WEBVTT - RERUN: COULD TRUMP PASS A SANITY TEST? - 10.3.25

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<v Speaker 1>Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. If

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<v Speaker 1>we all live through this, The subject that will surprise

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<v Speaker 1>historians the most is for how long it was clear

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<v Speaker 1>this man was mentally incoonfident and nobody did anything about it. Ordinarily,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say my conscience was clear about this because

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<v Speaker 1>I first brought it up in June of twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>on the Chelsea Handler Show on Netflix. Yes there was one,

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<v Speaker 1>look it up. Then the next month Vanity Fair published

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<v Speaker 1>a piece I did called could Trump Pass a Sanity Test?

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<v Speaker 1>And we made a video of it. Apparently I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>talk loud enough on the Chelsea Handler Show, or the

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<v Speaker 1>article wasn't long enough, or we didn't make enough videos.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tank the could Trump pass a Sanity Test?

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<v Speaker 1>Article and read it again now virtually unchanged with a

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<v Speaker 1>few notes, because it's all still true, only way worse.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was all there when this article came out

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eleven months ago. One hundred and eleven

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<v Speaker 1>Could Trump pass a Sanity Test? July twenty first, twoenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen Short answer, probably not. First several important caveats. There

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<v Speaker 1>is little worse and nothing cheesier than questioning the psychological

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<v Speaker 1>stability of a public figure, especially a candidate for president,

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<v Speaker 1>even in this case, except that in his year of campaigning,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump has called Lindsey Graham a nut job, Glen

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<v Speaker 1>Beck a real nut job, and Bernie Sanders a wacko.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump has insisted Ben Carson's got pathological disease, and asked

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<v Speaker 1>about Barack Obama is our president insane? He called Ted

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<v Speaker 1>Cruz unstable, unhinged, a little bit of a maniac, and

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<v Speaker 1>crazy or very dishonest. He also called the entire CNBC

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<v Speaker 1>channel crazy. He called Megan Kelly crazy at least six times.

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<v Speaker 1>Respectful reticence about aspersions and cliches and mental health questions

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<v Speaker 1>in a time in which mocking was seemingly slowly maturing

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<v Speaker 1>into concern. That died a long time ago in this

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<v Speaker 1>presidential cycle of twenty sixteen, and it died at Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump's hands. Moreover, if the question is asked seriously and

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<v Speaker 1>not gratuitously, just the examination might explain how Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly survived dozens of moments that might each have been

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<v Speaker 1>campaign enders for almost anybody else. Why have we not

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<v Speaker 1>asked if a given presidential candidate might be disqualified from

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<v Speaker 1>office due to psychological reasons, because we not only can't

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<v Speaker 1>see this forest for the trees, but each time we try,

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<v Speaker 1>there are even more trees blocking our view. In the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four hour news cycle, each successive John Yerke's Iceland

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<v Speaker 1>moment is not registered cumulatively. It merely supplants the one

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<v Speaker 1>from last week or yesterday this morning. This could also

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<v Speaker 1>explain Trump's seeming imperviousness to his own mind bending campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely it must be exhausting to attack the Pope February

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<v Speaker 1>eighteenth attack President Clinton, May eighteenth, attack, John McCain July eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>attack Mexicans June sixteenth, attack Muslims December eighth attack. Candidates

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<v Speaker 1>who use a teleprompter, May twenty sixth, just before you

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<v Speaker 1>give a speech using a teleprompter, May twenty sixth. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be exhausting unless, as the old joke goes,

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<v Speaker 1>no pain no gain, also no brain, no pain anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>The actual sanity test I found for this article is called,

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<v Speaker 1>by delicious coincidence, the hair Psychopathy Checklist Revised, introduced by

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<v Speaker 1>a Canadian criminal psychologist named Robert D. Hare in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty and that's Hare. It's still in use. In some quarters,

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<v Speaker 1>though with ever more diffuse and specific mental health diagnoses.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not without its critics, however, as a practicing

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<v Speaker 1>therapist who walked me through it agreed, it serves as

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of triage device to separate the injured from

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<v Speaker 1>the tripping from the psychopathic. And about that word, we

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<v Speaker 1>seem to have completely muddled up sociopath and psychopath. Sociopath

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<v Speaker 1>think Ted Kaczynski, the unibomber, living out there and his

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<v Speaker 1>shack in the woods, feeling nothing for other humans and

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<v Speaker 1>unable to interact with them, literally mailing it in psychopath

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<v Speaker 1>think Ted Bundy feeling nothing for other humans, but having

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<v Speaker 1>long ago learned how to expertly mimic relationships by being

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<v Speaker 1>whatever he needed to be to whomever he needed to use,

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<v Speaker 1>killing at least thirty women serving as his own counsel,

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<v Speaker 1>and cross examining a female witness, proposing marriage to her

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<v Speaker 1>while she was on the stand, and getting her to

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<v Speaker 1>say yes. For each of the twenty items on the

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<v Speaker 1>hair psychopathy checklist, you're supposed to assign the subject a zero,

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<v Speaker 1>one point or two. The highest and most dangerous score

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<v Speaker 1>is thus forty. In the United States, the accepted minimum

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<v Speaker 1>score for possible psychopathy meaning you might be nuts is thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are the rules. Let's play the freud. The

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<v Speaker 1>test begins with an assessment of charm that is superficial,

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<v Speaker 1>forced charm, faked charm? May I dare say this Trump charm?

