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Speaker 1: point is, I love barbecue. I know down here here

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Speaker 1: in Houston that they got it. But here's the thing

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Speaker 1: about the barbecue. You gotta understand, Johnny, I've been in Hey,

436
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Speaker 1: I'm from Tennessee. So for Tennessee got their little thing

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Speaker 1: about barbecue. I spent four years in Kansas City. They

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Speaker 1: got their little thing about barbecue. I know a little

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Speaker 1: bit about barbecue now. So whenever wherever you send me

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Speaker 1: to and I get that barbecue. I'm not gonna be critical,

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Speaker 1: but I know what good barbecue is. But I have

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Speaker 1: heard that is here. But basically, for me, you take

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Speaker 1: me to anywhere that just has good food, I'll eat it. Coach,

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Speaker 1: where do you get the energy from? I mean, I

445
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Speaker 1: need to borrow some of this. Where is this coming from? Well,

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Speaker 1: that's just who I am. I mean, I've been that

447
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Speaker 1: way and that's just who I am. And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you exactly why it is. I love what I do.

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Speaker 1: I've been coaching for forty three years. This is not

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Speaker 1: a job for me. I love what I never considered

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Speaker 1: it a job. I considered I've been very, very unfortunate

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Speaker 1: to be able to do in my lifetime. Now you

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Speaker 1: have to call it the job, because they do pay

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Speaker 1: you to do this. Now, I'm not saying that I

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Speaker 1: do this for free, but I would do this job

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Speaker 1: right here for probably a lot less money than what

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Speaker 1: they're paying me. But my point is that that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. I've been very fortunate that when I got

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Speaker 1: out of high school. This was my goal. When I

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Speaker 1: got out of high school, all I want to do

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Speaker 1: is go back to high school and be assistant coach

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Speaker 1: at my high school with my high school coach. That

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Speaker 1: was my goal. Now I haven't reached that goal yet,

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Speaker 1: but someday, someday, when this is all over with, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna see if they've take a guy, this guy is

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Speaker 1: AARP card and come back and they don't even have

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Speaker 1: to pay me. I just want to be on this

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Speaker 1: staff and be there and help those young guys at

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Speaker 1: my high school. Wait, the coach that just what the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl is? What? Sixty eight years old? You're yalla

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Speaker 1: speaking of that? Right there? You look at that Bruce

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Speaker 1: is just a little bit older than I am, and

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Speaker 1: he's just a little bit younger I'm in the middle.

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Speaker 1: I'm let me tell you something, I'm at the perfect

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Speaker 1: age to be able to do what they just did.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Coach. Nice so much for the visit.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it and look forward to anymore. Minnie, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much, both of you. All Right, there's David Kelly,

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Speaker 1: head coach the Houston Texans, and impossible not to like everything.

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Speaker 1: Guy's got, like we said, a ton of energy and

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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch him work. Get this staff in here,

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Speaker 1: get them named. Sorry that we really couldn't get into

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Speaker 1: details on that, but it's a it's a league thing,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get to it soon enough. Believe me. When

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Speaker 1: they're ready to announce, we will be all over that.

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Speaker 1: We'll get Nick back on again. All right. Next up,

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Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle joining us now. General, Good evening. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, my friend? I'm great, guys. How are you

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Speaker 1: doing very well? As always? All right? So you know,

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Speaker 1: I haven't talked to you on the air for a

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Speaker 1: long time, General, I think since the day after the

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Speaker 1: that we need to know about? Actually, let's just let's

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Speaker 1: just get to this. What are your thoughts this week?

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Speaker 1: Just just share with me your latest thoughts here. I

528
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Speaker 1: know you've been on the air here a bit, but

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Speaker 1: I haven't spoken to you on the air for a while. Well,

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Speaker 1: what do you want to know my thoughts on what? Well?

