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Speaker 4: Man, special guests in here, a legend rep in h
Speaker 4: Town zero.
Speaker 1: What's happening, Man, what's hapening.
Speaker 4: It's good to see you.
Speaker 3: Man. It's funny because you know, I'm real tight with
Speaker 3: one of my brothers was Mexicano team Okay, and he
Speaker 3: loves you man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, shut out Mexican.
Speaker 4: He says you're his Tupac.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Indeed he did say that y'all got the record together,
Speaker 3: so I know that was a big deal for him
Speaker 3: to make happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a couple of records together now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Shout out to him, bro, shout out to for you man,
Speaker 3: Like you've been kind of a part of every I
Speaker 3: mean not every era of Houston music obviously, but the
Speaker 3: last twenty years to see kind of like where Texas
Speaker 3: music as a whole is, because now Dallas is getting
Speaker 3: in on the action. How do you feel about like
Speaker 3: kind of what's going on with h Town in the
Speaker 3: movement is happening with with the with the new generation
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 2: I mean it's good, you know, uh, the same thing
Speaker 2: it was for us and you know one those before us.
Speaker 2: So I mean to see the to see the growth,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the rotation like it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2: It's way different, right, but I think it's supposed to
Speaker 2: be so I mean know thatsoluted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's so much talent, Like I just
Speaker 3: he's just thinking of like pay so pay so obviously
Speaker 3: shout to Sauce Walker, shout out to Ot, shout out
Speaker 3: to uh D babies.
Speaker 4: Are you she got it? Man, y'all got y'all got
Speaker 4: to wait right now and oh geez is still doing
Speaker 4: their fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Hey, we got to eat too.
Speaker 4: You gotta eat too, man.
Speaker 3: I always tell people if you ever go to Texas
Speaker 3: and you've never been to like Houston before, and you
Speaker 3: go to the club, I don't think people understand the
Speaker 3: reaction that most city down gets. Oh yeah, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like the dreams and nightmares of Houston.
Speaker 2: It is it is it is it? That's she crazy
Speaker 2: because I didn't think it was gonna be that one.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I knew it was gonna
Speaker 2: be but like I was like that one. But then
Speaker 2: you know when I listened to it, like you know,
Speaker 2: my should to do a move a little bit, so
Speaker 2: you know it's I understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, it's it's crazy because it's like one
Speaker 3: of them ones that like, you know, you if if
Speaker 3: you grow up in La you might not have ever
Speaker 3: heard it, but then if.
Speaker 4: You if you go hop on a plane to go
Speaker 4: to Houston.
Speaker 1: It's fucking that's how you're gonna hear it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's insane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that ship is Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah
Speaker 1: it's crazy.
Speaker 3: You always will hear people say that you are one
Speaker 3: of the most underrated MC's just period. Do you feel
Speaker 3: like you are underrated? And when we talk about the
Speaker 3: goats and if so, like, why do you think that?
Speaker 2: I mean, probably because I'm not as accessible as you know,
Speaker 2: all these other people are. Obviously, you know, I'm still independent,
Speaker 2: so you know, I do what I do and uh,
Speaker 2: it don't really go I guess beyond that, right, So
Speaker 2: it's kind of like I'm you know, it's a ceiling there,
Speaker 2: so but I mean, I don't know. Having access to
Speaker 2: get out of that ceiling is something that you know,
Speaker 2: we experiment with because definitely needs to happen. But to
Speaker 2: say underrated, I mean, you know, I mean it's a
Speaker 2: yes or no thing. I mean, I feel wall may
Speaker 2: be coming from. But then at the same time, I
Speaker 2: know the people that they considered to be goats, they
Speaker 2: know who I am, so uh, I'm not really tripping
Speaker 2: on it too hard.
Speaker 4: Facts.
Speaker 3: And also I feel like one of the the guys
Speaker 3: who used melodies in a way that like not a
Speaker 3: lot of artists really like.
Speaker 4: When you were doing the melodic shit, it wasn't like
Speaker 4: the thing to do. It's the post.
Speaker 3: Like fast forward to today, everyone's everyone's got crazy melodies
Speaker 3: and everyone's kind of doing their singing thing.
Speaker 4: But you were, I feel like you've been doing that
Speaker 4: for fucking ever.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I had to. It was a
Speaker 2: money thing, yeah, because when I first started off, I
Speaker 2: couldn't afford to pay nobody to sing that shit for me.
Speaker 4: So you're like, yo, I ain't got nobody to do
Speaker 4: the hooks.
Speaker 1: I learned how.
Speaker 2: To do it myself. Yeah, wow, I learned. I stood
Speaker 2: in the mirror. Somebody was charging me five hundred dollars
Speaker 2: or something, and I was like, I ain't got no
Speaker 2: motherfucking five hundred dollars. So I stood in the mirror
Speaker 2: like I was. I slung the part until it sounded.
Speaker 2: I then I just kept doing that shit. After that,
Speaker 2: I just kept on and kept on and kept on it.
Speaker 2: I mean shit, it just became second nature.
Speaker 4: That's fire, and it worked out.
Speaker 1: It did it did. It pays us plays a lot
Speaker 1: of bills.
Speaker 4: It does.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 4: Indeed, man, can you tell me what it was like?
Speaker 3: Because you came up with a screwed up click, and
Speaker 3: I feel like I kind of got hipped to that.