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<v Speaker 1>I had interviewed Donald Trump as long ago as nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty three, and I always thought he was a horse's ass.

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<v Speaker 1>But after running into him when we both worked at NBC,

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<v Speaker 1>and then in the lobby of one of his apartment

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<v Speaker 1>buildings in which I lived, I was stunned to encounter

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet, succinct, seemingly sincere co worker and in essence landlord.

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<v Speaker 1>In one role, he described himself as an anti Bush

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<v Speaker 1>pro Obama Liberal. In the other, he urged me to

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<v Speaker 1>contact him personally with any problems or suggestions about the

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<v Speaker 1>building in which I lived. And then he got on

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign stage, and boom, he was America's newest Mussolinium personator.

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<v Speaker 1>For a long while, I was flummixed as to which

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<v Speaker 1>of these truly mutually ex exclusive personalities was the act.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I was reminded that it didn't really matter, which

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<v Speaker 1>that having multiple personalities should by itself preclude one from

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<v Speaker 1>having access to multiple nuclear warheads. I was explaining this

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<v Speaker 1>on Bill Maher's show in November twenty fifteen when mar

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly got so g whiz that I almost didn't recognize him.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, he exclaimed boyishly. Mar cynical to such a

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<v Speaker 1>degree that it makes me seem as earnestly faithful as

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<v Speaker 1>a pope, said he had just been as convinced as

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<v Speaker 1>I was, and thus just as stunned by this hydra

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<v Speaker 1>of Trumpian personas he'd always been nice to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>can easily imagine myself being taken in by a con

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<v Speaker 1>artist like Donald Trump. I mean, Trump wrote me a

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<v Speaker 1>fan letter once. But mar mar who called me a

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<v Speaker 1>corporate allowed in nineteen seventy eight, when I had to

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<v Speaker 1>that point earned about two hundred dollars from all the

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<v Speaker 1>corporations in the world combined. He fooled Bill Maher. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're giving out points about fake charm, Trump gets

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<v Speaker 1>both of them. The next topic was an excessive sense

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<v Speaker 1>of self worth. No kidding, I feel like a supermodel,

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<v Speaker 1>he said on June eighteenth, twenty sixteen, in Phoenix, except

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<v Speaker 1>like times ten, it's true, I'm a supermodel. I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of these magazines. I'm on the cover of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest magazines. This was stated by the first Umpealoopa

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<v Speaker 1>American to run for national office. He is bright orange.

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<v Speaker 1>He is an old man, affecting a hair color and

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<v Speaker 1>style that would have been rejected by the eighties synth

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<v Speaker 1>pop group A flock of seagulls. I served with supermodels.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew supermodels. Supermodels were friends of mine. Donald, You're

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<v Speaker 1>no supermodel. But that is two more points for you.

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<v Speaker 1>The test moves on to ask if the subject can't

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<v Speaker 1>mentally sit still, must he always try to make things

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<v Speaker 1>happen good, bad, or otherwise? Not easily bored but almost

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to focus? Acknowledging that a lot of us get

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<v Speaker 1>a point or two here, I certainly do not. All

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<v Speaker 1>of those job changes of mine were their fault. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me first quote the introduction from Trump's think like a

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<v Speaker 1>billionaire quote, don't take vacations. What's the point? Have a

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<v Speaker 1>short attention span? Most successful people have very short attention spans.

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<v Speaker 1>It has a lot to do with imagination. Here are

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<v Speaker 1>some of the wide ranging businesses Trump's short attention span

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<v Speaker 1>has dragged him and the world into real estate, vitamins, rentals, books, condos,

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<v Speaker 1>trucolate bars, golf courses, pro football, beauty pageants, stakes, board

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<v Speaker 1>game television hosting, bottled water, universities, men's wear, professional wrestling, mortgages, airlines, fragrances, coffee, restaurants,

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<v Speaker 1>energy drinks, vodka, search, engines your analysis, and of course,

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<v Speaker 1>bicycle racing. Bicycle racing the Tour de Trump in which

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<v Speaker 1>I noted at the time, contestants raced three hundred laps

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<v Speaker 1>around his ego. As a twenty twenty five aside. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we add crypto and flags and bibles and merch and

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen hats and twenty twenty hats and twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight hats and twenty thirty two hats and mugshot merch

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<v Speaker 1>and influenced pedling and two more points? The test now

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<v Speaker 1>gets heavy. Is there lying involved? Again? To June eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, at the Woodlands in Texas after the horrible

