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Speaker 1: Welcome back to all the smoke.

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Speaker 2: Baseball man, this is a really cool one today someone

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Speaker 2: I got a chance to go to college with. We're

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Speaker 2: just kind of reminiscing about Westwood. One of the best

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Speaker 2: second basements of all time. Two hundred and fifty nine

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Speaker 2: career home run six All Stars for Silver Sluggers. He

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Speaker 2: got them a ring in two thousand and eight, seven

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Speaker 2: career World Series home runs, most ever for its second basement.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen years of the Phillies, then came over to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, fellow bruin, Chase Utley, welcome to show.

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Speaker 1: How's life.

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Speaker 3: Life is good? The complaints. I've been retired now seven

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Speaker 3: or eight years. Time flies, but enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: What was that transition? Like? I mean, you walked away

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Speaker 2: Not too many people get to do that, and I

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Speaker 2: think I tell people I was lucky enough to do

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Speaker 2: the same thing. But I feel like, if there's still

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Speaker 2: a little bit in there, the transition can be a

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Speaker 1: But you walked away and you were good with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was good with it. It can be a tough one.

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Speaker 3: I've seen teammates not necessarily make the decision for themselves.

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Speaker 3: And the team makes it for him. And I just

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Speaker 3: saw how that kind of went and I didn't love that.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to make sure that I made my

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Speaker 3: to shut it down. But I was almost forty years old.

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Speaker 3: It was it was a good run, but it was

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Speaker 2: Congratulations. Explain what you got going on with the Dodgers now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I took a front office role as there as

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Speaker 3: their special assistant to to Andrew Friedman, who's there, their

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Speaker 3: mad scientist baseball ops, who is a mad scientist. He's amazing.

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Speaker 3: He brings in the right people. He's been super successful,

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Speaker 3: not only here with the Dodgers, but when he was

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Speaker 3: in Tampa Bay. You know, I can't say say enough

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Speaker 3: great things about him.

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Speaker 2: So before you did this, you were overseas for a

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Speaker 1: Can you explain what that was?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually was a full family adventure. My wife

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Speaker 1: Where were you guys at We.

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Speaker 3: Were in London. We were in notting Hill to be

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Speaker 3: exactly where we were living. The MLB office was a

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Speaker 3: my wife had talked about a long time ago when

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Speaker 3: I was still playing, saying, listen, when you're done, you know,

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Speaker 3: live somewhere else? So that time came and kind of

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Speaker 3: figured out where we wanted to go, and London is

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Speaker 3: an amazing city, no language barriers. We thought that would

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Speaker 3: be easier for our kids and us, and we pulled

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Speaker 3: Obviously was involved in some baseball stuff, but also just

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Speaker 3: remember it. Yeah, I definitely think they'll appreciate that. You

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Speaker 3: get a chance to finish your career with the Dodgers,

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Speaker 3: And we'll get into that later. But this team as

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Speaker 3: a whole, obviously you're on the management side. It's operating

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Speaker 3: at a different level, and it's producing rings, and it's

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Speaker 3: it like stepping into this type of energy compared to

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Speaker 3: how it was when you were playing, When you finish

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Speaker 3: and he was starting to bring in some amazing players, personnel,

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Speaker 3: There's a reason why they're so successful. Obviously, Andrew and

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Speaker 3: his team of people navigate correctly, bring in the right people.

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Speaker 3: They've obviously had some success. They're able to spend more

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Speaker 3: And yes, there's a reason why they're so talented.

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Speaker 2: I think the Lakers are hoping to get some of

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Speaker 2: that secret sauce now that managements are crossing paths. Old school,

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Speaker 2: old school type of player, you know, grew up watching

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Speaker 2: that's what really drew me back to this space because

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Speaker 2: I feel like that was such a special time for baseball.

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Speaker 1: When did you start playing? When'd you fall in love

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Speaker 3: I grew up in long aage, so not too far

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Speaker 3: I was. I was a huge Dodger fan growing up,

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Speaker 3: Angel games, but mainly mainly Dodger games, and watched their

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Speaker 3: their success. I mean, they won the nineteen eighty eight

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Speaker 1: My soul hurts, my soul.

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Speaker 4: I'm from up North, yes, I apologize, but hey, it

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Speaker 4: was a good it was a good, great series, great run,

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Speaker 3: That I grew up watching.

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Speaker 3: That was Dodgers teams in the late eighties, and then

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Speaker 2: Agree because I grew up in the same time watching

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Speaker 1: What positions did you up playing.

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Speaker 3: I was always an infielder. I was a second baseman.

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Speaker 3: played played shortstop. But I also played basketball, not not

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Speaker 3: There was a certain point in time where I loved

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Speaker 1: Mm hm.

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Speaker 2: The league today similar again to the end, it's softened

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Speaker 2: have you kind of seen that slow transition phase out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely see it phase out, and I understand

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Speaker 3: There was a ball that hit him. He didn't like it,

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Speaker 3: MLB has kind of slowed that process down. Less less

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Speaker 2: As I told you before we started interview, we had

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Speaker 2: jim and the other day and obviously spoke very highly

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Speaker 1: Where did that attention to detail come from?

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Speaker 2: And just the study process behind the game, because I

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Speaker 1: Or on the court.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. I always felt like I

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Speaker 3: So I would kind of run through a game plan

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Speaker 2: Any pictures when you were doing your home maybe give

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Speaker 2: me two or three pictures where you really had to

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Speaker 3: There's some of you just it's it's hard to get

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Speaker 3: There's no there's no one way. They get guys out

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Speaker 3: And then put a game plan to counteract that. There

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Speaker 2: As you said earlier, grew up Long Beach, went to

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Speaker 2: their Snoop, Tony Gwynn, Cameron Diaz, Blle, Jean King, to

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Speaker 1: Said you played a little hoop. I like to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Any guys you grew up around your area playing with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't mention Milton Bradley. He was one year

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Speaker 3: Some guys within Long Beach havel for sure.

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 3: It's a good base, but it's good sports.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, turns out talent. You were drafted by the second

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Speaker 1: Turned it down twenty thousand.

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Speaker 2: If I was in high school, you know it had

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Speaker 2: overall in the two thousand draft. What went into your process?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a interesting one. That whole my whole senior year.

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Speaker 3: Everything happened pretty quickly. I was long story short, but

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Speaker 2: Great choice when you decided to make the move. You're there,

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Speaker 2: Thursday nights and Westwood we're killing our basketball team, our

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Speaker 1: That's the one experience I feel like.

