 291 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: Okay, So tell us I love that. I honestly, you're 292 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: just inspiring me right now because sometimes I do get that. 293 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: It's like I have no children. I'm like, God, I'm 294 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: thirty seven and I'm not necessarily ready right now. But 295 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: it's like I was taught, like you need to have 296 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: your children early so you can grow up with them 297 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: and you know, have energy. And I'm just like, dude, 298 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm living. I'm chilling right now. 299 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: But also the worst thing for a kid is to 300 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 3: be brought in the world before you're ready. Mom has 301 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: so much career, Like that stuff is wild to me. 302 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: And I think the reason that I actually am chill 303 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: about the kids thing is number One. I froze my 304 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: eggs when I was thirty three, and it is something 305 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: I talked at length about in my book because I 306 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: feel like I have to shout this from the rooftops. 307 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 3: Because number one, when you freeze your eggs, it takes 308 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: this pressure off. You know, in your thirties, when you're 309 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: dating and you can only date someone through the lens of. 310 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 2: Will they be a good father? We can't help. 311 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: It, but we do that, right, Or that you're dating 312 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: someone at thirty four and you start lowering your standards 313 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: because you feel like you only have a couple of 314 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: years left, so you start negotiating with yourself, right. 315 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: So at the. 316 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 3: Older you get, the lower your bars becomes like oh, yeah, 317 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: I mean he does have a chain wallet, but what 318 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: am I gonna do? 319 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 2: Start over? But like you know, yeah, he does follow 320 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 2: thirty porn stars on Instagram. But like, what am I going? 321 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm thirty four, What am I gonna start 322 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 3: from scratch? Like this is the best I can do 323 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: given the biological limitations I have. So number one, it 324 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: took off those biological limitations. And you want to freeze 325 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: your eggs young because they now have the technology that 326 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: has just been actualized where they can freeze the eggs 327 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: for ten years and they do not get freezer burn 328 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 3: in the de thawing process. So you have your thirty 329 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 3: three year old eggs, which is the higher quality ones. 330 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: You can put them in a surrogate, you can use 331 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: them whatever. But I cannot tell you the difference that 332 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: made in my life. It is not cheap, which is 333 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: why I tell people like young girls, ask your parents 334 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 3: for your graduation gift and your birthday gifts just like 335 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 3: for five hundred bucks a year and start putting it 336 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: in the thing and then you'll have ten grand eventually 337 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: to be able to do this or whatever it costs. 338 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: It's kind of different for ever everyone. 339 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: Also, the more we talk about it, the goal is 340 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: to get it covered by insurance, and your company should 341 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 3: be paying for this every woman should. 342 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 2: Have access to egg freezing. 343 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: Google started doing it, Yahoo, I think, and Facebook have 344 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: done it already. I don't know if I want to 345 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: freeze my eggs with Facebook, but I'll take their money. 346 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: Like can you just send me the cash, like I 347 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: don't want to. 348 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 3: I don't want your egg freezing chamber over there to 349 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: You're taking our data and our. 350 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: Genetics, like I don't know about that. 351 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 3: So that is huge, huge, huge in terms of UH 352 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: being able to take that weight off. But also I 353 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: have a very strong like instinct to adopt, like, I 354 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: know that's something that you know. For me, I like 355 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 3: to go, I know what my genetics are, I know 356 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: my DNA genetics load the gun environment pulls the trigger. 357 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 3: But I feel like I would be so paranoid because 358 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: I have so much addiction in my family and mental 359 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: illness of this kid having it, And there's eight thousand 360 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: kids in Appalachia that were born into the federal crisis 361 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: and what happens in foster care. Just I think about 362 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: it all the time, Like you know, there's sexual abuse 363 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: within physical abuse. 364 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: They put them on all these drugs. So it's not 365 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: like trying to be a hero. 366 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: It's just that might be the best fit for me personally, 367 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 3: as someone who's kind of scared to have biological kids because. 