Speaker 3: Obviously I knew about like stuff being chopped and screwed,
Speaker 3: but in terms of like consuming that kind of music,
Speaker 3: I kind of got into listening to the screwed and
Speaker 3: chop shit around the time like the first Mike Jones
Speaker 3: album came out, and like Michael Watson was doing it,
Speaker 3: but obviously screwed up click because the originators, did you
Speaker 3: understand the like gravity of being a part of Like
Speaker 3: did y'all feel like you were a part of some
Speaker 3: historical shit at the time, or we are just doing
Speaker 3: your thing?
Speaker 2: And uh, he was kind of kind of both, like
Speaker 2: in the beginning and one that way. Obviously it was
Speaker 2: the ending by the time I got there, But like
Speaker 2: I had been watching what this music was doing. You know,
Speaker 2: you come to Houston and you playing your record. If
Speaker 2: they like it, first thing they gonna do is slow
Speaker 2: that shit down. And they weren't just gonna slow it down.
Speaker 2: They had to be slowed down with the correct type
Speaker 2: of double beating, and like screw had to do that shit.
Speaker 2: So in the first beginning, it was just like, oh man,
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, it's some cool shit for Houston. Until
Speaker 2: the people from Canada and you know, coming from Amsterdam
Speaker 2: though we just got off the plane. We want to
Speaker 2: get a return of the red. We want to get
Speaker 2: a you know, worldwide south side and all.
Speaker 1: This here, like you want to get all that.
Speaker 2: So they coming from other countries to come get these
Speaker 2: back then, which was just cossette tapes, but.
Speaker 3: They were like bootlegs, right, so like they'd go for
Speaker 3: overseas people would pay a lot of good money for
Speaker 3: that shit.
Speaker 2: But they was coming over here paying regular price. The
Speaker 2: screw was selling it out his house. This out the house,
Speaker 2: like got his daddy house crazy. And then you get
Speaker 2: the store. So now it's like it don't matter where
Speaker 2: you come from. They flying all the way in because
Speaker 2: they oh no, his store screwed up click records of
Speaker 2: the tapes, screwed up records of tapes. At the time,
Speaker 2: it was located on Coling Boulevard, So they just get
Speaker 2: off the plane and come on Culling Boulevard, go in there,
Speaker 2: take pictures with everything get loaded up and go back
Speaker 2: to the you know, they respect the countries. So I
Speaker 2: think right before we passed, that's when we was like, nah, man,
Speaker 2: this shit getting iconic.
Speaker 1: It's different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like as an artist had to like
Speaker 3: you kind of had to feel like you had some
Speaker 3: shit going. I'm assuming back then, if you're a Houston
Speaker 3: artist and he screwed the ship up, that mean it
Speaker 3: has some motion.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, because I mean, how screw would do
Speaker 2: it if we go in there to go do a tape,
Speaker 2: like if we're doing if we're doing a tape with you,
Speaker 2: it's probably just the all right, cool I want I
Speaker 2: want to I won't bout out on here. I want
Speaker 2: friends on here. So all he doing it taking the
Speaker 2: songs that you give him on a list and he's
Speaker 2: just mixing them, and you know you he give you
Speaker 2: a microphone. So here's your chance to make a cool
Speaker 2: little old tape for you and your people, or here's
Speaker 2: your chance to do some myconic and be known as
Speaker 2: whoever you want to be, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So that that's kind of like how it was with me.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm finna go on here, and I'm finna fuck
Speaker 2: some ship up. Yeah, that was mine. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna start my ship here. I was already on a
Speaker 2: little record label. But that shit ain't start popping til
Speaker 2: Screw put his hands on it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, like, uh, you are somebody
Speaker 3: who's obviously you know you've talked about your relationship with
Speaker 3: Drake before. We always think about Houston as kind of
Speaker 3: being a place where that kind of popped off, like
Speaker 3: sipping you know what I'm saying. It's obviously it's a
Speaker 3: big part of the culture. Yeah, tooking over hip hop
Speaker 3: still to this day.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know it's still for you though, Like,
Speaker 4: was it ever? Do you still do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Are you sober?
Speaker 1: I almost died from that shit that I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: I know you went through some health shit with that, Like,
Speaker 3: can you kind of speak to the because we always
Speaker 3: see it get glorified right right, right right, And everybody's
Speaker 3: capable of recreationally using any drug, but it's obviously an
Speaker 3: addictive thing. It's opiate, So can you kind of just
Speaker 3: shine a light on just what you went through and
Speaker 3: in some of the dark side.
Speaker 2: Of some man, I'm gonna say the the worst thing
Speaker 2: for me is that I ain't gonna say I discovered
Speaker 2: the habit right when the money started coming, but right
Speaker 2: when the money started coming up. Until that point, the
Speaker 2: only thing I did with my money is that so
Speaker 2: I do a show. You know how much it was,
Speaker 2: I'm guaranteed you just being fifty percent of that shit
Speaker 2: don't serve. So right when that shit was getting bad, bad, bad,
Speaker 2: I was spending like twenty eight five a month just
Speaker 2: on that shit.
Speaker 1: Month.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not drinking that shit by
Speaker 2: myself though, right, like you know, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: for my people, for some sucker ass niggas, for some
Speaker 2: fake motherfuckers, and for you know, but all I knew,
Speaker 2: especially where you from. It's like she who who got
Speaker 2: some bread around this motherfucker? Oh he got the gallons,
Speaker 2: he got the paints, so she you know, you buying
Speaker 2: four to six ounces of this shit every day you
Speaker 2: get you some money.