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Speaker 2: Minor league life, I mean, you got to live it

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Speaker 3: It was exciting. I mean, you that's your goal once

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Speaker 2: Give me an example, because I don't really know. I

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Speaker 3: You don't see it happen very often, if at all.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe that just happened. I mean, obviously the

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Speaker 2: Of so, was it the next day or shortly afterward

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was it was the next day.

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Speaker 2: Next day obviously, Billing we have that old on let's

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Speaker 1: That goes to the grand slave your sprint and.

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Speaker 3: was the general manager, is a serious guy, no messing around,

439
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 3: and he's very buttoned up and serious. If it was

440
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 3: just Kruck and Boa, I probably would not have bought

441
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 3: into it. But the fact that Ed Wade was in

442
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 3: the room had my wheelspinn it quite a bit, quite

443
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: a bit. And I don't know if you know Kroky,

444
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 3: but he's a he's a jokester, and Bowie is as well.

445
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 3: But but Ed Wade, at least from what I knew

446
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 3: of him at the time, was not a joke or whatsoever. So, yeah,

447
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 3: they got me for sure.

448
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: Who were some of the older guys, the Vetskrick.

449
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 3: I was, I yeah, I think, I mean, it's it's good.

450
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: I didn't hear about that. What was that?

451
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? So Kyle, Kyle Kendrick was a young picture for

452
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 3: all for that. No, they traded him, you know, they

453
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 3: traded him to a Japanese team for like Kobe.

454
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right, that's right.

455
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: And he was so young and so gable, and the

456
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 3: fact that they let it play out throughout the course

457
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: of the day. It wasn't just five minutes later they

458
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 3: told him. This was full interviews with all the media,

459
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 3: everybody addressing it. So I don't know how long until

460
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: they broke it to him that they were just kidding,

461
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 3: But it was quite a bit, to the point I

462
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: think he might have had some tears at a certain point.

463
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 3: It was a rough one.

464
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: Who are some of your vets? And did you have

465
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: to do deal with any Ricky Haysing a little bit.

466
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: Let me look back. Let's see so two and three

467
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: my favorite player who once I got to high school

468
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,879
Speaker 3: and I started developing a little bit, Jim Tomy was

469
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: a guy that I watched every morning before I went

470
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 3: to school. I would wait on you know, Baseball tonight,

471
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 3: whatever whatever program was showing highlights. I'd wait for the

472
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 3: Indians highlights that come on, and I wanted to see

473
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: what Jim Tomy did. And I mean they had Jim

474
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 3: Tomey like Kenny Lofton Albert Bell. They had such an

475
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: amazing team in the mid mid nineties. Anyways, Jim Tomy

476
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 3: was was a guy that I looked up to obviously

477
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 3: a lot. So he was he was in the in

478
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 3: the clubhouse in such an amazing human being. Obviously fantastic,

479
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 3: phenomenal baseball player, but even better human being. So he

480
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 3: was kind of leading the charge there was. It was

481
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 3: an older veteran group that I that I recall. Pat

482
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: Burrow was a younger guy that took me under his

483
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 3: wing quite a bit, and you kind of showed me

484
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: how to how to act like a big leigure, how

485
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 3: to how to treat people, how to you know where

486
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 3: to be at, what what time, what to do, what

487
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: not to do. Those are two guys that really stick

488
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: out the most.

489
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: As you kind of get older and and what did

490
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 2: you take from your rookie experiences as far as treating

491
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: them a certain way? And by the time you were

492
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: a vet, how did you treat the younger guys.

493
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely evolved over the years. I feel like

494
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: the rookie hazing when I got up wasn't too bad.

495
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 3: I mean, there's you know, chores that you have to do.

496
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 3: People throw stuff on the ground, you got to pick

497
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: it up. You have to wear stupid clothes at times,

498
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 3: and that's just that was a part of the culture

499
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 3: back then. Now it's not. It's not quite like that.

500
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: Guys are the rookies are embraced in the clubhouse. They're

501
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 3: not They're not talked down to. They are respected immediately,

502
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: which I think is helpful. Now you know, you feel

503
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 3: like you're part of this group and you can have

504
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: some success. So I'm that that part of the game.

505
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 3: I'm happy with how that's gone.

506
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 1: Hit by pitch ninth all time.

507
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 2: You almost got hit by one hundred and one mile

508
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: an hour fastball by Chapman in the face.

509
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the one.

510
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: I remember playing baseball through high school and I stopped

511
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 2: at i think my junior year, but getting hit by

512
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 2: a pitch like no one wanted, But there was a

513
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: couple of guys that really liked it.

514
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: I remember kidnamed b J. Cron.

515
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 2: He used to love leaning into everything. What does it

516
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 2: take to get hit by that many pitches that are

517
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: throwing that hard? Even the off speed shit got it hurt.

518
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 2: But what is what's in your mind when you're just

519
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 2: I'm aware.

520
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 3: This, Yeah, I mean it's a it's a longer, longer story,

521
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: but it.

522
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: Reminds me of Adam Saylor and happy or is it

523
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: Happy Gilmour when he wants to be a hockey player

524
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: and he goes on the batty cage.

525
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: It just lets fucking balls hit him.

526
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 3: That's a good one. I mean it all goes back

527
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: again to you know, grown up and watching the old

528
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 3: school baseball. It was it was show no fear, show

529
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: no weakness, play with some anger, and that's that's how

530
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 3: I how I went about it. So when it came

531
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 3: by getting hit by a pitch, it was I'm not

532
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: going to show any fear. I'm not going to show

533
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 3: that I'm upset. I'm not going to show that that hurt.

534
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 3: And it was all all part of it. And then

535
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: having the team that we had with you know, Jimmy

536
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 3: and Victorino starting to start in the charge, then I

537
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: was after them, and then Big Ryan Howard was right

538
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: after us, and and Pepper and so on and so forth.

539
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 3: Like you wanted to be on bass for these guys.

540
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: So it was just another way to get on base

541
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: and score more runs.

542
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: As you were acting like that ship didn't hurt. Is

543
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: there one pitch that the mind It just fucked you up, like, oh,

544
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 2: but you couldn't show it.

545
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few. There's I got hit in the

546
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: right in the middle of the spine, but lefty. I

547
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: don't know how hard it was, but it wasn't soft.

548
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: Right when it hits you on the bone, it hurts

549
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: just a little bit me, So what on the spine?

550
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: There was one time I got hit like right underneath,

551
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: like the bicep, and my hand and my whole arm

552
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: in hand went completely numb. But I couldn't open my hand.