368 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: I know sort of what would be loaded genetically in 369 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 2: their brain. 370 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: That's crazy, because I've thought about that. That's one of 371 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: the reasons why I've held back and I have thought 372 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: about adoption. So now that you're like saying it, you're 373 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: saying so many things that I'm like, oh my god. Yeah, 374 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: I haven't said it out loud because I'm like, how 375 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: is that going to sound? But the truth is because 376 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: everyone knows my family, but it's just like, I'm a 377 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: little scared about it. 378 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: But you could still have a biological kid. I mean 379 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: you could still. 380 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: One of my best friends had a kid biologically at 381 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: forty two and then another one at forty three. 382 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: She wasn't even trying. 383 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: A lot of women do need help in that area, 384 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 3: but we all deserve another ten years. Her twenties were 385 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: basically unconscious. Our thirties is like, Okay, now I'm getting 386 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 3: my business started and things are finally cracking for me. 387 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: If I brought a child into this world right now, 388 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: I'd be a bad mother, Like, don't pressure me to 389 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 3: bring a child into this word before I found the father. 390 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 3: I got to find the perfect father first, with the 391 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: perfect sperm don or whatever it is. But the irony is, 392 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: I think the people that are the most trepidacious about 393 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: having kids are the ones that are the most qualified 394 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: because they're thinking the way you think. That's why you 395 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: will be such a great mother, because you're you're waiting 396 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: and doing it when it's right, not for reasons associated 397 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 3: with guilt. 398 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to feel pressured or do things 399 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: because I feel forced, you know. And I've been trying 400 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: for a while to freeze my eggs, but I had 401 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: like the situation with my overreas and I had sis 402 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: or whatnot, so I had to wait. So I'm going 403 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 1: to start hopefully in October. 404 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 3: But by the way, thank god you even just went in. 405 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: Would you have found out about. 406 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 2: The cyst thing? 407 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's how I found out that I had 408 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: one in there, and then if I went through the process, 409 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: it was just going to make my sists grow bigger 410 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: and bigger. So how many cycles did you go through? 411 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: I just did one. I did one of stabbing myself 412 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 3: with the hormones. But it was actually kind of a 413 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: thing because I had been on birth control pills for 414 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 3: so long, and I have to be on them for 415 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 3: MiG and stuff. But I had been on birth control 416 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 3: for so long that by the time I went off it, 417 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: it took a couple months to bend straight to start 418 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 3: the cycle so that I could then start the shots. 419 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: It was also very. 420 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: Emotional, like I tell people, like freezing your eggs not 421 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: only because you're getting you know, shot up with estrogen, 422 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 3: and you're more emotional anyway, because you're basically getting pregnant. 423 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you get four months pregnant essentially, and you're 424 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: getting pregnant with all these eggs, and ideally the younger 425 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 3: you are, the more you'll get, you know, And you've 426 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: got eighteen eggs that are super swollen. There's that of 427 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 3: just the biochemical stuff and the neurochemical stuff. 428 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: But I just was angry. 429 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: I was like, I have to drive to a doctor 430 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: forty five minutes three times a week just because I'm 431 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 3: a woman, Like I was promised that women could have everything. 432 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: It made me angry of like we talk about sexism 433 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 3: in Hollywood, we talk about sexism. No one talks about 434 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: how sexist biology is. But I don't know who to 435 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: be mad at God, Like our bodies are the most sexist. 436 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 2: Shit. My own body is rotting. 437 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: It knows of all people should know how well things 438 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: are going, and now you're gonna rot on me, you think, 439 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 3: I like, it just made me angry. It made me 440 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: angry that there are these biological limitations we have. Is 441 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 3: the better you get as a woman, the more season 442 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 3: the more intelligent, the less pregnant we can get. Whereas 443 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: a fifteen year old who knows jack shit about fuck 444 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: she can get pregnant easily. Why does our biology want 445 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: the dumbest people to get pregnant the fastest. 