1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 6 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, October twenty ninth, twenty nineteen, season fifteen, 8 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: episode number seventy one. Welcome to another edition Off the Break. 9 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 1: We are live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at 10 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: the start. Following a bye week, Cowboys are getting ready 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: for their next division opponent, got the Giants coming up 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: this Sunday in New York. I'm sorry, this Monday in 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: New York. And before we get into all of that, 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that tomorrow row in on Thursday. But 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: today we have to talk about signing Cowboys over the weekend. 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: Actually it was last Thursday, I think Thursday, even at 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: about the time we were all settling into a nice 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: by weekend that the Cowboys made the decision to trade 19 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: for one Michael Bennett. They trade a seventh round pick 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: that could become conditionally a sixth round pick. I want 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: to get all of your opinions on what you thought 22 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: when you first saw that the Cowboys made this move. 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Nick. Well, you don't want to 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: know what I first thought, but no, I really do 25 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: want to know what you first thought. Well, I was 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: disappointed that, you know, we didn't kind of get more 27 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: of a heads up on it. We felt like we 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to do that. But my first thought 29 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: about the actual move that pertains to everyone else, just 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: another guy that you know. Well, Actually, my first thoughts 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: why do the Patriots don't want them? I mean, why 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: does Bill Belichick, the best coach of all time not 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: want them? So that's my first thought. Really, but I 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: feel like he'll help, you know, he'll help if they 35 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: can rotate him the right way. He's probably does what 36 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford was doing his inside outside Flix guy, Dave, 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: what do you sorry? I was waiting for the illustrious host. 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: You needed me to say your name? Sorry? My first 39 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: thought was, oh, bleep, bleep, bleep, putting the beer down. 40 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: You put the beer down. I guess those plans are 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: on hold. Bleep. Oh, Nick's calling me. I guess I 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: gotta write this story. Bleep bleep. I thought we were 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: on a bye week. Welcome to the world of Dallas 44 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com pretty much. Yeah. Um, so we got 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: all that taken care of. And then once I got 46 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: over the initial shock of and I mean, you know, 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: we're not we play some things close to the chest sometimes, 48 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: like you know, we'll hear whispers that you know this 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: is in the works, don't say anything or you're fired. 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: You know this might be coming down later today. This 51 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: was not one of those though, Like I mean, we 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: were completely blindsided by this, right, I hadn't heard anything 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: about it from anybody. I left work on Thursday thinking 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: that nothing interesting was going down down. Uh So kudos 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: to them for playing that one really close. Um. Anyway, 56 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: once I got over the shock of it, I think 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: it's a great deal. I don't really worry about that 58 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: with you know, why doesn't Belichick want him? Because the 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: Patriots scheme is so unlike what Bennett has experienced most 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: of his success success doing. You know, everybody's already tied 61 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: the parallel with Chris Rashard. Jason Garrett talked about how 62 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: that was a big, a big selling point for why 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: they were comfortable doing it. He can play in he 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: can play tackle and nickel and rush situations. I think 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: it's a great, great trade. This is the type of 66 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: trade I love to see because you're not mortgaging your 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: future and you're getting a guy that can really help 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: you right now. Um and you know he's he's a 69 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: he's a an outspoken guy. He's got a reputation and 70 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like him because of that. 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: If it doesn't work out, it was a seventh round pick, 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: Like I whatever, you can part ways with him for 73 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: no real loss at all. I think it's a lot 74 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: of upside with very little downside. I love it. Something 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel right to me in a way. I'm like, 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: there must be something else. I don't know, because it 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: seems too good of a trade for it to happen. 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I can't pinpoint what it is, 79 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: but it just seems one of those situations where it's 80 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: too good to be true in a way. So I'm like, 81 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: there has to be something that's up or wrong here, 82 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: or maybe this guy is and all that that will 83 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: plug The Cowboys can plug him in into the field 84 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: in the line and him being effective for the Cowboys. 85 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, I think I think the most 86 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 1: important thing is that he was out of well really, 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: I don't want to say out of position, but the Patriots. 88 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: What the Patriots do is not necessarily what he does. 89 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: They are very they are not mostly in a four 90 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: three front. They're not mostly in a four down line front. Right, 91 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: and he's a defensive tackle slash defensive end, which means 92 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: that it makes it tough for him to get onto 93 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: the field. Now, depending on how good bad he is, 94 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: I probably I would venture to say he's not like 95 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: a world beater. I he's thirty three years old, so 96 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: there is a likelihood that he could be less of 97 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: a player than he was a year before that. What 98 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: I will say is twenty eighteen, this was a guy 99 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: who had nine sacks last year, and that same year, 100 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence led the team the Cowboys with ten and 101 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: a half sacks. Next closest guy had six in Gregory. 