553
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: It was like stuck closed. I thought my whole arm

554
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 3: was broken. Right, pretended like it didn't hurt, even though

555
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: it was the worst one, probably of all of them.

556
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: Do you remember who threw that pitch?

557
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: It was a little lefty from the Mets. I don't

558
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 3: remember his name, but all I know is that that

559
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: one got me good.

560
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: Two thousand and five to two thousand and nine, you

561
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: were one of the best players in the game, averaged

562
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: about thirty home runs on hundred plus RBIs over that stretch,

563
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: bat at three hundred five consecutive All Star Games. What

564
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 2: do you remember about that time? Individually, and then how

565
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: was the team during that time as well. Obviously you

566
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 2: guys won a World Series within that run, but talk

567
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: to us about just where you were at mentally, where

568
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 2: you were at in your zone.

569
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, in two thousand and five, I finally got a

570
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: real runway to play on it every single day. And

571
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: that was a time Jimmy at that point probably had

572
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 3: five years or so in the big league, and we

573
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: started to put some pieces together that were younger but

574
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: super talented, and we started having some success. Especially offensively.

575
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: We could we could really score and manufacture some runs.

576
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: And you're you're trying, you're competing with yourself, you're competing

577
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 3: amongst your teammates. But the end of the day, we

578
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 3: were all kind of competing to win. But we all

579
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 3: we pushed each other to be a little bit better

580
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: on a daily basis. And I know you hear that

581
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: pretty cliche comment, but it's it's real.

582
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: It's such a fun feeling too, like what everything is

583
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: gelling as as an individual and as a team. It's

584
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: a really good like nothing can really knock you off.

585
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: That, no, not at all. And we were all I mean,

586
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: going back to my point, it was we were all young.

587
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 3: We were all fairly young in the big leagues, trying

588
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 3: to figure it out, trying to establish ourselves, trying to

589
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: create like a winning atmosphere, and it just started rolling

590
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 3: right and were this winning day after day, having big,

591
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: huge comebacks. Where our starting pittures at the time, we're

592
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: giving up some runs from what I recall, but it

593
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: didn't matter or how if we were down five runs

594
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 3: after the first or second and it didn't get us down.

595
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 3: We were still able to kind of claw our way

596
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 3: back and ended up winning a lot of games. So

597
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 3: that gave us obviously a lot of confidence within our group,

598
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: and slowly over the years we were just our front

599
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: off would just kind of build on that group, but young, energetic,

600
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: super athletic players, and we had some amazing teams.

601
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: Talk to me about the chemistry and how long it

602
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: took the chemistry to be built.

603
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: With you and Jimmy up the.

604
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: Middle, an incredible duel from both offensive standpoint and a

605
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: defensive standpoint. But what was the process like building chemistry

606
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: with Jimmy.

607
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 3: It was fairly easy one. Jimmy is such a gifted player,

608
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 3: but really gifted shortstop right, So me as a second basement,

609
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: I was known for my offense, not necessarily my defense,

610
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: So I needed to work twice as hard defensive within

611
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: offensively to be able to be not be a liability.

612
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: So we worked a ton together, obviously, whether it was

613
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 3: double plays, whether it was talking about certain situations, and

614
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 3: just over time, all the repetitions that we took, we

615
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: became much much more comfortable with each other. And from

616
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: a double play standpoint, and I'm turning the double play,

617
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 3: I mean, his feeds were like literally perfect every single time,

618
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: which I'm extremely thankful for. Yeah, yeah, definitely kept me safe.

619
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: So I feel extremely lucky to be to be on

620
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: the other side of the second base with him. He

621
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: was He was just such a gamer and and what

622
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: people don't necessarily realize about Jimmy is like he's a

623
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 3: real student of the game. And we would talk all

624
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: the time about strategies. I mean, the scattering reports that

625
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: we had then are much different than than the guys

626
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: have now, less in depth. It was, you know, you

627
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 3: had three different spots to play, and now you.

628
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Have like a whole breakdown.

629
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: Of areas. So we would sometimes we would go against

630
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 3: the scattering port because we see what that hitter is

631
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: trying to do or maybe he's not feeling it that day,

632
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: so we would kind of move move around the field accordingly,

633
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: and we learned a lot about ourselves and about you know,

634
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 3: our pictures and their hitters in those moments.

635
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: You came before Ryan Howard, Yes, so, Jimmy you, and

636
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: then Ryan comes an incredible infield talk to us just

637
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: about that infield as a whole.

638
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: That was kind of when it really started to all click.

639
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: Adding Ryan's bat. Jim Tellmy was there before, but Brian

640
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: was really ascending through the through the minor leagues. Hitting

641
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 3: seemed like a home run every single night. So it

642
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: was time for him to have an opportunity to play

643
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 3: at the big league level. So he came in and

644
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: from day one he was just he was on fire.

645
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 3: And that really cemented our our confidence in that group.

646
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 3: And he was I mean, there was no hotter. When

647
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: he was hot, there was nobody better on the planet

648
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: than Ryan Howard, and I had a front row seat

649
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: on a nightly basis. I remember having conversations with the

650
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: first base and I'm on first and he's up and

651
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: thinking if hey, if he throws a strike, it's going

652
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,959
Speaker 3: to be a home run. In the first basement look

653
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: at me like whatever, dude, And sure enough, you could

654
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: just you just knew. You just knew by the preparation

655
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 3: that he put in, by the swings he was taking,

656
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: he was he was in the zone and he carried

657
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: us at a lot of the time.

658
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: Two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, back to

659
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 2: back trips to the World Series. You had three home

660
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: runs in that postseason. You guys were on a mission

661
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: eleven and three beat the Raids in the World Series.

662
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: What's it like to get that first ring?

663
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: I mean, there's not. I mean that's when I'm asked, like,

664
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: what was the biggest accomplishment of your career? And that's

665
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 3: by far number one. It was no individual accomplishment. It

666
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: was winning the World Series with that group, because you

667
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: never know, you start out from spring training, you don't

668
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 3: know how it's going to go. You know you have

669
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: some good players, but you need to obviously be good,

670
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: you need to be lucky. It is from an injury standpoint,

671
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: and it all kind of clicked that year. We made

672
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: a We played so so throughout the course of the

673
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: first half, and then we really turned it on the

674
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: second half and got into the playoffs and we had

675
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 3: a we had an amazing team and and to do

676
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: it with the personalities that we did, and that at

677
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: that point, we had Shane Victorino in center, brought in

678
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: Jason Worth a couple of years earlier, super athletic right fielder,

679
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 3: great hitter, obviously Ryan and myself and Jimmy and Carlos

680
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: Reez was was our backstop. Pat Burrell had been there

681
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 3: for a long time. Uh had a really successful career

682
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia and for all kind of come together and

683
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: winning on the biggest stage in all of baseball. I mean,

684
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 3: there's no there's no better feeling. I mean, you know,

685
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: you won a championships.