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Speaker 1: I didn't just how we're shaping up this week, because

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Speaker 1: I think that we're in a time right now before

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Speaker 1: they're going to start making some moves with some players

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Speaker 1: free agency coming up, things like that. I know everyone's

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Speaker 1: been focused on certain things, and I get it with

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and the situation between he and the club,

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Speaker 1: but there are a lot of other things going on

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Speaker 1: as well, as they have to put an entire team

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Speaker 1: together for twenty twenty one. Well you ask, so I'm

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Speaker 1: going to answer. I'm working on my mailbag that I

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Speaker 1: post every Friday Texas Sports Nation, and I just told

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Speaker 1: a person who said, what's the best case scenario, and

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Speaker 1: I said, well, it depends on if you have Watson

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Speaker 1: you don't. If you don't have Watson, then you're looking

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Speaker 1: at the highlight of the next two years as a draft.

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Speaker 1: And I went through six year period like that where

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Speaker 1: the Oilers, where they were bad for so long, the

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Speaker 1: highlight was the draft. Now I don't think the Texans

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Speaker 1: will be bad that long because you've got free agency

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Speaker 1: to help you rebuild. The beginning next year, they'll have

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Speaker 1: their number one pick, and it looks like it'll be

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Speaker 1: a high one, especially if Watson is not here. And

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Speaker 1: I know everybody, you have to hope as a fan

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Speaker 1: that Necessarium knows what he's doing. But this is a rebuild.

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00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't care what people say. The defense was horrible.

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Speaker 1: It needs to be rebuilt. JJ Wat's going to be gone.

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Speaker 1: That'll help the salary camp problem. I just rid of

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Speaker 1: the day. It could be up as much as one

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Speaker 1: ninety five if these new network TV deals get done,

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Speaker 1: which they're trying to do, and so it's gone from

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Speaker 1: a floor of one seventy five to possibly one ninety five.

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Speaker 1: And Watson, I think that if they don't trade him,

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Speaker 1: and they've said on the record, off the record, we're

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Speaker 1: not trading him, and so then I expect him to

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Speaker 1: dig in as Sean Penner gas colleague yesterday and staring contest.

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Speaker 1: So I think somebody might have been ESPN it figured

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Speaker 1: if he misses camp in preseason, if there is a

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Speaker 1: prison it cost him like three point six million, then

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Speaker 1: you don't get paid in regular season, and so it

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Speaker 1: could drag out. You know, then who would be the quarterback?

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing they resigned a J. McCarron. Josh McCown is

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Speaker 1: still there. If Watson's not there when the season starts,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have to have a third quarterback. I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: will still have protocols for COVID nineteen. But Nicssario needs

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Speaker 1: has a lot of work to do. He has eight

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Speaker 1: draft choices. If he does it's the way they did

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Speaker 1: it with New England, he'll acquire some more draft choices.

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Speaker 1: And I'm guessing by the time that fifty three man

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Speaker 1: roster is said the first week of September, that forty

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Speaker 1: five to fifty percent of this roster will be gone

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Speaker 1: by then. John, you mentioned the salary cap, and that

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Speaker 1: actually was where I was gonna go with this, because

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Speaker 1: I can't remember if I heard you say it or

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Speaker 1: heard somebody else said that the cap is potentially gonna

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Speaker 1: be at like one eighty or one eighty one, even

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Speaker 1: though the floor I think it was gonna be one

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Speaker 1: seventy five. But then you brought the TV deals, and

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Speaker 1: so I want to hit that real fast because it

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Speaker 1: kind of leads to a question. I'll ask you after

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Speaker 1: a little bit, will if they get the TV deals done,

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Speaker 1: could that impact this year's salary cap? And what I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's the timing on when that can happen and how

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Speaker 1: they could get an increased salary cap if they do

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Speaker 1: sign those deals. Albert Breyer's port Toals Traded. It was

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Speaker 1: a Thursday column with a lot of NFL news, said

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Speaker 1: today it could be up to one hundred ninety five million.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's people have no clue right now what