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<v Speaker 1>Pulse Club shooting. Quote. If some of those wonderful people

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<v Speaker 1>had guns strapped right here, right to their waist or

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<v Speaker 1>right to their ankle, and this son of a bitch

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<v Speaker 1>comes out and starts shooting, and one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>in that room happen to have it and goes boom.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, that would have been a beautiful, beautiful site, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>that would have been a beautiful, beautiful sight. June twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two days later on Twitter, when I said that if

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<v Speaker 1>within the Orlando club you had some people with guns,

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<v Speaker 1>I was obviously talking about additional guards or employees. Can

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<v Speaker 1>I stop here or should I walk you through the

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<v Speaker 1>hot and cold running lies? Alternating with the admissions of

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<v Speaker 1>the Times in the nineties, he pretended to be his

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<v Speaker 1>own spokesman, John Miller and John barn Or say virtually

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<v Speaker 1>every other thing he said since this article came out

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<v Speaker 1>nine years ago. Another two points on your scoreboard, please.

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<v Speaker 1>The test then asks if the patient is manipulative or

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<v Speaker 1>cons people you think I'll add today from the of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, who should we ask to write the

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<v Speaker 1>guest essay on this question? Here? Mike Pence, maybe Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>own daughter Ivanka. I'm giving another two points here. Next

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<v Speaker 1>we remove to the absence of any sense of guilt

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<v Speaker 1>or regret, ask about his faith. At the Family Leadership

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<v Speaker 1>Summit in Ames, Iowa by the moderator Frank Lunce in

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty fifteen, Trump said people are so shocked when

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<v Speaker 1>they find out I am Protestant, I am Presbyterian, and

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<v Speaker 1>I go to church and I love God and I

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<v Speaker 1>love my church. Lunce then followed up with the softball

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<v Speaker 1>of literally biblical proportions. Whether Trump has ever asked God

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<v Speaker 1>for forgiveness for his own actions quote, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>I have. I just go on and try to do

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<v Speaker 1>a better job from there. I don't think so. I

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<v Speaker 1>think if I do something wrong, I think I just

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<v Speaker 1>try and make it right. I don't bring God into

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<v Speaker 1>that picture. I don't. Trump then explained that Holy Communion

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<v Speaker 1>sufficed quote when I drink my little wine, which is

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<v Speaker 1>about the only wine I drink, and have my little cracker,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do that as often as possible because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel cleansed. I think in terms of let's go on

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<v Speaker 1>and let's make it right, unquote the art of the deal. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump picked up this thread with Jake Tapper in January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen. Again the subject was religion. Quote. I like

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<v Speaker 1>to be good. I don't like to have to ask

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<v Speaker 1>for forgiveness. Tapper then asked about arrival, presumed to be

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Cruz, who was conducting field research into the efficacy

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<v Speaker 1>of questioning Trump's religious convictions. Quote, he shouldn't be doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>very unethical. Within a few weeks, Trump attacked Cruise's religious

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<v Speaker 1>convictions on February twelve, health In fact, He's tweeted, how

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<v Speaker 1>can Ted Cruz be an evangelical Christian when he lies

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<v Speaker 1>so much and is so dishonest. Not a week after that,

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<v Speaker 1>Pope Francis answered a question about Trump's overall tone quote,

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<v Speaker 1>A person who thinks only about building walls wherever they

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<v Speaker 1>may be and not building bridges is not Christian. Within hours,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump slammed the Pope fantasized about an ISIS attack on

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<v Speaker 1>the Vatican that only he Trump could stop and concluded

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<v Speaker 1>this remarkable circle of illogic by writing, for a religious

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<v Speaker 1>leader to question a person's faith is disgraceful. This is

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<v Speaker 1>right after he questioned a person's faith, after he twice

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<v Speaker 1>admitted that his faith included the option to not ask

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<v Speaker 1>forgiveness and not quote bring God into that picture, and

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<v Speaker 1>just four months before he'd go back to this well

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<v Speaker 1>and question Hillary Clinton's faith again. That's two more solid points.

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<v Speaker 1>The next item had to be explained to me thoroughly

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<v Speaker 1>from my analyst friend. It's the psychological jargon term shallow affect.

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<v Speaker 1>In some it's tone deafness when it comes to explaining

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<v Speaker 1>relationships between people. For instance, if somebody got up on

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<v Speaker 1>stage for the sake of argument, we'll say it's Billy

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<v Speaker 1>Joel at Madison Square Garden, and that person insulted you

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<v Speaker 1>by sarcastically dedicating to you his song the Entertainer as

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<v Speaker 1>a way of saying you weren't a leader or a politician,

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<v Speaker 1>but merely an entertainer. You might take umbrage or at

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<v Speaker 1>least recognize the insult, not if you are suffering from

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<v Speaker 1>shallow effect. Thank you, Billy Joel, Trump tweeted on May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven, twenty sixteen. Many friends just told me you

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<v Speaker 1>gave me a very kind shout out at MSG. Appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>love your music. Another example of shallow affect would be

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of approach to how people influence each other's

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<v Speaker 1>lives that could be diagrammed as event B follows event A.