686
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: So it's a different energy during that time in that run.

687
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: Who was an unsung hero during that run for you

688
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: in your mind?

689
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: I mean, we had so many guys it seemed like

690
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 3: it was it was different guys, a different Yeah. We

691
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: didn't feel like we needed you needed to be the

692
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 3: star on a nightly basis. We had a left handed hitter,

693
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: Jeff Jenkins came off the bench. So in the World Series,

694
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: if you if you recall, we we got essentially Game five,

695
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: we got shut down. I think in the seventh or

696
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: eighth inning. We didn't play again for like two more days,

697
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: so it was like, all right, we're gonna go play

698
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 3: two innings. We gotta we got to figure this out.

699
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: And and and Jenkins had wasn't starting, but he knew

700
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: he was going to pinch hit in this in early spot.

701
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: So we had a couple of days to think about it,

702
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: which can be as stressful as you can imagine. And

703
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: he came through with a huge, a huge hit. So

704
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: he was in that moment. Matt Stairs was the guy

705
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 3: that we got the trade deadline that hitld yes, just

706
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: hit moonshots.

707
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was there.

708
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 3: He was there to do one thing and one thing.

709
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Maddy was probably five eleven, maybe.

710
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: He looked about five eight on TV.

711
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: But he was He was fun. I mean moonshots, and

712
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: he was a veteran guy. He came over and he

713
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: would flat out say I'm here to hit it right

714
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: and first first swing and batting practice most guys like

715
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 3: get loose and hit the ball.

716
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: The other way.

717
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: Batting practice, he is trying to launch, which I thought

718
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: was was amazing.

719
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: That's dope.

720
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 2: Was that the year that in the preseason or early

721
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 2: in the season, Jimmy said, you guys were the team

722
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: to beat or was that.

723
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: The year before?

724
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 3: No, that was that year?

725
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: That year?

726
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 3: That was that year?

727
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: What was it like?

728
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: Because we had we talked to him and he said

729
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: some guys were in and then some guys in the

730
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: club where I said, like, yeah, what's talking about?

731
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: So me personally, I mean I liked I didn't I was.

732
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to lead by example, right. I wasn't super

733
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: vocal unless there was a reason to be. So the

734
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: last thing I wanted to do is give another team

735
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: like Bolton board material. So I was very cognizant of

736
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: how I answer questions and addressed the media in that way.

737
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: And Jimmy did not care, which I which I appreciate

738
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: and I love, but that's just not what I what

739
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: I would have done. So at first, like Jimmy, what

740
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 3: the fuck? Really, you're gonna You're gonna now you're putting

741
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: a bulls on us, But to his credit, he was right,

742
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: like it made us kind of all rise to the

743
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: occasion and going all right, you're not We're not sneaking

744
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 3: in here. People are going to come after us, and

745
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: we need to figure out how to win.

746
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 2: You hit five home runs in the next year's World Series,

747
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: You took a friend of the program CC three beat

748
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: three different times, although you lost to the Yankees. What

749
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 2: did it feel like to kind of be in that

750
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 2: zone in.

751
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: That World Series?

752
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, obviously those are those moments that it's

753
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 3: hard to really describe. You there's sometimes throughout the course

754
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: of the year that you're just locked in and every

755
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 3: pitch looks like it's a beach ball and you put

756
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: a good swing on it on no matter of where

757
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: it's located or what pitch is thrown. And that was

758
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: one of those times. And it doesn't always work out

759
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 3: the way, right, I mean, sometimes it happens the beginning

760
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: of the year. It just so happens. It happened in

761
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: the World Series. So yes, obviously fortunate for the success

762
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: that I had, but we ran into a pretty tough

763
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 3: CC was tough. We faced him the year four, which

764
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: he was he was with the Brewers at the time.

765
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 3: He came over with the trade deadline to the Brewers

766
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 3: and shut us down. Shane Victrian ended up hitting a

767
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: big home run late in the game often but we

768
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: weren't really sniffing him very much. And I mean, see

769
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: is one of the best pictures of all time. So

770
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: to get lucky and have a little success off him,

771
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: But yeah, obviously makes you feel good, but it would

772
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: have been nice to win that World Series.

773
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 1: Well, we transition out of the Phillies.

774
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: I want to ask about two guys that I really

775
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 2: liked from AFAR, Shane Victorino and Jason Worth.

776
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Talk to me about both those guys.

777
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, both amazing athletes, right, and you could put them

778
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: their outfields, You put them anywhere in the outfield and

779
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 3: you you knew that they were they were going to play,

780
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: and they were also again, they were true baseball players.

781
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: And when I say that, there's some guys that are

782
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: just good at baseball, and there's some guys that are

783
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 3: good at baseball but also have that hit factor of

784
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: being a true baseball player, being a student of the game,

785
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: and those guys guys had that. They both had speed,

786
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: they both had great arms that were extremely accurate, and

787
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 3: they both had the ability to hit a home run

788
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: but also hit the ball the other way. Shane being

789
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: a switch hitter, you know, I batted after him quite

790
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: a bit and he was on base a lot.

791
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: What's in it? He seems like a super high interview guy.

792
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 3: Shane, super high energy guy, and yes it's hard to

793
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 3: shut him up at times. But we love Shane. Yeah,

794
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: but yes, I mean without Shane, we don't. We don't

795
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 3: win the World Series. Without all those guys, we don't

796
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: don't want the Parts Series. And Jason uh came over.

797
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: I don't know. Pat Gillick pulled this out, pulled this

798
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 3: out of hat somehow, some way, but super talented player,

799
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 3: had some injury history, got him over for essentially nothing.

800
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: Same with Vic and turned into all star caliber players

801
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 3: on a on a championship caliber team.

802
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: I want to say, maybe in the last month, I

803
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: saw an Instagram video of Jason Worth playing in a

804
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 2: men's league and hitting the ball.

805
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Did you guys see that ship?

806
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah they were because did he strike

807
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: out first? I want to maybe up trip, but I

808
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: want to say he struck out first? Bro, have you

809
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: seen it?

810
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: I've seen it. Oh yeah, he sent it to me.

811
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: Oh he said he sent it to me. What Oh

812
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: got it?

813
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 3: What are you doing hitting homers out these poor guys?

814
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Oh that's funny.