Speaker 1: Now you getting two and three paints of this shit.
Speaker 2: You ain't drinking all that shit at one time, But
Speaker 2: I mean, still though, you overloading, So me, I want
Speaker 2: to buy enough of this shit. I ain't got to
Speaker 2: be in your face every motherfucking day, Like how much
Speaker 2: you got? Okay, I got nine gallons? All right, give
Speaker 2: me that all, give me all that, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: taking the nine gallons with me. So nine gallons. I
Speaker 2: ain't supposed to your ass for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: In fact, I'm gonna see you in Bouy sixty days though.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So, I mean I got a potty in here right now.
Speaker 2: He was drinking some of that shit with me, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But I mean, nah, I fucked
Speaker 2: around and locked up. I fucked around and stroked out
Speaker 2: on that shit.
Speaker 3: Was that while you were on her? While you were
Speaker 3: trying to get off it? Both because I know you
Speaker 3: go through withdrawals, right.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, yeah, But I mean I had drunk
Speaker 2: so much of that shit in my life. When I
Speaker 2: stopped drinking, it ain't ever really feel like it. I
Speaker 2: was still dope to fuck up.
Speaker 4: It was just in here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And when I asked, I asked, I guess said high
Speaker 2: power to help me with my habit.
Speaker 1: I caught a case.
Speaker 2: I was pulling up to a video shoot and the
Speaker 2: cops came out of nowhere, and you know, down there's
Speaker 2: the state jail feeling it, so they take me to
Speaker 2: jail for the syruf I missed the video. These dumb
Speaker 2: motherfuckers leave the syrup in my car, so I get
Speaker 2: out of jail heavy and Mike d take me to
Speaker 2: my car. I'm out on bond for some shit that's
Speaker 2: in my back seat, so they ain't even got no evidence.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, damn, mis fucked up. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: to court and she's gonna get dismissed. Ain't got to drink.
Speaker 2: I drunk that shit and then I went to go
Speaker 2: mess with somebody at a studio and then before I
Speaker 2: knew it, my left side wouldn't move, and then I
Speaker 2: had a siege. And when I came out of that shit, man, look,
Speaker 2: you can't pay me to damn not putting a pancake
Speaker 2: syrup on food.
Speaker 1: I ain't fucking with those syrup.
Speaker 4: So that was like the wake up call.
Speaker 2: July fifteen, twenty fifteen. Woke the fuck up, woke the
Speaker 2: fuck up, and I ain't fuck with that shit.
Speaker 4: Since that's amazing, congrats man, she.
Speaker 1: I don't even need congrats with those shit like that.
Speaker 3: Hey maybe, but that's I mean, you know, they always
Speaker 3: say people got to hit rock Bottom.
Speaker 1: Yeah you damn that dying.
Speaker 2: Yeah shit, that ain't congrats. That's bitch ass motherfucker. You
Speaker 2: should have been took this shit serious. And I'm like
Speaker 2: you right with me, Just don't take me out.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Listen, I think, like like you said, like you you
Speaker 3: the money came while the habit was happening, and there
Speaker 3: was a mixture of those two things before.
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing.
Speaker 3: If it's being glorified in the music, you don't look
Speaker 3: at it like I'm a drug addict.
Speaker 4: You just look at it like this is just a
Speaker 4: part of what I do.
Speaker 3: But you know, because you I feel like, do you
Speaker 3: feel like the addiction got in the way of your
Speaker 3: progression as like your career?
Speaker 1: Nah, I mean that's the fucked up part.
Speaker 2: Like that ship made the ship progress more because a
Speaker 2: lot of people like dumb shit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I mean in terms of just like I got
Speaker 2: some cold songs like Can't Leave You Drink Alone.
Speaker 4: That's one of your biggest songs, right.
Speaker 2: And it's I mean yeah, but I mean it could
Speaker 2: be it could be viewed as one of the biggest
Speaker 2: intros to a fucked up life also because I'm doing
Speaker 2: this shit. I mean, like it's cool to these people.
Speaker 2: It's cool to me when I did it, but damn
Speaker 2: they're dying. Just shit wasn't cool, right, So that is
Speaker 2: like I done left drink alone. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like remix, I ain't fucking with no no rubble toutsing
Speaker 2: or nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you get a copy like I'm good. Just
Speaker 3: give me a lotenger, man, me a fucking give me
Speaker 3: when the honey honey things, a little cough drop of
Speaker 3: cherry when it mint eight.
Speaker 4: Now it's interesting because for you man, now that like,
Speaker 4: did you notice clarity?
Speaker 3: Did you notice like you having your shit together more
Speaker 3: professionally after you got sober? Nah?
Speaker 1: I can't say I did. Nah.
Speaker 2: I mean the main thing I recognized about the difference
Speaker 2: in my music now is how my voice sounds like
Speaker 2: this type of I mean, it's like waking up in
Speaker 2: the morning and you say your first words, this is
Speaker 2: the deepest and the most curious your voice is gonna
Speaker 2: be through the day.
Speaker 4: Did you answer that phone people like yo, you just
Speaker 4: wake up? Yeah, because you know it sound.