102 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: He's not here. So if you look at it from 103 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: that standpoint, just what he was a year ago, this 104 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: is a guy that was would have been the second 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: highest I would have had the second highest sack total 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: on this team. That to me, says, Okay, I'll take 107 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: a chance on the fact that he was just not 108 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: a guy that could fit into what the Patriots are 109 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: trying to do. And worst case scenario, he's not that good. 110 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: You didn't lose anything. You gave up a seventh round 111 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: pick and maybe a six round How many times that 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: he bounced around this year? Well he went, he was 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: with the Eagles. Eagles traded him to New England in 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: the spring. Before that, he was, you know, he was 115 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: one of the mainstays on that Seattle defense. I would 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: be more concerned about why the Eagles let him go 117 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: than why the Patriots let him go, because the Eagles 118 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: do what the Cowboys do, and they decided, hey, you know, 119 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: we're ready to move on from him. So that to 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: me would be more of a concern than the Patriots. 121 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: But again, like I said, a guy that had nine 122 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: and a a half sacks a year ago, take that chance. 123 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: Like they didn't give up much to take that chance. 124 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: It's not like a salary. He's that high, So go forward. Well, 125 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: he's got some you know, he's got some baggage, I guess, 126 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: and he's got some that might be an issue with 127 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Now, I don't know if this has all 128 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: been worked out. I was we were told that trade 129 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: came together quick. So you wonder if questions about his 130 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: stance on the anthem, his stance on Jason Witten, his 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: stand why he was suspended a game for the with 132 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: an altercation with the coach for the Patriots. So you know, 133 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: there are some issues here. And he's very, like Dave said, 134 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: very outspoken. He's an author of a book. You know 135 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: that's very outspoken. And you know it could it could 136 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: be an issue if you know the leaders in the 137 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: locker room and and you know don't handle it. But um, 138 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: it's not like he hasn't been an effective player where 139 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: he's been And do see exactly fit what the Cowboys 140 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: are going to be missing with Tyrone Crawford. If he 141 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: plays like he's played, it's an upgrade. And and he 142 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: does what Crawford does, but he's better at it in 143 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: my opinion, Yeah, he's better at it. That's in a 144 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: perfect world. Yeah, I call that an upgrade. And I 145 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: don't think I'm sorry, I don't think Michael Bennett has 146 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: had the as good a pass rushers around him as 147 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: he'll have here with Quinn and d law Um and 148 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: even Hyder. You know, I mean it's I mean nothing 149 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: against what what the Seahawks did back to him, because 150 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: obviously they want to Super Bowl with great defense. They 151 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: had about four really good rushers, right, Yeah, they didn't 152 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: have they didn't have a stud. They just had five 153 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: really good. They had Avril, they had Bennett, they had Um, 154 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: another dude whose name is escaping me. Clark didn't get 155 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: there till letter. But I mean they had at their peak, 156 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: they had about five that just kept coming, right, which 157 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: is kind of what you're recreating here, I think, which 158 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: you can't say that Bennett only cares about winning because 159 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: he forced his way off the best team in the league. 160 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: But I think he cares about winning and competing and 161 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: having a role. He I've never met the guy, but 162 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: he seems like Alpha in the truest terms, you know. Yeah, Yeah, 163 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: craziest player we've ever had. I think you think A 164 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: b was the craziest player we've ever had. Don't call 165 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Brown like that, meant Antonio brian And was crazy. Well, 166 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: what does the guy just stands on the sideline and 167 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: all of a sudden just does a backflip just because 168 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just standing there. I'm kind of, you know, 169 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: up there, though Marty b is up there. I never 170 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: dealt with Marty B. But I'm kind of surprised to 171 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: hear that when you you know, I've heard some stories 172 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: about Ratliffe. I've heard some stories about Mary and Barber. 173 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: What's crazier him? Crazy's not the right word. No, it's 174 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: not the right word. That's not the right interesting guys, interesting, yes, 175 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: and he accentric yeah, And you know when he was gone, 176 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: he said what he said about Jason Witten. And you know, 177 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: I think I think Bennett was in that interview with 178 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: Michael Bennett. It was an ESPN the magazine profile. There 179 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: was this whole thing about Jason Wayne Well. I mean 180 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: Mark Martellis said that he respected Jason Witten as a player, 181 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: but just didn't like him. And and I bet you 182 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: it was mutual, just because you know that they have 183 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: a different approach to the game. And I think you 184 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: could say martellis Bennett. Um. I don't know if he 185 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: loved football. I think he loved what football gave him, 186 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: because he always had interest in doing other things. I 187 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: don't know if he was as interested about football, was 188 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: just one thing. Yeah, that's the point. He may have 189 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 1: loved it, but it was just one thing. I think 190 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: that was also the point about about martellis that that 191 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: made people look at him a little different, is because 192 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: he did have a lot of different interests and they 193 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: weren't the typical interests that you see from a six 194 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: foot five black guy. Like the things that he did. 195 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: He was very interested in a lot of cerebral things, 196 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: and I think people are like that it seems weird, 197 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: like he's writing kids books and he loves technology, like 198 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: there are all these things that that said, maybe this 199 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: is a nerd, but he's in a football player's body. 200 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: You remember when, so it just it seemed weird to 201 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: remember when he got I forgot exactly what it was, 202 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: but he got us. He got fined by the Cowboys, 203 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: and he did an apology, you know, and he wrapped 204 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: his own apology. Yeah yeah, And I mean he's just 205 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: he was just wrapped it out. It was kind of 206 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: pretty good. I actually had a lot of respect from 207 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: why to be from the standpoint of us, I had 208 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: more respect for him after he finished playing, because I 209 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: did see the fullness of the person that he was 210 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: and all the different things he was interesting and I 211 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 1: think he's good at a lot of those things as well. 212 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: I remember when I went to the Pro Bowl. I 213 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: think it was fourteen Cowboys were coaching it and I was, 214 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: you know, there to cover the Cowboys, and he had 215 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl with the Giants, I believe, maybe 216 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: with the Bears. I can't remember. Maybe I think it 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: was the Bears, and he was talking to the Giants 218 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: people like, hey, how are you doing. Then he sees 219 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: me and he was like, damn, I've been on a 220 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: lot of teams man, you know, because he's like, I 221 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: know you too. So he had a good career. And 222 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I know we're getting away from things a little bit 223 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: because there are different people. Yeah, yeah, I mean I 224 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: don't really I don't care that much about Martellis Bennett's 225 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: role in those whole thing. It's they're different guys. And 226 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: but again, I mean that is that is something to watch. 227 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: Michael Bennett is Again he's an outspoken guy. You can 228 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: talk about the anthem stuff. I think not maybe you know, 229 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's the author of any children's books, 230 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: but I think he's another guy that is, you know, 231 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: he's a little bit more three d than you know, 232 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: he cares about stuff because the author of a little 233 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: more controversial book and that I mean, but again exact title, 234 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's what makes white people uncomfortable or something. 235 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know that I heard you mentioned it before. 236 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: The author of the book. I mean, he has been 237 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: at the forefront of this national anthem and and you know, okay, 238 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: his brutality debate and all that type of stuff. Like 239 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: about a month ago, we were talking about the dynamic 240 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: with this group of guys in the locker room, how 241 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: everything's so well, all these guys get along. The only 242 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: one was talk on now his gun and then this 243 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 1: guy coming in with this baggage with him? Does that 244 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: all right? Hold on, I'm gonna pause you right there. 245 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna take our break. When we come back, I 246 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: want to talk about that. I want to talk about 247 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: how he affects this locker room and can this locker 248 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: room withstand a guy that's pretty outspoken, and we'll see 249 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: how that how that plays out, we' talk about them, 250 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: we'll come back. This is DLAs Cowboys dot Com Radio. 251 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: Well a player can look good on paper, it's one 252 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: he's out on the field that you really find out 253 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: what he's made of. That's why the Cowboys rely on 254 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: more than just stats and scouting reports when building their team. 255 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: When picking a tractor, it's why you should rely on 256 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: more than just specs and features. 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Back to the Break, 287 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back into the second second of the Break Live 288 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: and s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. We're talking 289 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: about the addition of Michael Bennett to this team. He 290 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: was out of practice this morning. It's a pretty messy 291 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: day out there, but they're practicing outside. Michael Bennett was 292 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: a part of that. Before the break, we started talking 293 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: a little bit about how Michael Bennett will fit into 294 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: this locker room, and and Amber you laid out the question. 295 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: I'll throw it out to the group. How do you 296 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: think he works in this locker room that seems to 297 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: be pretty cohesive on the same page, a lot of 298 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: seemingly similar type I would say similar type or at 299 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: least meshing type personalities, not really liar type guys that 300 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: kind of are very different in my opinion, What do 301 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: you guys think? I think it's it's the same conversation 302 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: we've had on this show a dozen times at this point, 303 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: is like at the end of the day, line one 304 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: is always are you good at football? And if Michael 305 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: Bennett can accomplish what they brought him in here to accomplish, 306 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: which has helped them get sacked, I think the rest 307 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: of it will take care of itself. To be honest, 308 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: and like, he's not the only guy in that locker 309 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: room without spoken opinions or different interests besides football. He 310 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: probably voices them a little bit more often than what 311 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: we're used to seeing here with the Cowboys. I'm interested 312 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: to see how that manifests itself. But again, if he 313 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: if he is contributing and is part of a winning effort, 314 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: I think the rest of it's going to take care 315 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: of himselves. I mean, we haven't talked about it a 316 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: whole lot, but Robert Quinn had his own role in 317 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: the national anthem protests as well, and that has hardly 318 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: been mentioned since he got here, and it hasn't really 319 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: shown itself on the field to this point either. So again, 320 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: if if he's good at football and it's taking care 321 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: of that aspect of it, I think the rest of 322 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: it will sort itself out. And that's kind of what 323 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: I said at the top of the show too, is 324 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: if it is this gigantic problem and he's and he 325 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: just butts heads, then you didn't invest that much in 326 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: this anyway, and it's not something that's hard to get 327 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: away from, you know, if you really think about it. 328 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Though I said this before, and maybe I'll change, I'm 329 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: going to change what I just said a few minutes ago, 330 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: there really are a lot of different kinds of personalities 331 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: on this team. Because you think about a guy like 332 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, who is very seemingly sometimes kind of to 333 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: himself a very cerebral guy, loves to read. He's that 334 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: kind of guy, right, And then you got a guy 335 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: like Tank that's just like