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Speaker 1: it is. ESPN said one hundred and eighty to one

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Speaker 1: eighty one. They don't have a clue. Another one said

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Speaker 1: it could be up to one eighty five. I'll just

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Speaker 1: make this prediction. It could be anywhere from one seventy

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Speaker 1: five to one night time. How about that you heard

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Speaker 1: it there on six ten, Which is why a lot

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Speaker 1: of these guys are And ESPN's contract expires after the

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Speaker 1: two thousand twenty one season. The other networks expires after

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Speaker 1: the two twenty two season. They want to get them

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Speaker 1: all done at the same time. They're going to bring

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Speaker 1: in a streaming service. Everybody thinks it's going to be Amazon.

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Speaker 1: Not exactly sure if they'll get Thursday Night Football or what.

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Speaker 1: But the fact is it's going to push the owners

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Speaker 1: TV money beyond a hundred billion dollars over the ten

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Speaker 1: year life of the deal or whatever they do do.

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Speaker 1: And so nobody wants to see a blood letting of players.

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Speaker 1: And if it were the floor of one seventy five,

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Speaker 1: it would happen across the league, and so teams like

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Speaker 1: say Jacksonville, New England, Indianapolis. With a lot of cab money,

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Speaker 1: they could run out and get a lot of veteran

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Speaker 1: players if that's what they wanted to do, So the

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Speaker 1: union certainly doesn't want that. So the union, and the

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Speaker 1: union plays a role in all this. The Union wants

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Speaker 1: that cap to be as much as possible. It's not

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Speaker 1: going to go past the one ninety eight where we

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Speaker 1: were this year or last year. And in ordinarily there

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Speaker 1: would have been a increase of ten to twelve million,

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Speaker 1: so say it would have been two hundred ten million.

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Speaker 1: So even if it's one ninety five, that's great. If

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Speaker 1: it's one eighty five, the Texans will be seven point

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Speaker 1: one million over the cap. If they release or trade JJ,

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Speaker 1: that clears up seventeen point five million. And Nick Cassio's

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Speaker 1: got some tough decisions to me. Do you eat contracts,

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Speaker 1: cut guys, trade guys because their changes are coming on

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Speaker 1: this roster, that's why they hired them and David Culley John.

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Speaker 1: How the Texans do next year is based in large

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Speaker 1: part by how the division looks. So let's go there

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00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars hiring Urban Meyer. I haven't heard your

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00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: comments on him yet and how that might look and

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00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: is there any shot that they don't draft Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: What if I've written and I believe that at some

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Speaker 1: point Watson and his agent, David Mullaghetta are to have

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Speaker 1: a face to face meeting with necessary Oh, David Culley,

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Speaker 1: Tim Kelly, and Pep Hamilton, PEPs a great quarterback coach,

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Speaker 1: one of the best in the NFL, have a meeting

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00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: socially distanced and lead Watson stat his case because they

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Speaker 1: haven't talked to him. And then if he can convince

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Speaker 1: them that he's willing to dig in and lose millions

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Speaker 1: of money and fines and come in was it four

647
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Speaker 1: games you got to be in to get credit for

648
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Speaker 1: a season, and come in for four games to get

649
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: credit for the season. So he'll get thirty five million

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Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty two, and say they decided, Okay,

651
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: we believe him. We have to trade him. I've said

652
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: all along, I think they should trade him to the Jets,

653
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: because it's the only way you could be guaranteed to

654
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: getting the second best quarterback prospect behind Lawrence. But what if,

655
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: and I don't think this will happen, What if Nick

656
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: Cassario called urban Meyer and said, look, you know you've

657
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: retired twice for health reasons. Wouldn't you like would your

658
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: rather have a quarterback who has developed, a great quarterback,

659
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: great kid, great in the community, twenty five who beat

660
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: your brains in every year? Would you rather have him?