Speaker 1: Like I did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But around five thirty six, o'clock your ship up
Speaker 2: a little bit like this because you gonna go out
Speaker 2: your good ship out your motherfucker voice. Yeah, that sir,
Speaker 2: mixed with that weed. It keep your voice sounded like
Speaker 2: you just woke up our day. Yeah, that's why I
Speaker 2: was able to sing, uh, I can't leave drink alone
Speaker 2: like that and some of the mother songs like you
Speaker 2: know it kind of it kind of really helped with
Speaker 2: how I wanted to sound. And I still sound like that,
Speaker 2: but I guess that it's a lot of the heft
Speaker 2: ain't there No more like I don't sound fat as fuck,
Speaker 2: no more like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That should have you bloated too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's why I was signing.
Speaker 3: Always say it like man that I remember school Boy
Speaker 3: Q was talking about it because school Boy Q went
Speaker 3: through his his addition with Lean and he was like, man,
Speaker 3: I got off that ship.
Speaker 4: I got rid of this gut because that's that that
Speaker 4: lean guts a real fucking thing.
Speaker 3: It is because you also drink helisoda, and that's what
Speaker 3: the people don't even realize so much soda.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's where the weight coming from. That's where
Speaker 1: the weight coming from.
Speaker 4: Because how many two leaders a.
Speaker 2: Man say at the end, at the end of my ship,
Speaker 2: it wasn't even no more two leaders of soda. I
Speaker 2: was so I was so into it, motherfucker. You just
Speaker 2: get a get get a paint and just go to
Speaker 2: the go to the juice ISyE, and just go get
Speaker 2: a gallon water and just poll the paint in the
Speaker 2: gallon water and just put that bitch in the freezer.
Speaker 2: Wipe right when it's slush up like sonic ice. Take
Speaker 2: that motherfucker out, no cup, Just ride out there and
Speaker 2: just just to look like, yeah, but a gallon note
Speaker 2: then be riding this motherfucker on interviews. I look at
Speaker 2: my old interviews, motherfucker be like, man, that nigga zero
Speaker 2: be stuttering like a motherfucker. No he don't. He on
Speaker 2: his syrud I rolled up with uh yeah, uh. I
Speaker 2: go to look at that ship. And now I'm like,
Speaker 2: I was about to die right here. I was about
Speaker 2: to die right there, like yeah, and you look at
Speaker 2: my ship now, motherfucker be like so he so he
Speaker 2: knows words, right, Yeah, you can talk like a motherfucker.
Speaker 4: That's one thing that innerne can't help you with.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 3: You could go back and look at this and be like,
Speaker 3: I never want to be that guy. Yeah that nah,
Speaker 3: that's some real ship. They say, they call you the
Speaker 3: real N words. Luther van Dross and the new album
Speaker 3: just explain everybody the title of the new albums as wrote.
Speaker 1: The Van Dross. Yeah, uh call me Rother.
Speaker 2: That's uh the title of the new the new album
Speaker 2: coming out of December thirteenth. And uh you know that Rotha.
Speaker 2: You know it's a saluta to Luther because you know,
Speaker 2: as you said, I do be doing my being melodic thing. Sure,
Speaker 2: so you know, uh, I'm just on there. You know,
Speaker 2: called me wrote it just means like you know this
Speaker 2: about me now? You know that about me now, and
Speaker 2: you know, twenty five, twenty six years later, should know
Speaker 2: I'm I'm solidified when it comes to making his music shit.
Speaker 2: So I don't even want to just be known as
Speaker 2: nothing else is just man wroth that called me, wrote
Speaker 2: that that she means, call me everything that's brilliant as
Speaker 2: a motherfucker, called me anything that's creative as a motherfucker.
Speaker 2: All that she means just called me wrothor to me.
Speaker 2: So I'm giving you a I'm giving you a project
Speaker 2: that you can hopefully agree with with the title. So
Speaker 2: when you listen to it and be like his body
Speaker 2: at work, man, that shit was really wrote the like.
Speaker 3: And you got Selo on the album, Helos on the
Speaker 3: new record, so speaking of it, just revolutionary voices. That
Speaker 3: motherfucker right there. Yeah, yeah, shout out to see who
Speaker 3: else is on the album.
Speaker 2: I got my boy Cook Covert. I got my boy
Speaker 2: Cook Covert. Who's who was in the building right now
Speaker 2: with me?
Speaker 4: I see him?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know he don't pay back.
Speaker 2: I got a DJ x so on there on you know,
Speaker 2: he on the Stone that he also produced on and
Speaker 2: uh ain't slimmed up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, slim Thug on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to slim Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it. I kept it, uh, I trim
Speaker 2: the fat. You know, I always be on the project
Speaker 2: at least I'm gonna say seventy five percent me. But
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm the only ones I got this time.
Speaker 4: You're like, how many albums are altogether?
Speaker 1: Are you in? Right now? Man? I lost count.
Speaker 3: I said about y'all Texas boys from a certain generation.
Speaker 3: Y'all got motherfucking catalog for real. Yeah, that catalog though,
Speaker 3: pay like like and you've been independent like, I mean,
Speaker 3: I know you're on rap a lot, but like independent
Speaker 3: for most of your career, right right, right, which is crazy.
Speaker 3: So you own the catalog so for a lot of
Speaker 3: this music, Like how important do you think it is?
Speaker 3: Because I think that's one thing about Houston we always
Speaker 3: I think we always associate Houston with like getting it
Speaker 3: out the trump you know, obviously for you, how important
Speaker 3: is it to in twenty twenty four, Like do you
Speaker 3: feel like I feel like the industry's catching up to
Speaker 3: what y'all been doing because a lot of artists would
Speaker 3: rather be independent now as to where back in the
Speaker 3: day you were independent.