he'll say whatever comes to 336 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: his mind and whatever way it comes to his mind, 337 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: and he'll do it on camera. He doesn't mind getting 338 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: out there and saying it the way he wants to 339 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: say it. And then you got a guy like Robert 340 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: Quinn who gets off the plane in his bathrobe and 341 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, is heading to this car. Like there are 342 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: a lot of different types of personalities, very very different 343 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: types of personalities on this team. And maybe again, like 344 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: Dave says, maybe it's all about if you can get 345 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: them all to buy into this common theme of we 346 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: want to win, then it really doesn't matter, right. I 347 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: agree with that. And as he said, it's all about, 348 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: you know, how well you play football. You put up 349 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: with a lot of stuff if guys are you know, 350 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: playing football and not being a distraction as well, Because 351 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: when we saw guys like Terrell Owens, I mean, you know, 352 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: he was good at football, but he was it was 353 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 1: too much of a distraction, not that good, I guess, 354 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: and I like I said, I mean he was unhappy 355 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: in the on the best roster in the league, or 356 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: one of them at least. But again, I think the 357 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: old best defense the opportunity to actually play a role 358 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: in winning games is I assume what he's after. And unfortunately, 359 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, because of this weird week, it's Tuesday afternoon 360 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: and we haven't had a chance to talk to him yet. 361 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully that happens later today. But I don't know. I 362 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: tend to think and maybe these will be famous last words, 363 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: but I think it's much ado about nothing. I don't 364 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: remember anything about him being this colossal headache while he 365 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: was in Philadelphia, not during the season last year at 366 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: least then he which Seattle was a whole different animal, 367 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: that whole team. It's amazing that they juggled the amount 368 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: of personalities that they had in Seattle for as long 369 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: as they did, anyway, and it just tore itself apart 370 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: at some point. It was almost like you could just 371 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: see it. At some point, it just got to the 372 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: point where it just seemed like everything was just tearing 373 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: apart because maybe because all those personalities, at some point 374 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: it just wasn't going to work anymore. But at the 375 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: end of the day, I mean, he wants to play 376 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: a role in winning football games for a good team, 377 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: and if he's got that opportunity, then I think the 378 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: rest of it will take care of itself. Has he 379 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: ever had a shoulder injury? Are you referencing his non 380 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: existent shoulder pads? My god, I mean, like it's just 381 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: like punters have bigger shoulder pads than that. Yeah. I 382 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: wonder if it's ever been an issue. He's always done it, 383 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's got like the minimum hasn't seemed 384 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: like it's gotten in the way of him getting sixty 385 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: five and a half. It doesn't happen here because these 386 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: injuries with the Cowboys seem to be a trend. So 387 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: it's definitely, yeah, it's just the Cowboys. Yeah, in my eyes, 388 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: it's just a but I did have another bastion. But 389 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: I did have another question though on this. Do you 390 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: guys think that this move was about Now we already 391 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about Tyrone Crawford, do you think 392 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: it's also somewhat of an indictment on a guy like 393 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, who they drafted in the second round, and 394 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: you would think that maybe they would be looking for 395 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: him to get an increased role when Crawford goes down, 396 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: especially at the defensive tackle position. Do you think that 397 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: this move was more about that or more about the 398 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: fact that, look, we're really replacing what Tyron Crawford did, 399 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: and Tristan Hill is still going to be just Triston Hill, 400 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: which means he's going to be an active So both. 401 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that the fact that when when 402 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: Crawford went down, you were hoping that Tristan Hill would 403 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: be ready to, you know, kind of step in, and 404 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: now he's probably going to be inactive again. So yeah, 405 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: it's an indictment on the fact that he's not ready 406 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: to contribute, not that he was ever going to be 407 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: as good as Michael Bennett, I don't think, but I 408 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: mean now, not now, but just saying I mean, yeah, 409 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: you knew that, but I think that if he was 410 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: a really good player, you know, that was playing at 411 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: a starting level, no, you wouldn't feel the need to 412 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 1: do that. But would you expect more or do you 413 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: expect more from a second round pick? Absolutely? Yes, now, 414 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: I mean you know, yeah, I feel like people give 415 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: us a hard time for like defending the pick simply 416 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: because I mean, it's way too soon to call him 417 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: a bust. I mean, that's a multiple year conversation, but 418 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: fifty eighth overall pick. His role on this team is very, 419 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: very disappointing. There's no way around it. I don't necessarily 420 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: think those things are connected. And I applaud the Cowboys 421 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: because again, this is this is the exact type of 422 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: trade that I love to see, where you're like, how 423 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: can we aggressively make this team better without mortgaging something 424 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: like a first round pick like the Coop. You know, 425 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: it's they're not in two years. Nobody's gonna be like, 426 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: oh my god, they don't have that seventh round pick. 427 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? You know, like nobody's approaching 428 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: it that way. So I applaud them for finding a 429 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: smart way to be aggressive. I think they might have 430 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: done it if Tristan Hill was good. But at the 431 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: same time, you know, it reminds me of kind of 432 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard a little bit. When Zeke holds out, everybody's like, well, 433 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: let's you know, we feel good about this Tony guy, 434 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: Like let's see, let's see how much we're gonna miss 435 