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<v Speaker 1>Therefore event A caused event B. If say, a prominent

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<v Speaker 1>athlete ignored you or in some other tangential way, interacted

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<v Speaker 1>with you before failing or being injured. You might think

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<v Speaker 1>in passing that you would somehow jinxt him, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you were still nine or ten years old, but you

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<v Speaker 1>probably wouldn't publicly claim it, not unless you're suffering from

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<v Speaker 1>shallow affect. Quote Derek Jeter had a great career until

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<v Speaker 1>three days ago. Trump tweeted on October fifteenth, twenty twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>after the baseball player shattered his ankle during a game

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<v Speaker 1>when he sold his apartment at Trump World Tower. I

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<v Speaker 1>told him not to sell karma. The answer this chain

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<v Speaker 1>letter or many ankles will be broken theme was not

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<v Speaker 1>some early passing expression of the now familiar syndrome we

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<v Speaker 1>might describe as TWT tweeting, while Trump five days later

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<v Speaker 1>quote Derek Jeter broke ankle one day after he sold

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<v Speaker 1>his apartment in Trump World Tower, and just to finish

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<v Speaker 1>this off. Another aspect to shallow affect would be an

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<v Speaker 1>unwillingness to acknowledge reliance on others. On March sixteenth, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was asked about which foreign policy consultancy was speaking to.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking with myself, number one, because I have a

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<v Speaker 1>very good brain, he said, apparently seriously. I know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing, and I listen to a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk to a lot of people, and at the

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<v Speaker 1>appropriate time, I'll tell you who the people are. But

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<v Speaker 1>my primary consultant is myself, and I have a good

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<v Speaker 1>instinct for this stuff. As an aside, is the narrator

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere to know he's off his break. On June twenty fourth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, in Scotland, Trump again described his dream consultant,

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<v Speaker 1>saying he spoke to quote foreign the advisors all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but the advice has to come from me. The advice

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<v Speaker 1>has to come from me. The effect is shallow. The

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<v Speaker 1>points score is not like that last statement. There's two

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Then it's onto lack of empathy. How much

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<v Speaker 1>lack of empathy can you have? June twelfth, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>hours after the last shots had been fired at the

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<v Speaker 1>Pulse Club in Orlando, quote, appreciate the congrats for being

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<v Speaker 1>right on radical Islamic terrorism. I don't want congrats. I

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<v Speaker 1>want toughness and vigilance. We must be smart. As a reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot give fifteen hundred points for just one item

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<v Speaker 1>on the hair psychopathy checklist, even if that total is

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly deserved. Just just two more here, then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyle question. Does the subject of your exam live his

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<v Speaker 1>life as you know a parasite. This does not mean,

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<v Speaker 1>as I originally thought, living materially off mom and dad

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<v Speaker 1>or others, although that can be a minor component, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if dad gave you a million dollar loan circle nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy and you get nine million more from a bank

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<v Speaker 1>on the promise of your inheritance, and ultimately you got

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<v Speaker 1>about forty million on your father's death, and you considered

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<v Speaker 1>all that just a small start in life. No, it

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<v Speaker 1>has more to do with taking credit for the work

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<v Speaker 1>of others, to the degree of erasing all record of

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<v Speaker 1>their contributions and slapping your name on their efforts, often

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<v Speaker 1>in transactions in which you are literally renting the use

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<v Speaker 1>of your name as a brand and nothing else, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like Trump Pallace, the Tour, to Trump, Trump Steaks, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>taj Mahal, Donald Trump, the Fragrance, and of course Castle

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<v Speaker 1>TRUMPU law. And just as in court, a wife cannot

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<v Speaker 1>be forced to give evidence of parasitic lifestyle against her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>despite Millennia Trump's Conventions speech fiasco in twenty sixteen, unless

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<v Speaker 1>her husband wrote or stole that for her. Remember that

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<v Speaker 1>where her speech sounded suspiciously like Michelle Obama's. Again just

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<v Speaker 1>two points. The mid point two point question asks if

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<v Speaker 1>the subject had poor behavioral controls, Well, what's your definition

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<v Speaker 1>of poor? As a twenty twenty five aside, I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to note the next sentence was written by me in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen. Well, he had poor behavioral controls, but everybody

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<v Speaker 1>agrees he's going to dial it all back this time

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<v Speaker 1>right after he pivots pivots towards dialing it back. Right

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Gonzalo Curiel, right, Don King, Joel Austin, Ben Roethlisberger,

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<v Speaker 1>Pete Rose, or anybody else who Trump claimed had endorsed

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<v Speaker 1>him when they had not, Or the Hispanic ABC reporter

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<v Speaker 1>he called a sleeze, or the losing Republican presidential hopefuls

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<v Speaker 1>he mocked in a video the day after he insisted

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to unite the Republican Party. So we

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<v Speaker 1>are at the halfway mark of this twenty sixteen exam,

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<v Speaker 1>and the article I wrote, could Trump pass a sanity

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<v Speaker 1>test two points per topic? Thirty or thirty five points

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<v Speaker 1>is real trouble. So far, he's been graded for possible

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<v Speaker 1>twenty points, and he has twenty points the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The next topic is promiscuous sexual behavior. Oh, that's next.

