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Speaker 1: Linebacker is a position that has in some NFL circles

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Speaker 1: become a bit undervalue, but it was pretty clear the

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Speaker 1: this last offseason, bringing in Bobby o'carake, and then you

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Speaker 1: have Darren Beavers coming back from his Year one knee injury,

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Speaker 1: trying to get back in and make an impact in

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Speaker 1: year two. I'm John Schmelck. Welcome to the Giants Little Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Our player interview series continues. Remember these all took place

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Speaker 1: shortly after MIDI caamp as we reviewed the offseason and

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Speaker 1: looked ahead to twenty twenty three. We're gonna lead off

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Speaker 1: with Bobby o'carake the Giants Vet, and then were gonna

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Speaker 1: wrap it up with Darian Beavers, who maybe was the

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Speaker 1: one interview I enjoyed the most doing all of these.

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Speaker 1: That dude is pumped up and ready to go. Well,

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Speaker 1: we lead off with new edition Bobby ocare okay, all right,

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Speaker 1: and now we're joined by the new centerpiece of the

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Speaker 1: New York Giants defense, Bobby ok Bobby, how are you man?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, brother. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. It's good to see again. We spoke

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Speaker 1: when you first got here. Now you've actually done stuff,

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Speaker 1: football stuff with players and coaches. So I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: had expectations based on what you thought it would be like.

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Speaker 1: Has it been what you thought? Has it been different?

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Speaker 3: I mean it' stuff.

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Speaker 4: He exceeded my expectations, I think, especially on the defense,

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Speaker 4: just knowing how talented the players on the defense were,

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Speaker 4: but I think just realizing that they're better human beings

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Speaker 4: than players. I mean, meeting Dextera, Lawrence, meeting Xavier McKinney,

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Speaker 4: meeting Leonard Williams, Door Jackson, Darnay, all these guys.

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Speaker 3: There's a great.

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Speaker 4: Locker room culture here and adding that to the talent

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Speaker 1: Was anyone happier in the building when they signed a

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Speaker 1: Sean Robinson than you, another big guy to keep those defensive.

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Speaker 3: Linemen off, for sure?

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Speaker 4: Exactly. I mean, we're stars started up front. You've got

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Speaker 4: Leonard Williams. You got Dexha Lawrence probably the top defensive

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Speaker 1: Have you gotten a better feel for exactly what Winks

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Speaker 1: of the stuff on the field and like ots in

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Speaker 1: mini camp or or did you already you think have

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Speaker 1: little bit more since you've done a little bit more

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Speaker 4: I've got a better feel. I mean just understanding the scheme,

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Speaker 4: understanding just kind of go to calls and what everybody

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Speaker 4: gels well and does well. But I mean it's a

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Speaker 4: growing process, especially like we haven't put any pads on yet.

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Speaker 4: So once we get a training camp we iron things

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Speaker 1: Do you see the potential of Bobby the blitzer or

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Speaker 1: maybe you haven't had a chance to do that as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's fun. It's just you simplify football.

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Speaker 4: You play fast, you play physical, and you take the

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Speaker 4: thinking out of it, and I think Wink does a

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Speaker 1: You know, the way people have explained this defense to

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Speaker 1: but it's simpler for you guys because your roles are

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Speaker 1: often similar. You're just in different places and it looks

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Speaker 4: I Mean people talk about it being a positionless defense,

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Speaker 4: and I think that's great because you don't come in

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Speaker 4: of safe. You learn the defense as a whole, and

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Speaker 4: you learn the concepts. So you learn that I'm okay,

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Speaker 4: so then you can interchange it. You can mix rock

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Speaker 4: it's just it keeps us playing together as units.

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Speaker 1: Have you been in the defense quite like this before

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Speaker 3: No, this is my first experience with it.

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Speaker 1: What's what do you think this thing can look like?

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Speaker 1: If everything goes the way it's supposed to, it.

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Speaker 4: Can be a lot of fun, a lot of sacks

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Speaker 1: Finally, how do you just envision yourself kind of coming

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Speaker 1: what are giant fans you think going to see you

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Speaker 1: do on the field personally? When this in this defense,

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Speaker 4: I mean they're gonna see fifty eight flying sideline a sideline.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna see me running all over the field, making

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Speaker 4: big hits, big plays, and I do whatever I can

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Speaker 4: to help this team win.