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: Zeke during the preseason, And sure some of that was posturing, 436 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: but like, you're not hearing any of that about Tristan Hill, 437 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: like there's there's no positive hype about his performance to 438 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: this point in the season on the field or even 439 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, not even like behind the scenes, like man, 440 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: he's he's really given the scout team fits though, or 441 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: like he's given the starters fits on the scout team. 442 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: Like you're not hearing any of that type of stuff, 443 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: And that's disappointing for a guy that was drafted in 444 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: the top sixty picks. And I'll say this though, I've 445 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: I've heard from coaches just off camera and off the 446 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: record type conversations where they're talking very highly of Tristan 447 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: Hill in his future. And I understand how fans can 448 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: be upset of you know, they keep asking, oh, what's 449 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: up with this draft pick and he's not being productive 450 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: on the field, And yeah, that's kind of upsetting in 451 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: a way. But at the same time, you got to 452 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: look at the future and how what he can develop into. 453 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: This guy, I've seen a lot of potential from him 454 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: even just watching him I practice training camp, and what 455 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: he's done just hit his drive. He gets up and 456 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: does it again and gets angry and keeps pushing. He's 457 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: not the type of guy that's just kind of walking 458 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: around with his head down, kicking his foot around. You know, 459 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: he has Justin Hill. Yes, this is surprising to me 460 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: because I've never heard anyone say that. I haven't seen that. 461 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: I to the point where I was not to cut 462 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: you off, but I was wondering, are we still talking 463 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: about Tristan Tristin Hill. Yes, I was well when I 464 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: when I heard people talking highly of him, not necessarily 465 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: for this year though, for the future and what he 466 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: can turn into and what they see him becoming, not 467 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 1: as of right now for this season. We actually talked 468 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: about We did a draft show during the bye week 469 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: and we talked about that with Tom Siskowski, which and 470 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't view it. How do I view it? It's 471 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: I guess it is a little bit of an indictment. 472 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: I don't blame them, I guess is my point. But 473 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: when you hear the cliche in the spring about best 474 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: player available, remember this, because it's very obvious to me 475 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: that they reached for a position that they thought they 476 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: needed down the line. They thought, you know, they need 477 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: a versatile tackle who they think can rush the passer. 478 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: They love his traits, they do feel very good about 479 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: what he can become. But it's pretty obvious to me 480 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: that they probably drafted him thinking that he might not 481 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: have a huge role on this team, and that's a 482 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: pick for the future, and they probably knew they couldn't 483 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: get him at and I think they picked at ninety 484 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 1: or ninety one, like he won't be there then and 485 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: we need him, so we're drafted him early. And so 486 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't blame them for that because in the long run, 487 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: I do think it's a smart call. But they reached 488 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: for him. They just did an NFL Sorry, NFL teams 489 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: do that in the draft all the time. They don't 490 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: want you to think that they do, but they do. 491 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: And by the way, this is a team that traditionally 492 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: the second round pick is a pick they are willing 493 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: to take chances with. They say, hey, we'll draft a 494 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: guy that's injured and know that we may not get 495 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 1: much out of him the first year. We hope by 496 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: the second, the third, the fourth year, we do. And 497 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: they've had mixed success with it. There have been some 498 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: guys that have panned out, there have been some guys 499 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: that have not. But the point is they love to 500 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: take chances in the second round. I think it gets 501 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: even hot more highlighted when they don't have a first 502 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: round pick, because then your top pick is a guy 503 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: that is a guy that's either boom or bust. Totally, 504 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: that's it's unfair to Tristan that he, you know, I mean, 505 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: he's being shouldered with first round expectations because he was 506 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: the first guy picked. If they had a first rounder 507 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: playing great and starting every game and Tristan Hill wasn't 508 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: doing much, I don't think I don't think that many 509 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: people were seeing second rounders get hidden because they had 510 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 1: two first round picks. Nobody really remembers Kevin Burnett, you know, 511 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: in the second round of I know you do. He 512 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: probably wasn't or the same mother. But I'm just saying, 513 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: because you have two first round picks, it's like no 514 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: one's thinking about that. We haven't really talked about him 515 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: because he's been hurt. But Connor McGovern I just said 516 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: they reached for Hill. Connor McGovern was a true best 517 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: player available pick, Like it was just so obvious that 518 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,719 Speaker 1: they should draft him that they did it. If he 519 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: was healthy and inactive, nobody would care because they'd be like, well, yeah, 520 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: like what's he supposed to do? Like there's pro bowlers 521 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: and experienced starters at every position on the line, and 522 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: so it's just the circumstances that you're drafted into. But 523 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: having said that, you should not be a healthy inactive 524 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: if you're a top sixty pick. It's just not a 525 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: good look. All right, we're gonna take our final break. 526 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: When we come back, I want to talk about the 527 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 1: trade deadline. It's happening today at four pm Eastern time. 528 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys, if you think the 529 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: Cowboys make a move, and if they do, what position 530 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: would it be. Well, when we come right back, this 531 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Your new apartment's big, 532 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: such a great deal, it's okay, just okay. What's not 533 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: to do? Right about the subway? Well, I bet you 534 00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: don't even notice it after that's my neighbor. 