WEBVTT - #491 - Z-Ro 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:01.120 Hey, what's cracking with? 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:03.000 It is zero to King of the Ghetto, the most 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.200 of it done, and right now you're checking out me 0:00:05.720 --> 0:00:07.680 on the Bootleg KIV podcast. 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:11.440 All ready, before we start the episode, man, I got 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.400 to remind everybody that we are on the radio in 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:18.079 eighty cities every single day across the country. Man Real 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.720 ninety two to three every day Monday through Friday in 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.480 Los Angeles, Wild ninety four to one in Tampa, Kkfur, 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:25.160 and Phoenix. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.040 We're all over the place, Miami, Vegas. We can go 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:28.560 on and on. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.240 We want to give a shout out to our latest affiliate. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.280 Shout out to Knoxville, Tennessee, Man Hot one oh four 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.920 point five for being the latest city to join the 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.720 Bootleg CAV Show network. All right now, I don't ever 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.800 really talk about the radio show on the podcast, keep 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.159 them separate. But if you want to listen to the 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.200 radio show, you can click the link in the bio 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.479 for a list of all the cities you can listen 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:54.600 to at Yeah, that makes sense. Let's get to the interview, Yo, 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:55.760 Bootleg CAV Podcast. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.520 Man, special guests in here, a legend rep in h 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:00.840 Town zero. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.640 What's happening, Man, what's hapening. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:04.640 It's good to see you. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:06.560 Man. It's funny because you know, I'm real tight with 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.039 one of my brothers was Mexicano team Okay, and he 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:11.080 loves you man. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:12.920 Yeah, Man, shut out Mexican. 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:14.240 He says you're his Tupac. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:15.640 Yeah. 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:17.920 Indeed he did say that y'all got the record together, 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.360 so I know that was a big deal for him 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:19.960 to make happen. 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.880 Yeah, we got a couple of records together now. Yeah. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.720 Shout out to him, bro, shout out to for you man, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.600 Like you've been kind of a part of every I 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.720 mean not every era of Houston music obviously, but the 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:35.280 last twenty years to see kind of like where Texas 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:37.000 music as a whole is, because now Dallas is getting 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.160 in on the action. How do you feel about like 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.640 kind of what's going on with h Town in the 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:44.320 movement is happening with with the with the new generation 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:44.800 right now. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.600 I mean it's good, you know, uh, the same thing 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:50.760 it was for us and you know one those before us. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.320 So I mean to see the to see the growth, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.840 I mean, you know, the rotation like it's supposed to be. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:58.600 It's way different, right, but I think it's supposed to 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:00.800 be so I mean know thatsoluted. 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.120 Yeah, I mean there's so much talent, Like I just 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.400 he's just thinking of like pay so pay so obviously 0:02:05.440 --> 0:02:08.280 shout to Sauce Walker, shout out to Ot, shout out 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.960 to uh D babies. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.560 Are you she got it? Man, y'all got y'all got 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.040 to wait right now and oh geez is still doing 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:15.680 their fucking thing. 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:17.239 Hey, we got to eat too. 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:19.440 You gotta eat too, man. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.600 I always tell people if you ever go to Texas 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.080 and you've never been to like Houston before, and you 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.800 go to the club, I don't think people understand the 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.919 reaction that most city down gets. Oh yeah, it's kind 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:35.639 of like the dreams and nightmares of Houston. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.680 It is it is it is it? That's she crazy 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.160 because I didn't think it was gonna be that one. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.200 You know what I'm saying. I knew it was gonna 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:48.800 be but like I was like that one. But then 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:50.440 you know when I listened to it, like you know, 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:52.360 my should to do a move a little bit, so 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:53.960 you know it's I understand. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.040 Yeah, for sure, it's it's crazy because it's like one 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:00.280 of them ones that like, you know, you if if 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:01.760 you grow up in La you might not have ever 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:02.920 heard it, but then if. 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:04.080 You if you go hop on a plane to go 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:04.839 to Houston. 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:06.280 It's fucking that's how you're gonna hear it. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:07.320 Yeah, it's insane. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:12.760 Yeah, it's that ship is Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:13.320 it's crazy. 