661
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: Or an untested guy like Trevor Lawrence, even though he's

662
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: the highest graded prospect since Andrew Luck Would Urban Meyer

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00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: do that deal? Would watching Waves trade cause? Would the

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Speaker 1: Taxis trade him? Within the division? So right now, as

665
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: they've said, they're not trading him, and I believe I'm

666
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: right now they have no intentions of trading him. But man,

667
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: as they get close to the draft and teams start

668
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: to maybe give them a offer they can't refuse, and

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Speaker 1: the Jets of two ones, two twos next two years,

670
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: two ones this year, two ones next year, So they

671
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: could trade starting with their two ones, which should be high,

672
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: and they would still have their two low ones from Seattle.

673
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: Get there twos, get a couple of starters, maybe take

674
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Speaker 1: Sam Darrell to start until the second of overall pick

675
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: is ready. People ask me, I'm just writing this. Somebody

676
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: said they get Justin Fields. I was, I doubt they're

677
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: getting Justin Fields because he's represented by the same guys.

678
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Speaker 1: Was how deep do you think that goes? John? Because

679
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Speaker 1: Trey Lance from North Dakota State is working with Quincy Avery,

680
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Speaker 1: who is also the Shawn's quarterback coach. So and I

681
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 1: like Trey Lance, I'll be honest with you. So do

682
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 1: you think it gets to even that point? I don't

683
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Speaker 1: even know we're gonna talk about Trey Lance, to be

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Speaker 1: honest with you, But do you think that there could

685
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: be something there if they're not you know, if if

686
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: David Mulghetta is Deshawn's agent and kind of continues to

687
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: usher DeShawn out of Houston, do you think it's gonna

688
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: go as deep as even Quincy Avery being the quarterback coach,

689
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: oh Deshaun Watson that they won't want anything to do

690
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: with that. Well, let's be honest here, David Mulgett is

691
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: not doing anything Deshaan Watson doesn't want him to do.

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00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: You know, they have a strategy and I'm waiting to

693
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Speaker 1: see what's going to be next. And and Trey Lance

694
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 1: played one game last year. It was almost like an

695
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: audition for the NFL. So you gotta go on what

696
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: he did two years ago. And when I think was

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Speaker 1: his only year as a starter. You know, you look

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00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: at guys that started one year in college, Mitchester, Bisky,

699
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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, remember Bill Parsals. You see he wouldn't take

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Speaker 1: a quarterback and wasn't a starter in college for at

701
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: least three years. Now, maybe he would change that today

702
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: because they leave college so early and it's Trevor Lawrence

703
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: and everybody else, and the draft texerts say there's more

704
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of quality this year than it looks like there

705
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: will be in two twenty two. So maybe if the

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: Texans think they're going to get one in two, problem is,

707
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Speaker 1: you don't matter who it will be. Is there Joe

708
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: Burrow out there to come out of left field and

709
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: blow everybody away and be the number one overall pick?

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00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: Great as a rookie, you don't know. But the problem

711
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: this year there's no combine. You can't have a private workout.

712
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: You can send three guys to the Pro days, and

713
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,439
Speaker 1: they're trying to orchestrate the Pro days based on what

714
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: the combine is. But here's what's going to happen. And

715
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Speaker 1: because Sario has got six Super Bowl rings, he played

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Speaker 1: a role in one reason I'm hoping that he could

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00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: meet with Watson. Is Watson remember his last zoom with us?

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00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: He said, I just want to hold up a Lombardi Trophy.

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Speaker 1: And if Nick could somehow meet with the Sean, he

720
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: should have his six replicas on the table and the

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Speaker 1: six Super Bowl rings on the table. Puling say, de Sean,

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Speaker 1: you said you want to hold up a Lombardi Trophy. Well,

723
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Speaker 1: I know how to do it, and it starts with

724
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Speaker 1: a great quarterback, and you're our great quarterback. Let's do

725
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: this together and see where it would go from there.