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Back 567 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: to the break Welcome back. It is the final segment 568 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: of the Break Black Nest WBC Mortgage Studios at the 569 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: Star today. Today is the final day before the trade deadline. 570 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: Today at four pm, we're gonna ask some questions about that. 571 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: But before we do, Nick got a message for us. Well, 572 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: I was gonna just talk about the Salute Service Plaza Party. 573 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of a mouthful to say. It's on the 574 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: November ninth, to those Championship Plaza the Salute to Service 575 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: Plaza Party and enjoy live entertainment, military ceremonies, dallascom was, 576 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: alumni autographs and more. After the event festivities, The Star 577 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: will be hosting the top two Madden players as they 578 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: face off in the EA Sports Madden NFL twenty Club 579 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: Championship presented by Spire. Dave you play men, I dabble. 580 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: I was actually at the risk of sounding like an 581 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: old man, like it's so complex now, like there's all 582 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: these skills and the player cards and you got to 583 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: upgrade your players, and I just want to press the buttons. 584 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: One time, Sean Alexander was on the cover kidding really yeah, 585 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: I remember, do you playing back in the day? No, 586 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: not that I like the college game. Oh that's what 587 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: you can play college football on this year's copy. I 588 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: got a copy of it. Like they let you. We're 589 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: getting into the weeds here, but you can play the 590 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: college football playoff as one of like eight teams and 591 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: where you play no nice and concise. She's like back 592 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys times, back to the Cowboy good. All right, yeah, 593 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: all right. Let's the question I ask you guys before 594 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: the break was about the trade deadline. Today. Jerry Jones 595 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: was asked about that, ask whether they'd still be out 596 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: in that market. He says, we're always looking, we're giving 597 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: a thought to that end. Anything as possible. That all 598 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: being said, and knowing how everything transpired so quickly last 599 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: Thursday to none of us that none of us expected. 600 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: If the Cowboys were to make a move today, what 601 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: position do you think it better be? Safety? I didn't 602 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 1: even let me get that out safety safety? Is there 603 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: any other position? Because I made a case before we 604 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: went on the air that I thought, if you can 605 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: get yourself a blocking tight end, I'd be willing to 606 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: get up a seventh round, sixth round pick something like 607 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: that to get myself up. Speaking of blocking tight being up, 608 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: are you ready to give up on Dalton Schultz as 609 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: a player? Okay? Then yeah, I mean if you give me, 610 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: if you told me I could have a really good 611 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: blocking tight end that I could pair with Blake jarw 612 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: I went in and Jason Witten. I'm willing to say, Okay, 613 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm willing to call that a move forward because that's 614 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: pretty significant and fourth round pick in the middle of 615 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: a second year. I will keep saying the same thing 616 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: that I've been saying, and I'm sorry if it goes 617 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: against the constantly try to improve your roster, but like, 618 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm just not touching that until Jason Witten retires like again, 619 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't know off the top of 620 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: my head what a snap count is, but he's going 621 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: to command a certain snap count. It's gonna be high. 622 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: You want to develop Blake Jarwin, I get that. I 623 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: get what you're saying, Like, yeah, that would be nice 624 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: to have, but I'll just worry about it when Jason 625 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: Witten finally calls it occurred. Have you seen any developing 626 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: from Dalton Schultz. I know he hasn't gotten many chances, 627 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: but still but again, like, okay, so you're gonna trade 628 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: away an asset for a guy who's gonna get similarly 629 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: few chances. Well, but if he's blocking on the goal 630 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: line down there, I mean, he could be better than 631 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: what you have here. Let's just throw Jumbo Joe out 632 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: there instead. Hey, I'm all in on that. And to 633 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: me and Nick talked about that last week too, I'd 634 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: be all in on that. But it was after that 635 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: that last I think it was the last game. We 636 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: what no what When I get rid of him? Situation 637 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: no no, no, nor want to get him out touchdown 638 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: dance would be It would be like break the internet, right, 639 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: I just like I said, like I said, it doesn't jive. Basically, 640 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here saying I know it's not good enough, 641 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: and I'm still not going to do anything about it. 642 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: It's just whatever. Like the minute, the minute Jason witt 643 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: And decided to come out of retirement, I like that 644 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: position just went into a holding pattern and just says 645 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: what it is. I just think right now, when you 646 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: look around the NFC, I think the Cowboys are in 647 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: a really interesting spot because if they really want, in 648 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: my opinion, if they really want an opportunity to be 649 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: able to get to the super Bowl, they may have 650 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: to go and push all the chips in. And what 651 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean by that is they gotta go and get 652 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: that one player that can get them over the hump. 653 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's what we're talking about, that we're 654 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: not talking about a block you're right, and you're right 655 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: about talking about a guy who happens to live or 656 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: come from a town right down the street here in DF. 657 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: You know we're talking I know exactly what we're talking about. 