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.320 You always will hear people say that you are one 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:20.280 of the most underrated MC's just period. Do you feel 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.880 like you are underrated? And when we talk about the 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.959 goats and if so, like, why do you think that? 0:03:25.840 --> 0:03:29.400 I mean, probably because I'm not as accessible as you know, 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.600 all these other people are. Obviously, you know, I'm still independent, 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.320 so you know, I do what I do and uh, 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.520 it don't really go I guess beyond that, right, So 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.120 it's kind of like I'm you know, it's a ceiling there, 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:47.240 so but I mean, I don't know. Having access to 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:49.480 get out of that ceiling is something that you know, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.320 we experiment with because definitely needs to happen. But to 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:56.920 say underrated, I mean, you know, I mean it's a 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.360 yes or no thing. I mean, I feel wall may 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:02.840 be coming from. But then at the same time, I 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.160 know the people that they considered to be goats, they 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:09.720 know who I am, so uh, I'm not really tripping 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:10.440 on it too hard. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:11.120 Facts. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.000 And also I feel like one of the the guys 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.479 who used melodies in a way that like not a 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.640 lot of artists really like. 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.560 When you were doing the melodic shit, it wasn't like 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:21.800 the thing to do. It's the post. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.760 Like fast forward to today, everyone's everyone's got crazy melodies 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.640 and everyone's kind of doing their singing thing. 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:27.800 But you were, I feel like you've been doing that 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:28.599 for fucking ever. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.520 I mean, you know, I had to. It was a 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.599 money thing, yeah, because when I first started off, I 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.359 couldn't afford to pay nobody to sing that shit for me. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:38.960 So you're like, yo, I ain't got nobody to do 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:39.359 the hooks. 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:40.160 I learned how. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.559 To do it myself. Yeah, wow, I learned. I stood 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.760 in the mirror. Somebody was charging me five hundred dollars 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:47.719 or something, and I was like, I ain't got no 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.000 motherfucking five hundred dollars. So I stood in the mirror 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.080 like I was. I slung the part until it sounded. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.640 I then I just kept doing that shit. After that, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.360 I just kept on and kept on and kept on it. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.960 I mean shit, it just became second nature. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.920 That's fire, and it worked out. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:04.440 It did it did. It pays us plays a lot 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:04.880 of bills. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:05.360 It does. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:05.760 It does. 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.400 Indeed, man, can you tell me what it was like? 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:10.960 Because you came up with a screwed up click, and 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.520 I feel like I kind of got hipped to that. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.000 Obviously I knew about like stuff being chopped and screwed, 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.120 but in terms of like consuming that kind of music, 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.680 I kind of got into listening to the screwed and 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:27.279 chop shit around the time like the first Mike Jones 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:30.200 album came out, and like Michael Watson was doing it, 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.960 but obviously screwed up click because the originators, did you 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:38.200 understand the like gravity of being a part of Like 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:39.839 did y'all feel like you were a part of some 0:05:39.920 --> 0:05:41.560 historical shit at the time, or we are just doing 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:41.920 your thing? 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:48.760 And uh, he was kind of kind of both, like 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:50.800 in the beginning and one that way. Obviously it was 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.760 the ending by the time I got there, But like 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.479 I had been watching what this music was doing. You know, 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.920 you come to Houston and you playing your record. If 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.600 they like it, first thing they gonna do is slow 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:09.800 that shit down. And they weren't just gonna slow it down. 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.840 They had to be slowed down with the correct type 0:06:12.839 --> 0:06:16.120 of double beating, and like screw had to do that shit. 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.400 So in the first beginning, it was just like, oh man, 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.839 you know, yeah, it's some cool shit for Houston. Until 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.040 the people from Canada and you know, coming from Amsterdam 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.520 though we just got off the plane. We want to 0:06:28.560 --> 0:06:31.479 get a return of the red. We want to get 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.880 a you know, worldwide south side and all. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.280 This here, like you want to get all that. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:41.359 So they coming from other countries to come get these 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.480 back then, which was just cossette tapes, but. 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.520 They were like bootlegs, right, so like they'd go for 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.440 overseas people would pay a lot of good money for 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:48.800 that shit. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.400 But they was coming over here paying regular price. The 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.440 screw was selling it out his house. This out the house, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.680 like got his daddy house crazy. And then you get 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.840 the store. So now it's like it don't matter where 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:02.920 you come from. They flying all the way in because 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.760 they oh no, his store screwed up click records of 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.479 the tapes, screwed up records of tapes. At the time, 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:12.160 it was located on Coling Boulevard, So they just get 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.600 off the plane and come on Culling Boulevard, go in there, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.640 take pictures with everything get loaded up and go back 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:21.040 to the you know, they respect the countries. So I 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.880 think right before we passed, that's when we was like, nah, man, 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.080 this shit getting iconic. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:27.760 It's different. 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:31.640 Yeah, I feel like as an artist had to like 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:33.320 you kind of had to feel like you had some 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.160 shit going. I'm assuming back then, if you're a Houston 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.840 artist and he screwed the ship up, that mean it 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:39.480 has some motion. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:44.920 I mean yeah, because I mean, how screw would do 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.080 it if we go in there to go do a tape, 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:49.880 like if we're doing if we're doing a tape with you, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.520 it's probably just the all right, cool I want I 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:57.800 want to I won't bout out on here. I want 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.440 friends on here. So all he doing it taking the 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.520 songs that you give him on a list and he's 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.080 just mixing them, and you know you he give you 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:07.840 a microphone. So here's your chance to make a cool 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.480 little old tape for you and your people, or here's 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.200 your chance to do some myconic and be known as 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.360 whoever you want to be, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.840 So that that's kind of like how it was with me. 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.040 I'm I'm finna go on here, and I'm finna fuck 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.760 some ship up. Yeah, that was mine. I'm like, I'm 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.440 gonna start my ship here. I was already on a 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.800 little record label. But that shit ain't start popping til 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.160 Screw put his hands on it. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:33.120 Yeah, for sure. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:37.160 I was gonna ask you, like, uh, you are somebody 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.960 who's obviously you know you've talked about your relationship with 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.240 Drake before. We always think about Houston as kind of 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.680 being a place where that kind of popped off, like 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.240 sipping you know what I'm saying. It's obviously it's a 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.680 big part of the culture. Yeah, tooking over hip hop 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:53.480 still to this day. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.000 I mean, you know it's still for you though, Like, 0:08:56.360 --> 0:08:58.720 was it ever? Do you still do that? 0:08:59.240 --> 0:08:59.680 Yeah? 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:00.840 Are you sober? 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.120 I almost died from that shit that I was gonna say. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.440 I know you went through some health shit with that, Like, 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:07.320 can you kind of speak to the because we always 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:10.640 see it get glorified right right, right right, And everybody's 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:15.280 capable of recreationally using any drug, but it's obviously an 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.400 addictive thing. It's opiate, So can you kind of just 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.199 shine a light on just what you went through and 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:21.640 in some of the dark side. 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:24.960 Of some man, I'm gonna say the the worst thing 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.920 for me is that I ain't gonna say I discovered 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.440 the habit right when the money started coming, but right 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.960 when the money started coming up. Until that point, the 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.720 only thing I did with my money is that so 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.800 I do a show. You know how much it was, 0:09:42.480 --> 0:09:44.800 I'm guaranteed you just being fifty percent of that shit 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:50.320 don't serve. So right when that shit was getting bad, bad, bad, 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.400 I was spending like twenty eight five a month just 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:54.120 on that shit. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:55.240 Month. 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.319 Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not drinking that shit by 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.520 myself though, right, like you know, I mean, you know, 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.600 for my people, for some sucker ass niggas, for some 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.079 fake motherfuckers, and for you know, but all I knew, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:12.280 especially where you from. It's like she who who got 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.040 some bread around this motherfucker? Oh he got the gallons, 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.040 he got the paints, so she you know, you buying 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.720 four to six ounces of this shit every day you 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:22.640 get you some money. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.800 Now you getting two and three paints of this shit. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.000 You ain't drinking all that shit at one time, But 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.839 I mean, still though, you overloading, So me, I want 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.439 to buy enough of this shit. I ain't got to 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.480 be in your face every motherfucking day, Like how much 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:35.839 you got? Okay, I got nine gallons? All right, give 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.920 me that all, give me all that, all right, I'm 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.480 taking the nine gallons with me. So nine gallons. I 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.240 ain't supposed to your ass for the rest of the year. 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.200 In fact, I'm gonna see you in Bouy sixty days though. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:47.240 Yeah. 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:50.440 So, I mean I got a potty in here right now. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:52.840 He was drinking some of that shit with me, you 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.840 know what I'm saying. But I mean, nah, I fucked 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.000 around and locked up. I fucked around and stroked out 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:58.560 on that shit. 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:00.480 Was that while you were on her? While you were 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.440 trying to get off it? Both because I know you 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:04.680 go through withdrawals, right. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.160 I mean yeah, yeah, But I mean I had drunk 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.600 so much of that shit in my life. When I 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.120 stopped drinking, it ain't ever really feel like it. I 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:15.520 was still dope to fuck up. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:16.640 It was just in here. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.599 Yeah. 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:21.480 And when I asked, I asked, I guess said high 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:23.040 power to help me with my habit. 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:24.840 I caught a case. 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.360 I was pulling up to a video shoot and the 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.720 cops came out of nowhere, and you know, down there's 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:35.000 the state jail feeling it, so they take me to 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.280 jail for the syruf I missed the video. These dumb 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:42.960 motherfuckers leave the syrup in my car, so I get 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:48.080 out of jail heavy and Mike d take me to 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.640 my car. I'm out on bond for some shit that's 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.560 in my back seat, so they ain't even got no evidence. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.439 So I'm like, damn, mis fucked up. I'm gonna go 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.600 to court and she's gonna get dismissed. Ain't got to drink. 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.920 I drunk that shit and then I went to go 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.440 mess with somebody at a studio and then before I 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:10.320 knew it, my left side wouldn't move, and then I 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:14.480 had a siege. And when I came out of that shit, man, look, 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.120 you can't pay me to damn not putting a pancake 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.079 syrup on food. 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.360 I ain't fucking with those syrup. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.080 So that was like the wake up call. 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:26.240 July fifteen, twenty fifteen. Woke the fuck up, woke the 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:27.920 fuck up, and I ain't fuck with that shit. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:29.840 Since that's amazing, congrats man, she. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.400 I don't even need congrats with those shit like that. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.200 Hey maybe, but that's I mean, you know, they always 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:36.439 say people got to hit rock Bottom. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.000 Yeah you damn that dying. 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.839 Yeah shit, that ain't congrats. That's bitch ass motherfucker. You 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.400 should have been took this shit serious. And I'm like 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.000 you right with me, Just don't take me out. 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:49.840 You know what I'm saying. 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.320 Listen, I think, like like you said, like you you 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.640 the money came while the habit was happening, and there 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.600 was a mixture of those two things before. 0:13:00.160 --> 0:13:00.840 Like that's the thing. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.079 If it's being glorified in the music, you don't look 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:04.280 at it like I'm a drug addict. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:05.760 You just look at it like this is just a 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:06.600 part of what I do. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:10.360 But you know, because you I feel like, do you 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.080 feel like the addiction got in the way of your 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.200 progression as like your career? 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.400 Nah, I mean that's the fucked up part. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.760 Like that ship made the ship progress more because a 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:23.280 lot of people like dumb shit. 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:24.439 You know what I'm saying. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.200 So I mean in terms of just like I got 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.800 some cold songs like Can't Leave You Drink Alone. 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.040 That's one of your biggest songs, right. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.280 And it's I mean yeah, but I mean it could 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.120 be it could be viewed as one of the biggest 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:39.960 intros to a fucked up life also because I'm doing 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:42.960 this shit. I mean, like it's cool to these people. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.240 It's cool to me when I did it, but damn 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.000 they're dying. Just shit wasn't cool, right, So that is 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.760 like I done left drink alone. You know what I'm saying, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:55.079 Like remix, I ain't fucking with no no rubble toutsing 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:55.480 or nothing. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:55.920 I'm good. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.280 Yeah, so you get a copy like I'm good. Just 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.199 give me a lotenger, man, me a fucking give me 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.360 when the honey honey things, a little cough drop of 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.960 cherry when it mint eight. 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:08.520 Now it's interesting because for you man, now that like, 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.199 did you notice clarity? 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.520 Did you notice like you having your shit together more 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.080 professionally after you got sober? Nah? 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:20.760 I can't say I did. Nah. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:25.400 I mean the main thing I recognized about the difference 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:29.000 in my music now is how my voice sounds like 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:33.200 this type of I mean, it's like waking up in 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:37.000 the morning and you say your first words, this is 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.360 the deepest and the most curious your voice is gonna 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:40.200 be through the day. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.200 Did you answer that phone people like yo, you just 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.040 wake up? Yeah, because you know it sound. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:45.200 Like I did. 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:48.040 Yeah, But around five thirty six, o'clock your ship up 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.880 a little bit like this because you gonna go out 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.760 your good ship out your motherfucker voice. Yeah, that sir, 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.760 mixed with that weed. It keep your voice sounded like 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.480 you just woke up our day. Yeah, that's why I 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.920 was able to sing, uh, I can't leave drink alone 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.240 like that and some of the mother songs like you 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.960 know it kind of it kind of really helped with 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.480 how I wanted to sound. And I still sound like that, 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.440 but I guess that it's a lot of the heft 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:19.880 ain't there No more like I don't sound fat as fuck, 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:20.760 no more like that. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:21.440 You know what I'm saying. 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:22.880 That should have you bloated too. 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.280 Yeah, yeah, that's why I was signing. 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.280 Always say it like man that I remember school Boy 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.040 Q was talking about it because school Boy Q went 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:32.600 through his his addition with Lean and he was like, man, 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:33.440 I got off that ship. 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:35.760 I got rid of this gut because that's that that 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.240 lean guts a real fucking thing. 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:40.720 It is because you also drink helisoda, and that's what 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:43.680 the people don't even realize so much soda. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.760 That's crazy. That's where the weight coming from. That's where 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:47.560 the weight coming from. 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:49.400 Because how many two leaders a. 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.840 Man say at the end, at the end of my ship, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.160 it wasn't even no more two leaders of soda. I 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.160 was so I was so into it, motherfucker. You just 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:03.240 get a get get a paint and just go to 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.840 the go to the juice ISyE, and just go get 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.280 a gallon water and just poll the paint in the 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.480 gallon water and just put that bitch in the freezer. 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:16.000 Wipe right when it's slush up like sonic ice. Take 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.920 that motherfucker out, no cup, Just ride out there and 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:23.360 just just to look like, yeah, but a gallon note 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.520 then be riding this motherfucker on interviews. I look at 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.680 my old interviews, motherfucker be like, man, that nigga zero 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:32.080 be stuttering like a motherfucker. No he don't. He on 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:37.600 his syrud I rolled up with uh yeah, uh. I 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.400 go to look at that ship. And now I'm like, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.880 I was about to die right here. I was about 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:46.000 to die right there, like yeah, and you look at 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:48.960 my ship now, motherfucker be like so he so he 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:52.400 knows words, right, Yeah, you can talk like a motherfucker. 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:54.200 That's one thing that innerne can't help you with. 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:54.280 That. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:55.640 You could go back and look at this and be like, 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.000 I never want to be that guy. Yeah that nah, 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.840 that's some real ship. They say, they call you the 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:06.199 real N words. Luther van Dross and the new album 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:11.440 just explain everybody the title of the new albums as wrote. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.280 The Van Dross. Yeah, uh call me Rother. 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.920 That's uh the title of the new the new album 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:22.240 coming out of December thirteenth. And uh you know that Rotha. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.119 You know it's a saluta to Luther because you know, 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:28.560 as you said, I do be doing my being melodic thing. Sure, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.919