Speaker 4: Because you just kind of had to be right right right.
Speaker 3: Like, how do you feel like in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: like the business models have changed for you in terms
Speaker 3: of being an independent artist.
Speaker 2: Like, well, I mean it changed for me because I've
Speaker 2: been doing the same thing the whole time. It was
Speaker 2: just like you said, I did it through rap a
Speaker 2: lout for a little while. But uh, I don't know,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like the importance of it being in Houston.
Speaker 2: You know, we big enough to uh create platinum artists
Speaker 2: on every street in that motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, that's why coming out the trunk, as you say,
Speaker 2: it's so important down there, because in these spaces that
Speaker 2: you're gonna pop your trunk in, it's so many motherfucking people.
Speaker 2: So when you put out some shit, you don't even
Speaker 2: need to go to Beaumont to make good. You can
Speaker 2: stay within the confounds of Houston, Texas. You ain't gotta
Speaker 2: you ain't even got to reach Austin.
Speaker 4: And you're gonna do you know, you're gonna do you
Speaker 4: have a career, Yeah, you.
Speaker 1: Can have it. Yeah, you can have a dope career.
Speaker 2: So, and the reason we have them catalogs is because
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers keep on paying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you wouldn't be doing it if it wouldn't make
Speaker 4: it sense.
Speaker 1: You feel me.
Speaker 2: And every time you put out something new, all your
Speaker 2: shit spike up. You just gotta be going harder than
Speaker 2: you did on your last one.
Speaker 4: I would say it's like compounding interests, Like every time
Speaker 4: you drop.
Speaker 3: Everything else goes up with it, exactly because it just
Speaker 3: brings people to your exactly, to your ship.
Speaker 1: So exactly.
Speaker 4: No, that's that's some real ship man.
Speaker 3: Somebody who obviously has a lot of has given a
Speaker 3: lot of flowers and have been influenced a lot by Houston
Speaker 3: is Drake concluding, you know, Drake, you're obviously influence.
Speaker 4: He's paid homage to you.
Speaker 3: I feel like, uh, you know, it's easy to kind
Speaker 3: of shoot on Drake right now if you're like hip
Speaker 3: hop media, but Drake showing you love and and and
Speaker 3: and and kind of like giving you flowers in terms
Speaker 3: of like being an influence on them.
Speaker 4: How crazy was that era.
Speaker 3: Because that was like early oh eight on nine, at
Speaker 3: the beginning of this craziness that we you know this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was cool. Yeah, that was cool. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was listening to a lot of the early ship.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, this, this is this ship is cool,
Speaker 2: just gonna do something like it's gonna do something big.
Speaker 2: And the here that he was even out there doing
Speaker 2: my sh at a couple of his shows, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that's dope because he's like one of
Speaker 2: them guys at the time.
Speaker 3: I mean, but at the time he was like I
Speaker 3: mean that I felt like the September eighteenth Ship was
Speaker 3: like some people thought he was from Houston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you would listen to it and if
Speaker 2: you ain't know the wiser, you would think that. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, because a lot of a lot
Speaker 2: of what Houston is you're gonna hear it, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people ship today.
Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.
Speaker 2: But I mean it definitely was all over all over
Speaker 2: his ship, and I mean it was it was dope.
Speaker 2: It started with him doing it at uh I want
Speaker 2: to say, I think it was club Hush. He performed it,
Speaker 2: and uh, he tried to stop the crowd and the
Speaker 2: motherfuckers like, nah, nigga, we're finna wrap this bitch. He
Speaker 2: had to say, Nah, man, look, I got a show
Speaker 2: limit y'all, gotta let me finish this motherfucker. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: then the next time the Verizon Theater, he had me
Speaker 2: come out and he did that bitch with me.
Speaker 4: Oh that's fire, That's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like because you know, I think Drake
Speaker 3: Is has done a lot. It feels like he's done
Speaker 3: a lot of events in Houston to do his best
Speaker 3: to kind of like get back even though, like you know,
Speaker 3: because he's been influenced by the sound, some people don't
Speaker 3: necessarily do that. You think he's done a lot to
Speaker 3: be like, I'm not taking from the culture, I'm inspired
Speaker 3: by the culture. But I'm gonna, you know, do what
Speaker 3: I can to get back to the community.
Speaker 2: Type shit I mean, could be. I mean, to be honest,
Speaker 2: I don't be paying attention. Yeah I'll be. I'll be
Speaker 2: trying to get me. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: hear about what I hear about, But I mean, whenever
Speaker 2: I hear about him being in the city, it'd be
Speaker 2: always some cool shit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: especially now living so close to the city.
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like the age down club set
Speaker 3: that you're gonna hear is you most city done? Obviously
Speaker 3: somebody will throw in September eighteenth and then get throwed.
Speaker 2: Get throwed might be in there, Yeah, get throwed might
Speaker 2: be in there. I would say most city done September eighteenth,
Speaker 2: and then I would say June twenty seventh. Okay, I
Speaker 2: would say June twenty seven. You know, which is the
Speaker 2: where he got You know that from right. That's like
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck. Every night in the club,
Speaker 2: them three them going crazy or they're gonna fuck you up.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, bestrip club in Houston.
Speaker 1: I ain't been the one of the motherfuckers and so
Speaker 1: long I can't see.
Speaker 3: I respect it. Stay out the strip club, don't get those.