446 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just like that. Honestly, I'm not gonna lie 447 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 1: like i've I've been holding back because I'm like, damn, 448 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm already okay, I'm a cancer. I'm you know, so 449 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm already kind of emotional, and I'm like, I'm trying 450 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: to meditate to like not be so freaking emotional, but 451 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be injecting so many hormones in my 452 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: body that I'm like, I feel like I just need 453 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: to take two three weeks off because I don't know 454 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: how irritable I'm gonna be, how emotional i'm gonna be 455 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: like all that shit scares the fuck out of me. 456 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: To be honest, do like I would like a self 457 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 4: care staycation of like all the movies and shows you 458 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: need to catch up on and like have your girlfriend 459 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: stop by, you know, like I wish I had done that. 460 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: I didn't do that. 461 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: I didn't treat myself with tender, loving care when I froze. 462 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: I was mad at my body, and I think that 463 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 3: had I had a brain like yours and been like, 464 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna take two weeks off and 465 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: actually do it, you know, take care of yourself. I 466 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 3: didn't think that way. I was like, I just have 467 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: to jam this in between all the other things I 468 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 3: have going on, and I'm it was like a resentful chore. 469 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: But I was just emotionally not in acceptance at the 470 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: time of like oh, or of you know. I made 471 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 3: this movie about neuroscience called The Female Brain, and it's 472 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 3: about sort of the differences between male and female brains, 473 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 3: and that healed me from my anger towards all of 474 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: the ways that women are labeled as crazy, sensitive, emotional, 475 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 3: because actually. 476 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: All of those are superpowers. 477 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 3: That are why our species proliferated in tribal times before 478 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: street lights before security guards, you know, being hyper vigilant. 479 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 3: So you say crazy, I say hyper vigilant. You mean 480 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 3: I just have superhero And I can feel with my 481 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: gut that your ex is texting you because I'm fucking psychic. Yeah, 482 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: like you're gonna go. And they gaslight us into going. 483 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: Like, well, you're crazy because we're fucking magical witch. We're 484 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: magical witches, you know. 485 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 3: So it's like we're obsessive about squeezing zits on your 486 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 3: but yeah, that is how we used to expunge infection 487 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 3: from the body. Grooming serves a really important in purpose 488 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: in human history two thousand years ago. That could mean 489 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: the difference between life or death. That's why we get 490 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: serotonin from squeezing zits and pulling hairs and stuff like that. 491 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,959 Speaker 3: So when I was in the space of freezing my eggs, 492 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 3: I was just so mad at my body. 493 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: And then you're like, wait a second. I can make 494 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: a person like I can feel. 495 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: If who someone's texting, Like, we have all these incredible superpowers, 496 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know what, the freezing eggs thing, 497 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: we can take them out, put them in. I am 498 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: literally a magician. I'm a I am Harry Potter at 499 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: this point, you know. So it helped me change in 500 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 3: the way I looked at the things that I felt 501 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 3: like we're holding me back as a woman. 502 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: You know. 503 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I swear everything we've talked about has helped me 504 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: so freaking much. So this is like, now I'm gonna 505 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: look at it that way. I'm going to just meditate 506 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: my way through it. 507 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: And it's also like when I have a criticism of 508 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: myself in stopping and just I like to think all 509 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: of our thoughts because most of our inner monologue is 510 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 3: not ours. Most of it is the messages we got 511 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 3: growing up, or the survival instincts and coping mechanisms that 512 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: we developed, and the stories and the narratives that we 513 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: need to believe in order to rationalize whatever was going 514 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 3: on in our family of origin, like in our household 515 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: growing up. So the idea of like, you know, mom 516 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 3: won't pay attention to me, well, I must be