815
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, good good player, good friend.

816
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

817
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 3: I love always always keeps it interesting.

818
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 2: I really liked. I mean, I liked all you guys,

819
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: but I like those two guys. To those guys seemed

820
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: the trade from the Phillies to the Dodgers. You spend

821
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: what twelve out of year sixteen? How does that come about?

822
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's a conversation that was had. What were

823
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 2: those conversations? How tough was it you? Although you're going

824
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: home right back to the original team that drafted you,

825
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: your heart was obviously in Philly.

826
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 3: Ye, you're at the nail on the head. I didn't

827
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 3: I never wanted to leave Philadelphia. We had such amazing teams,

828
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: that's great experience, fan base is incredible. But it was

829
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: that point in time where those guys that we were

830
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: just talking about slowly moving on, right, we were all

831
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: getting a little bit older. So, you know, we lose Shane,

832
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 3: Jimmy's traded worth is science as a free agent somewhere else.

833
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 3: So now that Nucleus is starting to get dismantled a bit,

834
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: and the organization needed some of these young guys to play,

835
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: and I distinctly remember Ruben saying, Hey, where do you

836
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 3: want to play? I said, I don't want to go.

837
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: I don't want to go anywhere. And then there was

838
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: one conversation they called me into his office with John Milton,

839
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: the one of the owners, and said, listen, we need

840
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: we need to see what we have in these some

841
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: of these young players. One of them, there's a second

842
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: basement we need to see. We just need to see

843
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: We're not We need to figure out what we have

844
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 3: in these guys. And you, we know you as a player.

845
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: We we think you still want to continue to win

846
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: and we don't know if we can win at this

847
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 3: at this moment, but we need to figure figure it out.

848
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: So where would you like to go play? And still

849
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: at that point, like guys, I don't. I don't want

850
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: to leave, but I under I understand their perspective. Do

851
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 3: I want to grow old and as I'm starting my

852
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: decline as a as a play player on a team

853
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: that may or may not make the playoffs? Or do

854
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: I want to have that experience on a team that

855
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: really has a great chance of making making the playoffs.

856
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 3: So I sat down with my wife and we talked

857
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: about it and said, Okay, the Dodgers. I'm going through

858
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 3: all the teams that I think have a real chance

859
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: and not what the writers are saying. I'm going with

860
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 3: my own eyes, might do my own homework on who

861
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: who really has a chance to get to the playoffs

862
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: and actually win a World Series, And the Dodgers were

863
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 3: right at the top of the list at that time.

864
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 3: They really started to start putting some pieces together. So

865
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 3: there was a few teams that that called I had

866
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 3: at that point I had I had no trade clause,

867
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: so I needed to authorize a trade. There's a few

868
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 3: teams that called it were interested. I just didn't really

869
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: have interest in going there. One, you know, at that

870
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: point I had a young family. One, it was you know,

871
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: not necessarily a city that I wanted to be in

872
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: from a logistics standpoint, or two I'm not sure they

873
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 3: had the ability to win from my perspective. And the

874
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: Dodgers finally finally called Howie Kendrick was a great second basement.

875
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: Tweaked his hamstring, so he was going to be out

876
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: for a long period of time and they needed someone

877
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: to manned second base. So then now now it's time.

878
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 1: To like getting real.

879
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting real quickly. So it took me like

880
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: twenty four hours to like really come to terms that

881
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to leave Philadelphia. But to your point, I

882
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 3: mean didn't want to leave, but to then go to

883
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 3: a team that I grew up watching that, I grew

884
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: up admiring. It was an easy choice at that point.

885
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: The kid in you, I want to talk to the

886
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: to little Chase, I mean, play baseball in Long Beach,

887
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: went to UCLA, and now you're back on your fate.

888
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: You know you're you're there, You're drafted there. Don't end

889
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: up going there. They're coming home and playing for your hometown,

890
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: your favorite team. Like, what's the kid in you feeling?

891
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 2: Once obviously a lot of love for Philly, not trying

892
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: to discredit that, but going home most likely you know

893
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: you're going to finish here and it's the Dodgers.

894
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: It was, I mean looking back at it, and I

895
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 3: didn't really have this perspective going into it, but now

896
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: looking back at it after the first probably year, you know,

897
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 3: as I as I mentioned, like, I'm starting to like

898
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: go on that downward trajectory as as an athlete, I

899
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 3: recognized it. I wasn't I wasn't going to let it

900
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: slow me down, but I definitely recognize it. So I

901
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: wanted to figure out a way, too, Like how can

902
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 3: I be impactful on a daily basis even though I'm

903
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: not necessarily as good of a player as I was

904
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 3: five or six years prior and I and I took

905
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: a lot of pride in that because Dorodgris had some

906
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: veteran guys but also some young guys with a lot

907
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 3: of talent. So I took a lot of pride and

908
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: trying to dig in with some of these younger guys

909
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: and help them, help them maneuver, whether that was you know,

910
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 3: on the field or off the field. And to Andrew's credit,

911
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: he said, listen, we we brought you over here for

912
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 3: a reason. Obviously we still feel like you're a good player,

913
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: but also your your I think your leadership skills can

914
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: be invaluable to us and some of our younger guys,

915
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: So do whatever you think is necessary, which gave me

916
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: kind of free reign on on chatting with these guys

917
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: and you know, trying to help point them in the

918
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: in the right direction. And I feel like I did it, okay.

919
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Job.

920
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 2: You pull up to daughter stadium for the first time

921
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: as a Dodger. What's it feel like driving to the game,

922
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 2: You get to the parking lot, what's that first time?

923
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: What did that feel like for you?

924
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: It was exciting, it was I met them on the road,

925
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 3: so that that anxious energy. It had already kind of

926
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: subsided at the time. But yeah, I mean I went

927
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: to so many Dodger games as a kid. We obviously

928
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: played against the Dodgers quite a bit, but then going

929
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: instead of going to the road clubhouse or the home

930
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: clubhouse and walking in there for the first time, Yeah, surreal,

931
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: I'm seeing guys that you admired Clayton Kershaw for number

932
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 3: one in my books. Yeah, it was a surreal, surreal feeling.

933
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: But you got to eliminate that quickly because you're there

934
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 3: to work figure how to win.

935
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: Forgive me, I'm sure you've been asked about this a

936
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: ton of times. But again, knowing your style and seeing

937
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 2: you play for a long time, you're an old school player.

938
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: You took some heat for the slide into Tahata. What's

939
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: going on during that process?

940
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: The slide?

941
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 2: You know, if you're a fan, you appreciate it. If

942
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: you're not, it's this right, Well, what happened with that?