Speaker 4: Hoards your money.
Speaker 2: Yeah I used to, but now I respect them the time.
Speaker 3: Who would you put Let's say, because we kind of
Speaker 3: know like the OG H town like Mount Rushmore would
Speaker 3: obviously include Scarface and the Ghetto boys. And but let's
Speaker 3: say you're era en up, I'll say, like from like
Speaker 3: oh six, and who's on like the the new og
Speaker 3: Mount Rushmore of Houston hip hop for you?
Speaker 4: If you're on there? Who else you got up there
Speaker 4: with you?
Speaker 1: Out of the new the newer era.
Speaker 4: The new o G guys, you know you're era and uh.
Speaker 2: Well, I got to say, I got to say slim thug,
Speaker 2: I got to say ki ki look kikey.
Speaker 3: Mm Paul shout out to Paul, Yeah, Paul, wow, oh man.
Speaker 1: I don't know. For the O G side, I probably
Speaker 1: say I'll probably say that because I mean I rock
Speaker 1: with these people. That yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it's more.
Speaker 2: But you know, I ain't gonna I don't want to
Speaker 2: put too many eggs on my plate. I know those
Speaker 2: me and those guys are for sure it's a couple more.
Speaker 3: But I mean, yeah, sure, talk to me about would
Speaker 3: you because you you had like a series of albums
Speaker 3: are all named after drugs like crack, heroin, cocaine, et cetera.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Are you ever gonna get a that no album?
Speaker 3: Hell No, I gotta ask because I feel like this
Speaker 3: is the perfect time to put an album out called
Speaker 3: Fentanahl get back here.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, you got you got Heroin Dark?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah you do, But I mean Heroin was like.
Speaker 4: You gotta you got a fucking album of a myth
Speaker 4: pipe on the cover.
Speaker 1: I do, I do.
Speaker 3: I remember seeing that ship at the fucking Zo Records
Speaker 3: in Phoenix as a kid.
Speaker 4: And being like, oh, I saw one of them at
Speaker 4: my aunt's house.
Speaker 1: See it was myth.
Speaker 2: The fact, I don't know what the fuck fitting really
Speaker 2: is and ituld just be taking motherfuckers down when it's good. No,
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to take you
Speaker 2: down all the way. I want you to jam, I
Speaker 2: want you to bob your head, but I want that
Speaker 2: motherfucker to come back up though I don't want you.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, hero would be taking motherfuckers down, but you
Speaker 3: can see Heroin.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know what the look like.
Speaker 3: Do you ever feel like you kind of got out
Speaker 3: of drugs at the right time before all this ship
Speaker 3: got weird and spiked with all this craziness.
Speaker 1: Man, I ain't doing nothing crazy than sir.
Speaker 3: So you never got into any of the syrups. Was
Speaker 3: just kind of where Yes, yeah, I like now that
Speaker 3: even like the shirtin people were saying that they're sprying
Speaker 3: weed with that. Now I'm like, who the fuck doing that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they should be weak and they want their
Speaker 2: ship to be strong, when when they said it to you,
Speaker 2: they're probably not trying to.
Speaker 1: Kill you with.
Speaker 4: But that sh it's insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's why I'm like, yeah, like I want to
Speaker 2: kill you with my music, but I don't really want
Speaker 2: to kill.
Speaker 4: You hypothetically of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna get sued or some ship.
Speaker 4: Being from Texas. Have you ever gone hog hunting?
Speaker 2: I ain't never actually shot one of the motherfuckers, but
Speaker 2: I've been on I've been on one before a long time.
Speaker 4: Ago, like on a hunt.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, there was some motherfuckers and ship. Hell nah,
Speaker 1: you didn't like it? Nah?
Speaker 2: I mean you know, I went out there thinking that
Speaker 2: I was going I had to let's just say I
Speaker 2: had the wrong shit on. Oh for sure, I had
Speaker 2: the wrong ship, and I was like, damn, I paid now.
Speaker 4: I got a similar story.
Speaker 1: I went to Texas with ot Oh yeah, n your
Speaker 1: shit was fucked up.
Speaker 4: Listen. I was in Bay City with this full.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We had like a twelve hour day of hunting. We
Speaker 3: did the helicopter thing, and then we had a late
Speaker 3: night like call of duty. Everything's pitch black. We got
Speaker 3: night goggles on. I got Travis Scott fucking Jordan One's
Speaker 3: on there. They're fucked. They're just mud. Like you said,
Speaker 3: you gotta wear some bullshit if you're gonna go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure, you were trying to be flying.
Speaker 4: I had not to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have no I didn't have no ship
Speaker 2: to go hunting in. It was just like you want
Speaker 2: to go. I'm like, yeah, let's go. Shit, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to roll up weed and then I'm like hold on,
Speaker 2: Like y'all want me to actually get out the car.
Speaker 2: They were like no, this is like we're gonna ride
Speaker 2: up in there. I'm like, and then do it. Then
Speaker 2: we're gonna get out and walk ah, y'all tripping. I
Speaker 2: got on our babe. I had on some man. I'm tripping,
Speaker 2: I had on some threes, had on some leather threes.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the threes.
Speaker 1: And the bitch was eight farty. I like, nah, I
Speaker 1: fucking hog after that.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: I'm curious if you could do a joint album with
Speaker 3: anybody right now, who's on who's who's on the younger
Speaker 3: side of the hip hop spectrum in h town?
Speaker 4: Who would be.