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Speaker 1: So I like to hear Bobby can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: it too. Man, appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Do you love it?

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Speaker 4: Brother?

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Speaker 1: All right, and now we're joined by Giants second year

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Speaker 1: linebacker Darian Beavers, Darian, how are you.

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm good, Man, I'm good. I'm in good spirits

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, you're smiling and you're not quite doing everything yet,

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Speaker 3: So obviously come and being a six pound draft pick,

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Speaker 3: I had a chip on my shoulder coming in here.

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Speaker 1: In fact, we talked about that at the stable last Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yes, for sure, and I just wanted to, like I said,

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Speaker 3: I have seen my improvements. I've also seen a period

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Speaker 3: Right now, I can see the light at the end

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like for story camp you're gonna be

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Speaker 3: Go at this moment right now? Started first day of

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Speaker 3: like I said, I'm just in good spirits. I'm seeing

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Speaker 3: for me, it's just like I said, just make sure

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Speaker 1: And I think, and I've talked to other people that

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Speaker 1: There's dips. Sometimes you go down a little bit sometime

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Speaker 1: What was the process like just mentally processing that so

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Speaker 3: It's just you just have good people around you, and

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Speaker 3: For the fantamic yes, yes, And for me it was

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Speaker 3: just I'm not gonna lie. I had some downtimes, like

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Speaker 3: I just I'm just in good spirits right now, man,

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like you were on the way of

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Speaker 1: Is that takes a while, but were you getting there?

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Speaker 3: I definitely saw improvement of my game and I was

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Speaker 3: I don't know what I would have been at that

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Speaker 1: That's what it was.

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Speaker 3: I just red shirted. My body is actually a more

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Speaker 3: hopefully this year I can actually get a really good

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Speaker 3: start and get back to where I left things off

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Speaker 3: Yeah? So I mean obviously, like I said, I was

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Speaker 3: So for me, it was just making sure that I

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Speaker 3: I kept my mind on football and game plan like

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Speaker 3: it was just basically me red shirting and me just

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Speaker 1: And then you have to wa to that linebacker room

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Speaker 1: basically have like a new guy in there every three days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was crazy. It's crazy meeting

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Speaker 3: be bonded and we still keep in touch. And that's

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Speaker 3: just that just goes to show the team in thus,

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Speaker 3: like the defense in general, just how team bonding really

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Speaker 3: helps with us and that's what we uh. That was

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Speaker 1: How about the group this year? You have Bobby Okak,

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Speaker 1: he compliments what you do really well. Yeah, So what

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Speaker 1: has it kind of been like, you know, learning from

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's always a blessed having older people

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Speaker 3: Like I saw him one morning when I was doing

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Speaker 3: of the things that I can take.

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Speaker 1: Final question now knowing exactly what Wink wants out of

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Speaker 1: you in this system, right his linebacker is a very

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Speaker 1: nebulous position. You can play like five different roles and

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Speaker 1: out of you. How much did that help you physically

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Speaker 3: For me, it's just I kind of was already attacking

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Speaker 3: it man, to be honest with you, like before, like

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Speaker 3: I sat down and talked to him, it was just

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Speaker 3: more about, like I said, I had a chip on

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Speaker 3: it's just me, like I'm a six round pick to

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Speaker 2: C l should have been a day to think, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna comment on that I can do it,

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Speaker 2: that's okay, and to my a CL So now it's

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Speaker 3: So for me, it was just I'm gonna I have

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Speaker 3: And this off season I stayed here. I didn't go nowhere.

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Speaker 3: I stayed here. We still have here. I trained here

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Speaker 3: that's basically what Wink tries to put in me, like

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Speaker 3: I just I just want to give it all I

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Speaker 3: I'll prove I'll prove you right.

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Speaker 1: Well, we can't wait to see it. Darren get stuff

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Speaker 1: than And did you feel the energy coming off of

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Speaker 1: Darien Beaver's in that interview. I know I did sitting

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Speaker 1: Because he is ready to go and confident that he

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Speaker 1: if he is in fact on the field when trading

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Speaker 1: camp starts in late July. Thank you to him. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to Bobby oka Ka as well. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being with us and joining us for the Giants Total

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Speaker 1: podcast and filling your days during the summer with us.

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Speaker 1: We'll see next time, everybody. Thank you,