ugly 517 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: and I'm not lovable and I have to be perfect, 518 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 3: but whereas she's just busy. But children don't know the difference, 519 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 3: and to self soothed, they have to make a narrative 520 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: to make it their fault because it's they have to 521 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 3: keep their parents on a pedestal, otherwise you'll go crazy, 522 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 3: like you can't the thing that's responsible for your survival 523 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 3: of that young of an age. If you think they're 524 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: flawed in any way, it's just too annihilating to the 525 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: psyche and you're in too much danger all the time. 526 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 3: So you have to blame yourself. And so those self 527 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: limiting beliefs or whatever. Ancestral trauma, ancestral programing. A lot 528 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: of people don't talk about enough of, like how we 529 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 3: get epigenetic like imprinting in utero the same way that 530 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 3: a crack baby is addicted to crack, because those were 531 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 3: the chemicals that were in the body when the baby's 532 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 3: in gestation. The neurochemicals also do the same thing, adrenaline, cortisol. 533 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: So if you are in utero and a mom who 534 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: was stressed out in a bad marriage, you know, which 535 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 3: all of our moms had stressed let's say, yeah, even 536 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: if they didn't, they. 537 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 2: Did, that was just that generation. So I was an accident. 538 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 3: So I was the second, you know, And so she 539 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: was stressed out and dealing with the first baby and 540 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 3: dealing with this one that's coming, you know, So I 541 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 3: was born addicted to adrenaline and cortisol, and I would 542 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: subconsciously gravitate towards it all the time. I was the 543 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: person that was dating drug addicts and guys that were married, 544 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: but didn't tell me to just chaos and then just 545 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: a little lesson I learned in life, any who says 546 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: they hate drama loves drama. So I was the person 547 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 3: that was like, but I just hate drama. But I 548 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 3: hate drama, but I'm the one driving to his how suck. 549 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: I was so subconscious, it was so like I needed 550 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 3: that neurochemical balance because that's familiar, you know, that was 551 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 3: my equilibrium, you know. So I think also learning what 552 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 3: your threshold is for adrenaline cortisol based on your ancestral 553 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: trauma and your family of origin, because basically we tend 554 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: to harvel. Hendrix wrote this amazing book Psychiatrist about how 555 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 3: we're attracted to people that have the negative qualities of 556 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: our primary caretaker. 557 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: So essentially, I know, as. 558 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 3: You move through the world and you're like, but usually 559 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 3: if you're magnetically attracted to someone like that, that is, 560 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 3: you know, our society has basically alchemized that into like 561 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: butterflies and love at first sight. 562 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 2: That is fear. 563 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: That is your body telling, that is your gut telling 564 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: you this person's trouble, and it's activating the basically fight 565 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: or flight response in your brain. Yes, because it's like 566 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: this guy is a drug all of a sudden, because 567 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: he's creating this drama and mystery and I don't know 568 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: what he's thinking, and I have to be perfect for him, 569 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 3: and all my coping mechanisms are gonna shine because to 570 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: have to part with our coping mechanisms. There's also a 571 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 3: lot of loss there. You know, we call them Christmas trees, 572 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: the people that when you walk in a room and 573 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: you're just like, like I used to the most divorced 574 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 3: guy with the most personality disorders, like smoking inside in 575 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 3: the corner. 576 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, like that's just like my drug. You know, 577 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: it's not about him. It's not about him. 578 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: And so for a lot of women, they're like, this 579 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: guy so toxic that I'm still whether he drives me nut. 580 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: So it's like what are you getting out of this? 581 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: Why are you staying? 582 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 3: And it's important to know this person either gives me 583 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: the hit of adrenaline I want, in which case I 584 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 3: go why don't you just go to fucking six flags 585 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: every couple days. I don't know, there's other ways to 586 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: get that adrenaline fix or is your addiction fixing other people? 587 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 3: Is your addiction rescuing people? 588 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: You know? Codependence, the three ms, mothering, micromanaging, and martyring. 