Speaker 1: M that's a good question because it probably wouldn't be
Speaker 1: no motherfucking body, to be honest.
Speaker 3: My whole album EP, that's five songs.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I already got there with.
Speaker 4: Pro Pane shout to Propain, who's incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I gotta I got something like that with Propane.
Speaker 2: But I mean, like I'm kind of I'm kind of
Speaker 2: funny when it comes to that ship, yeah, because I
Speaker 2: kind of like be moanting ship to mean something.
Speaker 4: For sure, like let's not do it just to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean, I mean that's cool. I mean,
Speaker 2: we do songs just to do them all the time.
Speaker 2: But I kind of like want to wait because you know, Propane,
Speaker 2: do you know, shout out to Probate pro a bunch
Speaker 2: of shit with everybody m hm, So.
Speaker 4: You kind of will be like, yo, if we do it,
Speaker 4: like I ain't trying to be.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I want to wait till he ain't did nothing with
Speaker 2: nobody in a while, because the ship I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: with him, I want that ship to stand out in
Speaker 2: another type of way.
Speaker 4: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I mean like and like everybody out there is
Speaker 2: doing shit with everybody right now, which is good to
Speaker 2: that's good to see, you know what I'm saying out
Speaker 2: of their own errors and ship. But you know, uh,
Speaker 2: And to be honest, I don't even know if I
Speaker 2: just say this ship or that. But we was toying
Speaker 2: with a We was toying with a pro Pans Zero
Speaker 2: Sauce Walker album. So we was toying with that, like
Speaker 2: we ain't. We ain't recording nothing only yet. But they
Speaker 2: did some ship that we was talking about though.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Salwaka great mind. He's got to do
Speaker 3: a song called things called three or four Bounty Hunter.
Speaker 4: That's fucking raw. Shout out to him.
Speaker 3: Yo, you were on the last ugh GK album ever
Speaker 3: before passed passed away. What was your actually? I think
Speaker 3: that album came out after he passed away or around
Speaker 3: the time he passed away. It was a double disc.
Speaker 3: I think I think I think it might have came
Speaker 3: out before he passed. But what was it like? I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like pimpsy with the internet would have been crazy.
Speaker 4: He'd have had a podcast.
Speaker 3: He'd have been canceled thirty five times by now, this
Speaker 3: motherfucker would.
Speaker 4: He could have been the president. Who knows. But what
Speaker 4: was it like being around pimps like?
Speaker 1: Man? It was?
Speaker 2: It was educational and funny as fuck. Yeah, and in
Speaker 2: that order, because he's gonna always say some shit like
Speaker 2: he like, just like this nigga know everything. Hey man,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go over here, man, let me tell you
Speaker 2: about it over that, whether he was talking to him
Speaker 2: or not. You know what I'm saying, Like this nigga
Speaker 2: was gonna and then he gonna end up saying some
Speaker 2: funny shit to you on accident that wasn't even funny
Speaker 2: to him. So if you laughing at the shit, he's
Speaker 2: gonna be like, fuck you laughing at It's serious. That
Speaker 2: shit was like it was comical as it was coming
Speaker 2: uncle as fuck. And uh, but he always told you
Speaker 2: something good and he always said something about a dollar time.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I always had some real
Speaker 2: strong building words. You know what I'm saying out for
Speaker 2: what me and Slim Thug need to be doing and
Speaker 2: all this other shit. And I wrote, I wrote a
Speaker 2: song about y'all niggas. I don't give a fuck if
Speaker 2: you like it or not. Nigga knocking those nine and
Speaker 2: I was like, hum from the player for you and
Speaker 2: he played that part. He was like yeah, he was
Speaker 2: like Slim Thug and Zero like what was it?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 2: We still bullshitting need to sit down, take a tour.
Speaker 2: Us too much money to be getting. And I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Nigga, we squashed that shit last month, though,
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck the song coming out.
Speaker 4: Anyway, Nigga, So y'all know the songs on the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, damn, But you know it was cool though.
Speaker 2: That was that's kind of dope though.
Speaker 3: That Like, it's because back then you could just leak
Speaker 3: music right away to the internet, like it had to
Speaker 3: come out. So it's like, yeah, the fact y'all had
Speaker 3: a heads up to you guys, and the fact that
Speaker 3: he had the wherewithal to be like, I'm gonna put
Speaker 3: this out there because he's got the influence to maybe
Speaker 3: bring you all together, you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, wasn't nobody else do that? Ship? Though?
Speaker 4: Have you been to Trilburger? M?
Speaker 1: Is it good? It?
Speaker 4: Is this the hype real?
Speaker 1: I like the vegan Burger?
Speaker 4: Are you vegan?
Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be. I respect that I'll be. I'll
Speaker 2: be trying.
Speaker 4: I got your music playing, right or Jesus Christ or no,
Speaker 4: it was Tyler playing? What made you want to go vegan?
Speaker 4: Was it just just to be healthier? Like doctor tell
Speaker 4: you that you had to do it?
Speaker 1: I had a I had I had a couple of chins.
Speaker 1: I had a ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: couple of chins. Yeah, and I.
Speaker 4: Wanted to be You don't want to have two chins.
Speaker 2: I want a singular chainmanship. So I needed to change
Speaker 2: my dad to you know, pro create a singular chin.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And if you want the single chin, you got to
Speaker 3: get rid of one of them. So you give you bullshit?