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<v Speaker 1>This is countdown back with the second half of the

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<v Speaker 1>July twenty sixteen Vanity Fair article I wrote, Can Trump

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<v Speaker 1>pass a sanity Test? Where with the help of a therapist,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to score how nuts he was even then

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<v Speaker 1>from afar All this in light of Congresswoman Dean's pithy

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<v Speaker 1>and quick observation the President is unwell and Governor Pritzker's

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<v Speaker 1>invocation of invoking the twenty fifth Amendment to remove him

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<v Speaker 1>from office because there's something really wrong with him. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to remind you, you're supposed to give the patient no

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<v Speaker 1>points one point or two point per topic. That's it,

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<v Speaker 1>no variations. So far we've done half of the topics.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten of them, he's gotten twenty points. That's not the

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<v Speaker 1>flex that he would think it would be if you

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<v Speaker 1>told him to resume with the test. Is the individual

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<v Speaker 1>sexually promiscuous? Ahem. When I was a young radio sportscaster,

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<v Speaker 1>I was given the great opportunity to interview by telephone

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<v Speaker 1>a famous athlete who had just been suspended from his

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<v Speaker 1>sport because he had gone to work for a casino

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<v Speaker 1>the athlete now deceased, but will still use a pseudonym.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call him Jimmy Smith was expecting my call. This

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<v Speaker 1>as near as I can remember, it was the transcript

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<v Speaker 1>of the start of that call, ring, ring voice sounding

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Hattie McDaniel, the Academy Award winning actress

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<v Speaker 1>from Gone with the Wind. Mister Smith's residence. Me uh hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Milton Richmond from UPI gave me mister Smith's number and

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<v Speaker 1>said he would be willing to give me a brief interview.

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<v Speaker 1>May I may I speak with him? Please? Voice sounding

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Hattie McDaniel, the Academy Award winning actress

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<v Speaker 1>from Gone with the Wind. Who's calling please me? My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Keith Olderman from UPI Radio. Jimmy Smith. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Jimmy. As silly as the story of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>fake Trump spokesman was. Of course he has invisible friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they're pr flax. Lost in the laughter were

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<v Speaker 1>three important details. Firstly, as my conversation with Jimmy Smith

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<v Speaker 1>and his imaginary house keeper suggests, people do do this,

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<v Speaker 1>but secondly, when they do it, they usually try to

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<v Speaker 1>disguise their own voice. Thirdly, rarely do they assume other

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<v Speaker 1>identities in order to provide the second component to what

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<v Speaker 1>we categorize as promiscuity, besides multiple partners boasting about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen ninety one, John Miller to sue carswell than of

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<v Speaker 1>people as of twenty and fifteen with Vanity Fair, for

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<v Speaker 1>whom I wrote this article. Quote, He's meaning Trump, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that has a lot of options, and frankly, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>called by everybody. He gets called by everybody in the book.

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of women, I mean they call, they just call.

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<v Speaker 1>He's living with Marla and he's got three other girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>Unquote Trump in his own voice, pretending to be somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else talking about Trump and the women he betted. That'll

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<v Speaker 1>be two more points. Next. The test asks if there

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<v Speaker 1>were conduct problems early in the subject's life. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, probably four or five, I twice hit

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine in the back of the head

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<v Speaker 1>with a metal toy. I remember shock, blood, no stitches,

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<v Speaker 1>and then a series of family meetings. We talked, the folks,

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<v Speaker 1>got some professional advice. They got me into organized sports

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<v Speaker 1>and exercise, and I quickly realized that just because I

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<v Speaker 1>was frustrated with somebody that was not a good reason

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<v Speaker 1>to hit them regardless. When I had my analyst friend

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<v Speaker 1>run the hair psychopathy checklist on me, I insisted she

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<v Speaker 1>give me a point on this because hitting a kid

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of the head with a toy fire

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<v Speaker 1>engine and later a magnet was at minimum an indicator

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<v Speaker 1>of the potential for early behavior problems. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>given me a point for this, how many points would

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<v Speaker 1>you give a child who attacked one of his own teachers.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote I actually gave a teacher a black eye, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in the Art of the Deal in nineteen eighty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>barely concealing his retroactively. He placed the time of the

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<v Speaker 1>assault as the second grade, likely making him seven years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote I punched my music teacher because I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>he knew anything about music, and I almost got expelled.