943
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, going back to our conversations earlier about

944
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 3: you know, how did you learn how to play baseball?

945
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: What is who were your role models as you were

946
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: growing up? I mean you, I mean I watched you

947
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: play quite a bit and you were extremely physical. Yeah,

948
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 3: and that's that was your mo and that was your personality,

949
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 3: and that's what allowed you to have the success you had.

950
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 3: And the same with me. The guys that I grew

951
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: up emulating and watching and admiring, those guys were hard

952
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: nose players that that broke up double plays, that that

953
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 3: that ran over the catcher, that just played extremely hard.

954
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 3: So that's what I knew. And then getting to getting

955
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 3: to Philadelphia the coaching staff with Larry Boa and a

956
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: few of the other guys, extremely similar situation. These guys

957
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: played in that area and they were they were hungry

958
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: and feisty and angry, and that was right up my

959
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: that was right up my alley. So in that that moment,

960
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: I was doing what I did a bazillion other times,

961
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 3: is trying to break up, break up the double play.

962
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 3: And as as you know, as an athlete, like there's

963
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,479
Speaker 3: a lot of anticipation that goes on, you know when

964
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: when a certain play is happening. Sometimes you anticipate right,

965
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 3: sometimes you anticipate wrong. But I think the guys that

966
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: that do have that in anticipation mechanism have a lot

967
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: of success. So I didn't anticipate him doing what he did.

968
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 3: I anticipated him catching it, jumping like a majority of

969
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: short steps that done in the past, and trying to

970
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 3: get out of the way. And I was not anticipated

971
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 3: him spinning. So as I'm as I'm starting my slide,

972
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 3: thinking he's going to jump, he doesn't jump. And that's

973
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 3: that was like a moment like uh oh you can.

974
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to say but to see it

975
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: on video, but I definitely let up once I realized

976
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: he spun, because I was it was like it was

977
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: a big collision course at that bang bang too. Yeah,

978
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: I thought I was going to try to clip him,

979
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 3: clip his leg with my shoulder just to try to

980
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 3: get this throw off, and it didn't turn out that way.

981
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I felt I felt awful. I didn't have

982
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: any INTI intit, I did not have any ill will

983
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 3: towards him. I wanted to break up the double play

984
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 3: like I've broken up a bazillion times, Like it's been

985
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: broken up on me as the second basement a million times.

986
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was one of those unfortunate things that

987
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 3: I feel bad about looking back, knowing what I know now, Yeah,

988
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have slid that same way.

989
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: Soon after Singuard throws at you, Terry, Terry CRUs gets ejected.

990
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Talk to us as we watched this clip right here,

991
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: kind of about some of the unwritten rules in baseball.

992
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: He was heated. It's kinda crazy.

993
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, h.

994
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: That's the feeld. Was he the first he came in

995
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: to try to cool him down.

996
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the head, he's the head.

997
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 6: Haunch on the stats, the umpire Okay, yeah, yeah, Terry's hot, hot.

998
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: Shout out the fire man. He played played a solid.

999
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and yeah, and I don't blame Terry Collins. I mean,

1000
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 3: going back to what we were talking about earlier, like, yeah,

1001
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: it was it was how I look at it is,

1002
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: you hit one of our guys, We're going to hit

1003
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: one of your guys. We take your guy out. You're

1004
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 3: gonna take one of our guys out. And that was

1005
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: just how it was played back and now there's it's

1006
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: not quite quite the same way. So yeah, I mean

1007
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 3: I would have. There's been plenty of times where I've

1008
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: been taken out and our guys hit one of their

1009
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: guys or vice versa. It's just it was part of

1010
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 3: the game back then, and now that's not the case.

1011
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 3: And that's and that's fine, and that mean that particular

1012
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: moment he didn't hit me. I was anticipating them hitting

1013
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 3: me because that's what they what they should do, at

1014
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: least the way I've grew up and I was, and

1015
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: I was would have taken my base. I totally respected

1016
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 3: understand it. But he missed.

1017
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: That's what it is.

1018
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,919
Speaker 2: Dodger teammates Keika Hernandez tell me a little bit about him.

1019
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 2: I know you worked with them a little bit. Yeah, no,

1020
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've known from the outside.

1021
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 3: He's a good dude. So going back my I was

1022
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: the elder statesman on the Dodgers, KK was a young player,

1023
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: super super talented player, didn't really know how to go

1024
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: about it at that particular time. Obviously you could see

1025
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 3: the talent, but he was all he was kind of

1026
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 3: all over the place, and he was actually I don't

1027
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 3: know if this was advice from someone in his camp,

1028
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: but he essentially started just tailing me around, following me around,

1029
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 3: whether it was in the weight room, whether it was

1030
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 3: in the video room, and he was just trying to

1031
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 3: absorb as much as he could. And he's such a character,

1032
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: a ton of energy, a great guy for any clubhouse,

1033
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 3: and the fact that he's a super talented player that

1034
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: can play any position. He's even more valuable that way.

1035
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, good dude, great dude, someone that I'll forever

1036
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 3: be friends with. But now he's a young father, still

1037
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: having success still with the Dodgers, and they bring him

1038
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: around because of his intangibles which I mentioned.

1039
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, see how Puigue told a story about you know,

1040
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 2: how you mentored him, and it probably wasn't the easiest job.

1041
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 2: Talented down the field, you know, obviously did his thing

1042
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: all off the field a little bit, but what about him, Yeah,

1043
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: again another like freak talent. But it's hard for it's

1044
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: hard for me to kind of get on his same

1045
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: wavelength from his his upbringing. Right, he grew up in Cuba,

1046
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 2: he defected essentially to come to the United States, immediately

1047
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: got to the to the big leagues and had success, right,

1048
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: which doesn't always happen, And he was one of the

1049
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: you know, better players in all of.

1050
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: Baseball, just like that. But yeah, the way I looked

1051
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 3: at it is at least the way that I went

1052
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 3: about it was, I have I feel like I'm talented,

1053
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 3: but I need to continue to work and and try

1054
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: to figure out ways to improve on a daily basis.

1055
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: That's what That's what gave me the confidence. And Puigue

1056
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 3: again was so talented. He didn't need to do certain

1057
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 3: things that other guys were doing. So yeah, I've had

1058
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: plenty of conversations with him just to try to help him,

1059
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: be honest, to try to help him and get the

1060
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: most out of his natural ability.

1061
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: Matt Kemp had a really good Dodger run. What was

1062
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: he like playing with Matt?