589 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: That is me. 590 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: We all are wired to recreate our childhood circumstances and 591 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: find those familiar dynamics, you know, But most of our 592 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 3: thoughts are total science fiction. Like I don't look at 593 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: my thoughts anymore as facts. 594 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: I used to. This person thinks I'm a piece of shit. 595 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 3: Whoa, it's not true, And I fancy myself someone who 596 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 3: is a truth teller and is very honest, and I'm 597 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: gonna believe that fucking garbage. So it's just a thought. 598 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 3: It's just an old thing that, oh I must oh. 599 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: I developed that when I was a kid, and oh. 600 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that worked that. 601 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: Those thoughts worked really well when I was five, six, 602 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 3: seven years old. Now I just am carrying around in 603 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: my arsenal a bunch of tools that are obsolete, a 604 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 3: bunch of weapons to fight a war that's been over 605 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: for thirty years, you know, and now they're working. So 606 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: but I like to anthropomorphize them with a in a 607 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 3: kind way and be like, oh, there's that inner bully 608 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 3: who's actually trying to help me. When people say inner bully, 609 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's a perfect way to say it, 610 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 3: because I would say like inner helper, Like that's your 611 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: inner helper, that's your inner champion, because it's your psyche's 612 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: trying to make you feel safe and get out of 613 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: a dangerous situation. 614 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: Or it's just not our, it's not ours. 615 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at my thoughts like a Star Wars movie, 616 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 3: like that's crazy. 617 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: I actually think she doesn't like me. Is that weird? 618 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I actually think that person on the internet 619 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: that just called me a busted whoror like I just 620 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 3: like agreed with him, you know, or whatever, and then go, oh, 621 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: that's not mine and that's not true. Most of our 622 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 3: thoughts are projections from little survival protectors. 623 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: That was like, is this gonna happen again? 624 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: Because this happened when we're five, and we're not gonna 625 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: let this happen again. So here's the thought to keep 626 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: you safe, and you're like, no, I don't need that anymore. 627 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: So I like to kindly say to my own thoughts 628 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 3: like thank you. 629 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: You can sit on the bench. I see what's happening. 630 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: So you also have to be kind to your own 631 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 3: inner bully, because our brain isn't deign to hurt us. 632 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 2: It's only designed to help us. 633 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: So if anything in your brain isn't on your side, 634 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: it's a perception issue. 635 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: You live in La Whitney, yes, ma'am. 636 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: Oh nice, Oh my god, I live in Chatsworth. We 637 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: need to hang. I need to sit down with you. 638 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: I want to go to lunch. I like have learned 639 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: so much, like you've inspired me on I felt like 640 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: through Instagram, like I feel like, okay, I know you, 641 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: but that's just I don't know. I want to read 642 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: your book. I want to like I'm like, dude, I 643 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: can learn so much from you. Like you're blowing my 644 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: fucking mind right now. I'm like, wait a second. It 645 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: feels nice to sit with someone be like I'm learning something. 646 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: These are the type of friendships and relationships I want, 647 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: so thank you for that. I'm like, dude, she's speaking 648 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: straight to me right now. 649 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 2: You know, addiction can even be a superpower. I identify 650 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: as an addict, and I come from a lot of addiction. 651 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: But if you can. 652 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: Use that super machine of addiction, which is basically our 653 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 3: brains don't hold dopamine the same way in our dopamine receptors, 654 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 3: it's just like a brain disease that I think can 655 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: actually be an advantage if you So I got lucky 656 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: and was able to turn my addictive personality for good. 657 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: I use it with work, and I use it with 658 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 3: rescuing animals, and I use it with the Operation Smile, 659 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 3: which is, you know, we go to thermal countries and 660 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 3: help kids that were born with cleft palettes and cleft lips, 661 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 3: and you know. 662 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 2: So it's like I get lucky. I got lucky. 