726
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Speaker 1: But I have a lot of confidence in Cassario because

727
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 1: you know, he was built up to a right hand

728
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: man for a long time. I'll talk to people that

729
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: worked with him that new work, that have worked with him,

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Speaker 1: that played have covered you know Ted Johnson. Ted thinks

731
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: he's going to be great as a general management. You

732
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: never know, and he's got his work cut out. So

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Speaker 1: I feel what decisions he makes are going to be

734
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: good decisions. But it's going to take a while. And

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the quarterback, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: go on game tape like they did in the old

737
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: days before there was no combine. And sometimes I wonder

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Speaker 1: could teams do any worse if all they had was

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00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: game tape. Well, the problem on Trey Lance you got

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Speaker 1: one game and I don't know. This is what's going

741
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: on with Carson Wentz, even though he's a totally different quarterback.

742
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Speaker 1: Could that cause somebody to say, well, you know, I

743
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: don't think I want to get in another with a

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Speaker 1: quarterback coming from that level of competition. Give me one

745
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: of these guys that face big time competition. But it's

746
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: certainly going to be interesting. And there's never a day

747
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: that goes by when the Texans are not the news somewhere.

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00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: Problem with Miami. Miami has a third pick, as we

749
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Speaker 1: all know from the Texans last year. The Patriots need

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. You know, Nick Caserio studied all those quarterbacks

751
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: last year. What if he thinks, put to a tone

752
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: of a LOOA is a franchise quarterback. What if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't If he didn't think he was a franchise quarterback,

754
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Speaker 1: why would he want him included any deal? Because if

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Speaker 1: you go with Miami, you get the third overall pick

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00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: back and it could be the third best quarterback, and

757
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: that could be justin fields there. If Zach Wilson goes

758
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: second overall and also Miami was ten and six. Everybody

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00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: thinks it's going to be really good for a while

760
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Speaker 1: under Brian Flores. So if you make a train with Miami,

761
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: he's safer. Their next three number one picks can't go

762
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Speaker 1: longer than three years, and you end up with low

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Speaker 1: number one picks every year, like Detroit's probably going to

764
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Speaker 1: do with their two from the Rams. Be low number

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Speaker 1: one pigs. And if you're going to trade the franchise quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you better get away with highway robbery, and your fan

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Speaker 1: base better know it. John, thanks so much for joining us,

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Speaker 1: and we look forward to reading everything there's to read

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Speaker 1: and listen to and whatever we do with the chronicle.

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Speaker 1: Thank you great much great being back on with you guys,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Every Thursday, usually at six tonight

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Speaker 1: we had David Kelley on special visit with the head coach,

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Speaker 1: and usually the coaches shows on Monday. As everyone knows,

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Speaker 1: and boy this you know this hot stove stuff. Some

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Speaker 1: of it is just you put the pan on the

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Speaker 1: stove and you heat it up and there's nothing in

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Speaker 1: the pan, of course, and probably what most of it

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Speaker 1: is going to be. But it's fun to talk about

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00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: stuff anyway, not fun to talk about trading anybody though. However,

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Speaker 1: Johnny and I back next segment, Quick visit. I've got

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Speaker 1: some questions for him, and we have some reaction to

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Speaker 1: the Cullie interview. Let's get to it here on Texans

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go to Texans Fit if I'm

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Speaker 1: going to have the energy of David Culley Johnny as

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00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: we had him on earlier. I mean, sixty five years

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Speaker 1: old and he's arians is sixty eight andy eight to

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Speaker 1: sixty two, so he's like right in the middle. He's

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Speaker 1: the average age and he's ready to go to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year. Good. I mean, the guy is

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00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: just the infectious personality. I don't you know. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: It's still a mystery though, what they're really going to

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00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: look like here, you know yet, Tim Kelly back, you

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Speaker 1: have Pep Hamilton on the staff. I mean, they've announced

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Speaker 1: these things, but they've all been reported, and I'm just

815
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: eager to see what the offense is gonna look like.