1063
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: That was great. I remember being playing against them and

1064
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 3: that wasn't much fun. I remember specifically we had this

1065
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 3: lefty picture. We were in LA and we had early

1066
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: batting practice. He was out there shagging and he comes

1067
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 3: and talks to me about facing some of the good

1068
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: hitters on the Dodgers, and Matt Kemp was obviously one

1069
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: of them. And he was a lefty kind of threw

1070
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 3: hard but kind of an interesting slot. And I'd watch

1071
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 3: Matt admire Matt for for a long time, and I

1072
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: was just thinking, all right, you don't want to bring

1073
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 3: anything close to Matt because he can he can shoot

1074
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: you that way. So just use your natural, firm fastball

1075
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: that has pretty good run and sink. Just keep it,

1076
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: just keep it down and away and you're you're fine.

1077
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 3: So game starts. He comes in the seventh inning, Matt

1078
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 3: Kemp's coming up up great, all right, dude, you're going

1079
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: to just throw down away? Hey, yep, first pitch down

1080
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 3: and away, strike one net picked down away, opposite field

1081
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 3: home run. I'm like, oh, my God, of all things,

1082
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 3: you got to be kidding me. So yeah, I got

1083
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 3: that scouting report wrong. But I mean, Matt camp is.

1084
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: So so good. Clayton Kershaw one of the greats.

1085
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 3: One of the greats, there's no doubt about it. Obviously

1086
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: admired him as an opposing player, faced him. I think

1087
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: we I faced him in his first start or early

1088
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: early in his career, and he evolved quite a bit

1089
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: from that first day till what he what he eventually

1090
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 3: turned into. So I distinctly remember going to Dodger Stateum,

1091
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: this wasn't the first start, but this is maybe a

1092
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 3: couple of years later and walking they've changed it now,

1093
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: but back in the day, you essentially had to walk

1094
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 3: right next to the home clubhouse to get to their

1095
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: batting cage and there and you essentially walked by their

1096
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: clubhouse next to their weight room, which was awkward. Into

1097
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 3: this shitty little bating cage out in left field, and

1098
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: I saw him there. He was in a mirror and

1099
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 3: he was he was just doing his wind up over

1100
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: and over and over again. I went out down he

1101
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 3: was doing it. Spent twenty twenty five minutes in the cage.

1102
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: Come back, he's still doing it. And that's when the

1103
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: light bulb went off with me. I'm like, oh my god,

1104
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 3: this guy's This guy's no joke. He's taking it to

1105
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: another level of the intensity that he's putting in and

1106
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 3: this success man, the confidence, the work ethic. Then I

1107
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 3: when I came over, I got to see it firsthand,

1108
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 3: and there's no joke. Like he's there early, he's grinding

1109
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: in the in the weight room. He's very meticulous on

1110
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 3: his schedule. You know, between stars, you know exactly where

1111
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: he's going to be at certain times. You knew to

1112
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 3: kind of just stay away from him the days he

1113
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 3: was starting. I remember one day early on, I was

1114
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: went to the training room to do something. I sit

1115
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: on this table and one of the trainers comes up

1116
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: and he goes, hey, just so you know, you need

1117
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: to get off this table in about three minutes, because

1118
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,399
Speaker 3: that's when Clayton's coming in to do whatever he does

1119
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: before the game, so imally got up got out of

1120
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 3: his way. But that was I mean, I had a

1121
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 3: lot of respect for it, for how he went about it,

1122
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: and there's a reason he's been so he had so

1123
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 3: much success in his career.

1124
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 2: You, Jimmy, and Ryan are all knocking on that Hall

1125
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: of Fame door. What would it mean to you to

1126
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 2: get that call?

1127
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just to be part of the conversation

1128
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 3: is humbling and amazing. You don't as a as a

1129
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 3: young kid growing up, your goal is to like, at

1130
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 3: least my goals was like, I want to try to

1131
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: figure out a way to play in college and then

1132
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: maybe hopefully try to get to the big leagues. And

1133
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 3: then you get to the big LEAs you go shoot,

1134
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 3: maybe I would love to make an All Star team.

1135
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 3: And never once was I ever thought about about the

1136
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. Now, obviously I have no choice but

1137
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: to think about it, and you just look back at

1138
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 3: the history of the players that are in the in

1139
00:54:54,880 --> 00:55:01,439
Speaker 3: the coolest, most amazing club in all the base So yeah,

1140
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: obviously it would be a huge honor. I felt like

1141
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: I went about it, went about the way I went

1142
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,479
Speaker 3: about baseball was the right way. I got the most

1143
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 3: out of my ability. I don't think I was necessarily

1144
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: the most talented player on the field, but I think

1145
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 3: I was the most prepared than anyone else.

1146
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 2: Before we get out of here twenty seventeen, controversial World

1147
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 2: Series versus the Astros.

1148
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: You guys losing seven.

1149
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: Soon after that, it comes out, you know, the whole

1150
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 2: signed situation. We asked to see this similar question because

1151
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: they got beat as well. Has your feeling changed from

1152
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: when that happened in seventeen to.

1153
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 3: Now a little bit? I mean the way I look

1154
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: at it, I mean, obviously they have the World Series trophy,

1155
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 3: but I look at us as being the best team

1156
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 3: in baseball that year. Regardless of that outcome of that

1157
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 3: World Series. We battled them, extremely tired, We lost in

1158
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 3: seven games. There was a lot of back for the

1159
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: great world here to watch as a fan, a lot

1160
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 3: of offenses. You can you can you can imagine. Yeah,

1161
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 3: it stings a little bit. I mean, I've put it

1162
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 3: behind me with the thought process that makes me feel

1163
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: better that we're we were the best team that that year.

1164
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: To agree you got any questions?

1165
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: Is the biggest Dodger fan of the world where you

1166
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: want to.

1167
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 3: Ask my question, what are you seeing? But yeah, show,

1168
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to even know where to begin

1169
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 3: with with a guy like him. First off, I mean,

1170
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 3: you look from an offensive perspective, he's you know, top

1171
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 3: two three, you know, offensive threats, and all of baseball,

1172
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 3: if not the most offensive threat, teams are fear him.