658 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: But that's the kind of to me when you look 659 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: at these teams like we were talking at yesterday, he's 660 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: actually he's from Beaumont, which you have nowhere near um No. 661 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at at this team and you 662 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: look at teams like the Packers, you look at teams 663 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: like the Saints, you look at the forty nine ers. 664 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: There are some teams up there right now that maybe 665 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is the guy that gets you over the hump. 666 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he is maybe that gives you the kind of 667 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: pass rush that you feel Michael Thomas, Michael Bnnet, But 668 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: maybe Michael Bennet is that kind of guy that can 669 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: get you over the hump. I look back at those 670 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: New York Giants teams that won the Super Bowl, and 671 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: in both instance it was it because their defensive front 672 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: was so stout they were able to get a pass 673 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: rush and that's how they were able to beat the 674 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Ads twice. Maybe he's that kind of guy and can 675 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: still give you that kind of pass rush. But if 676 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: he's not, then I think you have to look at 677 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: this and say, if you really want to compete this 678 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: year for a championship, you might have to go all in. 679 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: And that might mean and this is the question for you, guys, 680 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: are you willing to give up another first round pick 681 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: to go and get an over the top type place. Well, 682 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: if I know, you know, and they did a good 683 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: job last year, or the foresight to go, Okay, there's 684 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: not a lot of receivers or whatever, so in next 685 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: year's draft and go ahead and get Amari Cooper if 686 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: they can kind of do something similar and go all right, 687 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be somewhere between sixteen and twenty five or 688 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: who knows. But is there going to be a game 689 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: changing safety there? Because you need a safety, you need 690 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: a draft to safety, and Jeff Heath is unrestricted, and 691 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: you know they got to move on and get better 692 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: at safety anyway. So maybe that's it would be hard 693 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: to trade your first round pick two years in a 694 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: row and be successful at it. But but you're getting 695 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: a wide receiver who is twenty four years old, who 696 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: will be here for eight to ten years, and and 697 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: if you did, you maybe would get a safety in 698 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: the same boat. I will address the elephant in the 699 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: room or the tiger in the room, as happens to 700 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 1: be the case. I've already said I would do that deal. 701 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: His name is Jamal Adams. He plays for the Jets. 702 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: The thing is it would be completely different from Amari 703 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: because you wouldn't have to turn around and pay him. 704 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: He's got eight don't think, well, you're right, I mean, 705 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: you could get in a situation where he does theoretically, 706 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: like I want to hold out him moment, theoretically after 707 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: this year, you can negotiate with him. I do not 708 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: think he is that astonishingly good that he would try 709 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: to do that. So I think you would get eight 710 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: years of this eight sorry, eight games of this year, 711 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: one more very cheap rookie year, and then then he's 712 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: still a fifth year option. Yes he does. He's a 713 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: top ten pick, and so you could get a safety 714 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: in the sixteen to twenty five range. Derwin James was 715 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: drafted in that range, but why not just go get 716 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: a guy who's drafted top five in his draft class 717 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: who would love to be here. The problem is, and 718 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to get people excited, because 719 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: that's I think the price at the end of the day. 720 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: I just I think it would cost you more than 721 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: a first round pick, because it's not just that he's 722 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 1: a good player, it's that he's got all those years remaining. 723 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: You're talking about a young piece, and that's why you know, 724 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: the Jets aren't trying to ship off this disgruntled veteran 725 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: who doesn't have a future there. They want him to 726 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: be a core piece of what they're trying to so 727 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,240 Speaker 1: they have to get the one to replace him, plus 728 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,439 Speaker 1: something else that makes it valuable because he is better 729 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: than a first round pick right now, because you know 730 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: what you're getting and already he's a commodity that already 731 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 1: exists right The guys on one oh five through the 732 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: Fan asked me about this, and I was like, I 733 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: would bet you any amount of money. The Cowboys have 734 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: inquired about this, like they're not dumb, it's just are 735 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: they willing to pay the price. And in a world 736 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: where Jalen Ramsey fetches two firsts and a fourth, I 737 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: don't know if Jamal Adams is worth that, but he's 738 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: certainly worth a lot. And I just don't know if 739 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: they're willing to pull the trigger off and to lose 740 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: a first round pick. I think it was clear after 741 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: you cut Deaz and didn't have anybody that could help. 742 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: I mean, you had to get a receiver next year. 743 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: You knew that. Um, do they feel like they have 744 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: to get a safety? Know that they don't think like that. 745 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: Other positions, like let's say Witten doesn't come back, you 746 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: might need to get a tied end in that range. 747 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: You might need to get a cornerback if Byron Jones 748 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: doesn't come come back, and you might need to get 749 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: that anyways, knowing that Cheeto and Jordan or will be 750 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: in the last year of their deals, so there's other 751 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: positions that you could say, we will probably need to 752 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: do that. And I said that when you know the 753 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: Giants trades of end, I mean Robert Quins a free agent. 