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00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: Love these defense It's gonna be different than what we've

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00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: seen the last few years. Yeah, and I wonder, you know,

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Speaker 1: to John's point, he talked about a rebuild. I wonder

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Speaker 1: how that, you know, impacts what's on the roster, what

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00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: they'll bring in. Just that that that always happens with

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff change, you know, what what um what

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Speaker 1: changes in scheme, precipitate, the different type players you look for,

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So that always is to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm always curious how that all comes together. So uh

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00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: so we'll see. But yeah, John, John alluded to it

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Speaker 1: a lot of decisions. But Mark, I'll tell you this,

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Speaker 1: that cap is at one five. There there are some

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Speaker 1: decisions I think that that Nicko Sario can make as

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00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: it pertains to the business of this whole thing. But man,

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Speaker 1: at one ninety five, if you make some of those,

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Speaker 1: I think you can do some things with your salary

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00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: cap to open up some money for free agency. The

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00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: question at that point is what and who do you target?

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Speaker 1: And the one question that John answered a couple of

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Speaker 1: days ago, I think it was I can't remember who

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00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: he was on with, but I actually heard him say it.

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Speaker 1: I think he was on with with Wade and Show

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Speaker 1: and they asked about Will Fuller and Wade and John

839
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: were like, oh yes, he's coming back, and John even

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00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: wants as far as to say, yeah, they'll franchise him

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Speaker 1: for the year and try and get it, try and

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Speaker 1: get a deal done that yeah, Will would be coming back.

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Speaker 1: I mean, John was very adamant about that being the case.

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Speaker 1: And I hope that's the case. I really hope that's

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Speaker 1: the case, that Will's coming back. But if that cap

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00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: is a one ninety five, that's just gonna that's just

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00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: gonna open you up that much more to make a

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Speaker 1: decision like that. And here's the other things pertaining as receivers.

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Speaker 1: Because I know people here that about Will about coming back,

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Speaker 1: that's great news. If that doesn't happen. This draft class

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00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: is outstanding at receiver. The free agency class is outstanding

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Speaker 1: at receiver. Two point where PFF and here I go

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Speaker 1: quoting PF. I can't believe I'm doing it, But they

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00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: had their top fifty free agents. Will was the number

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Speaker 1: nine wide receiver and he was at number thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: So you've got a bowload a free agent center out there,

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Speaker 1: and you've got a great draft class or receiver that's

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Speaker 1: on par if not better than last year. With a

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Speaker 1: couple of high profile receivers at the top of this draft.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to get a receiver out of this,

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Speaker 1: can feel pretty good with and if to Cape n yeah,

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Speaker 1: you'll find a receiver in free agency and maybe in

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Speaker 1: the draft if you want one, because you'll be able

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Speaker 1: Then come and do something for your squad. Yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: you have to obviously, you have to have to Shaun

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question about that. And you hope

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Speaker 1: that if there's an offseason program, you get that time

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Speaker 1: that you need to develop continuity and everything. We don't

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Speaker 1: know what it's gonna look like, because it feels like

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Speaker 1: with Corona virus that you know, it almost feels like

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Speaker 1: any minute's gonna get better. But oh, this thing could

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Speaker 1: drag out another year. I don't know. I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: on the fence with that. But you do read some

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Speaker 1: promising reports and from some doomsayers anyway, that they're starting

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Speaker 1: we got to stop it right there, hard stop and

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Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow night, Johnny and I'll beyon. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about a whole bunch of stuff related to your

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. I mean, I feel like I've only been

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Speaker 1: on the air a couple of times so far this year, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: So I need to get rolling here. You gotta shake

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Speaker 1: off the russ And also tomorrow night, Casey Keeler head

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Speaker 1: Nice looking forward to that. All right, thank you very

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Speaker 1: much for listening, Thank you Brandon for producing. Thank you

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