1173
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 3: He has the ability to hit any pitch really over

1174
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: the fence. The fact that he's one of the fastest

1175
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 3: players on the field as well is remarkable. So that's

1176
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 3: one aspect. There's a hitter of shoe, you know, top

1177
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 3: top three hitter in all of baseball. And then you

1178
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: go away to say he can also pitch. He's a

1179
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 3: number one starter on you know, the best team in baseball,

1180
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 3: and he's a top I don't know what three to

1181
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 3: five pitcher in baseball. We've never seen it before. Maybe

1182
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 3: maybe Babe Ruth, but hard hard to say. I don't

1183
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 3: think we'll ever see it again. To be honest with you,

1184
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: it takes so much time and effort to be good

1185
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 3: at one thing, and for him to be good at

1186
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: two things at the highest level is just unimanageable. And also,

1187
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 3: I mean, to throw on the top that he's the

1188
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: most famous star in Japan, right, and we know how

1189
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: fanatical the fans are, especially in Japan. He doesn't have

1190
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 3: any downtime. I mean, he's he he's always has to

1191
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: be on, always has to be on, and he's and

1192
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: he's got so much to do. Now that I'm around

1193
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 3: a little bit, you just see how much he does

1194
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: on a daily basis. Sometimes he's in the cage and

1195
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: then he's going to do his his pitching work. Like

1196
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 3: there's a lot of a lot of moving parts in

1197
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: his world and he's able to figure him all out

1198
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 3: and have immense success. So I don't I don't see

1199
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: another player being like him ever.

1200
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: From a business standpoint, the impact of these Japanese players

1201
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: in the influx of it, what do your thoughts just

1202
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: as a as a baseball mind.

1203
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt there's some pretty talented players coming

1204
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 3: out out of Japan, and that's a obviously. We were

1205
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: actually just in Tokyo a few weeks ago, is it

1206
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: on a family trip? Which was you spending time over?

1207
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: It's great, super clean, so fun, just very interesting and

1208
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: I would definitely recommend it, but you know, it's a

1209
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 3: it's a big country, big baseball culture that's been going

1210
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: on for a long time. They obviously have their professional teams,

1211
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 3: but it's a huge audience, right, It's a massive audience

1212
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 3: that follows shohy Otani and the other guys. But show

1213
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 3: he's like up here and he's on when you go there,

1214
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 3: you see he's on every billboard, he's on every bus,

1215
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 3: he's on it. You know, his marketing teams doing a

1216
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 3: pretty pretty good job. He's everywhere over there. He's the

1217
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 3: biggest star by far over there. I kind of I

1218
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 3: would say he's like Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson at

1219
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 3: their highest. He's wrapped up into one dude, which is

1220
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 3: pretty remarkable. So with that said, yeah, it's creating a

1221
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 3: lot more opportunities, and obviously him more on a Dodger

1222
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 3: uniform is helpful for the Dodgers our time. And when

1223
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: we were in Europe in London, I mean, the whole

1224
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 3: goal there was just kind of slowly expand the sport

1225
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 3: in other areas. Obviously Japan already huge baseball culture, Latin

1226
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: America huge baseball culture, but once you kind of go

1227
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 3: out side of the Atlantic, not so much so just

1228
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 3: trying to get another footprint over there. NFL has been

1229
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 3: doing it for a long time and they've had some

1230
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 3: success that NBA, as you know, are really starting to

1231
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 3: spend spend some money over there, and in Major League

1232
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 3: Baseball wants to do the same.

1233
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 2: You said your greatest accomplishment was the World Series ring.

1234
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 2: Outside of that, when you look back on your journey

1235
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: and your run in the professionals, the what you did,

1236
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 2: what you accomplished, what you've been through, what's one thing

1237
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 2: that stands out?

1238
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 3: I mean, I was on so many great teams and

1239
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 3: very fortunate to be on the teams that I was

1240
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 3: on in those particular years. From on a personal level,

1241
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 3: I'm I've had had success. It's also teams personal level,

1242
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: I think I'm most proud of the way that I

1243
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 3: went about it. I honestly, I can look in them.

1244
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: I could look in the mirror every night, and I

1245
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: can still look in the mirror right now and say

1246
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: I left it all on the field. Did there was

1247
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 3: no ounce of energy, mental awareness that I did not

1248
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: zood on a daily basis.

1249
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 2: So I'm proud of that quick hitters first team coming

1250
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: to mind. Let us know favorite ballpark.

1251
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: Taking away Citizen Big Park in Philly and Dodger Stadium,

1252
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 3: playing in Chicago, playing Wrigley Fields.

1253
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: Funny classic.

1254
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: Worst ballpark, They're all pretty good these days. Worst ballpark

1255
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: for my time would have been probably playing in Miami

1256
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 3: before the new stadium. What was it? It was Joe Robbie,

1257
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: Joe Robbie. Right, Yeah, you're in Miami. It's one hundred

1258
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 3: and fifty degrees, humid, games smoking, no fans. That was rough.

1259
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: Smartest pitcher you ever faced.

1260
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 3: The smartest pitcher of Krushaw was pretty smart.

1261
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: Nastiest single pitch you saw.

1262
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 3: I did enjoy facing a knuckleball pitcher. I don't know

1263
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: if that was the nastiest. I would say a good

1264
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 3: knuckleball is hard to hit.

1265
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: Funniest teammate, I'd say Jason Worth, Okay, I like the

1266
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 2: tightest clubhouse you were ever a part of?

1267
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: What year?

1268
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: Those years? In those years in Philly from two thousand

1269
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 3: and six to two thousand and nine, we had it.

1270
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 2: We had bench clearing brawl. Who you bringing with? You

1271
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: get three people either played with or against.

1272
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 3: All right, bench clearing brawl. I'm going with. I'm going

1273
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 3: with some of my Philly guys. I'm going Worth again.

1274
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: I'm going with Victorino because he's scrappy and little and

1275
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 3: can hide and then and get you. Jimmy's two pretty No,

1276
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 3: Howie would be a good one to have. And there's

1277
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 3: there's so many guys. There's some nut jobs I played

1278
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 3: with too, that would be that would be good for

1279
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 3: a bench.

1280
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: Clearing bro clubhouse playlist. Who was on it?

1281
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 3: Jimmy took over for a while, and then at a

1282
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 3: certain point it was it was at the discretion of

1283
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 3: the starting pitcher.

1284
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 4: Oh whatever, whatever he arrived to day, we were we

1285
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 4: were all good with love it.

1286
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 2: One guest you'd like to see on All the Smoke Baseball.

1287
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 3: I think you should have kersh on here be a

1288
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:00,120
Speaker 3: good one.

1289
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: Get that call for us.

1290
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

1291
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 2: Chase, Congratulations on a hell of a run man, all

1292
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 2: the success, Congratulations on the post career success, and I

1293
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: wish you nothing but the best, man.

1294
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: Thanks for spending some time with us.

1295
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 3: Pleasure. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap, Chase Utley, see you guys next week.