754 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: Robert Quins a free agent for sure. Um. I said 755 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: that about Leonard Williams yesterday, that you know the Giants 756 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: traded for him for a third and a fifth, and 757 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: that's all well and good. That's a cheap price. But 758 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,919 Speaker 1: the problem is, much like Cooper last year, you got 759 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: to turn right back around and pay him. He doesn't 760 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: even have an option year. He's done after this, so 761 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: you know, hope, for the Giant's sake, I hope they're 762 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: resigning him. I'm sure they have the cap space to 763 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: do it. But the Cowboys, you look at it, You're like, Okay, 764 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: we can afford to pay all these guys, but at 765 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: some point we got to have draft capital to place 766 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: the guys we can afford. You're Damian Wilson's You're maybe 767 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: you're Byron Jones, is you're I mean, I'm going back 768 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: a couple of years. But Anthony Hitchins, like, you need 769 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: draft picks to replace the guys that you can't afford 770 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: to pet core players that are just kind of like 771 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: you got, you got your big money guys. We all 772 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: know who they are. But then you need draft picks 773 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: to replenish the rest of your roster and do it cheaply. 774 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 1: So how many trades can you afford to make? That's 775 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: if the Jets would give up Jamal Adams one, just 776 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: a one for the player, bring it on all day. 777 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: But if I'm all of a sudden packaging three picks 778 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: across two different drafts and two of them are you 779 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 1: know I can't give up two ones? No, I could 780 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 1: do a one in a three. That's It's it's easy 781 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: to say, like, oh, get them, Jerry, what are you doing? 782 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: But like what's the price? And you know at some 783 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: point you have to draw a line. I would do 784 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: a one in a two only if the two is 785 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: the next year. I would do that one second. That's 786 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: hard because you got all these guys whose contracts are 787 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: about to be over, and next year this team might 788 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: look very different than what it does now? Do you 789 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: not want to just finally just finish going all in 790 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: this year and make it happen. See that's kind of 791 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: my point, is I kind of go the route of 792 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: I think they've got a lot of great parts right now, 793 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know what it's going to look like 794 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: next year when you have some of these unknowns. Right So, 795 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: if I'm Jerry and I'm sitting there and I'm trying 796 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: to think of where I am as a team and 797 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: what it would cost me to do more, I think 798 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm at a point right now where I'm like, man, 799 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: if I got that one guy that I think pushes 800 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: me over, I'm gonna push it all in and I'm 801 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: gonna say, let's see what happens. Because I do believe. 802 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: I do believe the Eagles basically bought themselves a championship 803 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: because they went all in that year. And I think that, 804 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think the Cowboys have that kind of 805 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: team where they have enough talent all the different positions 806 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: that if you're willing to go all in, I think 807 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: you got a pretty good shot. I would argue that, See, 808 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: the Eagles gave up a lot to put themselves in 809 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: position to get wins, and that was the catalyst for everything. 810 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: But like, that's what I always said, is like none 811 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: of those moves were just backbreakingly heavy investments like Jern 812 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: again was not this crazy investment. A Jay was not 813 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: this crazy. You're not talking about giving up multiple first 814 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: and second round picks, which again I got. I mean, 815 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: and we don't know, but see what I got to 816 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: know what the price is? Yah, see what they do 817 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 1: because they know right now that they just played the game. 818 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: They're not better than the Cowboys. They know that. I mean, 819 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: are you what the Eagles? So watch what the Eagles see? 820 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: I heard how cornerback that both that that that the 821 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: Eagles might be looking at who's the cornerback? Yeah, I 822 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: think that at him? They're looking at Mike Yeah, But 823 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: I mean that does mean these teams are ready that happen. 824 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: I'm bummed at how poorly this segment is going to 825 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: age because in two hours and forty five minutes, it's 826 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: all it'll all be over. Which but but I love 827 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: that about the NFL right now. I love the trade 828 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: deadline is now matters because if many many years it 829 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 1: did not, I will say this and you read Jerry's 830 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: quote from the fan. I don't know if they're going 831 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: to do anything, but there's way more smoke than normal 832 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: that they're interested in adding somebody like Jerry's on Jerry 833 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: said today, he's like, we've got stuff in the mill. 834 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: It was like, we're considering things. I was like, are 835 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,480 Speaker 1: you okay? And he said over the weekend, you know, 836 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: they donated a million dollars to D I s D, 837 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: which was really cool. He said at that event. Safety 838 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: is something that we're interested in, and so I'm like, 839 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: Jerry's trying to give us a roadmap. I don't know 840 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: if we're going to get there, but it's way more 841 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: smoke than we're used to hearing around this time of year. 842 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't know a lot of other safeties 843 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: around the league that I would think are worthy of 844 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: coming in and immediately jumping in and being better, like 845 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: much better. The guy in the Guy in Miami comes 846 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: to mind. Rashad Jones, but he's plan last night. I 847 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 1: actually didn't watch the game, but I heard he made 848 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 1: a good play, pretty good. I would have done that too. 849 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: I know m Jones's salary is pretty big, though, and 850 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: that's so Yeah, I mean, there aren't a lot of 851 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of great safeties on bad teams. Yeah, 852 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: other than the ones mainly the one that we've talked about, 853 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: So I don't know. We'll see, we shall see. Today 854 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: is the deadline at four I guess four pm Eastern time, 855 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: so three pm Central time. We'll see if the Cowboys 856 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: make any moves, and we'll be back tomorrow talk about it, 857 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: see what happens. And then also we're gonna get into 858 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys versus Giants, and I guess we're gonna have 859 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: the Giants offensive breakdown tomorrow from Dave Till then for 860 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: Nick even Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This 861 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: has been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 862 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 863 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.