Speaker 2: So you got to eat right, You got to work
Speaker 2: out and do all the other ship we be doing?
Speaker 4: So how much how much way to be lost? So
Speaker 4: you've been taking that.
Speaker 1: Serious about like sixty eight pounds.
Speaker 4: That's a fucking that's an anorexic white woman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 2: That's a twelve year old for sure, from but but
Speaker 2: from like but from like damn near three hundred pounds,
Speaker 2: So you know, I lost a lot and in games
Speaker 2: and ship back the way I'm supposed to. So I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's way better than it was. I got Utchy
Speaker 2: in again.
Speaker 4: Back to the single.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you feel of a single.
Speaker 4: Yo, do you you know?
Speaker 3: I always find it interesting that we have like a
Speaker 3: couple of the biggest artists in the world, well, not
Speaker 3: a couple of I mean should obviously Beyonce for considering her,
Speaker 3: but and hip hop at least Meg and Travis are
Speaker 3: kind of like they're not there's literal superstars. And it's
Speaker 3: interesting because I had this conversation with Saswoka. He was
Speaker 3: saying that a lot of I think he was talking
Speaker 3: more about Meg, but he was essentially saying, like the
Speaker 3: outward list outwardness of them repping he town sometimes isn't
Speaker 3: where he would like to see it, because I feel
Speaker 3: like when you think of mag the first thing you
Speaker 3: don't think of like you kind of got to be
Speaker 3: reminded she's from Houston. But how crazy is it? Like
Speaker 3: for you, for you to see kind of like where
Speaker 3: those two people's careers have gone being from the city. Like,
Speaker 3: but somehow they I feel like they don't get necessarily
Speaker 3: associated in the same way we think of like slim
Speaker 3: thug or even like ot ot is so like shoving
Speaker 3: it down your throat, bitch'all from Texas.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you know, Otch, he got Texas in
Speaker 2: his name, you know what I'm saying. So you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying that miss So I mean you gotta think,
Speaker 2: you gotta think that just just off his.
Speaker 4: Name, right, and he has a fucking cowboy hat on
Speaker 4: it all times, so there's.
Speaker 2: Stiff yeaways looking like he on the ranch like yeah,
Speaker 2: that's this texas As fucked Yes. But I mean for me, man,
Speaker 2: I don't even give a fuck. Yeah, I don't even
Speaker 2: give a fuck because I mean, uh, people do what
Speaker 2: people do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You want to say, even like Don Tolliver, Don Talker's huge.
Speaker 2: From Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean you know,
Speaker 2: some people some people do, some people don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, you have any like you and you
Speaker 3: and Travis ever chopping up out maybe doing a record
Speaker 3: together or anything.
Speaker 1: We talked about it. Yeah, we talked about it.
Speaker 2: I did something back in the gap that didn't that
Speaker 2: didn't see the light of day on there.
Speaker 4: But really, which album was supposed to be on astral World?
Speaker 1: Whatever pornography was.
Speaker 4: I think that was. I think that was Rodeo whatever
Speaker 4: it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, whatever it was. But I mean, she.
Speaker 4: That'd be crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know that happens a lot.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it does. I mean and and and and
Speaker 3: you You can't take a person because it just happens, Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah, Don Tolliver. I remember someone told me
Speaker 3: that Cheddar the Connect found Don Tolliver, and I was like,
Speaker 3: flick at the risk, guy, Fire, That's just that's some
Speaker 3: Houston ass ship.
Speaker 4: Shout out to Shade of the Connected. All right, so
Speaker 4: your new album is coming.
Speaker 1: Out in December, December thirteenth.
Speaker 3: December thirteenth. The new record with Silo is currently out
Speaker 3: coming now. It's coming soon, coming soon, Yeah, coming soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna I think we're gonna lead out
Speaker 2: with this little freestyle done no Ice.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna lead out with that on the eighth.
Speaker 2: I believe Fire yeah, and then uh, then the Sea
Speaker 2: Low record gonna come after that, then Rotha gonna come
Speaker 2: after that. Then I'm gonna December thirteenth.
Speaker 4: I love it. Yeah yeah, So this is your second
Speaker 4: album this year.
Speaker 1: Huh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: You don't man, y'all, but Texas boys don't play about
Speaker 3: putting out your projects.
Speaker 1: Dog and the Bills don't play. We gotta keep going.
Speaker 4: Hey, but that ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I've been looking at we were driving I forget where
Speaker 3: we were at in Texas. We're leaving Houston to go
Speaker 3: to Bay City, and we're driving by a suburb that
Speaker 3: was in the middle of nowhere. Just off to the left.
Speaker 3: There was just brand new houses in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 3: It was just flat everywhere.
Speaker 4: I just pulled up Zillow and I saw how much
Speaker 4: the house is cost and I was like, damn, we
Speaker 4: might need to move to Texas. No state tax, y'all.
Speaker 3: Can protect yourself, can't get an abortion, but hey, pull
Speaker 3: out it is what a what everything that's good. There's
Speaker 3: you know, there's a given a take no abortions, but
Speaker 3: you could carry a gun and no state tax. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you moved to fucking l A l A will make
Speaker 3: you consider it fucking just I don't know, getting the
Speaker 3: fuck up out of the country. Nonetheless, man, Zero, I
Speaker 3: appreciate you pulling up bro, your legend, and your new
Speaker 3: album is on the way, so make sure y'all go
Speaker 3: support it, Go support everything this guy's got going on.
Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Zero Fire.