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<v Speaker 1>What kind of kid punches an adult in the face?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we hear about punching up, but think back

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<v Speaker 1>to being that age seven. The one universal I can

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<v Speaker 1>recall was that no seven year old ever dreamt of

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<v Speaker 1>trying to physically take on an adult, for the simple

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<v Speaker 1>and unavoidable reason that virtually any adult was several times

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<v Speaker 1>your own weight. If you pick the wrong one, they

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<v Speaker 1>might do more than just defend themselves. Even knocking an

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<v Speaker 1>adult down could be an exercise in self destruction if

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<v Speaker 1>he fell on you. The most reality challenged of all

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<v Speaker 1>of my young classmates the kid who ran headfirst into

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<v Speaker 1>the side of a moving school bus for reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>still remain unclear ten presidents later. He would never have

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<v Speaker 1>hit an adult. There is a second version of the

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<v Speaker 1>same story from a Trump biographer. He did indeed give

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<v Speaker 1>the teacher a black eye, but not with a punch.

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<v Speaker 1>He threw an eraser at him and hit him just right,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's way better. Regardless, the version Trump tells is

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<v Speaker 1>of the four foot tall edition of himself punching what

0:27:53.795 --> 0:27:57.155
<v Speaker 1>was at least a five foot tall adult in the eye,

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<v Speaker 1>hard enough to give the man a shiner. The only

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<v Speaker 1>argument against calling this early behavior problems is that the

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<v Speaker 1>first word implies that it stopped at some point two

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<v Speaker 1>more points. The tests you will have noticed bounces around

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<v Speaker 1>a bit from topic to topic. From early behavior, we

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<v Speaker 1>switch back to long term goals. Does the patient lack them?

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<v Speaker 1>So far? Mister Trump is theoretically aced our exam, but

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<v Speaker 1>reality now invades our idyllic scene. There could be a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand things psychologically wrong with the process by which Trump

0:28:34.435 --> 0:28:36.555
<v Speaker 1>ends up with a low score on this one. In

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<v Speaker 1>the big picture, you would never have thought Mussolini was

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<v Speaker 1>less crazy just because he left Italy for Switzerland in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen oh two in part to avoid military service, and

0:28:47.235 --> 0:28:50.795
<v Speaker 1>exactly twenty years later Mussolini became head of the Italian

0:28:50.835 --> 0:28:54.955
<v Speaker 1>state and often dressed up in his military uniform. But

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<v Speaker 1>tests are tests, there are rules here. And if you say,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy Trump so lacks realistic long term goals that

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks he can become president and he winds up

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<v Speaker 1>president twice, the long term goals turned out to be

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<v Speaker 1>not that unrealistic. Huh. As I look back at this

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<v Speaker 1>article from twenty twenty five, I desperately want to give

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<v Speaker 1>Trump a point on this one here, because once again

0:29:21.515 --> 0:29:24.875
<v Speaker 1>he boasts about having the very thing that psychology says

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<v Speaker 1>is a warning sign. Except you know, he was right

0:29:31.195 --> 0:29:36.035
<v Speaker 1>he became president. In the preface to Think Like a Billionaire,

0:29:36.315 --> 0:29:40.795
<v Speaker 1>Trump quotes the author Richard Konniff quote, almost all successful

0:29:40.875 --> 0:29:45.595
<v Speaker 1>alpha personalities display a single minded determination to impose their

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<v Speaker 1>vision on the world and irrational belief in unreasonable goals,

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<v Speaker 1>bordering sometimes on lunacy and it worked for him, So

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<v Speaker 1>on this one, Trump, you'll get nothing and you'll like it.

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<v Speaker 1>He could have twenty six points, he only has twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Next is the patient impulsive? In March twenty sixteen, writing

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<v Speaker 1>in Psychology Today, doctor Glenn Geher offered a different definition

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<v Speaker 1>of impulsiveness. It's not necessarily the same as rashness or

0:30:18.795 --> 0:30:23.915
<v Speaker 1>its positive twin quick thinking. True impulsiveness usually leaves fingerprints

0:30:23.955 --> 0:30:30.115
<v Speaker 1>of edgy, though not automatically pernicious behavior. Rather, it makes

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<v Speaker 1>one do these things in the wrong place, at the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong time, Mike, As doctor Geher was analyzing discussing the

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<v Speaker 1>size of your penis during a presidential debate, he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>include the other examples where the context turns that behavior

0:30:48.155 --> 0:30:52.435
<v Speaker 1>or that language from borderline to impulsive. You might appropriately

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<v Speaker 1>bring up that topic in bed, or at a bar,

0:30:56.235 --> 0:30:59.995
<v Speaker 1>or even at your tailor's. But it's like saying a

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<v Speaker 1>female presidential candidate had been schlonged in a primary, criticizing

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<v Speaker 1>the face of one of your female rivals during a speech,

0:31:08.835 --> 0:31:12.995
<v Speaker 1>like crudely referring to a network television figures menstruation while

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<v Speaker 1>on a rival television network. Back to two points out