663 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: Yes, during the pandemic, I went a little crazy with 664 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 3: the edibles and I was like, oh that I know 665 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: where that can go. Like that's that's a that's a 666 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: no for me, because but I made my addiction to 667 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: work more important, you know, so now it would be, oh, 668 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 3: the edibles are just getting in my way of making 669 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 3: great work, so that's got to go. 670 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: So there's also a way to change what you're addicted to. 671 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: I like to call healthy addictions, you know, instead of 672 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: being addicted to whatever it is, whether it's you know, 673 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: drugs or a person or sex or porn or gambling 674 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 3: or whatever. Like what if you just got addicted to 675 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: promoting yourself on Instagram, starting that podcast that you show, 676 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 3: you know, writing that book. There's a way to do 677 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 3: it and to be able to just sort of change 678 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 3: what your brain is addicted to is I think. And 679 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: all the things that you know ostensibly are supposed to 680 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: be shortcomings. 681 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: I see as positives. It's like, oh, you have OCD. 682 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: It's like, no, dude, I'm not sending in it the 683 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 3: book until it is perfect. I've done twelve drafts, Like 684 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 3: this is a good thing for me. I don't want 685 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: to dull that part of myself. It's a superpower. I 686 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: don't want to dull it. 687 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I can talk to you off freaking day. 688 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: I've learned so much and I feel like there's so 689 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: much we have to talk about, like we have. We're 690 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: both dating younger men. I have a lot of questions. 691 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, how old. 692 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: He is seven years younger So I'm thirty seven. He 693 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: just turned thirty. So it's it's been fun, it great sex, 694 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: it's awesome. So yeah, it's. 695 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: Also younger guys. 696 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: They grew up with Beyonce like in Oprah, Like they 697 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: love women, they respect women, and they also know I 698 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: think inherently that dating younger girls is an actual liability 699 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 3: because they tweet if you have bad sex, they'll cancel you. 700 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: Uh huh if you didn't eat them out perfectly, you're 701 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 3: a rapist. 702 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 2: But uh, it's really exciting. 703 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: I also think it's like the smart ones also know that, 704 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: like twenty year olds aren't that good at sex. 705 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're still learning. They're still learning. I know, I 706 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: wasn't that great in my twenties. 707 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 2: No, like we got there. 708 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 3: But like these guys that are dating, like I'm dating 709 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: this hot twenty year old, I'm like cool, Like so 710 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: you have to jerk yourself off, like I don't know 711 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: how this works, Like you have to give someone a 712 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: tutorial on how to give a hand job, like what 713 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: is that your kink teaching? 714 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: Like ooh, so, I freaking love you, dude. I honestly 715 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: think you're a total vibe. If you guys have not 716 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: watched Whitney Cummings jokes, you guys have to watch it 717 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: on Netflix. I already said in the beginning, but like 718 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: you have to go watch it and all so you 719 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: need to follow her on Instagram. Can you share your 720 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 1: socials with me, Whitney please. 721 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: Yes, Just Whitney Cummings. 722 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 3: Whinney Cummings on Instagram, Twitter, Whinny Comies dot com is 723 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 3: my website. 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Yes, please, 756 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 1: And you guys know that I always have a quote 757 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: for you at the end of every episode of Cheeky's 758 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: and Chill. The quote for today is I found I 759 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: was more confident when I stopped trying to be someone 760 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: else's definition of beautiful and started being my own. You guys, 761 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: that's the quote. That's all I have for you today, 762 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: Whitney again, much sending you a big ol'd hug and 763 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: I'll see you soon. We live down the street from 764 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: each other. 765 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 2: Yes, as we're hanging. 766 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Whether you like it or thank you, guys, I love 767 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: you so much. Do you need advice on love, relationships, 768 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: health emails. I'm so excited to share with you that 769 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: my Cheeky's and Chill podcast will have an extra episode 770 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: drop each week. I'll be answering all your questions. Just 771 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: leave me a voice message Monday. All you have to 772 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,720 Speaker 1: do is go to speak pipe dot com, slash Cheeky's 773 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: and Chill Podcast and record your questions. 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