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<v Speaker 1>of two. Here down the stretch we come. This is

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<v Speaker 1>another seemingly easy item that is actually difficult to nail

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<v Speaker 1>to the wall. What is irresponsibility? Not crediting John McCain's

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<v Speaker 1>heroism because he got captured when you yourself avoided the

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<v Speaker 1>military draft and service four maybe five times? Is irresponsibility

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<v Speaker 1>shown by taking a position on guns in nightclubs that's

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<v Speaker 1>so extreme that the president and legislative director of the

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<v Speaker 1>National Goddamned Rifle Association condemned. It is irresponsibility, at least

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<v Speaker 1>to the millions of lost souls who actually thought you'd

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<v Speaker 1>make a great American president rather than merely the last

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<v Speaker 1>American president. Is irresponsibility to even make a joke if

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<v Speaker 1>it was a joke that if you were offered five

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars to drop out quote, I guess we'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to think about it. Is the word more applicable or

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<v Speaker 1>less applicable if it comes out the next day that

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<v Speaker 1>during May your campaign spent more than twice as much

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<v Speaker 1>at business as you own than it did on payroll.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem with this heading is that so much of

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<v Speaker 1>what fits vaguely into irresponsibility, promiscuity, bankruptcy, punching out your

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<v Speaker 1>teacher fits like jigsaw pieces into the other categories in

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<v Speaker 1>this test. That doesn't mean the examples are ineligible, just imprecise,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does mean we have to score conservatively. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's give him one of the two points. We are

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<v Speaker 1>asked next to assess whether the patient accepts responsibility for

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<v Speaker 1>their own actions. Again, you cannot give more than two

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<v Speaker 1>points in any category. Both of my favorite examples here

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<v Speaker 1>involve interviews with The Washington Post, remember the one Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 1>On May twenty fourth, twenty sixteen, Trump was caught having

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<v Speaker 1>not yet donated the money from the purported veterans fundraiser

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<v Speaker 1>he staged as counter programming to the January Republican debate

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<v Speaker 1>that he bailed out of. The Post quoted his remarks

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<v Speaker 1>at the fundraiser, which was televised nationally. We just cracked

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<v Speaker 1>six million dollars, right, six million? Trump replied to them,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say six. The somewhat startled Post staffer said

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<v Speaker 1>it was on tape. Play it for me, Trump replied,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'd like to hear it, The Post reported. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>then manipulated the conversation to another topic, precluding the playing

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<v Speaker 1>of the video. Eleven days later, the tape of him

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<v Speaker 1>speaking in his own voice, but pretending to be his

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<v Speaker 1>spokesman John Miller, was revealed when during a phone interview,

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<v Speaker 1>a Post reporter brought up that proof, the John Miller tape.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump simply hung up the phone. Two more points next,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a question here about wedding vows, lots of marriages,

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<v Speaker 1>short ones. This depends on numerical definitions. Despite the falling

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<v Speaker 1>of religious barriers against divorce and the rise of the prenup,

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<v Speaker 1>the mean is still around just one point two to

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<v Speaker 1>one point three marriages per American and the number of

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<v Speaker 1>men who marry more than once is only about fifteen percent.

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<v Speaker 1>But Trump's marriage is still total only three and their

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<v Speaker 1>lengths fourteen six and now nearly twenty one years are

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<v Speaker 1>hardly in the annulled within thirty two hours range I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier. So no points here. Okay, once we again

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<v Speaker 1>we swing, We swing back to youth. Was the guy

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<v Speaker 1>or gal ever a juvenile delinquent? Now not every student

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<v Speaker 1>at Trump's high priced alma mater, New York Military Academy NIMA,

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<v Speaker 1>as we used to call it when I was in

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<v Speaker 1>high school and our teams played theirs, was automatically the

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<v Speaker 1>son of rich p parents who had been afforded the

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<v Speaker 1>choice not offered their less affluent fellowed troubled kids military

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<v Speaker 1>school or reform school. That would be a cliche, but

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<v Speaker 1>the one on the record, first hand assessment we have

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump as child cuts through cliches and reputations. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a pretty rough fellow when he was small,

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<v Speaker 1>said Donald Trump's father, explaining why he had to pull

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<v Speaker 1>him out of a traditional prep school in their native

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<v Speaker 1>Queens and ship him away to Nima. There are plenty

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<v Speaker 1>of classmates at that military boarding school who paint a

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<v Speaker 1>picture of a kid always throwing hands. On June twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen, the Washington Post profiled Trump as Nima inmate quote,

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<v Speaker 1>struck with a broomstick during a fight. He tried to

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<v Speaker 1>push a fellow cadet out the second floor window, only

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<v Speaker 1>to be thwarted when two other students intervened. The paper

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<v Speaker 1>also quoted one of his pre NEMA teachers, quote, he

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<v Speaker 1>would sit with his arms folded with this look on

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<v Speaker 1>his face. I use the word surly, almost daring you

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<v Speaker 1>to say one thing or another that wouldn't settle with him.

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<v Speaker 1>The Post quotes a younger neighbor named Dennis Burnham once

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<v Speaker 1>when she left Dennis in a playpen in a backyard

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<v Speaker 1>adjoining the Trump's property. Martha Burnham returned to find Donald

0:36:27.595 --> 0:36:31.595
<v Speaker 1>throwing rocks at her son. She saw Donald standing at

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<v Speaker 1>the fence, Dennis Burnham said, using the playpen for target practice.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the sort of stuff that would make a

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<v Speaker 1>true bully flinch. Plus, we have the boast from little

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<v Speaker 1>Donnie Trump at about seven, blackening the eye of an adult.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we have records of the police being called? No,

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<v Speaker 1>nor does the category heading ask for them. And that

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<v Speaker 1>applies to the next question too. Has there been revocation

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<v Speaker 1>of conditional release? The what now of conditional release? Now,

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<v Speaker 1>don't be worried if this confuses you, Your confusion only

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<v Speaker 1>means you are not a parole officer. This is legal

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<v Speaker 1>dingo for getting your parole revoked or your probation converted

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<v Speaker 1>into jail time because you were just caught doing that

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<v Speaker 1>illegal thing that had gotten you in trouble in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place. It is very specifically a criminal record issue.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tempting based on what's happened since he left office

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<v Speaker 1>the first time to give him a point here, But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do it because that's not what the

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<v Speaker 1>record says at the moment. We'll revisit this in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine, if there is a twenty twenty nine. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>is there true criminality and is it multifaceted? Not just

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<v Speaker 1>the same crime over and over again as in the

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<v Speaker 1>previous question, but lots of different kinds of crimes. The

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<v Speaker 1>psychological professional and I got into a big debate about

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<v Speaker 1>this one. She argued that criminal is not necessarily meantal

0:38:04.795 --> 0:38:09.275
<v Speaker 1>literally here that if you scammed charities, stole money from

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<v Speaker 1>grandmothers via a phony university, and directed about twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of yourr own campaigns, monthly spending towards companies you own,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reimbursement for travel by your kids, it all qualified.

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<v Speaker 1>My point was that the word criminal was used, not dishonest,

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<v Speaker 1>not unethical, not nefarious, capital ce criminal and the purp

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<v Speaker 1>walk or multimillion dollar fine in restitution, which that implies,

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<v Speaker 1>not that that couldn't have been the end result from

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<v Speaker 1>Trump you and then came, you know, is presidency and

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<v Speaker 1>stealing all those you know, espionage kind of document stuffs

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<v Speaker 1>and the Egene Carol case and the other Egen Carol

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<v Speaker 1>case and January sixth and all the convictions, and and

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<v Speaker 1>this just proves take heart, young man, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>old you are, you still can get crazier. Give him

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<v Speaker 1>the two points for a final score of thirty three.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you have it. Trump peters out towards the end. There,

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<v Speaker 1>but with thirty points being the marker at which professionals

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<v Speaker 1>could present a diagnosis of psychopathy your psychopath, the implications

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<v Speaker 1>are clear. Our Trumper's new clothes media rightly sees the

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<v Speaker 1>latest Trump event, whatever it is this time, as one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most unbelievable developments in American political history. But

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<v Speaker 1>the simple mechanics of following, reporting, and writing the proverbial

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<v Speaker 1>new high in low every single day means that they

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<v Speaker 1>could be missing one overriding truth about the mental health

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<v Speaker 1>of the most remarkable presidential candidate ever. In short, our

0:39:59.915 --> 0:40:04.595
<v Speaker 1>amateurs exercise with the very professional hair psychopathy checklist suggests

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<v Speaker 1>that if you were betting on it, you'd probably want

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<v Speaker 1>to bet that Donald Trump couldn't pass a sanity test.

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<v Speaker 1>Open book. Now, having slogged through this inventory of the

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<v Speaker 1>citizen Kane storage unit of bizarre presidential candidate conduct, go

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<v Speaker 1>look at social media because in the time it has

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<v Speaker 1>taken you to listen to this podcast. Even if, as

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<v Speaker 1>Congresswoman Dean says, the President is unwell, He's probably just

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<v Speaker 1>done something new to raise his score, hasn't he. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done all the damage I can do here. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>them ten dollars. Everything else was, as always my fault.

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<v Speaker 1>That's countdown for today. Day two hundred and forty six

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<v Speaker 1>of America held hostage just two hundred and seventeen days

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<v Speaker 1>until the scheduled end of his lame duck and lame

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<v Speaker 1>brain term unless he is removed sooner by MAGA and

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein, or the pavement on his hand, or a

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<v Speaker 1>stuck escalator, or the psychopathy test or tail and all,

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<v Speaker 1>or the President is unwell. The next schedule countdown is

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<v Speaker 1>Monday till then. I'm Keith Lraman. Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight,

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